Re: Upgrade Fedora 38 to Fedora 39 . Install problem with FFmeg.

2023-11-10 Thread Robert McBroom via users


On 11/10/23 11:26, Ger van Dijck wrote:


On 11/9/23 21:16, Ger van Dijck wrote:


On 11/8/23 18:54, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 11/8/23 08:51, Ger van Dijck wrote:
While upgrading I had one problem : I had to allowerasing ffmpeg : 
dnf advised to use skip-broken.


When I want to install (dnf install ffmpeg) there seem to be problems.


To get better answers you need to provide more details, like what 
exactly was the "problem", including all the messages from dnf.



The message from dnf is as follows:

Error/Problem

ffmpeg.6-0-16.fc39.x86_64 from rpmfusion requires 
ffmpeg-libs(x86_64)=6.0-16.fc39 but none of the profiderscan be 
installed.


Conflicting/Requests

Nothing provides libopenh264.so7 (64 bit) neede by 
ffmpeg-lib.6.0-16.fc39.x86_64 from rpm fusion.


try to add --skip-broken : I did but no results.


What now ?


use the dnf option

 --exclude=ffmpeg

to get the bulk upgrade done. Then you can woke on ffmpeg
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Re: Upgrade Fedora 38 to Fedora 39 . Install problem with FFmeg.

2023-11-10 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 10 Nov 2023 16:42:59 +
ja wrote:

> From someone on this list?
> 
> dnf swap ffmpeg-free ffmpeg --allowerasing
> 
> Replaces the incompatible stuff in the fedora repos with the "normal" stuff 
> from rpmfusion.

I've got that in my notes as one of the first things I do now (after
installing the rpmfusion repos, of course).
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Re: Upgrade Fedora 38 to Fedora 39 . Install problem with FFmeg.

2023-11-10 Thread ja
On Fri, 2023-11-10 at 17:26 +0100, Ger van Dijck wrote:
> 
> On 11/9/23 21:16, Ger van Dijck wrote:
> > 
> > On 11/8/23 18:54, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> > > On 11/8/23 08:51, Ger van Dijck wrote:
> > > > While upgrading I had one problem : I had to allowerasing ffmpeg : 
> > > > dnf advised to use skip-broken.
> > > > 
> > > > When I want to install (dnf install ffmpeg) there seem to be problems.
> > > 
> > > To get better answers you need to provide more details, like what 
> > > exactly was the "problem", including all the messages from dnf.
> > 
> > 
> > The message from dnf is as follows:
> > 
> > Error/Problem
> > 
> > ffmpeg.6-0-16.fc39.x86_64 from rpmfusion requires 
> > ffmpeg-libs(x86_64)=6.0-16.fc39 but none of the profiderscan be 
> > installed.
> > 
> > Conflicting/Requests
> > 
> > Nothing provides libopenh264.so7 (64 bit) neede by 
> > ffmpeg-lib.6.0-16.fc39.x86_64 from rpm fusion.
> > 
> > try to add --skip-broken : I did but no results.
> > 
> > 
> > What now ?
> > 
> > Ger van Dijck.
> > 

> > 
From someone on this list?

dnf swap ffmpeg-free ffmpeg --allowerasing

Replaces the incompatible stuff in the fedora repos with the "normal" stuff 
from rpmfusion.

John
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Re: Upgrade Fedora 38 to Fedora 39 . Install problem with FFmeg.

2023-11-10 Thread Ger van Dijck


On 11/9/23 21:16, Ger van Dijck wrote:


On 11/8/23 18:54, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 11/8/23 08:51, Ger van Dijck wrote:
While upgrading I had one problem : I had to allowerasing ffmpeg : 
dnf advised to use skip-broken.


When I want to install (dnf install ffmpeg) there seem to be problems.


To get better answers you need to provide more details, like what 
exactly was the "problem", including all the messages from dnf.



The message from dnf is as follows:

Error/Problem

ffmpeg.6-0-16.fc39.x86_64 from rpmfusion requires 
ffmpeg-libs(x86_64)=6.0-16.fc39 but none of the profiderscan be 
installed.


Conflicting/Requests

Nothing provides libopenh264.so7 (64 bit) neede by 
ffmpeg-lib.6.0-16.fc39.x86_64 from rpm fusion.


try to add --skip-broken : I did but no results.


What now ?

Ger van Dijck.


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Re: Upgrade Fedora 38 to Fedora 39 . Install problem with FFmeg.

2023-11-09 Thread Ger van Dijck


On 11/8/23 18:54, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 11/8/23 08:51, Ger van Dijck wrote:
While upgrading I had one problem : I had to allowerasing ffmpeg : 
dnf advised to use skip-broken.


When I want to install (dnf install ffmpeg) there seem to be problems.


To get better answers you need to provide more details, like what 
exactly was the "problem", including all the messages from dnf.



The message from dnf is as follows:

Error/Problem

ffmpeg.6-0-16.fc39.x86_64 from rpmfusion requires 
ffmpeg-libs(x86_64)=6.0-16.fc39 but none of the profiderscan be installed.


Conflicting/Requests

Nothing provides libopenh264.so7 (64 bit) neede by 
ffmpeg-lib.6.0-16.fc39.x86_64 from rpm fusion.


try to add --skip-broken : I did but no results.


What now ?

Ger van Dijck.


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Re: Upgrade Fedora 38 to Fedora 39 . Install problem with FFmeg.

2023-11-08 Thread Michael D. Setzer II via users
On 8 Nov 2023 at 17:51, Ger van Dijck wrote:

To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Date sent:  Wed, 08 Nov 2023 17:51:19 +0100
Subject:Upgrade Fedora 38 to Fedora 39 . Install problem 
with FFmeg.
From:   "Ger van Dijck" 
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> 
> Hay Fedora users,
> 
> I upgraded Fedora 38 to Fedora 39 0n a Dell laptop N3701 ( more than 10  
> years old !) without problems.
> 
> Great !
> 
> and Fedora39 runs perfectly  : More Great 

I just upgraded a Lenovo Thinkpad R60 (think it goes back to 
2006? Have 4G Ram, but only sees 3G

Upgrade went fine. Only issue I've had is Tigervnc runs but gave a 
strange gnome windows manager instead of the xfce one it had on 
FC38. Would show a bar at top with 3 dots after, but would do 
nothing. Setup Turbovnc and at first got the same windows 
manager, but found adding -wm xfce to command got a nice xfce 
wm. So, looks like tigervnc will be useless for my needs with 
FC39.




> 
> On this machine I use Windows 10 Professional (unprotected mode / bios and  
> uefi discrepancies) and all runs fine.
> 
> While upgrading I had one problem : I had to allowerasing ffmpeg : dnf  
> advised to use skip-broken.
> 
> When I want to install (dnf install ffmpeg) there seem to be problems.
> 
> Please advise me.
> 
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Gedr van Dijck.
> 
> 
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Re: Upgrade Fedora 38 to Fedora 39 . Install problem with FFmeg.

2023-11-08 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 11/8/23 08:51, Ger van Dijck wrote:
While upgrading I had one problem : I had to allowerasing ffmpeg : dnf 
advised to use skip-broken.


When I want to install (dnf install ffmpeg) there seem to be problems.


To get better answers you need to provide more details, like what 
exactly was the "problem", including all the messages from dnf.

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Re: Upgrade Fedora 38 to Fedora 39 . Install problem with FFmeg.

2023-11-08 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 11/8/23 10:02, Harald Labes wrote:

Try dnf install ffmpeg-free. That should work. If you want the full
fledged ffmpeg from rpmfusion.org, install the reposetories from
rpmfusion and try dnf install --allowerasing ffmpeg. But be aware that
many of the original packages of fedora are then replaced by rpmfusion
stuff.


Many?  There probably won't be any replaced.  rpmfusion is an extension 
to Fedora.  The only "duplicate" packages are where Fedora includes a 
crippled version of the original package and rpmfusion has the full 
version.  e.g. ffmpeg

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Re: Upgrade Fedora 38 to Fedora 39 . Install problem with FFmeg.

2023-11-08 Thread Andre Robatino
Here is the RPMFusion page advising to replace ffmpeg-free with ffmpeg. It uses 
dnf swap.

https://rpmfusion.org/Howto/Multimedia
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Re: Upgrade Fedora 38 to Fedora 39 . Install problem with FFmeg.

2023-11-08 Thread Harald Labes
Try dnf install ffmpeg-free. That should work. If you want the full
fledged ffmpeg from rpmfusion.org, install the reposetories from
rpmfusion and try dnf install --allowerasing ffmpeg. But be aware that
many of the original packages of fedora are then replaced by rpmfusion
stuff.

Cheers
  Harald

On Wed, 2023-11-08 at 17:51 +0100, Ger van Dijck wrote:
> 
> Hay Fedora users,
> 
> I upgraded Fedora 38 to Fedora 39 0n a Dell laptop N3701 ( more than
> 10  
> years old !) without problems.
> 
> Great !
> 
> and Fedora39 runs perfectly  : More Great 
> 
> On this machine I use Windows 10 Professional (unprotected mode /
> bios and  
> uefi discrepancies) and all runs fine.
> 
> While upgrading I had one problem : I had to allowerasing ffmpeg :
> dnf  
> advised to use skip-broken.
> 
> When I want to install (dnf install ffmpeg) there seem to be
> problems.
> 
> Please advise me.
> 
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Gedr van Dijck.
> 
> 
> 
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Upgrade Fedora 38 to Fedora 39 . Install problem with FFmeg.

2023-11-08 Thread Ger van Dijck


Hay Fedora users,

I upgraded Fedora 38 to Fedora 39 0n a Dell laptop N3701 ( more than 10  
years old !) without problems.


Great !

and Fedora39 runs perfectly  : More Great 

On this machine I use Windows 10 Professional (unprotected mode / bios and  
uefi discrepancies) and all runs fine.


While upgrading I had one problem : I had to allowerasing ffmpeg : dnf  
advised to use skip-broken.


When I want to install (dnf install ffmpeg) there seem to be problems.

Please advise me.



Regards,

Gedr van Dijck.



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Re: Fedora31 install problem -

2019-11-01 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 11/1/19 5:34 PM, john.mel...@gmail.com wrote:

The workaround was simple - just add an EFI boot selection to the BIOS
list before all others, and it now boots as expected.  As to why the
installer chose to install an EFI image when the machine was not
configured to use EFI, I have filed a bug on the problem.  See
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1767838 for details.


Anaconda can only do an EFI install if it was booted in EFI mode.  I've 
commented in the bug.

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Re: Fedora31 install problem -

2019-11-01 Thread john . mellor
On Fri, 2019-11-01 at 12:06 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote:
> On 10/31/19 23:43, Tim via users wrote:
> > You could go back to gparted, and remove your partitions, making it
> > a
> > blank drive.
> .
> Tim:
> 
> That is what the Anaconda installerwanted. I created a new "1 TB" 
> partition wit gparted and then it went without any problems.It just 
> popped up the Complete notice, next to reboot on the new installation
> on 
> sata1, I use separate droves for different versions, sata2 has F-30 
> upgraded on it, and there is another drive, I forget what is there.
> 
> I don't know that Fedora 31 will get much use anyway but I have to
> give 
> it a try. This is Fedora 29 and works best for my needs,
> unfortunately 
> it will no longer be supported by Fedora a few weeks. It is the last 
> that permits running a version of Thunderbird for which there is a 
> working add-on "Tonequilla" that allows me to have voice messages 
> associated with message filters. I can be working downstairs and
> hear 
> when a message arrives from a particular source/user for which I
> long 
> ago created voice announcements. That and the white text on black
> are 
> essential requirements for me. I found themes that take care of the
> text 
> color scheme and most likely that will continue to work Well, Fedora
> 31 
> is installed and dnf upgrade done, next to reconfigure things to do
> what 
> I want. That generally takes a few days. Upgrading pretty much 
> eliminates that effort but I wanted to change things enough so the 
> effort seems justified.

I had a similar experience with a fresh F31 install, which probably is
the root cause of the reported issue.  The machine had previously been
upgraded from F25 through F30, but due to an existing kernel selection
issue, I elected to do a fresh install of F31 instead of an upgrade,
and restore a complete /home backup and reconfigure evolution,
reinstall the missing repos and packages.  It went pretty smoothly
until I rebooted and it could not find a bootable device.

I initially suspected a grub issue, but it looked ok.  I eventually
tracked it down to a curious error in the F31 installer - it installed
an EFI boot image instead of a normal boot image.  Since EFI was not in
the BIOS boot sequence, it failed to find the boot disk.

The workaround was simple - just add an EFI boot selection to the BIOS
list before all others, and it now boots as expected.  As to why the
installer chose to install an EFI image when the machine was not
configured to use EFI, I have filed a bug on the problem.  See 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1767838 for details.

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Re: Fedora31 install problem -

2019-11-01 Thread Bob Goodwin

On 10/31/19 23:43, Tim via users wrote:

You could go back to gparted, and remove your partitions, making it a
blank drive.

.
Tim:

That is what the Anaconda installerwanted. I created a new "1 TB" 
partition wit gparted and then it went without any problems.It just 
popped up the Complete notice, next to reboot on the new installation on 
sata1, I use separate droves for different versions, sata2 has F-30 
upgraded on it, and there is another drive, I forget what is there.


I don't know that Fedora 31 will get much use anyway but I have to give 
it a try. This is Fedora 29 and works best for my needs, unfortunately 
it will no longer be supported by Fedora a few weeks. It is the last 
that permits running a version of Thunderbird for which there is a 
working add-on "Tonequilla" that allows me to have voice messages 
associated with message filters. I can be working downstairs and hear 
when a message arrives from a particular source/user for which I long 
ago created voice announcements. That and the white text on black are 
essential requirements for me. I found themes that take care of the text 
color scheme and most likely that will continue to work Well, Fedora 31 
is installed and dnf upgrade done, next to reconfigure things to do what 
I want. That generally takes a few days. Upgrading pretty much 
eliminates that effort but I wanted to change things enough so the 
effort seems justified.


Thanks to everyone for the help,

Bob

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Re: Fedora31 install problem -

2019-10-31 Thread Tim via users
On Thu, 2019-10-31 at 15:18 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote:
> I have been trying to install Fedora 31XFCE Spin. I've spent more
> time at it than I care to admitbut can"t get the Anaconda installer
> to see a clear one terabyte drive. I re-partitioned it with Gparted
> and gave it an ext4 file system. The problem seems to be that I don't
> want LVM, choosing Standard Partition instead. It seems to want to
> reformat and install ext4 again? That's ok but it never happens ...
> 
> It just keeps showing 0B used and 0B of free space?
> 
> Does anyone know what I may be doing wrong?

I'm unfamiliar with the XFCE spin, but you may be striking this
problem:  The installer wants to make use of unused space, and your
(gparted) created partition isn't considered to be free space.

You could go back to gparted, and remove your partitions, making it a
blank drive.

You can explore your XFCE installer options, to remove all partitions
on a drive, and start from square one.  With other spins, you can do
this relatively painlessly.  If you don't go with automatic settings,
you just have to think carefully about what size partitions you want to
use, and the kind of partitions.

The other way to use a pre-formatted drive, is to go pick your pre-made 
partitions as the *mount* points for the install to use.

