Re: How to configure Myfaces to log through logback ?

2012-08-23 Thread Stephen Connolly
http://stackoverflow.com/a/8015884/1589700

On 23 August 2012 14:34, Ertio Lew ertio...@gmail.com wrote:

 How do I configure Myfaces to log through logback implementation which rest
 of my application uses ? Currently I'm writing logs from all parts of my
 application except the messages by Myfaces in log files.
 --

 Using Myfaces 2.1.8 with Logback 1.0.6  [Glassfish 3.1 (Netbeans)]



Redirecting JUL Logging to other logging systems -- do we need to revisit our logging methodology?

2012-08-23 Thread Mike Kienenberger
Did you ever say something you really regretted?

I really regret saying that I strongly preferred JUL over SL4J on the
logging vote two years back[1].

[1] 
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/myfaces-dev/200906.mbox/%3c8f985b960906060447g30bb216ew62102b39be2a1...@mail.gmail.com%3E

I am currently using the SLF4JBridgeHandler for JUL during
development, and incurring the performance hits.

Barring other events, my plans are to default back to JUL logging for
production.

How are other people handling this?  I know at the time of the
discussion many people were switching to SL4J or still using log4j or
JCL, all of which would have the same performance issues.

Is it time to revisit our logging yet again, now that we know the
theoretical flexibility of JUL didn't live up to the practical reality
of using it?

slf4j and myfaces
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/myfaces-dev/200906.mbox/%3c2332f63b0906050818q6c74e615u2edc7cc2ec9f5...@mail.gmail.com%3E

[VOTE] jul instead of commons-logging
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/myfaces-dev/200906.mbox/%3c2332f63b0906091132y10cd0dadu4eb4a36dda6ae...@mail.gmail.com%3E

[VOTE] use of jul or commons logging on myfaces core 2.0
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/myfaces-dev/200910.mbox/%3cf6c92360909301905g104297a5m3bba5fb3d057...@mail.gmail.com%3E

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-2378


Re: Redirecting JUL Logging to other logging systems -- do we need to revisit our logging methodology?

2012-08-23 Thread Ertio Lew
Why doesn't Myfaces allows the flexibility to plug in your desired logging
SL4J implementation instead of restricting users to JUL/ Commons logging or
otherwise incurring the overheads of using bridgeHandlers etc ?!

On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 8:10 PM, Mike Kienenberger mkien...@gmail.comwrote:

 Did you ever say something you really regretted?

 I really regret saying that I strongly preferred JUL over SL4J on the
 logging vote two years back[1].

 [1]
 http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/myfaces-dev/200906.mbox/%3c8f985b960906060447g30bb216ew62102b39be2a1...@mail.gmail.com%3E

 I am currently using the SLF4JBridgeHandler for JUL during
 development, and incurring the performance hits.

 Barring other events, my plans are to default back to JUL logging for
 production.

 How are other people handling this?  I know at the time of the
 discussion many people were switching to SL4J or still using log4j or
 JCL, all of which would have the same performance issues.

 Is it time to revisit our logging yet again, now that we know the
 theoretical flexibility of JUL didn't live up to the practical reality
 of using it?

 slf4j and myfaces

 http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/myfaces-dev/200906.mbox/%3c2332f63b0906050818q6c74e615u2edc7cc2ec9f5...@mail.gmail.com%3E

 [VOTE] jul instead of commons-logging

 http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/myfaces-dev/200906.mbox/%3c2332f63b0906091132y10cd0dadu4eb4a36dda6ae...@mail.gmail.com%3E

 [VOTE] use of jul or commons logging on myfaces core 2.0

 http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/myfaces-dev/200910.mbox/%3cf6c92360909301905g104297a5m3bba5fb3d057...@mail.gmail.com%3E

 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-2378



Re: Redirecting JUL Logging to other logging systems -- do we need to revisit our logging methodology?

2012-08-23 Thread Mike Kienenberger
When we took the vote two years ago, I at least didn't really
understand the need.

Someone did bring up that point, but as a group we felt that
reinventing the wheel didn't make a lot of sense.   SL4J was new, and
I for one didn't understand the advantages of using it.

If we were to vote again today, I would be strongly in favor of using
SL4J as the logging mechanism.



On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Ertio Lew ertio...@gmail.com wrote:
 Why doesn't Myfaces allows the flexibility to plug in your desired logging
 SL4J implementation instead of restricting users to JUL/ Commons logging or
 otherwise incurring the overheads of using bridgeHandlers etc ?!

 On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 8:10 PM, Mike Kienenberger mkien...@gmail.comwrote:

 Did you ever say something you really regretted?

 I really regret saying that I strongly preferred JUL over SL4J on the
 logging vote two years back[1].

 [1]
 http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/myfaces-dev/200906.mbox/%3c8f985b960906060447g30bb216ew62102b39be2a1...@mail.gmail.com%3E

 I am currently using the SLF4JBridgeHandler for JUL during
 development, and incurring the performance hits.

 Barring other events, my plans are to default back to JUL logging for
 production.

 How are other people handling this?  I know at the time of the
 discussion many people were switching to SL4J or still using log4j or
 JCL, all of which would have the same performance issues.

