Re: [us...@httpd] Fwd: Home Web Server

2009-05-14 Thread J. Greenlees
Justin Zhang wrote:
 Is my cofiguration right?
 
 Listen 192.168.0.100:80
 ServerName 24.78.136.243:80
 

Listen *:8080
ServerName 24.78.136.243

Though the default for the ServerName directive, of not specifying or
using it, works better for an apache installation with a dhcp driven ip
address. Shaw uses DHCP for ip addresses unless you buy a business
account, which really is an expensive, limited account.

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RE: [us...@httpd] Fwd: Home Web Server

2009-05-14 Thread Richard Peacock
Hello



It's still not working:



The server at 24.78.136.243 is taking too long to respond.



That's from http://24.78.136.243:8080/

If it works from your internal network (ie http://192.168.0.100:8080 
http://192.168.0.100:8080/ ) then it's a port-forwarding or firewall issue. 
Perhaps check the local webserver's firewall logs or temporarily disable it?

Good luck!







From: Justin Zhang [mailto:justinzhang1...@gmail.com]
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To: users@httpd.apache.org; a...@ice-sa.com
Subject: Re: [us...@httpd] Fwd: Home Web Server



Current router configuration

Virtual Server HTTP

192.168.0.100

TCP 8080/8080

Always

Private port and public port are all 8080. Before it is 80/80 for port 80





On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 11:46 AM, André Warnier a...@ice-sa.com wrote:

Justin Zhang wrote:

http://192.168.0.100:8080 http://192.168.0.100:8080/  is working for me now. 
Could you help try my
external IP

*24.78.136.243*
Thanks,



Doesn't work : connection refused.

I believe now is time for a pause to think.

When we connect from outside to the address 24.78.136.243, we in fact connect 
to your *router*.
Your router is not your webserver.
Your router should know, that when it receives a connection to its port 80 (or 
8080), it should forward this connection to your Apache server, at the IP 
address 192.168.0.100.
Is there something in your router configuration that tells it to do that ?




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Re: [us...@httpd] Fwd: Home Web Server

2009-05-14 Thread Justin Zhang
Now only local address is working http://192.168.0.100:8080/

Besides myIPaddress, is there any other way to check my external IP address.
Since I got different IPs with and without Phone adapter. 24.78.136.243  is
with phone adapter, and the other one is 24.78.147.173. I donot know which
one is right or both are not right.


Thanks, Justin


On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 8:45 AM, Richard Peacock 
richard.peac...@minorplanet.com wrote:

   Hello



 It’s still not working:



 “The server at 24.78.136.243 is taking too long to respond.”



 That’s from http://24.78.136.243:8080/

 If it works from your internal network (ie http://192.168.0.100:8080) then
 it’s a port-forwarding or firewall issue. Perhaps check the local
 webserver’s firewall logs or temporarily disable it?

 Good luck!




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 *Subject:* Re: [us...@httpd] Fwd: Home Web Server



 Current router configuration

 Virtual Server HTTP

 192.168.0.100

 TCP 8080/8080

 Always

 Private port and public port are all 8080. Before it is 80/80 for port 80





 On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 11:46 AM, André Warnier a...@ice-sa.com wrote:

 Justin Zhang wrote:

 http://192.168.0.100:8080 is working for me now. Could you help try my
 external IP

 *24.78.136.243*
 Thanks,



 Doesn't work : connection refused.

 I believe now is time for a pause to think.

 When we connect from outside to the address 24.78.136.243, we in fact
 connect to your *router*.
 Your router is not your webserver.
 Your router should know, that when it receives a connection to its port 80
 (or 8080), it should forward this connection to your Apache server, at the
 IP address 192.168.0.100.
 Is there something in your router configuration that tells it to do that ?




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Re: [us...@httpd] Fwd: Home Web Server

2009-05-14 Thread André Warnier

Justin Zhang wrote:

Now only local address is working http://192.168.0.100:8080/

Besides myIPaddress, is there any other way to check my external IP address.
Since I got different IPs with and without Phone adapter. 24.78.136.243  is
with phone adapter, and the other one is 24.78.147.173. I donot know which
one is right or both are not right.

Well, we do not know either.  To me that setup is a bit mysterious, but 
that may be because I'm in Europe as opposed to Canada.

Can you try to draw some kind of picture of what is connected to what ?


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RE: [us...@httpd] Fwd: Home Web Server

2009-05-14 Thread Richard Peacock
www.whatismyipaddress.com

Your router should also show the external/public IP but on my Smoothwall it 
gives me a different one to what it really is lol so use that website above!

Rich



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Subject: Re: [us...@httpd] Fwd: Home Web Server

Justin Zhang wrote:
 Now only local address is working http://192.168.0.100:8080/

 Besides myIPaddress, is there any other way to check my external IP address.
 Since I got different IPs with and without Phone adapter. 24.78.136.243  is
 with phone adapter, and the other one is 24.78.147.173. I donot know which
 one is right or both are not right.

Well, we do not know either.  To me that setup is a bit mysterious, but
that may be because I'm in Europe as opposed to Canada.
Can you try to draw some kind of picture of what is connected to what ?


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Re: [us...@httpd] Fwd: Home Web Server

2009-05-14 Thread Justin Zhang
You can see the diagram in the link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Voip-typical.gif
Thanks

On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 8:57 AM, André Warnier a...@ice-sa.com wrote:

 Justin Zhang wrote:

 Now only local address is working http://192.168.0.100:8080/

 Besides myIPaddress, is there any other way to check my external IP
 address.
 Since I got different IPs with and without Phone adapter. 24.78.136.243
  is
 with phone adapter, and the other one is 24.78.147.173. I donot know which
 one is right or both are not right.

 Well, we do not know either.  To me that setup is a bit mysterious, but
 that may be because I'm in Europe as opposed to Canada.
 Can you try to draw some kind of picture of what is connected to what ?



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Re: [us...@httpd] Fwd: Home Web Server

2009-05-14 Thread André Warnier

Ok, seen.

Is that *exactly* your setup ?
(if not, tell us what is different compared to the picture)

Also, when you talk below of with and without Phone adapter, what do 
you mean exactly ? are you switching the cables around, turning 
something on or off, or what ?


Also, when you talk about router, which box do you mean ?




Justin Zhang wrote:

You can see the diagram in the link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Voip-typical.gif
Thanks

On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 8:57 AM, André Warnier a...@ice-sa.com wrote:


Justin Zhang wrote:


Now only local address is working http://192.168.0.100:8080/

Besides myIPaddress, is there any other way to check my external IP
address.
Since I got different IPs with and without Phone adapter. 24.78.136.243
 is
with phone adapter, and the other one is 24.78.147.173. I donot know which
one is right or both are not right.

Well, we do not know either.  To me that setup is a bit mysterious, but

that may be because I'm in Europe as opposed to Canada.
Can you try to draw some kind of picture of what is connected to what ?



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Re: [us...@httpd] Fwd: Home Web Server

2009-05-14 Thread Justin Zhang
My setup is exactly the same as the link picture.

I try connect routher via phone adapter and bypass phone adapter (direcly to
DSL modem, i.e. taking phone adapter off) I got two different IPs from
myIPaddress.com. My routher is D-Link DI-524 wireless router

Thanks

On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 9:24 AM, André Warnier a...@ice-sa.com wrote:

 Ok, seen.

 Is that *exactly* your setup ?
 (if not, tell us what is different compared to the picture)

 Also, when you talk below of with and without Phone adapter, what do you
 mean exactly ? are you switching the cables around, turning something on or
 off, or what ?

 Also, when you talk about router, which box do you mean ?





 Justin Zhang wrote:

 You can see the diagram in the link
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Voip-typical.gif
 Thanks

 On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 8:57 AM, André Warnier a...@ice-sa.com wrote:

 Justin Zhang wrote:

 Now only local address is working http://192.168.0.100:8080/

 Besides myIPaddress, is there any other way to check my external IP
 address.
 Since I got different IPs with and without Phone adapter. 24.78.136.243
  is
 with phone adapter, and the other one is 24.78.147.173. I donot know
 which
 one is right or both are not right.

 Well, we do not know either.  To me that setup is a bit mysterious, but

 that may be because I'm in Europe as opposed to Canada.
 Can you try to draw some kind of picture of what is connected to what ?



