Re: [libreoffice-users] m$ office to gnu/linux rumour

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
Shorter answer is that it's vapour-ware.  It's a good tactic for trying to 
dilute one of LibreOffice's top "unique selling point"s.  

Wasn't there a typical Steve Ballmer 'speech' with him saying that MS Office 
2013 would not even become available on Macs?  
Regards from
Tom :)  





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>Subject: [libreoffice-users] m$ office to gnu/linux rumour
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>Readers,
>
>Rumours (kool-aid for the internet!) abound that m$ considering office
>2014 for gnu/linux.
>
>Any substance anyone?
>
>Nice competition for LO?
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Re: [libreoffice-users] oooforum.org

[Tim Lloyd]

Hi Tom,

the last 2 links work fine. http://www.oooforum.org/ not so. Which is a bit of 
a bummer as that is the link referenced in the "getting started" guide :(

No worries. I'll sleep on it and see if the server resets itself overnight (or 
I guess while the rest of the world is beavering away fixing problems such as 
this).

Cheers
- Original Message -
From: Tom Davies
Sent: 02/25/13 05:17 PM
To: Tim Lloyd, users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] oooforum.org

Hi :) 
The address seems to be working now if you do a google search for OpenOffice 
forums and click on their links. Clicking on the link in your email doesn't 
work though and directly typing the address into the url-bar doesn't work 
either. 

Between 2010 and a few months after Apache were given those sites they kept 
falling over or going down. At first people thought it was Oracle taking them 
down permanently but later it became clear it was just their inability to be 
reliable. Under Apache those sites seem to have been fine until now. Perhaps 
they are moving to better servers this week and that's causing a temporary 
blip? 

I copy&pasted these links from a google search
http://www.oooforum.org/
http://www.oooforum.org/forum/
http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/
All worked fine for me but can you click on them? Weird isn't it?
Regards from
Tom :) 

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From: Tim Lloyd 
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Monday, 25 February 2013, 3:17
Subject: [libreoffice-users] oooforum.org
Hi, not an issue with LO but hopefully someone has some feedback.

I am just flicking through the LO4.0 "getting started" guide and there is a 
reference to http://www.oooforum.org/ . When I click on that link 
(fedora/firefox/seamonkey) the browser just sits there and eventually times 
out. Is this address still valid?

I tried the address in Windows 7 with the same result.

Cheers

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Re: [libreoffice-users] m$ office to gnu/linux rumour

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
I doubt they would manage to port it.  Going in that direction is a major pita 
because they suddenly have to deal with being serious about security from the 
ground up rather than botching a patch on after-the-fact or they would have to 
try to break the OS down somehow into allowing them to run as 
Root/SuperUser/AdminUser all the time.  Porting from Gnu&Linux or Bsd to 
Windows is much easier.  Porting is pretty much a one-way street without 
getting into totally re-designing.  

Plus their efforts would not make economic sense.  They continue to claim that 
Gnu&Linux is only 1% of the desktop market so why would they put so much effort 
into breaking into that market?  Plus they keep saying the desktop is dead and 
that Cloud and mobile is the future.  So why put tons of resources into 1% of a 
dying market??

If they are aiming for mobile devices then surely they would sort out touch 
first and then use that to try to rescue their own mobile devices.  Mobile 
devices are 1 area  where Gnu&Linux dominates.   Android, Blackberry, Chrome 
and others are Gnu&Linux.  Apparently iPad and IPhone are 2nd place with 
Android in the number 1 spot.  So it might make sense to aim for those markets 
except that would somewhat destroy their own devices' chances of penetrating 
the market better.  Their office is often considered a killer app that keeps 
people locked in Windows.  Porting it to other platforms dilutes their 
marketing of their devices.  

So, why would a profit-making company sink tons of resources on trying to 
capture 1% of a market that would resist them quite heavily even if they made 
it?  

The games industry is being welcomed and people are buying games and things for 
Gnu&Linux systems and that is creating a radical re-think for corporate 
software producers.  However even though all other companies could enjoy 
profitable success on Gnu&Linux MS would have serious problems trying to gain 
any sort of traction at all.  


One of LibreOffice's top selling points is that it works on all platforms.  Any 
rumours of MS getting onto Gnu&Linux is purely to detract from that.  They 
couldn't really make a version that worked.  Generally called "vapour-ware".  
It's a good tactic.  

Regards from
Tom :)  





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>Readers,
>
>Rumours (kool-aid for the internet!) abound that m$ considering office
>2014 for gnu/linux.
>
>Any substance anyone?
>
>Nice competition for LO?
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[libreoffice-users] Re: default & converted headers

[edo1]

Right, thanks. The personwho supplied the docx I'm working on didn't know
about styles, and messed up the headers. I've found my way through them now.


Brian Barker wrote
> At 15:49 24/02/2013 -0800, Nobody Noname wrote:
>>When I open docx files (originally written in Word) in LO, I notice 
>>that choosing Insert > Headers or Insert > Footers gives me two 
>>choices "Default" and "Converted1". I haven't found an explanation 
>>of these, or how one is to chose between them.
> 
> Header and footers are properties of page styles.  In general, 
> documents will use a number of page styles, and you may wish to 
> insert headers or footers into some of them or to insert different 
> ones into different styles.  So you choose the page style into which 
> you want to insert the header or footer.
> 
> Every text (Writer) document starts with the Default page style.  You 
> may create others.  What has happened here is presumably that the 
> conversion process from .docx has created a page style to match the 
> behaviour of the original .docx file.  You can check which parts of 
> your document are styled as "Converted1" and which - if any - as 
> "Default" and insert your headers or footers appropriately.
> 
> I trust this helps.
> 
> Brian Barker
> 
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[libreoffice-users] promotion possibility for LibO

[rost52]

Accidentally I found the following link:http://openclipart.org/and there I 
found following textHow can I use these images in
OpenOffice.org?
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OpenOffice.org(up to version
  2.3) does not natively support SVG files, however there are two
  broad approaches to getting theOCALimages into OpenOffice.
  The first approach is using vector formats, which are inherently
  higher quality and scale very well. The second, or fall back,
  approach is to use bitmap/raster formats, which do not scale well.


Can this be forwarded to our marketing people to possibly use
  this for promotion?




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Re: [libreoffice-users] default & converted headers

[Brian Barker]

At 15:49 24/02/2013 -0800, Nobody Noname wrote:
When I open docx files (originally written in Word) in LO, I notice 
that choosing Insert > Headers or Insert > Footers gives me two 
choices "Default" and "Converted1". I haven't found an explanation 
of these, or how one is to chose between them.


Header and footers are properties of page styles.  In general, 
documents will use a number of page styles, and you may wish to 
insert headers or footers into some of them or to insert different 
ones into different styles.  So you choose the page style into which 
you want to insert the header or footer.


Every text (Writer) document starts with the Default page style.  You 
may create others.  What has happened here is presumably that the 
conversion process from .docx has created a page style to match the 
behaviour of the original .docx file.  You can check which parts of 
your document are styled as "Converted1" and which - if any - as 
"Default" and insert your headers or footers appropriately.


