Re: NeBeans, Snap, & phpUnit

2024-05-11 Thread Admin @ Goodun
Thanks for that Pieter,

Yes, that seems to be the route to go.
However, NetBeans' settings (not just the projects') still need to know
about it, it seems.
And the skeleton generator has long been abandoned but despite a 2021
fix claiming to have removed the requirement, it's still there.
The forked generator installs but fails to create a file/class, even
though it creates the directory structure for it.
And if I create the file manually, NetBeans still fails to find it when
I try to navigate to it.

What am I missing?

M

On Sat, 2024-05-11 at 10:10 +0200, Pieter van den Hombergh wrote:
> 
> maybe not overthinking.
> You should connect/ phpunit to the project, not to netbeans, for
> instance by using php compose which is a kind of package manager.
> 
> met vriendelijke groet
> Pieter van den Hombergh 
> 
> Op vr 10 mei 2024 16:11 schreef Admin @ Goodun
> :
> > Running NetBeans on Fedora under Snap seems ok.
> > However, I now want to add unit testing to my NetBeans project.
> > I have phpUnit installed in Fedora, but how do I link it to
> > NetBeans,
> > or am I just over-thinking this?
> > 
> > TIA
> > Mark
> > 
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NeBeans, Snap, & phpUnit

2024-05-10 Thread Admin @ Goodun
Running NetBeans on Fedora under Snap seems ok.
However, I now want to add unit testing to my NetBeans project.
I have phpUnit installed in Fedora, but how do I link it to NetBeans,
or am I just over-thinking this?

TIA
Mark

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Re: Variable display in debugger

2024-01-11 Thread Admin @ Goodun
On Thu, 2024-01-11 at 14:28 +, John Barrow wrote:
> You deduced correctly that it would mean introducing a debug line to
> publish the Object at that time if you are debugging within one of
> their methods, although if you are doing that you must have a
> compilable source. 

Yes, I've got the source (it's PHP), it's just I'm looking deep inside
the (other) code, so it's fiddly (& a nuisance) to mess around with.

I was hoping for something like what's in IntelliJ/Android Studio where
there's a "View As" option for values in the debugger, and you can even
create your own function to render values.  Oh well, never mind.

Thanks for your discussion on this.

Mark

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Re: Variable display in debugger

2024-01-11 Thread Admin @ Goodun
Hi John,

On Tue, 2024-01-09 at 17:00 +, John wrote:
> Hi,
>  
> Firstly, I believe the etiquette is to always use “Reply All” so that
> the rest of the group is aware of the thread progression.

Sorry about that.  My mail agent (Evolution) didn't recognise your
message as coming from a mail list because you used Reply-To-All rather
than Reply-To-List.


> Having said that, I just remembered that I also publish instances of
> classes as JSON (via Googles Gson API, although I assume you could
> use Jackson as well) using the following code

Does this still requires me to change the source code?  It looks like
it to me though I might be missing something.

I'm debugging my code that runs as an extension to the CMS Joomla, a
huge codebase that I really can't change easily enough.

I'll be including your code in my own extensions, it looks great.

Mark

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Variable display in debugger

2024-01-09 Thread Admin @ Goodun
Can I get a view of an entire array while debugging php?

I have an array of arrays, which means I have to drill down into each
sub-array to actually see data.  This is a problem in my large array
(it has over 200 sub-arrays).

So, is there a way to display, or cause to be displayed, such an array
during execution?  It doesn't have to be *in* the debugger, anywhere I
can see it would be ok.

TIA
Mark

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Re: Scroll wheel resizing font

2023-09-13 Thread Admin @ Goodun
Ahah! So it is, thank you!

I looked for "wheel" there but it didn't find it.

Mark

> On Wed, 13 Sept 2023 at 14:46, Admin @ Goodun
>  wrote:
> > 
> > How do I turn this off?
> > 
> > I've had a look in all the settings I can find and nothing seems to
> > relate.
> 
> Options / keymap.  Do a search for "zoom".  It should be set to the
> mouse wheel with a particular modifier - different on macOS I think.
> Change the shortcut or remove it should fix the problem.
> 
> Neil


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Scroll wheel resizing font

2023-09-13 Thread Admin @ Goodun
How do I turn this off?

I've had a look in all the settings I can find and nothing seems to
relate.

TIA
Mark
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Re: "NetBeans 76 was last used 32 days ago"

2023-07-01 Thread Admin @ Goodun
Thank you one and all.  I can see what's going on now.