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Re: [us...@httpd] Fwd: Home Web Server

2009-05-14 Thread André Warnier

Justin Zhang wrote:

My setup is exactly the same as the link picture.

I try connect routher via phone adapter and bypass phone adapter (direcly to
DSL modem, i.e. taking phone adapter off) I got two different IPs from
myIPaddress.com. My routher is D-Link DI-524 wireless router



Allright.
I refer to this page :
http://support.dlink.com/emulators/di524/st_devic.html

- Connect your router directly to the DSL modem, and disconnect the 
Phone adapter.


- in your router configuration :
  - in the Firewall part,
   - click enabled
   - Name : HTTP server
   - Source/Interface : WAN
   - Source/IP Ranges start/stop : empty (*)
   - Destination/Interface : LAN
   - Destination/IP Range start/stop : both 192.168.0.100
   - Destination/Protocol : TCP
   - Destination/Port Range : 8080 and 8080
  then click Apply.

In your router config, go to Home, then Status, then look at WAN / IP 
address, and tell us that address.


(*) we try first that, and if it does not work, we will try something else.





Thanks

On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 9:24 AM, André Warnier a...@ice-sa.com wrote:


Ok, seen.

Is that *exactly* your setup ?
(if not, tell us what is different compared to the picture)

Also, when you talk below of with and without Phone adapter, what do you
mean exactly ? are you switching the cables around, turning something on or
off, or what ?

Also, when you talk about router, which box do you mean ?





Justin Zhang wrote:


You can see the diagram in the link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Voip-typical.gif
Thanks

On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 8:57 AM, André Warnier a...@ice-sa.com wrote:

Justin Zhang wrote:

Now only local address is working http://192.168.0.100:8080/

Besides myIPaddress, is there any other way to check my external IP
address.
Since I got different IPs with and without Phone adapter. 24.78.136.243
 is
with phone adapter, and the other one is 24.78.147.173. I donot know
which
one is right or both are not right.

Well, we do not know either.  To me that setup is a bit mysterious, but


that may be because I'm in Europe as opposed to Canada.
Can you try to draw some kind of picture of what is connected to what ?



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Re: [us...@httpd] Fwd: Home Web Server

2009-05-14 Thread Justin Zhang
Ip address is 192.168.0.1

On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 10:57 AM, André Warnier a...@ice-sa.com wrote:

 Justin Zhang wrote:

 My setup is exactly the same as the link picture.

 I try connect routher via phone adapter and bypass phone adapter (direcly
 to
 DSL modem, i.e. taking phone adapter off) I got two different IPs from
 myIPaddress.com. My routher is D-Link DI-524 wireless router


 Allright.
 I refer to this page :
 http://support.dlink.com/emulators/di524/st_devic.html

 - Connect your router directly to the DSL modem, and disconnect the Phone
 adapter.

 - in your router configuration :
  - in the Firewall part,
   - click enabled
   - Name : HTTP server
   - Source/Interface : WAN
   - Source/IP Ranges start/stop : empty (*)
   - Destination/Interface : LAN
   - Destination/IP Range start/stop : both 192.168.0.100
   - Destination/Protocol : TCP
   - Destination/Port Range : 8080 and 8080
  then click Apply.

 In your router config, go to Home, then Status, then look at WAN / IP
 address, and tell us that address.

 (*) we try first that, and if it does not work, we will try something else.






 Thanks

 On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 9:24 AM, André Warnier a...@ice-sa.com wrote:

 Ok, seen.

 Is that *exactly* your setup ?
 (if not, tell us what is different compared to the picture)

 Also, when you talk below of with and without Phone adapter, what do
 you
 mean exactly ? are you switching the cables around, turning something on
 or
 off, or what ?

 Also, when you talk about router, which box do you mean ?





 Justin Zhang wrote:

 You can see the diagram in the link
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Voip-typical.gif
 Thanks

 On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 8:57 AM, André Warnier a...@ice-sa.com wrote:

 Justin Zhang wrote:

 Now only local address is working http://192.168.0.100:8080/

 Besides myIPaddress, is there any other way to check my external IP
 address.
 Since I got different IPs with and without Phone adapter.
 24.78.136.243
  is
 with phone adapter, and the other one is 24.78.147.173. I donot know
 which
 one is right or both are not right.

 Well, we do not know either.  To me that setup is a bit mysterious,
 but

 that may be because I'm in Europe as opposed to Canada.
 Can you try to draw some kind of picture of what is connected to what ?



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Re: [us...@httpd] Fwd: Home Web Server

2009-05-14 Thread André Warnier

Justin Zhang wrote:

Ip address is 192.168.0.1


Justin, I am sorry but I give up.
The IP address above makes no sense as a WAN IP, so I have no idea what 
your problem is.





On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 10:57 AM, André Warnier a...@ice-sa.com wrote:


Justin Zhang wrote:


My setup is exactly the same as the link picture.

I try connect routher via phone adapter and bypass phone adapter (direcly
to
DSL modem, i.e. taking phone adapter off) I got two different IPs from
myIPaddress.com. My routher is D-Link DI-524 wireless router



Allright.
I refer to this page :
http://support.dlink.com/emulators/di524/st_devic.html

- Connect your router directly to the DSL modem, and disconnect the Phone
adapter.

- in your router configuration :
 - in the Firewall part,
  - click enabled
  - Name : HTTP server
  - Source/Interface : WAN
  - Source/IP Ranges start/stop : empty (*)
  - Destination/Interface : LAN
  - Destination/IP Range start/stop : both 192.168.0.100
  - Destination/Protocol : TCP
  - Destination/Port Range : 8080 and 8080
 then click Apply.

In your router config, go to Home, then Status, then look at WAN / IP
address, and tell us that address.

(*) we try first that, and if it does not work, we will try something else.






Thanks

On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 9:24 AM, André Warnier a...@ice-sa.com wrote:

Ok, seen.

Is that *exactly* your setup ?
(if not, tell us what is different compared to the picture)

Also, when you talk below of with and without Phone adapter, what do
you
mean exactly ? are you switching the cables around, turning something on
or
off, or what ?

Also, when you talk about router, which box do you mean ?





Justin Zhang wrote:

You can see the diagram in the link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Voip-typical.gif
Thanks

On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 8:57 AM, André Warnier a...@ice-sa.com wrote:

Justin Zhang wrote:


Now only local address is working http://192.168.0.100:8080/


Besides myIPaddress, is there any other way to check my external IP
address.
Since I got different IPs with and without Phone adapter.
24.78.136.243
 is
with phone adapter, and the other one is 24.78.147.173. I donot know
which
one is right or both are not right.

Well, we do not know either.  To me that setup is a bit mysterious,
but

that may be because I'm in Europe as opposed to Canada.

Can you try to draw some kind of picture of what is connected to what ?



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Re: [us...@httpd] Fwd: Home Web Server

2009-05-14 Thread Evan Platt

At 11:28 AM 5/14/2009, you wrote:

Ip address is 192.168.0.1


*sigh*... Can we please take this thread off list if there's someone 
willing to help the OP offline? (I don't unfortunately have the time 
to do so now).. But I mean serious - this is about 40+ messages in 
just over 24 hours, and only about 3 of them are Apache related. 



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Re: [us...@httpd] Fwd: Home Web Server

2009-05-14 Thread Frank Gingras
My thoughts, exactly. Have him hire a local geek for 15 minutes, and get 
this over with.


Frank.

Evan Platt wrote:

At 11:28 AM 5/14/2009, you wrote:

Ip address is 192.168.0.1


*sigh*... Can we please take this thread off list if there's someone 
willing to help the OP offline? (I don't unfortunately have the time 
to do so now).. But I mean serious - this is about 40+ messages in 
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Re: [us...@httpd] Fwd: Home Web Server

2009-05-14 Thread André Warnier

Well, yes.  It was just my Apache evangelist streak at work.
But this is definitely not an Apache issue.

Frank Gingras wrote:
My thoughts, exactly. Have him hire a local geek for 15 minutes, and get 
this over with.


Frank.

Evan Platt wrote:

At 11:28 AM 5/14/2009, you wrote:

Ip address is 192.168.0.1


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Re: [us...@httpd] Fwd: Home Web Server

2009-05-14 Thread Jonas Eckerman

Justin Zhang wrote:

I try connect routher via phone adapter and bypass phone adapter 
(direcly to DSL modem, i.e. taking phone adapter off) I got two 
different IPs from myIPaddress.com.


