Re: How did Calligra* get installed on my computer and how do I remove it ?

2020-02-07 Thread JD

On 2/6/2020 5:28 PM, linux guy wrote:
I have a bunch of Calligra apps installed on my computer. I don't 
remember installing them.   I want to remove them.   I cannot figure 
out how and where they got installed.



Appears to be a KDE application.
Have you ever installed the KDE Plasma Desktop spin?
<https://spins.fedoraproject.org/kde/>

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Re: F30 Thunderbird format question

2019-07-11 Thread JD
On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 5:08 PM Stephen Morris 
wrote:

>
> On 11/7/19 1:48 pm, Ed Greshko wrote:
>
> On 7/11/19 11:39 AM, JD wrote:
>
> Writing a new message always starts the format in "Pararaph" mode
>
> instead of  "Body Text"
>
> And this leads to the messages being double spaced.
>
> How can I change it so it will default to Body Text every time?
>
> Thanx!
>
> Preferences-->Composition (find the check-box)
>
> Hi,
> Just one question on this, having unchecked that check box. In the
> 'Send Options' settings the version of Thunderbird I am using has 'Send
> Messages in Plain Text if Possible' selected by default, is plain text the
> preferred format for messages to this list or is html the preferred format?
>
> regards,
> Steve
>
> I think plain text is the preferred format.
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Re: F30: Suspend to disk - and then reboot does not restore the suspended session.

2019-07-11 Thread JD
I click on the "Shut Down The Computer" icon on the
mate panel, and select hibernate.

So, please provide for an example of how to mod
the grub menu to hibernate correctly.


On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 12:17 PM Samuel Sieb  wrote:

> On 7/11/19 9:05 AM, JD wrote:
> > You mean there is no util to do this for the user
> > Do the Fedora devs assume all users, newbies and old,
> > have to "KNOW" this in order to do suspend to disk and
> > be able to resume where they left off
>
> Hibernate wasn't really supported until very recently.  The installer
> would not setup the resume line for you.  I think it does now.  However,
> I thought systemd checked the requirements before allowing you to
> hibernate.  How are you triggering the hibernate to happen?
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Re: F30 Thunderbird format question

2019-07-11 Thread JD
Thanx Ed! That did it.

On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 10:33 PM Ed Greshko  wrote:

> On 7/11/19 11:39 AM, JD wrote:
> > Writing a new message always starts the format in "Pararaph" mode
> >
> > instead of  "Body Text"
> >
> > And this leads to the messages being double spaced.
> >
> > How can I change it so it will default to Body Text every time?
> >
> > Thanx!
>
>
> Preferences-->Composition (find the check-box)
>
> --
> Right: I dislike the default color scheme Wrong: What idiot picked the
> default color scheme
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Re: F30: Suspend to disk - and then reboot does not restore the suspended session.

2019-07-11 Thread JD
You mean there is no util to do this for the user
Do the Fedora devs assume all users, newbies and old,
have to "KNOW" this in order to do suspend to disk and
be able to resume where they left off

How about posting an example of this in the Fedoraproject's
"How to ." pages?


On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 10:33 PM Samuel Sieb  wrote:

> On 7/10/19 8:41 PM, JD wrote:
> > What is the fix for this?
>
> You have "reboot" in the subject.  I'll assume you just mean that you
> turn it back on.
>
> Check the kernel cmdline to verify that there is a resume option and
> that the indicated block device is the active swap.
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rpmfusion nonfree tainted ....

2019-07-10 Thread JD

Installed the repo file, but 

dnf install \*-firmware

yields

rror: Transaction check error:
  file /lib/firmware/v4l-cx2341x-dec.fw conflicts between attempted 
installs of ivtv-firmware-2:20080701-36.fc30.noarch and 
dvb-firmware-20170329-4.git3fef04a.fc30.noarch
  file /lib/firmware/v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw conflicts between attempted 
installs of ivtv-firmware-2:20080701-36.fc30.noarch and 
dvb-firmware-20170329-4.git3fef04a.fc30.noarch
  file /lib/firmware/v4l-cx2341x-init.mpg conflicts between attempted 
installs of ivtv-firmware-2:20080701-36.fc30.noarch and 
dvb-firmware-20170329-4.git3fef04a.fc30.noarch
  file /lib/firmware/v4l-pvrusb2-24xxx-01.fw conflicts between 
attempted installs of ivtv-firmware-2:20080701-36.fc30.noarch and 
dvb-firmware-20170329-4.git3fef04a.fc30.noarch
  file /lib/firmware/v4l-pvrusb2-29xxx-01.fw conflicts between 
attempted installs of ivtv-firmware-2:20080701-36.fc30.noarch and 
dvb-firmware-20170329-4.git3fef04a.fc30.noarch

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F30: Suspend to disk - and then reboot does not restore the suspended session.

2019-07-10 Thread JD

What is the fix for this?


Thanx!!
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F30 Thunderbird format question

2019-07-10 Thread JD

Writing a new message always starts the format in "Pararaph" mode

instead of  "Body Text"

And this leads to the messages being double spaced.

How can I change it so it will default to Body Text every time?

Thanx!
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Re: Failed to upgrade to F-30

2019-07-10 Thread JD


On 7/10/19 8:27 PM, stan via users wrote:

On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 14:14:28 -0600
JD  wrote:
  

Justtried to download some things that are on rpmfusion. I got
several lines of the type:

Public key for x265-libs-3.0-2.fc30.x86_64.rpm is not installed.
Failing package is: x265-libs-3.0-2.fc30.x86_64
   GPG Keys are configured as:
file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-rpmfusion-free-fedora-30

https://rpmfusion.org/Configuration

Also:
# dnf groupupdate multimedia sound-and-video 
--setop="install_weak_deps=False" --exclude=PackageKit-gstreamer-plugin
Last metadata expiration check: 0:18:27 ago on Thu 11 Jul 2019 03:11:51 
AM Boise.

No match for group package "PackageKit-gstreamer-plugin"
I am no longer gettng the GPG problem.
Thanx for the tip.


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Re: Failed to upgrade to F-30

2019-07-10 Thread JD


On 7/10/19 8:27 PM, stan via users wrote:

On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 14:14:28 -0600
JD  wrote:
  

Justtried to download some things that are on rpmfusion. I got
several lines of the type:

Public key for x265-libs-3.0-2.fc30.x86_64.rpm is not installed.
Failing package is: x265-libs-3.0-2.fc30.x86_64
   GPG Keys are configured as:
file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-rpmfusion-free-fedora-30

https://rpmfusion.org/Configuration


# dnf groupupdate core
Last metadata expiration check: 0:16:03 ago on Thu 11 Jul 2019 03:11:51 
AM Boise.

No match for group package "lsvpd"
No match for group package "powerpc-utils"





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rpmfusion still broken

2019-07-10 Thread JD

# dnf -y install smplayer
Last metadata expiration check: 5:42:42 ago on Wed 10 Jul 2019 08:11:20 
PM Boise.

Dependencies resolved.
===
 Package  Architecture Version 
Repository  Size

===
Installing:
 smplayer x86_64 19.5.0-1.fc30 
rpmfusion-free-updates 3.7 M

Upgrading:
 x264-libs    x86_64 0.157-8.20190303git72db437.fc30 
rpmfusion-free-updates 610 k
 x265-libs    x86_64 3.0-2.fc30 
rpmfusion-free 1.8 M

Installing dependencies:
 compat-lua-libs  x86_64 5.1.5-13.fc30 
fedora 160 k
 ladspa   x86_64 1.13-22.fc30 
fedora  45 k
 libaom   x86_64 1.0.0-6.20180925gitd0076f5.fc30 
fedora 1.3 M
 libshaderc   x86_64 2018.0-2.fc30 
fedora 719 k
 libvmaf  x86_64 1.3.9-2.20180914gita654f6f.fc30 
fedora 362 k
 rubberband   x86_64 1.8.2-2.fc30 
fedora 184 k
 spirv-tools-libs x86_64 2019.1-1.fc30 
fedora 1.1 M
 uchardet x86_64 0.0.6-8.fc30 
fedora  89 k
 mpv  x86_64 0.29.1-6.fc30 
rpmfusion-free-updates 1.1 M
 ffmpeg-libs  x86_64 4.1.3-2.fc30 
rpmfusion-free 6.8 M
 libavdevice  x86_64 4.1.3-2.fc30 
rpmfusion-free  69 k


Transaction Summary
===
Install  12 Packages
Upgrade   2 Packages

Total size: 18 M
Total download size: 5.0 M
Downloading Packages:
[SKIPPED] ladspa-1.13-22.fc30.x86_64.rpm: Already downloaded
[SKIPPED] libaom-1.0.0-6.20180925gitd0076f5.fc30.x86_64.rpm: Already 
downloaded

[SKIPPED] libshaderc-2018.0-2.fc30.x86_64.rpm: Already downloaded
[SKIPPED] libvmaf-1.3.9-2.20180914gita654f6f.fc30.x86_64.rpm: Already 
downloaded

[SKIPPED] rubberband-1.8.2-2.fc30.x86_64.rpm: Already downloaded
[SKIPPED] spirv-tools-libs-2019.1-1.fc30.x86_64.rpm: Already downloaded
[SKIPPED] ffmpeg-libs-4.1.3-2.fc30.x86_64.rpm: Already downloaded
[SKIPPED] libavdevice-4.1.3-2.fc30.x86_64.rpm: Already downloaded
[SKIPPED] x264-libs-0.157-8.20190303git72db437.fc30.x86_64.rpm: Already 
downloaded

[SKIPPED] x265-libs-3.0-2.fc30.x86_64.rpm: Already downloaded
(11/14): uchardet-0.0.6-8.fc30.x86_64.rpm 149 kB/s |  89 kB 00:00
(12/14): compat-lua-libs-5.1.5-13.fc30.x86_64.rpm 246 kB/s | 160 kB 
00:00

(13/14): mpv-0.29.1-6.fc30.x86_64.rpm 492 kB/s | 1.1 MB 00:02
(14/14): smplayer-19.5.0-1.fc30.x86_64.rpm 1.3 MB/s | 3.7 MB 00:02
---
Total 972 kB/s | 5.0 MB 00:05
warning: 
/var/cache/dnf/rpmfusion-free-updates-c9c282509e45419b/packages/mpv-0.29.1-6.fc30.x86_64.rpm: 
Header V3 RSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID c0aeda6e: NOKEY
RPM Fusion for Fedora 30 - Free - 
Updates  0.0  B/s |   0  
B 00:00

RPM Fusion for Fedora 30 - Free 0.0  B/s |   0  B 00:00
The GPG keys listed for the "RPM Fusion for Fedora 30 - Free - Updates" 
repository are already installed but they are not correct for this package.
Check that the correct key URLs are configured for this repository.. 
Failing package is: mpv-0.29.1-6.fc30.x86_64
 GPG Keys are configured as: 
file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-rpmfusion-free-fedora-30
Public key for smplayer-19.5.0-1.fc30.x86_64.rpm is not installed. 
Failing package is: smplayer-19.5.0-1.fc30.x86_64
 GPG Keys are configured as: 
file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-rpmfusion-free-fedora-30
The GPG keys listed for the "RPM Fusion for Fedora 30 - Free" repository 
are already installed but they are not correct for this package.
Check that the correct key URLs are configured for this repository.. 
Failing package is: ffmpeg-libs-4.1.3-2.fc30.x86_64
 GPG Keys are configured as: 
file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-rpmfusion-free-fedora-30
Public key for libavdevice-4.1.3-2.fc30.x86_64.rpm is not installed. 
Failing package is: libavdevice-4.1.3-2.fc30.x86_64
 GPG Keys are configured as: 
file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-rpmfusion-free-fedora-30
Public key for x264-libs-0.157-8.20190303git72db437.fc30.x86_64.rpm is 
not installed. Failing package is: 
x264-libs-0.157-8.20190303git72db437.fc30.x86_64
 GPG Keys are configured as: 
file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-rpmfusion-free-fedora-30
Public key for x265-libs-3.0-2.fc30.x86_64.rpm is not installed. Failing 
package is: x265-libs-3.0-2.fc30.x86_64
 GPG Keys are configured a

Re: What to do instead of using rc.local?

2019-07-10 Thread JD


On 7/10/19 5:46 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 7/11/19 6:45 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 7/10/19 3:35 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 07/10/2019 02:37 PM, Alessio wrote:

On Wed, Jul 10, 2019, 9:04 PM sixpack13 mailto:sixpac...@online.de>> wrote:

     wasn't su disallowed during the last fedora upgrades ?

No.
As far as I know only root is locked by default (at least on Fedora 
Workstation). Aka
you can't su to root. But you are able to use Switch to any other (not locked) 
User,
as usual.


Is there a way to undo this noxious action?  Because if not, I'll be migrating 
both of
my computers to CentOs.

So much overreaction to incorrect information.  Yes, by default, the root 
password is
locked, which has been the case for a long time.  The installer lets you set it 
if you
want.  There is no change to su or sudo.  As always, if the root password is 
disabled,
you can't use su to get to root.  But again, as always, sudo will still work if 
your
user account is set as an administrator (i.e. part of wheel group).  And ssh to 
root
will work if you setup a key.

I don't have a running Workstation instance at the moment.  However, I seem to 
recall if
one is hard-up about using "su -" they can "sudo passwd root" and create a pw and 
then "su
-" will function as before.


I tried it Ed.

No go.

It keeps saying that authentication failed.

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Re: Failed to upgrade to F-30

2019-07-10 Thread JD



On 7/9/19 5:38 PM, sixpack13 wrote:

...
file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-rpmfusion-nonfree-fedora-30

...

If they are downloaded, where are they located??


see above !

