Re: How to implement an organisational super pom ?

2006-06-23 Thread ben short

Here is a god example of a organisational super pom

http://maven.sateh.com/repository/org/apache/apache/2/

I have created one for my compnay that contains the following...



  internal-released
  scp://192.168.6.194/var/mvn/internal-released


  internal-snapshot
  scp://192.168.6.194/var/mvn/internal-snapshot



Although each developer has to have the login details, for the repos,
in thier settings.xml.

But so far its working fine.

Ben



On 6/22/06, Alexandre Poitras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

You confuse multi-modules project and super pom. A super pom doesn't
need to declare any modules. It is an independant project which has
its own version and distributed in your internal repository so that
any project can download whenever it needs it.

It should fix your problems.

On 6/20/06, Dhananjay Nene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Although the question wasn't addressed to me, I have run into some
> problems (hence the question in the first place) so just adding my 2c.
>
> If the super pom modeled as a top level module (ie. each project
> declares it as a parent), I get into a lot of issues when using the
> release plugin for the individuaal projects (You can just try it out to
> see what I mean).  One of the  issues  I also get into is that  the cvs
> repository needs to be structured  with the superpom module at the top
> and each of the projects as a sub directory in the cvs module
> representing the super pom which is not exactly the most convenient
> mechanism for conducting version control across multiple independent
> projects.
>
> Having said that since maven itself does use a super pom which does not
> suffer from these limitations hopefully there's some way to implement -
> but I couldn't figure it out so far.
>
> Dhananjay
>
> Roald Bankras wrote:
> > Nathan
> >
> > What kind of problems did you ran into? I'm currently working on a super 
pom for my company, but haven't seen any problems yet.
> >
> > Roald Bankras
> > Software Engineer
> > JTeam b.v.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Beyer,Nathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 12:29 AM
> > To: Maven Users List
> > Subject: RE: How to implement an organisational super pom ?
> >
> > >From my adventures in trying to do this, I've found that it's just not a
> > good idea in the current state of things. There are some things that can
> > be done with dependencyManagement and pluginManagement, but that only
> > goes so far.
> >
> > My suggestion is to standardize things via archetypes to generate POMs
> > in a certain fashion. For common "automated build" stuff use profile
> > settings for the build user.
> >
> > -Nathan
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Dhananjay Nene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 1:34 PM
> > To: Maven Users List
> > Subject: How to implement an organisational super pom ?
> >
> > I need to implement a common pom which can be inherited by a large
> > number of projects. However the common pom does not reflect a top level
> > module and does not have any sources or artifacts (since it is used only
> > for inheritance). My attempts so far lead me to believe that maven
> > requires me to assign a version to the common pom, and the release
> > management workflow tries to checkout a project corresponding to top
> > level pom which obviously fails in my case. How can I implement a common
> > pom (like the maven super pom) so that the common pom is used only for
> > inheritance, and each pom which refers to it (as a parent ??) is in fact
> > a top level application (and not a module/sub module) ?
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Re: How to implement an organisational super pom ?

2006-06-22 Thread Alexandre Poitras

You confuse multi-modules project and super pom. A super pom doesn't
need to declare any modules. It is an independant project which has
its own version and distributed in your internal repository so that
any project can download whenever it needs it.

It should fix your problems.

On 6/20/06, Dhananjay Nene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Although the question wasn't addressed to me, I have run into some
problems (hence the question in the first place) so just adding my 2c.

If the super pom modeled as a top level module (ie. each project
declares it as a parent), I get into a lot of issues when using the
release plugin for the individuaal projects (You can just try it out to
see what I mean).  One of the  issues  I also get into is that  the cvs
repository needs to be structured  with the superpom module at the top
and each of the projects as a sub directory in the cvs module
representing the super pom which is not exactly the most convenient
mechanism for conducting version control across multiple independent
projects.

Having said that since maven itself does use a super pom which does not
suffer from these limitations hopefully there's some way to implement -
but I couldn't figure it out so far.