This could be because you have get dynamic IP with DHCP. A possible 
scenario:


First the phone adapter gets an IP from your ISPs DHCP server.

When you disconnect the phone adapter, the D-Link router needs an IP 
from the DHCP server. Since the D-Link router has a different MAC 
address it will get a different IP address.


Depending on the DHCP servers config you may get a new IP address every 
now and then even if you don't change your setup.


With a dynamic IP you simply need to accept that your IP may change at 
any time and that it is likely to change whenever you change your setup 
or tur off the router or phone adapter (wichever connects to the DSL modem).


If this is a problem, you could use a dynamic DNS service to get a fixed 
host name even though you have a dynamic IP.



Please note that I don't know if the above scenario is applicable to 
your situation.



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Re: [us...@httpd] Fwd: Home Web Server

2009-05-14 Thread Stephen Love

I have also found the modem equipment they supply from your provider also has 
an IDENTIFIER that is equivelant to an IP address... in other words, they TELL 
you that you have a DYNAMIC IP when there is a SEPARATE STATIC IP identifying 
your EQUIPMENT... use THAT instead! If you press them HARD enough, they will 
tell you what it is!

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To: users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: Re: [us...@httpd] Fwd: Home Web Server
Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 00:59:48 +0200

Justin Zhang wrote:

 I try connect routher via phone adapter and bypass phone adapter 
 (direcly to DSL modem, i.e. taking phone adapter off) I got two 
 different IPs from myIPaddress.com.

This could be because you have get dynamic IP with DHCP. A possible 
scenario:

First the phone adapter gets an IP from your ISPs DHCP server.

When you disconnect the phone adapter, the D-Link router needs an IP 
from the DHCP server. Since the D-Link router has a different MAC 
address it will get a different IP address.

Depending on the DHCP servers config you may get a new IP address every 
now and then even if you don't change your setup.

With a dynamic IP you simply need to accept that your IP may change at 
any time and that it is likely to change whenever you change your setup 
or tur off the router or phone adapter (wichever connects to the DSL modem).

If this is a problem, you could use a dynamic DNS service to get a fixed 
host name even though you have a dynamic IP.


Please note that I don't know if the above scenario is applicable to 
your situation.


Regards
/Jonas
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Re: [us...@httpd] Fwd: Home Web Server

2009-05-14 Thread Evan Platt

At 05:15 PM 5/14/2009, you wrote:

I have also found the modem equipment they supply from your provider 
also has an IDENTIFIER that is equivelant to an IP address... in 
other words, they TELL you that you have a DYNAMIC IP when there is 
a SEPARATE STATIC IP identifying your EQUIPMENT... use THAT instead! 
If you press them HARD enough, they will tell you what it is!


What??? I've never heard this. And I worked at ISP's for 5 years, and 
worked WITH ISP's for 10. I'm not sure what you're thinking of, but 
that certainly isn't the case at any ISP I've ever worked for, with 
or dealt with. Maybe on a point to point, but residential DSL or cable? No. 



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Re: [us...@httpd] Fwd: Home Web Server

2009-05-14 Thread Eric Covener
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 8:15 PM, Stephen Love stephenl...@juno.com wrote:

 I have also found the modem equipment they supply from your provider also
 has an IDENTIFIER that is equivelant to an IP address... in other words,
 they TELL you that you have a DYNAMIC IP when there is a SEPARATE STATIC IP
 identifying your EQUIPMENT... use THAT instead! If you press them HARD
 enough, they will tell you what it is!

The truth is out there!

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Re: [us...@httpd] Fwd: Home Web Server

2009-05-14 Thread Stephen Love
Shirley, you jest... how else could an equipment identify itself when turned 
on... I pressed COX CABLE after PURCASING DYNAMIC BUSINESS CABLE connection, 
only to find that they identified your EQUIPMENT before assigning a DYNAMIC IP 
from the pool... but already HAD a PERMANENT EQUIPMENT IP. They gave me that 
one, and for the past year I have enjoyed STATIC IP of  68.99.64.11
Try it!

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From: Evan Platt e...@espphotography.com
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: Re: [us...@httpd] Fwd: Home Web Server
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 17:59:14 -0700

At 05:15 PM 5/14/2009, you wrote:

I have also found the modem equipment they supply from your provider 
also has an IDENTIFIER that is equivelant to an IP address... in 
other words, they TELL you that you have a DYNAMIC IP when there is 
a SEPARATE STATIC IP identifying your EQUIPMENT... use THAT instead! 
If you press them HARD enough, they will tell you what it is!

What??? I've never heard this. And I worked at ISP's for 5 years, and 
worked WITH ISP's for 10. I'm not sure what you're thinking of, but 
that certainly isn't the case at any ISP I've ever worked for, with 
or dealt with. Maybe on a point to point, but residential DSL or cable? No. 


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Re: [us...@httpd] Fwd: Home Web Server

2009-05-14 Thread Eric Covener
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 10:05 PM, Stephen Love stephenl...@juno.com wrote:
 Shirley, you jest... how else could an equipment identify itself when turned
 on...

A MAC address is a good start.

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Re: [us...@httpd] Fwd: Home Web Server

2009-05-14 Thread Evan Platt

At 07:05 PM 5/14/2009, you wrote:

Shirley, you jest... how else could an equipment identify itself 
when turned on... I pressed COX CABLE after PURCASING DYNAMIC 
BUSINESS CABLE connection, only to find that they identified your 
EQUIPMENT before assigning a DYNAMIC IP from the pool... but already 
HAD a PERMANENT EQUIPMENT IP. They gave me that one, and for the 
past year I have enjoyed STATIC IP of  68.99.64.11


Try it!


It's called a MAC address.

So you have two IP addresses? What IP address shows if you go to 
www.whatismyip.com ?


Because I see your 'secret' IP IS 68.99.64.11 in your mail headers:
X-Originating-IP: [68.99.64.11]

So, if this 'second' IP address is some hidden secret, it's not 
hiding. What's your 'other' IP?


Sounds like Cox simply uses DHCP, but assigns the IP address based on 
your mac address. I've had DSL where I've kept the same IP for 
months. No big deal, I use a dynamic dns client. 



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RE: [us...@httpd] Fwd: Home Web Server

2009-05-14 Thread Gund Wehsling
Just a consideration

As far as I know, ADSL uses PPPoA http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pppoa. This is 
how the ISP can have you authenticate before giving you an IP address and 
consequently, you can be denied access before a 'connection' can be made.

Of course, the 'connection' is IP, which then runs over the ATM, as the name 
implies, Point to Point Protocol OVER ATM.

This may not be the case in all installation all over the world, but is the 
case here in NZ. MAC addresses, being unique by RFC definition are the 
underlying magic in IP networks, but ATM magic happens at Layer 1 (connection), 
so no MAC address required and consequently, your ISP can identify you and have 
you authenticate before shelling out an IP address. I am not 100% certain, 
having not worked with ATM before, but I assume the only way to uniquely 
identify any ATM packet is by the switch port, which explains why a techie has 
to connect your new ADSL before it will work (as opposed to dial up that works 
from anywhere) and each provider requires access to the street cabinet. You can 
test this by taking your ADSL modem from one ISP to a friends house who belongs 
to another ISP. It does not work, hence the connection layer is the controlling 
authority.

The articles on Wikipedia are well written and easy to understand with good 
links.

I hope this helps.


Gund


From: Evan Platt [e...@espphotography.com]
Sent: Friday, 15 May 2009 14:34
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: Re: [us...@httpd] Fwd: Home Web Server

At 07:05 PM 5/14/2009, you wrote:

Shirley, you jest... how else could an equipment identify itself
when turned on... I pressed COX CABLE after PURCASING DYNAMIC
BUSINESS CABLE connection, only to find that they identified your
EQUIPMENT before assigning a DYNAMIC IP from the pool... but already
HAD a PERMANENT EQUIPMENT IP. They gave me that one, and for the
past year I have enjoyed STATIC IP of  68.99.64.11

Try it!

It's called a MAC address.

