Re: [389-users] 1.2.11.29 prediction?
On Apr 3, 2014, at 5:11 PM, Rich Megginson rmegg...@redhat.com wrote: On 04/03/2014 02:56 PM, Morgan Jones wrote: On Apr 3, 2014, at 3:39 PM, Rich Megginson rmegg...@redhat.com wrote: On 04/03/2014 01:35 PM, Michael Gettes wrote: Yeah, I hear what you’re saying. 47758 is due to running bleeding edge, i get it. but i had to go there cuz I was having problems with objects getting messed up with .15 in production and even .25 in test and I went to .28 which had the SASL fix on top of .26 which fixed all object problems. The object problems were the emails I sent to the list indicating objects I couldn’t delete or modify and .28 fixed those problems. This is where i feel i was a little trapped and had to come forward to the bleeding edge. there was a method to my madness and didn’t this just willy nilly and hence where i was hoping for .29 to i might have a good mix of things - even if it was on the bleeding edge. i hope this makes sense. Yes, and we are working on fixing those issues in EL6.6. So perhaps when EL6.6 is released you will be able to use the OS packages. Rich et al, I've been following this thread with interest. I am however a little confused about the right place and version to get 389: you make a distinction between the source version (versions 1.2.11.28 and 1.3.1.16). Both are stable, 1.3.1 is just newer and potentially more bleeding edge? 1.3.1 also seems to not be available from either the OS or epel repositories. 1.2.11 branch is strictly maintenance - only the most critical patches. 1.3.1 branch is less strict - it may get new features. 1.3.1 is available for Fecdora 19. 1.3.1 will be in EL7. We are not planning to provide it in EPEL7 at this time. Thanks, that makes sense. And if epel6 contains patches that have not been fully tested and I should avoid it in production but how do I get the admin server, console etc? There is a distinction between epel6 and the official EPEL6. What we call 389-ds-base in epel6 is not really the official EPEL6 repository. It is an individual developer provided and supported fedorapeople (and now copr) repository strictly for those who want to (or must) be on the bleeding edge of the 1.2.11 branch - those who absolutely require bug fixes or features that are present in the upstream 1.2.11 branch, but are not yet in the official EL6.5 389-ds-base package. I understand. I didn't catch the distinction between EPEL6 and epel6. Where is the (lowercase) epel6/copr repository? I know I've seen the fedora people repository in the past but I can't for the life of me find it (or copr) now. I see various pages but not the repository itself. thanks for the clarifications, -morgan On Apr 3, 2014, at 10:53 AM, Michael Gettes get...@gmail.com wrote: I recognize 389 is a community project and asking for timelines can be problematic. Right now, I am sorta stuck between a rock and a hard place. In production, I am on 1.2.11.15 which has problems that are fixed by 1.2.11.28. I have 1.2.11.28 in test and fixes all my prod problems but introduces a new problem which makes it rather difficult to manage the environment and it would appear this will be corrected in 1.2.11.29. So, I am a little curious as to when we might see 29. I do see on the roadmap 29 has 4 closed and 5 active but no date set. Wouldn't this be a good time for Michael to consider 1.3.1? Sure, but we are not considering providing 1.3.1 rpms for EL6 at this time. That means building/packaging/repository/updating manually. thanks, -morgan -- 389 users mailing list 389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users -- 389 users mailing list 389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users -- 389 users mailing list 389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users
Re: [389-users] 1.2.11.29 prediction?
On 04/04/2014 01:04 PM, Morgan Jones wrote: On Apr 3, 2014, at 5:11 PM, Rich Megginson rmegg...@redhat.com wrote: On 04/03/2014 02:56 PM, Morgan Jones wrote: On Apr 3, 2014, at 3:39 PM, Rich Megginson rmegg...@redhat.com wrote: On 04/03/2014 01:35 PM, Michael Gettes wrote: Yeah, I hear what you’re saying. 47758 is due to running bleeding edge, i get it. but i had to go there cuz I was having problems with objects getting messed up with .15 in production and even .25 in test and I went to .28 which had the SASL fix on top of .26 which fixed all object problems. The object problems were the emails I sent to the list indicating objects I couldn’t delete or modify and .28 fixed those problems. This is where i feel i was a little trapped and had to come forward to the bleeding edge. there was a method to my madness and didn’t this just willy nilly and hence where i was hoping for .29 to i might have a good mix of things - even if it was on the bleeding edge. i hope this makes sense. Yes, and we are working on fixing those issues in EL6.6. So perhaps when EL6.6 is released you will be able to use the OS packages. Rich et al, I've been following this thread with interest. I am however a little confused about the right place and version to get 389: you make a distinction between the source version (versions 1.2.11.28 and 1.3.1.16). Both are stable, 1.3.1 is just newer and potentially more bleeding edge? 1.3.1 also seems to not be available from either the OS or epel repositories. 1.2.11 branch is strictly maintenance - only the most critical patches. 1.3.1 branch is less strict - it may get new features. 1.3.1 is available for Fecdora 19. 1.3.1 will be in EL7. We are not planning to provide it in EPEL7 at this time. Thanks, that makes sense. And if epel6 contains patches that have not been fully tested and I should avoid it in production but how do I get the admin server, console etc? There is a distinction between epel6 and the official EPEL6. What we call 389-ds-base in epel6 is not really the official EPEL6 repository. It is an individual developer provided and supported fedorapeople (and now copr) repository strictly for those who want to (or must) be on the bleeding edge of the 1.2.11 branch - those who absolutely require bug fixes or features that are present in the upstream 1.2.11 branch, but are not yet in the official EL6.5 389-ds-base package. I understand. I didn't catch the distinction between EPEL6 and epel6. Where is the (lowercase) epel6/copr repository? I know I've seen the fedora people repository in the past but I can't for the life of me find it (or copr) now. I see various pages but not the repository itself. http://port389.org/wiki/Download thanks for the clarifications, -morgan On Apr 3, 2014, at 10:53 AM, Michael Gettes get...