Re: [libreoffice-users] Bug 60390 - FILEOPEN: Cannot open particular document
Hi :) Doc is the older MS format and it is generally possible to open in pretty much any office program. It's rare but possible to find the odd one or 2 rare cases that don't open fairly perfectly. Those rare cases probably open slightly differently in different office programs so try AbiWord, google-docs, KOffice/Caligra or anything else. Of course MS had to move away from that format for various reasons, perhaps such as 1. security issues had been widely reported over the years 2. why would people pay to upgrade to the newer version of their office program if there current one or free ones worked? Any MS format is likely to suffer from interoperability issues because of that 2nd alleged reason. Remember Rtf and the infamous court case? DocX is the newer MS format and even MS Office has troubles with it. A document written in MSO 2007 is unlikely to look quite right in MSO 2010 or 2013 or 365 and vice-versa. You are kinda pushed into finding out what most other people are using and then buying that version. It gets worse. According to the MS installer for MSO 2010 a document created in MSO 2010 on Xp will probably look different in MSO 2010 on Win7. So, if you want to share documents or archive them to read some day in the future then the best bet for most people right now is to save in the older MS format. The one that has been known to have security problems over the years. However, Odt is being used more and more often. MSO 2010 used the older version despite everyone else using the newer one so documents didn't always look quite right. MSO 2013 has promised to use the 1.2 version that everyone else has been using for years. It's more reliable because it's not dependant on the whims of just 1 company and many companies get together to agree on it. MS is unlikely to go bankrupt any time soon. The greater danger is that they keep 'accidentally' not quite implementing formats in they way that they promise through their ISO standards agreements or documentation. It's allegedly why Rtf failed according to the court case. The other inevitable problem is that any editable document will look diffeent on different machines anyway. Different default printers, different paper-sizes, perhaps screen-resolution (unlikely) and a whole slew of other variables all affect the way text flows on a document. The standard answer is to send a Pdf along with the editable version. Btw the English phrase I'm afraid should only be used sparingly and never by a fearless user of OpenSource. Stay smug and aloof. Let people continue to use whatever cr#$£*p they are determined to use but just sometimes let them know when their documents are likely to or already have failed. If you can install LibreOffice without them being unhappy and without it potentially getting you in trouble then do. Once the programs that can handle ODF are out there then it's easier to get people to use the format. Regards from Tom :) From: C. H. D. webofht-libreoffice...@yahoo.com.hk To: LibreOffice User Support Mailing List users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 12 February 2013, 7:27 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Bug 60390 - FILEOPEN: Cannot open particular document Hello! Yes, my Microsoft Office is legal. (Just happened that many other people use it.) I think it is an interoperability issue. I searched the Internet and looked for documents randomly to test if LibreOffice can open them. This is the authentic test. I cannot contact the author since the document was downloaded randomly. If Microsoft Office opens the .doc files correctly, LibreOffice should also open them correctly. If Microsoft went bankrupt, what office suite would be able to handle thousands of .doc files? Then, the data in the .doc files would be lost if no other office suite was able to open them, I am afraid. Not many people like converting .doc files into .odt files, I am afraid. Regards, C. H. D. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ 寄件人︰ e-letter inp...@gmail.com 收件人︰ C. H. D. webofht-libreoffice...@yahoo.com.hk 副本(CC)︰ LibreOffice User Support Mailing List users@global.libreoffice.org 傳送日期︰ 2013年02月12日 (週二) 2:37 PM 主題︰ Re: [libreoffice-users] Bug 60390 - FILEOPEN: Cannot open particular document On 11/02/2013, C. H. D. webofht-libreoffice...@yahoo.com.hk wrote: Hello! I cannot open a particular file in LibreOffice, but I can open it in Microsoft Office. Good for you; your copy of m$ is legal? I would appreciate it if you take a look. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60390 Not a bug, unless the original document was created in odf. Did you contact the author and explain that the document cannot be opened in LO? What did the author say? -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help
Re: [libreoffice-users] Bug 60390 - FILEOPEN: Cannot open particular document
