Re: Bluetooth adapter not working on Fedora 32

2020-10-08 Thread George N. White III
On Thu, 8 Oct 2020 at 09:29, Matt McCutchen  wrote:

> On Thu, 2020-10-08 at 12:55 +0100, Paul Smith wrote:
> > Thanks, George. Yes, I only need bluetooth to connect audio from my
> > computer to my bluetooth headphones and bluetooth speakers.
> >
> > From what you said, I infer that bluetooth can be more general than
> > connecting only audio -- I did not know that.
>
> Indeed.  If you connect a "Bluetooth host controller" directly to your
> computer (usually by USB), then it will show up in the XFCE Bluetooth
> manager and you can configure everything from there: connect to
> specific devices, etc.  When you use a device like yours that has a
> Bluetooth host controller inside it but has only an audio connection to
> your computer, the UI is typically minimal (e.g., a single button) and
> you may not be able to do things like tell it to make a Bluetooth
> connection to a specific device.
>
> The most popular other uses for Bluetooth are:
> - Mouse and keyboard input
> - Networking.  It's pretty slow but can be useful if your Wi-Fi is
> taken for something else.  For example, I use a Bluetooth network to
> synchronize my personal information management applications between my
> phone and my computer via various HTTPS- and SSH-based protocols
> without relying on any external service.
>

Bluetooth LE (low energy. or BTLE) is used by a wide range of small
battery-powered
devices (heart-rate sensors, bicycle cadence, etc) and some more
specialized devices
such as indoor cycling machines.   There are temperature and moisture
sensors for
your garden.


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Re: Bluetooth adapter not working on Fedora 32

2020-10-08 Thread Paul Smith
Thanks, Matt, for your helpful explanation!

Paul


On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 1:29 PM Matt McCutchen  wrote:
>
> On Thu, 2020-10-08 at 12:55 +0100, Paul Smith wrote:
> > Thanks, George. Yes, I only need bluetooth to connect audio from my
> > computer to my bluetooth headphones and bluetooth speakers.
> >
> > From what you said, I infer that bluetooth can be more general than
> > connecting only audio -- I did not know that.
>
> Indeed.  If you connect a "Bluetooth host controller" directly to your
> computer (usually by USB), then it will show up in the XFCE Bluetooth
> manager and you can configure everything from there: connect to
> specific devices, etc.  When you use a device like yours that has a
> Bluetooth host controller inside it but has only an audio connection to
> your computer, the UI is typically minimal (e.g., a single button) and
> you may not be able to do things like tell it to make a Bluetooth
> connection to a specific device.
>
> The most popular other uses for Bluetooth are:
> - Mouse and keyboard input
> - Networking.  It's pretty slow but can be useful if your Wi-Fi is
> taken for something else.  For example, I use a Bluetooth network to
> synchronize my personal information management applications between my
> phone and my computer via various HTTPS- and SSH-based protocols
> without relying on any external service.
>
> Matt
>
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Re: Bluetooth adapter not working on Fedora 32

2020-10-08 Thread Matt McCutchen
On Thu, 2020-10-08 at 12:55 +0100, Paul Smith wrote:
> Thanks, George. Yes, I only need bluetooth to connect audio from my
> computer to my bluetooth headphones and bluetooth speakers.
> 
> From what you said, I infer that bluetooth can be more general than
> connecting only audio -- I did not know that.

Indeed.  If you connect a "Bluetooth host controller" directly to your
computer (usually by USB), then it will show up in the XFCE Bluetooth
manager and you can configure everything from there: connect to
specific devices, etc.  When you use a device like yours that has a
Bluetooth host controller inside it but has only an audio connection to
your computer, the UI is typically minimal (e.g., a single button) and
you may not be able to do things like tell it to make a Bluetooth
connection to a specific device.

The most popular other uses for Bluetooth are:
- Mouse and keyboard input
- Networking.  It's pretty slow but can be useful if your Wi-Fi is
taken for something else.  For example, I use a Bluetooth network to
synchronize my personal information management applications between my
phone and my computer via various HTTPS- and SSH-based protocols
without relying on any external service.

Matt

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Re: Bluetooth adapter not working on Fedora 32

2020-10-08 Thread Paul Smith
Thanks, George. Yes, I only need bluetooth to connect audio from my
computer to my bluetooth headphones and bluetooth speakers.

From what you said, I infer that bluetooth can be more general than
connecting only audio -- I did not know that.