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Re: Fedora31 install problem -

2019-10-31 Thread stan via users
On Thu, 31 Oct 2019 16:33:18 -0400
Bob Goodwin  wrote:

> On 10/31/19 16:01, stan via users wrote:
> > Were you trying to install
> > UEFI from a BIOS boot, or vice versa?  Won't work.  
> 
> I'm not sure how that one boots, the last several Fedira's have been 
> upgrades. Maybe I should try the UEFI installer?

Yes, that would be the way to go.  If you edit the boot stanza when
booting the install media, and remove the rhgb and quiet, you should
see a message something like 'Secure boot enabled'. Then you know you
are in UEFI, and the install will be uefi.  You will need to create a
/boot/efi partition as vfat as well as the / partition.  If you have
the room, which it sounds like you do, you should give it a gigabyte or
two.
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Re: Fedora31 install problem -

2019-10-31 Thread Bob Goodwin

On 10/31/19 16:01, stan via users wrote:

Were you trying to install
UEFI from a BIOS boot, or vice versa?  Won't work.


I'm not sure how that one boots, the last several Fedira's have been 
upgrades. Maybe I should try the UEFI installer?


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Re: Fedora31 install problem -

2019-10-31 Thread stan via users
On Thu, 31 Oct 2019 15:34:13 -0400
Bob Goodwin  wrote:

> On 10/31/19 15:25, Joe Zeff wrote:
> > Have you tried selecting a Custom layout?   
> .
> 
> Yes, the alternative is automatic which I believe gives an LVM, not
> what I want.

You configured a / mount point?  Were there any warning messages as you
tried to leave to return to the main hub?  Were you trying to install
UEFI from a BIOS boot, or vice versa?  Won't work.

Maybe take a picture of the custom screen after you've completed your
configuration and post it someplace?
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Re: Fedora31 install problem -

2019-10-31 Thread Bob Goodwin

On 10/31/19 15:25, Joe Zeff wrote:
Have you tried selecting a Custom layout? 

.

Yes, the alternative is automatic which I believe gives an LVM, not what 
I want.


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Re: Fedora31 install problem -

2019-10-31 Thread Joe Zeff

On 10/31/2019 01:18 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote:


I have been trying to install Fedora 31XFCE Spin. I've spent more time 
at it than I care to admitbut can"t get the Anaconda installer to see a 
clear one terabyte drive. I re-partitioned it with Gparted and gave it 
an ext4 file system. The problem seems to be that I don't want LVM, 
choosing Standard Partition instead. It seems to want to reformat and 
install ext4 again? That's ok but it never happens ...


Have you tried selecting a Custom layout?
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Fedora31 install problem -

2019-10-31 Thread Bob Goodwin


.
I have been trying to install Fedora 31XFCE Spin. I've spent more time 
at it than I care to admitbut can"t get the Anaconda installer to see a 
clear one terabyte drive. I re-partitioned it with Gparted and gave it 
an ext4 file system. The problem seems to be that I don't want LVM, 
choosing Standard Partition instead. It seems to want to reformat and 
install ext4 again? That's ok but it never happens ...


It just keeps showing 0B used and 0B of free space?

Does anyone know what I may be doing wrong? Is there a command line 
method to do the install instead of the GUI?


Bob

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Feeling REALLY stupid - Re: F30 install problem on Lenovo x131e

2019-06-24 Thread Robert Moskowitz

Boy is a power issue!

My rats nest of power cables for all my power adapters for all the 
notebooks on my desk...


The adapter for the new notebook was unplugged and I was doing the 
install off of battery.  So just before the install finished, it shut 
off from not enough electrons.  And of course booting again in any shape 
of form would not get the system working.


How did I figure this out?  I bought another x140e on ebay and booted 
the live CD.  First thing I noticed on the status area was I was running 
on battery!


Oy vey.

Really got to get familiar with the various LEDs on the 140, different 
from the 121 that I have been using for lots of years.


So off I go to do the install over, as it did not finish.

On 6/21/19 11:17 PM, Andrey Ponomarenko wrote:

Try to boot on battery only (w/o adapter) and on AC adapter only (w/o battery). 
May be this is a power issue since it is able to start booting.

Memory problems usually lead to BSOD, not power off.

21.06.2019, 18:56, "Robert Moskowitz" :

I am very concerned that the Lenovo x131e is bricked.

I put in the Win10 HD.  It starts to boot and the windows logo starts
spinning and the system promptly shuts down.

It may be memory, and I will have to see if I have any matching memory
here (see if it uses the same as my x120e which I have a number of).

I am concerned this happened at the step where the EFI is updated. This
happened to my back in maybe F21?  There the system would still boot of
LiveCD and we were able to make manual changes for the booting.  But
burned once...

Any recommendations on what I can do with this system?  I will check on
memory, but otherwise, HELP.  Please?

thanks

On 6/20/19 6:40 PM, Igor Bezrodnik wrote:

  Do you know what is your gpu unit?
  Best is if you download liveDVD and try. You like xfce -->
  
https://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/30/Spins/x86_64/iso/Fedora-Xfce-Live-x86_64-30-1.2.iso
  or torrent
  https://torrent.fedoraproject.org/torrents/Fedora-Xfce-Live-x86_64-30.torrent
  Once you boot up LiveDVD xfce open terminal and run this command lspci
  | grep -i --color 'vga\|3d\|2d'.Share with us findings if you before
  that not successfully install fedora spin xfce on your laptop.
  On Thu, 2019-06-20 at 14:54 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

  I have a refurbished x131e. I pulled the 320G HD and installed an
  empty
  500GB SSD. From a USB SD I started the x64 NetInstall.

  In the install process, I set my location (Detroit), changed the
  host
  name, left the drive setup as default. Then I selected a bunch of
  software. I selected the Xfce desktop and a number of items on the
  right. About 1500 files and something like 1.23GB download. I
  proceeded with the install and set the root password and created my
  user ID.

  The download completed as did the rpms installs. The kernel build I
  think completed. My attention was elsewhere when the system just
  turned
  off.

  Bip.

  Off.

  I pulled the USB CD and powered up. It shut right off.
  I powered up again and the kernel selection menu shows for a bit and
  seems to select the first one. Then it shuts off.

  I have gone through this 2 'step' power up attempt twice.

  Now what? Anyone aware of anything like this? Should I try the
  install
  again, but just pretty much basic Xfce?

  Should I download a LiveCD (is there an Xfce one?) and see what I see
  on
  about the system and status of the drive?

  thanks
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Re: F30 install problem on Lenovo x131e

2019-06-21 Thread Andrey Ponomarenko
Try to boot on battery only (w/o adapter) and on AC adapter only (w/o battery). 
May be this is a power issue since it is able to start booting.

Memory problems usually lead to BSOD, not power off.

21.06.2019, 18:56, "Robert Moskowitz" :
> I am very concerned that the Lenovo x131e is bricked.
>
> I put in the Win10 HD.  It starts to boot and the windows logo starts
> spinning and the system promptly shuts down.
>
> It may be memory, and I will have to see if I have any matching memory
> here (see if it uses the same as my x120e which I have a number of).
>
> I am concerned this happened at the step where the EFI is updated. This
> happened to my back in maybe F21?  There the system would still boot of
> LiveCD and we were able to make manual changes for the booting.  But
> burned once...
>
> Any recommendations on what I can do with this system?  I will check on
> memory, but otherwise, HELP.  Please?
>
> thanks
>
> On 6/20/19 6:40 PM, Igor Bezrodnik wrote:
>>  Do you know what is your gpu unit?
>>  Best is if you download liveDVD and try. You like xfce -->
>>  
>> https://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/30/Spins/x86_64/iso/Fedora-Xfce-Live-x86_64-30-1.2.iso
>>  or torrent
>>  
>> https://torrent.fedoraproject.org/torrents/Fedora-Xfce-Live-x86_64-30.torrent
>>  Once you boot up LiveDVD xfce open terminal and run this command lspci
>>  | grep -i --color 'vga\|3d\|2d'.Share with us findings if you before
>>  that not successfully install fedora spin xfce on your laptop.
>>  On Thu, 2019-06-20 at 14:54 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>>>  I have a refurbished x131e. I pulled the 320G HD and installed an
>>>  empty
>>>  500GB SSD. From a USB SD I started the x64 NetInstall.
>>>
>>>  In the install process, I set my location (Detroit), changed the
>>>  host
>>>  name, left the drive setup as default. Then I selected a bunch of
>>>  software. I selected the Xfce desktop and a number of items on the
>>>  right. About 1500 files and something like 1.23GB download. I
>>>  proceeded with the install and set the root password and created my
>>>  user ID.
>>>
>>>  The download completed as did the rpms installs. The kernel build I
>>>  think completed. My attention was elsewhere when the system just
>>>  turned
>>>  off.
>>>
>>>  Bip.
>>>
>>>  Off.
>>>
>>>  I pulled the USB CD and powered up. It shut right off.
>>>  I powered up again and the kernel selection menu shows for a bit and
>>>  seems to select the first one. Then it shuts off.
>>>
>>>  I have gone through this 2 'step' power up attempt twice.
>>>
>>>  Now what? Anyone aware of anything like this? Should I try the
>>>  install
>>>  again, but just pretty much basic Xfce?
>>>
>>>  Should I download a LiveCD (is there an Xfce one?) and see what I see
>>>  on
>>>  about the system and status of the drive?
>>>
>>>  thanks
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Re: F30 install problem on Lenovo x131e

2019-06-21 Thread Robert Moskowitz

x120e memory is different than the x130e so no shortcut there.

On 6/21/19 2:40 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:



On 6/21/19 1:36 PM, stan via users wrote:

On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 11:54:52 -0400
Robert Moskowitz  wrote:


I am very concerned that the Lenovo x131e is bricked.



Any recommendations on what I can do with this system?  I will check
on memory, but otherwise, HELP.  Please?

First recommendation is relax.


I am relaxed.  Feel the muscle tension wash out.  From the eyebrows to 
the toes.  :)


The system won't get worse by letting it sit.  But urgency and panic 
will lead you to make mistakes.


Fortunately no reboot counters here to lock the system really up.


Be methodical.  Before you do something, write down why you are doing
it, write down the steps to take, and follow the recipe.  At the end,
mark it success or fail, so you have a record of what you've done.


I got a little list.


Second, someone else already suggested it, but reseat all the
components.  You've been pulling things out and putting them in, you
could have jostled something, especially memory, but other connectors
also.


To get to anything more will require pulling the keyboard.  that is a 
real big task on a Lenovo.



It might be memory, but it could also be the power supply.  Or a bad
battery on the motherboard (if they still have those little pancake
batteries that preserve settings).  Unless you zapped something with
ESD (electrostatic discharge), if things were working before, they
should still work.


Rather humid here, so static was not likely.  I think the best memory 
test is different memory, which is why I have to see if I have 
something here that matches.



Make sure the interior is clear of dust while you are in there,
including the power supply.


Recently purchased referb.  I ran its Win10 for a month to make sure 
it was not almost dead.  The SSD was brand new.


It ran well, doing the install of >1500 rpms and built the kernel 
before it died.  I first concern was heat death.  It did not feel 
hot.  My x120e gets hot, this 131 was not hot when it shut off the 
first time.


The way it stopped, makes me think it was at the write boot 
instructions and really messed up (bricked), or memory died.


First work with the memory before going shopping on ebay again.
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Re: F30 install problem on Lenovo x131e

2019-06-21 Thread Robert Moskowitz



On 6/21/19 1:36 PM, stan via users wrote:

On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 11:54:52 -0400
Robert Moskowitz  wrote:


I am very concerned that the Lenovo x131e is bricked.



Any recommendations on what I can do with this system?  I will check
on memory, but otherwise, HELP.  Please?

First recommendation is relax.


I am relaxed.  Feel the muscle tension wash out.  From the eyebrows to 
the toes.  :)



The system won't get worse by letting it sit.  But urgency and panic will lead 
you to make mistakes.


Fortunately no reboot counters here to lock the system really up.


Be methodical.  Before you do something, write down why you are doing
it, write down the steps to take, and follow the recipe.  At the end,
mark it success or fail, so you have a record of what you've done.


I got a little list.


Second, someone else already suggested it, but reseat all the
components.  You've been pulling things out and putting them in, you
could have jostled something, especially memory, but other connectors
also.


To get to anything more will require pulling the keyboard.  that is a 
real big task on a Lenovo.



It might be memory, but it could also be the power supply.  Or a bad
battery on the motherboard (if they still have those little pancake
batteries that preserve settings).  Unless you zapped something with
ESD (electrostatic discharge), if things were working before, they
should still work.


Rather humid here, so static was not likely.  I think the best memory 
test is different memory, which is why I have to see if I have something 
here that matches.



Make sure the interior is clear of dust while you are in there,
including the power supply.


Recently purchased referb.  I ran its Win10 for a month to make sure it 
was not almost dead.  The SSD was brand new.


It ran well, doing the install of >1500 rpms and built the kernel before 
it died.  I first concern was heat death.  It did not feel hot.  My 
x120e gets hot, this 131 was not hot when it shut off the first time.


The way it stopped, makes me think it was at the write boot instructions 
and really messed up (bricked), or memory died.


First work with the memory before going shopping on ebay again.
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Re: F30 install problem on Lenovo x131e

2019-06-21 Thread stan via users
On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 11:54:52 -0400
Robert Moskowitz  wrote:

> I am very concerned that the Lenovo x131e is bricked.


> Any recommendations on what I can do with this system?  I will check
> on memory, but otherwise, HELP.  Please?

First recommendation is relax.  The system won't get worse by letting
it sit.  But urgency and panic will lead you to make mistakes.  Be
methodical.  Before you do something, write down why you are doing
it, write down the steps to take, and follow the recipe.  At the end,
mark it success or fail, so you have a record of what you've done.

Second, someone else already suggested it, but reseat all the
components.  You've been pulling things out and putting them in, you
could have jostled something, especially memory, but other connectors
also.

It might be memory, but it could also be the power supply.  Or a bad
battery on the motherboard (if they still have those little pancake
batteries that preserve settings).  Unless you zapped something with
ESD (electrostatic discharge), if things were working before, they
should still work.

Make sure the interior is clear of dust while you are in there,
including the power supply.
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Re: F30 install problem on Lenovo x131e

2019-06-21 Thread Robert Moskowitz

I am very concerned that the Lenovo x131e is bricked.

I put in the Win10 HD.  It starts to boot and the windows logo starts 
spinning and the system promptly shuts down.


It may be memory, and I will have to see if I have any matching memory 
here (see if it uses the same as my x120e which I have a number of).


I am concerned this happened at the step where the EFI is updated. This 
happened to my back in maybe F21?  There the system would still boot of 
LiveCD and we were able to make manual changes for the booting.  But 
burned once...


Any recommendations on what I can do with this system?  I will check on 
memory, but otherwise, HELP.  Please?


thanks


On 6/20/19 6:40 PM, Igor Bezrodnik wrote:

Do you know what is your gpu unit?
Best is if you download liveDVD and try. You like xfce -->
https://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/30/Spins/x86_64/iso/Fedora-Xfce-Live-x86_64-30-1.2.iso
or torrent
https://torrent.fedoraproject.org/torrents/Fedora-Xfce-Live-x86_64-30.torrent
Once you boot up LiveDVD xfce open terminal and run this command lspci
| grep -i --color 'vga\|3d\|2d'.Share with us findings if you before
that not  successfully install fedora spin xfce on your laptop.
On Thu, 2019-06-20 at 14:54 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

I have a refurbished x131e.  I pulled the 320G HD and installed an
empty
500GB SSD.  From a USB SD I started the x64 NetInstall.