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RE: [us...@httpd] Fwd: Home Web Server

2009-05-14 Thread Evan Platt
That's correct.. There's layer 2 and then there's layer 3. The 
initial connection to most ISP's take place with the MAC address, and 
use arp traffic - it's not IP based.


Also, your DSL modem won't work with another ISP because the 
languages spoken (simplistic terms) by the modems to the ISP are 
different from ISP to ISP. SDSL modems MAY work, more likely than 
ADSL, but same reasoning.


Essentially, there is no 'hidden' IP address. You have one IP 
address. And most providers now, it's static even if it isn't.


I just looked, and I switched to Comcast the middle of March. I've 
had the same IP since. Rebooted EVERYTHING a number of times - 
computer, router, cable modem, etc.


At 07:52 PM 5/14/2009, you wrote:

Just a consideration

As far as I know, ADSL uses PPPoA 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pppoa. This is how the ISP can have you 
authenticate before giving you an IP address and consequently, you 
can be denied access before a 'connection' can be made.


Of course, the 'connection' is IP, which then runs over the ATM, as 
the name implies, Point to Point Protocol OVER ATM.


This may not be the case in all installation all over the world, but 
is the case here in NZ. MAC addresses, being unique by RFC 
definition are the underlying magic in IP networks, but ATM magic 
happens at Layer 1 (connection), so no MAC address required and 
consequently, your ISP can identify you and have you authenticate 
before shelling out an IP address. I am not 100% certain, having not 
worked with ATM before, but I assume the only way to uniquely 
identify any ATM packet is by the switch port, which explains why a 
techie has to connect your new ADSL before it will work (as opposed 
to dial up that works from anywhere) and each provider requires 
access to the street cabinet. You can test this by taking your ADSL 
modem from one ISP to a friends house who belongs to another ISP. It 
does not work, hence the connection layer is the controlling authority.


The articles on Wikipedia are well written and easy to understand 
with good links.


I hope this helps.



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Re: [us...@httpd] Fwd: Home Web Server

2009-05-13 Thread Eric Covener
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Justin Zhang
justinzhang1...@gmail.com wrote:
 My apache web server is connected as the diagram through DLink router,Phone
 adapter and Shaw cable modem.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Voip-typical.gif

 Question, I can brower my web site by http://192.168.0.100/ within local
 network. How can I browse my web site from computer over internet? I check
 my IP address from myIPaddress and get

 24.78.136.243 I try to browser with http://24.78.136.243/ but cannot open
 it.  I got following message.


It's a limitation of many home routers that you can't use your
externally routable IP address from within the LAN.

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RE: [us...@httpd] Fwd: Home Web Server

2009-05-13 Thread Griffith, Michael *
Isn't it possible the router doesn't know how to route the inbound request from 
the internet IP? Most/all routers have a configuration interface accessible via 
a browser.  If you can get to the configuration, make sure that port 80 is 
open, and that the router is forwarding the request to the machine with the 
.100 NAT address...

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From: Eric Covener [mailto:cove...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 9:38 AM
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: Re: [us...@httpd] Fwd: Home Web Server

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Justin Zhang justinzhang1...@gmail.com 
wrote:
 My apache web server is connected as the diagram through DLink 
 router,Phone adapter and Shaw cable modem.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Voip-typical.gif

 Question, I can brower my web site by http://192.168.0.100/ within 
 local network. How can I browse my web site from computer over 
 internet? I check my IP address from myIPaddress and get

 24.78.136.243 I try to browser with http://24.78.136.243/ but cannot 
 open it.  I got following message.


It's a limitation of many home routers that you can't use your externally 
routable IP address from within the LAN.

--
Eric Covener
cove...@gmail.com

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Re: [us...@httpd] Fwd: Home Web Server

2009-05-13 Thread Justin Zhang
Thank you for the quick reply. How do I know which external IP address is
right. I got 2 different address from myIPaddress with  without phone
router. 24.78.136.243 and 24.78.147.173. Is my configuration right?
ServerName 24.78.147.173:80
Thanks
Justin

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 7:38 AM, Eric Covener cove...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Justin Zhang
 justinzhang1...@gmail.com wrote:
  My apache web server is connected as the diagram through DLink
 router,Phone
  adapter and Shaw cable modem.
 
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Voip-typical.gif
 
  Question, I can brower my web site by http://192.168.0.100/ within local
  network. How can I browse my web site from computer over internet? I
 check
  my IP address from myIPaddress and get
 
  24.78.136.243 I try to browser with http://24.78.136.243/ but cannot
 open
  it.  I got following message.
 

 It's a limitation of many home routers that you can't use your
 externally routable IP address from within the LAN.

 --
 Eric Covener
 cove...@gmail.com

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Re: [us...@httpd] Fwd: Home Web Server

2009-05-13 Thread Justin Zhang
My configuration is Listen 192.168.0.100:80

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 7:43 AM, Griffith, Michael * 
michael.griff...@fda.hhs.gov wrote:

 Isn't it possible the router doesn't know how to route the inbound request
 from the internet IP? Most/all routers have a configuration interface
 accessible via a browser.  If you can get to the configuration, make sure
 that port 80 is open, and that the router is forwarding the request to the
 machine with the .100 NAT address...

 -Original Message-
 From: Eric Covener [mailto:cove...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 9:38 AM
 To: users@httpd.apache.org
 Subject: Re: [us...@httpd] Fwd: Home Web Server

 On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Justin Zhang justinzhang1...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  My apache web server is connected as the diagram through DLink
  router,Phone adapter and Shaw cable modem.
 
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Voip-typical.gif
 
  Question, I can brower my web site by http://192.168.0.100/ within
  local network. How can I browse my web site from computer over
  internet? I check my IP address from myIPaddress and get
 
  24.78.136.243 I try to browser with http://24.78.136.243/ but cannot
  open it.  I got following message.
 

 It's a limitation of many home routers that you can't use your externally
 routable IP address from within the LAN.

 --
 Eric Covener
 cove...@gmail.com

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Re: [us...@httpd] Fwd: Home Web Server

2009-05-13 Thread Frank Gingras

Some routers can re-route packets to the internal network, some can't.

If your router cannot do this, you must use the internal IP of your 
server. See the documentation on your operating system to obtain that IP.


Frank.

Griffith, Michael * wrote:

Isn't it possible the router doesn't know how to route the inbound request from 
the internet IP? Most/all routers have a configuration interface accessible via 
a browser.  If you can get to the configuration, make sure that port 80 is 
open, and that the router is forwarding the request to the machine with the 
.100 NAT address...

-Original Message-
From: Eric Covener [mailto:cove...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 9:38 AM

To: users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: Re: [us...@httpd] Fwd: Home Web Server

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Justin Zhang justinzhang1...@gmail.com 
wrote:
  
My apache web server is connected as the diagram through DLink 
router,Phone adapter and Shaw cable modem.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Voip-typical.gif

Question, I can brower my web site by http://192.168.0.100/ within 
local network. How can I browse my web site from computer over 
internet? I check my IP address from myIPaddress and get


24.78.136.243 I try to browser with http://24.78.136.243/ but cannot 
open it.  I got following message.





It's a limitation of many home routers that you can't use your externally 
routable IP address from within the LAN.

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Re: [us...@httpd] Fwd: Home Web Server

2009-05-13 Thread Justin Zhang
Do you mean ipconfig? I got 192.168.0.100 for my server computer

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 7:47 AM, Frank Gingras
francois.ging...@gmail.comwrote:

 Some routers can re-route packets to the internal network, some can't.

 If your router cannot do this, you must use the internal IP of your server.
 See the documentation on your operating system to obtain that IP.

 Frank.


 Griffith, Michael * wrote:

 Isn't it possible the router doesn't know how to route the inbound request
 from the internet IP? Most/all routers have a configuration interface
 accessible via a browser.  If you can get to the configuration, make sure
 that port 80 is open, and that the router is forwarding the request to the
 machine with the .100 NAT address...

 -Original Message-
 From: Eric Covener [mailto:cove...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 13,
 2009 9:38 AM
 To: users@httpd.apache.org
 Subject: Re: [us...@httpd] Fwd: Home Web Server

 On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Justin Zhang justinzhang1...@gmail.com
 wrote:


 My apache web server is connected as the diagram through DLink
 router,Phone adapter and Shaw cable modem.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Voip-typical.gif

 Question, I can brower my web site by http://192.168.0.100/ within local
 network. How can I browse my web site from computer over internet? I check
 my IP address from myIPaddress and get

 24.78.136.243 I try to browser with http://24.78.136.243/ but cannot
 open it.  I got following message.




 It's a limitation of many home routers that you can't use your externally
 routable IP address from within the LAN.

