RE: PDF-to-ODT conversion

2013-12-02 Thread mt
Back to the original topic (but thanks for the useful info about 
download sites!) - just thought I'd mention that dragging or 
copying-and-pasting text from any (text) PDF and OpenOffice 
works pretty well on a Mac.


Not sure if this would apply to all platforms, but it's by far 
the easiest way I have found on my Mac. I might have to reapply 
some formatting for complex files, but all the text gets copied 
over, and most of the styles as well.


Cheers,

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Re: PDF-to-ODT conversion

2013-12-02 Thread Rima Schulkind
Thankyouthyankyouthankyou. It worked like a dream. I'm so used to my old Mac 
word processing apps not allowing copy-and-paste of pdf's that I never even 
tried with my new one. 


On Dec 2, 2013, at 5:07 PM, mt wrote:

 Back to the original topic (but thanks for the useful info about download 
 sites!) - just thought I'd mention that dragging or copying-and-pasting 
 text from any (text) PDF and OpenOffice works pretty well on a Mac.
 
 Not sure if this would apply to all platforms, but it's by far the easiest 
 way I have found on my Mac. I might have to reapply some formatting for 
 complex files, but all the text gets copied over, and most of the styles as 
 well.
 
 Cheers,
 
 marina
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Re: PDF-to-ODT conversion

2013-12-01 Thread Allen Schaaf, CISSP
Alas, CNET is a nest of vipers. Sorry, I should have mentioned 
the best source: http://www.freeocr.net/.


NEVER TRUST CNET!

Best,

Allen

On 11/30/2013 8:25 AM, Rory O'Farrell wrote:

On Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:09:09 -0500
Maurice Howe maur...@stny.rr.com wrote:


BEWARE !!!
The download of FreeOCR from CNET brought along a huge mess of excess
baggage.  After 3 attempts at System Restore, running Malware Bytes, Spybot,
RegCure and Stinger got rid of (what I hope is all of) 243 infections.
There may be a clean version out there but this exercise scared me off.

I'll try Dave's Google Drive method.  Thanks to all, but I thought this
warning was in order.  Hope it saves others a lot of grief.

Cheers,
Maurice Howe
I'm retired. Go around me.


The comments on the cnet freeocr page indicate such infestation.

You could try Calibre, downloading only from
http://calibre-ebook.com/
which will convert a PDF into text. Anything I have ever downloaded from that 
calibre site has been clean.

As a general rule I suggest only to download from an application's own site.



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RE: PDF-to-ODT conversion

2013-12-01 Thread Think
I downloaded from freeocr.net and also got other software with the OCR
program. It was an accept/decline statement and the first one got past me,
but I saw the others and declined. So when my daughter went to use my
browser to find a recipe for me she said there's a weird browser on your
computer. This happened with dealslider a week ago when I downloaded a free
font browser.

Unfortunately, this one issue is one of the biggest issues for people
utilizing free and open source software -- it is not verified to not have
malware, etc. attached to it.

I am in the process of specifying open source software for a non profit
company I am building, and am swimming the waters myself to see what
problems are inherent in open source. It seems that this one is huge and
relatively insurmountable unless someone wants to start a foundation to cull
the software for cleanliness.

Also, many people such as myself trust CNET. Obviously that trust is
misplaced. So if not CNET, then whom?

Brenda Hart Neihouse

-Original Message-
From: Allen Schaaf, CISSP [mailto:netsecur...@sound-by-design.com] 
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 4:09 AM
To: users@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Re: PDF-to-ODT conversion

Alas, CNET is a nest of vipers. Sorry, I should have mentioned 
the best source: http://www.freeocr.net/.

NEVER TRUST CNET!

Best,

Allen

On 11/30/2013 8:25 AM, Rory O'Farrell wrote:
 On Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:09:09 -0500
 Maurice Howe maur...@stny.rr.com wrote:

 BEWARE !!!
 The download of FreeOCR from CNET brought along a huge mess of excess
 baggage.  After 3 attempts at System Restore, running Malware Bytes,
Spybot,
 RegCure and Stinger got rid of (what I hope is all of) 243 infections.
 There may be a clean version out there but this exercise scared me off.

 I'll try Dave's Google Drive method.  Thanks to all, but I thought this
 warning was in order.  Hope it saves others a lot of grief.

 Cheers,
 Maurice Howe
 I'm retired. Go around me.

 The comments on the cnet freeocr page indicate such infestation.

 You could try Calibre, downloading only from
 http://calibre-ebook.com/
 which will convert a PDF into text. Anything I have ever downloaded from
that calibre site has been clean.

 As a general rule I suggest only to download from an application's own
site.


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Re: PDF-to-ODT conversion

2013-12-01 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Sun, 1 Dec 2013 11:57:34 -0500
Think thinkta...@gmail.com wrote:

 I downloaded from freeocr.net and also got other software with the OCR
 program. It was an accept/decline statement and the first one got past me,
 but I saw the others and declined. So when my daughter went to use my
 browser to find a recipe for me she said there's a weird browser on your
 computer. This happened with dealslider a week ago when I downloaded a free
 font browser.
 
