[libreoffice-users] change default window size

[Virgil Arrington]

Urmas wrote:

>>"Maciej Jaros"

>> It's a window manager thing, not really AOO responsibility.

>It is LOO responsibility to properly restore its window size. So that is a 
bug.

I don’t get it. I’m using LO with Windows 7. Every time I open LO, it opens in 
the same window size and position it was in when I closed it the previous 
session. If there’s a bug in this area, it certainly doesn’t show up on my 
computer.

Virgil
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Penguins: (Was Corrupt Installer Errors??)

[Virgil Arrington]

These two messages 'splain a lot. You Linux dudes are really weird. ;)

Virgil

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Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 8:53 PM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Corrupt Installer Errors??


I collect every non-movie-character penguin stuffed animal as I can
find.  I think they are cute, for some odd reason.

Still, it would be interesting to see more Tux Penguin "items" being
sold somewhere so you could have a "Tux" on your desk or door, or
somewhere.  Then if the ask why you have a pengiun there, you could tell
them.  Actually, I found severl hundred penguin images that have the
character dressed in super hero and other "costumes".  I even have a
self made poster stating that my place is defended by a Penguin Defence
Squad with about a dozen costume character penguines that are dresses in
such a way that I would not want to have a bunch of humans dress liked
that I had to go up against, even if a few look more Halloween costume
than real type people would wear.




On 10/04/2013 11:09 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Maybe consider being nice to them and getting a cute cuddly penguin as a 
present.  Also see if you can spot anyone that already has a penguin on 
their desk as they might be more amenable to using OpenSource software.


Personally i tend to hate cute and cuddly things but even so if it was a 
penguin that would make me smile.  Penguins are so cool, especially Tux

Regards from
Tom :)





 From: contrazz 
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Wednesday, 2 October 2013, 4:59
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Corrupt Installer Errors??


Wow!
Nice thread hijack, folks!
>From busted downloads to nefarious Wi-Fi in three easy steps!

My company's firewall doesn't allow torrent downloads.

I never use IE unless it's the only option.
I used Firefox and Chrome - with identical, broken results.
Eventually, I took one of the computers off-site, and immediately got a 
good

download.  .
Back inside the perimeter, another try yielded another broken file.
I'll grouch to my IT crew about it tomorrow.

Hope y'all have fun with the Wi-Fi thread ... !



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Re: [libreoffice-users] change default window size

[Kracked_P_P---webmaster]

On 10/05/2013 07:35 AM, Virgil Arrington wrote:
> Urmas wrote:
>
>>> "Maciej Jaros"
>>> It's a window manager thing, not really AOO responsibility.
>> It is LOO responsibility to properly restore its window size. So that is a 
> bug.
>
> I don’t get it. I’m using LO with Windows 7. Every time I open LO, it opens 
> in the same window size and position it was in when I closed it the previous 
> session. If there’s a bug in this area, it certainly doesn’t show up on my 
> computer.
>
> Virgil

That is what it does on my Win7 Home and Professional editions, plus
Linux as well.

It is not a bug.  It may be that it took the position and size from your
last use and decided that was part of your preferences and placed into
your user profile. 

Well, think of it, if you have a larger, or smaller, monitor than others
and you need to have the pages at 130% to read them correctly [or 75%]
then it would be tedious to always have to resize your pages every time
you open LO.

I prefer it to be a little bit larger than the "default" size.  I open
it up on my large monitor and tend to have it full screen height, but a
little over half the screen's width.  I would hat to have to resize the
window every time I opened a LO document. 

I think it is just another way that LO tried to use your preferred
defaults, whether it is fonts, page size within the window, or the
window size. 

I really would miss this "ability" if it was taken from me.  It saves me
a whole lot of hassle every time I open a LO document.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] change default window size

[M Henri Day]

2013/10/5 Virgil Arrington 

> Urmas wrote:
>
> >>"Maciej Jaros"
>
> >> It's a window manager thing, not really AOO responsibility.
>
> >It is LOO responsibility to properly restore its window size. So that is a
> bug.
>
> I don’t get it. I’m using LO with Windows 7. Every time I open LO, it
> opens in the same window size and position it was in when I closed it the
> previous session. If there’s a bug in this area, it certainly doesn’t show
> up on my computer.
>
> Virgil


​As one of those «really weird»​
​ Linux people, Virgil, I can report that my installation, i e, the Swedish
language edition of LO (4.1.1.2, Build ID : 410m0 (Build:2))​
​ performs precisely as you describe above ; i e, that window size and
position is retained from the preceding session

Henri​

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Penguins: (Was Corrupt Installer Errors??)

[Kracked_P_P---webmaster]

We are not weird, just passonate about Open Source.

Actually, to be honest, having some type of penguin stuff animal or sign
at our work desks can be a good conversation starter for Linux, Open
Source Packages, and even LO.  Instead of you coming to them, they come
to you and would not be concidered rude on your side to answer questions
when they come to you.

The Penguin Defence Squad poster was just something to give others a
good laugh. 

Well, to be perfectly honest, it is weird for us to . . . .
1 - want to pay for an operating system for our computers, if we get a
good one for free. 

2 - want to pay for an office suite when you can get a good one for free
- think LO

3 - want to deal with all of the crashes and other stability issues

4 - want to have the OS "type" that runs most of the Internet and other
"must be up 99.99% of the time" servers?

5 - want to have the freedom to choose what the desktop environment will
look like - Untiy, KDE, MATE, and a whole lot of others - instead of
what some big company boss decides you must like.

It is called Freedom

by the way
more and more industries are moving over to Linux as their primary
business systems, desktop and server, and dropping MS products, after MS
decided that everyone wanted those little tiles on your computer and
many other things that businesses really do not want.

Would you have 10+ windows open and on the screen or minimized to the
"tray"?  When I work, I tend to have many windows open at the same time,
or minimized so I can interact with all them creating my documents. 
Last Time I tried it on Windows, Vista or Win7, it was a nightmare.

I really love Ubuntu Linux over Windows 7.  I started using Linux when I
could not find a free Windows package to do what I needed after the
Windows package crashed and would not allow me to reinstall it.  I have
been using it as my default desktop since early spring of 2010.  I have
all my Windows laptops dual booting to Ubuntu as well.  There are
something I need Windows for, but I rarely use it more than a few times
a month.

Yes, we are weird, but it is a good weird.