I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 3 & 4 on same machine

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
My deepest apologise for that!  

>From where you are now, to recover, you might only need to run the 3.6.5 
>installer again and choose the repair option.  That should fix it.  This link 
>is to the 3.6.5 English (US) version
http://www.libreoffice.org/download/?type=win-x86&lang=en-US&version=3.6.5

If that doesn't work and you really do need to uninstall either version 3.6.5 
first then either of these links should be able to help 
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-GB/windows7/Uninstall-or-change-a-program
http://gizmodo.com/5138189/win-7-tip-where-the-hell-is-addremove-programs
When i am actually on a Windows system i am usually somewhat scared to go to 
microsoft.com even at work and i'm certain the system is properly licensed and 
i can rech the key easily if i need to re-enter it.  On people's home machines 
i am never quite sure if the site is going to throw a curved-ball at me.  The 
other address just seems rude so normally i wouldn't click it but it seemed 
fine.  


If/when i recommend installing to a usb stick or other portable device then 
it's using the "Portable Apps" version.  NOT the regular download.  Here is the 
link for the portable apps version
http://www.libreoffice.org/download/portable/
I probably don't make it clear enough though so i can understand why people 
might have missed that.  Apparently the portable apps version can even be 
installed to Cloud systems so that you can access LibreOffice on any machine 
that lets you access your Cloud.  I've not tried that though.  


One other problem on Miss Keating's system is that keeping OpenOffice on your 
system might cause confusion for your machine.  NeoOffice, Lotus Symphony, 
Go-oo, OpenOffice and LibreOffice all have the same core code and make the same 
calls to components that have the same names so it can all be a tad confusing 
for a system to have more than 1 version of any of those installed.  That's why 
some smart people have written the guide for installing LibreOffice in parallel
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel
Although it only specifically talks about 2 versions of LibreOffice the same is 
often true when one of the versions is one of the other forks.    

Hopefully one day all mention of soffice will be replaced by  libreoffice or 
something.  I just hope they don't go for the name libo because that could 
cause some confusion for people familiar with unix-based systems.  

Good luck with sorting the mess out!  Please start a new thread about it and 
let us know how it goes!
Apols and regards from 
Tom :)  





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> From: Miss Keating 
>To: edo1  
>Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org 
>Sent: Monday, 25 February 2013, 5:40
>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 3 & 4 on same machine
> 
>On 2/24/2013 6:37 PM, edo1 wrote:
>> I'm currently running LO ver 3 on Vista x64. Before I commit to ver 4 I'd
>> like to run both versions for a while. Will this work if I load ver 4 in a
>> separate Program Files folder?
>> 
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>> 
>You may wish to take warning from my recent experience. I had LO3.5 happily 
>operational on a Win7 system, but wanted to try 4.0. I downloaded the files to 
>a USB stick, my j:drive, and installed the programme there. I seem to remember 
>Tom Davies suggesting that procedure to some other user. It worked just fine 
>for 4.0, but the installation of 4.0 destroyed3.5 back on the c: drive. I 
>disconnected the USB stick, which of course then left me with no working 
>version of LO, and tried to load 3.6.5, only to be told that a "newer version" 
>had been detected, which must be removed to permit installation of 3.6.5.
>
>That is of course absurd since there is no LO at all installed on the machine 
>as long as the USB stick is disconnected. There are remnants, such as 7 levels 
>of subdirectories, all empty, under a LO3.5 subdirectory in programs(x86), and 
>several short-cut icons whose "properties" all show them as inoperative.
>
>I don't know how to remove a program which doesn't exist, so until I can 
>straighten this business out I am left with only OO, or LO4.0 running from the 
>stick. Perhaps I have to invoke a "restore point"?
>
>By my lights, it's a very unsavoury practice to have an installer destroy 
>existing installations without (a) warning you that that's what it's about to 
>do, and, (b) asking your permission, but that's what happened to me. May you 
>have better luck, and if you succeed, you might tell us how you did it.
>
>
>trj
>
>
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[libreoffice-users] m$ office to gnu/linux rumour

[e-letter]

Readers,

Rumours (kool-aid for the internet!) abound that m$ considering office
2014 for gnu/linux.

Any substance anyone?

Nice competition for LO?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] oooforum.org

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)  

The address  seems to be working now if you do a  google search for OpenOffice 
forums and click on their links.  Clicking on the link in your email doesn't 
work though and directly typing the address into the url-bar doesn't work 
either.  


Between 2010 and a few months after Apache were given those sites they kept 
falling over or going down.  At first people thought it was Oracle taking them 
down permanently but later it became clear it was just their inability to be 
reliable.  Under Apache those sites seem to have been fine until now.  Perhaps 
they are moving to better servers this week and that's causing a temporary 
blip?  


I copy&pasted these links from a google search

http://www.oooforum.org/
http://www.oooforum.org/forum/

http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/
All worked fine for me but can you click on them?  Weird isn't it?
Regards from
Tom :)  





>
> From: Tim Lloyd 
>To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
>Sent: Monday, 25 February 2013, 3:17
>Subject: [libreoffice-users] oooforum.org
> 
>Hi, not an issue with LO but hopefully someone has some feedback.
>
>I am just flicking through the LO4.0 "getting started" guide and there is a 
>reference to http://www.oooforum.org/. When I click on that link 
>(fedora/firefox/seamonkey) the browser just sits there and eventually times 
>out. Is this address still valid?
>
>I tried the address in Windows 7 with the same result.
>
>Cheers
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Exporting Text File to PDF (One Page At A time)

[Hal Vaughan]

On Feb 25, 2013, at 12:53 AM, "John D. Herron"  
wrote:

> I believe you can print your ODT files to PDF either as one single file or as 
> a collection of one-per-page files.

The trick is finding the settings so you can specify which page or pages from 
within a macro.

But I've got it all worked out for an export.



Hal



> 
> jdh
> 
> 
> On 02/23/2013 09:16 AM, Hal Vaughan wrote:
>> 
>> On Dec 28, 2012, at 5:01 AM, lordmax tdf  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi to all
>>> 
>>> Il 28/12/2012 02:02, Girvin R. Herr ha scritto:
 
 
 Hal Vaughan wrote:
> I'm exporting ODT files to PDF, but I want to export only 1 page at a
> time, so I'm using a BASIC macro to handle this.
> 
> I've been searching, but since somewhere around 3-4am EST, I have not
> been able to access oooforum.org and most links lead to there.
> 
> I can't find examples elsewhere that show me how to export a PDF file
> from in BASIC or how to specify, again, from BASIC, what pages to export.
> 
> Can anyone give me links for examples that are not on oooforum.org?
> Or tell me what classes I would be using for this so I can look them
> up in the IDL to find out how to specify the page (or pages) to export
> and how to use the PDF exporter?
> 
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hal
 