P.S.
rpmfusion is ONLINE again !

try
sudo dnf upgrade rpmfusion-\*

Justtried to download some things that are on rpmfusion. I got
several lines of the type:

Public key for x265-libs-3.0-2.fc30.x86_64.rpm is not installed. Failing 
package is: x265-libs-3.0-2.fc30.x86_64
 GPG Keys are configured as: 
file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-rpmfusion-free-fedora-30

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Re: What to do instead of using rc.local?

2019-07-10 Thread JD



On 7/10/19 12:16 PM, sixpack13 wrote:

wasn't su disallowed during the last fedora upgrades ?

Well, this is a show stopper for me and for many other people.

I do not think I will be upgrading the other machines to F30.
More likely to a previous release that DOES allow secure su and secure sudo.
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Re: Failed to upgrade to F-30

2019-07-10 Thread JD



On 7/10/19 12:03 PM, rwar...@gmx.de wrote:

On 10.07.19 19:23, JD wrote:


On 7/9/19 5:38 PM, sixpack13 wrote:

...
file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-rpmfusion-nonfree-fedora-30

...

If they are downloaded, where are they located??


see above !

P.S.
rpmfusion is ONLINE again !

try
sudo dnf upgrade rpmfusion-\*

OK, so I did as you asked to disable rpmfusion, and retry the
upgrade to fc30.
It worked, and I am booted as the regular user.
HOWEVER 
I am UNABLE to su, unable to sudo .
Booting into single user, I am unable to login as root (password is
rejected: i.e. failed to authenticate).


login as root is in general dis-allowed and fixed set by gnome/fedora !

only user are and normally the first user got root rights to do sudo.

su is also rejected by gnome/fedora !



So, I booted the fc30 live DVD, and mounted the root drive, and chrooted
to the root drive
and set the root password. Rebooted, logged in as regular user, and
tried to su tried to sudo
Same authentication failure. How do I proceed now??? ...


It's in general best to discuss this topic on fedora mailling list,
cause I not ever got a proper answer for all topic's, esp. this
authenication problem.


During my updgrade anything has changed regarding authenication, so I
don't know what to answer here !

=> Fedora mailling list

Okay ?

--
refgards
;-)

Ronald


Well, I will wait and see if one or more of the developers will answer this.

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Re: Failed to upgrade to F-30

2019-07-09 Thread JD


On 7/9/19 4:01 PM, sixpack13 wrote:

- it seems rpmfusion is currently offline !

and I upgraded with command:

sudo dnf system-upgrade download --refresh --releasever=30 
--setopt='module_platform_id=platform:f30' --allowerasing

or without " ' " after "setopt=" and "f30"


Just retried.

It still says:

warning: 
/var/lib/dnf/system-upgrade/rpmfusion-nonfree-96b8b2e258c849c3/packages/rpmfusion-nonfree-appstream-data-30-1.20181021.fc30.noarch.rpm: 
Header V3 RSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID 1d14a795: NOKEY
Curl error (37): Couldn't read a file:// file for 
file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-rpmfusion-nonfree-fedora-30 
[Couldn't open file 
/etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-rpmfusion-nonfree-fedora-30]
The downloaded packages were saved in cache until the next successful 
transaction.

You can remove cached packages by executing 'dnf clean packages'.

So why is the  gpg key missing???

I thought the upgrade process downloads the gpg keys as well.

If they are downloaded, where are they located??


Thanx!!!





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Failed to upgrade to F-30

2019-07-09 Thread JD


Ran
dnf -y upgrade --refresh
dnf -y install dnf-plugin-system-upgrade
dnf -y system-upgrade download --refresh --best --allowerasing 
--releasever=30

dnf -y system-upgrade reboot
and got:

warning: 
/var/lib/dnf/system-upgrade/rpmfusion-free-529fb32abebfafff/packages/rpmfusion-free-appstream-data-30-1.20181021.fc30.noarch.rpm: 
Header V3 RSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID c0aeda6e: NOKEY
Curl error (37): Couldn't read a file:// file for 
file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-rpmfusion-free-fedora-30 [Couldn't 
open file /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-rpmfusion-free-fedora-30]

Error: system is not ready for upgrade

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Re: Mate on latest fedora releases

2019-07-06 Thread JD
On 7/6/19, francis.montag...@inria.fr  wrote:
>
> Hi.
>
> On Sat, 06 Jul 2019 11:46:23 -0400 JD wrote:
>
>> Installing latest mate desktop (from rpmfusion)  on
>> Fedora 30, 29, 28, 27 ...24, 23  22
>
>> DOES NOT work.
>
> Why from rpmfusion?
>
> The standard Fedora repos give mate since at least 2013 with:
>
>   dnf groupinstall "MATE Desktop"
>
> In addition, I only see mate-applet-streamer on rpmfusion.
>
> --
> francis

You are correct 
Reason I thought it came from rpmfusion is because I had just
installed and enabled rpmfusion repos, and thus thought
that's where it came from.
Sorry!
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Re: Mate on latest fedora releases

2019-07-06 Thread JD
Installing latest mate desktop (from rpmfusion)  on
Fedora 30, 29, 28, 27 ...24, 23  22

DOES NOT work.

It no longer displays the desktop items that used to be displayed in
previous versions of Fedora.

The mouse pointer (if it even appears   as it does not appear unless
the user miraculously is able to start a gui app - such as  a terminal),
and even then, it appears as a bold lower case x

So, would appreciate some info on how to remedy the situation.

Converting friends to fedora is becoming difficult when they ask me to install
the mate desktop.

Regards,

JD
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Re: Markdown viewer

2018-09-27 Thread JD



On 09/24/2018 04:47 PM, Cameron Simpson wrote:

On 24Sep2018 12:32, Patrick O'Callaghan  wrote:

I'm looking for a simple terminal-based viewer for Markdown files. I
*don't* want an editor. Think 'less', not 'emacs'. I don't mind if it
wants to pop up a window to show rich text, but it's not critical.

It seems remarkably* difficult to find such a beast.


I've been using mdv. For example, to check my Python module docstrings 
(which I do in Markdown) before release:


 distinfo cs.lex long_description|mdv -

"distinfo" is an alias associated with my release scripts, but the 
important thing here is that it empts the Markdown to stdout into "mkv".


Views nicely in a terminal.

Cheers,
Cameron Simpson 


I found this at 
https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/4140/markdown-viewer



I wrote a lightweight terminal markdown viewer in python, for CLI or as lib:

 * https://github.com/axiros/terminal_markdown_viewer


It supports e.g. tables, admonitions and tons of color themes.

Usage:
mdv [-t THEME] [-T C_THEME] [-x] [-l] [-L] [-c COLS] [-f FROM] [-m] 
[-M   DIR] [-H] [-A] [MDFILE]


Options:
MDFILE: Path to markdown file
-t THEME  : Key within the color ansi_table.json. 'random' accepted.
-T C_THEME: Theme for code highlight. If not set: Use THEME.
-l: Light background (not yet supported)
-L: Display links
-x: Do not try guess code lexer (guessing is a bit slow)
-f FROM   : Display FROM given substring of the file.
-m: Monitor file for changes and redisplay FROM given substring
-M DIR: Monitor directory for markdown file changes
-c COLS   : Fix columns to this (default: your terminal width)
-A: Strip all ansi (no colors then)
-H: Print html version
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Re: Where are the old repos of rpmfusion

2018-09-15 Thread JD



On 09/15/2018 11:05 AM, Jonathan Dieter wrote:

On Sat, 2018-09-15 at 11:02 -0600, JD wrote:

On 09/15/2018 10:38 AM, Jonathan Dieter wrote:

On Sat, 2018-09-15 at 09:53 -0600, JD wrote:

Fedora keeps old revisions of SW for EOL'ed releases.

Does rpmfusion have a link for these EOL'ed releases?

http://archive.rpmfusion.org/

Found the link here: https://lisas.de/~adrian/?p=1321

Jonathan

Hi
I browsed it.
It is not browsable for some strange reason.
For example, I click in the page


https://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/mm/publiclist/RPMFUSION%20free%20Fedora/28/x86_64/

and I get the same page, no matter on which release number I click.

Perhaps it's the mirror you're getting.  Try:
http://mirror1.hs-esslingen.de/pub/Mirrors/archive.rpmfusion.org/

Jonathan

Thank you Jonathan.
That worked!!!
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Re: Where are the old repos of rpmfusion

2018-09-15 Thread JD



On 09/15/2018 10:38 AM, Jonathan Dieter wrote:

On Sat, 2018-09-15 at 09:53 -0600, JD wrote:

Fedora keeps old revisions of SW for EOL'ed releases.

Does rpmfusion have a link for these EOL'ed releases?

http://archive.rpmfusion.org/

Found the link here: https://lisas.de/~adrian/?p=1321

Jonathan

Hi
I browsed it.
It is not browsable for some strange reason.
For example, I click in the page
https://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/mm/publiclist/RPMFUSION%20free%20Fedora/28/x86_64/
and I get the same page, no matter on which release number I click.
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Where are the old repos of rpmfusion

2018-09-15 Thread JD

Fedora keeps old revisions of SW for EOL'ed releases.

Does rpmfusion have a link for these EOL'ed releases?

Thanx!!
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Re: OT: backing up a DVD

2018-09-15 Thread JD
On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 4:16 PM, Ed Greshko  wrote:

> On 9/13/18 7:57 AM, JD wrote:
> > So, how in tarnation can I back up this DVD.
> > What tool can I use that will use dvdcss AND
> > back up the DVD???
>
> Acquired a DVD for testing.  Verified, didn't explore, that there is a
> problem with
> k3b reading the DVD even with libdvdcss-1.4.2-1.fc28 installed.
>
> However, if you don't need the DVD duplicated and can live with the
> contents ripped
> to a video file you can simply use "HandBrake".  Seems I must have
> done something like that when I purged my home of DVDs a few years back.
>
> Anyway, I just used HandBrake to create a WINGSPAN.m4v from a DVD.  The
> DVD contains
> 2 videos and the HandBrake GUI's menu finds both and
> you can select which one to work on from a drop-down menu.  I put the
> movie on my NAS
> and accessed it from my TV over the network.  Also, I could,
> put the file on a USB drive and plug that into my TV.  No need for a DVD
> player.
>
> HandBrake is available in the rpmfusion-free repo and libdvdcss is in the
> rpmfusion-free-tainted repo
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Paul-McCartney-Wingspan-Intimate-
> Portrait/dp/B5QJHL   (was
> one of the DVD's a friend lent me)
>

Well, I have been looking for a version of HandBrake that will compile and
run on
one of my older linux machines (F20), to no avail.
n But I found a friend who had SW on aMS Wndows machine, and he wass able
to copy it and put it on a flash drive for me.

Thanx to all who replied.
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Re: OT: backing up a DVD

2018-09-12 Thread JD



On 09/12/2018 07:03 PM, JD wrote:


On 09/12/2018 06:05 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 9/13/18 7:57 AM, JD wrote:

So, how in tarnation can I back up this DVD.
What tool can I use that will use dvdcss AND
back up the DVD???

Well, k3b has, under tools, "Rip Video DVD".

I recall using it in the past, but can't find a DVD in my home to test.

Using k3b - and dmesg shows 51 messages like this one
[212014.458325] blk_update_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 2443668

So, the dvd is bad?

But it plays flawlessly!!!


So far, k3b has only written 1251180544  bytes
and is unable to go past sector 610,928

So, I guess it is either css or physical damage.
But it is a brand new DVD, and I have not yet
taken it to my friend's place to watch together
on their huge 120 inch screen.


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Re: OT: backing up a DVD

2018-09-12 Thread JD


On 09/12/2018 06:05 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 9/13/18 7:57 AM, JD wrote:

So, how in tarnation can I back up this DVD.
What tool can I use that will use dvdcss AND
back up the DVD???

Well, k3b has, under tools, "Rip Video DVD".

I recall using it in the past, but can't find a DVD in my home to test.

Using k3b - and dmesg shows 51 messages like this one
[212014.458325] blk_update_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 2443668

So, the dvd is bad?

But it plays flawlessly!!!
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Re: OT: backing up a DVD

2018-09-12 Thread JD



On 09/12/2018 05:53 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 9/13/18 7:40 AM, JD wrote:


On 09/12/2018 04:39 PM, Cameron Simpson wrote:

On 13Sep2018 08:29, Cameron Simpson  wrote:

Regarding the DVD CSS stuff: I seem to recall from long ago that reading a CSS
DVD without the libdvdcss stuff to arrange decoding produced read issues, not
just garbled data. This might be that.

Ah, here we go. In the tar-1.30 source, src/create.c, around line 1104. The
"shrank...padding" message happens if tar gets a short read (not an I/O error).

So I think the VOB file read is very short. See if other tools can read that 
file,
since it is a mounted drive.

Cheers,
Cameron Simpson 

I tried that, and it is clear that tar is unable to read the drive. To wit:

$ ls -l  VTS_10_1.VOB
-r--------. 1 jd jd 1073739776 Mar 18  2013 VTS_10_1.VOB
$ cat VTS_10_1.VOB | wc -c
cat: /run/media/jd/JACK_REACHER/VIDEO_TS/VTS_10_1.VOB: Input/output error
4067328
So, the output file was padded by zeros instead of the real McCoys!!!
In other words, dvdcss screwed up royally, and I cannot use the backup
as replacement if my DVD gets seriously damaged by a bad player drive.
Just wonderbar


libdvdcss did not screw up at all.  "cat" is unaware of, and doesn't use, 
libdvdcss.

