Paul, I sort of agree, but I think the missing point in this NetBeans strategy is there appears to be no built-in acknowledgement or access to what is clearly an update. Surely "it's not an update it's a feature" is not something most users would recognise. In between LTS releases there usually are updates that are available, but not automatically delivered, by having the equivalent of an "Update" button that you can choose to press or not.
Going to the Apache website to download 12.1, it doesn't appear to offer me a "12.1 incremental", just the new feature, no. It's the entire package. How can this not be an update? I see from the 12.0 page that feature releases are not as rigorously tested as LTS releases. However, that doesn't mean they're not updates, just that they're possibly "second class updates". I can see that may not be to everyone's taste, so put a message. "Yes, there is an update but you might not like it", or something a little more PC. But "There is no update" is not true. Mark On Tue, 2020-09-29 at 10:06 -0400, Paul "TheSlimDude" Morris wrote: > NetBeans, like many other open source projects follows the same > pattern as Linux distributions like Ubuntu. The "stable" release is > the LTS major version release. Those wishing to get in on new > features can install the in between point releases But each ensuing > point release supercedes the previous point release. Whereas the LTS > release is fully supported until the next major or LTS release. Not > everyone wants to be on the latest, greatest feature release. Some > development shops prefer to have a stable platform to develop their > own code with. As someone who has been stung by point release updates > installed during development of a project I applaud the Apache > NetBeans team for adopting this approach. > > --- > Cheers, > > Slim > > > > On 2020-09-29 09:56, Scott Palmer wrote: > > > The distinction can be confusing. A feature release IS a kind of > > update. I think a feature should be added to check for new > > versions of NetBeans, not just plugins. Perhaps such a check can > > be automatic and the existence of new versions can be added to the > > About box? > > > > Scott > > > > > > > On Sep 29, 2020, at 9:20 AM, Geertjan Wielenga < > > > geert...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > > > > > > 12.1 is not an update, it is a feature release. Can you look at > > > the netbeans.apache.org download pages for the difference between > > > an LTS release and a feature release? > > > > > > Gj > > > > > > On Tue, 29 Sep 2020 at 15:18, Admin @ Goodun < > > > ad...@goodunlimited.co.uk> wrote: > > > > Hi Geertjan, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Neil's message hadn't come through here when I replied to your > > > > message. > > > > > > > > Also, sorry for replying privately, my 1mistake. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 2020-09-29 at 13:35 +0200, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > > > > > > > > > Did you read what Neil told you? Can you read it again, > > > > please? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please use the mailing list, thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gj --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