>>> 
>>> If you need a single pdf for every page of your document it's better to 
>>> create a single pdf and then separate every page with an external program 
>>> specialized in this.
>> 
>> I haven't been able to get back to this for a while.
>> 
>> So I have to ask why one would say this?  In many cases the purpose of doing 
>> something from a macro inside LibreOffice is to have an integrated solution 
>> so one doesn't depend on having to run external programs.
>> 
>> I've been looking into this and this is quite possible - granted, it took me 
>> about 6-8 hours to find all the details, but it's possible.  I'll be posting 
>> a sample within the next few days.
>> 
>> It just seems to me saying it's better to do something else is a "can't do" 
>> attitude that defeats much of what one would want to do with macros.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hal
>> 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Exporting Text File to PDF (One Page At A time)

[John D. Herron]

I believe you can print your ODT files to PDF either as one single file 
or as a collection of one-per-page files.


jdh


On 02/23/2013 09:16 AM, Hal Vaughan wrote:


On Dec 28, 2012, at 5:01 AM, lordmax tdf  wrote:


Hi to all

Il 28/12/2012 02:02, Girvin R. Herr ha scritto:



Hal Vaughan wrote:

I'm exporting ODT files to PDF, but I want to export only 1 page at a
time, so I'm using a BASIC macro to handle this.

I've been searching, but since somewhere around 3-4am EST, I have not
been able to access oooforum.org and most links lead to there.

I can't find examples elsewhere that show me how to export a PDF file
from in BASIC or how to specify, again, from BASIC, what pages to export.

Can anyone give me links for examples that are not on oooforum.org?
Or tell me what classes I would be using for this so I can look them
up in the IDL to find out how to specify the page (or pages) to export
and how to use the PDF exporter?


Thank you.




Hal




If you need a single pdf for every page of your document it's better to create 
a single pdf and then separate every page with an external program specialized 
in this.


I haven't been able to get back to this for a while.

So I have to ask why one would say this?  In many cases the purpose of doing 
something from a macro inside LibreOffice is to have an integrated solution so 
one doesn't depend on having to run external programs.

I've been looking into this and this is quite possible - granted, it took me 
about 6-8 hours to find all the details, but it's possible.  I'll be posting a 
sample within the next few days.

It just seems to me saying it's better to do something else is a "can't do" 
attitude that defeats much of what one would want to do with macros.



Hal



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Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 3 & 4 on same machine

[Miss Keating]

On 2/24/2013 6:37 PM, edo1 wrote:

I'm currently running LO ver 3 on Vista x64. Before I commit to ver 4 I'd
like to run both versions for a while. Will this work if I load ver 4 in a
separate Program Files folder?

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You may wish totake warning from my recent experience. I had LO3.5 
happily operational on a Win7 system, but wanted to try 4.0. I 
downloaded the files to a USB stick, my j:drive, and installed the 
programme there. I seem to remember Tom Davis suggesting that procedure 
to some other user. It worked just fine for 4.0, but the installation of 
4.0 destroyed3.5 back on the c: drive. I disconnected the USB stick, 
which of course then left me with no working version of LO, and tried to 
load 3.6.5, only to be told that a "newer version" had been detected, 
which must be removed to permit installation of 3.6.5.


That is of course absurd since there is no LO at all installed on the 
machine as long as the USB stick is disconnected. There are remnants, 
such as 7 levels of subdirectories, all empty, under a LO3.5 
subdirectory in programs(x86), and several shortcut icons whose 
"properties" all show them as inoperative.


I don't know how to remove a program which doesn't exist, so until I can 
straighten this business out I am left with only OO,or LO4.0 running 
from the stick. Perhaps I have to invoke a "restore point"?


By my lights, it's a very unsavory practice to have an installer destroy 
existing installations without (a) warning you that that's what it's 
about to do, and, (b) asking your permission, but that's what happened 
to me. May you have better luck, and if you succeed, you might tell us 
how you did it.



trj






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[libreoffice-users] oooforum.org

[Tim Lloyd]

Hi, not an issue with LO but hopefully someone has some feedback.

I am just flicking through the LO4.0 "getting started" guide and there is a 
reference to http://www.oooforum.org/. When I click on that link 
(fedora/firefox/seamonkey) the browser just sits there and eventually times 
out. Is this address still valid?

I tried the address in Windows 7 with the same result.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Double Underline Problem

[Michael Wu]

Jay Ridgley 提到:
> Hi Y'all,
>
> I just subscribed to the list. I have a question/problem wto Double
> Underlining.
>
> In several of my spreadsheets I use this and until recently (last set
> of updates) it worked as I wanted. However, they now appear as a heavy
> black line.
>
> Details:
>
> Format cells > Line
> Style: double underline
> Width: 0.05 pt
> Color: Black
>
> LibreOffice Version 3.5.7.2 Build ID: 350m1(Build2)
>
> on Ubuntu 12.04-2 LTS w/ Cinnamon 2D Desktop w/all Updates applied
>
> How do I fix it and/or get it back to the way it was?
>
> Thanks,
> Jay
Hi Jay,

If the printout is OK, then this is a display problem and you may try to
install the latest official build ( ver. 4.0.0 or ver. 3.6.5 ).

Hope it helps and regards,


Michael



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[libreoffice-users] default & converted headers

[edo1]

When I open docx files (originally written in WORD) in LO, I notice that
choosing Insert > Headers or Insert > Footers gives me two choices "Default"
and "Converted1". I haven't found an explanation of these, or how one is to
chose between them. Can someone point me to a help page? Thanks - edo1



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Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 3 & 4 on same machine

[Tim Lloyd]

Hi, there is a brief tutorial here. I haven't tried it under windows but it 
works under linux. Good luck

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel
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I'm currently running LO ver 3 on Vista x64. Before I commit to ver 4 I'd like 
to run both versions for a while. Will this work if I load ver 4 in a separate 
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[libreoffice-users] LO 3 & 4 on same machine

[edo1]

I'm currently running LO ver 3 on Vista x64. Before I commit to ver 4 I'd
like to run both versions for a while. Will this work if I load ver 4 in a
separate Program Files folder? 



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Looking for PyUno Contributor(s)

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
Ahh, i meant the docs team are good at supporting and helping people that want 
to do documentation tasks.  They are not precious about it or offended if 
people go off and do their own thing.  

