Re: [OT] HP Officejet Pro 8620
On 06/23/2015 04:14 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: It's pretty easy to build from the source tarball if you've ever done that sort of thing before. If not, I can try to build it for you. Email me offline with your laptop's config (OS, desktop, etc.) and I'll see what I can do. Actually, there IS a 32-bit version available via dnf/yum/whatever. Not sure which repo it's in, but looking at kernel.org's stuff, I see the RPM at http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/releases/22/Everything/i386/os/Packages/k/keepassx-0.4.3-11.fc22.i686.rpm So you could: $ cd /tmp $ wget http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/releases/22/Everything/i386/os/Packages/k/keepassx-0.4.3-11.fc22.i686.rpm $ sudo dnf install keepassx-0.4.3-11.fc22.i686.rpm If you want to build it from the tarball, you need the C++ tools, the qt-devel RPM, the libXtst-devel RPM and probably others as well. You could also install the source RPM and hope it pulls in all the requirements. replied to [OFF-LIST] because this has gotten away from intent of users@lists.fedoraproject.org. thank you to all who replied. i am most great full for the help and tolerance. ;-) -- peace out. -+- If Bill Gates got a dime for every time Windows crashes... ...oh, wait. He does. THAT explains it! -+- in a world with out fences, who needs gates. -+- CentOS GNU/Linux 6.6 tc,hago. g . -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: [OT] HP Officejet Pro 8620
On 06/24/2015 06:28 AM, g wrote: On 06/24/2015 12:42 AM, Tim wrote: Do you test it from time to time? I wonder about the longevity of flash drives, particularly when in a static-creating environment. I know some don't last long very well, but whether that's just down to self-decay, or accelerated by external factors, I don't know. . good question. best answers i can give are; 1- nope. 2- it is a metal enclosed, approx 30.0 mm x 12.0 mm x 4.0 mm, around an inner plastic housing that has a key-fob with a 35.0 mm long loop cord. 3- i have a directory on my system hdd that i write into to build what i want to carry with me. when i update, i 'rsync' from hdd to usb, then i 'du -sb' hdd directory, then same for usb and compare the 2. granted, such does not give a byte for byte check, but when my 'round2it' rolls to it, i hope to come up with good a way to run a checksum of a directory path to verify what is on usb drive to what is on hdd. [accepting suggestions] hhmmm. every go to sleep thinking about something, then wake up thinking about it and answer hits you? as long as i am zipping and encrypting personal data to a file, i may just as well zip non personal files. then i have 2 files that i can create checksums for on hdd and copy them to usb flash drive. to take it 1 step further, run checksums for the checksums. ;-) -- peace out. -+- If Bill Gates got a dime for every time Windows crashes... ...oh, wait. He does. THAT explains it! -+- in a world with out fences, who needs gates. -+- CentOS GNU/Linux 6.6 tc,hago. g . -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: [OT] HP Officejet Pro 8620
On 06/23/2015 07:46 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 06/23/2015 01:40 PM, g wrote: Robert and Ralf, On 06/22/2015 10:31 AM, ken wrote: For some reason the tech support people at Hewlett-Packard don't know what the default password is to access their printer's embedded web server (EWS). AFAICT, the factory-default is admin and no/empty password. Its users manual is here: http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c04204791 I got it myself from the installation manual six months ago and immediately set my own password which I have used since then, so I no longer remember what the default is. (It's really a longer story than that, but) So I was just hoping that someone here might know what that default password is. Mine is an Officejet Pro 8620, but perhaps some other, recent HP printer default password would work. BTW: AFAICT, sw-wise all HP 86xxs (8610, 8620, 8630, ...) are very similar, so his question should also apply to these. (Yes, I've already tried various versions of admin, an empty password, and others, but just not anything which has worked.) as he states, he has gone thru various 'incantations' to get into printer, but all are failing and no user on centos list has same printer to be able to help. #1 item to try would be to try on the printer's touch-display. Most settings are available there, too. I never tried this on my printer for hopefully understandable reasons, but if desperate, I'd try a factory reset (cf. the manual). he did, and that is when the fit really hit the shan. ;-) personally, if i had such a printer on my system and i changed a factory password, it would be to my user password or root user password. neither of which i have/will/would forget. plus, something like this is an ideal reason to use the desktop's password wallet, it it has one. write it to a file somewhere. My wild guess on the cause of I know my passwd is correct, but can't log into it anymore would be firewalls (on computer, router and printer) or problems related to the basic network setup (dhcp, https, etc). thanks again for your response. Welcome, nevertheless, I doubt my response will be of much help :( . better than no response. :-) again, i thank you for your reply. -- peace out. -+- If Bill Gates got a dime for every time Windows crashes... ...oh, wait. He does. THAT explains it! -+- in a world with out fences, who needs gates. -+- CentOS GNU/Linux 6.6 tc,hago. g . -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: [OT] HP Officejet Pro 8620
