When we took the vote two years ago, I at least didn't really
understand the need.

Someone did bring up that point, but as a group we felt that
reinventing the wheel didn't make a lot of sense.   SL4J was new, and
I for one didn't understand the advantages of using it.

If we were to vote again today, I would be strongly in favor of using
SL4J as the logging mechanism.



On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Ertio Lew <ertio...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Why doesn't Myfaces allows the flexibility to plug in your desired logging
> SL4J implementation instead of restricting users to JUL/ Commons logging or
> otherwise incurring the overheads of using bridgeHandlers etc ?!
>
> On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 8:10 PM, Mike Kienenberger <mkien...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Did you ever say something you really regretted?
>>
>> I really regret saying that I strongly preferred JUL over SL4J on the
>> logging vote two years back[1].
>>
>> [1]
>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/myfaces-dev/200906.mbox/%3c8f985b960906060447g30bb216ew62102b39be2a1...@mail.gmail.com%3E
>>
>> I am currently using the SLF4JBridgeHandler for JUL during
>> development, and incurring the performance hits.
>>
>> Barring other events, my plans are to default back to JUL logging for
>> production.
>>
>> How are other people handling this?  I know at the time of the
>> discussion many people were switching to SL4J or still using log4j or
>> JCL, all of which would have the same performance issues.
>>
>> Is it time to revisit our logging yet again, now that we know the
>> theoretical flexibility of JUL didn't live up to the practical reality
>> of using it?
>>
>> slf4j and myfaces
>>
>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/myfaces-dev/200906.mbox/%3c2332f63b0906050818q6c74e615u2edc7cc2ec9f5...@mail.gmail.com%3E
>>
>> [VOTE] jul instead of commons-logging
>>
>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/myfaces-dev/200906.mbox/%3c2332f63b0906091132y10cd0dadu4eb4a36dda6ae...@mail.gmail.com%3E
>>
>> [VOTE] use of jul or commons logging on myfaces core 2.0
>>
>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/myfaces-dev/200910.mbox/%3cf6c92360909301905g104297a5m3bba5fb3d057...@mail.gmail.com%3E
>>
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES-2378
>>

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