Btw those links look good.  Please can you add the links to the 3rd party wiki?
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Other_Documentation_and_Resources

I'm not completely happy with the name in that url.  I would prefer something 
like one of these
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/3rdPartyGuides
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/UnofficialGuides
or make it a sub-page off the Publications page so something like
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications/Unofficial
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications/ThirdParty

Other suggestions or which would you prefer?  I tried asking on the Docs Team's 
list but got distracted and never got a clear answer.  Once i have a good name 
i can create an auto-redirect from the current page (which got named in a hurry 
without really thinking about it)

Regards from
Tom :)  





>
> From: Adam Tauno Williams 
>To: "users@global.libreoffice.org"  
>Sent: Sunday, 24 February 2013, 22:29
>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Looking for PyUno Contributor(s)
> 
>On Sun, 2013-02-24 at 19:56 +, Tom Davies wrote:
>> Hi :)
>> The documentation team needs a LOT more people.  At the moment it
>> barely has enough to just work on the guides (which were extremely
>> well received at Scale btw).  
>> If these other attempts at documentation are done through by
>> individuals through blogs and personal spaces then when/if those
>> individuals "run out of steam"  or if outside life takes over then the
>> work would be lost or difficult to carry on with - or even difficult
>> to find at all. 
>
>I agree completely - but it would help to get people off-the-ground and
>using the technology.  I cannot document a technology that I can't [very
>easily] get up and rolling with.  I'm just saying not to make the
>perfect the enemy of the good [which happens terribly often in Open
>Source land].
>
>Aside:  PUNO  which is an
>UNO connector for PUNO is a nice bit of code; we use that to generate
>documents on our website/webservice.
>
>Various UNO getting started guides:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Looking for PyUno Contributor(s)

[Adam Tauno Williams]

On Sun, 2013-02-24 at 19:56 +, Tom Davies wrote:
> Hi :)
> The documentation team needs a LOT more people.  At the moment it
> barely has enough to just work on the guides (which were extremely
> well received at Scale btw).  
> If these other attempts at documentation are done through by
> individuals through blogs and personal spaces then when/if those
> individuals "run out of steam"  or if outside life takes over then the
> work would be lost or difficult to carry on with - or even difficult
> to find at all. 

I agree completely - but it would help to get people off-the-ground and
using the technology.  I cannot document a technology that I can't [very
easily] get up and rolling with.  I'm just saying not to make the
perfect the enemy of the good [which happens terribly often in Open
Source land].

Aside:  PUNO  which is an
UNO connector for PUNO is a nice bit of code; we use that to generate
documents on our website/webservice.

Various UNO getting started guides:










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Re: [libreoffice-users] Going to an "OnExit' Routine On Dialog Button Event

[Hal Vaughan]

On Feb 24, 2013, at 9:32 AM, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak  
wrote:

> 
> On 02/23/2013 03:24 AM, Hal Vaughan wrote:
>> I have a macro in LO BASIC that sets up a dialog, then, instead of executing 
>> it, I do:
>> 
>> oDialog.setVisible(TRUE)
>> 
>> This dialog box contains a progress bar and, while testing it, I realized 
>> it's frustrating for longer documents to have a progress bar and force me to 
>> sit and wait without a way to cancel it.  So I added a Cancel button.
>> 
>> This dialog is in my library and I'd like to find a way to set up the 
>> "Cancel" button so it can either stop the script or possibly even call a 
>> clean up routine when it's been pressed - or have it change the state of a 
>> global variable so a routine could see if it's been pressed.
>> 
>> I know there are event handlers so I can do something on events like 
>> MouseOver and so on.
>> 
>> And if I were not putting this in a library, I could easily specify, in the 
>> Dialog Settings, which routine to call on Cancel.
>> 
>> But if I want the dialog in a library, is there a way, when calling the 
>> function that sets it up, to specify a routine to call when the Cancel 
>> button is pressed?  Or is there some way to create a global variable or any 
>> kind of flag that I could have changed when the button is pressed?
>> 
>> In other words, other than putting in a "Stop" command, or specifying one 
>> routine name to call when an event triggers it, can I pass on the name or 
>> pointer to a routine that would be called when the button is pressed?
>> 
>> 
>> Hal
> Disclaimer: I have never tried or considered what you desire to do, but. 
> I suppose that I would first test this (should be easy to do).
> 
> First, what is it that you are doing that you desire to interrupt? 
> Specifically, is it your macro code that is running for a long time, or, did 
> it make a call that is running for a long time? If it is your own macro, I 
> would try setting a global in an event handler and check that global in your 
> code. You could create a quick test

Basically, interrupt my macro.  It's part of the PDF export page by page I was 
working on.  Many of the documents I want to export would be 90-180 pages.  
When exporting a PDF for each page, that can take a bit of time.  (Not much - 
especially for someone who remembers the waits for simple tasks back in the 
1980s on a computer, but still, enough.)  I have a dialog up with a progress 
bar so there's no long wait wonder what's going on, and it seems wrong to not 
have a cancel button so, if after doing 4-5 pages, the "Oh, crap!  That's not 
the one I wanted to save that way!" thing pops into my head.

> while the "cancel requested global is not true" and two minutes has not 
> elapsed
>  do something like add zero to a variable
> 
> Print "I am out and finished"

Okay - looking up info on this now.  I haven't used globals in LO BASIC yet, 
but this will work.

Normally I'd just have the cancel button call a specific subroutine, but I'd 
rather keep it so this dialog box and the function to set it up is in a library 
so I don't duplicate code.

> Then, you can check to see if you can set the global variable by clicking on 
> a cancel button and having the event handler be called. I am not optimistic 
> that this will work, but, it is worth a try. I am very interested in your 
> results.

It'll take me a few days to get to it.  I'll post what would happen.  I would 
think it'd work - why are you not optimistic about it?



Hal
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Looking for PyUno Contributor(s)

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
Ahah, could someone add links to those on the 3rd party wiki page?
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Other_Documentation_and_Resources#Programmers
Regards from
Tom :)  





>
> From: Alex Thurgood 
>To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
>Sent: Sunday, 24 February 2013, 20:34
>Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Looking for PyUno Contributor(s)
> 
>On 02/24/2013 08:32 PM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
>
>Hi all,
>
>
>> I've even attempted to make several runs at it.  The documentations is a
>> *@(^&@*$^&@*# crime.   There are silly trivial "Hello World" examples,
>> and there is the dump of the API.  And nothing in between.
>
>mailmerge.py
>LibreLogo.py
>LightProof (dictionaries)
>The new wizards (by Xisco Fauli) written in python ?
>The Barcode extension
>Bernard Macelly's MRI extension ?
>
>
>So there are several examples around, even within the LO code itself, if
>one takes the time to have a look.
>
>There is also :
>http://opendocumentfellowship.com/resources/dev_tools#python
>
>which deals more with manipulating ODF documents.
>
>
>Alex
>
>
>
>
>
>
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[libreoffice-users] Re: Re-Connecting LO Base to an SQL DB

[Alex Thurgood]

On 02/24/2013 04:05 PM, Ian Whitfield wrote:

> Is there another way to input the CSV data if it is a bug??
> 

http://www.softwareprojects.com/resources/programming/t-how-to-use-mysql-fast-load-data-for-updates-1753.html





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[libreoffice-users] Re: Re-Connecting LO Base to an SQL DB

[Alex Thurgood]

On 02/24/2013 04:05 PM, Ian Whitfield wrote:

Hi Ian,

> You could be right Alex!! I KNOW one of these two ways worked for me
> last time!!
> Is there another way to input the CSV data if it is a bug??

http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/load-data.html


Alex



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Looking for PyUno Contributor(s)

[Alex Thurgood]

On 02/24/2013 08:32 PM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:

Hi all,


> I've even attempted to make several runs at it.  The documentations is a
> *@(^&@*$^&@*# crime.   There are silly trivial "Hello World" examples,
> and there is the dump of the API.  And nothing in between.

mailmerge.py
LibreLogo.py
LightProof (dictionaries)
The new wizards (by Xisco Fauli) written in python ?
The Barcode extension
Bernard Macelly's MRI extension ?


