Re: Rental

2020-05-21 Thread Pierre Smits
Hello James,

While in OFBiz there is functionality regarding ordering and delivery (and
invoicing) regarding 'rental services' the functionality regarding monthly
invoicing is under developed. This issue appeared only once before (back in
2011).

In order to enable the community to not forget about this feature (and
follow it up with growing insights etc.), I suggest you raise a ticket in
our Jira. This way the project can keep everything related in one
environment and track progress.

Met vriendelijke groet,

Pierre Smits
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On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 7:47 AM Pritam Kute 
wrote:

> Hello James,
>
> AFAIK, there is no direct support available in OFBiz which will help you
> set up the exact requirement you mentioned.
>
> You can refer to the Rental Store in OFBiz[1]. This is an example of a
> hotel reservation system that is not exactly as per your requirement but it
> can help you get basic idea.
>
> [1]
>
> https://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/catalog/control/EditProductStore?productStoreId=RentalStore
>
> HTH!
>
> Regards,
> --
> Pritam Kute
>
>
> On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 9:19 PM  wrote:
>
> > Paul - How does the process work?  How does the monthly invoicing work?
> > How do you track the ins and outs of the assetwhat if there are
> > multiple of the same asset that is rented?
> >
> >  Original Message 
> > Subject: Re: Rental
> > From: Paul Mandeltort 
> > Date: Tue, May 19, 2020 2:47 pm
> > To: user@ofbiz.apache.org
> >
> > Haven’t used it but this might be a place to look, looks like you can
> > configure products/rentals against an asset.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> https://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/catalog/control/EditProduct?productId=RoomStd
> > <
> >
> https://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/catalog/control/EditProduct?productId=RoomStd
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> https://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/accounting/control/ListFixedAssetProducts?fixedAssetId=RentalShip
> > <
> >
> https://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/accounting/control/ListFixedAssetProducts?fixedAssetId=RentalShip
> > >
> >
> >
> > --Paul
> >
> > > On May 19, 2020, at 3:23 PM, ja...@productive1.com wrote:
> > >
> > > Is there a OTB function in ofbiz to handle rentals of propane tanks?
> > > How do the monthly invoice occur? Is it automated? How do you stop
> > > rental charges when cylinder is returned?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > James
> >
>


Re: Rental

2020-05-20 Thread Pritam Kute
Hello James,

AFAIK, there is no direct support available in OFBiz which will help you
set up the exact requirement you mentioned.

You can refer to the Rental Store in OFBiz[1]. This is an example of a
hotel reservation system that is not exactly as per your requirement but it
can help you get basic idea.

[1]
https://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/catalog/control/EditProductStore?productStoreId=RentalStore

HTH!

Regards,
--
Pritam Kute


On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 9:19 PM  wrote:

> Paul - How does the process work?  How does the monthly invoicing work?
> How do you track the ins and outs of the assetwhat if there are
> multiple of the same asset that is rented?
>
>  Original Message 
> Subject: Re: Rental
> From: Paul Mandeltort 
> Date: Tue, May 19, 2020 2:47 pm
> To: user@ofbiz.apache.org
>
> Haven’t used it but this might be a place to look, looks like you can
> configure products/rentals against an asset.
>
>
>
> https://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/catalog/control/EditProduct?productId=RoomStd
> <
> https://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/catalog/control/EditProduct?productId=RoomStd
> >
>
>
> https://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/accounting/control/ListFixedAssetProducts?fixedAssetId=RentalShip
> <
> https://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/accounting/control/ListFixedAssetProducts?fixedAssetId=RentalShip
> >
>
>
> --Paul
>
> > On May 19, 2020, at 3:23 PM, ja...@productive1.com wrote:
> >
> > Is there a OTB function in ofbiz to handle rentals of propane tanks?
> > How do the monthly invoice occur? Is it automated? How do you stop
> > rental charges when cylinder is returned?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > James
>


RE: Rental

2020-05-20 Thread james
Paul - How does the process work?  How does the monthly invoicing work? 
How do you track the ins and outs of the assetwhat if there are
multiple of the same asset that is rented?