In the install process, I set my location (Detroit), changed the
host
name, left the drive setup as default.  Then I selected a bunch of
software.  I selected the Xfce desktop and a number of items on the
right.  About 1500 files and something like 1.23GB download.  I
proceeded with the install and set the root password and created my
user ID.

The download completed as did the rpms installs.  The kernel build I
think completed.  My attention was elsewhere when the system just
turned
off.

Bip.

Off.

I pulled the USB CD and powered up.  It shut right off.
I powered up again and the kernel selection menu shows for a bit and
seems to select the first one.  Then it shuts off.

I have gone through this 2 'step' power up attempt twice.

Now what?  Anyone aware of anything like this?  Should I try the
install
again, but just pretty much basic Xfce?

Should I download a LiveCD (is there an Xfce one?) and see what I see
on
about the system and status of the drive?

thanks
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Re: F30 install problem on Lenovo x131e

2019-06-20 Thread Andrey Ponomarenko
Looks like internal hardware problem. Unplug the power adapter and battery and 
then try to remove and install again the drive, memory and other removable 
parts.

21.06.2019, 04:18, "Robert Moskowitz" :
> This is really bad.  It won't get past the Lenovo logo screen with the
> USB CD/DVD drive attached.  It shuts down immediately.  No listening to
> F12.  Even without the drive, I can't get it to respond to any keystroke
> before shutting down.
>
> Either the boot info is totally hosed from the install (had that happen
> many releases ago on my x120e, but not as sever).
> or the drive is bad.
>
> I have the Win10 drive still here.  I am going to have to put it in and
> hopefully get the system to boot.
>
> On 6/20/19 6:40 PM, Igor Bezrodnik wrote:
>>  Do you know what is your gpu unit?
>>  Best is if you download liveDVD and try. You like xfce -->
>>  
>> https://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/30/Spins/x86_64/iso/Fedora-Xfce-Live-x86_64-30-1.2.iso
>>  or torrent
>>  
>> https://torrent.fedoraproject.org/torrents/Fedora-Xfce-Live-x86_64-30.torrent
>>  Once you boot up LiveDVD xfce open terminal and run this command lspci
>>  | grep -i --color 'vga\|3d\|2d'.Share with us findings if you before
>>  that not successfully install fedora spin xfce on your laptop.
>>  On Thu, 2019-06-20 at 14:54 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>>>  I have a refurbished x131e. I pulled the 320G HD and installed an
>>>  empty
>>>  500GB SSD. From a USB SD I started the x64 NetInstall.
>>>
>>>  In the install process, I set my location (Detroit), changed the
>>>  host
>>>  name, left the drive setup as default. Then I selected a bunch of
>>>  software. I selected the Xfce desktop and a number of items on the
>>>  right. About 1500 files and something like 1.23GB download. I
>>>  proceeded with the install and set the root password and created my
>>>  user ID.
>>>
>>>  The download completed as did the rpms installs. The kernel build I
>>>  think completed. My attention was elsewhere when the system just
>>>  turned
>>>  off.
>>>
>>>  Bip.
>>>
>>>  Off.
>>>
>>>  I pulled the USB CD and powered up. It shut right off.
>>>  I powered up again and the kernel selection menu shows for a bit and
>>>  seems to select the first one. Then it shuts off.
>>>
>>>  I have gone through this 2 'step' power up attempt twice.
>>>
>>>  Now what? Anyone aware of anything like this? Should I try the
>>>  install
>>>  again, but just pretty much basic Xfce?
>>>
>>>  Should I download a LiveCD (is there an Xfce one?) and see what I see
>>>  on
>>>  about the system and status of the drive?
>>>
>>>  thanks
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Re: F30 install problem on Lenovo x131e

2019-06-20 Thread Robert Moskowitz
This is really bad.  It won't get past the Lenovo logo screen with the 
USB CD/DVD drive attached.  It shuts down immediately.  No listening to 
F12.  Even without the drive, I can't get it to respond to any keystroke 
before shutting down.


Either the boot info is totally hosed from the install (had that happen 
many releases ago on my x120e, but not as sever).

or the drive is bad.

I have the Win10 drive still here.  I am going to have to put it in and 
hopefully get the system to boot.



On 6/20/19 6:40 PM, Igor Bezrodnik wrote:

Do you know what is your gpu unit?
Best is if you download liveDVD and try. You like xfce -->
https://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/30/Spins/x86_64/iso/Fedora-Xfce-Live-x86_64-30-1.2.iso
or torrent
https://torrent.fedoraproject.org/torrents/Fedora-Xfce-Live-x86_64-30.torrent
Once you boot up LiveDVD xfce open terminal and run this command lspci
| grep -i --color 'vga\|3d\|2d'.Share with us findings if you before
that not  successfully install fedora spin xfce on your laptop.
On Thu, 2019-06-20 at 14:54 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

I have a refurbished x131e.  I pulled the 320G HD and installed an
empty
500GB SSD.  From a USB SD I started the x64 NetInstall.

In the install process, I set my location (Detroit), changed the
host
name, left the drive setup as default.  Then I selected a bunch of
software.  I selected the Xfce desktop and a number of items on the
right.  About 1500 files and something like 1.23GB download.  I
proceeded with the install and set the root password and created my
user ID.

The download completed as did the rpms installs.  The kernel build I
think completed.  My attention was elsewhere when the system just
turned
off.

Bip.

Off.

I pulled the USB CD and powered up.  It shut right off.
I powered up again and the kernel selection menu shows for a bit and
seems to select the first one.  Then it shuts off.

I have gone through this 2 'step' power up attempt twice.

Now what?  Anyone aware of anything like this?  Should I try the
install
again, but just pretty much basic Xfce?

Should I download a LiveCD (is there an Xfce one?) and see what I see
on
about the system and status of the drive?

thanks
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Re: F30 install problem on Lenovo x131e

2019-06-20 Thread Igor Bezrodnik
Do you know what is your gpu unit?
Best is if you download liveDVD and try. You like xfce -->  
https://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/30/Spins/x86_64/iso/Fedora-Xfce-Live-x86_64-30-1.2.iso
or torrent 
https://torrent.fedoraproject.org/torrents/Fedora-Xfce-Live-x86_64-30.torrent
Once you boot up LiveDVD xfce open terminal and run this command lspci
| grep -i --color 'vga\|3d\|2d'.Share with us findings if you before
that not  successfully install fedora spin xfce on your laptop.
On Thu, 2019-06-20 at 14:54 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> I have a refurbished x131e.  I pulled the 320G HD and installed an
> empty 
> 500GB SSD.  From a USB SD I started the x64 NetInstall.
> 
> In the install process, I set my location (Detroit), changed the
> host 
> name, left the drive setup as default.  Then I selected a bunch of 
> software.  I selected the Xfce desktop and a number of items on the 
> right.  About 1500 files and something like 1.23GB download.  I 
> proceeded with the install and set the root password and created my
> user ID.
> 
> The download completed as did the rpms installs.  The kernel build I 
> think completed.  My attention was elsewhere when the system just
> turned 
> off.
> 
> Bip.
> 
> Off.
> 
> I pulled the USB CD and powered up.  It shut right off.
> I powered up again and the kernel selection menu shows for a bit and 
> seems to select the first one.  Then it shuts off.
> 
> I have gone through this 2 'step' power up attempt twice.
> 
> Now what?  Anyone aware of anything like this?  Should I try the
> install 
> again, but just pretty much basic Xfce?
> 
> Should I download a LiveCD (is there an Xfce one?) and see what I see
> on 
> about the system and status of the drive?
> 
> thanks
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F30 install problem on Lenovo x131e

2019-06-20 Thread Robert Moskowitz
I have a refurbished x131e.  I pulled the 320G HD and installed an empty 
500GB SSD.  From a USB SD I started the x64 NetInstall.


In the install process, I set my location (Detroit), changed the host 
name, left the drive setup as default.  Then I selected a bunch of 
software.  I selected the Xfce desktop and a number of items on the 
right.  About 1500 files and something like 1.23GB download.  I 
proceeded with the install and set the root password and created my user ID.


The download completed as did the rpms installs.  The kernel build I 
think completed.  My attention was elsewhere when the system just turned 
off.


Bip.

Off.

I pulled the USB CD and powered up.  It shut right off.
I powered up again and the kernel selection menu shows for a bit and 
seems to select the first one.  Then it shuts off.


I have gone through this 2 'step' power up attempt twice.

Now what?  Anyone aware of anything like this?  Should I try the install 
again, but just pretty much basic Xfce?


Should I download a LiveCD (is there an Xfce one?) and see what I see on 
about the system and status of the drive?


thanks
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Re: avidemux install problem

2015-11-19 Thread Richard Shaw
On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 5:15 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan 
wrote:

> On Wed, 2015-11-18 at 19:34 -0600, Richard Shaw wrote:
> > You can try enabling the testing repos but I don't have a good way to
> > check
> > to see if they're there yet.
>
> The usual way is:
>
> dnf --enablerepo= ...
>
> but no luck so far.


I should have been more specific :) I know how to enable them but I'm not
running F23 currently and I think RPM Fusion's rawhide is f23 right now so
using --releasever doesn't get the desired result, or at least last time I
tried.

Thanks,
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Re: avidemux install problem

2015-11-19 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2015-11-19 at 11:23 +, Richard Ibbotson wrote:
> On Thursday 19 November 2015 11:15:01 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Wed, 2015-11-18 at 19:34 -0600, Richard Shaw wrote:
> > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 6:50 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan
> > > 
> > > 
> > > wrote:
> > > > According to Google, several people are having this issue:
> > > > 
> > > > $ sudo dnf install --allowerasing avidemux
> > > > Last metadata expiration check performed 0:14:07 ago on Thu Nov
> > > > 19
> > > > 00:32:09 2015.
> > > > Error: nothing provides libx264.so.142()(64bit) needed by
> > > > avidemux-qt-2.6.8-3.fc22.x86_64
> > > > 
> > > > (Note that this is on F23)
> 
> I had similar problems with OpenShot and MLT. I opened up rpmfusion-
> free-rawhide.repo with a text editor and set enabled=0 to enabled=1. 
> After running DNF update the result was that some F22 packages were 
> installed. Not the best solution. But it works.

For a one-off attempt it's not necessary to edit the file.

Just add "--enablerepo=" to the dnf (or yum) options.

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Re: avidemux install problem

2015-11-19 Thread Richard Ibbotson
On Thursday 19 November 2015 11:15:01 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Wed, 2015-11-18 at 19:34 -0600, Richard Shaw wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 6:50 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan
> > 
> > 
> > wrote:
> > > According to Google, several people are having this issue:
> > > 
> > > $ sudo dnf install --allowerasing avidemux
> > > Last metadata expiration check performed 0:14:07 ago on Thu Nov
> > > 19
> > > 00:32:09 2015.
> > > Error: nothing provides libx264.so.142()(64bit) needed by
> > > avidemux-qt-2.6.8-3.fc22.x86_64
> > > 
> > > (Note that this is on F23)

I had similar problems with OpenShot and MLT. I opened up rpmfusion-
free-rawhide.repo with a text editor and set enabled=0 to enabled=1. 
After running DNF update the result was that some F22 packages were 
installed. Not the best solution. But it works.

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Re: avidemux install problem

2015-11-19 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2015-11-18 at 19:34 -0600, Richard Shaw wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 6:50 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan  il.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > According to Google, several people are having this issue:
> > 
> > $ sudo dnf install --allowerasing avidemux
> > Last metadata expiration check performed 0:14:07 ago on Thu Nov 19
> > 00:32:09 2015.
> > Error: nothing provides libx264.so.142()(64bit) needed by
> > avidemux-qt-2.6.8-3.fc22.x86_64
> > 
> > (Note that this is on F23)
> > 
> > Has anyone solved it, or do we just have to wait for RPMfusion to
> > get
> > their act together?
> 
> 
> It's working it's way through but updates are manual for f22 & 23
> until the
> infrastructure upgrades are complete.
> 
> You can try enabling the testing repos but I don't have a good way to
> check
> to see if they're there yet.

The usual way is:

dnf --enablerepo= ...

but no luck so far.

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Re: avidemux install problem

2015-11-18 Thread Joe Zeff

On 11/18/2015 05:34 PM, Richard Shaw wrote:

On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 6:50 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan
mailto:pocallag...@gmail.com>> wrote:

According to Google, several people are having this issue:

$ sudo dnf install --allowerasing avidemux
Last metadata expiration check performed 0:14:07 ago on Thu Nov 19
00:32:09 2015.
Error: nothing provides libx264.so.142()(64bit) needed by
avidemux-qt-2.6.8-3.fc22.x86_64

(Note that this is on F23)

Has anyone solved it, or do we just have to wait for RPMfusion to get
their act together?


It's working it's way through but updates are manual for f22 & 23 until
the infrastructure upgrades are complete.

You can try enabling the testing repos but I don't have a good way to
check to see if they're there yet.



If you do and it works OK, be sure to go to 
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates and give it some good karma to 
help it get to the main repo.

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Re: avidemux install problem

2015-11-18 Thread Richard Shaw
On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 6:50 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan 
wrote:

> According to Google, several people are having this issue:
>
> $ sudo dnf install --allowerasing avidemux
> Last metadata expiration check performed 0:14:07 ago on Thu Nov 19
> 00:32:09 2015.
> Error: nothing provides libx264.so.142()(64bit) needed by
> avidemux-qt-2.6.8-3.fc22.x86_64
>
> (Note that this is on F23)
>
> Has anyone solved it, or do we just have to wait for RPMfusion to get
> their act together?


It's working it's way through but updates are manual for f22 & 23 until the
infrastructure upgrades are complete.

You can try enabling the testing repos but I don't have a good way to check
to see if they're there yet.

Thanks,
Richard
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avidemux install problem

2015-11-18 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
According to Google, several people are having this issue:

$ sudo dnf install --allowerasing avidemux  
Last metadata expiration check performed 0:14:07 ago on Thu Nov 19 00:32:09 
2015.
Error: nothing provides libx264.so.142()(64bit) needed by 
avidemux-qt-2.6.8-3.fc22.x86_64

(Note that this is on F23)

Has anyone solved it, or do we just have to wait for RPMfusion to get
their act together?

poc


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[OT] Re: Install Problem with Fedora 20 (No Local Standard Disks)

2014-06-27 Thread Ed Greshko
On 06/27/14 16:34, Rolf Turner wrote:
> On 27/06/14 17:56, Joe Zeff wrote:
>> On 06/26/2014 06:58 PM, Gregory P. Ennis wrote:
>>> Jeff,
>>>
>>> Thanks very much.
>>
>> No problem, but my name is Joe, not Jeff.  Yes, I know why you got it
>> wrong, but that doesn't mean that I don't like having my name mangled.
>
>
> Joe:  I get called "Ralph" or "Rolph" or "Rolphe" or "Ross" or ..., far more 
> often than I get called "Rolf".  (Roughly 95% --- 5%).  I have learned to 
> live with it.  (Ah, the *mellowness* that comes with advancing years!)
>

Now that I re-read it.  "that doesn't mean that I don't like having my name 
mangled"  reduces to "I like having my name mangled".  :-)

Such as "just because I didn't want any ice cream doesn't mean I don't like ice 
cream."