@gmail.com wrote: I recognize 389 is a community project and asking for timelines can be problematic. Right now, I am sorta stuck between a rock and a hard place. In production, I am on 1.2.11.15 which has problems that are fixed by 1.2.11.28. I have 1.2.11.28 in test and fixes all my prod problems but introduces a new problem which makes it rather difficult to manage the environment and it would appear this will be corrected in 1.2.11.29. So, I am a little curious as to when we might see 29. I do see on the roadmap 29 has 4 closed and 5 active but no date set. Wouldn't this be a good time for Michael to consider 1.3.1? Sure, but we are not considering providing 1.3.1 rpms for EL6 at this time. That means building/packaging/repository/updating manually. thanks, -morgan -- 389 users mailing list 389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users -- 389 users mailing list 389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users -- 389 users mailing list 389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users -- 389 users mailing list 389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users
[389-users] Announcing 389 Directory Server version 1.2.11.29
389 Directory Server 1.2.11.29 The 389 Directory Server team is proud to announce 389-ds-base version 1.2.11.29. This release is only available in binary form for EL5 (EPEL5) and EL6 - see http://port389.org/wiki/Download#RHEL6/EPEL6 for more details. The new packages and versions are: * 389-ds-base-1.2.11.29-1 A source tarball is available for download at http://port389.org/sources/389-ds-base-1.2.11.29.tar.bz2 Highlights in 1.2.11.29 * several bug fixes Installation and Upgrade See http://port389.org/wiki/Download for information about setting up your yum repositories. To install, use *yum install 389-ds* yum install 389-ds After install completes, run *setup-ds-admin.pl* to set up your directory server. setup-ds-admin.pl To upgrade, use *yum upgrade* yum upgrade After upgrade completes, run *setup-ds-admin.pl -u* to update your directory server/admin server/console information. setup-ds-admin.pl -u See Install_Guide http://directory.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Install_Guide for more information about the initial installation, setup, and upgrade See Source http://directory.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Source for information about source tarballs and SCM (git) access. Feedback We are very interested in your feedback! Please provide feedback and comments to the 389-users mailing list: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users If you find a bug, or would like to see a new feature, file it in our Trac instance: https://fedorahosted.org/389 Detailed Changelog since 1.2.11.28 * Ticket 346 - version 4 Slow ldapmodify operation time for large quantities of multi-valued attribute values * Ticket 415 - winsync doesn't sync DN valued attributes if DS DN value doesn't exist * Ticket 417, 458, 47522 - Password Administrator Backport * Ticket 471 - logconv.pl tool removes the access logs contents if -M is not correctly used * Ticket 47369 - version2 - provide default syntax plugin * Ticket 47448 - Segfault in 389-ds-base-1.3.1.4-1.fc19 when setting up FreeIPA replication * Ticket 47455 - valgrind - value mem leaks, uninit mem usage * Ticket 47463 - IDL-style can become mismatched during partial restoration * Ticket 47492 - PassSync removes User must change password flag on the Windows side * Ticket 47516 - replication stops with excessive clock skew * Ticket 47538 - RFE: repl-monitor.pl plain text output, cmdline config options * Ticket 47587 - hard coded limit of 64 masters in agreement and changelog code * Ticket 47591 - entries with empty objectclass attribute value can be hidden * Ticket 47596 - attrcrypt fails to find unlocked key * Ticket 47623 - fix memleak caused by 47347 * Ticket 47627 - changelog iteration should ignore cleaned rids when getting the minCSN * Ticket 47627 - Fix replication logging * Ticket 47637 - rsa_null_sha should not be enabled by default * Ticket 47638 - Overflow in nsslapd-disk-monitoring-threshold on 32bit platform * Ticket 47640 - Fix coverity issues - part 3 * Ticket 47641 - 7-bit check plugin not checking MODRDN operation * Ticket 47642 - Windows Sync group issues * Ticket 47677 - Size returned by slapi_entry_size is not accurate * Ticket 47678 - modify-delete userpassword * Ticket 47692 - single valued attribute replicated ADD does not work * Ticket 47693 - Environment variables are not passed when DS is started via service * Ticket 47693 - Environment variables are not passed when DS is started via service * Ticket 47704 - invalid sizelimits in aci group evaluation * Ticket 47722 - rsearch filter error on any search filter * Ticket 47722 - Fixed filter not correctly identified * Ticket 47729 - Directory Server crashes if shutdown during a replication initialization * Ticket 47731 - A tombstone entry is deleted by ldapdelete * Ticket 47734 - Change made in resolving ticket #346 fails on Debian SPARC64 * Ticket 47735 - e_uniqueid fails to set if an entry is a conflict entry * Ticket 47737 - Under heavy stress, failure of turning a tombstone into glue makes the server hung * Ticket 47740 - Coverity Fixes (Mark - part 1) * Ticket 47740 - Coverity issue in 1.3.3 * Ticket 47740 - Crash caused by changes to certmap.c * Ticket 47740 - Fix coverity erorrs - Part 4 * Ticket 47740 - Fix coverity issues - Part 5 * Ticket 47740 - Fix coverity issues: null deferences - Part 6 * Ticket 47740 - Fix coverity issues(part 7) * Ticket 47743 - Memory leak with proxy auth control * Ticket 47748 - Simultaneous adding a user and binding as the user could fail in the password policy check * Ticket 47766 - Tombstone purging can crash the server if the backend is stopped/disabled * fix coverity 11915 - dead code - introduced with fix for ticket 346 Retrieved from http://directory.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/1.2.11.29; -- 389 users mailing list
Re: [389-users] 1.2.11.29 prediction?
