Re: copy and paste from mouse when window full of icons?

2019-08-22 Thread Gianluca Cecchi
On Mon, Aug 6, 2018 at 6:59 PM Ranbir  wrote:

> On Thu, 2018-08-02 at 09:06 +0200, Gianluca Cecchi wrote:
> > The problem is that I'm using stock F28 with default Gnome 3 and, as
> > it can be seen from my screenshot, there is no "PASTE" option in the
> > menu (what exposed clicking the 3 horizontal lines icon):
> > I only have:
> > - new folder and new tab buttons (+ "bookmark this location" button
> > that is grayed out)
> > - zoom in/out buttons
> > - undo and redo buttons that are grayed out
> > - Visible Columns...
> > - "show hidden files" checkbox
> > - Reload
>
>
> It's like that by design and has been that way for a while now. It's
> obvious why, too: they believe people using that application are using
> the icon view exclusively and is the reason why the "paste" will always
> work in that view.
>
> The current nautilus design for the list view is, in my opinion,
> broken. Why? If I can't paste in list view when the list is full, it's
> broken.
>
> I guess no one has bothered opening a bug entry for this (I certainly
> haven't).
>
> --
> Ranbir
>

I don't remember if I have opened a bug or not but right today I noticed
that in my latest Fedora 30 the feature is present.
Now when you copy/cut in a window and then go into another one you can
select the three lines button and from the menu select the icon indicated
by the arrow in the picture below to paste:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/11EDD0I3x6R025T5vQAtTQjn9Fy6yqIZy/view?usp=sharing

I thought it could be nice to notice that finally the implementation is
there...
Gianluca
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Re: copy and paste from mouse when window full of icons?

2018-08-06 Thread Ranbir
On Thu, 2018-08-02 at 09:06 +0200, Gianluca Cecchi wrote:
> The problem is that I'm using stock F28 with default Gnome 3 and, as
> it can be seen from my screenshot, there is no "PASTE" option in the
> menu (what exposed clicking the 3 horizontal lines icon):
> I only have:
> - new folder and new tab buttons (+ "bookmark this location" button
> that is grayed out)
> - zoom in/out buttons
> - undo and redo buttons that are grayed out
> - Visible Columns...
> - "show hidden files" checkbox
> - Reload


It's like that by design and has been that way for a while now. It's
obvious why, too: they believe people using that application are using
the icon view exclusively and is the reason why the "paste" will always
work in that view.

The current nautilus design for the list view is, in my opinion,
broken. Why? If I can't paste in list view when the list is full, it's
broken.

I guess no one has bothered opening a bug entry for this (I certainly
haven't).

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Ranbir 
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Re: copy and paste from mouse when window full of icons?

2018-08-02 Thread Gianluca Cecchi
On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 6:22 AM, Tim via users  wrote:
[snip]


>2. Laboriously go into the edit menu (at the top of the window,
>   presuming you're not using a desktop manager that has removed the
>   feature), and pick PASTE from the EDIT menu.
>
> It'd be nice if you could simply add CUT, COPY and PASTE icons into the
> file browser's toolbar, to quickly do those *very* common functions.
>

The problem is that I'm using stock F28 with default Gnome 3 and, as it can
be seen from my screenshot, there is no "PASTE" option in the menu (what
exposed clicking the 3 horizontal lines icon):
I only have:
- new folder and new tab buttons (+ "bookmark this location" button that is
grayed out)
- zoom in/out buttons
- undo and redo buttons that are grayed out
- Visible Columns...
- "show hidden files" checkbox
- Reload

So your hint and gnome documentation for which I provided the link seem not
accurate, or Fedora 28 has done some customization to the menu of "Files"
application

Gianluca
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Re: copy and paste from mouse when window full of icons?

2018-08-01 Thread Tim via users
Allegedly, on or about 1 August 2018, Gianluca Cecchi sent:
> while using "Files", the explorer application (version 3.28.1-stable) 
> in my Fedora 28 system, I have sometimes this kind of problem:
> - I normally use what should be "list view" with list of file names
> - if I have to paste a file/dir or group of copied files/dirs into a
> location where the page listed is full (no blank space inside it), it
> seems that I cannot paste: the right mouse click doesn't offer the
> paste option.

I'm annoyed by the same thing, it's a bad design.  The right-click menu
is context sensitive, so will only offer options applicable to what's
under the cursor, or already selected.  In this case, it'll be a menu
for working with one of the existing files or folders in that window.

Putting it simply, most of the so-called file managers on Linux are
really not in the class of being a file "manager."  They're just file
browsers with a few features.

Unless you use another file browser/manager, you've got two choices:

   1. Use keyboard shortcuts, and inconveniently swap between keyboard and
  mouse.
   2. Laboriously go into the edit menu (at the top of the window,
  presuming you're not using a desktop manager that has removed the
  feature), and pick PASTE from the EDIT menu.

It'd be nice if you could simply add CUT, COPY and PASTE icons into the
file browser's toolbar, to quickly do those *very* common functions.

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