So, how in tarnation can I back up this DVD.
What tool can I use that will use dvdcss AND
back up the DVD???
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Re: OT: backing up a DVD

2018-09-12 Thread JD



On 09/12/2018 04:39 PM, Cameron Simpson wrote:

On 13Sep2018 08:29, Cameron Simpson  wrote:
Regarding the DVD CSS stuff: I seem to recall from long ago that 
reading a CSS DVD without the libdvdcss stuff to arrange decoding 
produced read issues, not just garbled data. This might be that.


Ah, here we go. In the tar-1.30 source, src/create.c, around line 
1104. The "shrank...padding" message happens if tar gets a short read 
(not an I/O error).


So I think the VOB file read is very short. See if other tools can 
read that file, since it is a mounted drive.


Cheers,
Cameron Simpson 

I tried that, and it is clear that tar is unable to read the drive. To wit:

$ ls -l  VTS_10_1.VOB
-r--------. 1 jd jd 1073739776 Mar 18  2013 VTS_10_1.VOB
$ cat VTS_10_1.VOB | wc -c
cat: /run/media/jd/JACK_REACHER/VIDEO_TS/VTS_10_1.VOB: Input/output error
4067328
So, the output file was padded by zeros instead of the real McCoys!!!
In other words, dvdcss screwed up royally, and I cannot use the backup
as replacement if my DVD gets seriously damaged by a bad player drive.
Just wonderbar

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Re: [OFF LIST] Re: OT: backing up a DVD

2018-09-12 Thread JD



On 09/11/2018 05:55 PM, Cameron Simpson wrote:

On 12Sep2018 07:13, Ed Greshko  wrote:

On 9/11/18 11:58 PM, JD wrote:

I have not been able to use k3b because it did not
make use of libdvdcss, so it always terminated in error.

Are you saying that it has been fixed


It isn't clear to me if your initial problem was related to reading 
or writing a DVD.


If it is libdvdcss related then he wants to read a video DVD.

Also, IIRC, several of the DVD reading libraries use libdvdcss in an 
opportunistic manner, meaning they're silent if it isn't present. JD, 
haveyou tried simply making sure libdvdcss is installed? You error 
message might be a side effect of the library being missing.


Cheers,
Cameron Simpson 


Thank you Cameron.
Yes it is indeed installed.
To wit:
$ ll /usr/lib64/libdvd*
lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 18 Jan 29  2017 /usr/lib64/libdvdcss.so
albeit, it is of a slightly older vintage.
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Re: [OFF LIST] Re: OT: backing up a DVD

2018-09-12 Thread JD



On 09/11/2018 05:13 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 9/11/18 11:58 PM, JD wrote:

I have not been able to use k3b because it did not
make use of libdvdcss, so it always terminated in error.

Are you saying that it has been fixed

It isn't clear to me if your initial problem was related to reading or writing 
a DVD.

That said, in another message you indicated that "Wodim works just fine".  
Well, when
it comes to k3b, it uses (at least on my system) wodim as its method
for cdrecord.  Check the settings in your k3b to verify what it is configured 
to use.

I've not had any issues with k3b in the past.  I think I no longer have a 
commercial
DVD to test as I stopped using those a few years ago.

This is the problem of responding to some responders that bring in
the use of some utils to do something other than what I had tried
to report. A responder brought up the names of those utils, and I
merely ascented that they do work. I should have alsos stated that
it was not what I was trying to do.
I  did state in my correction of my original post that I was tarring
from the directory on which the dvd was mounted to a hard drive
dir - and that the error message (if it really were an error) was indeed
from tar.
So, I was seeking to see if anyone knew how to prevent the condition
that ejected that error message.
Unfortunately, I have not seen anyone posting a panacea for it.
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Re: OT: backing up a DVD

2018-09-11 Thread JD



On 09/11/2018 04:14 AM, Dave Mitchell wrote:

On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 10:19:44AM +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:

Are you using only "dd" or are you also using "tar"?  I only ask since I've not 
seen
the message coming from "dd" but recall seeing it from "tar".

To expand on that:


 $ strings `which dd` | grep shrank

 $ strings `which tar` | grep shrank
 %s: File shrank by %s bytes; padding with zeros
 ...


and presumably the warning means that between stat()ing the file and
opening it and reading its contents, the size of the file got smaller.

So I think the OP is doing more than just 'dd'ing the raw DVD.

Sorry, I did respond and explained my mistake
to another responder that it was my bad.
I was TARing and I explained the commands I used.





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Re: OT: backing up a DVD

2018-09-11 Thread JD



On 09/11/2018 04:04 AM, Tony Nelson wrote:

On 18-09-10 22:27:00, ToddAndMargo wrote:
 ...

"dd" does not work on DVD's.  Use K3b instead:


dd is fine for /reading/ DVDs.  Something more (K3b or wodim or
growisofs) is needed to /write/ them.


Yes. Wodim works just fine.
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Re: OT: backing up a DVD

2018-09-11 Thread JD



On 09/10/2018 08:19 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 9/11/18 8:53 AM, JD wrote:

Using dd to back up a DVD (for in case dvd gets damaged), I am getting
frequent messages like
. File shrank by 1069672448 bytes; padding with zeros

So, the .VOB file copied to HD is all messed up
I do not know yet, because the process is still in progress.

In the past, I never had this issue, and I have seen many
of my dvd's and CD's get damaged when inserted into friend's
home entertainment centers, and had to rebuild them from HD backup.

Any clues how to prevent this message coming from dd ?

Are you using only "dd" or are you also using "tar"?  I only ask since I've not 
seen
the message coming from "dd" but recall seeing it from "tar".

My bad!!! I had multiple tar instances running.
And you are right. dd was in another window,
and somehow it stuck in my mind when I started
to type my message.
Yes, it IS tar.
The DVD is mounted as
/run/media/jd/MODERN_DESIGN_CONCEPTS
and I was taring it out by the commands
cd /run/media/jd/MODERN_DESIGN_CONCEPTS/VIDEO_TS
tar cf - . | tar -C /sdc5/backups/dvd/MODERN_DESIGN_CONCEPTS -xpvf -
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[OFF LIST] Re: OT: backing up a DVD

2018-09-11 Thread JD

Hi Todd and Margo,
I have not been able to use k3b because it did not
make use of libdvdcss, so it always terminated in error.

Are you saying that it has been fixed

Thanx!!

JD

On 09/10/2018 08:27 PM, ToddAndMargo wrote:

On 09/10/2018 05:53 PM, JD wrote:

Using dd to back up a DVD (for in case dvd gets damaged), I am getting
frequent messages like
. File shrank by 1069672448 bytes; padding with zeros

So, the .VOB file copied to HD is all messed up
I do not know yet, because the process is still in progress.

In the past, I never had this issue, and I have seen many
of my dvd's and CD's get damaged when inserted into friend's
home entertainment centers, and had to rebuild them from HD backup.

Any clues how to prevent this message coming from dd ?

Thanx


JD,

"dd" does not work on DVD's.  Use K3b instead:

 # dnf install k3b

k3b also lets you do a check after you burn your DVD.
Keeps the "coasters" to a mind roar.  You always
know when you have a good burn.

Also, consider using a flash drive.  Much faster
and easier to use than a DVD.

HTH,
-T
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OT: backing up a DVD

2018-09-10 Thread JD

Using dd to back up a DVD (for in case dvd gets damaged), I am getting
frequent messages like
. File shrank by 1069672448 bytes; padding with zeros

So, the .VOB file copied to HD is all messed up
I do not know yet, because the process is still in progress.

In the past, I never had this issue, and I have seen many
of my dvd's and CD's get damaged when inserted into friend's
home entertainment centers, and had to rebuild them from HD backup.

Any clues how to prevent this message coming from dd ?

Thanx
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Re: OT: fastest way to copy one drive to another

2018-09-08 Thread JD

Hello Cameron,
+1


On 09/08/2018 04:48 PM, Cameron Simpson wrote:

On 09Sep2018 06:45, Michael D. Setzer II  wrote:

On 8 Sep 2018 at 17:10, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

[...]

The link in the footer points to g4l, but nothing in your message
mentioning jetcat-mod makes that connection. Only an off-list message
from you explained it, and you then repeated the information on-list.


In my original message to the thread I specified that I had been the
maintainer of the g4l disk imaging project since 2004, and made some
comments. Later there was talk of using dd to do the copy, and I 
pulled the
one line from the 2000+ line script that specifically does the clone 
copy

process.

The entire project is on sourceforge with the source code. Project is
completely free, no paid options, no donations. Just an option that some
might find useful.

Wasn't trying to force it on anyone, and just sharing what I had seen 
over the

years.


As the one on the tar/cp side of this discussion, I'd like to support 
Michael here.


He did indeed say he was the g4l maintainer. And he was perfectly 
clear when he post his dd pipeline that it came from the g4l package. 
It isn't unreasonable at all that it uses a tool that is part of that 
same package.


There's any number of "progress reporting cat" type commands out 
there; I've got one of my own called prcat [1] (just a perl script 
accepting a commandline buffer size, no fancy threading or parallelism).


IMO there's little value in this bickering over an _example_ command 
line whose function is clear on inspection just because it has an odd 
but obviously equivalent to "cat" command in the middle. Particularly 
since nothing in this discussion is Fedora specific; it all applies to 
pretty much any Linux system and nearly applies to any UNIX system in 
general (such as the Mac I'm typing this on). Can we please go back to 
_technical_ discussion instead of this?


To satisfy the "no link to the code" people:
[1] https://bitbucket.org/cameron_simpson/css/src/tip/bin/prcat

Cheers,
Cameron Simpson 
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Re: OT: fastest way to copy one drive to another

2018-09-07 Thread JD



On 09/07/2018 03:34 PM, Michael D. Setzer II wrote:

On 7 Sep 2018 at 15:54, Ranjan Maitra wrote:

Date sent:  Fri, 7 Sep 2018 15:54:59 -0500
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To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
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On Fri, 7 Sep 2018 16:37:49 -0400 Tony Nelson  
wrote:


On 18-09-07 15:48:23, jdow wrote:


dd if=/dev/ of=/dev/ bs=1073741824
conv=sparse,noerror & pid=$!

bs=1M


Btw, do the drives have to be unmounted? Just making sure.

Drives should not be mounted at time, or changes could be made during the
copying process.

The line for the cloning process in my g4l is like this.
dd bs=1M if=$clonesource 2>/dev/null |jetcat-mod -f 5000 -p $clonesize
2>$progout |dd bs=1M of=$clonetarget 2>/dev/null &

Uses a dialog script to set the variables, and then runs the copy command in
background. The foreground script takes the data written to the progout file
and displays a progress bar via dialog.

Be very careful to make sure you copy the correct drive to the correct drive,
since if you get it wrong you loose it all.


Michael D. Setzer II,
What is the purpose of inserting the utility
jetcat-mod  between the 2 dd commands?

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Re: Time -

2018-08-28 Thread JD

Bob!!!
There are MANY ways to do this on a computer.

One such simple way is first convert the duration you are thinking of
to seconds, then issue this command to your shell

sleep xx   # where xx is the number of seconds
aplay  



On 08/28/2018 11:36 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote:
In the past if I wanted to time a process in the darkroom or the 
kitchen I had a wind up timer, twist the dial to 27 minutes or 
whatever I wanted and a bell would ring when that time had elapsed. 
Certainly by today a Fedora computer should be able to do that basic 
task forme.


I would be happy typing a line inxterm that would run aplay some.wav 
at the end of the period. Can anyone tell me how to do that?


Until recently I have used xfce4-timer but that has never been as 
convenient as I would like and recently I have had problems with it.


Any suggestions will be appreciated,

Bob


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Re: cpupower

2018-06-24 Thread JD



On 06/24/2018 04:45 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 06/24/2018 03:12 PM, JD wrote:

​I have enabled rc-local:
sudo systemctl enable rc-local
which is supposed to automagically execute /etc/rc.d/rc.local during 
bootup,
but for some strange reason, rc.local is not being automagcally 
executed,
even though (as I explained already, it is an executable shell script 
with

execute permissions set.

I have to run it by hand.


Strange.  Try putting echo statements in, with output directed to a 
file in /root that will tell you that each command has run or not.
Well, rc-local.service cannot be instrumented with echoes from the 
shell, which is run

with option -x in /etc/rc.d/rc.local

None of those commands are failing.
Please see my reply to Ed Geshko.
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Re: cpupower

2018-06-24 Thread JD



On 06/24/2018 04:38 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 06/25/18 05:43, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Sun, 2018-06-24 at 11:25 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 06/24/2018 10:55 AM, JD wrote:

On 06/24/2018 11:37 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 06/24/2018 10:27 AM, JD wrote:

But I do not want to do this loop every time I boot up.
I want to have set once and for all!!!

There's probably a proper way to do that, but until somebody finds it,
put that into a shell script and call it from rc.local.

So far, the ways I have found on google search have not survived
a reboot :(

That's why you use rc.local.  It's a shell script called at the end of
boot that you can use for any special or non-standard stuff you want or
need done.

Note that you now have to explicitly enable rc.local to make it run at
boot time:

# systemctl enable rc-local.service

Who told you that?  It is a "static" service and need not be enabled.

Before creation of an executable /etc/rc.d/rc.local file

[egreshko@f28k-b1 ~]$ systemctl status rc-local.service
● rc-local.service - /etc/rc.d/rc.local Compatibility
Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/rc-local.service; static; vendor 
preset:
disabled)
Active: inactive (dead)
  Docs: man:systemd-rc-local-generator(8)

After creation and rebooting without enabling.