On 12/02/2013, C. H. D. webofht-libreoffice...@yahoo.com.hk wrote: Hello! Yes, my Microsoft Office is legal. (Just happened that many other people use it.) I think it is an interoperability issue. If you are very concerned about interoperability, you should be contacting m$ and ask them why they cannot open odf documents created using LO. Have you done this? I searched the Internet and looked for documents randomly to test if LibreOffice can open them. This is the authentic test. No, a more authentic test is to search for odf documents and compare of LO and m$ opens these types of documents. If Microsoft Office opens the .doc files correctly, LibreOffice should also open them correctly. No, LO is not a m$-clone. If LO opens the odt document correctly, m$ should also. Have you tested this? If Microsoft went bankrupt, what office suite would be able to handle thousands of .doc files? Unlikely, but that is the fault entirely of the user that creates the document in the m$ file format!!! If LO, or any other odf-compliant software disappears, you can find another. That is why you should be testing interoperability with odf and not m$ formats. Then, the data in the .doc files would be lost if no other office suite was able to open them, I am afraid. I hope that happens (but a small possibility). Not many people like converting .doc files into .odt files, I am afraid. That is their choice. Start creating documents in odf! -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Bug 60390 - FILEOPEN: Cannot open particular document
On 12/02/2013 at 10:53, e-letter inp...@gmail.com wrote: If LO, or any other odf-compliant software disappears, you can find another. Yeah, especially since LO default saving format incorporates number of non- standard extensions that other ODF-compliant software will just ignore. Don't get me wrong - I appreciate many of these extensions, as they give me ability to use great features not covered by ODF spec. But I am also worried by the fact, that over thirty years after introducing first word processor software, we are still at a stage where documents can be freely exchanged only by users of the same software in the same version. -- Best regards Mirosław Zalewski -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Bug 60390 - FILEOPEN: Cannot open particular document
in situations like this, independently of the work to be done to make libreoffice capable of opening those files you can use a version of microsoft office which supports odf to convert the file to odt. this can be an effective workaround I attach you the converted file (using microsoft office 2013). you can use these software to do the conversion from a shell: http://code.officeshots.org/trac/officeshots/browser/trunk/OfficeConvert I attach also a bat file which can help to automatize the conversion process best regards Al 12/02/2013 13:29, En/na C. H. D. ha escrit: Hello! Do I support LibreOffice? Yes, I do. Let me show some positive numbers: When I downloaded 400 .doc files, I opened 399 files in LibreOffice. Only 1 could not be opened. All 400 files were smaller than or equal to 692.5 KB. I started the testing from the smallest file to the largest file. It happened to be that I could not open that one file which was 692.5 KB. I am not a Maths expert. 399/400 = 99.75% Congratulations! This is excellent! Well done. To make a rough conclusion, I claim in a reasonable way that LibreOffice can open 99.75% of the .doc files I may come across in future if these files are smaller than 700KB. I do not know if these numbers are scientific enough. However, such information definitely helps me to say that LibreOffice 4 is really good! Microsoft Office is not my area of interest, by the way. It is just that someone uses it. There were cases when Word could not open .doc files in the past. These cases are not my area of interest. Regards, C. H. D. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ 寄件人︰ e-letterinp...@gmail.com 收件人︰ C. H. D.webofht-libreoffice...@yahoo.com.hk 副本(CC)︰ LibreOffice User Support Mailing Listusers@global.libreoffice.org 傳送日期︰ 2013年02月12日 (週二) 5:53 PM 主題︰ Re: [libreoffice-users] Bug 60390 - FILEOPEN: Cannot open particular document On 12/02/2013, C. H. D.webofht-libreoffice...@yahoo.com.hk wrote: Hello! Yes, my Microsoft Office is legal. (Just happened that many other people use it.) I think it is an interoperability issue. If you are very concerned about interoperability, you should be contacting m$ and ask them why they cannot open odf documents created using LO. Have you done this? I searched the Internet and looked for documents randomly to test if LibreOffice can open them. This is the authentic test. No, a more authentic test is to search for odf documents and compare of LO and m$ opens these types of documents. If Microsoft Office opens the .doc files correctly, LibreOffice should also open them correctly. No, LO is not a m$-clone. If LO opens the odt document correctly, m$ should also. Have you tested this? If Microsoft went bankrupt, what office suite would be able to handle thousands of .doc files? Unlikely, but that is the fault entirely of the user that creates the document in the m$ file format!!! If LO, or any other odf-compliant software disappears, you can find another. That is why you should be testing interoperability with odf and not m$ formats. Then, the data in the .doc files would be lost if no other office suite was able to open them, I am afraid. I hope that happens (but a small possibility). Not many people like converting .doc files into .odt files, I am afraid. That is their choice. Start creating documents in odf! -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Bug 60390 - FILEOPEN: Cannot open particular document