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Re: [us...@httpd] Fwd: Home Web Server

2009-05-13 Thread André Warnier

Justin Zhang wrote:

Thank you for the quick reply. How do I know which external IP address is
right. I got 2 different address from myIPaddress with  without phone
router. 24.78.136.243 and 24.78.147.173. Is my configuration right?
ServerName 24.78.147.173:80


Justin,

there are 2 separate things :
- one is your Apache server, which runs on some machine (of a type we do 
not know yet), but we do know that it has an internal IP address of 
192.168.0.100, and we do know that, apparently, from some (other ?) 
computer in your internal network, you can access this Apache server at 
address 192.168.0.100.

More, we don't know, because you have not said.
But you got it running, so that is good.

- the second is your network configuration.  Of that one, we know very 
little, and it is a bit confusing when you talk about with  without 
phone router and two different (apparently public) IP addresses.


Can you describe your configuration a bit better, like :
- what machine and OS is the Apache running on ?
- what version of Apache, and where did you get it ?
- do you have one, or two connections to the Internet ?
- what are you doing to try to access your webserver from the Internet ? 
what machine are you using for that, and how is it connected to what ?
- is the machine where Apache is running the same as the machine where 
you use your browser ? How many machines are there in your internal 
network ?


Another important aspect : you give two public (Internet) IP addresses 
above. Are these two IP addresses permanent (always the same), or do 
they change every day, or when you reboot your Internet router ?



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Re: [us...@httpd] Fwd: Home Web Server

2009-05-13 Thread Lester Caine

Justin Zhang wrote:
Thank you for the quick reply. How do I know which external IP address 
is right. I got 2 different address from myIPaddress with  without 
phone router. 24.78.136.243 and 24.78.147.173. Is my configuration 
right? ServerName 24.78.147.173:80 http://24.78.147.173:80


Both addresses fail to provide web sites from this side ...
http://24.78.147.173 simply times out, but http://24.78.136.243/ 
probably has something attached as it says connection refused. So either 
your router does not know how to pass the messages through. ( Mine has a 
firewall that needs a port opening to allow the local web site out ) or 
since I doubt that you have a static IP address, your ISP is blocking 
things. Bare in mind that these numbers may well change when you 
reconnect ...


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Re: [us...@httpd] Fwd: Home Web Server

2009-05-13 Thread Justin Zhang
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 7:58 AM, André Warnier a...@ice-sa.com wrote:

 Justin Zhang wrote:

 Thank you for the quick reply. How do I know which external IP address is
 right. I got 2 different address from myIPaddress with  without phone
 router. 24.78.136.243 and 24.78.147.173. Is my configuration right?
 ServerName 24.78.147.173:80 http://24.78.147.173/


 Justin,

 there are 2 separate things :
 - one is your Apache server, which runs on some machine (of a type we do
 not know yet), but we do know that it has an internal IP address of
 192.168.0.100, and we do know that, apparently, from some (other ?) computer
 in your internal network, you can access this Apache server at address
 192.168.0.100.
 More, we don't know, because you have not said.
 But you got it running, so that is good.

 - the second is your network configuration.  Of that one, we know very
 little, and it is a bit confusing when you talk about with  without phone
 router and two different (apparently public) IP addresses.

 Can you describe your configuration a bit better, like :
 - what machine and OS is the Apache running on ?


Windows XP


 - what version of Apache, and where did you get it ?

 Win32 Binary including OpenSSL 0.9.8i (MSI Installer):
apache_2.2.11-win32-x86-openssl-0.9.8i.msihttp://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/apache/httpd/binaries/win32/apache_2.2.11-win32-x86-openssl-0.9.8i.msi[
PGPhttp://www.apache.org/dist/httpd/binaries/win32/apache_2.2.11-win32-x86-openssl-0.9.8i.msi.asc]
[MD5http://www.apache.org/dist/httpd/binaries/win32/apache_2.2.11-win32-x86-openssl-0.9.8i.msi.md5]
from Apache.org




 - do you have one, or two connections to the Internet ?

I have one connection


 - what are you doing to try to access your webserver from the Internet ?
 what machine are you using for that, and how is it connected to what ?

just testing to browser the default installed page. I tried with another
computer in the network it can read internal address 192.168.0.100 but not
external one


 - is the machine where Apache is running the same as the machine where you
 use your browser ? How many machines are there in your internal network ?
 2 one destop server and one laptop
 Another important aspect : you give two public (Internet) IP addresses
 above. Are these two IP addresses permanent (always the same), or do they
 change every day, or when you reboot your Internet router ?
 permanent i tried a few days


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Re: [us...@httpd] Fwd: Home Web Server

2009-05-13 Thread Lester Caine

Justin Zhang wrote:

Do you mean ipconfig? I got 192.168.0.100 for my server computer


That is a private IP address and is never used outside a site. You nned 
to 'map' that to the internet side of your router - if it can handle 
such a thing.


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Re: [us...@httpd] Fwd: Home Web Server

2009-05-13 Thread Justin Zhang
How to open a port to allow the local web site out?
Thanks




On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 8:06 AM, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote:

 Justin Zhang wrote:

 Thank you for the quick reply. How do I know which external IP address is
 right. I got 2 different address from myIPaddress with  without phone
 router. 24.78.136.243 and 24.78.147.173. Is my configuration right?
 ServerName 24.78.147.173:80 http://24.78.147.173/ 
 http://24.78.147.173:80 http://24.78.147.173/


 Both addresses fail to provide web sites from this side ...
 http://24.78.147.173 simply times out, but http://24.78.136.243/ probably
 has something attached as it says connection refused. So either your router
 does not know how to pass the messages through. ( Mine has a firewall that
 needs a port opening to allow the local web site out ) or since I doubt that
 you have a static IP address, your ISP is blocking things. Bare in mind that
 these numbers may well change when you reconnect ...

 --
 Lester Caine - G8HFL
 -
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 L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk
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Re: [us...@httpd] Fwd: Home Web Server

2009-05-13 Thread Justin Zhang
I did already from DLink configuration page

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 8:08 AM, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote:

 Justin Zhang wrote:

 Do you mean ipconfig? I got 192.168.0.100 for my server computer


 That is a private IP address and is never used outside a site. You nned to
 'map' that to the internet side of your router - if it can handle such a
 thing.

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Re: [us...@httpd] Fwd: Home Web Server

2009-05-13 Thread Mark H. Wood
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 08:10:01AM -0700, Justin Zhang wrote:
 How to open a port to allow the local web site out?

Consult the instructions that came with your router.  Every one of
them is different.

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Re: [us...@httpd] Fwd: Home Web Server

2009-05-13 Thread Frank Gingras

Justin,

See: www.portforward.com

Frank

Justin Zhang wrote:

How to open a port to allow the local web site out?
Thanks




On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 8:06 AM, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote:

  

Justin Zhang wrote:



Thank you for the quick reply. How do I know which external IP address is
right. I got 2 different address from myIPaddress with  without phone
router. 24.78.136.243 and 24.78.147.173. Is my configuration right?
ServerName 24.78.147.173:80 http://24.78.147.173/ 
http://24.78.147.173:80 http://24.78.147.173/

  

Both addresses fail to provide web sites from this side ...
http://24.78.147.173 simply times out, but http://24.78.136.243/ probably
has something attached as it says connection refused. So either your router
does not know how to pass the messages through. ( Mine has a firewall that
needs a port opening to allow the local web site out ) or since I doubt that
you have a static IP address, your ISP is blocking things. Bare in mind that
these numbers may well change when you reconnect ...

--
Lester Caine - G8HFL
-
Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact
L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk
EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/
Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk//
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Re: [us...@httpd] Fwd: Home Web Server

2009-05-13 Thread André Warnier

Hi.

We are making some progress.

First thing to try : turn off your router, wait 30 sec, turn it back on.
Do you still have the same external IP address ?