So there are several examples around, even within the LO code itself, if
one takes the time to have a look.

There is also :
http://opendocumentfellowship.com/resources/dev_tools#python

which deals more with manipulating ODF documents.


Alex







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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Looking for PyUno Contributor(s)

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)  

If the documentation is available but needs pulling together and de-geekifying 
then the Docs Team are a good place to do that.  If it needs writing from 
scratch (scuse the pun) then some devs probably need to be involved too.  


Writing code and writing documentation for technical readers is a radically 
different skill-set from writing so that the rest of us can understand it.  

Regards from
Tom :)  





>
> From: Joel Madero 
>To: awill...@whitemice.org 
>Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org 
>Sent: Sunday, 24 February 2013, 19:56
>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Looking for PyUno Contributor(s)
> 
>On 02/24/2013 11:32 AM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
>> On Sun, 2013-02-24 at 16:56 +0100, Wolfgang Keller wrote:
 If I'm incorrect, please let me know what is correct - but I'm pretty
 sure that someone with some PyUno skills will be needed.
>>> I would guess that those are rare, since PyUNO is at about the best
>>> kept secret of LO(/OO).
>> +1 +1 +1
>>
>> I've even attempted to make several runs at it.  The documentations is a
>> *@(^&@*$^&@*# crime.   There are silly trivial "Hello World" examples,
>> and there is the dump of the API.  And nothing in between.
>>
>> If someone implements this as a contribution to the project *PLEASE
>> PLEASE PLEASE* do a step-by-step BLOG article/series of it.  I'll send
>> them a six-pack;  just let me know the URL.
>>
>> There really seems to be an *AMAZING* amount of power just sitting there
>> to be used - but it is completely obscured to anyone not aleady familiar
>> with UNO's syntax and vocabulary.
>>
>> Especially with the introduction of CMIS support it really seems a great
>> time to facilitate real automation via LibreOffice.
>>
>This seems to be a general consensus and it sucks for my purposes at 
>least :-/
>
>Another option is just going straight python and at least compiling the 
>necessary numbers, then manually doing the charts and what not.
>
>Anyone able to do this?
>
>Maybe we need to get doc team involved at some point with PyUno to see 
>if they can start getting decent documentation together.
>
>
>Best,
>Joel
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Looking for PyUno Contributor(s)

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
The documentation team needs a LOT more people.  At the moment it barely has 
enough to just work on the guides (which were extremely well received at Scale 
btw).  

If these other attempts at documentation are done through by individuals 
through blogs and personal spaces then when/if those individuals "run out of 
steam"  or if outside life takes over then the work would be lost or difficult 
to carry on with - or even difficult to find at all.  By joining the 
Documentation Team you can use centralised resources such as their ODFAuthors 
site to make the work more likely to be continued by others.  Other people in 
the team are often helpful and encouraging and are experienced at writing for 
non-technical end-users and can help gain consistent use of terms and phrases.  
Joining the team means your work will not get wasted if unforeseen 
circumstances (such as suddenly gaining a shed load more clients) conspire to 
reduce the amount of time you can spend on the work.  

People are encouraged to join in with the work they are currently doing in 
order to gain some experience with their process and then perhaps use that 
experience to get on with their original plans.  
Regards from
Tom :)  





>
> From: Adam Tauno Williams 
>To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
>Sent: Sunday, 24 February 2013, 19:32
>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Looking for PyUno Contributor(s)
> 
>On Sun, 2013-02-24 at 16:56 +0100, Wolfgang Keller wrote:
>> > If I'm incorrect, please let me know what is correct - but I'm pretty
>> > sure that someone with some PyUno skills will be needed.
>> I would guess that those are rare, since PyUNO is at about the best
>> kept secret of LO(/OO).
>
>+1 +1 +1
>
>I've even attempted to make several runs at it.  The documentations is a
>*@(^&@*$^&@*# crime.   There are silly trivial "Hello World" examples,
>and there is the dump of the API.  And nothing in between.
>
>If someone implements this as a contribution to the project *PLEASE
>PLEASE PLEASE* do a step-by-step BLOG article/series of it.  I'll send
>them a six-pack;  just let me know the URL.
>
>There really seems to be an *AMAZING* amount of power just sitting there
>to be used - but it is completely obscured to anyone not aleady familiar
>with UNO's syntax and vocabulary.
>
>Especially with the introduction of CMIS support it really seems a great
>time to facilitate real automation via LibreOffice.
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Looking for PyUno Contributor(s)

[Joel Madero]

On 02/24/2013 11:32 AM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:

On Sun, 2013-02-24 at 16:56 +0100, Wolfgang Keller wrote:

If I'm incorrect, please let me know what is correct - but I'm pretty
sure that someone with some PyUno skills will be needed.

I would guess that those are rare, since PyUNO is at about the best
kept secret of LO(/OO).

+1 +1 +1

I've even attempted to make several runs at it.  The documentations is a
*@(^&@*$^&@*# crime.   There are silly trivial "Hello World" examples,
and there is the dump of the API.  And nothing in between.

If someone implements this as a contribution to the project *PLEASE
PLEASE PLEASE* do a step-by-step BLOG article/series of it.  I'll send
them a six-pack;  just let me know the URL.

There really seems to be an *AMAZING* amount of power just sitting there
to be used - but it is completely obscured to anyone not aleady familiar
with UNO's syntax and vocabulary.

Especially with the introduction of CMIS support it really seems a great
time to facilitate real automation via LibreOffice.

This seems to be a general consensus and it sucks for my purposes at 
least :-/


Another option is just going straight python and at least compiling the 
necessary numbers, then manually doing the charts and what not.


Anyone able to do this?

Maybe we need to get doc team involved at some point with PyUno to see 
if they can start getting decent documentation together.



Best,
Joel

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Looking for PyUno Contributor(s)

[Adam Tauno Williams]

On Sun, 2013-02-24 at 16:56 +0100, Wolfgang Keller wrote:
> > If I'm incorrect, please let me know what is correct - but I'm pretty
> > sure that someone with some PyUno skills will be needed.
> I would guess that those are rare, since PyUNO is at about the best
> kept secret of LO(/OO).

+1 +1 +1

I've even attempted to make several runs at it.  The documentations is a
*@(^&@*$^&@*# crime.   There are silly trivial "Hello World" examples,
and there is the dump of the API.  And nothing in between.

If someone implements this as a contribution to the project *PLEASE
PLEASE PLEASE* do a step-by-step BLOG article/series of it.  I'll send
them a six-pack;  just let me know the URL.

There really seems to be an *AMAZING* amount of power just sitting there
to be used - but it is completely obscured to anyone not aleady familiar
with UNO's syntax and vocabulary.