On 10/05/2013 07:44 AM, Virgil Arrington wrote:
> These two messages 'splain a lot. You Linux dudes are really weird. ;)
>
> Virgil
>
> -Original Message- From: Kracked_P_P---webmaster
> Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 8:53 PM
> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Corrupt Installer Errors??
>
>
> I collect every non-movie-character penguin stuffed animal as I can
> find.  I think they are cute, for some odd reason.
>
> Still, it would be interesting to see more Tux Penguin "items" being
> sold somewhere so you could have a "Tux" on your desk or door, or
> somewhere.  Then if the ask why you have a pengiun there, you could tell
> them.  Actually, I found severl hundred penguin images that have the
> character dressed in super hero and other "costumes".  I even have a
> self made poster stating that my place is defended by a Penguin Defence
> Squad with about a dozen costume character penguines that are dresses in
> such a way that I would not want to have a bunch of humans dress liked
> that I had to go up against, even if a few look more Halloween costume
> than real type people would wear.
>
>
>
>
> On 10/04/2013 11:09 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
>> Hi :)
>> Maybe consider being nice to them and getting a cute cuddly penguin
>> as a present.  Also see if you can spot anyone that already has a
>> penguin on their desk as they might be more amenable to using
>> OpenSource software.
>>
>> Personally i tend to hate cute and cuddly things but even so if it
>> was a penguin that would make me smile.  Penguins are so cool,
>> especially Tux
>> Regards from
>> Tom :)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>  From: contrazz 
>> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
>> Sent: Wednesday, 2 October 2013, 4:59
>> Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Corrupt Installer Errors??
>>
>>
>> Wow!
>> Nice thread hijack, folks!
>> >From busted downloads to nefarious Wi-Fi in three easy steps!
>>
>> My company's firewall doesn't allow torrent downloads.
>>
>> I never use IE unless it's the only option.
>> I used Firefox and Chrome - with identical, broken results.
>> Eventually, I took one of the computers off-site, and immediately got
>> a good
>> download.  .
>> Back inside the perimeter, another try yielded another broken file.
>> I'll grouch to my IT crew about it tomorrow.
>>
>> Hope y'all have fun with the Wi-Fi thread ... !
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>
>


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Re: [libreoffice-users] change default window size

[Walther Koehler]

Hallo,

I have had some troubles with retaining a correct size window opening i.e. 
*.odt files (linux, several versions of OO and LO) since years. I did some 
experiments and found, that window size is stored within an *.odt but somehow 
interferes with the defaults in
registrymodifications.xcu

Any time I used a command line like

soffice --writer --headless -pt printer file

while having a writer instance running, afterwards all files.odt were opened 
in a distorted window.

I tried to correct the parameters in the
registrymodifications.xcu
but it was restored to the wrong settings on a regular scheme by someone else 
(probably the writer prog itself).

Unfortunatley, I could not get any information, how registrymodifications.xcu 
is handled by the office-suite.

Walther



Am Samstag, 5. Oktober 2013 schrieb M Henri Day:
> 2013/10/5 Virgil Arrington 
>
> > Urmas wrote:
> > >>"Maciej Jaros"
> > >>
> > >> It's a window manager thing, not really AOO responsibility.
> > >
> > >It is LOO responsibility to properly restore its window size. So that is
> > > a
> >
> > bug.
> >
> > I don’t get it. I’m using LO with Windows 7. Every time I open LO, it
> > opens in the same window size and position it was in when I closed it the
> > previous session. If there’s a bug in this area, it certainly doesn’t
> > show up on my computer.
> >
> > Virgil
>
> ​As one of those «really weird»​
> ​ Linux people, Virgil, I can report that my installation, i e, the Swedish
> language edition of LO (4.1.1.2, Build ID : 410m0 (Build:2))​
> ​ performs precisely as you describe above ; i e, that window size and
> position is retained from the preceding session
>
> Henri​



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[libreoffice-users] Numbering multiple equation

[fajar2]

How to numbering multiple equation in libre office math.
Current implementation numbered equation in libre Office  just give 2 x1 
table for each equation.
This is not suitable for multiline equation. If i give one table for one 
part equation, there must be many space for multiline equation.
I need multiline equation numbering  like Latex style, so each line in 
multiline equation got same vertical space with other paragraph line.

Make just 1 x 2 table for each equation make redundant of  space.

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[libreoffice-users] LO Installer Download Problems

[Michael Reich]

I didn't catch all of the recent posts about trouble downloading the LO 
installer (and the thread apparently got highjacked to another topic), 
but I posted something similar a month or so ago.  I had repeatedly 
tried downloading the Windows installer and constantly got corrupted 
installer files.   I am on high speed broadband and never had issues 
downloading other installers, including the OSX LO installer.  I had 
also tried downloading the windows installer at a local charity at which 
I volunteer, which has very slow internet. That was spectacularly 
unsuccessful also.


I finally was able to download at home using a torrent file.   It seems 
to me that there has to be something funky about the LO windows 
installers that make downloading so difficult.   I imagine casual users 
of LO aren't going to try to download the darn file repeatedly in order 
to get a good download.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Numbering multiple equation

[Brian Barker]

At 23:09 05/10/2013 +0700, Mohammad Fajar wrote:
How to numbering multiple equation in libre office math. Current 
implementation numbered equation in libre Office just give 2x1 table 
for each equation. This is not suitable for multiline equation. If i 
give one table for one part equation, there must be many space for 
multiline equation. I need multiline equation numbering like Latex 
style, so each line in multiline equation got same vertical space 
with other paragraph line. Make just 1 x 2 table for each equation 
make redundant of space.


I'm not sure exactly what your problem is here: you ask about 
numbering equations, but your main problem appears to be the vertical 
spacing of separate lines of a multi-line equation.  I don't know 
what you mean by "like Latex style" in this context: do you want one 
equation number per multi-line equation or one per line?


There are various ways you can solve this, I think:

o Within the definition of your equation (in Math), use "newline" to 
move to a new line.  You should see normal line spacing.


o Within the single table row for a numbered equation, you can create 
new lines.  If you use a line break (Shift+Enter) you should see 
normal line spacing.  If you use a paragraph break (Enter), you will 
indeed see extra spacing, but this is the default "below paragraph" 
spacing of the Table Contents paragraph style.  You can reduce this - 
perhaps to zero - at right-click | Edit Paragraph Style... | Indents 
& Spacing | Spacing | Below paragraph.


Your (single) equation numbers should be centred within the 
multi-line range.  If you want numbers for each line, you can space 
these similarly using line breaks or paragraph breaks; in this case 
you will have to insert the appropriate fields, most easily by 
copying and pasting existing ones.


I trust this helps.

Brian Barker

PS: Your system clock is wrong by fourteen hours.  You will want to 
correct this.  My guess is that you are actually in time zone +0700 
(perhaps in Indonesia?), whereas your system claims you are in -0700 
(e.g. US west coast).  Either that, or your message was time-travelling!