FWIW, I answer to "Ed", "Edward", "Eddie", "Edy" (Don't ask),  "エド", "爱德华", and 
"Hey You". 

Sorry for the OT'ness.  Just thought this rather amusing.


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Re: Install Problem with Fedora 20 (No Local Standard Disks)

2014-06-27 Thread Rolf Turner

On 27/06/14 17:56, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 06/26/2014 06:58 PM, Gregory P. Ennis wrote:

Jeff,

Thanks very much.


No problem, but my name is Joe, not Jeff.  Yes, I know why you got it
wrong, but that doesn't mean that I don't like having my name mangled.



Joe:  I get called "Ralph" or "Rolph" or "Rolphe" or "Ross" or ..., far 
more often than I get called "Rolf".  (Roughly 95% --- 5%).  I have 
learned to live with it.  (Ah, the *mellowness* that comes with 
advancing years!)


cheers,

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Re: Install Problem with Fedora 20 (No Local Standard Disks)

2014-06-26 Thread jeandet
Le jeudi 26 juin 2014 à 20:58 -0500, Gregory P. Ennis a écrit :
Hi,

I used to have a weird behavior, with Fedora live install, on some
machines (Slightly old Dell for example) on USB stick, if I generate it
with the fedora tool I can't see any space on the Disk. On the same
laptop if I generate the live USB stick with Lili it works perfectly. I
don't know what is the issue but I usually have to play with this two
softwares to generate Fedora USB keys.

Best regards,
Alexis.
> Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 17:11:01 -0700
> 
> On 06/26/2014 04:47 PM, Gregory P. Ennis wrote:
> > The system boots to Windows without any problem.  I was planning on
> > overwriting the disc and getting rid of the windows product entirely.  I
> > have checked sum the installation disc, and have even created a second
> > Fedora 20 installation disc and have the same problem.
> >
> > Sure would appreciate some guidance from someone on the list that has
> > solved a similar or same problem.
> 
> Boot from a Live USB/CD/DVD and use its partitioning software to delete 
> all partitions from the hard drive.  (If there's no GUI software, you 
> can always use fdisk in a terminal.)  Then, boot from the installation 
> media and see if it finds the drive.
> 
> ---
> 
> Jeff,
> 
> Thanks very much.
> 
> I had an F19 live CD, and it did recognize the disc.  I was able to
> remove the partition, with the 'disk' software, but I could not get the
> F20 install DVD to recognize it until I went back into the Live F19 and
> formatted the partition.  After this F20 recognized the partition and I
> could proceed.
> 
> Do you have any comments what was happening as to why F20 did not
> recognize it in the beginning. 
> 
> Greg
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Re: Install Problem with Fedora 20 (No Local Standard Disks)

2014-06-26 Thread Joe Zeff

On 06/26/2014 06:58 PM, Gregory P. Ennis wrote:

Jeff,

Thanks very much.


No problem, but my name is Joe, not Jeff.  Yes, I know why you got it 
wrong, but that doesn't mean that I don't like having my name mangled.

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Re: Install Problem with Fedora 20 (No Local Standard Disks)

2014-06-26 Thread Gregory P. Ennis
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 17:11:01 -0700

On 06/26/2014 04:47 PM, Gregory P. Ennis wrote:
> The system boots to Windows without any problem.  I was planning on
> overwriting the disc and getting rid of the windows product entirely.  I
> have checked sum the installation disc, and have even created a second
> Fedora 20 installation disc and have the same problem.
>
> Sure would appreciate some guidance from someone on the list that has
> solved a similar or same problem.

Boot from a Live USB/CD/DVD and use its partitioning software to delete 
all partitions from the hard drive.  (If there's no GUI software, you 
can always use fdisk in a terminal.)  Then, boot from the installation 
media and see if it finds the drive.

---

Jeff,

Thanks very much.

I had an F19 live CD, and it did recognize the disc.  I was able to
remove the partition, with the 'disk' software, but I could not get the
F20 install DVD to recognize it until I went back into the Live F19 and
formatted the partition.  After this F20 recognized the partition and I
could proceed.

Do you have any comments what was happening as to why F20 did not
recognize it in the beginning. 

Greg

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Re: Install Problem with Fedora 20 (No Local Standard Disks)

2014-06-26 Thread Joe Zeff

On 06/26/2014 04:47 PM, Gregory P. Ennis wrote:

The system boots to Windows without any problem.  I was planning on
overwriting the disc and getting rid of the windows product entirely.  I
have checked sum the installation disc, and have even created a second
Fedora 20 installation disc and have the same problem.

Sure would appreciate some guidance from someone on the list that has
solved a similar or same problem.


Boot from a Live USB/CD/DVD and use its partitioning software to delete 
all partitions from the hard drive.  (If there's no GUI software, you 
can always use fdisk in a terminal.)  Then, boot from the installation 
media and see if it finds the drive.

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Install Problem with Fedora 20 (No Local Standard Disks)

2014-06-26 Thread Gregory P. Ennis
Everyone,

I purchased a used (refurbished) Dell Optiplex 755 that came with
Windows 7 installed.  I am trying to install Fedora 20, but when I get
to the "Installation Destination" screen the fedora installer is not
finding any "Local Standard Discs", which means I have been unable to
start any installation.

The system boots to Windows without any problem.  I was planning on
overwriting the disc and getting rid of the windows product entirely.  I
have checked sum the installation disc, and have even created a second
Fedora 20 installation disc and have the same problem.

Sure would appreciate some guidance from someone on the list that has
solved a similar or same problem.

Thanks,

Greg Ennis



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Re: Install problem (Fedora 20-32bit

2014-06-09 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2014-06-08 at 17:49 -0400, David wrote:
> > Use a torrent download (the same site has torrent versions). It's
> likely
> > to be faster, not to mention easier to restart partial downloads.
> > 
> > poc
> > 
> 
> 
> His complaint was that his download did not complete. A torrent would
> be
> a complete restart.

Wrong, see below.

> And a torrent, at this late date, would/could be
> slow since the possibility od acctive 'seeds' would/could be small.

As an experiment I just started a torrent download of the x86_64 DVD.
It's currently coming from 88 peers and maxing out my 80Mbps connection.

> And, IMO, since he can not complete, or resume, an oridinary d/l --
> you
> expect him to preform a torrent d/l? God luck with that.

I restart (i.e. continue) torrents all the time. I frequently reboot my
machine while it's in the middle of downloading a torrent and have never
had the least problem in continuing it. The whole point of torrents is
that they consist of multiple pieces from different sources.

poc

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Re: Install problem (Fedora 20-32bit

2014-06-09 Thread Liam Proven
On 8 June 2014 22:54, Doug  wrote:
> I'd have the file in 20 minutes or so. The estimate was 4 1/2 hours! I said to
> go ahead, and then after about 2 1/2 hours I accidentally aborted it. I'll try
> again late tonite.


Hi Doug. Good to hear from you again.

If you are using Firefox to download, then I suggest that you add a
download manager to it. There are several free ones. They download
faster, by splitting big files into chunks and downloading all the
chunks at once. Also, they can handle pausing a download and starting
it again later on, picking up where they left off. This includes if
you lose your connection or something.

The one I use is called DownThemAll. It's a Firefox addon and it's
free, although they ask for a donation.

Go into Firefox. Pick the Tools menu. Pick Addons. Type "downthemall"
into the box. It should find it quickly; pick install. Close Firefox
and reopen it.

Then retry your Fedora download. When Firefox asks you what to do with
the file - open, save etc. - there should now be a new option,
"download with DownThemAll". Choose this.

Typically I find things download 2-4x faster and the extra reliability
is a big help.


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Re: Install problem (Fedora 20-32bit

2014-06-09 Thread Liam Proven
On 8 June 2014 23:40, David  wrote:
> It took a while but I remembered that from school. But I admit that I
> had to Google search it for reference.
>
> So?  The people here are, mostly, ordinary people that try to help
> people with problems. Insulting *paid help* is just stupid. Insulting
> *free* help is just worse.

Do you not understand what Doug is saying, and  trying to clarify, here?

He is not being insulting. "Sage" means wise and intelligent. When he
says that he is following the list's sage advice rather than using the
disk he already has, what that sentence means is "since you folk tell
me that I'd be better off with 64-bit than 32-bit, I am listening to
you, because you know more than I do."

That is what it plainly says.

And yet you are complaining and claiming that he is being insulting.
Why? Because you don't understand him, he's being insulting to you?


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Re: Install problem (Fedora 20-32bit

2014-06-08 Thread Doug


On 06/08/2014 08:55 PM, Doug wrote:


OI downloaded the whole thing and burned a DVD. Thanx to the folks
who advised me to get the 64-bit version. I'll install it later 
tonite, if

I don't run into any further trouble. When it's installed and running
I'll post back, and if it doesn't install and run, I'll also post back!



/snip/

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I'm afraid Fedora is not for me. After trying several times to get
it to install to two empty partitions on sda, I installed a second
hard drive. It seems to have installed, but during the install a
message:
"A problem has occurred in the screen setting daemon..."
Unlike the 32-bit install, which gave me the option of KDE, if I could 
have installed it,

there was no option. I think it's some kind of GNOME, but I'm not sure.
Now that it is apparently installed, there is no way to set the clock, there
is no way to shutdown (except to pull the switch on the computer)
Firefox wants to upgrade, but it sends a compressed file, and there's no
way to get to a terminal to uncompress it. Along the way,  more
complaints about stuff that doesn't work (by Fedora, not me):
first, gnome settings, then glibc, then systemd.  (Now I know why
everybody hates systemd. . . .)
I have never seen a Linux that looked like this, and I hope I never do 
again.

Thanx for your interest, but I'm going to erase this off my drive.

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Re: Install problem (Fedora 20-32bit

2014-06-08 Thread Ed Greshko
On 06/09/14 08:55, Doug wrote:
> BTW: I did not see any checksum information on the download site.
> I just took it on faith that it was OK. Up until now, I've always had
> good downloads, when I did have a checksum to verify with. 

https://fedoraproject.org/en/verify

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Re: Install problem (Fedora 20-32bit

2014-06-08 Thread Doug


On 06/08/2014 06:42 PM, David wrote:

On 6/8/2014 6:06 PM, Andre Robatino wrote:

Doug  optonline.net> writes:


 Well, the reason was that I had the disk. So I listened to the sage
 advice from the list here, and started to download the file. I have
 the usual cable connection, and I thought
 I'd have the file in 20 minutes or so. The estimate was 4½ hours! I
 said to go ahead, and then after about 2½ hours I accidentally
 aborted it. I'll try again late tonite.
 I'm downloadeing from fedoraproject.org.

I have 3 Mbit DSL and could download the F20 install DVD faster than that.
When downloading large files, if possible use a robust command-line tool
such as wget. If necessary it's easy to resume the download with the -c
option (if it aborts, or you want to try a faster mirror).

me also. Less thatn 15 minutes here.

I downloaded the whole thing and burned a DVD. Thanx to the folks
who advised me to get the 64-bit version. I'll install it later tonite, if
I don't run into any further trouble. When it's installed and running
I'll post back, and if it doesn't install and run, I'll also post back!

BTW: I did not see any checksum information on the download site.
I just took it on faith that it was OK. Up until now, I've always had
good downloads, when I did have a checksum to verify with.

Re:  torrent. I've had mixed results. Some things download fairly
quickly, but on at least one thing i wanted to download, I got an
expected time of 30 days! I know I've been told that torrent is
safe, but it makes me nervous to have someone else connected
to my machine. So I have used it, but I still get nervous!

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Re: Install problem (Fedora 20-32bit

2014-06-08 Thread David
On 6/8/2014 7:37 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 06/09/14 07:21, David wrote:
>> IMHO? Torrents sucked then. And they suck now.
> 
> I live in Taiwan.  If it were not for torrents I'd be missing some very
> good shows.

I was not aware of that.


>> As for this person? People like *you*? The unpaid helpers here? He
>> insulted 'you' IMO. If you don't care? You need to make that more clear.
>> *I* thought he insulted 'you'. If you don't care? let me know. So that I
>> won't care either. When they poo on your plate...
> 
> I hardly pay any attention to "insults" on mailing lists.  And, I pay
> *zero* attention when/if it is directed at me.  It isn't worth the bits
> and the keystrokes.
> 
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> You may both be wrong. -- Dandemis
> 
>

Hmm.. Well if you don't care? It has always bothered me that those that
'work for frre' and try to help get insulted and degraded. So you don't
care? Really? Well then I now longer care.

-

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Re: Install problem (Fedora 20-32bit

2014-06-08 Thread Ed Greshko
On 06/09/14 07:21, David wrote:
> IMHO? Torrents sucked then. And they suck now.

I live in Taiwan.  If it were not for torrents I'd be missing some very good 
shows.
>
> As for this person? People like *you*? The unpaid helpers here? He
> insulted 'you' IMO. If you don't care? You need to make that more clear.
> *I* thought he insulted 'you'. If you don't care? let me know. So that I
> won't care either. When they poo on your plate...

I hardly pay any attention to "insults" on mailing lists.  And, I pay *zero* 
attention when/if it is directed at me.  It isn't worth the bits and the 
keystrokes.

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Re: Install problem (Fedora 20-32bit

2014-06-08 Thread David
On 6/8/2014 6:56 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 06/09/14 06:40, David wrote:
>> I am impressed Ed. Most, in my experience, torrents die quickly due to
>> lack of seeds. I gave up on torrents when I upgraded from telephone
>> lines and 56k modems. I have no idea but many, many yeaRS AGO,
> 
> FWIW, maybe things have changed againwith more people using linux and 
> more people using torrents.  I had a need recently to get DVDs of F14 through 
> F19.  All of them were available via torrent and all 6 downloaded quite 
> quickly.
> 


torrents? I don't recall the last time I heard of those actually be of use.

"with more people using linux and more people using torrent"? You mean
that people that use linux ...


IMHO? Torrents sucked then. And they suck now.

As for this person? People like *you*? The unpaid helpers here? He
insulted 'you' IMO. If you don't care? You need to make that more clear.
*I* thought he insulted 'you'. If you don't care? let me know. So that I
won't care either. When they poo on your plate...
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Re: Install problem (Fedora 20-32bit

2014-06-08 Thread Ed Greshko
On 06/09/14 06:40, David wrote:
> I am impressed Ed. Most, in my experience, torrents die quickly due to
> lack of seeds. I gave up on torrents when I upgraded from telephone
> lines and 56k modems. I have no idea but many, many yeaRS AGO,

FWIW, maybe things have changed againwith more people using linux and more 
people using torrents.  I had a need recently to get DVDs of F14 through F19.  
All of them were available via torrent and all 6 downloaded quite quickly.