this mailing like doesn't like attachments, you can download it from there: convertidor_odf.7z (320 KB) https://mega.co.nz/#!o8IXHa7Q!JgsZ0xKsAagxtkHxy-c2lnacVUdN6zPJRcCGyJ_oRbo best regards Al 12/02/2013 13:58, En/na pasqual milvaques pons ha escrit: in situations like this, independently of the work to be done to make libreoffice capable of opening those files you can use a version of microsoft office which supports odf to convert the file to odt. this can be an effective workaround I attach you the converted file (using microsoft office 2013). you can use these software to do the conversion from a shell: http://code.officeshots.org/trac/officeshots/browser/trunk/OfficeConvert I attach also a bat file which can help to automatize the conversion process best regards Al 12/02/2013 13:29, En/na C. H. D. ha escrit: Hello! Do I support LibreOffice? Yes, I do. Let me show some positive numbers: When I downloaded 400 .doc files, I opened 399 files in LibreOffice. Only 1 could not be opened. All 400 files were smaller than or equal to 692.5 KB. I started the testing from the smallest file to the largest file. It happened to be that I could not open that one file which was 692.5 KB. I am not a Maths expert. 399/400 = 99.75% Congratulations! This is excellent! Well done. To make a rough conclusion, I claim in a reasonable way that LibreOffice can open 99.75% of the .doc files I may come across in future if these files are smaller than 700KB. I do not know if these numbers are scientific enough. However, such information definitely helps me to say that LibreOffice 4 is really good! Microsoft Office is not my area of interest, by the way. It is just that someone uses it. There were cases when Word could not open .doc files in the past. These cases are not my area of interest. Regards, C. H. D. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ 寄件人︰ e-letterinp...@gmail.com 收件人︰ C. H. D.webofht-libreoffice...@yahoo.com.hk 副本(CC)︰ LibreOffice User Support Mailing Listusers@global.libreoffice.org 傳送日期︰ 2013年02月12日 (週二) 5:53 PM 主題︰ Re: [libreoffice-users] Bug 60390 - FILEOPEN: Cannot open particular document On 12/02/2013, C. H. D.webofht-libreoffice...@yahoo.com.hk wrote: Hello! Yes, my Microsoft Office is legal. (Just happened that many other people use it.) I think it is an interoperability issue. If you are very concerned about interoperability, you should be contacting m$ and ask them why they cannot open odf documents created using LO. Have you done this? I searched the Internet and looked for documents randomly to test if LibreOffice can open them. This is the authentic test. No, a more authentic test is to search for odf documents and compare of LO and m$ opens these types of documents. If Microsoft Office opens the .doc files correctly, LibreOffice should also open them correctly. No, LO is not a m$-clone. If LO opens the odt document correctly, m$ should also. Have you tested this? If Microsoft went bankrupt, what office suite would be able to handle thousands of .doc files? Unlikely, but that is the fault entirely of the user that creates the document in the m$ file format!!! If LO, or any other odf-compliant software disappears, you can find another. That is why you should be testing interoperability with odf and not m$ formats. Then, the data in the .doc files would be lost if no other office suite was able to open them, I am afraid. I hope that happens (but a small possibility). Not many people like converting .doc files into .odt files, I am afraid. That is their choice. Start creating documents in odf! -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Bug 60390 - FILEOPEN: Cannot open particular document
Thanks for the idea. I would say that the development team responded very quickly. When I submitted a bug regarding not being able to open an OpenDocument file, the development team figured out the issue and made a patch in three days! Amazingly fast! I test that OpenDocument file and it will open in LibreOffice 4 (current version). Great! I think the development team will work it out soon. LibreOffice is good because the development team responds quickly. Regards, C. H. D. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ 寄件人︰ pasqual milvaques pons milvaques_...@gva.es 收件人︰ pasqual milvaques pons milvaques_...