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Penguins: (Was Corrupt Installer Errors??)

[James Knott]

Virgil Arrington wrote:
> Still, it would be interesting to see more Tux Penguin "items" being
> sold somewhere so you could have a "Tux" on your desk or door, or
> somewhere.

I have, sitting on my computer, a "Tux" penguin, wearing a blue tux &
bow tie.  Written across the belly is "ibm.com/linux".  I picked it up
at a trade show several years ago.  I also have a raised dome "Tux"
sticker on my ThinkPad, along with a "GNU/Linux Inside!" sticker that
came with openSUSE when I bought the boxed DVD & manual.  I also have a
couple of Ontario Linux Fest coffee mugs, with Tux on them.  These
things are often available.  You just have to keep your eyes open.  Of
course, with a decent colour printer, you could make your own stickers. 
The Tux image is readily available.


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[libreoffice-users] Bold style too heavy after upgrade from 3.6 to 4.1.2.3

[Leo R. Lundgren]

Hi,

Today I upgraded from LibreOffice 3.6 to 4.1.2.3 (build ID 
40b2d7fde7e8d2d7bc5a449dc65df4d08a7dd38), on OS X 10.6.8.

In the new version, bolded text is much much heavier than it was in version 
3.6, and than what it should be (according to the font).

A screenshot is at http://grab.by/qTqM - here you can see how in the upper 
example (LO 3.6) it looks fine and like it should and always has (both in LO 
and other applications), and in the bottom example you can see how it looks now 
in LO 4.1 (not the way it should). The font in both examples is Albany AMT, 
10pt.

I can switch back and forth between the two versions and the symptom persists, 
the text is heavier in 4.1 than in 3.6.
I have tried to move ~/Library/Application Support/LibreOffice and 
~/Library/Preferences/org.libreoffice.script.LSSharedFileList.plist out of the 
way, but it doesn't change anything in the symptoms.

Been Googling quite a lot to find info about this, but without any relevant 
luck. Does anyone have an idea as to why this is happening, and what to do 
about it?

Thanks!

Regards, Leo
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Re: [libreoffice-users] LO Installer Download Problems

[Kracked_P_P---webmaster]

On 10/05/2013 02:37 PM, Michael Reich wrote:
> I didn't catch all of the recent posts about trouble downloading the
> LO installer (and the thread apparently got highjacked to another
> topic), but I posted something similar a month or so ago.  I had
> repeatedly tried downloading the Windows installer and constantly got
> corrupted installer files.   I am on high speed broadband and never
> had issues downloading other installers, including the OSX LO
> installer.  I had also tried downloading the windows installer at a
> local charity at which I volunteer, which has very slow internet. That
> was spectacularly unsuccessful also.
>
> I finally was able to download at home using a torrent file.   It
> seems to me that there has to be something funky about the LO windows
> installers that make downloading so difficult.   I imagine casual
> users of LO aren't going to try to download the darn file repeatedly
> in order to get a good download.
>
>

Try downloading it from here.

This is more of an FTP-based download than the other ways are.  See if
it works better from here.

http://downloadarchive.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/old/

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Penguins: (Was Corrupt Installer Errors??)

[Kracked_P_P---webmaster]

On 10/05/2013 04:36 PM, James Knott wrote:
> Virgil Arrington wrote:
>> Still, it would be interesting to see more Tux Penguin "items" being
>> sold somewhere so you could have a "Tux" on your desk or door, or
>> somewhere.
> I have, sitting on my computer, a "Tux" penguin, wearing a blue tux &
> bow tie.  Written across the belly is "ibm.com/linux".  I picked it up
> at a trade show several years ago.  I also have a raised dome "Tux"
> sticker on my ThinkPad, along with a "GNU/Linux Inside!" sticker that
> came with openSUSE when I bought the boxed DVD & manual.  I also have a
> couple of Ontario Linux Fest coffee mugs, with Tux on them.  These
> things are often available.  You just have to keep your eyes open.  Of
> course, with a decent colour printer, you could make your own stickers. 
> The Tux image is readily available.
>
>
I cannot get to shows, do to travel/mobility issues, but it would be
nice to find some good Tux items online from "good quality" vendors.

One day, I hope there will be artisans that will work on a good mascot
for LO.
Of course, I once placed the Writer icon in the "belly" of a Tux image.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Penguins: (Was Corrupt Installer Errors??)

[Virgil Arrington]

I wish I had your experience with Linux. All of my efforts with it on my 
Sony VAIO laptop have been met with frustration.


I recently shared my frustrations with LO on both Ubuntu and Mint (through 
"Wubi" installations) not recognizing the libhyphen hyphenator even though 
it shows in my file system. When Tom suggested that Wubi wasn't the best way 
to go, I uninstalled my Wubi installation and began to experiment with 
several live CDs to see how different distributions worked. Here's what I 
found:


openSuse Live CD: LO worked well with the hyphenator, but it wouldn't play 
Youtube videos.
LinuxMint Live CD: It played YouTube videos, but did not recognize the LO 
hyphenator. Version 15 also won't run a Bible program that I tried to 
install.

Ubuntu Live CD: Same as Mint, but it runs the Bible program.
Debian Live CD: It played YouTube Videos, it recognized the LO hyphenator, 
but on my laptop, it didn't recognize my wireless modem adaptor. I had to 
plug in an ethernet cord to access the Web.
Puppy Linux: I really like Puppy. It runs entirely in RAM, and is lightning 
quick, but is obviously very sparse, with "Gnome Office", i.e., AbiWord, 
Gnumeric, etc. rather than LO. But it runs YouTube videos just fine.


I tried both Ubuntu and Mint on a jump drive where I could actually save 
settings and install additional programs. I found the software installation 
process curious compared to Windows. With Windows, I download the latest 
file, double click on it in "Downloads" and it installs. With Linux, I can 
use Software Manager, but the versions on the GUI repositories are woefully 
out of date. For example, I use ReText, a markdown editor which is currently 
on version 4.1, but the version at the Ubuntu/Mint repositories was in the 
2.x range. To get a more recent version meant going to the command line 
"Sudo apt" this, "Sudo apt" that, etc. Hardly intuitive after nearly three 
decades of GUI computing.


I then tried to "do it right" and dual boot install the Debian system. Yes, 
I know that Debian is less user friendly than the other distros, but I liked 
its totally open source attitude and relative simplicity, even if it meant 
using the command line more. I was willing to learn.


