Re: [libreoffice-users] Installing 4.1 on OpenSuse
Hi :) Just don't play Wesnoth or Glest (or Neverball) as you will find time vanishes if you do. Welcome in! :) Regards from Tom :) > > From: Regina Henschel >To: users@global.libreoffice.org >Sent: Sunday, 11 August 2013, 14:32 >Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Installing 4.1 on OpenSuse > > >Hi all, > >thank you all for your assistance. I've learned a lot about work-flow >under Linux and find it rather different from what I'm used to do under >Windows. > >I need Linux mainly for testing ODF interoperability problems. Such is >possible now. If I get further problems, I know you will help me :) > >Kind regards >Regina > > >Andrew Brown schrieb: >> Hi Regina >> >> You've received some very good advice here, I'll just add my little bit. >> If you are using KDE with openSuSE, then you can also use a feature of >> KDE built in, called "Desktop Folders", similiar to Stardock's "Fences", >> and dare I say it here, Windows 8's new Metro/Modern desktop (Hmmm! a >> little humorous dig at MS, wonder where they got their Win8 layout >> from!). Basically it is where one can group similiar apps / >> workspace icons and so forth, so for instance you can group all of the >> LO icons in one fence, utilities in another fence and so on and so >> forth. But unlike a traditional folder on a desktop, these display their >> contents, sort of in an expanded folder, making the icons visible, but >> keeping order. And this is available with KDE on any distro, whether >> native to that distro or as an add-on such as Debian based distro's. >> >> A quick history lesson on the two most common front end / GUI shells >> offered in Linux distro's, KDE (K Desktop Environment) and GNOME (GNU >> Network Object Model Environment as it was initially known as). KDE very >> popular due to similarity in layout and function to MS Windows, and >> GNOME popular with Apple O/S type users for function and layout. There >> are of course many other desktops as well. >> >> Very useful, hope you find it's of use to you. As Tom iterated in >> another post, nice to offer you back something for all your help with LO >> to us. >> >> Regards >> >> Andrew Brown >> >> On 10/08/2013 12:36 AM, Tom Davies wrote: >>> Hi :) >>> i knew someone would have a good answer for 2. 1 only changed in the >>> latest release, i think, and i only heard about that on this list >>> otherwise i'm not sure any of us would have known. Well, a couple of >>> people obviously. Good to see another person with an excellent name >>> had the answer for 2 >>> Regards from >>> Tom too :) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> From: Thomas Taylor >>>> To: users@global.libreoffice.org >>>> Sent: Friday, 9 August 2013, 19:19 >>>> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Installing 4.1 on OpenSuse >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> (2) >>>>> I want to get an icon on the desktop, which launches the start center, >>>>> not a specific module. How do I get that? >>>>> >>>>> Kind regards >>>>> Regina >>>>> >>>> Not sure about what you mean by the "start center". In the lower >>>> left corner >>>> of the screen (if you're using KDE) is a startup icon. You can start any >>>> installed program from there. LO will be under "Office > Word >>>> Processors". OR >>>> you can do like many of use and either put the icon on the desktop or >>>> in the >>>> bottom panel. >>>> >>>> Tom >>>> >>>> >> >> > > >-- >To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org >Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ >All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted > > > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Installing 4.1 on OpenSuse
Hi all, thank you all for your assistance. I've learned a lot about work-flow under Linux and find it rather different from what I'm used to do under Windows. I need Linux mainly for testing ODF interoperability problems. Such is possible now. If I get further problems, I know you will help me :) Kind regards Regina Andrew Brown schrieb: Hi Regina You've received some very good advice here, I'll just add my little bit. If you are using KDE with openSuSE, then you can also use a feature of KDE built in, called "Desktop Folders", similiar to Stardock's "Fences", and dare I say it here, Windows 8's new Metro/Modern desktop (Hmmm! a little humorous dig at MS, wonder where they got their Win8 layout from!). Basically it is where one can group similiar apps / workspace icons and so forth, so for instance you can group all of the LO icons in one fence, utilities in another fence and so on and so forth. But unlike a traditional folder on a desktop, these display their contents, sort of in an expanded folder, making the icons visible, but keeping order. And this is available with KDE on any distro, whether native to that distro or as an add-on such as Debian based distro's. A quick history lesson on the two most common front end / GUI shells offered in Linux distro's, KDE (K Desktop Environment) and GNOME (GNU Network Object Model Environment as it was initially known as). KDE very popular due to similarity in layout and function to MS Windows, and GNOME popular with Apple O/S type users for function and layout. There are of course many other desktops as well. Very useful, hope you find it's of use to you. As Tom iterated in another post, nice to offer you back something for all your help with LO to us. Regards Andrew Brown On 10/08/2013 12:36 AM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) i knew someone would have a good answer for 2. 