Re: Struts boooks: remommendations?

[Erik Price]

On Apr 1, 2004, at 9:48 AM, Jan Normann Nielsen wrote:

I personally don't like this book. I think the Struts tag libraries 
are poorly documented (and differences for 1.0 which I'm using are not 
described) in this book and has few if no examples of usage. You are 
better off reading the online documentation. Just my €2.
I thought this boook did a good job of not reproducing the available 
online documentation, and instead offering a  more comprehensive 
discussion of the concepts of Struts.  In other words, I see this book 
not as a reference that one would thumb through frequently for the 
answers to questions about the Struts APIs, but rather as a good boook 
from which to learn how Struts works and about the various components 
of the framework.



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RE: Struts boooks: remommendations?

[Jesse Alexander (KXT)]

"Struts in Action" printable?

Yes, you can print it without a problem. (I've done it too)
You just need a good color-printer for the nice cover page ;-)

hth
Alexander

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Charles Jordan wrote:

>Can you print the pdf?
>  
>
I want to know this too. If I can't print the PDF of the "Struts in 
action" by Ted Husted and take it home for me to read, there is no point 
in buying the eBook even if it's cheaper.

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Re: Struts boooks: remommendations?

[Xuemin Guan]

Yes, you can. Nowadays, printable is one of the
product's features. 
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RE: Struts boooks: remommendations?

[Menke, John]

imo Struts In Action seemed to contain more useful real world information
than other struts books i have purchased

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I second this comment. The Cavaness It's not bad as a intermediate- to 
advanced-level book, but I tried to learn from this one first and found it
next to impossible. The examples are few and far between, and not 
explained from the basics up. They seem to assume some knowledge. And 
there's no examples or references for the tag libraries, and some of the 
tag concepts, especially when you're first learning, are 
next-to-impossible to glean from context.
My two favorites for learning Struts were "Mastering Jakarta Struts" by 
Goodwill (Wiley published), and "Struts Kickstart" by Turner and Bedell 
(Sams published). Between these two, I took off running and got my first 
app done.
Take care!
-Bill
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>I think "Programming Jakarta Struts" by 
>
>Chuck Cavaness is a bit better for a beginner.
>
I personally don't like this book. I think the Struts tag libraries are 
poorly documented (and differences for 1.0 which I'm using are not 
described) in this book and has few if no examples of usage. You are 
better off reading the online documentation. Just my EUR2.
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Re: Struts boooks: remommendations?

[William T Hansley]

I second this comment. The Cavaness It's not bad as a intermediate- to 
advanced-level book, but I tried to learn from this one first and found it 
next to impossible. The examples are few and far between, and not 
explained from the basics up. They seem to assume some knowledge. And 
there's no examples or references for the tag libraries, and some of the 
tag concepts, especially when you're first learning, are 
next-to-impossible to glean from context.

My two favorites for learning Struts were "Mastering Jakarta Struts" by 
Goodwill (Wiley published), and "Struts Kickstart" by Turner and Bedell 
(Sams published). Between these two, I took off running and got my first 
app done.

Take care!
-Bill






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Rick Reumann wrote:

>
>I think "Programming Jakarta Struts" by 
>
>Chuck Cavaness is a bit better for a beginner.
>
I personally don't like this book. I think the Struts tag libraries are 
poorly documented (and differences for 1.0 which I'm using are not 
described) in this book and has few if no examples of usage. You are 
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Re: Struts boooks: remommendations?

[Jan Normann Nielsen]

Charles Jordan wrote:

Can you print the pdf?
 

I want to know this too. If I can't print the PDF of the "Struts in 
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Re: Struts boooks: remommendations?

[Jan Normann Nielsen]

Rick Reumann wrote:

   I think "Programming Jakarta Struts" by 

   Chuck Cavaness is a bit better for a beginner.

I personally don't like this book. I think the Struts tag libraries are 
poorly documented (and differences for 1.0 which I'm using are not 
described) in this book and has few if no examples of usage. You are 
better off reading the online documentation. Just my €2.

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> Can you print the pdf?

Printable is one of the product's features.

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Re: Struts boooks: remommendations?

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Can you print the pdf?

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> > Struts, is up-to-date, and which focuses on Struts (not a book on web
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> > that context? From the sample chapters on line it seems like Struts in
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Re: Struts boooks: remommendations?

[Rick Reumann]

On Wed, Mar 31, 2004 at 10:22:06AM +0200, Jesse Alexander (KAID 11) wrote:

 
> Online doc is ok, but for a beginner Ted's book is better.

I think "Programming Jakarta Struts" by 
Chuck Cavaness is a bit better for a beginner. Ted seems to
cover a few  more concepts, but Chuck explains more of the
commonly used concepts in more depth so that you really
understand it.


http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0596003285/qid=1080738917/sr=2-2/ref=sr_2_2/103-7806751-9165401

Both books are very good, though.

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RE: Struts boooks: remommendations?