I found a great YouTube video walking through the dual boot install, and I 
followed it to a "T". It worked great, I rebooted into Debian and all was 
good. I then rebooted into Windows and, again, all was good. I then tried to 
reboot into Debian again, and it wouldn't boot. It hung up with a message 
saying it stopped waiting for a "thermal-module.sys" or something like that. 
I then got a blank screen with a clock cursor that I could move, but nothing 
else happened. I tried rebooting several times, and the same thing happened 
each time. I then read online that a recent version of the Linux Kernel has 
been overheating some laptops; I don't know if that was my issue, but it 
scared me. I never dreamed that an OS could actually do physical harm to my 
hardware.


I realized I would have to go online to a great Linux community (and I mean 
"great" sincerely) to find out what was wrong. I'm sure that, given enough 
time, I could figure it out. But, at some point, I decided that actually 
computing was more important than trying to make it a supplemental OS 
working. And, for me, it would always be supplemental as I need some 
programs that only Windows offers.


All of my Windows versions from 1.0 (yes, I had Windows 1.0) through Windows 
7 have worked well for me, and I have never paid for a Windows OS, except as 
it was included in the price of my computers. In my experience, LO has 
always worked better on my Windows systems than any of the LO systems I have 
ever tried.


I mean no disrespect to Linux or penguins. I honestly share your passion for 
Open Source. I use FOSS programs whenever I can. As I have stated before, I 
*really* want to like Linux, but every time I have tried it, either with a 
Windows installer, Live CD or even "true" dual boot (I once had a true 
Ubuntu dual boot), I run into a some roadblock that requires a large 
investment of time to chase down. I feel that, with Linux, I'll spend more 
time maintaining my OS than actually getting work done.


So, I'll continue to use Windows until it stops working or MS comes up with 
some licensing scheme that suddenly turns me into a criminal by just using 
their program.


Virgil



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From: Kracked_P_P---webmaster

Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2013 8:32 AM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Penguins: (Was Corrupt Installer Errors??)


We are not weird, just passonate about Open Source.

Actually, to be honest, having some type of penguin stuff animal or sign
at our work desks can be a good conversation starter for Linux, Open
Source Packages, and even LO.  Instead of you coming to them, they come
to you and would not be concidered rude on your side to answer questions
when they come to you.

The

[libreoffice-users] Re: change default window size

[Urmas]

"Virgil Arrington":

I don’t get it. I’m using LO with Windows 7. Every time I open LO, it opens 
in the same window size and position it was in when I closed it the previous 
session.


Position the window. Maximize it. Exit. Start LO again. Restore the window. 
See now?




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[libreoffice-users] Re: Bold style too heavy after upgrade from 3.6 to 4.1.2.3

[mariosv]

Hi Leo,

please take a look for the option in:

Menu/Tools/Option/LibreOffice/View - Graphics options - Use Anti-Alising.

I do not see visible differences with 4.x but I seem to remember there was
significant differences in some 3.x





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Re: [libreoffice-users] Penguins: (Was Corrupt Installer Errors??)

[Kracked_P_P---webmaster]

I run Ubuntu 12.04 on my systems, including dual booting.

Mint has some network printer issues that Ubuntu did not.

I use the dual booting on a DELL and a Gateway laptop - DELL and older
slower dual core, with the Gateway a newer and faster dual core.  The
only booting problem I had was when I upgraded from Vista to Win7 Pro,
it messed the dual booting ability till I ran a Utility disc. 

I choose Ubuntu since it was the only one - 9.xx days that worked with
my old HP laptop's sound system from the Live CD.  I wish that Ubuntu
did not drop the Live CD and DVD diferences.  Now the Live disc is not
large at all, not compared to the 12.04/12.10 versions.

I choose MATE desktop to work as the GNOME 2.x did with Ubuntu 10.04's
version.  I do not like Unity at all.

For me, the LO hyphation system works fine.  I run version 4.05 for LO
and 12.04 for Ubuntu right now for my default system.

I started with DOS but did not get to use Windows till 3.x.  I saw 2.x
but never used it.  I use to install Windows 95 and 98 from floppy
drives onto a IBM PC that had a hard drive of no more than 20 to 40 MB,
let alone GB. 

But I got into Linux from the point that I could not afford to purchase
new hardware or any new software, so I had to use old hardware and find
free sources for the software.  In the end, I even when to the free OS
of Ubuntu.

As for overheating laptops, I tend to get them in the "heavy side" since
the thicker ones tend to have a bit better heat sink and fan options to
keep then laptops cooler.  Actually, for Windows try SpeedFan utility to
see how hot the various parts of you laptop is getting.  My newer one is
a lot coller than the older/slower one.  Of course that old dual core
DELL was not "powerful enough" to create movie DVDs out of MP4 and AVI
file, according to DELL's tech people, even though the single core HP
laptop, 2 years older than that, could to this without any problems. 
But as I stated, the heavier, and the thicker, the laptop is, more
lickly it would run cooler than these new super thin ones.

As for the Repositories, well some distros are way behind others for
package versions.  Debian seems to be father behind than most others
that are updated regularly.  I run Ubuntu 12.04 LTS [long term support]
and 13.10 is to come out this month.  Some of the repository packages
are not up-to-date as the 13.04 versions, but I should be using 12.04LTS
till 14.04LTS comes out, or at least on most of my Ubuntu systems. 

Of course, you do not need to stick with the repository packages, for
software like LO, since there are other newer version available for
download from the software developers.  I have only once stuck with a
repository version for LO, and that was for only a few months.  Actually
I will update my desktop to 4.0.6 when it comes out, while one of my
laptops will have 4.1.2 on one of its boots, maybe the Windows boot,
like I have 4.1.1 right now.


On 10/05/2013 06:35 PM, Virgil Arrington wrote:
> I wish I had your experience with Linux. All of my efforts with it on
> my Sony VAIO laptop have been met with frustration.
>
> I recently shared my frustrations with LO on both Ubuntu and Mint
> (through "Wubi" installations) not recognizing the libhyphen
> hyphenator even though it shows in my file system. When Tom suggested
> that Wubi wasn't the best way to go, I uninstalled my Wubi
> installation and began to experiment with several live CDs to see how
> different distributions worked. Here's what I found:
>
> openSuse Live CD: LO worked well with the hyphenator, but it wouldn't
> play Youtube videos.
> LinuxMint Live CD: It played YouTube videos, but did not recognize the
> LO hyphenator. Version 15 also won't run a Bible program that I tried
> to install.
> Ubuntu Live CD: Same as Mint, but it runs the Bible program.
> Debian Live CD: It played YouTube Videos, it recognized the LO
> hyphenator, but on my laptop, it didn't recognize my wireless modem
> adaptor. I had to plug in an ethernet cord to access the Web.
> Puppy Linux: I really like Puppy. It runs entirely in RAM, and is
> lightning quick, but is obviously very sparse, with "Gnome Office",
> i.e., AbiWord, Gnumeric, etc. rather than LO. But it runs YouTube
> videos just fine.
>
> I tried both Ubuntu and Mint on a jump drive where I could actually
> save settings and install additional programs. I found the software
> installation process curious compared to Windows. With Windows, I
> download the latest file, double click on it in "Downloads" and it
> installs. With Linux, I can use Software Manager, but the versions on
> the GUI repositories are woefully out of date. For example, I use
> ReText, a markdown editor which is currently on version 4.1, but the
> version at the Ubuntu/Mint repositories was in the 2.x range. To get a
> more recent version meant going to the command line "Sudo apt" this,
> "Sudo apt" that, etc. Hardly intuitive after nearly three decades of
> GUI computing.
>
> I then tried to "do it right" and dual