@gva.es 副本(CC)︰ LibreOffice User Support Mailing List users@global.libreoffice.org 傳送日期︰ 2013年02月12日 (週二) 9:14 PM 主題︰ Re: [libreoffice-users] Bug 60390 - FILEOPEN: Cannot open particular document this mailing like doesn't like attachments, you can download it from there: convertidor_odf.7z (320 KB) https://mega.co.nz/#!o8IXHa7Q!JgsZ0xKsAagxtkHxy-c2lnacVUdN6zPJRcCGyJ_oRbo best regards Al 12/02/2013 13:58, En/na pasqual milvaques pons ha escrit: in situations like this, independently of the work to be done to make libreoffice capable of opening those files you can use a version of microsoft office which supports odf to convert the file to odt. this can be an effective workaround I attach you the converted file (using microsoft office 2013). you can use these software to do the conversion from a shell: http://code.officeshots.org/trac/officeshots/browser/trunk/OfficeConvert I attach also a bat file which can help to automatize the conversion process best regards Al 12/02/2013 13:29, En/na C. H. D. ha escrit: Hello! Do I support LibreOffice? Yes, I do. Let me show some positive numbers: When I downloaded 400 .doc files, I opened 399 files in LibreOffice. Only 1 could not be opened. All 400 files were smaller than or equal to 692.5 KB. I started the testing from the smallest file to the largest file. It happened to be that I could not open that one file which was 692.5 KB. I am not a Maths expert. 399/400 = 99.75% Congratulations! This is excellent! Well done. To make a rough conclusion, I claim in a reasonable way that LibreOffice can open 99.75% of the .doc files I may come across in future if these files are smaller than 700KB. I do not know if these numbers are scientific enough. However, such information definitely helps me to say that LibreOffice 4 is really good! Microsoft Office is not my area of interest, by the way. It is just that someone uses it. There were cases when Word could not open .doc files in the past. These cases are not my area of interest. Regards, C. H. D. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ 寄件人︰ e-letterinp...@gmail.com 收件人︰ C. H. D.webofht-libreoffice...@yahoo.com.hk 副本(CC)︰ LibreOffice User Support Mailing Listusers@global.libreoffice.org 傳送日期︰ 2013年02月12日 (週二) 5:53 PM 主題︰ Re: [libreoffice-users] Bug 60390 - FILEOPEN: Cannot open particular document On 12/02/2013, C. H. D.webofht-libreoffice...@yahoo.com.hk wrote: Hello! Yes, my Microsoft Office is legal. (Just happened that many other people use it.) I think it is an interoperability issue. If you are very concerned about interoperability, you should be contacting m$ and ask them why they cannot open odf documents created using LO. Have you done this? I searched the Internet and looked for documents randomly to test if LibreOffice can open them. This is the authentic test. No, a more authentic test is to search for odf documents and compare of LO and m$ opens these types of documents. If Microsoft Office opens the .doc files correctly, LibreOffice should also open them correctly. No, LO is not a m$-clone. If LO opens the odt document correctly, m$ should also. Have you tested this? If Microsoft went bankrupt, what office suite would be able to handle thousands of .doc files? Unlikely, but that is the fault entirely of the user that creates the document in the m$ file format!!! If LO, or any other odf-compliant software disappears, you can find another. That is why you should be testing interoperability with odf and not m$ formats. Then, the data in the .doc files would be lost if no other office suite was able to open them, I am afraid. I hope that happens (but a small possibility). Not many people like converting .doc files into .odt files, I am afraid. That is their choice. Start creating documents in odf! -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived
Re: [libreoffice-users] Bug 60390 - FILEOPEN: Cannot open particular document
On 02/12/2013 04:53 AM, e-letter wrote: On 12/02/2013, C. H. D. webofht-libreoffice...@yahoo.com.hk wrote: Hello! Yes, my Microsoft Office is legal. (Just happened that many other people use it.) I think it is an interoperability issue. If you are very concerned about interoperability, you should be contacting m$ and ask them why they cannot open odf documents created using LO. Have you done this? I searched the Internet and looked for documents randomly to test if LibreOffice can open them. This is the authentic test. No, a more authentic test is to search for odf documents and compare of LO and m$ opens these types of documents. If Microsoft Office opens the .doc files correctly, LibreOffice should also open them correctly. No, LO is not a m$-clone. If LO opens the odt document correctly, m$ should also. Have you tested this? If Microsoft went bankrupt, what office suite would be able to handle thousands of .doc files? Unlikely, but that is the fault entirely of the user that creates the document in the m$ file format!!! If LO, or any other odf-compliant software disappears, you can find another. That is why you should be testing interoperability with odf and not m$ formats. Then, the data in the .doc files would be lost if no other office suite was able to open them, I am afraid. I hope that happens (but a small possibility). Not many people like converting .doc files into .odt files, I am afraid. That is their choice. Start creating documents in odf! If you bother to read the comments, the document is from a website and contacting the author will be difficult. The problem is likely that the author did some strange formatting that confuses many programs that normally open *.doc format files. The real issue is why a *.doc file instead of a *.pdf file on the web. I would follow Tom's suggestion and try several other options and see if one them works. Also, if the document is opened, even if the it looks wacky, try saving as odt or html if odt does not work. -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Bug 60390 - FILEOPEN: Cannot open particular document