Especially with the introduction of CMIS support it really seems a great
time to facilitate real automation via LibreOffice.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Double Underline Problem

[John Jason Jordan]

On Sun, 24 Feb 2013 07:01:02 -0600
Jay Ridgley  dijo:

>Hi Y'all,
>
>I just subscribed to the list. I have a question/problem wto Double
>Underlining.
>
>In several of my spreadsheets I use this and until recently (last set
>of updates) it worked as I wanted. However, they now appear as a heavy
>black line.
>
>Details:
>
>Format cells > Line
>Style: double underline
>Width: 0.05 pt
>Color: Black
>
>LibreOffice Version 3.5.7.2 Build ID: 350m1(Build2)

I suspect the problem is the width setting, which you have at 0.05. It
has been a long time since I used a double underline, but I seem to
recall that I had to set the width to the total width of the two lines,
not to the width of the individual lines.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Looking for PyUno Contributor(s)

[Wolfgang Keller]

> If I'm incorrect, please let me know what is correct - but I'm pretty
> sure that someone with some PyUno skills will be needed.

I would guess that those are rare, since PyUNO is at about the best
kept secret of LO(/OO).

Sincerely,

Wolfgang

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Going to an "OnExit' Routine On Dialog Button Event

[Fernand Vanrie]

Op 24/02/2013 15:32, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak schreef:


On 02/23/2013 03:24 AM, Hal Vaughan wrote:
I have a macro in LO BASIC that sets up a dialog, then, instead of 
executing it, I do:


oDialog.setVisible(TRUE)

This dialog box contains a progress bar and, while testing it, I 
realized it's frustrating for longer documents to have a progress bar 
and force me to sit and wait without a way to cancel it.  So I added 
a Cancel button.
set in your loop who is running he progress bar, a "halt" who sould(on 
reglar times) check the state of your Cancel button

hope it helps

Fernand


This dialog is in my library and I'd like to find a way to set up the 
"Cancel" button so it can either stop the script or possibly even 
call a clean up routine when it's been pressed - or have it change 
the state of a global variable so a routine could see if it's been 
pressed.


I know there are event handlers so I can do something on events like 
MouseOver and so on.


And if I were not putting this in a library, I could easily specify, 
in the Dialog Settings, which routine to call on Cancel.


But if I want the dialog in a library, is there a way, when calling 
the function that sets it up, to specify a routine to call when the 
Cancel button is pressed?  Or is there some way to create a global 
variable or any kind of flag that I could have changed when the 
button is pressed?


In other words, other than putting in a "Stop" command, or specifying 
one routine name to call when an event triggers it, can I pass on the 
name or pointer to a routine that would be called when the button is 
pressed?



Hal
Disclaimer: I have never tried or considered what you desire to do, 
but. I suppose that I would first test this (should be easy to do).


First, what is it that you are doing that you desire to interrupt? 
Specifically, is it your macro code that is running for a long time, 
or, did it make a call that is running for a long time? If it is your 
own macro, I would try setting a global in an event handler and check 
that global in your code. You could create a quick test



while the "cancel requested global is not true" and two minutes has 
not elapsed

  do something like add zero to a variable

Print "I am out and finished"


Then, you can check to see if you can set the global variable by 
clicking on a cancel button and having the event handler be called. I 
am not optimistic that this will work, but, it is worth a try. I am 
very interested in your results.






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Re: [libreoffice-users] Does Libre Office have its own distinct set of fonts?

[webmaster-Kracked_P_P]

I think part of the problem is that LO does place fonts in a folder that 
is not the system's font folder.  So if the user has some DejaVu fonts 
already installed, LO may use its version of fonts over the ones the 
user installed.  Also there would be some fonts in the LO list that are 
not in the font list for any other package.


One problem may be that LO cannot install the fonts in the different 
distro's font folders.  Windows-based, DEB-based, RPM-based, Mac-based, 
systems all have different ways of installing fonts.  So it may be hard 
to get the font installation for each OS or distro of Linux to work 
properly.


Still, there are issues with package loading up a Windows systems with 
all the different fonts that "they" want and not the user choice of 
fonts.  Some packages require a specific font for their operation, and 
do not use the "default" system fonts.  That can be a problem for users 
to reduce the number of fonts in their font folder[s].  Ubuntu hides 
many fonts in their /usr/share/fonts/ folder system.  I see Type 1 fonts 
listed and I do not know why Ubuntu would need Type 1 fonts now that TTF 
and OTF fonts are the "standard" font format.  But, I will not remove 
them since they were installed for a reason.  The only installed fonts 
the system installed are the ones that were designed for Asian, India, 
and Arabic type of language fonts.


As for the "closeness" between versions of Windows, or Linux, it all 
depends on the desktop environment and where/how they store the system 
"values".  Windows tends to change the placement of program and user 
data with every new version.  The only thing that seems to change 
between a Ubuntu or Debian based distro is the desktop environment.  For 
our windows users, that is the way the display show all of the needed 
items to do the work.  Think the visual differences between XP, Vista, 
Win7, and the pain of Win8. Think of how you use the "Start Button" or 
task bar items.  Linux has many different "display" types.  Ubuntu can 
have its display look many different ways.  My Ubuntu 12.04 can use the 
"tile based" Unity, or other desktop environments like KDE, MATE, 
Cinnamon, or a variety of others to change the look and feel of the 
desktop, making it look like different OSs, even though it is the same 
OS but different ways of seeing and using things.  I personally have 
Unity, KDE and MATE installed for my Ubuntu 12.04 system.



On 02/24/2013 03:22 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
I think Win7 and Xp are so different from each other that each would qualify as 
a separate distro.  They are a bit like 2 distros from different families.  
It's not even as close as Mint or Ubuntu to Debian.

Errr, the answer was Win7 but i think that was given later in this thread.
Regards from
Tom :)







From: Dan Lewis 
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Sunday, 24 February 2013, 0:45
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Does Libre Office have its own distinct set of 
fonts?

   distro: the operating system on your computer (Windows, Linux, OS
X, etc.)
   AAMOF: as far as my other fonts
The latter is a "guess" but it seems logical. So, if you would tell us
one more time, what is your operating system. That will tell us the
location of your font folder or folders.

--Dan


On 02/23/2013 07:40 PM, anne-ology wrote:

  Thank you for responding;
   but I haven't the foggiest idea what you've said.

  the font directory of the distro  ???   ...  AAMOF  ???

  I would really enjoy getting rid of all those 'junk' fonts ... and
finding then dropping in the good ones;
   but I haven't a clue as to how to so do.

  ok, it's probably some simple step to locate these then drop them
into whatever folder ...
   but 'the more I learn of these glorified typewriters, the
stupider I feel'  ;-)   ;-)   ;-)



On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 6:20 PM, Doug  wrote:

On 02/23/2013 06:22 PM, anne-ology wrote:

   Then how does one get these new ones into the programs for use?

As you quoted me before, you weren't reading what I said: put the

ffonts in the font directory of your distro.  they should then be
available for any program on the machine, including LO. That's
just what I did on the Mint installation.  AAMOF, I deleted all
the crap fonts that were on the machine--Liberation and a
whole batch of Asian fonts in languages I couldn't even recognize--
and just dumped in a whole directory of usable fonts--probably
True-Type, supplied on another distro that wasn't so damned PC.