 Is it time to revisit our logging yet again, now that we know the
 theoretical flexibility of JUL didn't live up to the practical reality
 of using it?

 slf4j and myfaces

 http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/myfaces-dev/200906.mbox/%3c2332f63b0906050818q6c74e615u2edc7cc2ec9f5...@mail.gmail.com%3E

 [VOTE] jul instead of commons-logging

 http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/myfaces-dev/200906.mbox/%3c2332f63b0906091132y10cd0dadu4eb4a36dda6ae...@mail.gmail.com%3E

 [VOTE] use of jul or commons logging on myfaces core 2.0

 http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/myfaces-dev/200910.mbox/%3cf6c92360909301905g104297a5m3bba5fb3d057...@mail.gmail.com%3E

 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-2378



Re: Redirecting JUL Logging to other logging systems -- do we need to revisit our logging methodology?

2012-08-23 Thread Mike Kienenberger
Well, that and at the time, it seemed like JUL would let us do
everything SL4J claimed to do.   But as I stated earlier, the
theoretical promises of JUL pluggability didn't live up to the real
use conditions.


On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Mike Kienenberger mkien...@gmail.com wrote:
 When we took the vote two years ago, I at least didn't really
 understand the need.

 Someone did bring up that point, but as a group we felt that
 reinventing the wheel didn't make a lot of sense.   SL4J was new, and
 I for one didn't understand the advantages of using it.

 If we were to vote again today, I would be strongly in favor of using
 SL4J as the logging mechanism.



 On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Ertio Lew ertio...@gmail.com wrote:
 Why doesn't Myfaces allows the flexibility to plug in your desired logging
 SL4J implementation instead of restricting users to JUL/ Commons logging or
 otherwise incurring the overheads of using bridgeHandlers etc ?!

 On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 8:10 PM, Mike Kienenberger mkien...@gmail.comwrote:

 Did you ever say something you really regretted?

 I really regret saying that I strongly preferred JUL over SL4J on the
 logging vote two years back[1].

 [1]
 http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/myfaces-dev/200906.mbox/%3c8f985b960906060447g30bb216ew62102b39be2a1...@mail.gmail.com%3E

 I am currently using the SLF4JBridgeHandler for JUL during
 development, and incurring the performance hits.

 Barring other events, my plans are to default back to JUL logging for
 production.

 How are other people handling this?  I know at the time of the
 discussion many people were switching to SL4J or still using log4j or
 JCL, all of which would have the same performance issues.

 Is it time to revisit our logging yet again, now that we know the
 theoretical flexibility of JUL didn't live up to the practical reality
 of using it?

 slf4j and myfaces

 http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/myfaces-dev/200906.mbox/%3c2332f63b0906050818q6c74e615u2edc7cc2ec9f5...@mail.gmail.com%3E

 [VOTE] jul instead of commons-logging

 http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/myfaces-dev/200906.mbox/%3c2332f63b0906091132y10cd0dadu4eb4a36dda6ae...@mail.gmail.com%3E

 [VOTE] use of jul or commons logging on myfaces core 2.0

 http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/myfaces-dev/200910.mbox/%3cf6c92360909301905g104297a5m3bba5fb3d057...@mail.gmail.com%3E

 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-2378



Re: Redirecting JUL Logging to other logging systems -- do we need to revisit our logging methodology?

2012-08-23 Thread Ertio Lew
Yes, things change with time  may be it didn't mattered too much that time
but today SL4J is the need as it is widely adopted now.

So +1 for SL4J !

On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 12:17 AM, Mike Kienenberger mkien...@gmail.comwrote:

 Well, that and at the time, it seemed like JUL would let us do
 everything SL4J claimed to do.   But as I stated earlier, the
 theoretical promises of JUL pluggability didn't live up to the real
 use conditions.


 On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Mike Kienenberger mkien...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  When we took the vote two years ago, I at least didn't really
  understand the need.
 
  Someone did bring up that point, but as a group we felt that
  reinventing the wheel didn't make a lot of sense.   SL4J was new, and
  I for one didn't understand the advantages of using it.
 
  If we were to vote again today, I would be strongly in favor of using
  SL4J as the logging mechanism.
 
 
 
  On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Ertio Lew ertio...@gmail.com wrote:
  Why doesn't Myfaces allows the flexibility to plug in your desired
 logging
  SL4J implementation instead of restricting users to JUL/ Commons
 logging or
  otherwise incurring the overheads of using bridgeHandlers etc ?!
 
  On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 8:10 PM, Mike Kienenberger mkien...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Did you ever say something you really regretted?
 
  I really regret saying that I strongly preferred JUL over SL4J on the
  logging vote two years back[1].
 
  [1]
 
 http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/myfaces-dev/200906.mbox/%3c8f985b960906060447g30bb216ew62102b39be2a1...@mail.gmail.com%3E
 
  I am currently using the SLF4JBridgeHandler for JUL during
  development, and incurring the performance hits.
 
  Barring other events, my plans are to default back to JUL logging for
  production.
 
  How are other people handling this?  I know at the time of the
  discussion many people were switching to SL4J or still using log4j or
  JCL, all of which would have the same performance issues.
 
  Is it time to revisit our logging yet again, now that we know the
  theoretical flexibility of JUL didn't live up to the practical reality
  of using it?
 
  slf4j and myfaces
 
 
 http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/myfaces-dev/200906.mbox/%3c2332f63b0906050818q6c74e615u2edc7cc2ec9f5...@mail.gmail.com%3E
 
  [VOTE] jul instead of commons-logging
 
 
 http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/myfaces-dev/200906.mbox/%3c2332f63b0906091132y10cd0dadu4eb4a36dda6ae...@mail.gmail.com%3E
 
  [VOTE] use of jul or commons logging on myfaces core 2.0
 
 
 http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/myfaces-dev/200910.mbox/%3cf6c92360909301905g104297a5m3bba5fb3d057...@mail.gmail.com%3E
 
  https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-2378