● rc-local.service - /etc/rc.d/rc.local Compatibility
Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/rc-local.service; enabled-runtime; 
vendor
preset: disabled)
Active: active (exited) since Mon 2018-06-25 06:32:27 CST; 1min 30s ago
  Docs: man:systemd-rc-local-generator(8)
   Process: 652 ExecStart=/etc/rc.d/rc.local start (code=exited, 
status=0/SUCCESS)

Jun 25 06:32:27 f28k-b1.greshko.com systemd[1]: Starting /etc/rc.d/rc.local
Compatibility...
Jun 25 06:32:27 f28k-b1.greshko.com systemd[1]: Started /etc/rc.d/rc.local 
Compatibility.


Well, this is interesting:

# systemctl -l start rc-local
# echo $?
0
#
# systemctl -l status rc-local.service
rc-local.service - /etc/rc.d/rc.local Compatibility
   Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/rc-local.service; enabled)
   Active: active (exited) (Result: exit-code) since Sun 2018-06-24 
22:49:49 Boise; 32s ago
  Process: 17623 ExecStart=/etc/rc.d/rc.local start (code=exited, 
status=0/SUCCESS)

 Main PID: 17637 (code=exited, status=1/FAILURE)

Jun 24 22:49:49 localhost.localdomain systemd[1]: Started 
/etc/rc.d/rc.local Compatibility.
Jun 24 22:49:50 localhost.localdomain systemd[1]: rc-local.service: main 
process exited, code=exited, status=1/FAILURE


So, is there a way to get more detailed info on what caused the failure??

Thanx!










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Re: cpupower

2018-06-24 Thread JD
On Sun, Jun 24, 2018 at 12:25 PM, Joe Zeff  wrote:

> On 06/24/2018 10:55 AM, JD wrote:
>
>>
>> On 06/24/2018 11:37 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:
>>
>>> On 06/24/2018 10:27 AM, JD wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> But I do not want to do this loop every time I boot up.
>>>> I want to have set once and for all!!!
>>>>
>>>
>>> There's probably a proper way to do that, but until somebody finds it,
>>> put that into a shell script and call it from rc.local.
>>>
>>
>> So far, the ways I have found on google search have not survived
>> a reboot :(
>>
>
> That's why you use rc.local.  It's a shell script called at the end of
> boot that you can use for any special or non-standard stuff you want or
> need done.
> ___
>

​I have enabled rc-local:
sudo systemctl enable rc-local
which is supposed to automagically execute /etc/rc.d/rc.local during bootup,
but for some strange reason, rc.local is not being automagcally executed,
even though (as I explained already, it is an executable shell script with
execute permissions set.

I have to run it by hand.
​
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Re: cpupower

2018-06-24 Thread JD



On 06/24/2018 11:37 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 06/24/2018 10:27 AM, JD wrote:


But I do not want to do this loop every time I boot up.
I want to have set once and for all!!!


There's probably a proper way to do that, but until somebody finds it, 
put that into a shell script and call it from rc.local.


So far, the ways I have found on google search have not survived
a reboot :(
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cpupower

2018-06-24 Thread JD

Manpage of cpu power make no mention of the
selection of governor.
How can set the governor to be the user mode governor
instead of the performance governor and not the ondemand governor?

If I can permanently set that governor, next I want to
set the cpu frequency (for all cores) to 2134000Hz permanently.

Reason I am posting this is because the normal speed of the cores
is 2.8GHz, and that is causing numerous kerneloops interrupts (overheating).
Fans are at full speed all the time, as I can hear them :) :)

When I set the speed manually (as root) like this:
for i in 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8; do
echo2134000  > cpu$i/cpufreq/scaling_max_freq
done

then kerneloops are greatly reduced.
Every kerneloops is accompanied by mce:
So, it has to be the heat.

But I do not want to do this loop every time I boot up.
I want to have set once and for all!!!

Thanx!!!
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Re: Question about Mate DT

2018-06-08 Thread JD



On 06/07/2018 10:27 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 06/07/2018 03:51 PM, JD wrote:

I am having problems with mate DT.
If I leave the machine idle for a minute or two, (even with several 
windows of TB and FF open),
I end up losing the DT altogether. All Desktop icons and panels 
disappear.
Furthermore, even if I do not leave the machine idle (i.e. I am busy 
on the KB),
then if I decide to suspend to disk, and later on, turn on the 
machine and resume,

I have no DT, as if I had left the machine idle for a minute or two.
Is this caused by a setting? Which one?


Do the windows still function?  Can you move them around?  It sound 
like the window manager is crashing.  Have you checked the journal for 
any information like that?

All windows also disappear! :(
This is the first time I have seen this behaviour!!
So, I finally decided to disable all screen saver functions
by unchecking them in
System -> Preferences -> Look and feel -> Screen Saver

Thanx!!!
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Question about Mate DT

2018-06-07 Thread JD

Hi All,
I am having problems with mate DT.
If I leave the machine idle for a minute or two, (even with several 
windows of TB and FF open),

I end up losing the DT altogether. All Desktop icons and panels disappear.
Furthermore, even if I do not leave the machine idle (i.e. I am busy on 
the KB),
then if I decide to suspend to disk, and later on, turn on the machine 
and resume,

I have no DT, as if I had left the machine idle for a minute or two.
Is this caused by a setting? Which one?

Thanx!!!
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Re: Unable to lower cpu frequency

2018-05-17 Thread JD
You hit the nail on the head.
I found that the command line I was using contained the word performance.
Now, I am doing:
/bin/cpupower --cpu all frequency-set -u 2.00G

and cpu-info  is showing:
current CPU frequency is 1.60 GHz (asserted by call to hardware).
for both cpus.

This was necessary because of running ffmpeg alongside with
playing videos cause HW errors.
Even thought the kernel throttled the cpu, it did not help much.

Now, I do not get the HW errors and kernel ooops messages.


On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 10:00 AM, stan  wrote:

> On Tue, 15 May 2018 19:59:53 -0600
> JD  wrote:
>
> > # /bin/cpupower --cpu all frequency-set -g performance 2G
> > # /bin/cpupower --cpu all frequency-info | grep "current CPU
> > frequency is" current CPU frequency is 2.80 GHz (asserted by call to
> > hardware). current CPU frequency is 2.80 GHz (asserted by call to
> > hardware).
> >
> > Cpu can accept frquencies as low as 800MHz.
> >
> > So, does anyone have a more magical incantation to force the 2 cores
> > to run at 2.0 GHz?
>
> You could try adding --max?  I'm not sure what the default is, might be
> --min.
>
> When governor is set to performance, the CPU runs full out all the time.
> It is possible to change the governor on a running system, but I'm not
> sure how.  You could change it to one of the below other than
> performance, if it has been compiled into the kernel.  As you can see,
> I have only the ondemand governor in my kernel.
>
> These are the settings for my CPU, from boot/config-[]
> # DEVFREQ Governors
> CONFIG_DEVFREQ_GOV_SIMPLE_ONDEMAND=y
> # CONFIG_DEVFREQ_GOV_PERFORMANCE is not set
> # CONFIG_DEVFREQ_GOV_POWERSAVE is not set
> # CONFIG_DEVFREQ_GOV_USERSPACE is not set
> # CONFIG_DEVFREQ_GOV_PASSIVE is not set
>
>
> Also, IIRC, the setting of CPU frequency is usually done directly in the
> BIOS / firmware.  In the kernel docs they say that some CPUs can't be
> set from the kernel (but don't give a list).  i.e. the BIOS would be
> your only option if you have one of those, and it sounds like you
> might.
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Unable to lower cpu frequency

2018-05-15 Thread JD

# /bin/cpupower --cpu all frequency-set -g performance 2G
# /bin/cpupower --cpu all frequency-info | grep "current CPU frequency is"
  current CPU frequency is 2.80 GHz (asserted by call to hardware).
  current CPU frequency is 2.80 GHz (asserted by call to hardware).

Cpu can accept frquencies as low as 800MHz.

So, does anyone have a more magical incantation to force the 2 cores
to run at 2.0 GHz?
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Re: Kernel task 276 consumes 100% of io bandwidth on boo drive

2018-05-09 Thread JD



On 05/09/2018 06:24 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:

On 05/09/2018 04:55 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 05/09/2018 04:37 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:

On 05/09/2018 03:23 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:

From just that line, it looks like
there is no data transferred at all.  I've never understood what 100% of
I/O bandwidth means.  How is the maximum calculated?  Or does it mean
that out of all the data transferred, 100% came from this process?

That's not what it means. The first percentage is how much of that
task's execution time it spent being swapped in and out (0.00%). The
second is how much of its execution time it spent waiting on I/O to
complete (99.85% in this case).

Right, so it's not actually transferring any data, it's just waiting on
I/O for some reason.

Correct, and it's waiting because something is writing to the disk
and blocking its ability to update the journal. Not completely blocking
it as it spent 0.15% of its time doing something, uhm, "useful" during
that sample. It's not even clear that there's an issue since I'd expect
stuff like that to occur sporadically during times of heavy I/O. It's
also common if you've just formatted an ext4 filesystem as it does,
essentially, a "quick" format first, and slowly initializes the rest of
the partition over some period of time. The idea is to make the
filesystem usable quickly and get the housekeeping done in its spare
time.

Assuming this isn't a fresh "mke2fs -t ext4" on the partition, I'd still
try to find what's beating on that partition before messing around with
anything drastic like changing the journal commit timing. The jdb2 thing
in iotop (if it happens a LOT) indicates there's something weird going
on--but it is NOT the cause of the problem. Don't shoot the messenger!


Yes. As I replied earlier, next time it happens, I will post the output
of iostat and lsof
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Re: Kernel task 276 consumes 100% of io bandwidth on boo drive

2018-05-09 Thread JD



On 05/09/2018 06:08 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:

On Wed, 9 May 2018 16:55:03 -0700
Samuel Sieb wrote:


Right, so it's not actually transferring any data, it's just waiting on
I/O for some reason.

If it is a brand new just formatted ext4 system mounted for the
first time, the system writes all the initial journal data
structures (or something like that) as soon as it is
mounted. Once it finishes, it never has to do it again.

Hi Tom,
there are 4 partitions on /dev/sda.
sda1 and sda2 are for ms windoze (one of them contains recovery tools).
sda3 is the fedora boot partition, and sda4 is the fedora swap.
The installation has been working find for well over a year.
So, this is not a recent installation.
But, the i/o load is indeed rather recent.
It makes watching YT a very annoying experience of stop and go video.
But after the jbod task finishes, I can watch YT without the stop and go 
annoyance.

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Re: Kernel task 276 consumes 100% of io bandwidth on boo drive

2018-05-09 Thread JD



On 05/09/2018 05:37 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:

On 05/09/2018 03:23 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 05/09/2018 10:58 AM, JD wrote:

276 be/3 root0.00 B/s0.00 B/s 0.00 % 99.85 % [jbd2/sda3-8]

What command produces this output?

It comes from iotop.


   From just that line, it looks like
there is no data transferred at all.  I've never understood what 100% of
I/O bandwidth means.  How is the maximum calculated?  Or does it mean
that out of all the data transferred, 100% came from this process?

That's not what it means. The first percentage is how much of that
task's execution time it spent being swapped in and out (0.00%). The
second is how much of its execution time it spent waiting on I/O to
complete (99.85% in this case).

Here it indicates someone is flogging an ext4 filesystem fairly hard (an
indexer walking a directory tree, something logging, etc.). That also
indicates he has 7 partitions using ext4 filesystems, but doesn't say
which one is getting flogged. That's why I suggested an "iostat -p ALL
2" to identify the active device, followed by an "lsof" to see what
processes have that device open to hunt the culprit down.

OK - Thanx!. Will try that next time it gets going again.
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Kernel task 276 consumes 100% of io bandwidth on boo drive

2018-05-09 Thread JD

  276 be/3 root0.00 B/s0.00 B/s 0.00 % 99.85 % [jbd2/sda3-8]

When I booted, drive was clean!!

All my current running processes (i.e. ones I started), are quiescent.

Whith glitches like these, it makes a LOT more difficult to honetsly tell
students why they should switch to Fedora, "because it is better".
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Re: Mate Session + child Caja consuming 98% of io badwidth to/from boot drive

2018-04-30 Thread JD
On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 2:21 PM, Tim via users <
users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote:

> Allegedly, on or about 30 April 2018, JD sent:
> > I had no idea tha Caja would be doing this, and what's
> > more is that all it's i/o was to/from the boot disk.
> >
> > About 30 minutes after I sent the email, it's i/o load
> > wen down back to near zero.
>
> Perhaps a thumbnailer plug-in trawling through large files trying to
> build up preview icons for the files?
>

​Perhaps ...
but I wish I knew how to trap what's triggering it!!!
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Re: Mate Session + child Caja consuming 98% of io badwidth to/from boot drive

2018-04-30 Thread JD
top shows cpu load, and not i/o load. Usually processes
that are i/o bound consume less cpu time, due to having
to wait for the completion of each i/o operation.

On Sun, Apr 29, 2018 at 2:40 PM, Fred Smith 
wrote:

> On Sun, Apr 29, 2018 at 12:36:08PM -0600, JD wrote:
> > I have not seen this before, so I do not know what might be causing this.
> > All tasks are quiescent, except that I am watching a youtube video.
> > So I stopped the YT video and waited to see if the activity of Caja
> > would abate. NOP!!! It stays at 92 to 98 %
>
> did you look at top (or use ps) to see if there is a runaway caja
> in the background consuming resources?
>
> not that I find caja does that, but have seen it happen with one
> odd program or another on rare occasion.
>
> Not  necessarilyy in Mate.
>
> --
>  Fred Smith -- fre...@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us
> -
>   "For him who is able to keep you from falling and to present you before
> his
>  glorious presence without fault and with great joy--to the only God our
> Savior
>  be glory, majesty, power and authority, through Jesus Christ our Lord,
> before
>  all ages, now and forevermore! Amen."
> - Jude 1:24,25 (niv)
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Re: Mate Session + child Caja consuming 98% of io badwidth to/from boot drive

2018-04-30 Thread JD
iotop shows it to consume that much i/o bandwidth.