--doug


On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Doug  wrote:

On 02/21/2013 12:30 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:


On 02/21/2013 12:01 PM, Paddy Landau wrote:

I am wondering if Libre Office has a separate set of fonts from the

operating system, or at least some of the fonts.

I'll explain my problem.

If I have a look at Character Map to find a character that I want
(let's
say
it is an aerop

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Re-Connecting LO Base to an SQL DB

[Ian Whitfield]

On 24/02/13 15:21, Alex Thurgood wrote:


Which version of LO are you using, in particular, are you using the 
PCLinuxOS version of LO, or one from the official LO download page ?


It might be a bug in that version.




You could be right Alex!! I KNOW one of these two ways worked for me 
last time!!

Is there another way to input the CSV data if it is a bug??

I'm using PClinuxOS 2013.02 with LO 3.6.5.2 (Build ID: 5b93205) from the 
PCLOS Depository (via Synaptic).


IanW
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Going to an "OnExit' Routine On Dialog Button Event

[Andrew Douglas Pitonyak]

On 02/23/2013 03:24 AM, Hal Vaughan wrote:

I have a macro in LO BASIC that sets up a dialog, then, instead of executing 
it, I do:

oDialog.setVisible(TRUE)

This dialog box contains a progress bar and, while testing it, I realized it's 
frustrating for longer documents to have a progress bar and force me to sit and 
wait without a way to cancel it.  So I added a Cancel button.

This dialog is in my library and I'd like to find a way to set up the "Cancel" 
button so it can either stop the script or possibly even call a clean up routine when 
it's been pressed - or have it change the state of a global variable so a routine could 
see if it's been pressed.

I know there are event handlers so I can do something on events like MouseOver 
and so on.

And if I were not putting this in a library, I could easily specify, in the 
Dialog Settings, which routine to call on Cancel.

But if I want the dialog in a library, is there a way, when calling the 
function that sets it up, to specify a routine to call when the Cancel button 
is pressed?  Or is there some way to create a global variable or any kind of 
flag that I could have changed when the button is pressed?

In other words, other than putting in a "Stop" command, or specifying one 
routine name to call when an event triggers it, can I pass on the name or pointer to a 
routine that would be called when the button is pressed?


Hal
Disclaimer: I have never tried or considered what you desire to do, 
but. I suppose that I would first test this (should be easy to do).


First, what is it that you are doing that you desire to interrupt? 
Specifically, is it your macro code that is running for a long time, or, 
did it make a call that is running for a long time? If it is your own 
macro, I would try setting a global in an event handler and check that 
global in your code. You could create a quick test



while the "cancel requested global is not true" and two minutes has not 
elapsed

  do something like add zero to a variable

Print "I am out and finished"


Then, you can check to see if you can set the global variable by 
clicking on a cancel button and having the event handler be called. I am 
not optimistic that this will work, but, it is worth a try. I am very 
interested in your results.



--
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My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt
Info:  http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Double Underline Problem

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
Usually if weird things suddenly start happening then it's worth renaming the 
User Profile to "get back to factory defaults"
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/UserProfile
Regards from
Tom :)  





>
> From: Jay Ridgley 
>To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
>Sent: Sunday, 24 February 2013, 13:01
>Subject: [libreoffice-users] Double Underline Problem
> 
>Hi Y'all,
>
>I just subscribed to the list. I have a question/problem wto Double 
>Underlining.
>
>In several of my spreadsheets I use this and until recently (last set of 
>updates) it worked as I wanted. However, they now appear as a heavy black line.
>
>Details:
>
>Format cells > Line
>Style: double underline
>Width: 0.05 pt
>Color: Black
>
>LibreOffice Version 3.5.7.2 Build ID: 350m1(Build2)
>
>on Ubuntu 12.04-2 LTS w/ Cinnamon 2D Desktop w/all Updates applied
>
>How do I fix it and/or get it back to the way it was?
>
>Thanks,
>Jay
>-- 
>
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[libreoffice-users] Re: Re-Connecting LO Base to an SQL DB

[Alex Thurgood]

Le 24/02/2013 14:05, Ian Whitfield a écrit :

Hi Ian,


As per the WebSite I opened my already prepared DB Table and tried the
instruction to "Drag the Calc Sheet from Calc to the open DB Table". All
I get is a red circle with a line through it which I interpolate as
meaning "Not Allowed".

So I went the other way and from both Calc and directly from the CSV
file I Selected All, Copied this and then went to the Base Table and
selected Edit>Paste. Absolutely nothing happens - not even an error
message

What am I doing wrong or what have I missed?? I've checked all the
Column Names match the DB Field Names exactly and the order of them both
is the same.


Which version of LO are you using, in particular, are you using the 
PCLinuxOS version of LO, or one from the official LO download page ?


It might be a bug in that version.

Alex




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Re-Connecting LO Base to an SQL DB

[Ian Whitfield]

Thanks Alex and Girvin - Very much appreciated!!

Girvin - Thanks for all your kind comments and suggestions!! I WILL do 
something like this once I have everything sorted out. I like your idea 
of a spare drive and I do have a couple of "Drive Bays" here although I 
also have two external USB Hard Drives so I think either would do.


I particularly like that you sent me your script for back-up. Thanks a 
lot for that!! I had already given 'MySQL Dump" a quick look and marked 
it for further investigation once I'm finished. I do however have a 
couple of problems with "Back-up Programs", and this comes from years of 
trying to use them!! Mostly they seem to have a very bad trate of 
failing on Restore!! I also don't like the way they "compress" the data 
so that you can not use it directly. One of the reasons I like a 'Mirror 
Drive" way of doing things. Always usable and no compression - 
de-compression to go wrong!!


Alex - I note and see your comments on the way different versions of 
software may or may not work and the way different distros work. With 
PCLOS you can select if you want to format the Drive or Partition where 
the new OpSys is going. I have always felt it was better to do this to 
get a proper "clean install". So naturally if there is any data there 
that will be lost. I STILL think it is wrong to put data there and 
that's what caught me out as I NEVER expected it to be there. Adding 
separate Folders I feel would complicate the Path structure and still 
does not get round a system format. I think Girvin is on the right track 
here!!


OK Guys - thanks once again... As you say "You learn as you go along"!!

Right now however I have hit another brick wall!!!

Last time when I did this I had no problem importing CSV data but this 
time I can not get it to work!!!??


I had the old CSV file I used before and open this with Calc. I then 
spent yesterday "cleaning it up" and then decided to import it. I can't 
remember which way I did it last time so did a quick Google...


As per the WebSite I opened my already prepared DB Table and tried the 
instruction to "Drag the Calc Sheet from Calc to the open DB Table". All 
I get is a red circle with a line through it which I interpolate as 
meaning "Not Allowed".