Paul



On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 12:59 AM George N. White III  wrote:
>
> On Wed, 7 Oct 2020 at 14:32, Paul Smith  wrote:
>>
>> Thanks, Tom. I had already tried that, but the button simply does not
>> move! Please, see a screenshot:
>>
>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/14FrZIxJnEDqUyF8GmwiwUUt3p9SlcG5K/view?usp=sharing
>>
>> Paul
>
>
> That is an audio device, so only useful with bluetooth headphones and 
> speakers.  Is that what
> you wanted?
>
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Re: Bluetooth adapter not working on Fedora 32

2020-10-07 Thread George N. White III
On Wed, 7 Oct 2020 at 14:32, Paul Smith  wrote:

> Thanks, Tom. I had already tried that, but the button simply does not
> move! Please, see a screenshot:
>
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/14FrZIxJnEDqUyF8GmwiwUUt3p9SlcG5K/view?usp=sharing
>
> Paul
>

That is an audio device, so only useful with bluetooth headphones and
speakers.  Is that what
you wanted?

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Re: Bluetooth adapter not working on Fedora 32

2020-10-07 Thread Paul Smith
Thanks to all who tried to help me!

The device is the following:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2-in-1-5-0-Audio-USB-Bluetooth-Transceiver-Transmitter-Receiver-Adapter-Wireless/163945014115?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

The USB connection is not necessary -- it is only needed to connect
the audio cable. The USB cable appears to be to charge the device.
While the USB cable is connected, an annoying noise interferes on the
headset; without the USB cable connected, the sound is nice.

The XFCE bluetooth manager does not show any adapter, even when the
bluetooth adapter is connected and transmitting the audio of the
computer to a wireless headphones!

Paul

On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 8:53 PM Samuel Sieb  wrote:
>
> On 10/7/20 10:08 AM, Paul Smith wrote:
> > I have just bought a bluetooth adapter (receiver and trasnmitter) to
> > work on Fedora 32.
> >
> > I have switched the adapter to transmitter mode, and I have plugged it
> > into a USB entry of my computer. When I go to the XFCE bluetooth
> > manager, it says
>
> Is it a bluetooth audio converter with USB power?  Your description
> doesn't make sense for a real bluetooth dongle.  Do you have a link to
> the product or a specific model name?
>
> > $ lsusb
> > Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
> > Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
> > Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
> > Bus 001 Device 005: ID 04ca:707a Lite-On Technology Corp. EasyCamera 5M
> > Bus 001 Device 003: ID 413c:2107 Dell Computer Corp. KB212-B Quiet Key 
> > Keyboard
> > Bus 001 Device 002: ID 275d:0ba6  USB OPTICAL MOUSE
> > Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
>
> It definitely doesn't look like a USB device.
> You can try running "sudo journalctl -fa" in a terminal window while
> plugging it in and out to see if there are any messages just to be sure.
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Re: Bluetooth adapter not working on Fedora 32

2020-10-07 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 10/7/20 12:52 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 10/7/20 10:08 AM, Paul Smith wrote:

I have just bought a bluetooth adapter (receiver and trasnmitter) to
work on Fedora 32.

I have switched the adapter to transmitter mode, and I have plugged it
into a USB entry of my computer. When I go to the XFCE bluetooth
manager, it says


Is it a bluetooth audio converter with USB power?  Your description 
doesn't make sense for a real bluetooth dongle.  Do you have a link to 
the product or a specific model name?


Oops, again I replied before reading the other replies even though I had 
seen them there...


Anyway, it is what I was saying. It's only a bluetooth to audio in/out 
adaptor.  It's not USB, that plug is only to power it.  You didn't 
explain how you've wired it, so I don't know if your headphones are 
plugged into your computer or the device, but it's likely the wireless 
signal from the device causing audio interference.

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Re: Bluetooth adapter not working on Fedora 32

2020-10-07 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 10/7/20 10:08 AM, Paul Smith wrote:

I have just bought a bluetooth adapter (receiver and trasnmitter) to
work on Fedora 32.

I have switched the adapter to transmitter mode, and I have plugged it
into a USB entry of my computer. When I go to the XFCE bluetooth
manager, it says


Is it a bluetooth audio converter with USB power?  Your description 
doesn't make sense for a real bluetooth dongle.  Do you have a link to 
the product or a specific model name?



$ lsusb
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 001 Device 005: ID 04ca:707a Lite-On Technology Corp. EasyCamera 5M
Bus 001 Device 003: ID 413c:2107 Dell Computer Corp. KB212-B Quiet Key Keyboard
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 275d:0ba6  USB OPTICAL MOUSE
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub


It definitely doesn't look like a USB device.
You can try running "sudo journalctl -fa" in a terminal window while 
plugging it in and out to see if there are any messages just to be sure.