Hi :) Brilliant! :) Nicely done! It did bother me a little that the macros didn't even work in MS Office. At my workplace we only have 1 set of documents that 'need' macros and they are all in the finance department. They were written for MSO 2010 and don't work in MSO 2007 and i'm guessing they wont work in MSO 2013 either. If the person writing the macros had not told us which version they were written for then we would have assumed they just don't work. As it is we had to buy MSO 2010 just a few months before 2013 was released. We only really needed it for 1 machine but ended up getting it for almost all machines. CHD is the chap that produced quite a few How-To videos and even managed to get them listed on the Documentation wiki. At the moment that is on https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Other_Documentation_and_Resources but i'm just creating a separate page for videos https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications/Videos and created a redirect for people that forget the Publications bit (ie such as myself in a few months). Now that i see he was doing research and has collected stats about it his whole mission there suddenly becomes more obvious and good to know about. It wasn't a paid-for bit of research with pre-planning and defined methodology and is not yet written up as a research paper and published anywhere except on this list so it's good to get the early results before it's all hidden behind fancy language! It's actually a little higher than i expected which is also good news :) 99.75% of documents being compatible is quite astounding! Thanks and regards from Tom :) From: pasqual milvaques pons milvaques_...@gva.es To: pasqual milvaques pons milvaques_...@gva.es Cc: LibreOffice User Support Mailing List users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 12 February 2013, 13:14 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Bug 60390 - FILEOPEN: Cannot open particular document this mailing like doesn't like attachments, you can download it from there: convertidor_odf.7z (320 KB) https://mega.co.nz/#!o8IXHa7Q!JgsZ0xKsAagxtkHxy-c2lnacVUdN6zPJRcCGyJ_oRbo best regards Al 12/02/2013 13:58, En/na pasqual milvaques pons ha escrit: in situations like this, independently of the work to be done to make libreoffice capable of opening those files you can use a version of microsoft office which supports odf to convert the file to odt. this can be an effective workaround I attach you the converted file (using microsoft office 2013). you can use these software to do the conversion from a shell: http://code.officeshots.org/trac/officeshots/browser/trunk/OfficeConvert I attach also a bat file which can help to automatize the conversion process best regards Al 12/02/2013 13:29, En/na C. H. D. ha escrit: Hello! Do I support LibreOffice? Yes, I do. Let me show some positive numbers: When I downloaded 400 .doc files, I opened 399 files in LibreOffice. Only 1 could not be opened. All 400 files were smaller than or equal to 692.5 KB. I started the testing from the smallest file to the largest file. It happened to be that I could not open that one file which was 692.5 KB. I am not a Maths expert. 399/400 = 99.75% Congratulations! This is excellent! Well done. To make a rough conclusion, I claim in a reasonable way that LibreOffice can open 99.75% of the .doc files I may come across in future if these files are smaller than 700KB. I do not know if these numbers are scientific enough. However, such information definitely helps me to say that LibreOffice 4 is really good! Microsoft Office is not my area of interest, by the way. It is just that someone uses it. There were cases when Word could not open .doc files in the past. These cases are not my area of interest. Regards, C. H. D. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ 寄件人︰ e-letterinp...@gmail.com 收件人︰ C. H. D.webofht-libreoffice...@yahoo.com.hk 副本(CC)︰ LibreOffice User Support Mailing Listusers@global.libreoffice.org 傳送日期︰ 2013年02月12日 (週二) 5:53 PM 主題︰ Re: [libreoffice-users] Bug 60390 - FILEOPEN: Cannot open particular document On 12/02/2013, C. H. D.webofht-libreoffice...@yahoo.com.hk wrote: Hello! Yes, my Microsoft Office is legal. (Just happened that many other people use it.) I think it is an interoperability issue. If you are very concerned about interoperability, you should be contacting m$ and ask them why they cannot open odf documents created using LO. Have you done this? I searched the Internet and looked for documents randomly to test if LibreOffice can open them. This is the authentic test. No, a more authentic test is to search for odf documents and compare of LO and m$ opens these types of documents. If Microsoft Office opens the .doc files correctly, LibreOffice should also