Second thing to try : when you are sure that you still have the same 
external IP address (or it has changed, and then tell us), you should 
really try to access this IP address *from the outside*.
You cannot do that from inside your own network, if you have only one 
internet connection.  We can try it for you, after you turn off/on your 
router and verify its address again.


The problem is probably that your router (who is the one that has this 
external IP address), does not know that when some external computer 
tries to contact it on port 80, it should pass on this call to your 
internal webserver.  So it tries to answer itself, but itself has no 
webserver active on port 80.





Justin Zhang wrote:

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 7:58 AM, André Warnier a...@ice-sa.com wrote:


Justin Zhang wrote:


Thank you for the quick reply. How do I know which external IP address is
right. I got 2 different address from myIPaddress with  without phone
router. 24.78.136.243 and 24.78.147.173. Is my configuration right?
ServerName 24.78.147.173:80 http://24.78.147.173/


Justin,

there are 2 separate things :
- one is your Apache server, which runs on some machine (of a type we do
not know yet), but we do know that it has an internal IP address of
192.168.0.100, and we do know that, apparently, from some (other ?) computer
in your internal network, you can access this Apache server at address
192.168.0.100.
More, we don't know, because you have not said.
But you got it running, so that is good.

- the second is your network configuration.  Of that one, we know very
little, and it is a bit confusing when you talk about with  without phone
router and two different (apparently public) IP addresses.

Can you describe your configuration a bit better, like :
- what machine and OS is the Apache running on ?



Windows XP


- what version of Apache, and where did you get it ?


 Win32 Binary including OpenSSL 0.9.8i (MSI Installer):
apache_2.2.11-win32-x86-openssl-0.9.8i.msihttp://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/apache/httpd/binaries/win32/apache_2.2.11-win32-x86-openssl-0.9.8i.msi[
PGPhttp://www.apache.org/dist/httpd/binaries/win32/apache_2.2.11-win32-x86-openssl-0.9.8i.msi.asc]
[MD5http://www.apache.org/dist/httpd/binaries/win32/apache_2.2.11-win32-x86-openssl-0.9.8i.msi.md5]
from Apache.org




- do you have one, or two connections to the Internet ?


I have one connection


- what are you doing to try to access your webserver from the Internet ?
what machine are you using for that, and how is it connected to what ?


just testing to browser the default installed page. I tried with another
computer in the network it can read internal address 192.168.0.100 but not
external one


- is the machine where Apache is running the same as the machine where you
use your browser ? How many machines are there in your internal network ?
2 one destop server and one laptop
Another important aspect : you give two public (Internet) IP addresses
above. Are these two IP addresses permanent (always the same), or do they
change every day, or when you reboot your Internet router ?
permanent i tried a few days


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Re: [us...@httpd] Fwd: Home Web Server

2009-05-13 Thread J. Greenlees
Justin Zhang wrote:
 My apache web server is connected as the diagram through DLink router,Phone
 adapter and Shaw cable modem.
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Voip-typical.gif
 
 Question, I can brower my web site by http://192.168.0.100/ within local
 network. How can I browse my web site from computer over internet? I check
 my IP address from myIPaddress and get

It's Shaw, they block port 80, change the Apache conf to have Apache use
8080

had that problem with shaw myself.

and email from a remote server you need to change the port for that
also, add one to the default.

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Re: [us...@httpd] Fwd: Home Web Server

2009-05-13 Thread Justin Zhang
Is my cofiguration right?

Listen 192.168.0.100:80
ServerName 24.78.136.243:80

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 9:32 AM, J. Greenlees li...@jaqui-greenlees.netwrote:

 Justin Zhang wrote:
  My apache web server is connected as the diagram through DLink
 router,Phone
  adapter and Shaw cable modem.
 
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Voip-typical.gif
 
  Question, I can brower my web site by http://192.168.0.100/ within local
  network. How can I browse my web site from computer over internet? I
 check
  my IP address from myIPaddress and get

 It's Shaw, they block port 80, change the Apache conf to have Apache use
 8080

 had that problem with shaw myself.

 and email from a remote server you need to change the port for that
 also, add one to the default.

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Re: [us...@httpd] Fwd: Home Web Server

2009-05-13 Thread Francois Gingras
Justin,

1) You should not use the port in the ServerName

2) those directives will not fix the original issue, as outlined in
this thread. Did you have to a chance to read www.portforward.com?

Frank

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Justin Zhang justinzhang1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Is my cofiguration right?

 Listen 192.168.0.100:80
 ServerName 24.78.136.243:80

 On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 9:32 AM, J. Greenlees li...@jaqui-greenlees.net
 wrote:

 Justin Zhang wrote:
  My apache web server is connected as the diagram through DLink
  router,Phone
  adapter and Shaw cable modem.
 
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Voip-typical.gif
 
  Question, I can brower my web site by http://192.168.0.100/ within local
  network. How can I browse my web site from computer over internet? I
  check
  my IP address from myIPaddress and get

 It's Shaw, they block port 80, change the Apache conf to have Apache use
 8080

 had that problem with shaw myself.

 and email from a remote server you need to change the port for that
 also, add one to the default.

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Re: [us...@httpd] Fwd: Home Web Server

2009-05-13 Thread Justin Zhang
It is fixed IP address

*24.78.136.243*
Could you help me test from your side?

Thanks,




On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 8:24 AM, André Warnier a...@ice-sa.com wrote:

 Hi.

 We are making some progress.

 First thing to try : turn off your router, wait 30 sec, turn it back on.
 Do you still have the same external IP address ?

 Second thing to try : when you are sure that you still have the same
 external IP address (or it has changed, and then tell us), you should really
 try to access this IP address *from the outside*.
 You cannot do that from inside your own network, if you have only one
 internet connection.  We can try it for you, after you turn off/on your
 router and verify its address again.

 The problem is probably that your router (who is the one that has this
 external IP address), does not know that when some external computer tries
 to contact it on port 80, it should pass on this call to your internal
 webserver.  So it tries to answer itself, but itself has no webserver active
 on port 80.




 Justin Zhang wrote:

 On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 7:58 AM, André Warnier a...@ice-sa.com wrote:

 Justin Zhang wrote:

  Thank you for the quick reply. How do I know which external IP address
 is
 right. I got 2 different address from myIPaddress with  without phone
 router. 24.78.136.243 and 24.78.147.173. Is my configuration right?
 ServerName 24.78.147.173:80 http://24.78.147.173/ 
 http://24.78.147.173/

 Justin,

 there are 2 separate things :
 - one is your Apache server, which runs on some machine (of a type we do
 not know yet), but we do know that it has an internal IP address of
 192.168.0.100, and we do know that, apparently, from some (other ?)
 computer
 in your internal network, you can access this Apache server at address
 192.168.0.100.
 More, we don't know, because you have not said.
 But you got it running, so that is good.

 - the second is your network configuration.  Of that one, we know very
 little, and it is a bit confusing when you talk about with  without
 phone
 router and two different (apparently public) IP addresses.

 Can you describe your configuration a bit better, like :
 - what machine and OS is the Apache running on ?



 Windows XP

 - what version of Apache, and where did you get it ?


  Win32 Binary including OpenSSL 0.9.8i (MSI Installer):
 apache_2.2.11-win32-x86-openssl-0.9.8i.msi
 http://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/apache/httpd/binaries/win32/apache_2.2.11-win32-x86-openssl-0.9.8i.msi
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 - do you have one, or two connections to the Internet ?


 I have one connection

 - what are you doing to try to access your webserver from the Internet ?
 what machine are you using for that, and how is it connected to what ?


 just testing to browser the default installed page. I tried with another
 computer in the network it can read internal address 192.168.0.100 but not
 external one

 - is the machine where Apache is running the same as the machine where you
 use your browser ? How many machines are there in your internal network ?
 2 one destop server and one laptop
 Another important aspect : you give two public (Internet) IP addresses
 above. Are these two IP addresses permanent (always the same), or do they
 change every day, or when you reboot your Internet router ?
 permanent i tried a few days


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Re: [us...@httpd] Fwd: Home Web Server

2009-05-13 Thread Evan Platt

# telnet 24.78.136.243  80
Trying 24.78.136.243...
telnet: connect to address 24.78.136.243: Connection refused
telnet: Unable to connect to remote host

Did you change the port as J. Greenlees suggested?