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Re: Install problem (Fedora 20-32bit

2014-06-08 Thread David
On 6/8/2014 6:06 PM, Andre Robatino wrote:
> Doug  optonline.net> writes:
> 
>> Well, the reason was that I had the disk. So I listened to the sage
>> advice from the list here, and started to download the file. I have
>> the usual cable connection, and I thought
>> I'd have the file in 20 minutes or so. The estimate was 4½ hours! I
>> said to go ahead, and then after about 2½ hours I accidentally
>> aborted it. I'll try again late tonite.
>> I'm downloadeing from fedoraproject.org. 
> 
> I have 3 Mbit DSL and could download the F20 install DVD faster than that.
> When downloading large files, if possible use a robust command-line tool
> such as wget. If necessary it's easy to resume the download with the -c
> option (if it aborts, or you want to try a faster mirror).

me also. Less thatn 15 minutes here.
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Re: Install problem (Fedora 20-32bit

2014-06-08 Thread David
On 6/8/2014 6:13 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 06/09/14 05:49, David wrote:
>> His complaint was that his download did not complete. A torrent would be
>> a complete restart. And a torrent, at this late date, would/could be
>> slow since the possibility od acctive 'seeds' would/could be small.
> 
> Just for the heck of it, I'm re-downloading the torrent using the torrent 
> file on fedoraproject.org.  I'm getting 2.8 Mb/sec and expect the dl to be 
> done in 30 minutes.


I am impressed Ed. Most, in my experience, torrents die quickly due to
lack of seeds. I gave up on torrents when I upgraded from telephone
lines and 56k modems. I have no idea but many, many yeaRS AGO,


>> And, IMO, since he can not complete, or resume, an oridinary d/l -- you
>> expect him to preform a torrent d/l? God luck with that.
> 
> A dl by torrent is generally better since you're getting data from multiple 
> sources via multiple paths over the internet.  A ftp/http download is from a 
> single source along a single path.  More susceptible to a failure.
> 
> Also, FWIW, when you do a wget on the DVD via fedoraproject you actually get 
> mirror.  I just tried it and I get a mirror that is very close to me here in 
> Taiwan.  Yet, I'm getting only 25Kb/s and the download is expected to take 
> 2Days.
> 

Ed... you are a great guy. But? What info you are offering him APPEARS
TO BE beyond his knowledge. IMO.
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Re: Install problem (Fedora 20-32bit

2014-06-08 Thread Ed Greshko
On 06/09/14 05:49, David wrote:
> His complaint was that his download did not complete. A torrent would be
> a complete restart. And a torrent, at this late date, would/could be
> slow since the possibility od acctive 'seeds' would/could be small.

Just for the heck of it, I'm re-downloading the torrent using the torrent file 
on fedoraproject.org.  I'm getting 2.8 Mb/sec and expect the dl to be done in 
30 minutes.
>
> And, IMO, since he can not complete, or resume, an oridinary d/l -- you
> expect him to preform a torrent d/l? God luck with that.

A dl by torrent is generally better since you're getting data from multiple 
sources via multiple paths over the internet.  A ftp/http download is from a 
single source along a single path.  More susceptible to a failure.

Also, FWIW, when you do a wget on the DVD via fedoraproject you actually get 
mirror.  I just tried it and I get a mirror that is very close to me here in 
Taiwan.  Yet, I'm getting only 25Kb/s and the download is expected to take 
2Days.

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Re: Install problem (Fedora 20-32bit

2014-06-08 Thread Andre Robatino
Doug  optonline.net> writes:

> Well, the reason was that I had the disk. So I listened to the sage
> advice from the list here, and started to download the file. I have
> the usual cable connection, and I thought
> I'd have the file in 20 minutes or so. The estimate was 4½ hours! I
> said to go ahead, and then after about 2½ hours I accidentally
> aborted it. I'll try again late tonite.
> I'm downloadeing from fedoraproject.org. 

I have 3 Mbit DSL and could download the F20 install DVD faster than that.
When downloading large files, if possible use a robust command-line tool
such as wget. If necessary it's easy to resume the download with the -c
option (if it aborts, or you want to try a faster mirror).




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Re: Install problem (Fedora 20-32bit

2014-06-08 Thread David
On 6/8/2014 5:39 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Sun, 2014-06-08 at 16:54 -0400, Doug wrote:
>> Well, the reason was that I had the disk. So I listened to the sage 
>> advice from the list here, and started to download the file. I have
>> the 
>> usual cable connection, and I thought
>> I'd have the file in 20 minutes or so. The estimate was 4½ hours! I
>> said 
>> to go ahead, and then after about 2½ hours I accidentally aborted it. 
>> I'll try again late tonite.
>> I'm downloadeing from fedoraproject.org.
> 
> Use a torrent download (the same site has torrent versions). It's likely
> to be faster, not to mention easier to restart partial downloads.
> 
> poc
> 


His complaint was that his download did not complete. A torrent would be
a complete restart. And a torrent, at this late date, would/could be
slow since the possibility od acctive 'seeds' would/could be small.

And, IMO, since he can not complete, or resume, an oridinary d/l -- you
expect him to preform a torrent d/l? God luck with that.

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Re: Install problem (Fedora 20-32bit

2014-06-08 Thread David
On 6/8/2014 5:29 PM, Doug wrote:
> 
> On 06/08/2014 05:17 PM, David wrote:
>> On 6/8/2014 4:54 PM, Doug wrote:
>>> On 06/08/2014 01:35 AM, Roger wrote:
 On 06/08/2014 03:21 PM, Pete Travis wrote:
>
> On Jun 7, 2014 9:01 PM, "Doug"  > wrote:
>> Trying to install Fedora 20 32-bit version on a multiboot system
> (Windows 8.1 + PCLOS 32 + PCLOS 64) into a standard partition.
>> Got up past setting passwords for root and user. Then it crashed
> with the following message:
>> ***
>>
>> The following error occurred whil installing. This is a fatal error
> and installation will be aborted.
>> error population transaction: failure:
> Packages/s/systemd-python-208-9.fe20.:686.rpm from anaconda:
>> [Errno 256] No more mirrors to try.
>>
>> *
>> Machine is desktop 64-bit Intel processor with 8GB ram, connected
> to Internet, Nvidia graphics. Uses BIOS, not UEFI.
>> I want to install Fedora in order to run Linux version of
> DraftSight cad program, which has a Fedora rpm available and
>> which does not run on PCLOS, for unknown reasons.
>>
>> Suggestions, please.
>>
>> Thanx--doug
>> -- 
> Hey Doug,
>
> Any particular reason you aren't using  64 bit Fedora?  If it's
> because of a 32bit app, the chance of it working on x86_64 is *very
> high* and so worth trying.
>
> --Pete
>
> May I suggest the 64 bit - the graphics are much faster. 32 bit is
> glunky for 2/3D and animation.
 Roger


>>> Well, the reason was that I had the disk. So I listened to the sage
>>> advice from the list here, and started to download the file. I have the
>>> usual cable connection, and I thought
>>> I'd have the file in 20 minutes or so. The estimate was 4½ hours! I said
>>> to go ahead, and then after about 2½ hours I accidentally aborted it.
>>> I'll try again late tonite.
>>> I'm downloadeing from fedoraproject.org.
>>> --doug
>> That's too bad Doug. But bad things do happen from time to time.
>>
>> "the sage advice from the list"? Really> Users trying to help users.
>>
>> Good luck here with that attitude.
>>
>>
>>
> You seem to think that was an insult or something.  Here's what
> Artha says:
> 
> "sage ~ adjrare
>  1. having wisdom that comes with age and experience"
> 
> --doug
> 


It took a while but I remembered that from school. But I admit that I
had to Google search it for reference.

So?  The people here are, mostly, ordinary people that try to help
people with problems. Insulting *paid help* is just stupid. Insulting
*free* help is just worse.

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Re: Install problem (Fedora 20-32bit

2014-06-08 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2014-06-08 at 16:54 -0400, Doug wrote:
> Well, the reason was that I had the disk. So I listened to the sage 
> advice from the list here, and started to download the file. I have
> the 
> usual cable connection, and I thought
> I'd have the file in 20 minutes or so. The estimate was 4½ hours! I
> said 
> to go ahead, and then after about 2½ hours I accidentally aborted it. 
> I'll try again late tonite.
> I'm downloadeing from fedoraproject.org.

Use a torrent download (the same site has torrent versions). It's likely
to be faster, not to mention easier to restart partial downloads.

poc

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Re: Install problem (Fedora 20-32bit

2014-06-08 Thread Doug


On 06/08/2014 05:17 PM, David wrote:

On 6/8/2014 4:54 PM, Doug wrote:

On 06/08/2014 01:35 AM, Roger wrote:

On 06/08/2014 03:21 PM, Pete Travis wrote:


On Jun 7, 2014 9:01 PM, "Doug" mailto:dmcgarr...@optonline.net>> wrote:

Trying to install Fedora 20 32-bit version on a multiboot system

(Windows 8.1 + PCLOS 32 + PCLOS 64) into a standard partition.

Got up past setting passwords for root and user. Then it crashed

with the following message:

***

The following error occurred whil installing. This is a fatal error

and installation will be aborted.

error population transaction: failure:

Packages/s/systemd-python-208-9.fe20.:686.rpm from anaconda:

[Errno 256] No more mirrors to try.

*
Machine is desktop 64-bit Intel processor with 8GB ram, connected

to Internet, Nvidia graphics. Uses BIOS, not UEFI.

I want to install Fedora in order to run Linux version of

DraftSight cad program, which has a Fedora rpm available and

which does not run on PCLOS, for unknown reasons.

Suggestions, please.

Thanx--doug
--

Hey Doug,

Any particular reason you aren't using  64 bit Fedora?  If it's
because of a 32bit app, the chance of it working on x86_64 is *very
high* and so worth trying.

--Pete

May I suggest the 64 bit - the graphics are much faster. 32 bit is
glunky for 2/3D and animation.

Roger



Well, the reason was that I had the disk. So I listened to the sage
advice from the list here, and started to download the file. I have the
usual cable connection, and I thought
I'd have the file in 20 minutes or so. The estimate was 4½ hours! I said
to go ahead, and then after about 2½ hours I accidentally aborted it.
I'll try again late tonite.
I'm downloadeing from fedoraproject.org.
--doug

That's too bad Doug. But bad things do happen from time to time.

"the sage advice from the list"? Really> Users trying to help users.

Good luck here with that attitude.




You seem to think that was an insult or something.  Here's what
Artha says:

"sage ~ adjrare
 1. having wisdom that comes with age and experience"

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Re: Install problem (Fedora 20-32bit

2014-06-08 Thread David
On 6/8/2014 4:54 PM, Doug wrote:
> 
> On 06/08/2014 01:35 AM, Roger wrote:
>> On 06/08/2014 03:21 PM, Pete Travis wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jun 7, 2014 9:01 PM, "Doug" >> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Trying to install Fedora 20 32-bit version on a multiboot system
>>> (Windows 8.1 + PCLOS 32 + PCLOS 64) into a standard partition.
>>> > Got up past setting passwords for root and user. Then it crashed
>>> with the following message:
>>> >
>>> > ***
>>> >
>>> > The following error occurred whil installing. This is a fatal error
>>> and installation will be aborted.
>>> >
>>> > error population transaction: failure:
>>> Packages/s/systemd-python-208-9.fe20.:686.rpm from anaconda:
>>> > [Errno 256] No more mirrors to try.
>>> >
>>> > *
>>> > Machine is desktop 64-bit Intel processor with 8GB ram, connected
>>> to Internet, Nvidia graphics. Uses BIOS, not UEFI.
>>> > I want to install Fedora in order to run Linux version of
>>> DraftSight cad program, which has a Fedora rpm available and
>>> > which does not run on PCLOS, for unknown reasons.
>>> >
>>> > Suggestions, please.
>>> >
>>> > Thanx--doug
>>> > --
>>>
>>> Hey Doug,
>>>
>>> Any particular reason you aren't using  64 bit Fedora?  If it's
>>> because of a 32bit app, the chance of it working on x86_64 is *very
>>> high* and so worth trying.
>>>
>>> --Pete
>>>
>>> May I suggest the 64 bit - the graphics are much faster. 32 bit is
>>> glunky for 2/3D and animation.
>> Roger
>>
>>
> Well, the reason was that I had the disk. So I listened to the sage
> advice from the list here, and started to download the file. I have the
> usual cable connection, and I thought
> I'd have the file in 20 minutes or so. The estimate was 4½ hours! I said
> to go ahead, and then after about 2½ hours I accidentally aborted it.
> I'll try again late tonite.
> I'm downloadeing from fedoraproject.org.
> --doug

That's too bad Doug. But bad things do happen from time to time.

"the sage advice from the list"? Really> Users trying to help users.

Good luck here with that attitude.



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Re: Install problem (Fedora 20-32bit

2014-06-08 Thread Doug


On 06/08/2014 01:35 AM, Roger wrote:

On 06/08/2014 03:21 PM, Pete Travis wrote:



On Jun 7, 2014 9:01 PM, "Doug" > wrote:

>
> Trying to install Fedora 20 32-bit version on a multiboot system 
(Windows 8.1 + PCLOS 32 + PCLOS 64) into a standard partition.
> Got up past setting passwords for root and user. Then it crashed 
with the following message:

>
> ***
>
> The following error occurred whil installing. This is a fatal error 
and installation will be aborted.

>
> error population transaction: failure: 
Packages/s/systemd-python-208-9.fe20.:686.rpm from anaconda:

> [Errno 256] No more mirrors to try.
>
> *
> Machine is desktop 64-bit Intel processor with 8GB ram, connected 
to Internet, Nvidia graphics. Uses BIOS, not UEFI.
> I want to install Fedora in order to run Linux version of 
DraftSight cad program, which has a Fedora rpm available and

> which does not run on PCLOS, for unknown reasons.
>
> Suggestions, please.
>
> Thanx--doug
> --

Hey Doug,

Any particular reason you aren't using  64 bit Fedora?  If it's 
because of a 32bit app, the chance of it working on x86_64 is *very 
high* and so worth trying.


--Pete

May I suggest the 64 bit - the graphics are much faster. 32 bit is 
glunky for 2/3D and animation.

Roger


Well, the reason was that I had the disk. So I listened to the sage 
advice from the list here, and started to download the file. I have the 
usual cable connection, and I thought
I'd have the file in 20 minutes or so. The estimate was 4½ hours! I said 
to go ahead, and then after about 2½ hours I accidentally aborted it. 
I'll try again late tonite.

I'm downloadeing from fedoraproject.org.
--doug

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Re: Install problem (Fedora 20-32bit

2014-06-07 Thread Roger

On 06/08/2014 03:21 PM, Pete Travis wrote:



On Jun 7, 2014 9:01 PM, "Doug" > wrote:

>
> Trying to install Fedora 20 32-bit version on a multiboot system 
(Windows 8.1 + PCLOS 32 + PCLOS 64) into a standard partition.
> Got up past setting passwords for root and user. Then it crashed 
with the following message:

>
> ***
>
> The following error occurred whil installing. This is a fatal error 
and installation will be aborted.