Dhananjay

Roald Bankras wrote:
> Nathan
>
> What kind of problems did you ran into? I'm currently working on a super pom 
for my company, but haven't seen any problems yet.
>
> Roald Bankras
> Software Engineer
> JTeam b.v.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Beyer,Nathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 12:29 AM
> To: Maven Users List
> Subject: RE: How to implement an organisational super pom ?
>
> >From my adventures in trying to do this, I've found that it's just not a
> good idea in the current state of things. There are some things that can
> be done with dependencyManagement and pluginManagement, but that only
> goes so far.
>
> My suggestion is to standardize things via archetypes to generate POMs
> in a certain fashion. For common "automated build" stuff use profile
> settings for the build user.
>
> -Nathan
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Dhananjay Nene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 1:34 PM
> To: Maven Users List
> Subject: How to implement an organisational super pom ?
>
> I need to implement a common pom which can be inherited by a large
> number of projects. However the common pom does not reflect a top level
> module and does not have any sources or artifacts (since it is used only
> for inheritance). My attempts so far lead me to believe that maven
> requires me to assign a version to the common pom, and the release
> management workflow tries to checkout a project corresponding to top
> level pom which obviously fails in my case. How can I implement a common
> pom (like the maven super pom) so that the common pom is used only for
> inheritance, and each pom which refers to it (as a parent ??) is in fact
> a top level application (and not a module/sub module) ?
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Re: How to implement an organisational super pom ?

2006-06-22 Thread Dennis Lundberg

Dhananjay Nene wrote:
Although the question wasn't addressed to me, I have run into some 
problems (hence the question in the first place) so just adding my 2c.


If the super pom modeled as a top level module (ie. each project 
declares it as a parent), I get into a lot of issues when using the 
release plugin for the individuaal projects (You can just try it out to 
see what I mean).  One of the  issues  I also get into is that  the cvs 
repository needs to be structured  with the superpom module at the top 
and each of the projects as a sub directory in the cvs module 
representing the super pom which is not exactly the most convenient 
mechanism for conducting version control across multiple independent 
projects.


You don't need to have your super-pom in cvs. Use a versioning number 
scheme for the pom like this 1, 2, 3.. i.e. incremental numbers. Install 
each new version of the pom into your company Maven repository. That way 
you have copies of the released versions of your super-pom in your Maven 
repo.




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RE: How to implement an organisational super pom ?

2006-06-20 Thread Artamonov, Juri
What factors/bases should be taken into account when thinking to create
super POM or not? Create parent -> child model or not, especially if the
components also used in another different projects?


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Sanchez
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 3:18 PM
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You can override any configuraion you want, version or anything. We use
parent poms all the time with no problems at all

On 6/20/06, Dhananjay Nene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Although the question wasn't addressed to me, I have run into some 
> problems (hence the question in the first place) so just adding my 2c.
>
> If the super pom modeled as a top level module (ie. each project 
> declares it as a parent), I get into a lot of issues when using the 
> release plugin for the individuaal projects (You can just try it out 
> to see what I mean).  One of the  issues  I also get into is that  the

> cvs repository needs to be structured  with the superpom module at the

> top and each of the projects as a sub directory in the cvs module 
> representing the super pom which is not exactly the most convenient 
> mechanism for conducting version control across multiple independent 
> projects.
>
> Having said that since maven itself does use a super pom which does 
> not suffer from these limitations hopefully there's some way to 
> implement - but I couldn't figure it out so far.
>
> Dhananjay
>
> Roald Bankras wrote:
> > Nathan
> >
> > What kind of problems did you ran into? I'm currently working on a 
> > super pom for my company, but haven't seen any problems yet.
> >
> > Roald Bankras
> > Software Engineer
> > JTeam b.v.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Beyer,Nathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 12:29 AM
> > To: Maven Users List
> > Subject: RE: How to implement an organisational super pom ?
> >
> > >From my adventures in trying to do this, I've found that it's just 
> > >not a
> > good idea in the current state of things. There are some things that

> > can be done with dependencyManagement and pluginManagement, but that

> > only goes so far.
> >
> > My suggestion is to standardize things via archetypes to generate 
> > POMs in a certain fashion. For common "automated build" stuff use 
> > profile settings for the build user.
> >
> > -Nathan
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Dhananjay Nene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 1:34 PM
> > To: Maven Users List
> > Subject: How to implement an organisational super pom ?
> >
> > I need to implement a common pom which can be inherited by a large 
> > number of projects. However the common pom does not reflect a top 
> > level module and does not have any sources or artifacts (since it is

> > used only for inheritance). My attempts so far lead me to believe 
> > that maven requires me to assign a version to the common pom, and 
> > the release management workflow tries to checkout a project 
> > corresponding to top level pom which obviously fails in my case. How

> > can I implement a common pom (like the maven super pom) so that the 
> > common pom is used only for inheritance, and each pom which refers 
> > to it (as a parent ??) is in fact a top level application (and not a

> > module/sub module) ?
> >
> > 
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Re: How to implement an organisational super pom ?