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: Rental
From: Paul Mandeltort 
Date: Tue, May 19, 2020 2:47 pm
To: user@ofbiz.apache.org

Haven’t used it but this might be a place to look, looks like you can
configure products/rentals against an asset. 


https://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/catalog/control/EditProduct?productId=RoomStd
<https://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/catalog/control/EditProduct?productId=RoomStd>

https://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/accounting/control/ListFixedAssetProducts?fixedAssetId=RentalShip
<https://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/accounting/control/ListFixedAssetProducts?fixedAssetId=RentalShip>


--Paul

> On May 19, 2020, at 3:23 PM, ja...@productive1.com wrote:
> 
> Is there a OTB function in ofbiz to handle rentals of propane tanks? 
> How do the monthly invoice occur? Is it automated? How do you stop
> rental charges when cylinder is returned?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> James


Re: Rental

2020-05-19 Thread Paul Mandeltort
Haven’t used it but this might be a place to look, looks like you can configure 
products/rentals against an asset. 


https://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/catalog/control/EditProduct?productId=RoomStd
 
<https://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/catalog/control/EditProduct?productId=RoomStd>

https://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/accounting/control/ListFixedAssetProducts?fixedAssetId=RentalShip
 
<https://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/accounting/control/ListFixedAssetProducts?fixedAssetId=RentalShip>


--Paul

> On May 19, 2020, at 3:23 PM, ja...@productive1.com wrote:
> 
> Is there a OTB function in ofbiz to handle rentals of propane tanks? 
> How do the monthly invoice occur?  Is it automated?  How do you stop
> rental charges when cylinder is returned?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> James



Rental

2020-05-19 Thread james
Is there a OTB function in ofbiz to handle rentals of propane tanks? 
How do the monthly invoice occur?  Is it automated?  How do you stop
rental charges when cylinder is returned?

Thanks,

James


Ticket booking related to Rental product

2014-04-22 Thread Paramjit Saini
Hi,

I have created an ofbiz eCommerce application to book flight ticket. I have
created plane as fixed assets and flight as product. I have successfully
place an order. My question is :- how to complete an order related to
rental product? (because there is no need to shipping).

-- 
Thanks,Paramjit


Re: Ticket booking related to Rental product

2014-04-22 Thread Adrian Crum
You will not be able to model flights accurately with the rental 
functionality.


From my perspective, the seats are products. A flight could be a 
collection of seat products, as well as any additional items (baggage 
fees, meals, etc).



Adrian Crum
Sandglass Software
www.sandglass-software.com

On 4/22/2014 5:27 AM, Paramjit Saini wrote:

Hi,

I have created an ofbiz eCommerce application to book flight ticket. I have
created plane as fixed assets and flight as product. I have successfully
place an order. My question is :- how to complete an order related to
rental product? (because there is no need to shipping).



Re: Ticket booking related to Rental product

2014-04-22 Thread paramjit.saini
Hi Adrian,

It mean's if i have a flight in which 5 seats are available. I need to
create 5 products or need to follow the process of virtual/variant product
to associate the product each other and each variant product having single
inventory item.

Thanks,Paramjit


On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 6:39 PM, adrian.crum [via OFBiz] 
ml-node+s135035n4650551...@n4.nabble.com wrote:

 You will not be able to model flights accurately with the rental
 functionality.

  From my perspective, the seats are products. A flight could be a
 collection of seat products, as well as any additional items (baggage
 fees, meals, etc).


 Adrian Crum
 Sandglass Software
 www.sandglass-software.com

 On 4/22/2014 5:27 AM, Paramjit Saini wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I have created an ofbiz eCommerce application to book flight ticket. I
 have
  created plane as fixed assets and flight as product. I have successfully
  place an order. My question is :- how to complete an order related to
  rental product? (because there is no need to shipping).
 


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Rental Product / Fixed asset inventory calculation

2012-11-26 Thread Sudhir Singh
Hi,
Need Help in setting up a rental store using fixed asset. My problem is
that how can I get the inventory position for a particular date for that
fixed asset product. There might be some bookings for that day which needs
to be adjusted from total inventory. Is there any service/function to get
this?


Thanks
Sudhir


Re: Product rental with shipping and selling

2012-04-01 Thread Robert2012
Do someone else has an idea?

Kindly

Robert

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Re: Product rental with shipping and selling

2012-04-01 Thread Robert2012
Thank you for your message.
I allready use the product type you named.

But still the qustions above are not cleared. 
- I still have the number of persons and so on as input form on my product
details page (in webstore), but I do sell items, no rooms. I just need the
numbers of days which i already created and which is also shown.