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Bold style too heavy after upgrade from 3.6 to 4.1.2.3

[Leo R. Lundgren]

Hi,

That option/setting is turned on. I'm not seeing any change regarding the 
symptoms when I turn it off and on.

I tried another thing now, namely to see if there was possibly an Albany AMT in 
the 4.1 package. I couldn't find one though (in 
/Applications/LibreOffice.app/Contents/share/fonts/truetype), but nonetheless I 
moved that folder out of the way and copied the truetype folder from 3.6 as a 
substitute. This didn't change anything though, the bold still looks the same, 
too bold.

Regards, Leo


6 okt 2013 kl. 01.01 skrev mariosv:

> Hi Leo,
> 
> please take a look for the option in:
> 
> Menu/Tools/Option/LibreOffice/View - Graphics options - Use Anti-Alising.
> 
> I do not see visible differences with 4.x but I seem to remember there was
> significant differences in some 3.x
> 
> 
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[libreoffice-users] Re: change default window size

[Virgil Arrington]

Urmas wrote:

>Position the window. Maximize it. Exit. Start LO again. Restore the window. 
>See now?

No, I don’t.

1. I positioned the window.

2. I then maximized it.

3. I then exited the program. (Why someone would position a window, maximize, 
and then exit is beyond me, but that’s beside the point.)

4. I started LO. (It came up maximized, just as it was when I exited.)

5. I clicked to restore the window. It returned to the precise state it was in 
after I applied step 1 above, and before I maximized it in step 2.

No bug. It works fine.

I’m running LO 4.0.5 on a Sony Vaio with Win7.

Virgil
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Re: [libreoffice-users] LO Installer Download Problems

[Michael Reich]

My main computer is OSX and I use Firefox or Chrome.   I think I was 
using Firefox on OSX when I had the download problems on OSX.  The 
Windows computer was also using Chrome and/or Firefox.


On 10/5/13 7:46 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Which web-browser were you using to download with?  It seems a few 
people have had problems with Internet Explorer and 1 had trouble with 
Firefox.  The Firefox one turned out to be some problem with a company 
firewall as the download worked just fine from outside.  Did you use 
IE at both locations before trying the Torrent at home?

Regards from
Tom :)




*From:* Michael Reich 
*To:* users@global.libreoffice.org
*Sent:* Saturday, 5 October 2013, 19:37
*Subject:* [libreoffice-users] LO Installer Download Problems

I didn't catch all of the recent posts about trouble downloading the LO
installer (and the thread apparently got highjacked to another topic),
but I posted something similar a month or so ago.  I had repeatedly
tried downloading the Windows installer and constantly got corrupted
installer files.  I am on high speed broadband and never had issues
downloading other installers, including the OSX LO installer.  I had
also tried downloading the windows installer at a local charity at which
I volunteer, which has very slow internet. That was spectacularly
unsuccessful also.

I finally was able to download at home using a torrent file.  It seems
to me that there has to be something funky about the LO windows
installers that make downloading so difficult.  I imagine casual users
of LO aren't going to try to download the darn file repeatedly in order
to get a good download.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Numbering multiple equation

[Andrew Douglas Pitonyak]

I use the same mechanism used to number things like tables and figures, 
but I create a new field for my equations and then I enter them manually.


On 10/06/2013 02:09 AM, fajar2 wrote:

How to numbering multiple equation in libre office math.
Current implementation numbered equation in libre Office  just give 2 
x1 table for each equation.
This is not suitable for multiline equation. If i give one table for 
one part equation, there must be many space for multiline equation.
I need multiline equation numbering  like Latex style, so each line in 
multiline equation got same vertical space with other paragraph line.

Make just 1 x 2 table for each equation make redundant of  space.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] LO Installer Download Problems

[Michael Reich]

Tom, thanks for your responses.   When I originally posted about the 
difficulty I was having downloading the installer, the user list gave me 
the impression that there couldn't be anything wrong with the downloader 
and I felt they pretty much blew off my inquiry.  If I'd been directed 
to make a bug report at that time, I would have done it.   It's been 
several weeks now and I'm not sure I recall the details at this point to 
file a bug report.   I will take a look at the bug report link you 
provided and see what information is needed.


Thanks again for your interest.

On 10/5/13 9:18 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Hmmm, that is not good news!  Sorry about that!  Is there any chance 
you could post a bug-report about it?  A lot of this guide might not 
be relevant but please just try to make the best of it

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/BugReport
tehre is another page but i think the content is identical
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport
This sometimes happens with wikis as things get moved around but it 
usually gets tidied up at some point.  I would go with the 1st of 
those links this time.

Regards from
Tom :)




*From:* Michael Reich 
*To:* Tom Davies 
*Cc:* "users@global.libreoffice.org" 
*Sent:* Sunday, 6 October 2013, 1:52
*Subject:* Re: [libreoffice-users] LO Installer Download Problems

My main computer is OSX and I use Firefox or Chrome.  I think I was
using Firefox on OSX when I had the download problems on OSX.  The
Windows computer was also using Chrome and/or Firefox.

On 10/5/13 7:46 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
> Hi :)
> Which web-browser were you using to download with? It seems a few
> people have had problems with Internet Explorer and 1 had trouble with
> Firefox.  The Firefox one turned out to be some problem with a company
> firewall as the download worked just fine from outside.  Did you use
> IE at both locations before trying the Torrent at home?
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>
>
>
> 
> *From:* Michael Reich >

> *To:* users@global.libreoffice.org 
> *Sent:* Saturday, 5 October 2013, 19:37
> *Subject:* [libreoffice-users] LO Installer Download Problems
>
> I didn't catch all of the recent posts about trouble downloading the LO
> installer (and the thread apparently got highjacked to another topic),
> but I posted something similar a month or so ago.  I had repeatedly
> tried downloading the Windows installer and constantly got corrupted
> installer files.  I am on high speed broadband and never had issues
> downloading other installers, including the OSX LO installer.  I had
> also tried downloading the windows installer at a local charity at which
> I volunteer, which has very slow internet. That was spectacularly
> unsuccessful also.
>
> I finally was able to download at home using a torrent file.  It seems
> to me that there has to be something funky about the LO windows
> installers that make downloading so difficult.  I imagine casual users
> of LO aren't going to try to download the darn file repeatedly in order
> to get a good download.
>
>
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[libreoffice-users] Re: LO on La Gendarmerie Nationale computers ?