2006-06-20 Thread Carlos Sanchez

You can override any configuraion you want, version or anything. We
use parent poms all the time with no problems at all

On 6/20/06, Dhananjay Nene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Although the question wasn't addressed to me, I have run into some
problems (hence the question in the first place) so just adding my 2c.

If the super pom modeled as a top level module (ie. each project
declares it as a parent), I get into a lot of issues when using the
release plugin for the individuaal projects (You can just try it out to
see what I mean).  One of the  issues  I also get into is that  the cvs
repository needs to be structured  with the superpom module at the top
and each of the projects as a sub directory in the cvs module
representing the super pom which is not exactly the most convenient
mechanism for conducting version control across multiple independent
projects.

Having said that since maven itself does use a super pom which does not
suffer from these limitations hopefully there's some way to implement -
but I couldn't figure it out so far.

Dhananjay

Roald Bankras wrote:
> Nathan
>
> What kind of problems did you ran into? I'm currently working on a super pom 
for my company, but haven't seen any problems yet.
>
> Roald Bankras
> Software Engineer
> JTeam b.v.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Beyer,Nathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 12:29 AM
> To: Maven Users List
> Subject: RE: How to implement an organisational super pom ?
>
> >From my adventures in trying to do this, I've found that it's just not a
> good idea in the current state of things. There are some things that can
> be done with dependencyManagement and pluginManagement, but that only
> goes so far.
>
> My suggestion is to standardize things via archetypes to generate POMs
> in a certain fashion. For common "automated build" stuff use profile
> settings for the build user.
>
> -Nathan
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Dhananjay Nene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 1:34 PM
> To: Maven Users List
> Subject: How to implement an organisational super pom ?
>
> I need to implement a common pom which can be inherited by a large
> number of projects. However the common pom does not reflect a top level
> module and does not have any sources or artifacts (since it is used only
> for inheritance). My attempts so far lead me to believe that maven
> requires me to assign a version to the common pom, and the release
> management workflow tries to checkout a project corresponding to top
> level pom which obviously fails in my case. How can I implement a common
> pom (like the maven super pom) so that the common pom is used only for
> inheritance, and each pom which refers to it (as a parent ??) is in fact
> a top level application (and not a module/sub module) ?
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RE: How to implement an organisational super pom ?

2006-06-20 Thread Roald Bankras
- The release plugin issue, sounds to me like a bug.
- For SCM I think that you can just override the scm configuration for the 
project.

Roald Bankras
Software Engineer
JTeam b.v.

-Original Message-
From: Dhananjay Nene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 10:40 AM
To: Maven Users List
Subject: Re: How to implement an organisational super pom ?

Although the question wasn't addressed to me, I have run into some 
problems (hence the question in the first place) so just adding my 2c.

If the super pom modeled as a top level module (ie. each project 
declares it as a parent), I get into a lot of issues when using the 
release plugin for the individuaal projects (You can just try it out to 
see what I mean).  One of the  issues  I also get into is that  the cvs 
repository needs to be structured  with the superpom module at the top 
and each of the projects as a sub directory in the cvs module 
representing the super pom which is not exactly the most convenient 
mechanism for conducting version control across multiple independent 
projects.

Having said that since maven itself does use a super pom which does not 
suffer from these limitations hopefully there's some way to implement - 
but I couldn't figure it out so far.

Dhananjay

Roald Bankras wrote:
> Nathan
>
> What kind of problems did you ran into? I'm currently working on a super pom 
> for my company, but haven't seen any problems yet.
>
> Roald Bankras
> Software Engineer
> JTeam b.v.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Beyer,Nathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 12:29 AM
> To: Maven Users List
> Subject: RE: How to implement an organisational super pom ?
>
> >From my adventures in trying to do this, I've found that it's just not a
> good idea in the current state of things. There are some things that can
> be done with dependencyManagement and pluginManagement, but that only
> goes so far.
>
> My suggestion is to standardize things via archetypes to generate POMs
> in a certain fashion. For common "automated build" stuff use profile
> settings for the build user. 
>
> -Nathan
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Dhananjay Nene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 1:34 PM
> To: Maven Users List
> Subject: How to implement an organisational super pom ?
>
> I need to implement a common pom which can be inherited by a large
> number of projects. However the common pom does not reflect a top level
> module and does not have any sources or artifacts (since it is used only
> for inheritance). My attempts so far lead me to believe that maven
> requires me to assign a version to the common pom, and the release
> management workflow tries to checkout a project corresponding to top
> level pom which obviously fails in my case. How can I implement a common
> pom (like the maven super pom) so that the common pom is used only for
> inheritance, and each pom which refers to it (as a parent ??) is in fact
> a top level application (and not a module/sub module) ?
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Re: How to implement an organisational super pom ?