On 06/23/2015 01:40 PM, g wrote: Robert and Ralf, On 06/22/2015 10:31 AM, ken wrote: For some reason the tech support people at Hewlett-Packard don't know what the default password is to access their printer's embedded web server (EWS). AFAICT, the factory-default is admin and no/empty password. Its users manual is here: http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c04204791 I got it myself from the installation manual six months ago and immediately set my own password which I have used since then, so I no longer remember what the default is. (It's really a longer story than that, but) So I was just hoping that someone here might know what that default password is. Mine is an Officejet Pro 8620, but perhaps some other, recent HP printer default password would work. BTW: AFAICT, sw-wise all HP 86xxs (8610, 8620, 8630, ...) are very similar, so his question should also apply to these. (Yes, I've already tried various versions of admin, an empty password, and others, but just not anything which has worked.) as he states, he has gone thru various 'incantations' to get into printer, but all are failing and no user on centos list has same printer to be able to help. #1 item to try would be to try on the printer's touch-display. Most settings are available there, too. I never tried this on my printer for hopefully understandable reasons, but if desperate, I'd try a factory reset (cf. the manual). My wild guess on the cause of I know my passwd is correct, but can't log into it anymore would be firewalls (on computer, router and printer) or problems related to the basic network setup (dhcp, https, etc). thanks again for your response. Welcome, nevertheless, I doubt my response will be of much help :( Ralf -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: [OT] HP Officejet Pro 8620
On 06/23/2015 08:24 AM, g wrote: On 06/23/2015 07:46 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 06/23/2015 01:40 PM, g wrote: Robert and Ralf, On 06/22/2015 10:31 AM, ken wrote: For some reason the tech support people at Hewlett-Packard don't know what the default password is to access their printer's embedded web server (EWS). AFAICT, the factory-default is admin and no/empty password. Its users manual is here: http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c04204791 I got it myself from the installation manual six months ago and immediately set my own password which I have used since then, so I no longer remember what the default is. (It's really a longer story than that, but) So I was just hoping that someone here might know what that default password is. Mine is an Officejet Pro 8620, but perhaps some other, recent HP printer default password would work. BTW: AFAICT, sw-wise all HP 86xxs (8610, 8620, 8630, ...) are very similar, so his question should also apply to these. (Yes, I've already tried various versions of admin, an empty password, and others, but just not anything which has worked.) as he states, he has gone thru various 'incantations' to get into printer, but all are failing and no user on centos list has same printer to be able to help. #1 item to try would be to try on the printer's touch-display. Most settings are available there, too. I never tried this on my printer for hopefully understandable reasons, but if desperate, I'd try a factory reset (cf. the manual). he did, and that is when the fit really hit the shan. ;-) personally, if i had such a printer on my system and i changed a factory password, it would be to my user password or root user password. neither of which i have/will/would forget. plus, something like this is an ideal reason to use the desktop's password wallet, it it has one. write it to a file somewhere. I use KeePassX and carry its db file around on a USB thumb drive on my keychain. I also have it on my Android phone, just in case and there's versions of it around for danged near any OS/phone/tablet around. -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigitalri...@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 226437340 Yahoo: origrps2 - -- -I don't suffer from insanity...I enjoy every minute of it! - -- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: [OT] HP Officejet Pro 8620
On 06/23/2015 12:12 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: On 23/06/15 12:44, Rick Stevens wrote: I use KeePassX and carry its db file around on a USB thumb drive on my keychain. I also have it on my Android phone, just in case and there's versions of it around for danged near any OS/phone/tablet around. -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigital / //I just installed KeePassX via Yumex. It looks like I could use it if I could get a decent display, as it is it's horrible. Small low contrast gray text!// // //I found an item Googling that suggested it could be fixed in qtconfig but I can't find that.// // //Any idea how to fix my problem?// // //Bob// / Looks fine on Gnome 3 running on the desktop. RBM -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: [OT] HP Officejet Pro 8620