Great as it is, I can see the Snap version introduces some extra
challenges.

Thanks again
Mark

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"NetBeans 76 was last used 32 days ago"

2023-07-01 Thread Admin @ Goodun
This message has just appeared for me in NB 18.0.

This would be useful if I could find any other reference telling me
what "NetBeans 76" is.  If it's my current version then I know what to
do with the link offering to remove large amounts of files.  If it's
not my current I similarly know what to do.  But if I don't know what
it is, I don't.

Where does it tell me what "NetBeans 76" is?

M

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Wrong message on "pushing upstream"

2023-03-27 Thread Admin @ Goodun
Every time I push a (non master?) git branch to my remote repo (on
GitLab in this case) it tells me it's about to create a branch on the
remote, even though the branch exists on the remote, and is even listed
in the remote section of the repo browser.

Sounds like a bug to me, or have I missed something?

Mark

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Re: Git branch display

2023-03-26 Thread Admin @ Goodun
Ouch!  You're right (again 8-) ).

An attack of tunnel vision led me to only look at the packagedbuilds
directory, where the latest is 1.0.2, rather than the (more sensible)
"Releases" button.  Thank you.

On Sun, 2023-03-26 at 12:32 +0200, Thomas Kellerer wrote:
> It should have been enough to download the NBM for 1.0.5 directly:
> 
> https://github.com/Chris2011/nb-git-branch-in-statusbar/releases/download/1.0.5/show-branch-in-statusbar.nbm
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Re: Git branch display

2023-03-26 Thread Admin @ Goodun
Thanks to all who replied.

I have now installed the plugin that John & Thomas referred me to and
it shows my current git branch in the status bar, fabulous!

It was a little hard to install since it didn't show up in the plugin
dialog, ie it's no longer in any of the NB "portal" areas.

What I had to do (thanks John for the private email) was download the
code (I did it as a zip and then unpacked it) and then look at the
"Downloaded" tab of the plugin dialog and click "Add" which allowed me
to pick the packaged 1.0.2 version from the downloaded files.

This wasn't quite the end of the story since my setup then complained
about "pack200" ("pack"?  Not sure, but definitely "200").  Fortunately
it then presented me with the jdk directory which contained a file
named that and once that was selected the installation proceeded
smoothly.  Of course (!) I had to restart NB to activate the plugin,
even though NB didn't mention this as a requirement.

It's great that this still works, but it is nine years old (!!), which
is a bit worrying.  The original developer seems to have disappeared,
will no-one else clone this and get it into the Apache portals (I don't
know java very well and have too many other projects on the go 8-( )?

Mark

On Sat, 2023-03-25 at 20:14 +0100, Thomas Kellerer wrote:
> You need to download the nbm from the Github repository and install
> it manually
> 
> https://github.com/Chris2011/nb-git-branch-in-statusbar/releases
> 
> Admin @ Goodun schrieb am 25.03.2023 um 19:42:
> > Many thanks for that. Thomas and John' suggestion of
> > nb-git-branch-in-statusbar looks like it's even better than I was
> > asking for.
> > 
> > However, where/how can I load it?  It's not in the list of plugins
> > NB
> > shows me, even if I include the 8.2 portal (!), and the link on
> > Chris'
> > github page doesn't work.
> > 
> > Mark
> > 
> > On Sat, 2023-03-25 at 18:42 +0100, Thomas Kellerer wrote:
> > > Admin @ Goodun schrieb am 25.03.2023 um 18:13:
> > > > Is there a way of getting NetBeans to (always) display the git
> > > > branch I
> > > > currently am switched to?
> > > 
> > > I am using this plugin
> > > 
> > > https://github.com/Chris2011/nb-git-branch-in-statusbar
> > > 
> > > it's a bit old, but still works with NetBeans 17
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Re: Git branch display

2023-03-25 Thread Admin @ Goodun
Many thanks for that. Thomas and John' suggestion of
nb-git-branch-in-statusbar looks like it's even better than I was
asking for.  

However, where/how can I load it?  It's not in the list of plugins NB
shows me, even if I include the 8.2 portal (!), and the link on Chris'
github page doesn't work.

Mark

On Sat, 2023-03-25 at 18:42 +0100, Thomas Kellerer wrote:
> Admin @ Goodun schrieb am 25.03.2023 um 18:13:
> > Is there a way of getting NetBeans to (always) display the git
> > branch I
> > currently am switched to?
> 
> I am using this plugin
> 
> https://github.com/Chris2011/nb-git-branch-in-statusbar
> 
> it's a bit old, but still works with NetBeans 17
> 
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Git branch display

2023-03-25 Thread Admin @ Goodun
Is there a way of getting NetBeans to (always) display the git branch I
currently am switched to?