I had no idea tha Caja would be doing this, and what's
more is that all it's i/o was to/from the boot disk.

About 30 minutes after I sent the email, it's i/o load
wen down back to near zero.


On Sun, Apr 29, 2018 at 9:41 PM, Samuel Sieb  wrote:

> On 04/29/2018 11:36 AM, JD wrote:
>
>> I have not seen this before, so I do not know what might be causing this.
>> All tasks are quiescent, except that I am watching a youtube video.
>> So I stopped the YT video and waited to see if the activity of Caja
>> would abate. NOP!!! It stays at 92 to 98 %
>>
>
> How do you know that it's doing this?
>
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Mate Session + child Caja consuming 98% of io badwidth to/from boot drive

2018-04-29 Thread JD

I have not seen this before, so I do not know what might be causing this.
All tasks are quiescent, except that I am watching a youtube video.
So I stopped the YT video and waited to see if the activity of Caja
would abate. NOP!!! It stays at 92 to 98 %
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Re: How to switch to mate?

2018-04-17 Thread JD

At the login screen, first choose the login name
then before you type the password, click on the small
wheel in the login banner and it will drop down a menu
of DT's to choose from.
Choose Mate, then type your password and you are done.


On 04/17/2018 11:42 AM, Beartooth wrote:

If this isn't the right list, please redirect me!

I have a PC running F27, with mate and xfce both installed; at
present, what I see is xfce. How do I change to mate??


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Re: html to man page

2018-04-05 Thread JD



On 04/05/2018 08:29 AM, Tim via users wrote:

Allegedly, on or about 4 April 2018, Sam Varshavchik sent:

I find Docbook XML to be irreplacable, when it comes to writing
technical documentation that serves as a single source of both manual
pages and publishable HTML.

I'm pretty sure I've looked at Docbook, though could have been another
thing.  But what I found when using *some* form of intermediate
language, that the conversions to other forms were not optimal.

I might write a page with headings and subheadings, properly in
sequence, and text between.

Like:

Pancakes

   

Ingredients

  
Flour
Milk
etc...
  

   

   

 Method

And so on, and so forth...

Only to find out the translation has lost the context, converting plain
headings into stylised generic headings all of the same hierarchy.  Or
that straight-forward attributes (name="something") get butchered into
garbage (name="g12").

Or that your two languages have no overlap in being able to do the same
thing, albeit using different methods, and content gets butchered into
inappropriate simulations of what you were trying to do.


Thanks for the heads up!!
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html to man page

2018-04-01 Thread JD

Hi all,
I have an app that has no manpage, but has about 170 html files,
all of which index into a subset of the 168 files.

I would like to use an app that will produce a single manpage like
text file.

Is there an app that can do this?

I saw a few apps on google search, but none of them are producing what I 
want.


Thanx.
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Re: easiest way to encrypt existing home dir?

2018-03-30 Thread JD

Thanks!
Will try it on a temporary dir first.



On 03/30/2018 07:53 PM, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:

On Sat, 31 Mar 2018 02:41:53 +0200
Wolfgang Pfeiffer  wrote:


Interested in how to do it?

I got an email off-list to post the instructions. Again: I created the
container around ten years ago. Did it on Debian. But used that approach
for years once I created this container.

Here we go (Read the notes at the end, please):

--->
Making an ecrypted file container:

$ nice -+19 /usr/bin/dcfldd bs=1M count=6000 statusinterval=10 if=/dev/urandom 
of=/home//encrypt.ctr

# losetup /dev/loop0 /home//encrypt.ctr
# cryptsetup --verbose --verify-passphrase --cipher aes-xts-benbi  --key-size 
512 luksFormat /dev/loop0
# cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/loop0 encfs
# /sbin/mkfs.ext3 -j -O dir_index,filetype,sparse_super /dev/mapper/encfs
# chown : /home//enc
# chmod 0700 /home//enc


added to fstab this line
/dev/mapper/encfs  /home//enc  ext3 
user,noauto,rw,dev,exec,suid   0 0

Backup before:
# cp /etc/fstab~ /etc/fstab.2008.12.21
`/etc/fstab~' -> `/etc/fstab.2008.12.21'


mount:
# losetup /dev/loop0 /home//encrypt.ctr
# cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/loop0 encfs
as :
$ mount enc/


umount:
$ umount enc/
# cryptsetup luksClose encfs
# losetup -d /dev/loop0
<-

A few short notes (it's late, I want some sleep ..)

0:
   the stuff after the 'mount'/'umount' lines is what I did to
   activate/deactivate the container after logging in.

1:
   "--cipher aes-xts-benbi" - I'd change that to a cipher you want. I
   think aes-xts-benbi is oldand not be what you want today 

2:
$ nice -+19 /usr/bin/dcfldd bs=1M count=6000 statusinterval=10 if=/dev/urandom 
of=/home//encrypt.ctr

  "bs=1M count=6000" : should create a container size of 6000Mb ..

3:
IIRC:
   '#' from above: done as root; '$' done as 

4:
   In your /home dir I think you should do this - probably wasn't created
   automatically via fstab:
   mkdir enc
   so /home//enc is simply the mount point for your
   encrypted container, IIRC ...

I got these instructions from somewhere on the internets. Not my
work, IIRC. Just tried and probably modified it. And successfully.

Good luck, all!
Wolfgang

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Re: Killing only selected Chrome windows from the CLI ?

2018-03-28 Thread JD



On 03/27/2018 07:30 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 03/27/2018 06:18 PM, JD wrote:

I think you are way way too stressed out.
I am merely trying to reduce my typing as I am not such a good typist.


He wasn't the only one thinking it, though.  I was considering making 
the same comment.

__

Har :):):);)
Knock yerselves out
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Re: Killing only selected Chrome windows from the CLI ?

2018-03-27 Thread JD



On 03/27/2018 07:03 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:

On 03/27/2018 04:27 PM, JD wrote:



if the load is still high, at least u will have eliminated that window.
so try this with each window and check the cpu load.




While u r  at it, also check the mem usage of chrome. High mem usage
can cause a lot of paging and even swapping if u  r a small ram. But if
you have plethora of RAM, then u need not worry about it. U should have
at least 2 X RAM as SWAP space. Since I run a lot of apps, I have 4X RAM
as SWAP on HD.

Is it possible that while "u r @ it", you could try typing out the words
instead of using inane social media jargon? This is a mailing list, not
a bloody Twitter feed. I can feel my IQ drop when I see such a posting.

(Sorry, but someone has to say it!)

I think you are way way too stressed out.
I am merely trying to reduce my typing as I am not such a good typist.
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Re: Killing only selected Chrome windows from the CLI ?

2018-03-27 Thread JD


On 03/26/2018 07:53 PM, Philip Rhoades wrote:

Samuel,


On 2018-03-27 12:18, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 03/26/2018 05:59 PM, Philip Rhoades wrote:

but it is not what I want to do - when Chrome goes mad and the whole
system starts grinding to a halt (I know from experience it is
Chrome) I want to try and work out what specific Chrome tab or
window is the problem.  Chrome has its own task manager:


If you run top, which process is using the CPU?  Just kill that one,
then go through your chrome tabs and find out which tab has the sad
face on it.



That usually doesn't work from my recollection, no individual tab
seems to be a problem - it is either Chrome as a whole or a whole
window I think . . obviously shutting down all of Chrome fixes the
problem . . but it is a pain to gradually re-open all the windows I
previously had open again . .

P.

Phil,
How about using the trial and error method.
Kill one window (press the X on the right hand upper corner :)  )
and then check the cpu load in a full screen cli window.
if the load is still high, at least u will have eliminated that window.
so try this with each window and check the cpu load.
The one that brings the load down (after killing it :) )
is the culprit.
While u r  at it, also check the mem usage of chrome. High mem usage
can cause a lot of paging and even swapping if u  r a small ram. But if 
you have plethora of RAM, then u need not worry about it. U should have 
at least 2 X RAM as SWAP space. Since I run a lot of apps, I have 4X RAM 
as SWAP on HD.

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Re: Killing only selected Chrome windows from the CLI ?

2018-03-26 Thread JD



On 03/26/2018 06:59 PM, Philip Rhoades wrote:

People,

This command exits the chrome process tree gracefully, in all window 
managers:


  pkill --oldest chrome

but it is not what I want to do - when Chrome goes mad and the whole 
system starts grinding to a halt (I know from experience it is Chrome) 
I want to try and work out what specific Chrome tab or window is the 
problem.  Chrome has its own task manager:


  SHIFT ESC

but you can't kill a window with all its tabs from there.

Using:

  ps aux | grep "beta\/chrome"

seems to indicate individual tabs?

Using:

  xprop _NET_WM_PID

and clicking on the different windows always give the same id.

I wrote the script below using wmctrl and xkill to allow me to kill 
the Chrome windows in reverse order of creation but killing the first 
Chrome window kills all Chrome windows.  The xkill man page says the 
"program is very dangerous" and:


  -id resource

This option specifies the X identifier for the resource whose creator 
is to be aborted.


- so it looks like aborting "creator" gets rid of everything.

Any suggestions about fixing my script to selectively kill single 
Chrome windows?


Thanks,

Phil.


#!/bin/bash

wins=`wmctrl -l | sort -r`
IFS=$'\n' # bash 4
readarray -t winsarr <<< "$wins"

for win in "${winsarr[@]}"
do
IFS=' ' read id junk1 junk2 name <<< $win
echo "$id  $name"
echo -n "Kill?: "
read junk
if [ "$junk" == "Y" ]; then
xkill -frame -id "$id"
fi
done


You cannot kill specific windows of an app using general purpose CLI 
commands.
You need a command that talks directly to chrome and, for example, ask 
it for

the window id's of all of it's windows.
And the you might tell chrome to kill some specific set of window id's.
So, it all has to be under the direct control of chrome main process.
I am not sure that such an interface exists. If enought people scream
at google for such an interface, then google /might/ provide such a cli.
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Re: alternative to skype

2018-03-18 Thread JD



On 03/18/2018 02:34 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 03/19/18 04:20, JD wrote:

On 03/18/2018 11:46 AM, fred roller wrote:

you have g-voice they do not.  similar to skype acct to acct or acct to other. I
use g-voice for a voice mailbox because of its ability to transcribe to text and
send to my phone.  I do know that you can call any phone number but usually by
charging the account w/ $$.

On Sun, Mar 18, 2018 at 12:40 PM, JD mailto:jd1...@gmail.com>>
wrote:



 On 03/18/2018 10:32 AM, fred roller wrote:

 > Does Google Hangouts allow international free phone number
 calling?
 AFAIK it is just a private chat set up by email identifier so
 no phone.  In essence then yes. The Google Voice option, if
 you can get it will do what I suspect you want; your account
 to a non-account call.

 -- Fred

 I don't understand the last part: your account to a non-account call.
 What is a non-account call


well, that's just like skype.
I do not know googl'es per minute charges to non-account phone numbers,
vs. phone numbers associated with a google account.
Are the rates published online?

http://bit.ly/2FQletP   ?

Great and reasonable rate charges.
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Re: alternative to skype

2018-03-18 Thread JD


On 03/18/2018 11:46 AM, fred roller wrote:
you have g-voice they do not.  similar to skype acct to acct or acct 
to other. I use g-voice for a voice mailbox because of its ability to 
transcribe to text and send to my phone.  I do know that you can call 
any phone number but usually by charging the account w/ $$.


On Sun, Mar 18, 2018 at 12:40 PM, JD <mailto:jd1...@gmail.com>> wrote:




On 03/18/2018 10:32 AM, fred roller wrote:

> Does Google Hangouts allow international free phone number
calling?
AFAIK it is just a private chat set up by email identifier so
no phone.  In essence then yes. The Google Voice option, if
you can get it will do what I suspect you want; your account
to a non-account call.

-- Fred

I don't understand the last part: your account to a non-account call.
What is a non-account call


well, that's just like skype.
I do not know googl'es per minute charges to non-account phone numbers,
vs. phone numbers associated with a google account.
Are the rates published online?
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Re: alternative to skype

2018-03-18 Thread JD



On 03/18/2018 10:32 AM, fred roller wrote:

> Does Google Hangouts allow international free phone number calling?
AFAIK it is just a private chat set up by email identifier so no 
phone.  In essence then yes. The Google Voice option, if you can get 
it will do what I suspect you want; your account to a non-account call.


-- Fred


I don't understand the last part: your account to a non-account call.
What is a non-account call
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Re: alternative to skype

2018-03-18 Thread JD



On 03/18/2018 02:59 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Sat, 2018-03-17 at 22:48 -0400, fred roller wrote:

gmail has video connect (both might need an account but so does skype) and the 
drive would allow shared files.  Google voice is a free service which does 
video as well I believe.

Google Voice only exists in the US.

Google Hangouts is an alternative available everywhere. It also allows
multi-part video-conferencing, which I think Skype only has in the
business version (at least it used to be that way). And Google, never
happy with only one offering, also has Allo and Duo.

There's also WhatsApp (one-to-one video only AFAIK), and I think
Facebook.

All of these are closed-source of course, but so is Skype.

poc

Does Google Hangouts allow international free phone number calling?
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Re: du Weirdness - how is this possible

2018-03-11 Thread JD

How about checking the permissions of all files/dirs in phil?

Run
ls -lR phil

and report results.