On 06/23/2015 11:12 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: On 23/06/15 12:44, Rick Stevens wrote: I use KeePassX and carry its db file around on a USB thumb drive on my keychain. I also have it on my Android phone, just in case and there's versions of it around for danged near any OS/phone/tablet around. -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigital / //I just installed KeePassX via Yumex. It looks like I could use it if I could get a decent display, as it is it's horrible. Small low contrast gray text!// // //I found an item Googling that suggested it could be fixed in qtconfig but I can't find that.// // //Any idea how to fix my problem?// Dunno which desktop you're using, Bob, but under XFCE, I think you can Applications Menu--Settings--Appearance--Fonts tab Change your fonts and stuff there. Keep in mind this will affect ALL of your desktop settings. I use Sans 10 Enable anti-aliasing checked Hinting: Full Sub-pixel order: None Custom DPI enabled at 96 DPI Your mileage may vary. -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigitalri...@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 226437340 Yahoo: origrps2 - -- - NEWS FLASH! Intelligence of mankind decreasing! Details at... - - uh, when, uh, the little hand is, uh, on the... Aw, NUTS! - -- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: [OT] HP Officejet Pro 8620
On 06/23/2015 04:44 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: I use KeePassX and carry its db file around on a USB thumb drive on my keychain. I also have it on my Android phone, just in case and there's versions of it around for danged near any OS/phone/tablet around. . great minds think alike. :-D i carry around a pny 64G0 usb memory with legal docs, birth and death certificates, passwords, moz bookmarks and address book in moz format, html, and text, along with a few other important files. all of which is in an encrypted file. yes, i well remember how to decrypt file. ;-) a long time friend uses his cellphone for his carry around 'vault' as he calls it. i went to KeePassX.org to read what it is about. and liked what i read, so i now have KeePassX installed on my 64 bit tower to read up on later. thanks for passing that along. it is a shame that it is not available in 32 bit so i could install it on my 32 bit laptop. :-( and i thank you for posting to this thread. -- peace out. -+- If Bill Gates got a dime for every time Windows crashes... ...oh, wait. He does. THAT explains it! -+- in a world with out fences, who needs gates. -+- CentOS GNU/Linux 6.6 tc,hago. g . -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: [OT] HP Officejet Pro 8620
On 23/06/15 12:44, Rick Stevens wrote: I use KeePassX and carry its db file around on a USB thumb drive on my keychain. I also have it on my Android phone, just in case and there's versions of it around for danged near any OS/phone/tablet around. -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigital / //I just installed KeePassX via Yumex. It looks like I could use it if I could get a decent display, as it is it's horrible. Small low contrast gray text!// // //I found an item Googling that suggested it could be fixed in qtconfig but I can't find that.// // //Any idea how to fix my problem?// // //Bob// / -- Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA http://www.qrz.com/db/W2BOD box10 FEDORA-22/64bit LINUX XFCE -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: [OT] HP Officejet Pro 8620
On 06/23/2015 11:31 AM, g wrote: On 06/23/2015 04:44 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: I use KeePassX and carry its db file around on a USB thumb drive on my keychain. I also have it on my Android phone, just in case and there's versions of it around for danged near any OS/phone/tablet around. . great minds think alike. :-D Well, YOUR mind might be great, mine is a bit fuzzy and wonky! i carry around a pny 64G0 usb memory with legal docs, birth and death certificates, passwords, moz bookmarks and address book in moz format, html, and text, along with a few other important files. all of which is in an encrypted file. yes, i well remember how to decrypt file. ;-) a long time friend uses his cellphone for his carry around 'vault' as he calls it. i went to KeePassX.org to read what it is about. and liked what i read, so i now have KeePassX installed on my 64 bit tower to read up on later. Good deal! It seems to have a pretty wide availability. thanks for passing that along. it is a shame that it is not available in 32 bit so i could install it on my 32 bit laptop. :-( It's pretty easy to build from the source tarball if you've ever done that sort of thing before. If not, I can try to build it for you. Email me offline with your laptop's config (OS, desktop, etc.) and I'll see what I can do. and i thank you for posting to this thread. I'm sure you'd find many others wishing I'd shut-the-h*** up! :-D -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigitalri...@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 226437340 Yahoo: origrps2 - -- - C program run. C program crash. C programmer quit. - -- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: [OT] HP Officejet Pro 8620
On 06/23/2015 12:04 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: On 06/23/2015 11:31 AM, g wrote: On 06/23/2015 04:44 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: I use KeePassX and carry its db file around on a USB thumb drive on my keychain. I also have it on my Android phone, just in case and there's versions of it around for danged near any OS/phone/tablet around. . great minds think alike. :-D Well, YOUR mind might be great, mine is a bit fuzzy and wonky! i carry around a pny 64G0 usb memory with legal docs, birth and death certificates, passwords, moz bookmarks and address book in moz format, html, and text, along with a few other important files. all of which is in an encrypted file. yes, i well remember how to decrypt file. ;-) a long time friend uses his cellphone for his carry around 'vault' as he