- when an item is reserved for a customer (for rental), does the calendar in
the webstore (product details) do block this date / period to choose for new
rental customer?

- how do I handle, when the item to rent should also be to sell? I mean I
have 2 categories (selling used items and rental items). This product shall
be offered in both. After selling it should be blocked for rental (or empty
stock) and if it is not sold but on customers side for rental it should be
shown out of stock on the selling product



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Re: Product rental with shipping and selling

2012-04-01 Thread Hans Bakker

On 04/02/2012 06:32 AM, Robert2012 wrote:

Thank you for your message.
I allready use the product type you named.

But still the qustions above are not cleared.
- I still have the number of persons and so on as input form on my product
details page (in webstore), but I do sell items, no rooms. I just need the
numbers of days which i already created and which is also shown.
It could be that the e-commerce application is not updated yet for the 
relatively new product type.

- when an item is reserved for a customer (for rental), does the calendar in
the webstore (product details) do block this date / period to choose for new
rental customer?
could be, however the inventory will be zero, so it can not be given out 
again

- how do I handle, when the item to rent should also be to sell? I mean I
have 2 categories (selling used items and rental items). This product shall
be offered in both. After selling it should be blocked for rental (or empty
stock) and if it is not sold but on customers side for rental it should be
shown out of stock on the selling product

also inventory will take care of this.



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Re: Product rental with shipping and selling

2012-03-31 Thread Jacques Le Roux

Robert2012 wrote:

Hey guys,

1. Stock management
situation: I have a stock of *used *items like projectors. Now I want to
have these items on sale in my used items catagory. On the other handy I
want them for rental offers in my shop. Bothe Articles should use the same
product, that we can do a better stock management. If a customer rents this
projector the selling product should go to 0 items on stock, that no one can
buy it.

is that possible?


I never tried but I think so. A rental product is still a product but with an asset associated. I guess when ranted the product is 
not part of the stock.



2. rental product detals in webstore
when I create a reantal product (product type Fixed asset usage for
rental...) I still have the form for number of persons and number of rooms
there...ups, is it caused of the asset usage under the tab rental? Or how
do I have to change the product configuration to get just my number of
days in the frontenend?


Not sure, maybe we miss some config possiblity for this type of product at 
https://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/catalog/control/EditProduct



3. keep tracking of rentals
Is there a way to see a calendar where I see when the rental product ist on
customer side?
Do the customer get calendar entries (dates) in the calendard for rental in
the frontened blocked, when the product is reserved there for another rental
to other customer?


Not sure it's done automatically, Hans or/and Adrian could be more accurate 
here...


Thanks in advance and sorry for the really beginner questions, but this
system is so massiv, that I have to check every process to get into it.


HTH

Jacques


Best greetings from sunny Berlin :)

Robert 


Product rental with shipping and selling

2012-03-30 Thread Robert2012
Hey guys,

1. Stock management
situation: I have a stock of *used *items like projectors. Now I want to
have these items on sale in my used items catagory. On the other handy I
want them for rental offers in my shop. Bothe Articles should use the same
product, that we can do a better stock management. If a customer rents this
projector the selling product should go to 0 items on stock, that no one can
buy it.

is that possible?

2. rental product detals in webstore
when I create a reantal product (product type Fixed asset usage for
rental...) I still have the form for number of persons and number of rooms
there...ups, is it caused of the asset usage under the tab rental? Or how
do I have to change the product configuration to get just my number of
days in the frontenend?

3. keep tracking of rentals
Is there a way to see a calendar where I see when the rental product ist on
customer side?
Do the customer get calendar entries (dates) in the calendard for rental in
the frontened blocked, when the product is reserved there for another rental
to other customer?

Thanks in advance and sorry for the really beginner questions, but this
system is so massiv, that I have to check every process to get into it.

Best greetings from sunny Berlin :)

Robert


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Re: new product type: item rental

2011-08-30 Thread Adrian Crum

The items for rent are fixed assets of the rental company, not products.

-Adrian

On 8/30/2011 3:58 AM, Hans Bakker wrote:

We have a requirement to rent items like tools, video's cars motocycles
or other assets for a certain period of time.

The items will be handed out and returned at which point a service or
extra charge could be possible for damage.