So I went the other way and from both Calc and directly from the CSV 
file I Selected All, Copied this and then went to the Base Table and 
selected Edit>Paste. Absolutely nothing happens - not even an error 
message


What am I doing wrong or what have I missed?? I've checked all the 
Column Names match the DB Field Names exactly and the order of them both 
is the same.


I'm afraid I' stumped again.

Thanks Guys.

IanW
Pretoria RSA

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[libreoffice-users] Double Underline Problem

[Jay Ridgley]

Hi Y'all,

I just subscribed to the list. I have a question/problem wto Double Underlining.

In several of my spreadsheets I use this and until recently (last set of 
updates) it worked as I wanted. However, they now appear as a heavy black line.


Details:

Format cells > Line
Style: double underline
Width: 0.05 pt
Color: Black

LibreOffice Version 3.5.7.2 Build ID: 350m1(Build2)

on Ubuntu 12.04-2 LTS w/ Cinnamon 2D Desktop w/all Updates applied

How do I fix it and/or get it back to the way it was?

Thanks,
Jay
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[libreoffice-users] Re: Re-Connecting LO Base to an SQL DB

[Alex Thurgood]

Le 23/02/2013 11:56, Ian Whitfield a écrit :

Hi Ian,

> I have accepted what has happened and am busy re-building my DB from
> scratch! IMHO it is still WRONG to store Data in an area that gets
> overwritten every time you do a upgrade or re-install. In over 30 years

Usually, an simple upgrade of mysql will not overwrite your tables.
Sometimes, it will create a new data directory, and keep your previous
data in an old/renamed directory (e.g. migrated, or "old", or even
tagged with the previous version number) - this is what happens on OSX,
for example. However, what happens exactly is very dependent on the
Linux distribution's version of mysql that they happen to have modified
to suit their system. Each distro tends to do its own thing, which can
be immensely frustrating. Debian based distros like Ubuntu/Mint and
consorts tend to use debconf, with which, personally, I still have
rather a hard time. PCLinuxOS used to be Mandrake based, but I'm not so
sure now. I imagine that RedHat and Suse have yet another mechanism for
auto-configuring the setup and migration of mysql data when upgrading
versions. So, as usual with many things Linux, YMMV, which as a casual
user can be a right, royal PITA.


If, however, you do a fresh install of your operating system, well,
then, I would say that it is to be expected that your data on the root
drive gets wiped. There are various ways to mitigate this, including
having separate partitions for /(root), /usr (for most graphical
applications and their basic configuration data), /var (for stuff like
mailserver and database data) and /home (for users' data and
configuration files), but most distributions do not offer that in the
simplified installation routine, where everything tends to get installed
into a single /(root) partition. If you keep things separate as
indicated above, you can even re-install your OS (up to a certain
extent, at least) without trashing your /home or other sensitive or
important data areas.


Anyway, enough of the preaching, you live and learn as they say, I know
I certainly did, but it did involve frequent hair pulling at times !!


Alex




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Does Libre Office have its own distinct set of fonts?

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
I think Win7 and Xp are so different from each other that each would qualify as 
a separate distro.  They are a bit like 2 distros from different families.  
It's not even as close as Mint or Ubuntu to Debian.  

Errr, the answer was Win7 but i think that was given later in this thread.  
Regards from
Tom :)  





>
> From: Dan Lewis 
>To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
>Sent: Sunday, 24 February 2013, 0:45
>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Does Libre Office have its own distinct set 
>of fonts?
> 
>      distro: the operating system on your computer (Windows, Linux, OS 
>X, etc.)
>      AAMOF: as far as my other fonts
>The latter is a "guess" but it seems logical. So, if you would tell us 
>one more time, what is your operating system. That will tell us the 
>location of your font folder or folders.
>
>--Dan
>
>
>On 02/23/2013 07:40 PM, anne-ology wrote:
>>         Thank you for responding;
>>              but I haven't the foggiest idea what you've said.
>>
>>         the font directory of the distro  ???   ...  AAMOF  ???
>>
>>         I would really enjoy getting rid of all those 'junk' fonts ... and
>> finding then dropping in the good ones;
>>              but I haven't a clue as to how to so do.
>>
>>         ok, it's probably some simple step to locate these then drop them
>> into whatever folder ...
>>              but 'the more I learn of these glorified typewriters, the
>> stupider I feel'  ;-)   ;-)   ;-)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 6:20 PM, Doug  wrote:
>>
>> On 02/23/2013 06:22 PM, anne-ology wrote:
          Then how does one get these new ones into the programs for use?

   As you quoted me before, you weren't reading what I said: put the
>>> ffonts in the font directory of your distro.  they should then be
>>> available for any program on the machine, including LO. That's
>>> just what I did on the Mint installation.  AAMOF, I deleted all
>>> the crap fonts that were on the machine--Liberation and a
>>> whole batch of Asian fonts in languages I couldn't even recognize--
>>> and just dumped in a whole directory of usable fonts--probably
>>> True-Type, supplied on another distro that wasn't so damned PC.
>>>
>>> --doug
>>>
 On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Doug  wrote:

 On 02/21/2013 12:30 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:

> On 02/21/2013 12:01 PM, Paddy Landau wrote:
>>   I am wondering if Libre Office has a separate set of fonts from the
>>> operating system, or at least some of the fonts.
>>>
>>> I'll explain my problem.
>>>
>>> If I have a look at Character Map to find a character that I want
>>> (let's
>>> say
>>> it is an aeroplane), I can find it in the Webdings font (Unicode 00d2,
>>> or
>>> Ò). See screenshot 1:
>>>
>>> 
>>> n4039236/Character_Map.png>> org/file/n4039236/Character_**Map.png
>>> But when I use that character in Libre Office and set the font to
>>> Webdings,
>>> it shows a different character, specifically an in-box. See screenshot
>>> 2:
>>>
>>> >> Libre_Office_**
>>> characters.png>> n4039236/Libre_Office_**characters.png
>>>
>>>
>>> Note that not all characters do this. For example, the first 52
>>> characters
>>> (A-Z and a-z) are correct.
>>>
>>> I would like to know how to solve this discrepancy, so that I can
>>> search
>>> for
>>> characters in Character Map (or an equivalent program) and then use
>>> them
>>> in
>>> Libre Office. (I have tried an alternative program, Specimen Font
>>> Viewer,
>>> and it shows the same thing as Character Map.)
>>>
>>> I am using Linux Ubuntu 12.04 (64-bit, fully updated) with Libre Office
>>> 4.0.0.3 (installed directly from the Libre Office website).
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   My 12.04 shows a list of fonts at
>> /opt/libreoffice4.0/share/fonts/truetype/
>>
>>
>> They are mostly "DejaVu" and "Liberation" fonts but there are others
>> listed as well.
>>
>> I made sure the fonts listed there were also listed in the /.fonts/
>> hidden folder.  that way I had the same fonts for all my packages.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>    I was recently looking at Mint, a derivative of Ubuntu, and I was
>>
> appalled at the paucity of fonts. "Liberation" is ugly! You need to find
> a
> good
> set of True-Type fonts and install them.  Then you can have, for example,
> Times-Roman.  And most o