 Unfortunately, this one issue is one of the biggest issues for people
 utilizing free and open source software -- it is not verified to not have
 malware, etc. attached to it.
 
 I am in the process of specifying open source software for a non profit
 company I am building, and am swimming the waters myself to see what
 problems are inherent in open source. It seems that this one is huge and
 relatively insurmountable unless someone wants to start a foundation to cull
 the software for cleanliness.
 
 Also, many people such as myself trust CNET. Obviously that trust is
 misplaced. So if not CNET, then whom?

For openoffice we only recommend 
www.openoffice.org/download

For all other applications I always recommend using the main project site; if I 
have to recommend a particular site, it is always one I have used myself and 
know to be clean.

 Brenda Hart Neihouse
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Allen Schaaf, CISSP [mailto:netsecur...@sound-by-design.com] 
 Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 4:09 AM
 To: users@openoffice.apache.org
 Subject: Re: PDF-to-ODT conversion
 
 Alas, CNET is a nest of vipers. Sorry, I should have mentioned 
 the best source: http://www.freeocr.net/.
 
 NEVER TRUST CNET!
 
 Best,
 
 Allen
 
 On 11/30/2013 8:25 AM, Rory O'Farrell wrote:
  On Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:09:09 -0500
  Maurice Howe maur...@stny.rr.com wrote:
 
  BEWARE !!!
  The download of FreeOCR from CNET brought along a huge mess of excess
  baggage.  After 3 attempts at System Restore, running Malware Bytes,
 Spybot,
  RegCure and Stinger got rid of (what I hope is all of) 243 infections.
  There may be a clean version out there but this exercise scared me off.
 
  I'll try Dave's Google Drive method.  Thanks to all, but I thought this
  warning was in order.  Hope it saves others a lot of grief.
 
  Cheers,
  Maurice Howe
  I'm retired. Go around me.
 
  The comments on the cnet freeocr page indicate such infestation.
 
  You could try Calibre, downloading only from
  http://calibre-ebook.com/
  which will convert a PDF into text. Anything I have ever downloaded from
 that calibre site has been clean.
 
  As a general rule I suggest only to download from an application's own
 site.
 
 
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RE: PDF-to-ODT conversion

2013-12-01 Thread Think
I like sourceforge. Thanks.

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From: Julian Thomas [mailto:j...@jt-mj.net] 
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 4:58 PM
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On 1 Dec 2013, at 11:57, Think thinkta...@gmail.com wrote:

 Also, many people such as myself trust CNET. Obviously that trust is
 misplaced. So if not CNET, then whom?

I trust sourceforge.net

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RE: PDF-to-ODT conversion

2013-11-30 Thread Maurice Howe
BEWARE !!!
The download of FreeOCR from CNET brought along a huge mess of excess
baggage.  After 3 attempts at System Restore, running Malware Bytes, Spybot,
RegCure and Stinger got rid of (what I hope is all of) 243 infections.
There may be a clean version out there but this exercise scared me off.

I'll try Dave's Google Drive method.  Thanks to all, but I thought this
warning was in order.  Hope it saves others a lot of grief. 

Cheers,
Maurice Howe
I'm retired. Go around me.

 


-Original Message-
From: Dave.Mainwaring [mailto:davemainwar...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 29, 2013 5:11 PM
To: users@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Re: PDF-to-ODT conversion

I use Google drive for conversion.{Not the desktop version.} I copy or
upload the file directly to Google drive.
https://drive.google.com/

Then I select convert and down load, choose the type of file wanted, then
download.

{more button}
Convert and Download
Choose how you want to download each kind of file:
Change all formats to:   MS Office  -  Open Office  -  PDF




On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Allen Schaaf, CISSP 
netsecur...@sound-by-design.com wrote:

 There is another another possible solution that works for me when I 
 get a
 PDF: FreeOCR

 This free OCR software uses the Tesseract OCR engine. Tesseract OCR 
 code was developed at HP Labs between 1985 and 1995 and is currently 
 with Google. It is thought of as one of the most accurate open source 
 OCR engines available. Works very well for me both for PDFs and images.

 Allen

 On 11/29/2013 12:18 PM, Clarence Weaver wrote:

 Maurice,

 Another alternative to the last two options is to save the PDF as a 
 text file from the free Adobe Reader XI.

 Cheers,
 Clarence


 On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Maurice Howe maur...@stny.rr.com
 wrote:

  Thanks to Brian  Rory for their help.  They gave 4 answers: find 
 the
 original DOC/ODT/etc file, use the PDF-to-DRAW facility of AOO, scan 
 the PDF, or hammer on the keyboard.

 Thanks again!

 Maurice

 On Fri, 29 Nov 2013 09:15:15 -0500
 Maurice Howe maur...@stny.rr.com wrote:

  How do I convert a PDF to ODT (or DOC) so that I can edit it?