I was thinking about a product which is delivered and where an automated
return authorization is assigned so the warehouse knows what is coming
back.

let me know any other ideas?



new product type: item rental

2011-08-29 Thread Hans Bakker
We have a requirement to rent items like tools, video's cars motocycles
or other assets for a certain period of time.

The items will be handed out and returned at which point a service or
extra charge could be possible for damage.

I was thinking about a product which is delivered and where an automated
return authorization is assigned so the warehouse knows what is coming
back.

let me know any other ideas?

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Re: where is Rental Store

2010-09-27 Thread Shereen

Hi all
I'm new to ofbiz and I have questions regarding the rentals
this is my case:
my company has some products for rent say equipments or machines no need to
ship just the very simple functions with any rentals start date and end date
and a flag so that if it's rented to somone we cant rent it to the another
client.
I found a catalog called rental but I dunno really how to deal with it.
Can anyone tell me simple steps as a user on how to setup a product not for
selling but for rentals? how to associate dates to the product?
the rental boats catalog does it include any special feature to say that its
products are for rent not for sail?
I'd be grateful if anyone can tell some steps how to handle this
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Re: where is Rental Store

2010-09-27 Thread BJ Freeman

https://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/catalog/control/EditProductStoreCatalogs?productStoreId=9000
add the rental catalog it will show up on the
choose catalog
http://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/ecommerce/control/main


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Shereen sent the following on 9/27/2010 12:01 AM:




Hi all
I'm new to ofbiz and I have questions regarding the rentals
this is my case:
my company has some products for rent say equipments or machines no need to
ship just the very simple functions with any rentals start date and end date
and a flag so that if it's rented to somone we cant rent it to the another
client.
I found a catalog called rental but I dunno really how to deal with it.
Can anyone tell me simple steps as a user on how to setup a product not for
selling but for rentals? how to associate dates to the product?
the rental boats catalog does it include any special feature to say that its
products are for rent not for sail?
I'd be grateful if anyone can tell some steps how to handle this


Re: where is Rental Store

2010-09-27 Thread Shereen

I've tried that thanks

Now I have the catalog rentals in the ecommerce and I wanted to try to book
the luxuray room for example.

Could you please give me more information on how this rentals work? where is
its calender ?

what if I want to book some thing from my back office?

how to specify that a certain product is for rent not for selling and how to
price it?

Thanks a lot for your help


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Re: where is Rental Store

2010-09-27 Thread BJ Freeman

you first need to understand how the catalog works and Products are made.
I think Ruth's books cover this.

The rental as it stands is not intuitive and requires customization to 
be useful in my opinion.

I spent about two months configuring mine for a boat slip rental.
Since Hans is the one that implemented it, you might contact him.

Shereen sent the following on 9/27/2010 3:36 AM:



I've tried that thanks

Now I have the catalog rentals in the ecommerce and I wanted to try to book
the luxuray room for example.

Could you please give me more information on how this rentals work? where is
its calender ?

what if I want to book some thing from my back office?

how to specify that a certain product is for rent not for selling and how to
price it?

Thanks a lot for your help




where is Rental Store

2010-03-22 Thread Matthieu Bollot
Hi all,
while looking at what is avalaible in OFBiz, I found the rental store.
The only problem is that I don't know how accessing it. Does anyone have
a clue ?
Thanks

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www.nereide.biz



Re: where is Rental Store

2010-03-22 Thread Hans Bakker
add the rental catalog to he e-commerce store and you have the products
available for rental

Regards,
Hans

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On Mon, 2010-03-22 at 15:33 +0100, Matthieu Bollot wrote:
 Hi all,
 while looking at what is avalaible in OFBiz, I found the rental store.
 The only problem is that I don't know how accessing it. Does anyone have
 a clue ?
 Thanks
 




Re: where is Rental Store

2010-03-22 Thread Matthieu Bollot
Le lundi 22 mars 2010 à 22:02 +0700, Hans Bakker a écrit :
 add the rental catalog to he e-commerce store and you have the products
 available for rental
 

thanks, i will look in this direction


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Matthieu BOLLOT
www.nereide.biz



Re: Questions about rental products and shipments

2009-12-06 Thread Anil Patel
Cimbaili,
The requirements you have are achievable in Ofbiz with some customization. The 
Products will have serialized inventory, this will allow you to track movement 
of exact item.