Mark
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Re: Namespace for a php project?

2023-03-07 Thread Admin @ Goodun
Unfortunately this seems to be a "session" solution.  Closing NB then
re-opening it loses the namespace.

Why was this removed from the project property dialogue?


On Mon, 2023-03-06 at 12:03 +0000, Admin @ Goodun wrote:
> Now, having once manually entered a namespace in a new file creation
> dialogue it's always presenting one there, correctly altered.
> 
> That seems to be the solution.

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Re: Namespace for a php project?

2023-03-06 Thread Admin @ Goodun
OOo, that's where all that text comes from!  Something new every
day, eh?

While I think that would work, that's a hard coded solution.  The
existing template(s) seem to be picking up a variable that holds a list
of namespaces, or is it just a string?  

Now, having once manually entered a namespace in a new file creation
dialogue it's always presenting one there, correctly altered.

That seems to be the solution.

On Mon, 2023-03-06 at 11:09 +0100, John Lavelle wrote:
> Create a Template (Tools>Templates) and put it in there.
> 
> Best regards,
> John

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Namespace for a php project?

2023-03-06 Thread Admin @ Goodun
Can I set default namespace(s) for a php project?

A search suggests that it should be on the project properties "sources"
page, but it isn't (NB 17).  Has it been moved?  I haven't been able to
find it.

Has it been removed?  If so, why.  And if so, why is there still a, now
redundant, dropdown for it in the new php class dialogue?

TIA
Mark

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Access previous version

2022-09-09 Thread Admin @ Goodun
NB 15 has installed itself automatically.  How do I access NB14?

Why do I ask?  14 opened a new browser window when debugging a php
website, 15 doesn't and I don't seem to be able to make it do so.  That
instance of FF seems to have different settings for a plugin (Rested).
I'm trying to retrieve those settings.

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Re: NetBeans 8 app flickering/uncontrolled window movement on Alienware Dell - anyone seen this ?

2021-05-07 Thread Admin @ Goodun
On Fri, 2021-05-07 at 07:26 -0500, bruehlicke wrote:
> Bummer, still happens with jdk 11. It is the entire outer window
> which jumps and leaves droppings/copies of itself when fx moving
> mouse accross  I start wondering if there is a problem with the
> laptop. On the other hand it only happens with the NetBeans RPC app.
> Regardless if using Nvidea card or Intels integrated.

I'm getting something that seems to me similar, but with the new
Android Studio release (4.2.0) under Linux (Fedora 33).

What I'm seeing is that the entire outer (IDE) window flashes with all
mouseover actions. More than that, popup boxes of many (but not all)
types take up the entire outer window even though they only have the
normal, very small, content.

I'm using OpenJDK 11. I tried changing my JAVA_HOME setting to
explicitly reference the JDK rather than the generic link, but both
suffer from the same thing.