 Cheers,
 Maurice Howe



 
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Re: PDF-to-ODT conversion

2013-11-30 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:09:09 -0500
Maurice Howe maur...@stny.rr.com wrote:

 BEWARE !!!
 The download of FreeOCR from CNET brought along a huge mess of excess
 baggage.  After 3 attempts at System Restore, running Malware Bytes, Spybot,
 RegCure and Stinger got rid of (what I hope is all of) 243 infections.
 There may be a clean version out there but this exercise scared me off.
 
 I'll try Dave's Google Drive method.  Thanks to all, but I thought this
 warning was in order.  Hope it saves others a lot of grief. 
 
 Cheers,
 Maurice Howe
 I'm retired. Go around me.

The comments on the cnet freeocr page indicate such infestation. 

You could try Calibre, downloading only from 
http://calibre-ebook.com/
which will convert a PDF into text. Anything I have ever downloaded from that 
calibre site has been clean.

As a general rule I suggest only to download from an application's own site.

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RE: PDF-to-ODT conversion

2013-11-30 Thread Maurice Howe
Hmmm.  McAfee's Stinger32 anti-malware pgm said that it was the FreeOCR.exe
ITSELF that was the sort of all the grief.  I took Stinger's word for it,
and let Stinger delete the offending exe file.

Looks like my original inquire created quite a stir.  Sorry to have taken so
many of you from more important tasks.

Maurice Howe 

-Original Message-
From: Dave.Mainwaring [mailto:davemainwar...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2013 1:07 PM
To: users@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Re: PDF-to-ODT conversion

It took me hours to clean up the trash that came with the free OCR, the
program does work.


On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote:

 On Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:09:09 -0500
 Maurice Howe maur...@stny.rr.com wrote:

  BEWARE !!!
  The download of FreeOCR from CNET brought along a huge mess of 
  excess baggage.  After 3 attempts at System Restore, running Malware 
  Bytes,
 Spybot,
  RegCure and Stinger got rid of (what I hope is all of) 243 infections.
  There may be a clean version out there but this exercise scared me
off.
 
  I'll try Dave's Google Drive method.  Thanks to all, but I thought 
  this warning was in order.  Hope it saves others a lot of grief.
 
  Cheers,
  Maurice Howe
  I'm retired. Go around me.

 The comments on the cnet freeocr page indicate such infestation.

 You could try Calibre, downloading only from http://calibre-ebook.com/ 
 which will convert a PDF into text. Anything I have ever downloaded 
 from that calibre site has been clean.

 As a general rule I suggest only to download from an application's own 
 site.

 --
 Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie

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Re: PDF-to-ODT conversion

2013-11-29 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Fri, 29 Nov 2013 09:15:15 -0500
Maurice Howe maur...@stny.rr.com wrote:

 How do I convert a PDF to ODT (or DOC) so that I can edit it?
  
 Cheers,
 Maurice Howe

For minor edits OpenOffice's PDF import extension will allow it be edited in 
Draw. For major edits (such as relayout or rewrite of the text) you need to use 
an OCR utility to read the text in the PDF then import the text from the OCR 
into OpenOffice.



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Re: PDF-to-ODT conversion

2013-11-29 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Fri, 29 Nov 2013 14:50:39 +
Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote:

 On Fri, 29 Nov 2013 09:15:15 -0500
 Maurice Howe maur...@stny.rr.com wrote:
 
  How do I convert a PDF to ODT (or DOC) so that I can edit it?
   
  Cheers,
  Maurice Howe
 
 For minor edits OpenOffice's PDF import extension will allow it be edited in 
 Draw. For major edits (such as relayout or rewrite of the text) you need to 
 use an OCR utility to read the text in the PDF then import the text from the 
 OCR into OpenOffice.
 

I forgot to add that this is not a trivial task for a document of any length, 
particularly if you have never done it before. Don't start this task against a 
deadline.

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Re: PDF-to-ODT conversion

2013-11-29 Thread Julian Thomas

On 29 Nov 2013, at 13:40, Maurice Howe maur...@stny.rr.com wrote:

 How do I convert a PDF to ODT (or DOC) so that I can edit it?

There seem to be [at least] two types of PDF files.

One are essentially scanned images.

The others are formatted text files that can be converted to .doc or .txt by 
either Adobe [full pop; not the free adobe reader] or a number of websites that 
do free file conversions.  If you can copy and paste from the PDF, you are most 
ways there on your own.

There are web sites that purport to convert scanned images to text files, but 
they seem to be finicky on the scanned image; I've not had good luck with these.

hth - jt
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Re: PDF-to-ODT conversion

2013-11-29 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote:

 For major edits (such as relayout or rewrite of the text) you need to use
 an OCR utility to read the text in the PDF


Rory,

There is a fundamental misconception here. A PDF is NOT a bitmap. A PDF,
more often than not, contains the TEXT inside, not a picture (bitmap) of
the page requiring OCR to extact the text.

That is on PROPERLY CREATED PDF files. I've seen lots of people who don't
know what they're doing that just scan pages and build a PDF. In those
instances, YES, the PDF doesn't contain searchable text, just bitmaps
(images) of every page. But that's not a properly created PDF file to begin
with.

FC


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