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Re: Bluetooth adapter not working on Fedora 32

2020-10-07 Thread Paul Smith
The noise on the headphones, just disappeared after having switched
off and on the bluetooth adapter.

Paul




On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 7:33 PM Paul Smith  wrote:
>
> Thanks, Matti. The adapter is the following:
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/2-in-1-5-0-Audio-USB-Bluetooth-Transceiver-Transmitter-Receiver-Adapter-Wireless/163945014115?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
>
> The mysterious thing is that the adapter is now working with my
> headphones, but I still get:
>
> --
> # systemctl status bluetooth
> ● bluetooth.service - Bluetooth service
>  Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/bluetooth.service;
> enabled; vendor preset: enabled)
>  Active: inactive (dead)
>Docs: man:bluetoothd(8)
>
> Oct 07 19:10:34 new-host systemd[1]: Condition check resulted in
> Bluetooth service being skipped.
> #
> --
>
> And when I mute the audio of my computer, I listen to a continuous
> noise on my headphones.
>
> Paul
>
> On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 7:14 PM Matti Pulkkinen  wrote:
> >
> > Paul Smith kirjoitti 7.10.2020 klo 20.08:
> > > Dear All,
> > >
> > > I have just bought a bluetooth adapter (receiver and trasnmitter) to
> > > work on Fedora 32.
> >
> > What is the make and model of the adapter? It could be that, much like
> > USB WLAN adapters, USB bluetooth adapters suffer from a common lack of
> > drivers in the kernel.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Terveisin / Regards,
> > Matti Pulkkinen
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Re: Bluetooth adapter not working on Fedora 32

2020-10-07 Thread Paul Smith
Thanks, Matti. The adapter is the following:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2-in-1-5-0-Audio-USB-Bluetooth-Transceiver-Transmitter-Receiver-Adapter-Wireless/163945014115?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

The mysterious thing is that the adapter is now working with my
headphones, but I still get:

--
# systemctl status bluetooth
● bluetooth.service - Bluetooth service
 Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/bluetooth.service;
enabled; vendor preset: enabled)
 Active: inactive (dead)
   Docs: man:bluetoothd(8)

Oct 07 19:10:34 new-host systemd[1]: Condition check resulted in
Bluetooth service being skipped.
#
--

And when I mute the audio of my computer, I listen to a continuous
noise on my headphones.

Paul

On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 7:14 PM Matti Pulkkinen  wrote:
>
> Paul Smith kirjoitti 7.10.2020 klo 20.08:
> > Dear All,
> >
> > I have just bought a bluetooth adapter (receiver and trasnmitter) to
> > work on Fedora 32.
>
> What is the make and model of the adapter? It could be that, much like
> USB WLAN adapters, USB bluetooth adapters suffer from a common lack of
> drivers in the kernel.
>
>
> --
> Terveisin / Regards,
> Matti Pulkkinen
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Re: Bluetooth adapter not working on Fedora 32

2020-10-07 Thread Matti Pulkkinen

Paul Smith kirjoitti 7.10.2020 klo 20.08:

Dear All,

I have just bought a bluetooth adapter (receiver and trasnmitter) to
work on Fedora 32.


What is the make and model of the adapter? It could be that, much like 
USB WLAN adapters, USB bluetooth adapters suffer from a common lack of 
drivers in the kernel.



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Matti Pulkkinen
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Re: Bluetooth adapter not working on Fedora 32

2020-10-07 Thread Paul Smith
Thanks, Tom. I had already tried that, but the button simply does not
move! Please, see a screenshot:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/14FrZIxJnEDqUyF8GmwiwUUt3p9SlcG5K/view?usp=sharing

Paul


On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 6:16 PM Tom Horsley  wrote:
>
> On Wed, 7 Oct 2020 18:08:27 +0100
> Paul Smith wrote:
>
> > Any help would be greatly appreciated!
>
> Is there a on/off button in the top corner on the screen where it says
> "no adapter found"?
>
> Try turning it on (even though you think that must be
> utterly pointless since it can't find the adapter :-).
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Re: Bluetooth adapter not working on Fedora 32

2020-10-07 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 7 Oct 2020 18:08:27 +0100
Paul Smith wrote:

> Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Is there a on/off button in the top corner on the screen where it says
"no adapter found"?

Try turning it on (even though you think that must be
utterly pointless since it can't find the adapter :-).
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