On 03/11/2018 12:48 PM, Philip Rhoades wrote:

People,

I started deleting GBs of stuff from:

/dev/sdb1 /backup

but df did not reduce from 95% so I looked more closely and found this 
weirdness:


# du -s -BG 20180216
43G 20180216

# du -s -BG 20180216/*
1G  20180216/naf_dirs
43G 20180216/phil
1G  20180216/root

# du -s -BG 20180216/phil/*
1G  20180216/phil/0
1G  20180216/phil/0_finance
1G  20180216/phil/0_naf
1G  20180216/phil/Maildir
1G  20180216/phil/txts
1G  20180216/phil/vimwiki

Where has ~37GB disappeared to?  There are no files held open and I 
have successfully umounted and re-mounted the partition - what is 
going on?


Thanks,

Phil.

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Linux Kernel 4.14.12 Released to Disable x86 PTI for AMD Processors

2018-03-07 Thread JD

Is the PTI patch available for download by itself?
http://news.softpedia.com/news/linux-kernel-4-14-12-released-to-disable-x86-pti-for-amd-radeon-processors-519253.shtml

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Re: setting screen resolution at boot

2018-03-01 Thread JD



On 03/01/2018 06:37 PM, stan wrote:

On Wed, 28 Feb 2018 19:47:25 -0700
JD  wrote:


Hi all,
on fc27:
how do I set the screen resolution to less than 1920X1080 ?
I would like to reduce it to something like  1280X1080
Is that "doable"? (Pardon my use of doable :) :)
I would like the DT (Mate) to respect that resolution and show
everything on desktop as if that is the HW resolution.

I think you meant 1280x720.  But if your monitor is digital, this is a
bad idea.  There was a recent discussion on this list about why it is a
bad idea; the summary is that the dots will not align properly for
text on a lower resolution.  Everything will look fuzzy.

Interesting!!! I am not familiar with that, as this is the first time I am
encountering this problem of fedora on a 1920x1200 screen.
1. Default fonts are just too small.
2. Icons of running apps on the bottom panel of Mate DT
are incredibly small and undiscernible.
3. On the first gui login creen, if  click on the tiny icon of power switch,
the drop down menu is so tiny,  I have to use 2.0 power reading glasses
to see where the Shutdown, or Restart selections are.



If you are using X, and an analog monitor, you can put a configuration
file in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d.  A search on the web will give you
the format.  Use xrandr to get the numbers to plug in.

This is a laptop, so no, it is not an old analog display :)


I don't know how to do this for wayland.

But I think the better thing for you to do is to up the size of fonts
that everything uses, if possible.  Text will look a lot better.

I have done that, but I thought it is a rather kludgey thing to do,
because there does not seem to be a system-wide setting that
is used by all components of system and apps.

Thanx for the heads up.
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setting screen resolution at boot

2018-02-28 Thread JD

Hi all,
on fc27:
how do I set the screen resolution to less than 1920X1080 ?
I would like to reduce it to something like  1280X1080
Is that "doable"? (Pardon my use of doable :) :)
I would like the DT (Mate) to respect that resolution and show
everything on desktop as if that is the HW resolution.

Thanx!!
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Re: OT: force re-download in clasw-mail

2018-02-26 Thread JD



On 02/26/2018 01:42 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote:

On 02/26/18 15:16, wwp wrote:

I won't go further here, it's not only off-topic but also not replying
to the original topic of this thread. You're welcome on the Claws Mail
users mailing-list or IRC channel if you want!


.

"Claws Mail users mailing-list if you want!"

I may try that, thanks for the help,

Bob


I google mail.
I found that my mail client TB has NO WAY of forcing googl'e gmail server
to resend emails.
But the Gmail server does have some ways to forward old emails to an
email address of your choice.
If your email provider has this feature on their server, you might try
this approach.
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Re: downloading ALL Packages of a fedora release.

2018-02-22 Thread JD



On 01/14/2018 02:22 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 01/15/18 05:19, Ed Greshko wrote:

kernel-devel  x86_64 4.14.13-300.fc27 updates12 
M
  kernel-headersx86_64 4.14.13-300.fc27 updates   
1.2 M


Note these packages are from updates.  If the laptop system hasn't been updated 
one
can use

dnf --disablerepo updates --downloadonly --downloaddir=/tmp install broadcom-wl

to get

  kernel-devel  x86_64 4.13.9-300.fc27  fedora 
11 M
  kernel-headersx86_64 4.13.9-300.fc27  fedora
1.2 M
After all this time, I was able to return to my friend's laptop and I 
was ready

with all the rpms outlined by Ed.

They all installed, albeit, with the command option --disablerepo=*
They all installed, (from external disk), and I rebooted.
Network came up. I thought I was out of the woods and into
a well mapped world.
I did the update, and all the packages updated.
No problems. I did a clean shutdown.
That was yesterday.
Today, I powered up the machine, and it proceeded to do fsck
But I had done a clean install and a clcean shutdown!!!
After fsck, I rebooted.
AGAIN - machines started to do fsck.
I waited, did another clean shutdown.
AGAIN the machine ran fsck
How in tarnation can I put an end to this?
I had not experienced this on other machines running older
versions of fedora.
OK... that was the first problem today,
Problem 2:
Network will not come up :( :( :(
I checked to make sure all the rpm packages that brought up the network 
were still there.

And indeed they are.
Yet the network will not come up :(
I have to admit that I had not set up a proper firewall yesterday.
The machine's firewall was still in it's "first install state" and I 
assume in a "promiscuous" configuration.
I do not know, I am only guessing what could have happened and by what 
cause!!!


So, how do I proceed now?
Should I re-install the rpms that first brought up the machine's wifi?
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Re: unable to bring up mediatek usb wifi dongle

2018-02-21 Thread JD



On 02/21/2018 11:16 AM, George N. White III wrote:
On 21 February 2018 at 13:37, JD <mailto:jd1...@gmail.com>> wrote:




Can anyone suggest a wifi 300 or 600 mbps usb dongle that will work
with multiple fedora machines ranging from fc18 to fc27 ?
Thanx!




Do you really need a wifi dongle or could you use a wifi extender with
ethernet cables?In my experience , if you don't need mobility so can
live with cables, wifi  extenders have better antennae and are generally
much less troublesome than USB dongles once you get them set up.


--
George N. White III

Hi George,
Mobility is definitely part of the Rx. :) :)
So, an extender will not "work" in this case.
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Re: unable to bring up mediatek usb wifi dongle

2018-02-21 Thread JD



On 02/21/2018 06:23 AM, George N. White III wrote:
On 20 February 2018 at 22:17, JD <mailto:jd1...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Tried to bring up a mediateck usb wifi stick with a built-in antenna.

$ dmesg | grep 'usb 1-1'
[ 3632.100121] usb 1-1: new high-speed USB device number 13 using
xhci_hcd
[ 3633.314114] usb 1-1: new high-speed USB device number 14 using
xhci_hcd
[ 3633.446949] usb 1-1: New USB device found, idVendor=0e8d,
idProduct=7610
[ 3633.446954] usb 1-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2,
SerialNumber=3
[ 3633.446956] usb 1-1: Product: WiFi
[ 3633.446958] usb 1-1: Manufacturer: MediaTek
[ 3633.446960] usb 1-1: SerialNumber: 1.0

$ lsmod | grep 2800
rt2800usb  27189  0
rt2x00usb  19835  1 rt2800usb
rt2800lib  91269  1 rt2800usb
rt2x00lib  66983  3 rt2x00usb,rt2800lib,rt2800usb
crc_ccitt  12613  1 rt2800lib
mac80211  683564  4 rt2x00lib,rt2x00usb,rt2800lib,iwldvm

and
$ lshw
shows this:
.
   configuration: driver=hub slots=2 speed=5000Mbit/s
  *-usbhost:1
   product: xHCI Host Controller
   vendor: Linux 3.19.8-100.fc20.x86_64 xhci-hcd
   physical id: 1
   bus info: usb@1
   logical name: usb1
   version: 3.19
   capabilities: usb-2.00
   configuration: driver=hub slots=2 speed=480Mbit/s
 *-usb UNCLAIMED  <<<<<< Notice This. No
driver??? claimed it
  description: Generic USB device
  product: WiFi
  vendor: MediaTek
  physical id: 1
  bus info: usb@1:1
  version: 1.00
  serial: 1.0
  capabilities: usb-2.01
  configuration: maxpower=160mA speed=480Mbit/s

But, ifconfig only shows only these interfaces:
$ ifconfig
bond0: flags=5123 mtu 1500

em1: flags=4099  mtu 1500

lo: flags=73  mtu 65536

virbr0: flags=4099  mtu 1500

So, what is missing as far as drivers, or apps 
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There seem to be lots of "MediaTeK 7610" dongles with various chips 
inside.  You could try
adding your USB id to the list of devices supported by the rt2800usb 
module:


https://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?309580-Mediatek-MT7610-Ralink-RT2870

If this fails you might at least get the details for your chipset.

There is also: https://github.com/ulli-kroll/mt7610u/

--
George N. White III

linux-wireless says:


 Unsupported chips

 *
   *MT7630E*802.11b/g/n 1T1R 2.4 GHzCombo Card (Jakub Kicinski
   kubak...@wp.pl <mailto:kubak...@wp.pl>:
   http://github.com/kuba-moo/mt7630e)

 *
   *MT7610U/MT7612U*802.11a/b/g/n/ac 1T1R 2.4 GHzUSB (Hans Ulli Kroll
   ulli.kr...@googlemail.com <mailto:ulli.kr...@googlemail.com>:
   https://github.com/ulli-kroll/mt7610u)

 *
   Any new MediaTek chip <https://wikidevi.com/wiki/MediaTek>. MediaTek
   drivers can be downloaded from:
   http://www.mediatek.com/en/downloads1/downloads/

Which includes my wifi dongle (mt7610U) - U stands for USB.

Can anyone suggest a wifi 300 or 600 mbps usb dongle that will work
with multiple fedora machines ranging from fc18 to fc27 ?
Thanx!
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Re: unable to bring up mediatek usb wifi dongle

2018-02-21 Thread JD



On 02/21/2018 10:18 AM, JD wrote:



On 02/21/2018 07:41 AM, jarmo wrote:

Wed, 21 Feb 2018 09:23:49 -0400
"George N. White III"  kirjoitti:



There seem to be lots of "MediaTeK 7610" dongles with various chips
inside.  You could try
adding your USB id to the list of devices supported by the rt2800usb
module:

https://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?309580-Mediatek-MT7610-Ralink-RT2870 



If this fails you might at least get the details for your chipset.

There is also: https://github.com/ulli-kroll/mt7610u/


I have Asus AC51 dongle, with MediaTek cip. Never have got it working.
Even package says, that working with LINUX, yes maybe, driver is for
kernel 2.6.x
Wrote to ASUS, they said, that they have nothing to do with drivers...

So, now I have one electrical garbage more :) Thank heaven, it didn't
cost much...

Jarmo
Well Jamo, I did come across the driver from Mediatek and I am trying 
to see if it will build and run.



Well, that was quick 
It will not compile due to errors:

/tmp/drivers/mediatek/mt7610u_wifi_sta_v3002_dpo_20130916/os/linux/../../os/linux/rt_linux.c: 
In function ‘__RtmpOSFSInfoChange’:
/tmp/drivers/mediatek/mt7610u_wifi_sta_v3002_dpo_20130916/os/linux/../../os/linux/rt_linux.c:1109:20: 
error: incompatible types when assigning to type ‘int’ from type ‘kuid_t’

   pOSFSInfo->fsuid = current_fsuid();
^
/tmp/drivers/mediatek/mt7610u_wifi_sta_v3002_dpo_20130916/os/linux/../../os/linux/rt_linux.c:1110:20: 
error: incompatible types when assigning to type ‘int’ from type ‘kgid_t’

   pOSFSInfo->fsgid = current_fsgid();
.
.
.
.
.
.
 ^
make[2]: *** 
[/tmp/drivers/mediatek/mt7610u_wifi_sta_v3002_dpo_20130916/os/linux/../../os/linux/rt_linux.o] 
Error 1
make[1]: *** 
[_module_/tmp/drivers/mediatek/mt7610u_wifi_sta_v3002_dpo_20130916/os/linux] 
Error 2'

make: *** [LINUX] Error 2
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unable to bring up mediatek usb wifi dongle

2018-02-20 Thread JD

Tried to bring up a mediateck usb wifi stick with a built-in antenna.

$ dmesg | grep 'usb 1-1'
[ 3632.100121] usb 1-1: new high-speed USB device number 13 using xhci_hcd
[ 3633.314114] usb 1-1: new high-speed USB device number 14 using xhci_hcd
[ 3633.446949] usb 1-1: New USB device found, idVendor=0e8d, idProduct=7610
[ 3633.446954] usb 1-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, 
SerialNumber=3

[ 3633.446956] usb 1-1: Product: WiFi
[ 3633.446958] usb 1-1: Manufacturer: MediaTek
[ 3633.446960] usb 1-1: SerialNumber: 1.0

$ lsmod | grep 2800
rt2800usb  27189  0
rt2x00usb  19835  1 rt2800usb
rt2800lib  91269  1 rt2800usb
rt2x00lib  66983  3 rt2x00usb,rt2800lib,rt2800usb
crc_ccitt  12613  1 rt2800lib
mac80211  683564  4 rt2x00lib,rt2x00usb,rt2800lib,iwldvm

and
$ lshw
shows this:
.
   configuration: driver=hub slots=2 speed=5000Mbit/s
  *-usbhost:1
   product: xHCI Host Controller
   vendor: Linux 3.19.8-100.fc20.x86_64 xhci-hcd
   physical id: 1
   bus info: usb@1
   logical name: usb1
   version: 3.19
   capabilities: usb-2.00
   configuration: driver=hub slots=2 speed=480Mbit/s
 *-usb UNCLAIMED   << Notice This. No driver??? 
claimed it

  description: Generic USB device
  product: WiFi
  vendor: MediaTek
  physical id: 1
  bus info: usb@1:1
  version: 1.00
  serial: 1.0
  capabilities: usb-2.01
  configuration: maxpower=160mA speed=480Mbit/s

But, ifconfig only shows only these interfaces:
$ ifconfig
bond0: flags=5123  mtu 1500

em1: flags=4099  mtu 1500

lo: flags=73  mtu 65536

virbr0: flags=4099  mtu 1500

So, what is missing as far as drivers, or apps 
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Re: Importing FF bookmarks from another profile

2018-02-10 Thread JD



On 02/09/2018 09:55 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 02/09/2018 05:59 PM, JD wrote:


On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 3:12 PM, Samuel Sieb <mailto:sam...@sieb.net>> wrote:


On 02/09/2018 09:31 AM, JD wrote:

Yes Sam. I tried to restore, and I tried to convert to html.
In both cases, for all the files in bookmarksbackup dir, I
am getting Unable to process the backup file.