[NoOp]

On 10/03/2013 09:14 AM, M Henri Day wrote:
> Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols
> ​ has published an interesting article, ​
> ​*French police move from Windows to Ubuntu Linux* (
> http://www.zdnet.com/french-police-move-from-windows-to-ubuntu-linux-721479/)
> ​
> ​, over at ZDNet. It deals explicitly with a migration from Windows XP to a
> «customized version of Ubuntu Linux», but if, as I presume, LO is included
> as the standard office suite, it is significant for us as well. Anyone
> familiar with the details ?...
> 
> Henri
> 

Perhaps LO is included, however the presentation is done using Ooo 3.4.1.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] LO Installer Download Problems

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
Hmmm, that is not good news!  Sorry about that!  Is there any chance you could 
post a bug-report about it?  A lot of this guide might not be relevant but 
please just try to make the best of it
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/BugReport

tehre is another page but i think the content is identical
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport

This sometimes happens with wikis as things get moved around but it usually 
gets tidied up at some point.  I would go with the 1st of those links this 
time.  
Regards from 
Tom :)  





 From: Michael Reich 
To: Tom Davies  
Cc: "users@global.libreoffice.org"  
Sent: Sunday, 6 October 2013, 1:52
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] LO Installer Download Problems
 

My main computer is OSX and I use Firefox or Chrome.   I think I was 
using Firefox on OSX when I had the download problems on OSX.  The 
Windows computer was also using Chrome and/or Firefox.

On 10/5/13 7:46 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
> Hi :)
> Which web-browser were you using to download with?  It seems a few 
> people have had problems with Internet Explorer and 1 had trouble with 
> Firefox.  The Firefox one turned out to be some problem with a company 
> firewall as the download worked just fine from outside.  Did you use 
> IE at both locations before trying the Torrent at home?
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>
>
>
> 
> *From:* Michael Reich 
> *To:* users@global.libreoffice.org
> *Sent:* Saturday, 5 October 2013, 19:37
> *Subject:* [libreoffice-users] LO Installer Download Problems
>
> I didn't catch all of the recent posts about trouble downloading the LO
> installer (and the thread apparently got highjacked to another topic),
> but I posted something similar a month or so ago.  I had repeatedly
> tried downloading the Windows installer and constantly got corrupted
> installer files.  I am on high speed broadband and never had issues
> downloading other installers, including the OSX LO installer.  I had
> also tried downloading the windows installer at a local charity at which
> I volunteer, which has very slow internet. That was spectacularly
> unsuccessful also.
>
> I finally was able to download at home using a torrent file.  It seems
> to me that there has to be something funky about the LO windows
> installers that make downloading so difficult.  I imagine casual users
> of LO aren't going to try to download the darn file repeatedly in order
> to get a good download.
>
>
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Repositories, was: Fw: [libreoffice-users] Penguins: (Was Corrupt Installer Errors??)

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
Most versions of Gnu&Linux (Ubuntu, Mint, Debian, Redhat, openSuSE) all include 
a default set of programs.  Often the same program in each one.  For example 
most of the examples have Firefox and LibreOffice by default.  

However, you don't have to stick with the defaults.  You can install other 
programs and if you feel the need then you can uninstall programs.  

By default most versions of Gnu&Linux (lets just call them distros) have a set 
of "repos" (=repositories) which are a bit like vast warehouses of programs and 
other software.  Typically it's all been tweaked or at least checked to make 
sure it kinda runs on your distro.  Again you don't have to stick with the 
defaults.  You can add other repos.  Ubuntu has all sorts of fancy names for 
different types, such as "PPA"s, but almost all distros have extra repos that 
you can add to a default install in order to have a wider choice of software 
packages.  


A typical reason might be to deal with copyright issues.  Some countries have 
very strict laws trying to prevent people from using certain things while other 
countries are more about individual people's 'right' to freedom and liberty.  
So in the USA it might be illegal to give people codecs that would allow them 
to play Hollywood movies, or even YouTube videos.  In other countries they 
might not be so restrictive.  So a lot of distros split a lot of the multimedia 
stuff into a separate repo run by a separate projects.  Those projects then 
attempt to warn users to check the laws of their own country to make sure they 
wouldn't be breaking the law by using that repo.  If those projects did get 
tied up in courts due to bogus claims it wouldn't affect the main distro.  

Luckily for me i live in one of those countries that is quite happy to let 
people watch quite a lot but not happy enough to let us watch absolutely 
everything.  So, for Ubuntu or Mint i add the "Medibuntu" repos.  For Debian i 
would add their multimedia repos and similarly for openSuSE and Redhat.  Then 
whichever distro i was using i would install VLC and mplayer to make sure i got 
all the codecs i'm ever likely to need (although i probably have to promise to 
make sure i don't use certain ones or at least hold my hand in front of my 
face, or something).  


The odd one out is Puppy.  It's a whole lot more painful to install anything in 
Puppy so it's much better to stick with the defaults for everything.  On the 
plus side it is much easier to create a fork that has slightly different 
defaults.  These are then released through their community in much the same way 
LO has pages and pages of Extensions.  Some of those forks have quite huge 
communities in their own right.  Instead of calling them "forks" they call them 
"Puplets" just to be cute (anyone got a bucket hand?).  I'm fairly certain 
there is at least 1 puplet that has LibreOffice by default but probably by now 
there are tons of them.  

Regards from 
Tom :)  




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Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Penguins: (Was Corrupt Installer Errors??)
 


I run Ubuntu 12.04 on my systems, including dual booting.

Mint has some network printer issues that Ubuntu did not.

I use the dual booting on a DELL and a Gateway laptop - DELL and older
slower dual core, with the Gateway a newer and faster dual core.  The
only booting problem I had was when I upgraded from Vista to Win7 Pro,
it messed the dual booting ability till I ran a Utility disc. 

I choose Ubuntu since it was the only one - 9.xx days that worked with
my old HP laptop's sound system from the Live CD.  I wish that Ubuntu
did not drop the Live CD and DVD diferences.  Now the Live disc is not
large at all, not compared to the 12.04/12.10 versions.