D'you think it's related? If it is, does it help? :-(

Mark

> Will try jdk17 if possible  mysterious 
> 
> On Thu, May 6, 2021, 14:01 bruehlicke  wrote:
> > Laszlo,, you are a hero !   I downloaded the OpenJDK 11 and just
> > copied the entire folder into my NetBeans 8.2 RCP app (build on
> > jdk8) and renamed the jkd11 folder to "jre" - Voila !  I just
> > love Java, it surprises me even again and again even after
> > coding for 2 decades with it. Of course, lots of testing needs to
> > be done but so far it looks like a work-around. We will have the
> > app running all day tomorrow on jdk11 to see if it "creeps back to
> > the flicker madness".  
> > 
> > Of course the biggest thanks is to all the people involved making
> > jdk11 (and later versions) and keeping it compatible and allowing
> > normal mortals like me to stay "clueless" -  as Jaroslav so nicely
> > puts it - about all the underlying plumbing which was changed.
> >  
> > Thanks !
> > Bernd
> > 
> > On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 10:35 AM bruehlicke 
> > wrote:
> > > Ahh, ok good point !  I will try running NetBeans with jdk 11
> > > (OpenJdk) on the Alienware and see how it goes. Thank you for
> > > your interest and suggestion. 
> > > 
> > > Bests
> > > Bernd
> > > 
> > > On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 10:24 AM Laszlo Kishalmi <
> > > laszlo.kisha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > I'd put my bet on the JDK AWT VRAM handling, so when I
> > > > suggested upgrade JDK, I meant upgrading it to a more recent
> > > > version than 1.8. I'd Try JDK 11 first, if that's still do not
> > > > work I'd test more recent ones...
> > > > On 5/6/21 8:02 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> > > >  
> > > > > Maybe Swing-specific, so try reproduce with another Swing app
> > > > > or create a new small Swing app yourself to reproduce the
> > > > > problem.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Gj
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Thu, 6 May 2021 at 16:55, bruehlicke
> > > > >  wrote:
> > > > >  
> > > > > > Thanx. Tried 1.8u202 (latest I can use without commercial
> > > > > > license) and it happened as well after a while. Hmm ...
> > > > > > currently only on Alienware laptop.  ... wicket. Anyhow
> > > > > > here running NetBeans on a Gaming laptop having trouble  ? 
> > > > > > It looks like a generic problem and hence just running
> > > > > > NetBeans should cause the same issue.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Anyhow, thank you for your suggestion
> > > > > > Bernd
> > > > > >  
> > > > > > On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 10:04 AM Laszlo Kishalmi <
> > > > > > laszlo.kisha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >  
> > > > > > > Try to upgrade your JDK
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > >  On 5/5/21 7:53 AM, bruehlicke wrote:
> > > > > > >  > We have a mature NetBeans 8.2 app with Java 1.8u112
> > > > > > > running on Win 10 
> > > > > > >  > without any problems. Now we got an Alienware and from
> > > > > > > time to time 
> > > > > > >  > the app becomes unusable as the different windows
> > > > > > > within
> > > > > > > the app are 
> > > > > > >  > moving randomly around when fx just moving the mouse.
> > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > do not want to 
> > > > > > >  > use the work "flickering" as that is not describing it
> > > > > > > correctly. It 
> > > > > > >  > is like the old mouse droppings we have seen, just on
> > > > > > > the entire 
> > > > > > >  > windows on the app.
> > > > > > >  >
> > > > > > >  > We have tried
> > > > > > >  > 1) To turn off the Nvidea card and use the interval
> > > > > > > Intel graphic 
> > > > > > >  > after which it worked for a while but came back
> > > > > > >  > 2) Vica versa turning off Intel  same result.
> > > > > > >  > 3) Reboot usually naked it work for a while
> > > > > > >  > 4) It happens on both internal and external monitors.
> > > > > > >  >
> > > > > > >  > I know, it sounds like Sci-Fi. Just wanted to see if
> > > > > > > anyone out there 
> > > > > > >  > has had a similar issue and maybe even found a work-
> > > > > > > around.
> > > > > > >  >
> > > > > > >  > Until now we have only seen this on Alienware
> > > > > > > machines.
> > > > > > > So it MIGHT be 
> > > > > > 

Re: NB doesn't want to update

2020-11-03 Thread Admin @ Goodun
> Thanks. I'd assumed that the 'check for updates' would look for new
> versions.  It looks like I have to get the latest (12.1 I think)
> version by hand.

There was a long and, at times, heated debate about this here just
recently.

Apparently TBTP like it the way it is. Personally I'm with you on this,
but...

Mark


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Re: Cannot find usages in NB 12.0.

2020-10-02 Thread Admin @ Goodun
Surely, to "cross thread" perhaps against normal practice, the argument
that was presented in the "12.1?" thread ("it's not an update, it's a
feature release") doesn't stand up when the suggestion for fixing a bug
in an LTS release ("extensively tested") is "can you reproduce it in
the non-LTS version" ?

Mark

On Thu, 2020-10-01 at 22:06 +1000, Owen Thomas wrote:
> I've just installed 12.1, and everything looks to be back in order so
> far. I'll let you all know if this changes.
> 
> On Thu, 1 Oct 2020 at 21:19, Owen Thomas 
> wrote:
> > Thanks for getting back to me Geertjan. I will try. 
> > 
> > On Thu, 1 Oct 2020 at 21:16, Geertjan Wielenga  > > wrote:
> > > Can you try to reproduce in 12.1?
> > > 
> > > Gj
> > > 
> > > On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 1:13 PM Owen Thomas <
> > > owen.paul.tho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > After deleting the cache directory as is the habit I have
> > > > picked up in my long-time NetBeans use, I cannot find usages on
> > > > anything. I do not see red or yellow lines when I expect to see
> > > > them.
> > > > 
> > > > I've gone back to 11, but would like to know if this is a known
> > > > problem, and if it is, what can be done to correct it.
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > 
> > > >   Owen.