First time shipment will not be issue, Problem is when you take it back in 
stock. The OOTB process to take item back in stock may not fit you needs.

Ofbiz has set of tables modeled to track shipments (delivery and pickup) and UI 
is very flexible, may be too much. You may like to customize UI flow.
  
Thanks and Regards
Anil Patel
HotWax Media Inc
Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword ofbiz

On Dec 5, 2009, at 11:34 PM, Cimballi wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I try to use OFBiz for a rental business.
 The goal is to rent products and provide a delivery-pickup service
 with each order.
 
 I am facing two problems :
 1. Is it possible to have shipments with rental products ?
 2. Is there a way to represent these 2 shipments, delivery and pickup ?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Cimballi



Re: Questions about rental products and shipments

2009-12-06 Thread Cimballi
Hey Anil !

Thanks for your answer.

Here are some comments about my researches :
- By default, OFBiz doens't reserve RENTAL_ORDER_ITEM and so cannot
create a shipment with such an item.
- I updated the OrderServices class to allow this reservation, and now
it is working.
- This solution is not perfect because now the inventory item is mark
as delivered but in fact as it is a rental item, delivered is not a
final state, the item will be taken back to the company. Also, maybe
by updating the OrderServices class to allow reservation for
RENTAL_ORDER_ITEM I broke some logic, I don't know.

So, my next questions would be :
- Does anybody use OFBiz to manage rental business, like renting DVDs
? And if so, which solution do they use ?
- About the way OFBiz implements RENTAL_ORDER_ITEM, is there any
reason to not allow inventory reservation for these items ?

Thanks !

Cimballi


On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 8:43 AM, Anil Patel anil.pa...@hotwaxmedia.com wrote:
 Cimbaili,
 The requirements you have are achievable in Ofbiz with some customization. 
 The Products will have serialized inventory, this will allow you to track 
 movement of exact item.

 First time shipment will not be issue, Problem is when you take it back in 
 stock. The OOTB process to take item back in stock may not fit you needs.

 Ofbiz has set of tables modeled to track shipments (delivery and pickup) and 
 UI is very flexible, may be too much. You may like to customize UI flow.

 Thanks and Regards
 Anil Patel
 HotWax Media Inc
 Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword ofbiz

 On Dec 5, 2009, at 11:34 PM, Cimballi wrote:

 Hi,

 I try to use OFBiz for a rental business.
 The goal is to rent products and provide a delivery-pickup service
 with each order.

 I am facing two problems :
 1. Is it possible to have shipments with rental products ?
 2. Is there a way to represent these 2 shipments, delivery and pickup ?

 Thanks,

 Cimballi




Re: Questions about rental products and shipments

2009-12-06 Thread Anil Patel
I know there was some effort to implement Real Estate Rental long back. More 
recently there is other thread on list where people mention about what they 
have implemented as solution for Rental business.

I have to admit, Its not available OOTB in shape you will like it. Also quick 
work around will not get you the solution that will last.

If you have enough time, Please put your requirements on Apache Ofbiz wiki and 
send link to it on this list. If you lead the conversation appropriately there 
will be people who will help you model the system and to some extent help you 
implement as well. 

In my opinion, implementation of such system will require help of experienced 
ofbiz developer. 

Thanks and Regards
Anil Patel
HotWax Media Inc
Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword ofbiz

On Dec 6, 2009, at 5:26 PM, Cimballi wrote:

 Hey Anil !
 
 Thanks for your answer.
 
 Here are some comments about my researches :
 - By default, OFBiz doens't reserve RENTAL_ORDER_ITEM and so cannot
 create a shipment with such an item.
 - I updated the OrderServices class to allow this reservation, and now
 it is working.
 - This solution is not perfect because now the inventory item is mark
 as delivered but in fact as it is a rental item, delivered is not a
 final state, the item will be taken back to the company. Also, maybe
 by updating the OrderServices class to allow reservation for
 RENTAL_ORDER_ITEM I broke some logic, I don't know.
 
 So, my next questions would be :
 - Does anybody use OFBiz to manage rental business, like renting DVDs
 ? And if so, which solution do they use ?
 - About the way OFBiz implements RENTAL_ORDER_ITEM, is there any
 reason to not allow inventory reservation for these items ?
 
 Thanks !
 