I choose MATE desktop to work as the GNOME 2.x did with Ubuntu 10.04's
version.  I do not like Unity at all.

For me, the LO hyphation system works fine.  I run version 4.05 for LO
and 12.04 for Ubuntu right now for my default system.

I started with DOS but did not get to use Windows till 3.x.  I saw 2.x
but never used it.  I use to install Windows 95 and 98 from floppy
drives onto a IBM PC that had a hard drive of no more than 20 to 40 MB,
let alone GB. 

But I got into Linux from the point that I could not afford to purchase
new hardware or any new software, so I had to use old hardware and find
free sources for the software.  In the end, I even when to the free OS
of Ubuntu.

As for overheating laptops, I tend to get them in the "heavy side" since
the thicker ones tend to have a bit better heat sink and fan options to
keep then laptops cooler.  Actually, for Windows try SpeedFan utility to
see how hot the various parts of you laptop is getting.  My newer one is
a lot coller than the older/slower one.  Of course that old dual core
DELL was not "powerful enough" to create movie DVDs out of MP4 and AVI
file, according to DELL's t

Re: [libreoffice-users] LO Installer Download Problems

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
Which web-browser were you using to download with?  It seems a few people have 
had problems with Internet Explorer and 1 had trouble with Firefox.  The 
Firefox one turned out to be some problem with a company firewall as the 
download worked just fine from outside.  Did you use IE at both locations 
before trying the Torrent at home?  
Regards from 
Tom :)  





 From: Michael Reich 
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Saturday, 5 October 2013, 19:37
Subject: [libreoffice-users] LO Installer Download Problems
 

I didn't catch all of the recent posts about trouble downloading the LO 
installer (and the thread apparently got highjacked to another topic), 
but I posted something similar a month or so ago.  I had repeatedly 
tried downloading the Windows installer and constantly got corrupted 
installer files.   I am on high speed broadband and never had issues 
downloading other installers, including the OSX LO installer.  I had 
also tried downloading the windows installer at a local charity at which 
I volunteer, which has very slow internet. That was spectacularly 
unsuccessful also.

I finally was able to download at home using a torrent file.   It seems 
to me that there has to be something funky about the LO windows 
installers that make downloading so difficult.   I imagine casual users 
of LO aren't going to try to download the darn file repeatedly in order 
to get a good download.


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boot-loaders, was: Fw: [libreoffice-users] Penguins: (Was Corrupt Installer Errors??)

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)   
Several different issues all in one thread.  

Whenever you install Windows or upgrade, such as from Xp to Win7 the Windows 
installer kindly 'fixes' the MBR to point at the Windows boot-loader (NTldr).  
Windows can't see non-Windows stuff and even has trouble with other versions of 
Windows.  So the Windows boot-loader only lets you boot into the version of 
Windows that you have just installed (or upgraded to).  

Whenever you install almost any other OS they tend to default to 'fix' your MBR 
to point to their own boot-loader (usually Grub or Lilo).  That automatically 
finds all OSes on your system, even ones on other drives or even on any 
usb-sticks that happen to be plugged in at the time.  It creates a "boot menu" 
listing all the different OSes, allowing you to choose which one to boot into.  


If your MBR has been 'fixed' then it is usually fairly trivial to re'fix' it to 
whichever boot-loader you wanted.  There are various special tools which can 
also do the job.  Personally i just use almost any LiveCd/USb of almost any 
distro to run just a couple of commands and that's it re'fixed' again.  Having 
a special tool to run the couple of commands seems a bit extravagant [shrugs]

Does 
fix = mend
always?  So in newspapers when they say a race was fixed do they mean the race 
had been broken?  So why is it said as an accusation?  Similarly with the MBR.  
It is "fixed" to ensure that only one boot-loader has any chance of winning.  
All the rest might as well not even be in the race at all.  

Regards from 
Tom :)  





- Forwarded Message -
From: Kracked_P_P---webmaster 
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Sunday, 6 October 2013, 0:10
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Penguins: (Was Corrupt Installer Errors??)
 


I run Ubuntu 12.04 on my systems, including dual booting.

Mint has some network printer issues that Ubuntu did not.

I use the dual booting on a DELL and a Gateway laptop - DELL and older
slower dual core, with the Gateway a newer and faster dual core.  The
only booting problem I had was when I upgraded from Vista to Win7 Pro,
it messed the dual booting ability till I ran a Utility disc. 

I choose Ubuntu since it was the only one - 9.xx days that worked with
my old HP laptop's sound system from the Live CD.  I wish that Ubuntu
did not drop the Live CD and DVD diferences.  Now the Live disc is not
large at all, not compared to the 12.04/12.10 versions.

I choose MATE desktop to work as the GNOME 2.x did with Ubuntu 10.04's
version.  I do not like Unity at all.

For me, the LO hyphation system works fine.  I run version 4.05 for LO
and 12.04 for Ubuntu right now for my default system.

I started with DOS but did not get to use Windows till 3.x.  I saw 2.x
but never used it.  I use to install Windows 95 and 98 from floppy
drives onto a IBM PC that had a hard drive of no more than 20 to 40 MB,
let alone GB. 

But I got into Linux from the point that I could not afford to purchase
new hardware or any new software, so I had to use old hardware and find
free sources for the software.  In the end, I even when to the free OS
of Ubuntu.

As for overheating laptops, I tend to get them in the "heavy side" since
the thicker ones tend to have a bit better heat sink and fan options to
keep then laptops cooler.  Actually, for Windows try SpeedFan utility to
see how hot the various parts of you laptop is getting.  My newer one is
a lot coller than the older/slower one.  Of course that old dual core
DELL was not "powerful enough" to create movie DVDs out of MP4 and AVI
file, according to DELL's tech people, even though the single core HP
laptop, 2 years older than that, could to this without any problems. 
But as I stated, the heavier, and the thicker, the laptop is, more
lickly it would run cooler than these new super thin ones.

As for the Repositories, well some distros are way behind others for
package versions.  Debian seems to be father behind than most others
that are updated regularly.  I run Ubuntu 12.04 LTS [long term support]
and 13.10 is to come out this month.  Some of the repository packages
are not up-to-date as the 13.04 versions, but I should be using 12.04LTS
till 14.04LTS comes out, or at least on most of my Ubuntu systems. 

Of course, you do not need to stick with the repository packages, for
software like LO, since there are other newer version available for
download from the software developers.  I have only once stuck with a
repository version for LO, and that was for only a few months.  Actually
I will update my desktop to 4.0.6 when it comes out, while one of my
laptops will have 4.1.2 on one of its boots, maybe the Windows boot,
like I have 4.1.1 right now.