1 only changed in the latest release, i think, and i only heard about that on this list otherwise i'm not sure any of us would have known. Well, a couple of people obviously. Good to see another person with an excellent name had the answer for 2 Regards from Tom too :) From: Thomas Taylor To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Friday, 9 August 2013, 19:19 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Installing 4.1 on OpenSuse (2) I want to get an icon on the desktop, which launches the start center, not a specific module. How do I get that? Kind regards Regina Not sure about what you mean by the "start center". In the lower left corner of the screen (if you're using KDE) is a startup icon. You can start any installed program from there. LO will be under "Office > Word Processors". OR you can do like many of use and either put the icon on the desktop or in the bottom panel. Tom -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Installing 4.1 on OpenSuse
Hi Regina You've received some very good advice here, I'll just add my little bit. If you are using KDE with openSuSE, then you can also use a feature of KDE built in, called "Desktop Folders", similiar to Stardock's "Fences", and dare I say it here, Windows 8's new Metro/Modern desktop (Hmmm! a little humorous dig at MS, wonder where they got their Win8 layout from!). Basically it is where one can group similiar apps / workspace icons and so forth, so for instance you can group all of the LO icons in one fence, utilities in another fence and so on and so forth. But unlike a traditional folder on a desktop, these display their contents, sort of in an expanded folder, making the icons visible, but keeping order. And this is available with KDE on any distro, whether native to that distro or as an add-on such as Debian based distro's. A quick history lesson on the two most common front end / GUI shells offered in Linux distro's, KDE (K Desktop Environment) and GNOME (GNU Network Object Model Environment as it was initially known as). KDE very popular due to similarity in layout and function to MS Windows, and GNOME popular with Apple O/S type users for function and layout. There are of course many other desktops as well. Very useful, hope you find it's of use to you. As Tom iterated in another post, nice to offer you back something for all your help with LO to us. Regards Andrew Brown On 10/08/2013 12:36 AM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) i knew someone would have a good answer for 2. 1 only changed in the latest release, i think, and i only heard about that on this list otherwise i'm not sure any of us would have known. Well, a couple of people obviously. Good to see another person with an excellent name had the answer for 2 Regards from Tom too :) From: Thomas Taylor To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Friday, 9 August 2013, 19:19 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Installing 4.1 on OpenSuse (2) I want to get an icon on the desktop, which launches the start center, not a specific module. How do I get that? Kind regards Regina Not sure about what you mean by the "start center". In the lower left corner of the screen (if you're using KDE) is a startup icon. You can start any installed program from there. LO will be under "Office > Word Processors". OR you can do like many of use and either put the icon on the desktop or in the bottom panel. Tom -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Installing 4.1 on OpenSuse
Hi :) i knew someone would have a good answer for 2. 1 only changed in the latest release, i think, and i only heard about that on this list otherwise i'm not sure any of us would have known. Well, a couple of people obviously. Good to see another person with an excellent name had the answer for 2 Regards from Tom too :) > > From: Thomas Taylor >To: users@global.libreoffice.org >Sent: Friday, 9 August 2013, 19:19 >Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Installing 4.1 on OpenSuse > > > > > >> (2) >> I want to get an icon on the desktop, which launches the start center, >> not a specific module. How do I get that? >> >> Kind regards >> Regina >> > >Not sure about what you mean by the "start center". In the lower left corner >of the screen (if you're using KDE) is a startup icon. You can start any >installed program from there. LO will be under "Office > Word Processors". OR >you can do like many of use and either put the icon on the desktop or in the >bottom panel. > >Tom > > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Installing 4.1 on OpenSuse