 Cimballi
 
 
 On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 8:43 AM, Anil Patel anil.pa...@hotwaxmedia.com wrote:
 Cimbaili,
 The requirements you have are achievable in Ofbiz with some customization. 
 The Products will have serialized inventory, this will allow you to track 
 movement of exact item.
 
 First time shipment will not be issue, Problem is when you take it back in 
 stock. The OOTB process to take item back in stock may not fit you needs.
 
 Ofbiz has set of tables modeled to track shipments (delivery and pickup) and 
 UI is very flexible, may be too much. You may like to customize UI flow.
 
 Thanks and Regards
 Anil Patel
 HotWax Media Inc
 Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword ofbiz
 
 On Dec 5, 2009, at 11:34 PM, Cimballi wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I try to use OFBiz for a rental business.
 The goal is to rent products and provide a delivery-pickup service
 with each order.
 
 I am facing two problems :
 1. Is it possible to have shipments with rental products ?
 2. Is there a way to represent these 2 shipments, delivery and pickup ?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Cimballi
 
 



Re: Questions about rental products and shipments

2009-12-06 Thread Hans Bakker
Hi Cimballi

The current rental facilities within ofbiz are based on the rental of
non movable objects like hotelrooms. These rooms are represented as
fixed assets and a calendar is maintained if and how many are rented
out. So the system does know if a fixed asset is available or not.

The reason of using fixed assets is the possibility to have maintenance
activities on these fixed assets which make them unavailable for
renting.

You could make an function on top of the fixed asset,  registering if a
fixed asset is picked up or not with a connection to the order.
A screen for fixed assets expected to go out and a list of fixed assets
expected to come in.

sounds not too difficult?

Regards,
Hans


On Sat, 2009-12-05 at 23:34 -0500, Cimballi wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I try to use OFBiz for a rental business.
 The goal is to rent products and provide a delivery-pickup service
 with each order.
 
 I am facing two problems :
 1. Is it possible to have shipments with rental products ?
 2. Is there a way to represent these 2 shipments, delivery and pickup ?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Cimballi
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Re: Questions about rental products and shipments

2009-12-06 Thread Cimballi
Hi Anil and Hans !

Thanks a lot for your contribution and let's continue this thread,
maybe we will finish with detailed specs for new functionalities ! :-)

So, I will first explain what we want to do.
Our goal is to build a rental business, rental of movable objects
like you said. These can be DVDs, books, computers, anything you can
rent and which need shipping.
Furthermore, we want to provide a delivery-pickup with the renting. It
means we deliver the rented product to the customer, and when the
rental period is finished, we go to pick up the product.
I think that the functionalities are pretty simple to understand, let
me know if there is something unclear.

Now, here are some comments about what I've seen in OFBiz.
As you said and as I discovered, the rental module of OFBiz has been
designed for non-movable objects, or at least products you don't have
to ship.
There is also a shipment module, which, from my point of view, has
been designed to handle standard one way shipment.

So, here is what we miss :
- The rental system seems to work for any kind of products but I have
not sure it's necessary to create work items in all cases. I still
don't understand well this notion of work item, I suppose it is to
track the use of human resources. I think there should be a
distinction between rental products which requires work items and
rental products which do not.
- About the duration of a rent, it seems to me that the duration
precision level is the day, it should be possible to have a precision
level of the hour, maybe less.
- About the price of the rented product, for now the price is a base
price pe time, then it is multiplied by the duration. It should be
interesting to have a way to specify more complex prices. No concrete
sample to provide here, I still have to think about it.
- Have the shipment module work with rental items and service items.
This one is a big change I think. For rental products, one change
could be to associate an InventoryItem to the product and then use the
exisitng functionalities. Not sure if it can work because in this case
the item is not sold but rented, and maybe this specific state
requires more changes in the current services. For service items, the
goal is to handle the fact that when you sell a service, this service
may require shipments (or at least movements, not sure if the word
shipment is appropriate here).

Thanks for your time !

Cimballi


Questions about rental products and shipments

2009-12-05 Thread Cimballi
Hi,

I try to use OFBiz for a rental business.
The goal is to rent products and provide a delivery-pickup service
with each order.

I am facing two problems :
1. Is it possible to have shipments with rental products ?
2. Is there a way to represent these 2 shipments, delivery and pickup ?

Thanks,

Cimballi