On Apr 4, 2014, at 3:20 PM, Rich Megginson rmegg...@redhat.com wrote: On 04/04/2014 01:04 PM, Morgan Jones wrote: On Apr 3, 2014, at 5:11 PM, Rich Megginson rmegg...@redhat.com wrote: On 04/03/2014 02:56 PM, Morgan Jones wrote: On Apr 3, 2014, at 3:39 PM, Rich Megginson rmegg...@redhat.com wrote: On 04/03/2014 01:35 PM, Michael Gettes wrote: Yeah, I hear what you’re saying. 47758 is due to running bleeding edge, i get it. but i had to go there cuz I was having problems with objects getting messed up with .15 in production and even .25 in test and I went to .28 which had the SASL fix on top of .26 which fixed all object problems. The object problems were the emails I sent to the list indicating objects I couldn’t delete or modify and .28 fixed those problems. This is where i feel i was a little trapped and had to come forward to the bleeding edge. there was a method to my madness and didn’t this just willy nilly and hence where i was hoping for .29 to i might have a good mix of things - even if it was on the bleeding edge. i hope this makes sense. Yes, and we are working on fixing those issues in EL6.6. So perhaps when EL6.6 is released you will be able to use the OS packages. Rich et al, I've been following this thread with interest. I am however a little confused about the right place and version to get 389: you make a distinction between the source version (versions 1.2.11.28 and 1.3.1.16). Both are stable, 1.3.1 is just newer and potentially more bleeding edge? 1.3.1 also seems to not be available from either the OS or epel repositories. 1.2.11 branch is strictly maintenance - only the most critical patches. 1.3.1 branch is less strict - it may get new features. 1.3.1 is available for Fecdora 19. 1.3.1 will be in EL7. We are not planning to provide it in EPEL7 at this time. Thanks, that makes sense. And if epel6 contains patches that have not been fully tested and I should avoid it in production but how do I get the admin server, console etc? There is a distinction between epel6 and the official EPEL6. What we call 389-ds-base in epel6 is not really the official EPEL6 repository. It is an individual developer provided and supported fedorapeople (and now copr) repository strictly for those who want to (or must) be on the bleeding edge of the 1.2.11 branch - those who absolutely require bug fixes or features that are present in the upstream 1.2.11 branch, but are not yet in the official EL6.5 389-ds-base package. I understand. I didn't catch the distinction between EPEL6 and epel6. Where is the (lowercase) epel6/copr repository? I know I've seen the fedora people repository in the past but I can't for the life of me find it (or copr) now. I see various pages but not the repository itself. http://port389.org/wiki/Download Oh. I looked right over it. Thanks. -morgan -- 389 users mailing list 389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users
Re: Unable to get projector to work
On 2014-04-03 01:31, Henrik Frisk wrote: Hi all, I reaqlize that the info I'm giving here might be to little to give any good suggestions, but I'm giving it a try nevertheless. I have a MBP with the following graphics card: VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GK107M [GeForce GT 650M Mac Edition] (rev a1) I have no problem connecting to a second screen (VGA, Nouveau), but when I connect to a projector (VGA) it doesn't show up at all. No, I don't have the models of the two projectors I've tried with, but I did have the same problem with my other computer and Fedora 15 (that time I was running NVIDIA drivers). Am I missing something obvious here? I wasn't clever enough to look at Xorg.0.log yesterday when I tried the projector (I've been looking through it now but I can't seem to find the right place), but I will next time and perhaps I can provide better information. Best, /Henrik What version of Fedora are you running? On a PC, I just plug the projector in and it works in F18, F19 and F20. Is the Other computer a MBP as well? I wonder if there is some hardware issue that is being a pain if the monitor works and you unplug the monitor and then the projector and it doesn't without a reboot. Something that is detecting the projector and blocking the port. A quick scan of the web shows that this is also a problem for people using just macs. You may need special drivers for the mac. -- Free, full feature astronomy program at http://www.stellarium.org Free Office Suite at http://www.libreoffice.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Good tutorial on setting up a grid/cluster using fedora
On 3.4.2014 23:41, Adrian Sevcenco wrote: On 04/02/2014 09:54 PM, Bill Oliver wrote: Just to see if I can do it, I thought I'd set up a small grid/cluster using fedora. Does anybody know of a good step-by-step guide for this (preferably free and online :-) )? As for the answer to your initial inquiry i would highly recommend ROCKS Clusters that is based on CENTOS. it will automatically install and manage your nodes from a single point (the FrontEnd server)(with NFS shared home). I have tried ROCKS before (granted it was maybe 6 years ago) and it seems good if you have very lage number of nodes. If not then I would recommend setting the things yourself. Most programs run in scientific clusters use MPI for shared communication so you will just need MPI setup I would not waste time job management and such as long as there is only one person running on the cluster. Setting up maybe 10 to 20 machines with kickstart using fedora with openmpi, ssh-keys for easy access to nodes and nfs sharing form frontend shouldn't be that big job. You will take same amount time learning ROCKS and it will have lots of features you don't need. Also if you don't use the machines all the time and don't have the hardware yet it might be beneficial to use AWS nodes to do the calculations. In big HPC setups the real cost of the cluster usually comes from electricity consumption and cooling so you should factor these costs in when deciding what to do. -vpk -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: The GDM greeter does not offer KDE as desktop after installing the group KDE Plasma Workspaces