>
> error population transaction: failure: 
Packages/s/systemd-python-208-9.fe20.:686.rpm from anaconda:

> [Errno 256] No more mirrors to try.
>
> *
> Machine is desktop 64-bit Intel processor with 8GB ram, connected to 
Internet, Nvidia graphics. Uses BIOS, not UEFI.
> I want to install Fedora in order to run Linux version of DraftSight 
cad program, which has a Fedora rpm available and

> which does not run on PCLOS, for unknown reasons.
>
> Suggestions, please.
>
> Thanx--doug
> --

Hey Doug,

Any particular reason you aren't using  64 bit Fedora?  If it's 
because of a 32bit app, the chance of it working on x86_64 is *very 
high* and so worth trying.


--Pete



May I suggest the 64 bit - the graphics are much faster. 32 bit is 
glunky for 2/3D and animation.

Roger
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Re: Install problem (Fedora 20-32bit

2014-06-07 Thread Pete Travis
On Jun 7, 2014 9:01 PM, "Doug"  wrote:
>
> Trying to install Fedora 20 32-bit version on a multiboot system (Windows
8.1 + PCLOS 32 + PCLOS 64) into a standard partition.
> Got up past setting passwords for root and user. Then it crashed with the
following message:
>
> ***
>
> The following error occurred whil installing. This is a fatal error and
installation will be aborted.
>
> error population transaction: failure:
Packages/s/systemd-python-208-9.fe20.:686.rpm from anaconda:
> [Errno 256] No more mirrors to try.
>
> *
> Machine is desktop 64-bit Intel processor with 8GB ram, connected to
Internet, Nvidia graphics. Uses BIOS, not UEFI.
> I want to install Fedora in order to run Linux version of DraftSight cad
program, which has a Fedora rpm available and
> which does not run on PCLOS, for unknown reasons.
>
> Suggestions, please.
>
> Thanx--doug
> --

Hey Doug,

Any particular reason you aren't using  64 bit Fedora?  If it's because of
a 32bit app, the chance of it working on x86_64 is *very high* and so worth
trying.

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Install problem (Fedora 20-32bit

2014-06-07 Thread Doug
Trying to install Fedora 20 32-bit version on a multiboot system 
(Windows 8.1 + PCLOS 32 + PCLOS 64) into a standard partition.
Got up past setting passwords for root and user. Then it crashed with 
the following message:


***

The following error occurred whil installing. This is a fatal error and 
installation will be aborted.


error population transaction: failure: 
Packages/s/systemd-python-208-9.fe20.:686.rpm from anaconda:

[Errno 256] No more mirrors to try.

*
Machine is desktop 64-bit Intel processor with 8GB ram, connected to 
Internet, Nvidia graphics. Uses BIOS, not UEFI.
I want to install Fedora in order to run Linux version of DraftSight cad 
program, which has a Fedora rpm available and

which does not run on PCLOS, for unknown reasons.

Suggestions, please.

Thanx--doug
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Re: Install problem

2014-01-24 Thread Doug

On 01/19/2014 08:04 PM, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:

On 01/19/2014 03:37 PM, Doug wrote:
Trying to install Fedora 32 KDE on second hard drive. This drive has 
been partitioned with /dev/sdb1 formatted as NTFS, and /dev/sdb5 and 
/dev/sdb6
formatted as ext4.  The Fedora install disk says there is only 2.77MB 
available on the disk. What gives, and how do I fix it?


After mounting the disk partitions using PCLOS, I do a df -a and see 
this:


Filesystem  Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on

/dev/sdb649G  180M   46G   1% 
/media/662eba9a-9b8f-41c3-83b9-ebe7a99a27c9

/dev/sdb151G67M   51G   1% /media/094E20372CEB488B
/dev/sdb549G  180M   46G   1% 
/media/a0ba2017-3c90-4dfb-b946-f737050f63e7


Please advise--doug
2.77MB is the space that is not used by any partition. If you want to 
do an automatic install, delete partition 5 and 6 and let the install 
create the partitions it is going to use. If the partitions have data 
you want to keep, then you can not easily install from a live CD. You 
have to do a custom partitioning telling the installer to use the 
existing partitions and where you want to mount them.


Mikkel
I could not find an option to use a standard file system. Since any 
distro that I install, either in a partition on /dev/sda or /dev/sdb, 
must share the hardware
with other distros and Windows, and must be readable by other Linux 
distros, I finally gave up. I don't know what the filesystems that 
Fedora wants to use
are, I never heard of them, and my Linux (PCLOS) can't read them, nor 
will the Fedora install give me an option to use only part of the disk, 
I really
want nothing to do with it.  My intention was to use the Fedora 32-bit 
system to access a program not available on my choice of everyday 
distro, and
it seems I can't, I have decided to install Kubuntu, which behaves. I'm 
surprised that anyone would use Fedora.


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Re: Install problem

2014-01-19 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson

On 01/19/2014 03:37 PM, Doug wrote:
Trying to install Fedora 32 KDE on second hard drive. This drive 
has been partitioned with /dev/sdb1 formatted as NTFS, and 
/dev/sdb5 and /dev/sdb6
formatted as ext4.  The Fedora install disk says there is only 
2.77MB available on the disk. What gives, and how do I fix it?


After mounting the disk partitions using PCLOS, I do a df -a and 
see this:


Filesystem  Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on

/dev/sdb649G  180M   46G   1% 
/media/662eba9a-9b8f-41c3-83b9-ebe7a99a27c9

/dev/sdb151G67M   51G   1% /media/094E20372CEB488B
/dev/sdb549G  180M   46G   1% 
/media/a0ba2017-3c90-4dfb-b946-f737050f63e7


Please advise--doug
2.77MB is the space that is not used by any partition. If you want 
to do an automatic install, delete partition 5 and 6 and let the 
install create the partitions it is going to use. If the partitions 
have data you want to keep, then you can not easily install from a 
live CD. You have to do a custom partitioning telling the installer 
to use the existing partitions and where you want to mount them.


Mikkel
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Install problem

2014-01-19 Thread Doug
Trying to install Fedora 32 KDE on second hard drive. This drive has 
been partitioned with /dev/sdb1 formatted as NTFS, and /dev/sdb5 and 
/dev/sdb6
formatted as ext4.  The Fedora install disk says there is only 2.77MB 
available on the disk. What gives, and how do I fix it?


After mounting the disk partitions using PCLOS, I do a df -a and see this:

Filesystem  Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on

/dev/sdb649G  180M   46G   1% 
/media/662eba9a-9b8f-41c3-83b9-ebe7a99a27c9

/dev/sdb151G67M   51G   1% /media/094E20372CEB488B
/dev/sdb549G  180M   46G   1% 
/media/a0ba2017-3c90-4dfb-b946-f737050f63e7


Please advise--doug
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Re: VMware install problem -

2013-09-05 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 05.09.2013 19:54, schrieb Bob Goodwin ~ Zuni, Virginia, USA:
> On 05/09/13 13:01, Reindl Harald wrote:
>> Am 05.09.2013 18:43, schrieb Bob Goodwin ~ Zuni, Virginia, USA:
>>> 2013-09-05T12:32:39.424-05:00| vthread-3| I120: The header path
>>> "/lib/modules/3.10.10-200.fc19.x86_64/build/include" for the kernel 
>>> "3.10.10-200.fc19.x86_64" is valid.  Whoohoo!
>>> 2013-09-05T12:32:43.232-05:00| vthread-3| W110: Failed to build vmblock.  
>>> Failed to execute the build command.
>>>
>>> Perhaps someone has experience with VMware and can make a suggestion?
>> as lways if you think you need the latest kernel and a bleeding-edge OS
>>
>> https://www.google.at/search?q=wmare+workstation+kernel+3.10
>> and replace the 3.10 with the kernel you try
>>
>> http://uwot.eu/blog/2013/07/linux-kernel-3-10-and-vmware-workstation-9/
>>
> I am not fond of any particular kernel, they just come with the system 
> updates as you well know.
> 
> Booted the oldest kernel I have left,
> 
> [root@box10 source]# uname -a
> Linux box10 3.10.7-200.fc19.x86_64 #1 SMP Thu Aug 15 23:19:45 UTC 2013 x86_64 
> x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

3.10 remains 3.10 - the 10 makes the difference because
it is a new kerne version and not only a bugfix release

> And get the error:
> 
> [root@box10 source]# patch -p0 -i /tmp/vmblock-9.0.2-5.0.2-3.10.patch
> patch:  Can't open patch file /tmp/vmblock-9.0.2-5.0.2-3.10.patch : No 
> such file or directory
> 
> Do I need an older kernel? I don't understand what I am doing, just following 
> instructions, where does the "patch"
> come from?

you are *not* following the instructions because they are clearly contain these
two curl-commands downloading the patches, if you follwed the first step
"cd /tmp" to the /tmp directory and the full path is referred by the next steps

curl -O 
http://pkgbuild.com/git/aur-mirror.git/plain/vmware-patch/vmblock-9.0.2-5.0.2-3.10.patch
curl -O 
http://pkgbuild.com/git/aur-mirror.git/plain/vmware-patch/vmnet-9.0.2-5.0.2-3.10.patch



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Re: VMware install problem -

2013-09-05 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 05.09.2013 18:43, schrieb Bob Goodwin ~ Zuni, Virginia, USA:
> 2013-09-05T12:32:39.424-05:00| vthread-3| I120: The header path
> "/lib/modules/3.10.10-200.fc19.x86_64/build/include" for the kernel 
> "3.10.10-200.fc19.x86_64" is valid.  Whoohoo!
> 2013-09-05T12:32:43.232-05:00| vthread-3| W110: Failed to build vmblock.  
> Failed to execute the build command.
> 
> Perhaps someone has experience with VMware and can make a suggestion?

as lways if you think you need the latest kernel and a bleeding-edge OS

https://www.google.at/search?q=wmare+workstation+kernel+3.10
and replace the 3.10 with the kernel you try

http://uwot.eu/blog/2013/07/linux-kernel-3-10-and-vmware-workstation-9/


u[root@srv-rhsoft:~]$ uname -r
3.10.10-100.fc18.x86_64 #1 SMP Thu Aug 29 20:13:09 UTC 2013

[root@srv-rhsoft:~]$ /scripts/vmware/vmrun.sh
HOST: srv-rhsoft.rhsoft.net
Total running VMs: 2
/mnt/data/fileserver/vmware/testserver/config.vmx
/mnt/data/fileserver/vmware/arrakis/arrakis.vmx



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Re: VMware install problem -

2013-09-05 Thread Raman Gupta
On 09/05/2013 03:08 PM, Bob Goodwin ~ Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
> However I am still unable to enter the key. It wont even let me type
> in the "enter key" box.

Yeah, I had this problem too. Try this:

sudo /usr/lib/vmware/bin/vmware-vmx --new-sn xxx

(from: https://communities.vmware.com/thread/415595?start=0&tstart=0)

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Re: VMware install problem -

2013-09-05 Thread Bob Goodwin ~ Zuni, Virginia, USA

On 05/09/13 16:51, Raman Gupta wrote:

On 09/05/2013 03:08 PM, Bob Goodwin ~ Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:

However I am still unable to enter the key. It wont even let me type
in the "enter key" box.

Yeah, I had this problem too. Try this:

sudo /usr/lib/vmware/bin/vmware-vmx --new-sn xxx

(from: https://communities.vmware.com/thread/415595?start=0&tstart=0)

Regards,
Raman



Raman

Yes, that seems to have done the trick. I've wasted most of the day 
fiddling with this. That probably would have enabled my trial 
subscription to work had I known ...


Thank you,

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Re: VMware install problem -

2013-09-05 Thread Bob Goodwin ~ Zuni, Virginia, USA

On 05/09/13 14:12, Reindl Harald wrote:

you are *not* following the instructions because they are clearly contain these
two curl-commands downloading the patches, if you follwed the first step
"cd /tmp" to the /tmp directory and the full path is referred by the next steps

curl 
-Ohttp://pkgbuild.com/git/aur-mirror.git/plain/vmware-patch/vmblock-9.0.2-5.0.2-3.10.patch
curl 
-Ohttp://pkgbuild.com/git/aur-mirror.git/plain/vmware-patch/vmnet-9.0.2-5.0.2-3.10.patch


No, I followed the instructions exactly, copy/paste!

I went through it again and this time it worked!

However I am still unable to enter the key. It wont even let me type in 
the "enter key" box.


Now it wants me to buy VMware 10 instead! I don't know what's going on 
but I guess I will have to deal with VMware directly. I have been 
reluctant to do that after earlier phone contacts that accomplished nothing.


Can I enter the key from the command line, does anyone know how to do that?

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Re: VMware install problem -

2013-09-05 Thread Bob Goodwin ~ Zuni, Virginia, USA

On 05/09/13 13:54, Bob Goodwin ~ Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:

On 05/09/13 13:01, Reindl Harald wrote:


Am 05.09.2013 18:43, schrieb Bob Goodwin ~ Zuni, Virginia, USA:

2013-09-05T12:32:39.424-05:00| vthread-3| I120: The header path
"/lib/modules/3.10.10-200.fc19.x86_64/build/include" for the kernel 
"3.10.10-200.fc19.x86_64" is valid.  Whoohoo!
2013-09-05T12:32:43.232-05:00| vthread-3| W110: Failed to build 
vmblock.  Failed to execute the build command.


Perhaps someone has experience with VMware and can make a suggestion?

as lways if you think you need the latest kernel and a bleeding-edge OS

https://www.google.at/search?q=wmare+workstation+kernel+3.10
and replace the 3.10 with the kernel you try

http://uwot.eu/blog/2013/07/linux-kernel-3-10-and-vmware-workstation-9/


u[root@srv-rhsoft:~]$ uname -r
3.10.10-100.fc18.x86_64 #1 SMP Thu Aug 29 20:13:09 UTC 2013

[root@srv-rhsoft:~]$ /scripts/vmware/vmrun.sh
HOST: srv-rhsoft.rhsoft.net
Total running VMs: 2
/mnt/data/fileserver/vmware/testserver/config.vmx
/mnt/data/fileserver/vmware/arrakis/arrakis.vmx



I am not fond of any particular kernel, they just come with the system 
updates as you well know.


Booted the oldest kernel I have left,

[root@box10 source]# uname -a
Linux box10 3.10.7-200.fc19.x86_64 #1 SMP Thu Aug 15 23:19:45 UTC 2013 
x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux


And get the error:

[root@box10 source]# patch -p0 -i /tmp/vmblock-9.0.2-5.0.2-3.10.patch
patch:  Can't open patch file /tmp/vmblock-9.0.2-5.0.2-3.10.patch 
: No such file or directory


Do I need an older kernel? I don't understand what I am doing, just 
following instructions, where does the "patch" come from?




Ok, I see the patch has to come from "git"? This is the same version of 
VMware as the trial that I installed about a month ago and it worked 
until yesterday so I must conclude that the "patch" is tied to a 
specific kernel. So what I need is the kernel from 30 days ago?


How do I deal with that? Can I still install an older kernel, I suspect 
that will cause trouble?


I'm in over myhead here.

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Re: VMware install problem -

2013-09-05 Thread Bob Goodwin ~ Zuni, Virginia, USA

On 05/09/13 13:01, Reindl Harald wrote:


Am 05.09.2013 18:43, schrieb Bob Goodwin ~ Zuni, Virginia, USA:

2013-09-05T12:32:39.424-05:00| vthread-3| I120: The header path
"/lib/modules/3.10.10-200.fc19.x86_64/build/include" for the kernel 
"3.10.10-200.fc19.x86_64" is valid.  Whoohoo!
2013-09-05T12:32:43.232-05:00| vthread-3| W110: Failed to build vmblock.  
Failed to execute the build command.