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Re: 12.1 ?

2020-09-29 Thread Admin @ Goodun
Paul, I sort of agree, but I think the missing point in this NetBeans
strategy is there appears to be no built-in acknowledgement or access
to what is clearly an update. Surely "it's not an update it's a
feature" is not something most users would recognise. In between LTS
releases there usually are updates that are available, but not
automatically delivered, by having the equivalent of an "Update" button
that you can choose to press or not.

Going to the Apache website to download 12.1, it doesn't appear to
offer me a "12.1 incremental", just the new feature, no. It's the
entire package. How can this not be an update?

I see from the 12.0 page that feature releases are not as rigorously
tested as LTS releases. However, that doesn't mean they're not updates,
just that they're possibly "second class updates". I can see that may
not be to everyone's taste, so put a message. "Yes, there is an update
but you might not like it", or something a little more PC. But "There
is no update" is not true.

Mark

On Tue, 2020-09-29 at 10:06 -0400, Paul "TheSlimDude" Morris wrote:
> NetBeans, like many other open source projects follows the same
> pattern as Linux distributions like Ubuntu. The "stable" release is
> the LTS major version release. Those wishing to get in on new
> features can install the in between point releases But each ensuing
> point release supercedes the previous point release. Whereas the LTS
> release is fully supported until the next major or LTS release. Not
> everyone wants to be on the latest, greatest feature release. Some
> development shops prefer to have a stable platform to develop their
> own code with. As someone who has been stung by point release updates
> installed during development of a project I applaud the Apache
> NetBeans team for adopting this approach.
> 
> ---
> Cheers,
> 
> Slim
>  
> 
> 
> On 2020-09-29 09:56, Scott Palmer wrote:
> 
> > The distinction can be confusing.  A feature release IS a kind of
> > update.  I think a feature should be added to check for new
> > versions of NetBeans, not just plugins.  Perhaps such a check can
> > be automatic and the existence of new versions can be added to the
> > About box?
> >  
> > Scott
> > 
> > 
> > > On Sep 29, 2020, at 9:20 AM, Geertjan Wielenga <
> > > geert...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 12.1 is not an update, it is a feature release. Can you look at
> > > the netbeans.apache.org download pages for the difference between
> > > an LTS release and a feature release?
> > >  
> > > Gj
> > > 
> > > On Tue, 29 Sep 2020 at 15:18, Admin @ Goodun <
> > > ad...@goodunlimited.co.uk> wrote:
> > > > Hi Geertjan,
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Neil's message hadn't come through here when I replied to your
> > > > message.
> > > > 
> > > > Also, sorry for replying privately, my 1mistake.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Mark
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > On Tue, 2020-09-29 at 13:35 +0200, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Did you read what Neil told you? Can you read it again,
> > > > please?
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > Please use the mailing list, thanks.
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > Gj


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Re: 12.1 ?

2020-09-29 Thread Admin @ Goodun
Ok, thanks. Are you saying that the patch updates are not incremental
updates like 12.1 is?

Either way. it seems inconsistent. The update function reports that
there are no updates which in fact is not true. There *are* updates,
but (it seems) of a different type. The existence of different types of
updates isn't mentioned anywhere I've seen.

Joomla handles this by having different update channels for different
types of updates. Is this not a mechanism that Apache has?

Thanks again
Mark

On Tue, 2020-09-29 at 11:49 +0100, Neil C Smith wrote:
> 
> 
> On Tue, 29 Sep 2020, 09:36 Admin @ Goodun,  > wrote:
> > Apparently 12.1 is out, for nearly a month now, but my 12.0
> > installation doesn't tell me so, and when I use the search for
> > updates
> > function it tells me there are none.
> > 
> > Is this expected behaviour? 
> 
> Yes. 12.0 is an LTS and will not tell you there's a new release until
> the next LTS (currently scheduled to be 13.0 next spring). You will
> get some patch updates, which is what search for updates gives you.
> 
> There's a new release every 3 months. Either check for it, or
> subscribe to announce@ mailing list.
> 
> Best wishes, 
> 
> Neil


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12.1 ?

2020-09-29 Thread Admin @ Goodun
Apparently 12.1 is out, for nearly a month now, but my 12.0
installation doesn't tell me so, and when I use the search for updates
function it tells me there are none.


Is this expected behaviour? How am I to get 12.1?

I've looked for options that might explain this but don't see anything.


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