Re: [libreoffice-users] Bug 60390 - FILEOPEN: Cannot open particular document
Hi :) The situation is improving now that people are moving to ODF more and more. Relying on a single companies whims has of course left a lingering problem but ODF is defined by a large group of companies most of which produce software that is designed to read the formats. So, if you stick with MS formats then you are still relying on a situation that hasn't changed in 30years. If you have moved to ODF then things are a lot more stable and reliable because there are a lot of products that can read ODF sucessfully. Regards from Tom :) From: Mirosław Zalewski mini...@poczta.onet.pl To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 12 February 2013, 12:49 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Bug 60390 - FILEOPEN: Cannot open particular document On 12/02/2013 at 10:53, e-letter inp...@gmail.com wrote: If LO, or any other odf-compliant software disappears, you can find another. Yeah, especially since LO default saving format incorporates number of non- standard extensions that other ODF-compliant software will just ignore. Don't get me wrong - I appreciate many of these extensions, as they give me ability to use great features not covered by ODF spec. But I am also worried by the fact, that over thirty years after introducing first word processor software, we are still at a stage where documents can be freely exchanged only by users of the same software in the same version. -- Best regards Mirosław Zalewski -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Bug 60390 - FILEOPEN: Cannot open particular document
On 11/02/2013, C. H. D. webofht-libreoffice...@yahoo.com.hk wrote: Hello! I cannot open a particular file in LibreOffice, but I can open it in Microsoft Office. Good for you; your copy of m$ is legal? I would appreciate it if you take a look. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60390 Not a bug, unless the original document was created in odf. Did you contact the author and explain that the document cannot be opened in LO? What did the author say? -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Bug 60390 - FILEOPEN: Cannot open particular document
Hello! Yes, my Microsoft Office is legal. (Just happened that many other people use it.) I think it is an interoperability issue. I searched the Internet and looked for documents randomly to test if LibreOffice can open them. This is the authentic test. I cannot contact the author since the document was downloaded randomly. If Microsoft Office opens the .doc files correctly, LibreOffice should also open them correctly. If Microsoft went bankrupt, what office suite would be able to handle thousands of .doc files? Then, the data in the .doc files would be lost if no other office suite was able to open them, I am afraid. Not many people like converting .doc files into .odt files, I am afraid. Regards, C. H. D. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ 寄件人︰ e-letter inp...@gmail.com 收件人︰ C. H. D. webofht-libreoffice...@yahoo.com.hk 副本(CC)︰ LibreOffice User Support Mailing List users@global.libreoffice.org 傳送日期︰ 2013年02月12日 (週二) 2:37 PM 主題︰ Re: [libreoffice-users] Bug 60390 - FILEOPEN: Cannot open particular document On 11/02/2013, C. H. D. webofht-libreoffice...@yahoo.com.hk wrote: Hello! I cannot open a particular file in LibreOffice, but I can open it in Microsoft Office. Good for you; your copy of m$ is legal? I would appreciate it if you take a look. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60390 Not a bug, unless the original document was created in odf. Did you contact the author and explain that the document cannot be opened in LO? What did the author say? -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Bug 60390 - FILEOPEN: Cannot open particular document
On 02/10/2013 10:35 PM, C. H. D. wrote: Hello! I cannot open a particular file in LibreOffice, but I can open it in Microsoft Office. I would appreciate it if you take a look. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60390 Regards, C. H. D. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I confirm it will not open in LO 4.0.0.3. I was able to open the file using Calligra using Linux Mint 13. -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
RE: [libreoffice-users] Bug 60390 - FILEOPEN: Cannot open particular document
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60390 Comment # 2 on bug 60390 from V Stuart Foote Also, confirm that ref file will not open in Windows build of LibreOffice 4.0.0 rc3. But on same system it will open in Office 2007 with no issue. And interestingly will also open in an Apache OpenOffice Dev 4.0 build (r1441343). So something in this .DOC MS Office 97-2003 formated file is now being mishandled by LibO. Changning to NEEDINFO as devs are going to need log details of what is causing the hang up. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