At 10:58 AM 5/13/2009, you wrote:

It is fixed IP address

24.78.136.243
Could you help me test from your side?

Thanks,




On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 8:24 AM, André Warnier 
mailto:a...@ice-sa.coma...@ice-sa.com wrote:

Hi.

We are making some progress.

First thing to try : turn off your router, wait 30 sec, turn it back on.
Do you still have the same external IP address ?

Second thing to try : when you are sure that you 
still have the same external IP address (or it 
has changed, and then tell us), you should 
really try to access this IP address *from the outside*.
You cannot do that from inside your own network, 
if you have only one internet connection.  We 
can try it for you, after you turn off/on your 
router and verify its address again.


The problem is probably that your router (who is 
the one that has this external IP address), does 
not know that when some external computer tries 
to contact it on port 80, it should pass on this 
call to your internal webserver.  So it tries to 
answer itself, but itself has no webserver active on port 80.





Justin Zhang wrote:
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 7:58 AM, André Warnier 
mailto:a...@ice-sa.coma...@ice-sa.com wrote:


Justin Zhang wrote:

Thank you for the quick reply. How do I know which external IP address is
right. I got 2 different address from myIPaddress with  without phone
router. 24.78.136.243 and 24.78.147.173. Is my configuration right?
ServerName 
http://24.78.147.173/24.78.147.173:80 
http://24.78.147.173/http://24.78.147.173/


Justin,

there are 2 separate things :
- one is your Apache server, which runs on some machine (of a type we do
not know yet), but we do know that it has an internal IP address of
192.168.0.100, and we do know that, apparently, from some (other ?) computer
in your internal network, you can access this Apache server at address
192.168.0.100.
More, we don't know, because you have not said.
But you got it running, so that is good.

- the second is your network configuration.  Of that one, we know very
little, and it is a bit confusing when you talk about with  without phone
router and two different (apparently public) IP addresses.

Can you describe your configuration a bit better, like :
- what machine and OS is the Apache running on ?



Windows XP

- what version of Apache, and where did you get it ?


 Win32 Binary including OpenSSL 0.9.8i (MSI Installer):
apache_2.2.11-win32-x86-openssl-0.9.8i.msihttp://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/apache/httpd/binaries/win32/apache_2.2.11-win32-x86-openssl-0.9.8i.msihttp://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/apache/httpd/binaries/win32/apache_2.2.11-win32-x86-openssl-0.9.8i.msi[
PGPhttp://www.apache.org/dist/httpd/binaries/win32/apache_2.2.11-win32-x86-openssl-0.9.8i.msi.aschttp://www.apache.org/dist/httpd/binaries/win32/apache_2.2.11-win32-x86-openssl-0.9.8i.msi.asc]
[MD5http://www.apache.org/dist/httpd/binaries/win32/apache_2.2.11-win32-x86-openssl-0.9.8i.msi.md5http://www.apache.org/dist/httpd/binaries/win32/apache_2.2.11-win32-x86-openssl-0.9.8i.msi.md5] 



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- do you have one, or two connections to the Internet ?


I have one connection

- what are you doing to try to access your webserver from the Internet ?
what machine are you using for that, and how is it connected to what ?


just testing to browser the default installed page. I tried with another
computer in the network it can read internal address 192.168.0.100 but not
external one

- is the machine where Apache is running the same as the machine where you
use your browser ? How many machines are there in your internal network ?
2 one destop server and one laptop
Another important aspect : you give two public (Internet) IP addresses
above. Are these two IP addresses permanent (always the same), or do they
change every day, or when you reboot your Internet router ?
permanent i tried a few days


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Re: [us...@httpd] Fwd: Home Web Server

2009-05-13 Thread Justin Zhang
I am not sure where to change the port

I tried to change Listen 192.168.0.100:80 -- 192.168.0.100:8080. Even
internal IP is not working.




On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Evan Platt e...@espphotography.comwrote:

 # telnet 24.78.136.243  80
 Trying 24.78.136.243...
 telnet: connect to address 24.78.136.243: Connection refused
 telnet: Unable to connect to remote host

 Did you change the port as J. Greenlees suggested?


 At 10:58 AM 5/13/2009, you wrote:

 It is fixed IP address

 24.78.136.243
 Could you help me test from your side?

 Thanks,




 On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 8:24 AM, André Warnier mailto:a...@ice-sa.com
 a...@ice-sa.com wrote:
 Hi.

 We are making some progress.

 First thing to try : turn off your router, wait 30 sec, turn it back on.
 Do you still have the same external IP address ?

 Second thing to try : when you are sure that you still have the same
 external IP address (or it has changed, and then tell us), you should really
 try to access this IP address *from the outside*.
 You cannot do that from inside your own network, if you have only one
 internet connection.  We can try it for you, after you turn off/on your
 router and verify its address again.

 The problem is probably that your router (who is the one that has this
 external IP address), does not know that when some external computer tries
 to contact it on port 80, it should pass on this call to your internal
 webserver.  So it tries to answer itself, but itself has no webserver active
 on port 80.




 Justin Zhang wrote:
 On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 7:58 AM, André Warnier mailto:a...@ice-sa.com
 a...@ice-sa.com wrote:

 Justin Zhang wrote:

 Thank you for the quick reply. How do I know which external IP address is
 right. I got 2 different address from myIPaddress with  without phone
 router. 24.78.136.243 and 24.78.147.173. Is my configuration right?
 ServerName http://24.78.147.173/24.78.147.173:80http://24.78.147.173/
 http://24.78.147.173/http://24.78.147.173/

 Justin,

 there are 2 separate things :
 - one is your Apache server, which runs on some machine (of a type we do
 not know yet), but we do know that it has an internal IP address of
 192.168.0.100, and we do know that, apparently, from some (other ?)
 computer
 in your internal network, you can access this Apache server at address
 192.168.0.100.
 More, we don't know, because you have not said.
 But you got it running, so that is good.

 - the second is your network configuration.  Of that one, we know very
 little, and it is a bit confusing when you talk about with  without
 phone
 router and two different (apparently public) IP addresses.

 Can you describe your configuration a bit better, like :
 - what machine and OS is the Apache running on ?



 Windows XP

 - what version of Apache, and where did you get it ?


  Win32 Binary including OpenSSL 0.9.8i (MSI Installer):
 apache_2.2.11-win32-x86-openssl-0.9.8i.msi
 http://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/apache/httpd/binaries/win32/apache_2.2.11-win32-x86-openssl-0.9.8i.msi
 
 http://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/apache/httpd/binaries/win32/apache_2.2.11-win32-x86-openssl-0.9.8i.msi
 [
 PGP
 http://www.apache.org/dist/httpd/binaries/win32/apache_2.2.11-win32-x86-openssl-0.9.8i.msi.asc
 
 http://www.apache.org/dist/httpd/binaries/win32/apache_2.2.11-win32-x86-openssl-0.9.8i.msi.asc
 ]
 [MD5
 http://www.apache.org/dist/httpd/binaries/win32/apache_2.2.11-win32-x86-openssl-0.9.8i.msi.md5
 
 http://www.apache.org/dist/httpd/binaries/win32/apache_2.2.11-win32-x86-openssl-0.9.8i.msi.md5]


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 - do you have one, or two connections to the Internet ?


 I have one connection

 - what are you doing to try to access your webserver from the Internet ?
 what machine are you using for that, and how is it connected to what ?


 just testing to browser the default installed page. I tried with another
 computer in the network it can read internal address 192.168.0.100 but not
 external one

 - is the machine where Apache is running the same as the machine where you
 use your browser ? How many machines are there in your internal network ?
 2 one destop server and one laptop
 Another important aspect : you give two public (Internet) IP addresses
 above. Are these two IP addresses permanent (always the same), or do they
 change every day, or when you reboot your Internet router ?
 permanent i tried a few days


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Re: [us...@httpd] Fwd: Home Web Server

2009-05-13 Thread André Warnier

Justin Zhang wrote:

Is my cofiguration right?

Listen 192.168.0.100:80
ServerName 24.78.136.243:80


Not entirely.  Simplify :
Listen 80
ServerName 24.78.136.243


Some tips :
- do not make changes to the configuration unless you know exactly why 
you are making them, and what you are doing.
- make one single change at a time, restart Apache, and check that it 
still works like it did before.
- do not make changes in-between messages that you post here, or else 
you will upset the people trying to help you, and they will not answer 
anymore


You have a basically working Apache now. Do not ruin it, or else it is 
going to be very hard to fix what does not work yet.
So far, your problem does not seem to be with Apache, but with the 
network outside of Apache.