Perhaps someone has experience with VMware and can make a suggestion?

as lways if you think you need the latest kernel and a bleeding-edge OS

https://www.google.at/search?q=wmare+workstation+kernel+3.10
and replace the 3.10 with the kernel you try

http://uwot.eu/blog/2013/07/linux-kernel-3-10-and-vmware-workstation-9/


u[root@srv-rhsoft:~]$ uname -r
3.10.10-100.fc18.x86_64 #1 SMP Thu Aug 29 20:13:09 UTC 2013

[root@srv-rhsoft:~]$ /scripts/vmware/vmrun.sh
HOST: srv-rhsoft.rhsoft.net
Total running VMs: 2
/mnt/data/fileserver/vmware/testserver/config.vmx
/mnt/data/fileserver/vmware/arrakis/arrakis.vmx



I am not fond of any particular kernel, they just come with the system 
updates as you well know.


Booted the oldest kernel I have left,

[root@box10 source]# uname -a
Linux box10 3.10.7-200.fc19.x86_64 #1 SMP Thu Aug 15 23:19:45 UTC 2013 
x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux


And get the error:

[root@box10 source]# patch -p0 -i /tmp/vmblock-9.0.2-5.0.2-3.10.patch
patch:  Can't open patch file /tmp/vmblock-9.0.2-5.0.2-3.10.patch : 
No such file or directory


Do I need an older kernel? I don't understand what I am doing, just 
following instructions, where does the "patch" come from?


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VMware install problem -

2013-09-05 Thread Bob Goodwin ~ Zuni, Virginia, USA
The trial version of VMware Workstation 9  expired last night. I bought 
a new version but after the expiration I found it would not accept an 
entry for a new key so I ran the vmware uninstall app. and installed the 
new one from scratch. It starts but only runs to the point where I get 
the message:


VMware kernel module updater

Before you can run VMware, several modules must be compiled and 
installed in the running kernel.


Cancel - Install

I click on install and that does nothing.

Starting vmware from the command line produces the following errors:

[root@box10 bobg]# cat /tmp/vmware-root/vmware-modconfig-6296.log

..  Snip  

2013-09-05T12:32:39.424-05:00| vthread-3| I120: The header path 
"/lib/modules/3.10.10-200.fc19.x86_64/build/include" for the kernel 
"3.10.10-200.fc19.x86_64" is valid.  Whoohoo!
2013-09-05T12:32:39.424-05:00| vthread-3| I120: The GCC version matches 
the kernel GCC minor version like a glove.
2013-09-05T12:32:39.426-05:00| vthread-3| I120: Validating path 
"/lib/modules/3.10.10-200.fc19.x86_64/build/include" for kernel release 
"3.10.10-200.fc19.x86_64".
2013-09-05T12:32:39.426-05:00| vthread-3| I120: Failed to find 
/lib/modules/3.10.10-200.fc19.x86_64/build/include/linux/version.h
2013-09-05T12:32:39.426-05:00| vthread-3| I120: 
/lib/modules/3.10.10-200.fc19.x86_64/build/include/linux/version.h not 
found, looking for generated/uapi/linux/version.h instead.
2013-09-05T12:32:39.445-05:00| vthread-3| I120: Preprocessed 
UTS_RELEASE, got value "3.10.10-200.fc19.x86_64".
2013-09-05T12:32:39.445-05:00| vthread-3| I120: The header path 
"/lib/modules/3.10.10-200.fc19.x86_64/build/include" for the kernel 
"3.10.10-200.fc19.x86_64" is valid.  Whoohoo!
2013-09-05T12:32:39.445-05:00| vthread-3| I120: The GCC version matches 
the kernel GCC minor version like a glove.

2013-09-05T12:32:39.446-05:00| vthread-3| I120: Using temp dir "/tmp".
2013-09-05T12:32:39.449-05:00| vthread-3| I120: Invoking modinfo on "vmnet".
2013-09-05T12:32:39.455-05:00| vthread-3| I120: "/sbin/modinfo" exited 
with status 256.
2013-09-05T12:32:39.455-05:00| vthread-3| I120: Invoking modinfo on 
"vmblock".
2013-09-05T12:32:39.462-05:00| vthread-3| I120: "/sbin/modinfo" exited 
with status 256.
2013-09-05T12:32:39.577-05:00| vthread-3| I120: Setting destination path 
for vmnet to "/lib/modules/3.10.10-200.fc19.x86_64/misc/vmnet.ko".
2013-09-05T12:32:39.577-05:00| vthread-3| I120: Extracting the vmnet 
source from "/usr/lib/vmware/modules/source/vmnet.tar".
2013-09-05T12:32:39.593-05:00| vthread-3| I120: Successfully extracted 
the vmnet source.
2013-09-05T12:32:39.594-05:00| vthread-3| I120: Building module with 
command "/bin/make -j4 -C /tmp/modconfig-2ncGE1/vmnet-only auto-build 
HEADER_DIR=/lib/modules/3.10.10-200.fc19.x86_64/build/include 
CC=/bin/gcc IS_GCC_3=no"
2013-09-05T12:32:41.285-05:00| vthread-3| W110: Failed to build vmnet.  
Failed to execute the build command.
2013-09-05T12:32:41.290-05:00| vthread-3| I120: Setting destination path 
for vmblock to "/lib/modules/3.10.10-200.fc19.x86_64/misc/vmblock.ko".
2013-09-05T12:32:41.290-05:00| vthread-3| I120: Extracting the vmblock 
source from "/usr/lib/vmware/modules/source/vmblock.tar".
2013-09-05T12:32:41.305-05:00| vthread-3| I120: Successfully extracted 
the vmblock source.
2013-09-05T12:32:41.306-05:00| vthread-3| I120: Building module with 
command "/bin/make -j4 -C /tmp/modconfig-2ncGE1/vmblock-only auto-build 
HEADER_DIR=/lib/modules/3.10.10-200.fc19.x86_64/build/include 
CC=/bin/gcc IS_GCC_3=no"
2013-09-05T12:32:43.232-05:00| vthread-3| W110: Failed to build 
vmblock.  Failed to execute the build command.


Perhaps someone has experience with VMware and can make a suggestion?

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F18 Install Problem

2013-05-29 Thread Mike Dwiggins
I am working with a pair of spanking new HP ProLiant ML110 G& servers.  
Both have the RAID Hot Swap SATA Arrays and I have tried Installation 
with the drive arrayed as 1 Logical Drive and as four separated drives  
with the same result in both configurations.  I have also used the Full 
Installation and the NetInstall downloads.


In all configurations a seemingly normal install results into booting 
into grub rescue!


I grub rescue I get the following results.

set
prefix=(hd0,msdos1)/grub2
root=hd0,msdos1

ls
(hd0) (hd0,msdos2) (hd0,msdos1) (fd0) (fd1)

I am not real sure what this is telling me and am totaly confused by the 
two segments labeled msdosX.


Where do I go from here?

Mike D.


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Re: USB Live Install problem -

2012-12-30 Thread Joel Rees
Well, since you've solved it using a real drive, this is a bit late, but, ...

On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 3:33 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
 wrote:
> On 29/12/12 13:14, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
>>
>> Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA writes:
>>
>>>Is there a way I can install without using the USB flash
>>>drive? There is no optical drive in that box. Is there a
>>>scheme for installing over the LAN connection?
>>
>>
>> Yes, but first you need to make sure that your target computer supports
>> booting over the network. Poke in its BIOS, see if you can find some option
>> that's described somewhere along the lines as being able to boot over the
>> network. There's usually an option somewhere that sets the order in which
>> the BIOS attempts to boot, whether the first device is the hard drive, or
>> the CD/DVD ROM, or USB. If one of those options is a network boot, you're
>> good to go. That's presuming that this is a network port on the motherboard.
>> If you have a standalone network card, the card should have its own internal
>> BIOS that you can enter during the boot, with an option to enable booting.
>>
>> The Fedora installation guide has instructions for installing Fedora over
>> the network, using a network-based boot, so I guess you can follow along,
>> but you'll need to verify that your motherboard supports a network-based
>> boot, first, otherwise you'll be wasting your time.
>>
>> I use a different, slightly order method, BTW, of manually setting up
>> DHCP, TFTP, and isolinux.
>>
>>
>>
>Ok, I will save this and give it a try but for the present I tried
>"livecreator" with an external hard drive instead of the flash
>drive. For whatever reason the hard drive worked with out a hitch.

usb drives are known to be pretty finicky. They are built cheap
firstmost and foremost.

But, something I found worked for me, after reading the warning about
the reset mbr option, run it from the command line and add the reset
master boot record option:

liveusb-creator --reset-mbr

I'm guessing this will be especially useful for drives that have been
reformatted and such.

(Use the --help option to find more options.)

>The installer was difficult for me to use, among other things gray
>text on a light gray background, I gave up and used the install
>defaults ...
>
>Thank you,

(I've been thinking we need to re-emphasize the install processes that
don't require rebooting just to start the install.)

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Re: USB Live Install problem -

2012-12-29 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA

On 29/12/12 13:14, Sam Varshavchik wrote:

Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA writes:


   Is there a way I can install without using the USB flash
   drive? There is no optical drive in that box. Is there a
   scheme for installing over the LAN connection?


Yes, but first you need to make sure that your target computer 
supports booting over the network. Poke in its BIOS, see if you can 
find some option that's described somewhere along the lines as being 
able to boot over the network. There's usually an option somewhere 
that sets the order in which the BIOS attempts to boot, whether the 
first device is the hard drive, or the CD/DVD ROM, or USB. If one of 
those options is a network boot, you're good to go. That's presuming 
that this is a network port on the motherboard. If you have a 
standalone network card, the card should have its own internal BIOS 
that you can enter during the boot, with an option to enable booting.


The Fedora installation guide has instructions for installing Fedora 
over the network, using a network-based boot, so I guess you can 
follow along, but you'll need to verify that your motherboard supports 
a network-based boot, first, otherwise you'll be wasting your time.


I use a different, slightly order method, BTW, of manually setting up 
DHCP, TFTP, and isolinux.





   Ok, I will save this and give it a try but for the present I tried
   "livecreator" with an external hard drive instead of the flash
   drive. For whatever reason the hard drive worked with out a hitch.

   The installer was difficult for me to use, among other things gray
   text on a light gray background, I gave up and used the install
   defaults ...

   Thank you,

   Bob

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Re: USB Live Install problem -

2012-12-29 Thread Sam Varshavchik

Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA writes:


   Is there a way I can install without using the USB flash
   drive? There is no optical drive in that box. Is there a
   scheme for installing over the LAN connection?


Yes, but first you need to make sure that your target computer supports  
booting over the network. Poke in its BIOS, see if you can find some option  
that's described somewhere along the lines as being able to boot over the  
network. There's usually an option somewhere that sets the order in which  
the BIOS attempts to boot, whether the first device is the hard drive, or  
the CD/DVD ROM, or USB. If one of those options is a network boot, you're  
good to go. That's presuming that this is a network port on the motherboard.  
If you have a standalone network card, the card should have its own internal  
BIOS that you can enter during the boot, with an option to enable booting.


The Fedora installation guide has instructions for installing Fedora over  
the network, using a network-based boot, so I guess you can follow along,  
but you'll need to verify that your motherboard supports a network-based  
boot, first, otherwise you'll be wasting your time.


I use a different, slightly order method, BTW, of manually setting up DHCP,  
TFTP, and isolinux.




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Re: USB Live Install problem -

2012-12-29 Thread g

On 12/29/2012 05:04 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
<>


> Is there a scheme for installing over the LAN connection?

from my bookmarks, this link may do it for you; [watch line wrap]

http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/13/html/Installation_Guide/s1-begininstall-perform-nfs-x86.html

also, if that does not cover it, google with

  "all these words" = fedora install internet

and you should find more than what you need.

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USB Live Install problem -

2012-12-29 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA


   On this computer I have a copy of
   "Fedora-18-Beta-x86_64-Live-XFCE.iso" I would like to
   install on another computer. It has a GiGabyte GA-E350N
   motherboard which has a recognized problem booting from a
   thumb drive. I've used "livecreator" on three different
   thumb drives and tried everything I can find to get it to
   boot without success, although in the past I have managed,
   not this time!

   Is there a way I can install without using the USB flash
   drive? There is no optical drive in that box. Is there a
   scheme for installing over the LAN connection? About all I
   can think of at this point is to swap a drive into another
   computer that will boot from the flash drive but that's more
   work than I planned on, but could do ...

   Bob

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Re: Firefox install-problem

2012-08-04 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 04.08.2012, James Wilkinson wrote: 

> Even though the build was OK, you still might want to do a memtest of
> your system.

I solved the problem. The culprit is prelink, which lets parts of the
package clash. Didn't find the related bugreport st once, though, and spent
some hours digging into the problem. Baah!

A workaround is to uninstall prelink, compile firefox, and re-install
it afterwards. 

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=832772

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Re: Firefox install-problem

2012-08-04 Thread James Wilkinson
Heinz Diehl wrote:
> Firefox, built from .srpm from F17-updates repository, fails to install:
> This is the error-message which shows up:
> 
> "Unpacking of archive failed on file /usr/lib64/firefox/firefox;501bceec: 
> cpio: Digest mismatch"
> 
> The package is original Fedora and not altered in any way. Extracted
> it, ran "rpmbuild -bb" on the .spec file, and the built was ok.
> 
> Does anybody know what's the cause or where to look?

Even though the build was OK, you still might want to do a memtest of
your system. (You can do that from Fedora live media, if you have any:
it’s an option on the boot menu. You can probably do it from a normal
Fedora install DVD, but I don’t have one around to check at the moment.)

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Firefox install-problem

2012-08-03 Thread Heinz Diehl
Hi,

Firefox, built from .srpm from F17-updates repository, fails to install:
This is the error-message which shows up:

"Unpacking of archive failed on file /usr/lib64/firefox/firefox;501bceec: cpio: 
Digest mismatch"

The package is original Fedora and not altered in any way. Extracted
it, ran "rpmbuild -bb" on the .spec file, and the built was ok.

Does anybody know what's the cause or where to look?

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Re: F-17 vlc/rpmfusion install problem -

2012-06-02 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA

On 01/06/12 18:54, Carroll Grigsby wrote:

 Bob: Take a look here: 
http://www.mjmwired.net/resources/mjm-fedora-f16.html Although this site 
is for Fedora 16, it worked OK for me on Fedora 17, and I expect that 
the new version will be available within the next few days. It's a bit 
like a cafeteria: just go down the line and take what you want. I've 
been using it since at least Fedora 8. Best part: No typing, just cut 
and paste. -- cmg


   Thanks Carroll, I looked at the page and saved the address. I have
   been saving information in "Notecase" for several years and have a
   large file of good information, much of it from this mailing list.
   It's all pretty well organized and I can usually find what I need.
   This problem has added another page to my collection ...

   Bob


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Re: F-17 vlc/rpmfusion install problem -

2012-06-01 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 1 Jun 2012 18:54:28 -0400, Carroll Grigsby wrote:

> Bob:
> Take a look here:
> 
> http://www.mjmwired.net/resources/mjm-fedora-f16.html
> 
> Although this site is for Fedora 16, it worked OK for me on Fedora 17,
> and I expect that the new version will be available within the next few
> days. It's a bit like a cafeteria: just go down the line and take what
> you want. I've been using it since at least Fedora 8.
> 
> Best part: No typing, just cut and paste.