On 10/05/2013 06:35 PM, Virgil Arrington wrote:
> I wish I had your experience with Linux. All of my efforts with it on
> my Sony VAIO laptop have been met with frustration.
>
> I recently shared my frustrations with LO on both Ubuntu and Mint
> (through "Wubi" installations) not recognizing the l

[libreoffice-users] Downloading Latest Windows Release

[Brian Grainger]

To Whom it May Concern,

Trying to download and install the latest Windows version of LibreOffice  
from a machine in the UK running Windows 7 and Internet Explorer.


Using the standard process for downloading from the download page the  
LibreOffice install file came as a *.MAN file. Clearly this would not  
install. When I changed the filename to *.msi it would install. My friend,  
who was actually trying to do the install before he called me out, would  
have no idea about doing this and there were no instructions to do this on  
the Installation Instructions web page.


Thinking this was a problem with Internet Explorer I tried again with the  
Opera browser on my own system. Exactly the same thing happened. Even  
though the link looked like an .msi file it actually came as a .MAN file!


I am letting you know so you can address what I consider is a serious  
fault and obstruction to getting users to switch to LibreOffice from other  
Office software.


Thank you.

Brian

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[libreoffice-users] Impress Presentation

[Rev Nick Nicholas]

Dear Libre Office

is it possible to please add jpeg and gif options in 'save as' under
Impress. The inability to do this presently forces me for some purposes
to use MS Powerpoint

also, I cannot see it, could the option to loop a presentation be
available under setting up the slide show

many thanks

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Penguins: (Was Corrupt Installer Errors??)

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)  
Nicely said Virgil! :D  You almost make it sound like you are not already in 
the club just by using LibreOffice and a bit more besides! :)

The Tux penguin is a mascot of Gnu&Linux but used a bit more widely in 
OpenSource generally too.  I was thinking of using a cuddly toy as a way of 
sounding out the IT department.  Only people "in the know" would recognise it 
and you might see a flash of a grin from just 1 individual and be able to make 
contact with that person when the Windows fanboys aren't around.  Like a super 
secret symbol used by a secret society so members can recognise each other.  
Like 2 fishes or dodgy handshakes or logos.  
Regards from 
Tom :)  




 From: Kracked_P_P---webmaster 
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Saturday, 5 October 2013, 13:32
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Penguins: (Was Corrupt Installer Errors??)
 


We are not weird, just passonate about Open Source.

Actually, to be honest, having some type of penguin stuff animal or sign
at our work desks can be a good conversation starter for Linux, Open
Source Packages, and even LO.  Instead of you coming to them, they come
to you and would not be concidered rude on your side to answer questions
when they come to you.

The Penguin Defence Squad poster was just something to give others a
good laugh. 

Well, to be perfectly honest, it is weird for us to . . . .
1 - want to pay for an operating system for our computers, if we get a
good one for free. 

2 - want to pay for an office suite when you can get a good one for free
- think LO

3 - want to deal with all of the crashes and other stability issues

4 - want to have the OS "type" that runs most of the Internet and other
"must be up 99.99% of the time" servers?

5 - want to have the freedom to choose what the desktop environment will
look like - Untiy, KDE, MATE, and a whole lot of others - instead of
what some big company boss decides you must like.

It is called Freedom

by the way
more and more industries are moving over to Linux as their primary
business systems, desktop and server, and dropping MS products, after MS
decided that everyone wanted those little tiles on your computer and
many other things that businesses really do not want.

Would you have 10+ windows open and on the screen or minimized to the
"tray"?  When I work, I tend to have many windows open at the same time,
or minimized so I can interact with all them creating my documents. 
Last Time I tried it on Windows, Vista or Win7, it was a nightmare.

I really love Ubuntu Linux over Windows 7.  I started using Linux when I
could not find a free Windows package to do what I needed after the
Windows package crashed and would not allow me to reinstall it.  I have
been using it as my default desktop since early spring of 2010.  I have
all my Windows laptops dual booting to Ubuntu as well.  There are
something I need Windows for, but I rarely use it more than a few times
a month.

Yes, we are weird, but it is a good weird.


On 10/05/2013 07:44 AM, Virgil Arrington wrote:
> These two messages 'splain a lot. You Linux dudes are really weird. ;)
>
> Virgil
>
> -Original Message- From: Kracked_P_P---webmaster
> Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 8:53 PM
> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Corrupt Installer Errors??
>
>
> I collect every non-movie-character penguin stuffed animal as I can
> find.  I think they are cute, for some odd reason.
>
> Still, it would be interesting to see more Tux Penguin "items" being
> sold somewhere so you could have a "Tux" on your desk or door, or
> somewhere.  Then if the ask why you have a pengiun there, you could tell
> them.  Actually, I found severl hundred penguin images that have the
> character dressed in super hero and other "costumes".  I even have a
> self made poster stating that my place is defended by a Penguin Defence
> Squad with about a dozen costume character penguines that are dresses in
> such a way that I would not want to have a bunch of humans dress liked
> that I had to go up against, even if a few look more Halloween costume
> than real type people would wear.
>
>
>
>
> On 10/04/2013 11:09 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
>> Hi :)
>> Maybe consider being nice to them and getting a cute cuddly penguin
>> as a present.  Also see if you can spot anyone that already has a
>> penguin on their desk as they might be more amenable to using
>> OpenSource software.
>>
>> Personally i tend to hate cute and cuddly things but even so if it
>> was a penguin that would make me smile.  Penguins are so cool,
>> especially Tux
>> Regards from
>> Tom :)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>  From: contrazz 
>> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
>> Sent: Wednesday, 2 October 2013, 4:59
>> Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Corrupt Installer Errors??
>>
>>
>> Wow!
>> Nice thread hijack, folks!
>> >From busted downloads to nefarious Wi-Fi in three easy steps!
>>
>> My company's firewall doesn't a

Re: [libreoffice-users] Impress Presentation

[Keith Bates]

Hi,

I'm not a big user of Impress, but if you go to File- Preview in Web 
Browser it produces a series of jpg and html files.


On my linux system it opened the file manager in the temporary directory 
where they are saved, so that makes it easy to save into whatever 
directory you want them to go to.


I'm sure looping a presentation is avaialble but I'm no expert. Someone 
else will have to guide you there.


Keith

On 06/10/13 04:24, Rev Nick Nicholas wrote:

Dear Libre Office

is it possible to please add jpeg and gif options in 'save as' under
Impress. The inability to do this presently forces me for some purposes
to use MS Powerpoint

also, I cannot see it, could the option to loop a presentation be
available under setting up the slide show

many thanks




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