I'm confused about how you're trying to do the convert to html.  You
should open Firefox using the old profile.  Go to the bookmarks
window and use the "export to html" option.  Then in the new
profile, you go to the bookmarks window and use the "import from
html" option.



Sam - That's EXACTLY what I did!!!


Then I don't understand why you have anything to do with the backup 
directory.  You should only be dealing with the bookmarks that are in 
the browser profile.  Are the bookmarks gone?

Yes :(
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Re: Importing FF bookmarks from another profile

2018-02-09 Thread JD



On 02/09/2018 03:12 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 02/09/2018 09:31 AM, JD wrote:

Yes Sam. I tried to restore, and I tried to convert to html.
In both cases, for all the files in bookmarksbackup dir, I
am getting Unable to process the backup file.


I'm confused about how you're trying to do the convert to html. You 
should open Firefox using the old profile.  Go to the bookmarks window 
and use the "export to html" option.  Then in the new profile, you go 
to the bookmarks window and use the "import from html" option.



I am just not sure how in tarnation all of them could get corrupted
I even tried to decompress with  "lz4 -d" command,
but the command said:
Error 44 : Unrecognized header : file cannot be decoded


They started using this before there was a standard lz4 header. See 
https://github.com/avih/dejsonlz4 for a way to uncompress them.
OK, I downloaded the dejsonlz4 tarball, and built it, and used it on one 
of the backup files.


Now, in order to import it as html, I need to convert it to html first.

I do not see a tool that readily converts json to html.
There are websites that let you paste the json text and they output html 
text.
I have not found sites that let you upload the json file, and give you 
the url to download the html output file.


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Re: Importing FF bookmarks from another profile

2018-02-09 Thread JD
On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 3:12 PM, Samuel Sieb  wrote:

> On 02/09/2018 09:31 AM, JD wrote:
>
>> Yes Sam. I tried to restore, and I tried to convert to html.
>> In both cases, for all the files in bookmarksbackup dir, I
>> am getting Unable to process the backup file.
>>
>
> I'm confused about how you're trying to do the convert to html.  You
> should open Firefox using the old profile.  Go to the bookmarks window and
> use the "export to html" option.  Then in the new profile, you go to the
> bookmarks window and use the "import from html" option.
>


Sam - That's EXACTLY what I did!!!


> I am just not sure how in tarnation all of them could get corrupted
>> I even tried to decompress with  "lz4 -d" command,
>> but the command said:
>> Error 44 : Unrecognized header : file cannot be decoded
>>
>
> They started using this before there was a standard lz4 header.  See
> https://github.com/avih/dejsonlz4 for a way to uncompress them.


​OK! Will do. Will get back to you.
​
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Re: Importing FF bookmarks from another profile

2018-02-09 Thread JD



On 02/08/2018 09:05 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 02/08/2018 06:26 PM, JD wrote:
On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 1:43 PM, Samuel Sieb <mailto:sam...@sieb.net>> wrote:

You're using the wrong option.  You would have to use the "Restore"
option and that would wipe out all your existing bookmarks first. 
In the bookmarks window (try CTRL-SHIFT-o), there's an option under

the "Import and Backup" menu to "Export Bookmarks as HTML". Use
that. You'll also see there the corresponding "Import Bookmarks from
HTML".


​Well, i just used the restore and I got
"​
  Unable to process the backup file.
​ "​
on ever instance of the backup bookmarks files that
are in that profile I wanted to import them from.


Ok, so did you try the other method?

Yes Sam. I tried to restore, and I tried to convert to html.
In both cases, for all the files in bookmarksbackup dir, I
am getting Unable to process the backup file.

I am just not sure how in tarnation all of them could get corrupted
I even tried to decompress with  "lz4 -d" command,
but the command said:
Error 44 : Unrecognized header : file cannot be decoded

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Re: Importing FF bookmarks from another profile

2018-02-08 Thread JD
On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 1:43 PM, Samuel Sieb  wrote:

> On 02/07/2018 12:23 PM, JD wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On 02/07/2018 01:01 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
>>
>>> On 02/07/2018 09:44 AM, JD wrote:
>>>
>>>> What is the best way to import the bookmarks file from one profile into
>>>> another?
>>>>
>>>
>>> If you open the bookmarks window on the first profile, you can export to
>>> HTML.  Then you can do import from HTML on the other profile.
>>>
>> Hi Sam,
>> It seems that all the backup bookmarks are either in some sort of
>> compressed or encrypted format.
>>
>
> Mozilla uses a custom LZ4 compression on those file.
>
> When I use the shell "file" command on the backup files,
>> it says they are "data".
>> Here is a list of hte backup files:
>> bookmarks-2017-08-06_24_OZipyb+ChF8R9Bh+1qM4JQ==.jsonlz4
>>
>> Am I supposed to first pass them through some other utility to convert
>> them to plain html?
>>
>
> You're using the wrong option.  You would have to use the "Restore" option
> and that would wipe out all your existing bookmarks first.  In the
> bookmarks window (try CTRL-SHIFT-o), there's an option under the "Import
> and Backup" menu to "Export Bookmarks as HTML".  Use that. You'll also see
> there the corresponding "Import Bookmarks from HTML".
>
>
​Well, i just used the restore and I got
"​
 Unable to process the backup file.
​ "​
on ever instance of the backup bookmarks files that
are in that profile I wanted to import them from.
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Re: Importing FF bookmarks from another profile

2018-02-07 Thread JD



On 02/07/2018 01:01 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 02/07/2018 09:44 AM, JD wrote:
What is the best way to import the bookmarks file from one profile 
into another?


If you open the bookmarks window on the first profile, you can export 
to HTML.  Then you can do import from HTML on the other profile.

Hi Sam,
It seems that all the backup bookmarks are either in some sort of 
compressed or encrypted format.

When I use the shell "file" command on the backup files,
it says they are "data".
Here is a list of hte backup files:
bookmarks-2017-08-06_24_OZipyb+ChF8R9Bh+1qM4JQ==.jsonlz4
bookmarks-2017-08-15_24_zXdnf+mw9b4rl3kH1kwkvQ==.jsonlz4
bookmarks-2017-08-21_24_PnL7QP9IrEGUOw93USk+WQ==.jsonlz4
bookmarks-2017-08-26_24_zXdnf+mw9b4rl3kH1kwkvQ==.jsonlz4
bookmarks-2017-09-04_24_PnL7QP9IrEGUOw93USk+WQ==.jsonlz4
bookmarks-2017-09-07_24_zXdnf+mw9b4rl3kH1kwkvQ==.jsonlz4
bookmarks-2017-09-13_24_PnL7QP9IrEGUOw93USk+WQ==.jsonlz4
bookmarks-2017-10-12_24_zXdnf+mw9b4rl3kH1kwkvQ==.jsonlz4
bookmarks-2017-11-01_24_bxTy7qHANZlOMlmKlsP+1w==.jsonlz4
bookmarks-2017-11-07_24_9gsypEZcQR2+vFXtAI+x0Q==.jsonlz4
bookmarks-2017-11-17_24_q4RC5lNId7Z0UVCVy+2CtA==.jsonlz4
bookmarks-2017-11-24_24_H0jK4dFWUWfQKm1FiGarSg==.jsonlz4
bookmarks-2018-01-19_24_q4RC5lNId7Z0UVCVy+2CtA==.jsonlz4
bookmarks-2018-01-24_24_H0jK4dFWUWfQKm1FiGarSg==.jsonlz4
bookmarks-2018-02-01_24_q4RC5lNId7Z0UVCVy+2CtA==.jsonlz4

Am I supposed to first pass them through some other utility to convert 
them to plain html?

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Re: Importing FF bookmarks from another profile

2018-02-07 Thread JD



On 02/07/2018 12:34 PM, Richard England wrote:

On 02/07/2018 09:44 AM, JD wrote:
What is the best way to import the bookmarks file from one profile 
into another?

Does straightforward copy work?
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There is a FF feature to backup and restore your bookmarks (see 
below). I believe you should be able to use this to move your bookmarks.


https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/restore-bookmarks-from-backup-or-move-them 

I tried the copy of the 
/bookmarkbackups/bookmarks-2018-02-01_24_q4RC5lNId7Z0UVCVy+2CtA==.jsonlz4 
to /tmp

and then tried to restore bookmarks from that file.
I get the error that it is corrupted. I have more that 12 such backup files,
but FF keeps saying they are corrupted, or the erros says unable to 
process selected file.

Wish there were a util built-in to FF that could fix bookmark files.
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Importing FF bookmarks from another profile

2018-02-07 Thread JD
What is the best way to import the bookmarks file from one profile into 
another?

Does straightforward copy work?
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Problem browsing at some hotspots

2018-02-06 Thread JD

Hi all,
some hotspots are censoring many websites which they find offensive or 
objectionable,
including websites that discuss evolution and the possible changes that 
can occur
due to the current weakening of Earth's magnetic field, and the 
expanding south atlantic

hole in the magnetic field... This is just one example.

So, I would like to know if there are members on this list who know how 
to get around

such blocking by these hotspots? Are there FF add-ons that can do it?

Thanx!!
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Re: Renaming USB WD 2TB drives

2018-02-05 Thread JD



On 02/05/2018 10:25 AM, Max Pyziur wrote:



Greetings,

I've been trying to use fatlabel to rename a Western Digital 2TB 
USB/external drive. However, the results have been with no success 
either with the drive mounted or not.


Much thanks for any advice on how to proceed.

(Related output is appended below),

Max Pyziur
p...@brama.com

#


root@pegasus ~> lsusb -d 1058:25e1
Bus 002 Device 005: ID 1058:25e1 Western Digital Technologies, Inc.

root@pegasus ~> dmesg | tail
[ 7678.356619] ses 6:0:0:1: Attached Enclosure device
[ 7678.356860] ready
[ 7678.357476] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] 3906963456 512-byte logical blocks: 
(2.00 TB/1.82 TiB)

[ 7678.359054] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off
[ 7678.359056] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 47 00 10 08
[ 7678.360087] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] No Caching mode page found
[ 7678.360104] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
[ 7678.421927]  sdb: sdb1
[ 7678.425461] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI disk

root@pegasus ~> fatlabel /dev/sdb1 EPRINC2TB
Currently, only 1 or 2 FATs are supported, not 0.


manpage says:

fatlabel (8) - set or get MS-DOS filesystem label

So, is (are) the partion (partitions) formatted as vfat filesystem?

If they are not formatted as vfat filesystems,  then you have to label them
using the labeling command specific to the type of FS you will create on
them.
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help with some issues on new install of f27

2018-01-28 Thread JD

1. The installation enabled LUKS encryption at install time.
2. At every clean shutdown and reboot, the user enters the LUKS
   password, and then fsck takes place - EVERY TIME!!!
   Is this due to LUKS? If so, how can the user remove the LUKS feature?
4. After setting the firefox preferences, single clicking on the firefox
   icon on the panel, pops up 2 firefox instances. I checked the 
properties,

   and firefox is invoked only once in the command field.
   This does not happen with other icons, such as thunderbird.

Thanx for any clues to these issues.
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Re: mate dt on fc27 workstation

2018-01-27 Thread JD



On 01/27/2018 07:11 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 01/28/18 09:55, JD wrote:

Well, I am sorry, but it is not working for me the same way.
See the image at https://www.sendspace.com/file/5g7abe


I am not going to download an image from a service that requires that I create 
an
account.  It just ain't going to happen.

I have not had to do that before
Friends send me urls from the server,
and I do not even login to download them.
Strange!!
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Re: mate dt on fc27 workstation

2018-01-27 Thread JD


On 01/27/2018 07:09 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 01/28/18 10:00, JD wrote:


On 01/27/2018 11:49 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:

dnf group install "MATE Desktop"

Just did not occur to me :(

I hope you take a look at the image I have uploaded.

At his point I will be re-installing from scratch.

Why not run that command now?  Maybe it will add the packages you need from the
haphazard way you've tried before?

I do not have that laptop.
It's with my friend. I will get it tomorrow.
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Re: mate dt on fc27 workstation

2018-01-27 Thread JD



On 01/27/2018 11:53 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 01/27/2018 10:05 AM, JD wrote:

Well, all I can tell ya is: it is not happening here.
Only thing I did after network came alive is
1. dnf update
2. dnf install these mate packages (with --skip-broken option)


How did you install those packages?  Did you manually pick them or use 
the group.  The best way would be to do "dnf install @mate-desktop". 
Was the --skip-broken option necessary?  Is so, why?

Just a habit ...
nothing was broken anyways.
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Re: mate dt on fc27 workstation

2018-01-27 Thread JD



On 01/27/2018 11:49 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:

dnf group install "MATE Desktop"

Just did not occur to me :(

I hope you take a look at the image I have uploaded.