The problem in this thread has been that the rpmfusion-*-release packages
were installed already, but their file contents were damaged. Hence a "yum
reinstall …" of those packages was not an option. It was necessary to
repair the files. Erasing the installed packages and installing them again
was one of many ways how to achieve that. For other package problems, one
likely would not have gone the erase+install route.

[...]

Btw, "rpm" can access the network directly, too, so commands like

  rpm -ivh http://…/something.rpm

do work. That is not suggested too often, however, since if installation
fails (for various reasons), running the command again results in another
download.

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Re: F-17 vlc/rpmfusion install problem -

2012-06-01 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Fri, 01 Jun 2012 17:20:45 -0400
"Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA"  wrote:

>
> Big whack
> 

Bob:
Take a look here:

http://www.mjmwired.net/resources/mjm-fedora-f16.html

Although this site is for Fedora 16, it worked OK for me on Fedora 17,
and I expect that the new version will be available within the next few
days. It's a bit like a cafeteria: just go down the line and take what
you want. I've been using it since at least Fedora 8.

Best part: No typing, just cut and paste.

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Re: F-17 vlc/rpmfusion install problem -

2012-06-01 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA

On 01/06/12 17:11, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:

Can you download that file with your favourite browser?
If yes, userpm -ivh rpmfusion-free-release-stable.noarch.rpm
to install it within the directory you downloaded it to. 


   Yes that works:

   [root@box7 bobg]# wget
   
http://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/rpmfusion-free-release-stable.noarch.rpm
   --2012-06-01 17:14:40-- 
   http://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/rpmfusion-free-release-stable.noarch.rpm

   Resolving download1.rpmfusion.org... 193.28.235.60
   Connecting to download1.rpmfusion.org|193.28.235.60|:80... connected.
   HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
   Length: 16913 (17K) [application/x-rpm]
   Saving to: `rpmfusion-free-release-stable.noarch.rpm'

   
100%[=>]
   16,913  --.-K/s   in 0.01s

   2012-06-01 17:14:41 (1.49 MB/s) -
   `rpmfusion-free-release-stable.noarch.rpm' saved [16913/16913]

   That would be a much simpler way of dealing with the rpmfusion
   repos. I will make note of that for the future.

   Bob



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Re: F-17 vlc/rpmfusion install problem -

2012-06-01 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA

On 01/06/12 16:24, Michael Schwendt wrote:

Good.  So, that raises the question why you have .repo files for
rpmfusion repos in /etc/yum.repos.d/? And those are damaged or invalid.

Let's continue with the instructions at:

   http://rpmfusion.org/Configuration

What works for you? What doesn't? In section "Graphical Setup via Firefox
web browser" one can simply click'n'install the package without problems.

Earlier, you've written this:

  | [root@box9 bobg]# yum localinstall --nogpgcheck
  
|http://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/rpmfusion-free-release-stable.noarch.rpm
  | [...]
  | Cannot open:
  
|http://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/rpmfusion-free-release-stable.noarch.rpm.
  |

The "Cannot open" is suspicous, because the download location certainly
is valid and works here. Does Yum work at all for you?
Can you download that file with your favourite browser?
If yes, userpm -ivh rpmfusion-free-release-stable.noarch.rpm
to install it within the directory you downloaded it to.


   Yes yum works as expected otherwise. I've been using yum with no
   problem for two days to configure that computer,

   I tried both methods described on that page, graphical and command
   line, neither worked for me.

   I don't know what other damage might be left behind but I can see my
   horses in the back pasture once more which was the primary object of
   this exercise.

   Thanks,

   Bob


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Re: F-17 vlc/rpmfusion install problem -

2012-06-01 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA

On 01/06/12 16:28, Michael Schwendt wrote:

These typos (wrong space characters= in the earlier reply caused too much
confusion.  It should have been

   rpm -e rpmfusion-free-release rpmfusion-nonfree-release

Sorry. This is very basic RPM usage. One should not simply sit and wait
for step-by-step instructions, but notice minor mistakes. A query like

   rpm --query rpmfusion-free-release rpmfusion-nonfree-release

would have told whether the packages are installed.

   rpm -qf /etc/yum.repos.d/rpmfusion*

would have given a hint, too. Can't be too hard.


   Sorry, no excuse for the typo. I do recognize my own inability to
   type accurately and normally catch errors. In that case, what I sent
   you was done from this computer via ssh but had been done several
   times , cut and paste, on box9, the unit in trouble.

   I think I've fixed the problem though. VLC is installing now as I
   type this.

   I simply copied the repo files from this box7 [F-16/64] to box9 via
   stfp. Once done yum install vlc worked.

   Yes VLC starts now on box9.

   I thank you very much for your help, without it I would still be
   struggling ...

   I will save your comments in my notes for the next time.

   Bob




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Re: F-17 vlc/rpmfusion install problem -

2012-06-01 Thread Terry Polzin
On Fri, 2012-06-01 at 22:24 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> On Fri, 01 Jun 2012 16:11:19 -0400, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
> 
> > On 01/06/12 15:53, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> > > Try again. Use cut'n'paste. Don't introduce type mistakes.
> > > What you've run is not what I've suggested.
> > >   
> > 
> > [root@box9 bobg]# rpm -e rpmfusion-release-nonfree
> > rpmfusion-release-free
> > error: package rpmfusion-release-nonfree is not installed
> > error: package rpmfusion-release-free is not installed
> 
> Good.  So, that raises the question why you have .repo files for
> rpmfusion repos in /etc/yum.repos.d/? And those are damaged or invalid.
> 
> Let's continue with the instructions at:
> 
>   http://rpmfusion.org/Configuration
> 
> What works for you? What doesn't? In section "Graphical Setup via Firefox
> web browser" one can simply click'n'install the package without problems.
> 
> Earlier, you've written this:
> 
>  | [root@box9 bobg]# yum localinstall --nogpgcheck
>  | 
> http://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/rpmfusion-free-release-stable.noarch.rpm
>  | [...]
>  | Cannot open:
>  | 
> http://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/rpmfusion-free-release-stable.noarch.rpm.
>  |
> 
> The "Cannot open" is suspicous, because the download location certainly
> is valid and works here. Does Yum work at all for you?
> Can you download that file with your favourite browser?
> If yes, userpm -ivh rpmfusion-free-release-stable.noarch.rpm
> to install it within the directory you downloaded it to.
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I've no issues installing vlc after first installing rpmfusion free
followed by nonfree.

I downloaded the packages for the repos and installed then with "yum
localinstall [package name] as root.


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Re: F-17 vlc/rpmfusion install problem -

2012-06-01 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 01 Jun 2012 16:16:06 -0400, Elliott Chapin wrote:

> On 06/01/2012 04:11 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
> > On 01/06/12 15:53, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> >> Try again. Use cut'n'paste. Don't introduce type mistakes.
> >> What you've run is not what I've suggested.
> >>   
> > 
> >[root@box9 bobg]# rpm -e rpmfusion-release-nonfree
> >rpmfusion-release-free
> >error: package rpmfusion-release-nonfree is not installed
> >error: package rpmfusion-release-free is not installed
> > 
> > 
> 
> do the free first

These typos (wrong space characters= in the earlier reply caused too much
confusion.  It should have been

  rpm -e rpmfusion-free-release rpmfusion-nonfree-release

Sorry. This is very basic RPM usage. One should not simply sit and wait
for step-by-step instructions, but notice minor mistakes. A query like

  rpm --query rpmfusion-free-release rpmfusion-nonfree-release

would have told whether the packages are installed.

  rpm -qf /etc/yum.repos.d/rpmfusion*

would have given a hint, too. Can't be too hard.

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Re: F-17 vlc/rpmfusion install problem -

2012-06-01 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 01 Jun 2012 16:11:19 -0400, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:

> On 01/06/12 15:53, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> > Try again. Use cut'n'paste. Don't introduce type mistakes.
> > What you've run is not what I've suggested.
> >   
> 
> [root@box9 bobg]# rpm -e rpmfusion-release-nonfree
> rpmfusion-release-free
> error: package rpmfusion-release-nonfree is not installed
> error: package rpmfusion-release-free is not installed

Good.  So, that raises the question why you have .repo files for
rpmfusion repos in /etc/yum.repos.d/? And those are damaged or invalid.

Let's continue with the instructions at:

  http://rpmfusion.org/Configuration

What works for you? What doesn't? In section "Graphical Setup via Firefox
web browser" one can simply click'n'install the package without problems.

Earlier, you've written this:

 | [root@box9 bobg]# yum localinstall --nogpgcheck
 | 
http://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/rpmfusion-free-release-stable.noarch.rpm
 | [...]
 | Cannot open:
 | 
http://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/rpmfusion-free-release-stable.noarch.rpm.
 |

The "Cannot open" is suspicous, because the download location certainly
is valid and works here. Does Yum work at all for you?
Can you download that file with your favourite browser?
If yes, userpm -ivh rpmfusion-free-release-stable.noarch.rpm
to install it within the directory you downloaded it to.

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Re: F-17 vlc/rpmfusion install problem -

2012-06-01 Thread Elliott Chapin
On 06/01/2012 04:11 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
> On 01/06/12 15:53, Michael Schwendt wrote:
>> Try again. Use cut'n'paste. Don't introduce type mistakes.
>> What you've run is not what I've suggested.
>>   
> 
>[root@box9 bobg]# rpm -e rpmfusion-release-nonfree
>rpmfusion-release-free
>error: package rpmfusion-release-nonfree is not installed
>error: package rpmfusion-release-free is not installed
> 
> 

do the free first

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Re: F-17 vlc/rpmfusion install problem -

2012-06-01 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA

On 01/06/12 15:53, Michael Schwendt wrote:

Try again. Use cut'n'paste. Don't introduce type mistakes.
What you've run is not what I've suggested.
  


   [root@box9 bobg]# rpm -e rpmfusion-release-nonfree
   rpmfusion-release-free
   error: package rpmfusion-release-nonfree is not installed
   error: package rpmfusion-release-free is not installed


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Re: F-17 vlc/rpmfusion install problem -

2012-06-01 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 01 Jun 2012 15:10:42 -0400, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:

> On 01/06/12 13:33, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> > On Fri, 01 Jun 2012 12:48:17 -0400, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
> >
> >> On 01/06/12 12:07, suvayu ali wrote:
> >>> On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 5:02 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
> >>>wrote:
>  Ok, well maybe what I need is to get rpmfusion-free installed which
>  I don't see in my list of yum repos? I haven't been able to get that
>  either.
> >>> http://rpmfusion.org/Configuration
> >>>
> >>  For whatever reason I have:
> >>
> >>  [bobg@box9 ~]$ cd /etc/yum.repos.d
> >>  [bobg@box9 yum.repos.d]$ ll rpmfusion*
> >>  -rw-r--r--. 1 root root0 Jun  1 12:27
> >>  rpmfusion-free-rawhide.repo
> >>  -rw-r--r--. 1 root root0 Jun  1 12:21 rpmfusion-free.repo
> >>  -rw-r--r--. 1 root root0 Jun  1 12:29
> >>  rpmfusion-free-updates.repo
> >>  -rw-r--r--. 1 root root0 Jun  1 12:28
> >>  rpmfusion-free-updates-testing.repo
> >>  -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 1393 Feb 27 17:03
> >>  rpmfusion-nonfree-rawhide.repo
> >>  -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 1247 Oct 28  2011 rpmfusion-nonfree.repo
> >>  -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 1245 Oct 28  2011
> >>  rpmfusion-nonfree-updates.repo
> >>  -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 1305 May 17  2009
> >>  rpmfusion-nonfree-updates-testing.repo
> >>
> >>  And haven't been able to fix it.
> > More interesting might be to understand "what the hell have you done
> > to arrive in such a situation"? ;)
> >
> >> Following the VLC Configuration
> >>  instruction doesn't deal with this, but it just keeps telling me
> >>  that each step is installed? I recreated the "rpmfusion-free" files
> >>  but they remain empty. Is there a yum command to restore them, it's
> >>  not obvious to me from the man page?
> > Open a terminal. Become superuser "root". Run:
> >
> >rpm -e rpmfusion-release-nonfree rpmfusion-release-free
> >
> > Then visit the web page quoted above and try to add the "free"
> > repository configuration again. There are multiple ways how to do it.
> > Choose the method you think you can handle easily.
> > If you suceed, continue with the "nonfree" repository config. Else,
> > be verbose in your reply to this list and tell what you've tried and
> > what has happened.
> >
> Doing as you suggested produced two error messages:
> 
> [root@box9 bobg]# rpm -e rpm fusion-release-non free rpm
> fusion-release-free
> error: package rpm fusion-release-non free is not installed
> error: package rpm fusion-release-free is not installed

Try again. Use cut'n'paste. Don't introduce type mistakes.
What you've run is not what I've suggested.
 
> The repo files are unchanged:
> 
> [root@box9 bobg]# ll /etc/yum.repos.d/rpm fusion*
> -rw-r--r--. 1 root root0 Jun  1 12:27 /etc/yum.repos.d/rpm
> fusion-free-rawhide.repo
> -rw-r--r--. 1 root root0 Jun  1 12:21 /etc/yum.repos.d/rpm
> fusion-free.repo
> -rw-r--r--. 1 root root0 Jun  1 12:29 /etc/yum.repos.d/rpm
> fusion-free-updates.repo
> -rw-r--r--. 1 root root0 Jun  1 12:28 /etc/yum.repos.d/rpm
> fusion-free-updates-testing.repo
> -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 1393 Feb 27 17:03 /etc/yum.repos.d/rpm
> fusion-non free-rawhide.repo
> -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 1247 Oct 28  2011 /etc/yum.repos.d/rpm
> fusion-non free.repo
> -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 1245 Oct 28  2011 /etc/yum.repos.d/rpm
> fusion-non free-updates.repo
> -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 1305 May 17  2009 /etc/yum.repos.d/rpm
> fusion-non free-updates-testing.repo
> 
> Running the command string from Rpmfusion Configuration:
> 
> 
> [root@box9 bobg]# yum localinstall --nogpgcheck
> 
> http://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/rpmfusion-free-release-stable.noarch.rpm
> 
> http://download1.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/rpmfusion-nonfree-release-stable.noarch.rpm
> Loaded plugins: langpacks, presto, refresh-packagekit
> Cannot open:
> 
> http://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/rpmfusion-free-release-stable.noarch.rpm.
> Skipping.
> rpm fusion-non free-release-stable.no
> arch.rpm
> |  17 kB 00:00
> Examining /var/tmp/yum-root-WZkxfz/rpm fusion-non
> free-release-stable.no arch.rpm: rpm fusion-non free-release-15-5.no
> arch
> /var/tmp/yum-root-WZkxfz/rpm fusion-non free-release-stable.no
> arch.rpm: does not update installed package.
> Nothing to do
> 
> Whatever I did that caused this, I'm not sure, I followed several 
> procedures found while googling. I am a lousy typist and may have made 
> an error?
> 
> Bob
> 
> .
> 

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