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 12:52:57 +0200 Regina Henschel wrote: > Hi all, > > I make my first steps in using Linux and have got a OpenSuse 12.3 on my > old Notebook. Now I try to install LO4.1. I have download the archive, > unpacked it and followed the instructions in its readme. I can get the > single modules from the application launcher, but there remain two problems. > (1) > The instruction mention a directory "desktop-integration" to be in the > folder RPMS, but there is no such directory. Hi Regina, When you are in the RPM directory, after installing the main LO programs, do this: "cd ./desktop-integration" and then 'rpm -Uvh *suse*.rpm". That should take care of #1. > (2) > I want to get an icon on the desktop, which launches the start center, > not a specific module. How do I get that? > > Kind regards > Regina > Not sure about what you mean by the "start center". In the lower left corner of the screen (if you're using KDE) is a startup icon. You can start any installed program from there. LO will be under "Office > Word Processors". OR you can do like many of use and either put the icon on the desktop or in the bottom panel. Tom -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Installing 4.1 on OpenSuse
Hi :D Wow!! :) You are kidding right? We get a chance to help you for once rather than the other way around?? 1. The instructions are out-of-date but only by 1 version number. Desktop integration got pulled into the main thing so you have already done that part. :) 2. For this one we kinda need to know which Desktop Environment you chose for your openSuSE. On their downloads page they give 2 within 1 click, Gnome and KDE; http://software.opensuse.org/123/en but many others are within easy reach (allegedly) Blackbox, GNOME, IceWM, KDE, LXDE, Openbox, WMaker, Xfce some of which might be better on a lower spec or older machine so it's possible you went for one of those. If you copy&paste the name of the download then we might be able to tell from that. If you didn't get advice about which might be best then this list might have led you to get the Gnome one, which is excellent. KDE used to have a reputation for being heavy and slow but i think it's reversed that in recent years. Whichever one you have it is quite likely that all you need do is find LibreOffice in the menus, right-click and choose "Add to panel" or "Add to desktop". Adding to panel means getting a link somewhere on your taskbar so it's much the same as the "Quick Launcher" in Xp, Win2k, ME, Win98 or like the "pinned to taskbar" in Win7. So it's not quite the same but does put it in easy reach all the time. Btw you can find the official openSuSE forums and stuff at http://forums.opensuse.org/forum.php i got that link from DistroWatch http://distrowatch.com/suse which lists the help forums, download sites and shed-loads more about each different distro. There's very few it doesn't cover. openSuSE is now 6th in their listings. Also a more general forum (that covers many different distros so sometimes the answers need a bit of minor interpreting (which we could do if you gave us their answers)) http://www.linuxquestions.org Welcome in btw!! Congrats on getting this far! Many regards from Tom :) > > From: Regina Henschel >To: users@global.libreoffice.org >Sent: Friday, 9 August 2013, 11:52 >Subject: [libreoffice-users] Installing 4.1 on OpenSuse > > >Hi all, > >I make my first steps in using Linux and have got a OpenSuse 12.3 on my old >Notebook. Now I try to install LO4.1. I have download the archive, unpacked it >and followed the instructions in its readme. I can get the single modules from >the application launcher, but there remain two problems. >(1) >The instruction mention a directory "desktop-integration" to be in the folder >RPMS, but there is no such directory. >(2) >I want to get an icon on the desktop, which launches the start center, not a >specific module. How do I get that? > >Kind regards >Regina > >-- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org >Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ >All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted > > > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Installing 4.1 on OpenSuse
Hi all, I make my first steps in using Linux and have got a OpenSuse 12.3 on my old Notebook. Now I try to install LO4.1. I have download the archive, unpacked it and followed the instructions in its readme. I can get the single modules from the application launcher, but there remain two problems. (1) The instruction mention a directory "desktop-integration" to be in the folder RPMS, but there is no such directory. (2) I want to get an icon on the desktop, which launches the start center, not a specific module. How do I get that? Kind regards Regina -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