calls it. i went to KeePassX.org to read what it is about. and liked what i read, so i now have KeePassX installed on my 64 bit tower to read up on later. Good deal! It seems to have a pretty wide availability. thanks for passing that along. it is a shame that it is not available in 32 bit so i could install it on my 32 bit laptop. :-( It's pretty easy to build from the source tarball if you've ever done that sort of thing before. If not, I can try to build it for you. Email me offline with your laptop's config (OS, desktop, etc.) and I'll see what I can do. Actually, there IS a 32-bit version available via dnf/yum/whatever. Not sure which repo it's in, but looking at kernel.org's stuff, I see the RPM at http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/releases/22/Everything/i386/os/Packages/k/keepassx-0.4.3-11.fc22.i686.rpm So you could: $ cd /tmp $ wget http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/releases/22/Everything/i386/os/Packages/k/keepassx-0.4.3-11.fc22.i686.rpm $ sudo dnf install keepassx-0.4.3-11.fc22.i686.rpm If you want to build it from the tarball, you need the C++ tools, the qt-devel RPM, the libXtst-devel RPM and probably others as well. You could also install the source RPM and hope it pulls in all the requirements. -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigitalri...@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 226437340 Yahoo: origrps2 - -- -Hello. My PID is Inigo Montoya. You `kill -9'-ed my parent- - process. Prepare to vi. - -- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: [OT] HP Officejet Pro 8620
Allegedly, on or about 23 June 2015, g sent: i carry around a pny 64G0 usb memory with legal docs, birth and death certificates, passwords, moz bookmarks and address book in moz format, html, and text, along with a few other important files. Do you test it from time to time? I wonder about the longevity of flash drives, particularly when in a static-creating environment. I know some don't last long very well, but whether that's just down to self-decay, or accelerated by external factors, I don't know. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.9.10-100.fc17.x86_64 #1 SMP Sun Jul 14 01:31:27 UTC 2013 x86_64 All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point trying to privately email me, I will only read messages posted to the public lists. ZNQR LBH YBBX! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
[OT] HP Officejet Pro 8620
greetings. anyone on this list using an HP Officejet Pro 8620? question regarding this exact model. tia. -- peace out. -+- If Bill Gates got a dime for every time Windows crashes... ...oh, wait. He does. THAT explains it! -+- in a world with out fences, who needs gates. -+- CentOS GNU/Linux 6.6 tc,hago. g . -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: [OT] HP Officejet Pro 8620
On 06/23/2015 11:14 AM, g wrote: greetings. anyone on this list using an HP Officejet Pro 8620? Yes, I own one of these. Ralf -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: [Bulk] [OT] HP Officejet Pro 8620
The wife and I each have one. What's your question? Rob On 23/06/15 05:14 AM, g wrote: greetings. anyone on this list using an HP Officejet Pro 8620? question regarding this exact model. tia. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: [OT] HP Officejet Pro 8620
Robert and Ralf, thank you both for responding. On 06/23/2015 04:31 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 06/23/2015 11:14 AM, g wrote: greetings. anyone on this list using an HP Officejet Pro 8620? Yes, I own one of these. Ralf On 06/23/2015 04:55 AM, Robert Aston wrote: The wife and I each have one. What's your question? Rob On 23/06/15 05:14 AM, g wrote: greetings. anyone on this list using an HP Officejet Pro 8620? question regarding this exact model. tia. a user, ken geb...@mousecar.com, on the centos user list has the same printer and posted a problem. On 06/22/2015 10:31 AM, ken wrote: For some reason the tech support people at Hewlett-Packard don't know what the default password is to access their printer's embedded web server (EWS). I got it myself from the installation manual six months ago and immediately set my own password which I have used since then, so I no longer remember what the default is. (It's really a longer story than that, but) So I was just hoping that someone here might know what that default password is. Mine is an Officejet Pro 8620, but perhaps some other, recent HP printer default password would work. (Yes, I've already tried various versions of admin, an empty password, and others, but just not anything which has worked.) as he states, he has gone thru various 'incantations' to get into printer, but all are failing and no user on centos list has same printer to be able to help. so far, there has been 25 posting to thread with no solution, so, i thought that if there was a fedora user who had same printer, you might have an answer. it is not that i am tired of reading thread. ;-) it is that Ken seems a bit lost and desperate for help and he is not finding any. therefore, to try to help, i posted to this list. so, if either of you would pass along an answer, i will pass it along to Ken on the centos thread. also, i presume that his email address is correct and i Bcc: to him. thanks again for your response. -- peace out. -+- If Bill Gates got a dime for every time Windows crashes... ...oh, wait. He does. THAT explains it! -+- in a world with out fences, who needs gates. -+- CentOS GNU/Linux 6.6 tc,hago. g . -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