On 3 April 2014 12:53, Joachim Backes joachim.bac...@rhrk.uni-kl.de wrote: On 04/03/2014 12:33 PM, Martin Briza wrote: On Thu, 03 Apr 2014 11:36:02 +0200, Joachim Backes joachim.bac...@rhrk.uni-kl.de wrote: I installed the env group KDE Plasma Workspaces and expected that after logout KDE is offered as additional desktop env, but I don't see this if pressing the gear-wheel on the gdm login greeter. Any ideas? Kind regards Joachim Backes Quite possibly GDM only lists the new sessions when it starts, so try either restarting GDM (systemctl restart gdm.service) or rebooting. Everything necessary to start the session is in the kde-workspace package. yum install @kde-desktop solved my problem. IIUC, installing the KDE Plasma Workspaces group should have installed the kde-desktop group (among other mandatory groups). -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Good tutorial on setting up a grid/cluster using fedora
On 04/04/2014 09:18 AM, Veli-Pekka Kestilä wrote: On 3.4.2014 23:41, Adrian Sevcenco wrote: On 04/02/2014 09:54 PM, Bill Oliver wrote: Just to see if I can do it, I thought I'd set up a small grid/cluster using fedora. Does anybody know of a good step-by-step guide for this (preferably free and online :-) )? As for the answer to your initial inquiry i would highly recommend ROCKS Clusters that is based on CENTOS. it will automatically install and manage your nodes from a single point (the FrontEnd server)(with NFS shared home). I have tried ROCKS before (granted it was maybe 6 years ago) and it seems good if you have very lage number of nodes. If not then I would recommend setting the things yourself. Most programs run in scientific that would sum to: set up common authentication, common logging, monitoring, nfs shared home (optional but very useful), the resource manager and individual management of settings and packages of each worker node. But this is up to the admin preferences (i use a personal cluster with 4 nodes (32 cores) and from my point of view it saves me a lot of time instead administering each node by hand) (it takes 10 minutes to re-install all nodes with different settings and new updated packages) (for the 40 nodes grid cluster it takes the same 10 minutes ;) ) clusters use MPI for shared communication so you will just need MPI i dont know what is meaning of most .. in my world of high energy physics we use only distributed computing (so no MPI) setup I would not waste time job management and such as long as there is only one person running on the cluster. you might (i am sure you will) be hit by a lots of problems .. mpi does not have a knowledge of nodes and their capacities nor about their availability and status. also if you need to start multiple parallel jobs (eg. you have a 32 cores cluster. a job (on all 32 cores) will take 16 hours to complete. if you launch in the morning at 8 am, the job will will end at 0:00 so until the next morning the cluster will just sit idle) you will need a resource manager. Setting up maybe 10 to 20 machines with kickstart using fedora with openmpi, ssh-keys for easy access to nodes and nfs sharing form frontend shouldn't be that big job. You will take same amount time learning ROCKS and it will have lots of features you don't need. this is dependent of the previous experiences .. i use rocks without problems .. but i am using it for almost 10 years... YMMV Also if you don't use the machines all the time and don't have the hardware yet it might be beneficial to use AWS nodes to do the calculations. In big HPC setups the real cost of the cluster usually comes from electricity consumption and cooling so you should factor these costs in when deciding what to do. I cannot agree more! the advent of cheap IaaS clouds brings a lot of useful opportunities :) Adrian smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Unable to get projector to work
Hi, I'm unning Fedora 20, sorry I missed to put that in. Yes, my current laptop is also a MBP. Now, I did do a couple of reboots and tried both VGA and HDMI (mainly to make sure the projector's VGA port wasn't faulty, it is still connected to the display port on my laptop). I will look into the question of drivers. It seems to me that quite a few have had similar problems, also with PCs but you might be right that it is a Mac issue. I will check to see if I can figure it out. /Henrik On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 8:16 AM, Robin Laing me...@telusplanet.net wrote: On 2014-04-03 01:31, Henrik Frisk wrote: Hi all, I reaqlize that the info I'm giving here might be to little to give any good suggestions, but I'm giving it a try nevertheless. I have a MBP with the following graphics card: VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GK107M [GeForce GT 650M Mac Edition] (rev a1) I have no problem connecting to a second screen (VGA, Nouveau), but when I connect to a projector (VGA) it doesn't show up at all. No, I don't have the models of the two projectors I've tried with, but I did have the same problem with my other computer and Fedora 15 (that time I was running NVIDIA drivers). Am I missing something obvious here? I wasn't clever enough to look at Xorg.0.log yesterday when I tried the projector (I've been looking through it now but I can't seem to find the right place), but I will next time and perhaps I can provide better information. Best, /Henrik What version of Fedora are you running? On a PC, I just plug the projector in and it works in F18, F19 and F20. Is the Other computer a MBP as well? I wonder if there is some hardware issue that is being a pain if the monitor works and you unplug the monitor and then the projector and it doesn't without a reboot. Something that is detecting the projector and blocking the port. A quick scan of the web shows that this is also a problem for people using just macs. You may need special drivers for the mac. -- Free, full feature astronomy program at http://www.stellarium.org Free Office Suite at http://www.libreoffice.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora Scrolling Lag