At his point I will be re-installing from scratch.
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Re: mate dt on fc27 workstation

2018-01-27 Thread JD



On 01/26/2018 07:49 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 01/27/18 09:05, JD wrote:

I am unable to increase the number of workspaces.
When I right-click on the only visible workspace icon on the panel,
and I click on Preferences, I do not get a gui that lets me increase
the number of workspaces. I only get a small panel which lets the user
choose how many columns to display the workspaces in.

Will I be able to install an older release like from fc26 or fc25
to see how they will behave?


I just install the MATE Desktop on an F27 system running the "Workstation" 
(Gnome)
edition.  After bringing up the Mate DE it has 4 workspaces.  Right clicking on 
the
workspaces on the lower panel brings up a GUI to add spaces as well as changing 
the name.

See the image   
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1PD1JyviXzqKi4_v2bVhgVemFGble-1xh



Well, I am sorry, but it is not working for me the same way.
See the image at https://www.sendspace.com/file/5g7abe

It seems something aint right, and I have no clue what is causing
mate to behave this way.
So, I will go back to square one, but I will try my luck with a different
release.
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Re: mate dt on fc27 workstation

2018-01-27 Thread JD



On 01/27/2018 11:13 AM, Richard England wrote:

On 01/26/2018 06:49 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 01/27/18 09:05, JD wrote:

I am unable to increase the number of workspaces.
When I right-click on the only visible workspace icon on the panel,
and I click on Preferences, I do not get a gui that lets me increase
the number of workspaces. I only get a small panel which lets the user
choose how many columns to display the workspaces in.

Will I be able to install an older release like from fc26 or fc25
to see how they will behave?


I just install the MATE Desktop on an F27 system running the 
"Workstation" (Gnome)
edition.  After bringing up the Mate DE it has 4 workspaces. Right 
clicking on the
workspaces on the lower panel brings up a GUI to add spaces as well 
as changing the name.


See the image  
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1PD1JyviXzqKi4_v2bVhgVemFGble-1xh



I concur, I see the same

I appreciate your experience, but it does not solve my problem.
I went through the process of install all the mate rpms
and rebooted and tried again - to no avail :( I am not able to get the same
pop up little window that Ed shows, and which I also see in my older 
installations.

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Re: mate dt on fc27 workstation

2018-01-27 Thread JD



On 01/26/2018 07:49 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 01/27/18 09:05, JD wrote:
I am unable to increase the number of workspaces. When I right-click 
on the only visible workspace icon on the panel, and I click on 
Preferences, I do not get a gui that lets me increase the number of 
workspaces. I only get a small panel which lets the user choose how 
many columns to display the workspaces in. Will I be able to install 
an older release like from fc26 or fc25 to see how they will behave? 
I just install the MATE Desktop on an F27 system running the 
"Workstation" (Gnome) edition.  After bringing up the Mate DE it has 4 
workspaces. Right clicking on the workspaces on the lower panel brings 
up a GUI to add spaces as well as changing the name. See the image 
 https://drive.google.com/open?id=1PD1JyviXzqKi4_v2bVhgVemFGble-1xh

Well, all I can tell ya is: it is not happening here.
Only thing I did after network came alive is
1. dnf update
2. dnf install these mate packages (with --skip-broken option)

mate-applet-softupd.x86_64 0.4.6-3.fc27  fedora
mate-applet-streamer.x86_64 0.4.0-2.fc27  
rpmfusion-free

mate-applets.x86_64 1.19.4-1.fc27 updates
mate-backgrounds.noarch 1.19.0-1.fc27 fedora
mate-calc.x86_64 1.19.0-1.fc27 fedora
mate-common.noarch 1.19.0-1.fc27 fedora
mate-control-center.x86_64 1.19.2-1.fc27 updates
mate-control-center-devel.i686 1.19.2-1.fc27 
updates
mate-control-center-devel.x86_64 1.19.2-1.fc27 
updates
mate-control-center-filesystem.i686 
1.19.2-1.fc27 updates
mate-control-center-filesystem.x86_64 
1.19.2-1.fc27 updates

mate-desktop.x86_64 1.19.2-1.fc27 updates
mate-desktop-devel.i686 1.19.2-1.fc27 updates
mate-desktop-devel.x86_64 1.19.2-1.fc27 updates
mate-desktop-libs.x86_64 1.19.2-1.fc27 updates
mate-dictionary.x86_64 1.19.1-1.fc27 updates
mate-disk-usage-analyzer.x86_64 1.19.1-1.fc27 
updates

mate-icon-theme.noarch 1.19.0-1.fc27 fedora
mate-icon-theme-faenza.noarch 1.19.0-1.fc27 fedora
mate-media.x86_64 1.19.1-1.fc27 fedora
mate-menu.noarch 17.10.1-2.fc27fedora
mate-menus.x86_64 1.19.0-1.fc27 fedora
mate-menus-devel.x86_64 1.19.0-1.fc27 fedora
mate-menus-libs.x86_64 1.19.0-1.fc27 fedora
mate-menus-preferences-category-menu.x86_64 
1.19.0-1.fc27 fedora
mate-notification-daemon.x86_64 1.19.1-1.fc27 
updates

mate-panel.x86_64 1.19.4-1.fc27 updates
mate-panel-devel.x86_64 1.19.4-1.fc27 updates
mate-panel-libs.x86_64 1.19.4-1.fc27 updates
mate-polkit.x86_64 1.19.0-1.fc27 updates
mate-polkit-devel.x86_64 1.19.0-1.fc27 updates
mate-power-manager.x86_64 1.19.1-1.fc27 updates
mate-screensaver.x86_64 1.19.1-1.fc27 updates
mate-screensaver-devel.x86_64 1.19.1-1.fc27 updates
mate-screenshot.x86_64 1.19.1-1.fc27 updates
mate-search-tool.x86_64 1.19.1-1.fc27 updates
mate-sensors-applet.x86_64 1.19.1-1.fc27 updates
mate-sensors-applet-devel.x86_64 1.19.1-1.fc27 
updates

mate-session-manager.x86_64 1.19.1-1.fc27 updates
mate-settings-daemon.x86_64 1.19.1-1.fc27 updates
mate-settings-daemon-devel.x86_64 1.19.1-1.fc27 
updates

mate-system-log.x86_64 1.19.1-1.fc27 updates
mate-system-monitor.x86_64 1.19.1-1.fc27 updates
mate-terminal.x86_64 1.19.1-1.fc27 updates
mate-themes.noarch 3.22.14-2.fc27fedora
mate-user-guide.noarch 1.19.0-1.fc27 fedora
mate-utils.x86_64 1.19.1-1.fc27 updates
mate-utils-common.noarch 1.19.1-1.fc27 updates
mate-utils-devel.x86_64 1.19.1-1.fc27 updates

and they installed without a hitch.
So, your experience with it does not match mine :(
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mate dt on fc27 workstation

2018-01-26 Thread JD

I am unable to increase the number of workspaces.
When I right-click on the only visible workspace icon on the panel,
and I click on Preferences, I do not get a gui that lets me increase
the number of workspaces. I only get a small panel which lets the user
choose how many columns to display the workspaces in.

Will I be able to install an older release like from fc26 or fc25
to see how they will behave?

Thanx.
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Re: downloading ALL Packages of a fedora release.

2018-01-26 Thread JD
It's quite alright.
At any rate, the fedora release packages would not have helped a lot,
because the crucial packages had to come from rpmfusion in order
to enable the functioning of the broadcom 4322 chipset.
Cheers,
JD

On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 2:18 AM, Terry Polzin  wrote:

>
>
> On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 8:30 PM, JD  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On 01/25/2018 07:14 AM, Terry Polzin wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 8:38 AM, Terry Polzin >> <mailto:foxec...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 8:35 PM, JD >> <mailto:jd1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 01/14/2018 02:22 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>>>
>>> On 01/15/18 05:19, Ed Greshko wrote:
>>>
>>> kernel-devel  x86_64 4.14.13-300.fc27
>>> updates 12 M
>>>   kernel-headersx86_64 4.14.13-300.fc27
>>>   updates1.2 M
>>>
>>>
>>> Note these packages are from updates.  If the laptop
>>> system hasn't been updated one
>>> can use
>>>
>>> dnf --disablerepo updates --downloadonly
>>> --downloaddir=/tmp install broadcom-wl
>>>
>>> to get
>>>
>>>   kernel-devel  x86_64 4.13.9-300.fc27  fedora
>>>  11 M
>>>   kernel-headersx86_64 4.13.9-300.fc27  fedora
>>> 1.2 M
>>>
>>> All done and installed and all is well on my friend's f27 laptop.
>>> The snag I ran into had to do with the fact that the un-networked
>>> laptop, while trying to install the broadcom rpm and the
>>> dependencies,
>>> kept throwing me a curve: dnf kep saying it was unable to sync
>>> with the
>>> repositories: updates, fedora, rpmfusion
>>>
>>> How could it, since I was trying to install the very things
>>> that WOULD
>>> enable it to sync.
>>> So, before I gave up, I added the command argument:
>>> --disablerepo=*
>>> and lo and behold all the rpms in question got installed, and
>>> I rebooted,
>>> and the network was on. Ran updates. All is well.
>>>
>>> Thanx a lot!!
>>>
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>>>
>>> I don't believe that the workstation ISO will have what you need,
>>> as it is a netinstall image.
>>> You will probably want the server image,  I'm downloading that to
>>> check it now.
>>>
>>>
>>> JD
>>>
>>> The server iso has what you need,
>>>
>>> Yes you are right, but it is too late now :)
>>
>> I should have looked there myself :)
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Re: downloading ALL Packages of a fedora release.

2018-01-25 Thread JD



On 01/25/2018 07:14 AM, Terry Polzin wrote:



On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 8:38 AM, Terry Polzin <mailto:foxec...@gmail.com>> wrote:




On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 8:35 PM, JD mailto:jd1...@gmail.com>> wrote:



On 01/14/2018 02:22 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 01/15/18 05:19, Ed Greshko wrote:

kernel-devel  x86_64 4.14.13-300.fc27   
 updates 12 M
  kernel-headersx86_64 4.14.13-300.fc27   
 updates1.2 M



Note these packages are from updates.  If the laptop
system hasn't been updated one
can use

dnf --disablerepo updates --downloadonly
--downloaddir=/tmp install broadcom-wl

to get

  kernel-devel  x86_64 4.13.9-300.fc27  fedora
 11 M
  kernel-headersx86_64 4.13.9-300.fc27  fedora
1.2 M

All done and installed and all is well on my friend's f27 laptop.
The snag I ran into had to do with the fact that the un-networked
laptop, while trying to install the broadcom rpm and the
dependencies,
kept throwing me a curve: dnf kep saying it was unable to sync
with the
repositories: updates, fedora, rpmfusion

How could it, since I was trying to install the very things
that WOULD
enable it to sync.
So, before I gave up, I added the command argument:
--disablerepo=*
and lo and behold all the rpms in question got installed, and
I rebooted,
and the network was on. Ran updates. All is well.

Thanx a lot!!

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I don't believe that the workstation ISO will have what you need,
as it is a netinstall image.
You will probably want the server image,  I'm downloading that to
check it now.


JD

The server iso has what you need,


Yes you are right, but it is too late now :)

I should have looked there myself :)
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Re: downloading ALL Packages of a fedora release.

2018-01-24 Thread JD



On 01/14/2018 02:22 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 01/15/18 05:19, Ed Greshko wrote:

kernel-devel  x86_64 4.14.13-300.fc27 updates12 
M
  kernel-headersx86_64 4.14.13-300.fc27 updates   
1.2 M


Note these packages are from updates.  If the laptop system hasn't been updated 
one
can use

dnf --disablerepo updates --downloadonly --downloaddir=/tmp install broadcom-wl

to get

  kernel-devel  x86_64 4.13.9-300.fc27  fedora 
11 M
  kernel-headersx86_64 4.13.9-300.fc27  fedora
1.2 M

All done and installed and all is well on my friend's f27 laptop.
The snag I ran into had to do with the fact that the un-networked
laptop, while trying to install the broadcom rpm and the dependencies,
kept throwing me a curve: dnf kep saying it was unable to sync with the
repositories: updates, fedora, rpmfusion

How could it, since I was trying to install the very things that WOULD
enable it to sync.
So, before I gave up, I added the command argument:
--disablerepo=*
and lo and behold all the rpms in question got installed, and I rebooted,
and the network was on. Ran updates. All is well.

Thanx a lot!!
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Re: downloading ALL Packages of a fedora release.

2018-01-23 Thread JD
Terry,
have you looked inside F27 workstation install iso?
Please take a look, and tell me if the release packages
are ALL there.

On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 7:21 PM, Terry Polzin  wrote:

> Can't you mount an install iso and use it as a local repo?
>
> On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 2:14 PM, JD  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On 01/14/2018 02:22 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>>
>>> On 01/15/18 05:19, Ed Greshko wrote:
>>>
>>>> kernel-devel  x86_64 4.14.13-300.fc27 updates
>>>>   12 M
>>>>   kernel-headersx86_64 4.14.13-300.fc27 updates
>>>>1.2 M
>>>>
>>>
>>> Note these packages are from updates.  If the laptop system hasn't been
>>> updated one
>>> can use
>>>
>>> dnf --disablerepo updates --downloadonly --downloaddir=/tmp install
>>> broadcom-wl
>>>
>>> to get
>>>
>>>   kernel-devel  x86_64 4.13.9-300.fc27  fedora
>>>11 M
>>>   kernel-headersx86_64 4.13.9-300.fc27  fedora
>>>   1.2 M
>>>
>>> When doing the --downloadonly,
>> how do I disable the dependencies, since they are NOT crucial to
>> networking the
>> fc27 machine?
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