Now about the change I recommended above, and why :

Listen 192.168.0.100:80
is unnecessarily restrictive. It means that your Apache will *only* 
process requests that arrive on its interface that has the IP address 
192.168.0.100.  So it would not process request that arrive on is 
interface 127.0.0.1 (the loopback interface).

Listen 80
means : process all requests arriving for port 80, no matter through 
which interface they arrive.






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Re: [us...@httpd] Fwd: Home Web Server

2009-05-13 Thread Justin Zhang
http://192.168.0.100:8080 is working for me now. Could you help try my
external IP

*24.78.136.243*
Thanks,



On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Frank Gingras
francois.ging...@gmail.comwrote:

 Justin,

 You'll need to use http://192.168.0.100:8080 from your internal machines,
 after you restarted httpd.

 Frank.


 Justin Zhang wrote:

 I am not sure where to change the port

 I tried to change Listen 192.168.0.100:80 http://192.168.0.100/ --
 192.168.0.100:8080. Even
 internal IP is not working.




 On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Evan Platt e...@espphotography.com
 wrote:



 # telnet 24.78.136.243  80
 Trying 24.78.136.243...
 telnet: connect to address 24.78.136.243: Connection refused
 telnet: Unable to connect to remote host

 Did you change the port as J. Greenlees suggested?


 At 10:58 AM 5/13/2009, you wrote:



 It is fixed IP address

 24.78.136.243
 Could you help me test from your side?

 Thanks,




 On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 8:24 AM, André Warnier mailto:a...@ice-sa.com
 a...@ice-sa.com wrote:
 Hi.

 We are making some progress.

 First thing to try : turn off your router, wait 30 sec, turn it back on.
 Do you still have the same external IP address ?

 Second thing to try : when you are sure that you still have the same
 external IP address (or it has changed, and then tell us), you should
 really
 try to access this IP address *from the outside*.
 You cannot do that from inside your own network, if you have only one
 internet connection.  We can try it for you, after you turn off/on your
 router and verify its address again.

 The problem is probably that your router (who is the one that has this
 external IP address), does not know that when some external computer
 tries
 to contact it on port 80, it should pass on this call to your internal
 webserver.  So it tries to answer itself, but itself has no webserver
 active
 on port 80.




 Justin Zhang wrote:
 On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 7:58 AM, André Warnier mailto:a...@ice-sa.com
 a...@ice-sa.com wrote:

 Justin Zhang wrote:

 Thank you for the quick reply. How do I know which external IP address
 is
 right. I got 2 different address from myIPaddress with  without phone
 router. 24.78.136.243 and 24.78.147.173. Is my configuration right?
 ServerName http://24.78.147.173/24.78.147.173:80http://24.78.147.173/
 http://24.78.147.173/
 http://24.78.147.173/http://24.78.147.173/

 Justin,

 there are 2 separate things :
 - one is your Apache server, which runs on some machine (of a type we do
 not know yet), but we do know that it has an internal IP address of
 192.168.0.100, and we do know that, apparently, from some (other ?)
 computer
 in your internal network, you can access this Apache server at address
 192.168.0.100.
 More, we don't know, because you have not said.
 But you got it running, so that is good.

 - the second is your network configuration.  Of that one, we know very
 little, and it is a bit confusing when you talk about with  without
 phone
 router and two different (apparently public) IP addresses.

 Can you describe your configuration a bit better, like :
 - what machine and OS is the Apache running on ?



 Windows XP

 - what version of Apache, and where did you get it ?


  Win32 Binary including OpenSSL 0.9.8i (MSI Installer):
 apache_2.2.11-win32-x86-openssl-0.9.8i.msi

 http://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/apache/httpd/binaries/win32/apache_2.2.11-win32-x86-openssl-0.9.8i.msi

 http://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/apache/httpd/binaries/win32/apache_2.2.11-win32-x86-openssl-0.9.8i.msi


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 http://www.apache.org/dist/httpd/binaries/win32/apache_2.2.11-win32-x86-openssl-0.9.8i.msi.asc

 http://www.apache.org/dist/httpd/binaries/win32/apache_2.2.11-win32-x86-openssl-0.9.8i.msi.asc


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 ]


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 - do you have one, or two connections to the Internet ?


 I have one connection

 - what are you doing to try to access your webserver from the Internet ?
 what machine are you using for that, and how is it connected to what ?


 just testing to browser the default installed page. I tried with another
 computer in the network it can read internal address 192.168.0.100 but
 not
 external one

 - is the machine where Apache is running the same as the machine where
 you
 use your browser ? How many machines are there in your internal network
 ?
 2 one destop server and one laptop
 Another important aspect : you give two public (Internet) IP addresses
 above. Are these two IP addresses permanent (always the same), or do
 they
 change every day, or when you reboot your Internet router ?
 permanent i tried a few days


 -
 The official User-To-User support forum of the Apache HTTP Server
 Project.
 See URL:http://httpd.apache.org/userslist.html for 

Re: [us...@httpd] Fwd: Home Web Server

2009-05-13 Thread André Warnier

Justin Zhang wrote:

http://192.168.0.100:8080 is working for me now. Could you help try my
external IP

*24.78.136.243*
Thanks,


Doesn't work : connection refused.

I believe now is time for a pause to think.

When we connect from outside to the address 24.78.136.243, we in fact 
connect to your *router*.

Your router is not your webserver.
Your router should know, that when it receives a connection to its port 
80 (or 8080), it should forward this connection to your Apache server, 
at the IP address 192.168.0.100.

Is there something in your router configuration that tells it to do that ?


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Re: [us...@httpd] Fwd: Home Web Server

2009-05-13 Thread Justin Zhang
Thank you for the tips. I have to clarify my current configuration

Listen 8080
ServerName 24.78.136.243

Now both http://192.168.0.100/ and http://192.168.0.100:8080/ are working.
Still need testing external IP 24.78.136.243.




On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 11:33 AM, André Warnier a...@ice-sa.com wrote:

 Justin Zhang wrote:

 Is my cofiguration right?

 Listen 192.168.0.100:80 http://192.168.0.100/
 ServerName 24.78.136.243:80 http://24.78.136.243/

 Not entirely.  Simplify :
 Listen 80
 ServerName 24.78.136.243


 Some tips :
 - do not make changes to the configuration unless you know exactly why you
 are making them, and what you are doing.
 - make one single change at a time, restart Apache, and check that it still
 works like it did before.
 - do not make changes in-between messages that you post here, or else you
 will upset the people trying to help you, and they will not answer anymore

 You have a basically working Apache now. Do not ruin it, or else it is
 going to be very hard to fix what does not work yet.
 So far, your problem does not seem to be with Apache, but with the network
 outside of Apache.

 Now about the change I recommended above, and why :

 Listen 192.168.0.100:80 http://192.168.0.100/
 is unnecessarily restrictive. It means that your Apache will *only* process
 requests that arrive on its interface that has the IP address
 192.168.0.100.  So it would not process request that arrive on is
 interface 127.0.0.1 (the loopback interface).
 Listen 80
 means : process all requests arriving for port 80, no matter through which
 interface they arrive.






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Re: [us...@httpd] Fwd: Home Web Server

2009-05-13 Thread Justin Zhang
Current router configuration
  Virtual Server HTTP 192.168.0.100 TCP 8080/8080 Always
Private port and public port are all 8080. Before it is 80/80 for port 80



On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 11:46 AM, André Warnier a...@ice-sa.com wrote:

 Justin Zhang wrote:

 http://192.168.0.100:8080 is working for me now. Could you help try my
 external IP

 *24.78.136.243*
 Thanks,


 Doesn't work : connection refused.

 I believe now is time for a pause to think.

 When we connect from outside to the address 24.78.136.243, we in fact
 connect to your *router*.
 Your router is not your webserver.
 Your router should know, that when it receives a connection to its port 80
 (or 8080), it should forward this connection to your Apache server, at the
 IP address 192.168.0.100.
 Is there something in your router configuration that tells it to do that ?



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