On Thu, 2014-04-03 at 15:36 -0500, christopher marlow wrote: oh oops, I hope I didnt harm anything opened YUMEX and remove anything MATE- and installed XFCE and the fans are quiet and I am in firefox right now. Wonder why thats so weird. [Please don't top-post on the Fedora lists. See the Guidelines referenced at the end of every message] As long as you use yum (or yumex) you shouldn't do any harm. Just take a quick look over the proposed changes before confirming. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: in regard to my system fans picking up speed
On Thu, 2014-04-03 at 15:32 -0500, g wrote: on a couple of boxes, i leave side cover off for max air flow. In some cases, pun intended, that's actually not a good idea. With an enclosed space, it's supposedly designed to force airflow across the whole board (yeah, we know the cards get in the way). But with the side panel off, air goes the easiest route that it can, and some parts of the board can roast because air isn't forced over them. I rather like the newer cases that have a big, slow, quiet, fan, mounted on the side panel, that blows over the whole board. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: in regard to my system fans picking up speed
2014-04-03 20:42 GMT+02:00, g gel...@bellsouth.net: having several firefox tabs open is not as bad as having several firefox windows open. conditions of which you do not mention. when firefox gets over 30% of memory, best thing to do is to totally close firefox, watch top for it to clear out of memory and start it again. if you have tabs open that you wish to reopen, right click on a tab and select Bookmark All Tabs Edit - Preferences - General - When Firefox starts: Show my windows and tabs from last time. I think it's more practical than bookmarking all tabs if you just want to quickly quit and restart. Andras -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Unable to get projector to work
On Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 11:51:33AM +0200, Henrik Frisk wrote: Hi, I'm unning Fedora 20, sorry I missed to put that in. Yes, my current laptop is also a MBP. Now, I did do a couple of reboots and tried both Just for those of us who don't recognize the abbreviation, what is MBP??? -- Fred Smith -- fre...@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us - The Lord is like a strong tower. Those who do what is right can run to him for safety. --- Proverbs 18:10 (niv) - -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Unable to get projector to work
On 04/04/14 20:46, Fred Smith wrote: On Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 11:51:33AM +0200, Henrik Frisk wrote: Hi, I'm unning Fedora 20, sorry I missed to put that in. Yes, my current laptop is also a MBP. Now, I did do a couple of reboots and tried both Just for those of us who don't recognize the abbreviation, what is MBP??? Macbook Pro -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: in regard to my system fans picking up speed
On 04/04/14 06:43, Tim wrote: On Thu, 2014-04-03 at 15:32 -0500, g wrote: on a couple of boxes, i leave side cover off for max air flow. In some cases, pun intended, that's actually not a good idea.as with some cases, that is true. With an enclosed space, it's supposedly designed to force airflow across the whole board (yeah, we know the cards get in the way). But with the side panel off, air goes the easiest route that it can, and some parts of the board can roast because air isn't forced over them. in what i would estimate to be at least 90%, if not 99%, of fans set up by oem, fans flow air out of the case, not into case. as such, there is very little airflow distributed anywhere near what could be considered properly across board and components. kind of like oems know that airflow is not adequate and they are hoping for heat failure so they can sell newer and more systems. I rather like the newer cases that have a big, slow, quiet, fan, mounted on the side panel, that blows over the whole board. yes, mounting fan on side panel is better as it does allow for a larger fan. as for speed, i am hoping that the new fans are variable speed and controlled by temp sensors around memory and vlsi chips to increase fan speed when needed. sensors is a great routine that many need to learn to use. tho i do wonder about it sometimes and now is one of them. ]$ sensors coretemp-isa- Adapter: ISA adapter Core 0: +43.0 C (high = +86.0 C, crit = +100.0 C) Core 1: +43.0 C (high = +86.0 C, crit = +100.0 C) smsc47b397-isa-0480 Adapter: ISA adapter fan1: 1064 RPM fan2: 0 RPM fan3: 0 RPM fan4: 1005 RPM temp1: +58.0 C temp2: +43.0 C temp3: +28.0 C temp4: -128.0 C i do not know where/what 'temp4' is reading, but it tends to show a rather efficient heat sink. :-D -- peace out. in a world with out fences, who needs gates. tc.hago. g . -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: in regard to my system fans picking up speed
On 04/04/14 07:18, Andras Simon wrote: 2014-04-03 20:42 GMT+02:00, g gel...@bellsouth.net: having several firefox tabs open is not as bad as having several firefox windows open. conditions of which you do not mention. when firefox gets over 30% of memory, best thing to do is to totally close firefox, watch top for it to clear out of memory and start it again. if you have tabs open that you wish to reopen, right click on a tab and select Bookmark All Tabs Edit - Preferences - General - When Firefox starts: Show my windows and tabs from last time. which is all well and good if one desires to restart with last used tabs all the time. as for myself, i seldom wish to do so. I think it's more practical than bookmarking all tabs if you just want to quickly quit and restart. as above, not everyone wants to restart with previous tabs. besides, Bookmark All Tabs... does give one ability to build bookmarks for when one wishes to reopen them. plus, makes them available if one desires to send bookmarks to someone else. anyway, it is a moot point and another apples and oranges. -- peace out. in a world with out fences, who needs gates. tc.hago. g . -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Unable to get projector to work