2006-06-20 Thread Dhananjay Nene
Although the question wasn't addressed to me, I have run into some 
problems (hence the question in the first place) so just adding my 2c.


If the super pom modeled as a top level module (ie. each project 
declares it as a parent), I get into a lot of issues when using the 
release plugin for the individuaal projects (You can just try it out to 
see what I mean).  One of the  issues  I also get into is that  the cvs 
repository needs to be structured  with the superpom module at the top 
and each of the projects as a sub directory in the cvs module 
representing the super pom which is not exactly the most convenient 
mechanism for conducting version control across multiple independent 
projects.


Having said that since maven itself does use a super pom which does not 
suffer from these limitations hopefully there's some way to implement - 
but I couldn't figure it out so far.


Dhananjay

Roald Bankras wrote:

Nathan

What kind of problems did you ran into? I'm currently working on a super pom 
for my company, but haven't seen any problems yet.

Roald Bankras
Software Engineer
JTeam b.v.

-Original Message-
From: Beyer,Nathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 12:29 AM

To: Maven Users List
Subject: RE: How to implement an organisational super pom ?

>From my adventures in trying to do this, I've found that it's just not a
good idea in the current state of things. There are some things that can
be done with dependencyManagement and pluginManagement, but that only
goes so far.

My suggestion is to standardize things via archetypes to generate POMs
in a certain fashion. For common "automated build" stuff use profile
settings for the build user. 


-Nathan

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From: Dhananjay Nene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 1:34 PM

To: Maven Users List
Subject: How to implement an organisational super pom ?

I need to implement a common pom which can be inherited by a large
number of projects. However the common pom does not reflect a top level
module and does not have any sources or artifacts (since it is used only
for inheritance). My attempts so far lead me to believe that maven
requires me to assign a version to the common pom, and the release
management workflow tries to checkout a project corresponding to top
level pom which obviously fails in my case. How can I implement a common
pom (like the maven super pom) so that the common pom is used only for
inheritance, and each pom which refers to it (as a parent ??) is in fact
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RE: How to implement an organisational super pom ?

2006-06-19 Thread Roald Bankras
Nathan

What kind of problems did you ran into? I'm currently working on a super pom 
for my company, but haven't seen any problems yet.

Roald Bankras
Software Engineer
JTeam b.v.

-Original Message-
From: Beyer,Nathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 12:29 AM
To: Maven Users List
Subject: RE: How to implement an organisational super pom ?

>From my adventures in trying to do this, I've found that it's just not a
good idea in the current state of things. There are some things that can
be done with dependencyManagement and pluginManagement, but that only
goes so far.

My suggestion is to standardize things via archetypes to generate POMs
in a certain fashion. For common "automated build" stuff use profile
settings for the build user. 

-Nathan

-Original Message-
From: Dhananjay Nene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 1:34 PM
To: Maven Users List
Subject: How to implement an organisational super pom ?

I need to implement a common pom which can be inherited by a large
number of projects. However the common pom does not reflect a top level
module and does not have any sources or artifacts (since it is used only
for inheritance). My attempts so far lead me to believe that maven
requires me to assign a version to the common pom, and the release
management workflow tries to checkout a project corresponding to top
level pom which obviously fails in my case. How can I implement a common
pom (like the maven super pom) so that the common pom is used only for
inheritance, and each pom which refers to it (as a parent ??) is in fact
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RE: How to implement an organisational super pom ?

2006-06-19 Thread Beyer,Nathan
>From my adventures in trying to do this, I've found that it's just not a
good idea in the current state of things. There are some things that can
be done with dependencyManagement and pluginManagement, but that only
goes so far.

My suggestion is to standardize things via archetypes to generate POMs
in a certain fashion. For common "automated build" stuff use profile
settings for the build user. 

-Nathan

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From: Dhananjay Nene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 1:34 PM
To: Maven Users List
Subject: How to implement an organisational super pom ?

I need to implement a common pom which can be inherited by a large
number of projects. However the common pom does not reflect a top level
module and does not have any sources or artifacts (since it is used only
for inheritance). My attempts so far lead me to believe that maven
requires me to assign a version to the common pom, and the release
management workflow tries to checkout a project corresponding to top
level pom which obviously fails in my case. How can I implement a common
pom (like the maven super pom) so that the common pom is used only for
inheritance, and each pom which refers to it (as a parent ??) is in fact
a top level application (and not a module/sub module) ?

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