[Amit Kumar Sharma]

can u please mail the link for the Struts in action by ted husted. or any
online document which can be helpful.


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Struts in action by ted husted. Covers tiles and the validator quite
well to. Also the online doco for the project is pretty good.


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I'm looking for a good book on Struts, but there seem to be a number of
choices... Choice is all well and good, but i need some selection
criteria :-) I'm looking for a book that has comprehensive coverage of
Struts, is up-to-date, and which focuses on Struts (not a book on web
application development that happens to talk about Struts along the way,

for example).

So, what do people recommend? What books have you found most useful in
that context? From the sample chapters on line it seems like Struts in
Action may be a good choice but I don't know how up-to-date it is.

Suggestions appreciated :)

L.


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Re: Struts boooks: remommendations?

[Xuemin Guan]

If you already have some basic understanding or even little
practical experence of using it, I highly the book, "Struts Survival Guide"
(www.objectsource.com). It takes you one step further on how
extend the framework to fulfill your more advanced requirement.

PS. you can buy a download PDF file as well, which is much cheaper
than it's paper back conterpart.

Xuemin

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> Hi
>
> Try Professional Jakarta Struts from Wrox - It is way better than Struts
> in Action.
>
> Hermod
>
> -Opprinnelig melding-
> Fra: Laurie Harper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sendt: 31. mars 2004 08:10
> Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Emne: Struts boooks: remommendations?
>
>
> I'm looking for a good book on Struts, but there seem to be a number of
> choices... Choice is all well and good, but i need some selection
> criteria :-) I'm looking for a book that has comprehensive coverage of
> Struts, is up-to-date, and which focuses on Struts (not a book on web
> application development that happens to talk about Struts along the way,
>
> for example).
>
> So, what do people recommend? What books have you found most useful in
> that context? From the sample chapters on line it seems like Struts in
> Action may be a good choice but I don't know how up-to-date it is.
>
> Suggestions appreciated :)
>
> L.
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SV: Struts boooks: remommendations?

[hermod . opstvedt]

Hi

Try Professional Jakarta Struts from Wrox - It is way better than Struts
in Action.

Hermod

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I'm looking for a good book on Struts, but there seem to be a number of 
choices... Choice is all well and good, but i need some selection 
criteria :-) I'm looking for a book that has comprehensive coverage of 
Struts, is up-to-date, and which focuses on Struts (not a book on web 
application development that happens to talk about Struts along the way,

for example).

So, what do people recommend? What books have you found most useful in 
that context? From the sample chapters on line it seems like Struts in 
Action may be a good choice but I don't know how up-to-date it is.

Suggestions appreciated :)

L.


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RE: Struts boooks: remommendations?

[Jesse Alexander (KAID 11)]

second that...
other advantage: buy it for half the price as e-book. If you like it and
want it in real print: you can buy the printed book from mannigs at a lower
price (<http://www.manning.com/husted>).
I first bought it in real print, and then afterwards added the ebook, to 
have it with me whenever I carry my laptop with me ;-)

Online doc is ok, but for a beginner Ted's book is better.

hth
Alexander

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Struts in action by ted husted. Covers tiles and the validator quite
well to. Also the online doco for the project is pretty good. 


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I'm looking for a good book on Struts, but there seem to be a number of 
choices... Choice is all well and good, but i need some selection 
criteria :-) I'm looking for a book that has comprehensive coverage of 
Struts, is up-to-date, and which focuses on Struts (not a book on web 
application development that happens to talk about Struts along the way,

for example).

So, what do people recommend? What books have you found most useful in 
that context? From the sample chapters on line it seems like Struts in 
Action may be a good choice but I don't know how up-to-date it is.

Suggestions appreciated :)

L.


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RE: Struts boooks: remommendations?

[Gardner, David [IT]]

Struts in action by ted husted. Covers tiles and the validator quite
well to. Also the online doco for the project is pretty good. 


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I'm looking for a good book on Struts, but there seem to be a number of 
choices... Choice is all well and good, but i need some selection 
criteria :-) I'm looking for a book that has comprehensive coverage of 
Struts, is up-to-date, and which focuses on Struts (not a book on web 
application development that happens to talk about Struts along the way,

for example).

So, what do people recommend? What books have you found most useful in 
that context? From the sample chapters on line it seems like Struts in 
Action may be a good choice but I don't know how up-to-date it is.

Suggestions appreciated :)

L.


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Struts boooks: remommendations?

[Laurie Harper]

I'm looking for a good book on Struts, but there seem to be a number of 
choices... Choice is all well and good, but i need some selection 
criteria :-) I'm looking for a book that has comprehensive coverage of 
Struts, is up-to-date, and which focuses on Struts (not a book on web 
application development that happens to talk about Struts along the way, 
for example).

So, what do people recommend? What books have you found most useful in 
that context? From the sample chapters on line it seems like Struts in 
Action may be a good choice but I don't know how up-to-date it is.

Suggestions appreciated :)

L.

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