On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 2:31 AM, Henrik Frisk fris...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I reaqlize that the info I'm giving here might be to little to give any good suggestions, but I'm giving it a try nevertheless. I have a MBP with the following graphics card: VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GK107M [GeForce GT 650M Mac Edition] (rev a1) I have no problem connecting to a second screen (VGA, Nouveau), but when I connect to a projector (VGA) it doesn't show up at all. No, I don't have the models of the two projectors I've tried with, but I did have the same problem with my other computer and Fedora 15 (that time I was running NVIDIA drivers). Since you can connect to a second screen, but not a projector, I assume the fault is with the projector. On some projectors, you need to tell the projector which of its inputs is plugged in (some can have VGA, HDMI, Display Port, USB, and so on). There's probably a button that will search all the inputs once you plug it in. However, more info would be helpful. 1. What Desktop Manager (GNOME, KDE, XFCE, ...) are you using? 2. What does the command $ xrandr say before and after you plug in the projector (and made sure that the projector knows which of its inputs is being used)? 3. Are you using the same cable that you used to successfully connect to a second screen? If not, is the cable bad? Am I missing something obvious here? I wasn't clever enough to look at Xorg.0.log yesterday when I tried the projector (I've been looking through it now but I can't seem to find the right place), but I will next time and perhaps I can provide better information. Best, /Henrik -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- Dale Dellutri -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Good tutorial on setting up a grid/cluster using fedora
On Thu, 2014-04-03 at 09:40 -0600, Greg Woods wrote: On Wed, 2014-04-02 at 21:34 +, Bill Oliver wrote: 1) Get a pixel and a small area around it (say the surrounding 100 pixels). 2) Do a contrast enhancement method called histogram equalization on that group of pixels. This will change the value of the pixel in question. Let's say that this process involves 500 high-level instructions. 3) Move to the next pixel. Do the same thing. If you have a 12-megapixel image (say, 11,760,000 pixels), that's 5,880,000,000 instructions. That 500 instruction block is impossible to parallelize well. However, each pixel is independent, so you can parallelize the work on each pixel easily. I remember back in the 80s implementing this on a microVAX GPX II. It took about 3 hours to do a 512x512 greyscale image by brute force. Then Henry Fuchs et al. developed the PixelPlanes machine, and Austin et al. implemented it on that -- it took about 4 seconds. Even today on my laptop with an i7, a brute-force contrast-limited adaptive histogram equalization on a 10 megapixel image takes a go get a cup of coffe time period. There are, of course, short cuts such as the Pizer-Cromartie algorithm, but they introduce interpolation artifacts. Sure, that's a good example of something that could benefit from parallel processing. But you still have to be careful. For instance, suppose you do have two different processors working on adjacent pixels in parallel. At some point, one of the pixels will be modified first. Depending on exactly when that happens, it can affect the final value of the second pixel, depending on whether the original or modified value of the first pixel is fetched when calculating the second. If done blindly, without any locking, this creates a race condition that will cause the final value of the two pixels to be indeterminate. That is to say, run the same code multiple times, and you might not get the exact same image out of it. There are certainly tools that would make it easy to distribute the same calculation over all the pixels of the image to multiple processors. But those tools will not magically provide the locking you would need to prevent one of the neighboring pixels from being modified while the value of one pixel is being calculated. And the locking code can be tricky, which is why it can't be completely automated. For instance, it would be easy to lock all the neighbor pixels while calculating the value of one pixel. But that would cause the calculation the neighboring pixels to be delayed, thus losing some of the benefit of parallelization. In practice, that example would probably be handled by using a temporary array to hold the output image so that the input image is never modified until the calculation is completely finished, then copying it back into place. But if your code doesn't already do that, it would have to be modified to do it that way. Another trivial example to illustrate the point. There are, in fact, tools that can analyze code and point out constructs that might prevent parallelization, or suggest places that could benefit from parallelization, but use of those tools is not 100% automatic and the ones that are used here are (I believe) proprietary and not cheap. I don't know if there are similar open source tools, but in any case, these tools provide suggestions, but they don't change the code for you. It is unlikely that any significant calculation could be parallelized with zero work. For our users, the investment of time in parallelizing code usually pays off, because this will help their big simulations run much faster, thus saving them time in the long run. We actually have a User Services section which employs people who specialize in helping users write and modify code to maximize performance on our massively parallel supercomputing system. --Greg Rendering (AFAIK) doesn't really require the tight interconnection and coordination of processes that generally characterizes HPC. You can parallelize trivially by treating each frame as a single job--the work per frame is small compared to the whole job, and each frame is independent of the others, so you'll get near perfect speedup that way. We usually call this type of load (lots of relatively small, independent tasks) high-throughput computing (HTC). One HTC tool is HTCondor (Fedora 20 RPM currently condor-8.1.1-0.3.fc20.x86_64.rpm, more info at http://research.cs.wisc.edu/htcondor/). HTCondor manages the submission of large numbers of independent tasks to distributed computers and the collection of results. It also manages the load on machines that are used interactively, harvesting idle cycles but not interfering with interactive use. -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or
Re: The GDM greeter does not offer KDE as desktop after installing the group KDE Plasma Workspaces
Ahmad Samir wrote: On 3 April 2014 12:53, Joachim Backes joachim.bac...@rhrk.uni-kl.de wrote: On 04/03/2014 12:33 PM, Martin Briza wrote: On Thu, 03 Apr 2014 11:36:02 +0200, Joachim Backes joachim.bac...@rhrk.uni-kl.de wrote: I installed the env group KDE Plasma Workspaces and expected that after logout KDE is offered as additional desktop env, but I don't see this if pressing the gear-wheel on the gdm login greeter. Any ideas? Kind regards Joachim Backes Quite possibly GDM only lists the new sessions when it starts, so try either restarting GDM (systemctl restart gdm.service) or rebooting. Everything necessary to start the session is in the kde-workspace package. yum install @kde-desktop solved my problem. IIUC, installing the KDE Plasma Workspaces group should have installed the kde-desktop group (among other mandatory groups). Issue is being tracked here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1084445 Indeed, it seems yum treats kde-desktop-environment (of which kde-desktop is a member) differently, not sure exactly how yet. -- Rex -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
honestly, what in the name of mutt is so slow about fedora rawhide?
following up on my recent posts about how painfully, excruciatingly, nad-grindingly, thigh-suckingly slow firefox is on fedora rawhide, well, nothing's changed. when i do something as simple as switch tabs, i can go fix myself a martini while waiting. so ... what can i do to debug this? i'm using a non-debug kernel, i have nothing else of any significance running, top doesn't show anything else hogging resources ... so now what? if i recall correctly, fedora 20 worked just fine, while i wouldn't wish fedora rawhide on someone holding me up at gunpoint. please ... thoughts? rday -- Robert P. J. Day Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA http://crashcourse.ca Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday LinkedIn: http://ca.linkedin.com/in/rpjday -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: honestly, what in the name of mutt is so slow about fedora rawhide?
On Fri, 2014-04-04 at 17:16 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote: following up on my recent posts about how painfully, excruciatingly, nad-grindingly, thigh-suckingly slow firefox is on fedora rawhide, Wrong list. Post this to the Fedora Test list. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: honestly, what in the name of mutt is so slow about fedora rawhide?
On 04/04/14 23:16, Robert P. J. Day wrote: following up on my recent posts about how painfully, excruciatingly, nad-grindingly, thigh-suckingly slow firefox is on fedora rawhide, well, nothing's changed. when i do something as simple as switch tabs, i can go fix myself a martini while waiting. so ... what can i do to debug this? i'm using a non-debug kernel, i have nothing else of any significance running, top doesn't show anything else hogging resources ... so now what? if i recall correctly, fedora 20 worked just fine, while i wouldn't wish fedora rawhide on someone holding me up at gunpoint. please ... thoughts? rday Have you tried other browsers for example google-chrome? -- Erik -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Unable to get projector to work
On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 4:26 PM, Dale Dellutri daledellu...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 2:31 AM, Henrik Frisk fris...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I reaqlize that the info I'm giving here might be to little to give any good suggestions, but I'm giving it a try nevertheless. I have a MBP with the following graphics card: VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GK107M [GeForce GT 650M Mac Edition] (rev a1) I have no problem connecting to a second screen (VGA, Nouveau), but when I connect to a projector (VGA) it doesn't show up at all. No, I don't have the models of the two projectors I've tried with, but I did have the same problem with my other computer and Fedora 15 (that time I was running NVIDIA drivers). Since you can connect to a second screen, but not a projector, I assume the fault is with the projector. On some projectors, you need to tell the projector which of its inputs is plugged in (some can have VGA, HDMI, Display Port, USB, and so on). There's probably a button that will search all the inputs once you plug it in. However, more info would be helpful. 1. What Desktop Manager (GNOME, KDE, XFCE, ...) are you using? 2. What does the command $ xrandr say before and after you plug in the projector (and made sure that the projector knows which of its inputs is being used)? 3. Are you using the same cable that you used to successfully connect to a second screen? If not, is the cable bad? I'm using Gnome. I don't have access to a projector here but as I wrote in my original post I will make sure to get more info next time I have. The input port, nor the cable would have been the issue as I tried both different ports and different cables. I will get back with more info! Thanks for the help so far. /Henrik -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: honestly, what in the name of mutt is so slow about fedora rawhide?
On 04/05/14 05:16, Robert P. J. Day wrote: following up on my recent posts about how painfully, excruciatingly, nad-grindingly, thigh-suckingly slow firefox is on fedora rawhide, well, nothing's changed. when i do something as simple as switch tabs, i can go fix myself a martini while waiting. so ... what can i do to debug this? i'm using a non-debug kernel, i have nothing else of any significance running, top doesn't show anything else hogging resources ... so now what? if i recall correctly, fedora 20 worked just fine, while i wouldn't wish fedora rawhide on someone holding me up at gunpoint. please ... thoughts? Must not be a general problem since. [egreshko@f20kde ~]$ cat /etc/fedora-release Fedora release 21 (Rawhide) [egreshko@f20kde ~]$ rpm -q firefox firefox-28.0-3.fc21.x86_64 [egreshko@f20kde ~]$ uname -a Linux f20kde 3.15.0-0.rc0.git7.1.fc21.x86_64 #1 SMP Thu Apr 3 01:09:55 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux And all is running just fine for me. I think others have said the same thing on the testing list where this issue should be addressed. I suppose you've already tried creating a new/clean user and have the same problem? -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: honestly, what in the name of mutt is so slow about fedora rawhide?
On 04/05/14 03:16, Robert P. J. Day wrote: following up on my recent posts about how painfully, excruciatingly, nad-grindingly, thigh-suckingly slow firefox is on fedora rawhide, well, nothing's changed. when i do something as simple as switch tabs, i can go fix myself a martini while waiting. so ... what can i do to debug this? i'm using a non-debug kernel, i have nothing else of any significance running, top doesn't show anything else hogging resources ... so now what? if i recall correctly, fedora 20 worked just fine, while i wouldn't wish fedora rawhide on someone holding me up at gunpoint. please ... thoughts? as mentioned, have you tried a new profile? SWAG #1. have tried removing current firefox installation and installed rawhide or earlier version? SWAG #2. open Browser Console ctrl+shift+j, select [Clear] button, restart firefox, try opening tabs, after they open, ctrl+shift+j to see if anything shows. -- peace out. in a world with out fences, who needs gates. tc.hago. g . -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: in regard to my system fans picking up speed
On Fri, 2014-04-04 at 09:22 -0500, g wrote: not everyone wants to restart with previous tabs. Yes, sometimes you stopped browsing because one or more websites brought the thing to its knees, and you don't want to resume that. Some browsers have a menu option to resume previous browsing session. So, after you've started a fresh browsing session, you can use that option and pick up from where you left off. Bookmarking's all very well and good, but it's easy to amass so many bookmarks that you can't make head nor tail of them. It's not helped by websites with useless page titles. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
CPU / GPU fan control
Hi, i didn't get any answer regarding the FAN control of my CPU/GPU to avoid it to run at 100% all the time, when i'm just watching a movie or reading on internet. where can find some good information about it ? i read something about powersaving tool with thinkfan but i don't know why it doesn't seem to work...and powertools are terminal commands as far as i understood. so have you already solved something like that before ? does it really work ? thx. -- Alain --- Windows 7 x64 / Fedora 20 x64 MySQL 5.6.x Apache 2.4.7 / OpenSSL 1.0.1c Tomcat 7.17 PHP 5.5 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: honestly, what in the name of mutt is so slow about fedora rawhide?
On Fri, 4 Apr 2014 17:16:42 -0400 (EDT) Robert P. J. Day rpj...@crashcourse.ca wrote: following up on my recent posts about how painfully, excruciatingly, nad-grindingly, thigh-suckingly slow firefox is on fedora rawhide, well, nothing's changed. when i do something as simple as switch tabs, i can go fix myself a martini while waiting. so ... what can i do to debug this? i'm using a non-debug kernel, i have nothing else of any significance running, top doesn't show anything else hogging resources ... so now what? if i recall correctly, fedora 20 worked just fine, while i wouldn't wish fedora rawhide on someone holding me up at gunpoint. please ... thoughts? The flash plugin is infamous for doing this. -- Susi Lehtola Fedora Project Contributor jussileht...@fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org