Re: [users] Re: [OOo Draw] Importing custom shapes

2008-10-20 Thread Bart Friederichs
NoOp wrote:
 I'm not sure that I understand. If you have .sdg files, then you should
 also have a corresponding .thm and .sdv file - copy all three to the
 /share/gallery.
   
I did that in making a copy of existing sdg/thm/sdv files. The result is
two Themes with the same name and no shapes in them. Apparently the name
of the files is quite important.

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Re: [users] Error handling in OpenOffice BASIC

2008-10-20 Thread Bart Friederichs
Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote:

 Bart Friederichs wrote:
 Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote:
  
 Do you check in an error handler? I assume that you are NOT using
 something like on error resume next, and also, that you have not
 used a resume command explicitly.


 

 Here is my code:

 Sub Main

 [... snip..]

 On Error Goto ErrorHandler

 [.. snip, where an error might occur ..]

 Exit Sub

 ErrorHandler:
 MsgBox Error   Err   at processing sheet (line   Erl  ):  
 Error$

 End Sub
   
 Does not look like you reset the error... Do you know what error does
 occur? 
Yes. The Error$ is set correctly, as is the Erl.

Bart

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[users] 4 Questions

2008-10-20 Thread Tina Hoffman
Hello

Recently I was given the gift of a new old desktop
that has open office instead of microsoft word

So I noticed it doesn't have some of the features I usually 
use for my business requiring alot of photo cropping and transfer of documents 
to jpg

Crop?
How do I crop in this version of paint ? 
Once the desired portion of the image is selected,
I can't find  crop to cut off the excess 
I usually find in the Image tab

 
JPG ?
How do you save a document or image created in paint as a jpg?
I used to use publisher
But also used to see that as a option in the paint program File save as.. jpg 

 
JAVA ?
Is it compatible to download the java upgrades ?
I think I saw notice of some kind of missing java when trying to use movie 
maker 

Flash ?
The videoemails I'm not able to view also prompt to download latest version 
of  flash?
Woudl that be compatible with open office ?

Thank you for your time and for providing this free service
God Bless !!!
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Re: [users] OpenOffice.org 3.0.0 - PDF import extension

2008-10-20 Thread Steven P. Ulrick
On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 17:40:28 +0200
Johnny Rosenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Installed the new 3.0.0 a couple of minutes ago and I finally could
 try the PDF import extension, that needs OpenOffice.org 3. It's great
 now being able to import PDF files, but unfortunately my test file
 didn't look very good, so it's pretty useless for me, at least at the
 moment.
 
 Take a look and see for yourselves. The
 filehttp://www.konsumentverket.se/Documents/bilar/kopekontrakt_bilar.pdflooks
 right with Adobe Reader, Evince and probably with most of the PDF
 readers out there. Try to import it to OpenOffice.org and see the
 differences. Can anyone be satisfied with this?
 
 I'll file a bug report unless someone here tells me not to.
 
 J.R.

Hello Johnny
What does it look like if you follow these steps:
1. Open kopekontrakt_bilar.pdf
2.Make some arbitrary changes just to make sure that the pdf plugin has
done something.
3. Export the resulting Draw document to a PDF.
4. Open the resulting PDF in the PDF viewer of your choice.

I did exactly the above four steps.  I changed one word on the second
page.  Here is the resulting PDF:
http://www.afolkey2.net/~steve/kopekontrakt_bilar2.pdf

I agree that when your PDF (or any other that I have tried) is opened
up using this plugin, that it looks really bad.  In fact, Format |
Page | Page shows the following information:
Format: A4
Margins:
Left: 1.18
Right: 0.39
Top: 0.63
Bottom: 0.39

This looked really bad.  BUT, the resulting PDF seems to look perfect.
The margins are certainly nothing like Draw reported them to be.

Steven P. Ulrick

P.S.: To all of those that are having issues with this plugin, here is
some info about our system:
Operating System: Fedora Linux 9
OpenOffice.org Version: DEV300_m33 Build-1
PDF Import Extension: 0.3.2

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[users] Significant bug and system freeze

2008-10-20 Thread Gibbs Frazeur


Hello,

I'm running Open Office 3 on my Intel iMac with OSX 10.4.11.

My finder and system locks up and requires a reboot under the  
following circumstances:


I first open the Drawing program in Open Office.  Next, I go to  
Insert / Picture / From File.
At this point both the Open Office program and the finder locks up.   
I'm unable to perform

a force quit of Open Office and must restart the computer.

This bug happens each time I attempt to perform the above procedure  
in the Open Office

drawing program.

Sincerely,
Gibbs Frazeur

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Re: [users] 4 Questions

2008-10-20 Thread Dotan Cohen
2008/10/19 Tina Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hello

 Recently I was given the gift of a new old desktop
 that has open office instead of microsoft word

 So I noticed it doesn't have some of the features I usually
 use for my business requiring alot of photo cropping and transfer of 
 documents to jpg

 Crop?
 How do I crop in this version of paint ?
 Once the desired portion of the image is selected,
 I can't find  crop to cut off the excess
 I usually find in the Image tab


Paint is not an Open Office application. So, it has nothing to do with
Open Office.


 JPG ?
 How do you save a document or image created in paint as a jpg?
 I used to use publisher
 But also used to see that as a option in the paint program File save as.. 
 jpg


 JAVA ?
 Is it compatible to download the java upgrades ?
 I think I saw notice of some kind of missing java when trying to use movie 
 maker

 Flash ?
 The videoemails I'm not able to view also prompt to download latest version 
 of  flash?
 Woudl that be compatible with open office ?


None of these issues are Open Office related. Open Office is the suite
of programs that includes Writer, Calc, and Impress.

What you need is an MS Windows mailing list. Try searching Google for
it, or try the Microsoft website. All good operating systems have
public user's mailing lists.

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Re: [users] Significant bug and system freeze

2008-10-20 Thread Dotan Cohen
2008/10/18 Gibbs Frazeur [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hello,

 I'm running Open Office 3 on my Intel iMac with OSX 10.4.11.

 My finder and system locks up and requires a reboot under the following
 circumstances:

 I first open the Drawing program in Open Office.  Next, I go to Insert /
 Picture / From File.
 At this point both the Open Office program and the finder locks up.  I'm
 unable to perform
 a force quit of Open Office and must restart the computer.

 This bug happens each time I attempt to perform the above procedure in the
 Open Office
 drawing program.


Thanks, Gibbs. Please provide a link to the issue in the Open Office
Issue Tracker so that other Mac OS users could triage and fix the bug.
Thanks.

-- 
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Re: [users] Significant bug and system freeze

2008-10-20 Thread Guy Voets
2008/10/20 Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 2008/10/18 Gibbs Frazeur [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  Hello,
 
  I'm running Open Office 3 on my Intel iMac with OSX 10.4.11.
 
  My finder and system locks up and requires a reboot under the following
  circumstances:
 
  I first open the Drawing program in Open Office.  Next, I go to Insert /
  Picture / From File.
  At this point both the Open Office program and the finder locks up.  I'm
  unable to perform
  a force quit of Open Office and must restart the computer.
 
  This bug happens each time I attempt to perform the above procedure in
 the
  Open Office
  drawing program.
 

 Thanks, Gibbs. Please provide a link to the issue in the Open Office
 Issue Tracker so that other Mac OS users could triage and fix the bug.
 Thanks.

 --
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Hello,

I don't have the OOo 3.0 official release, because there isn't a Dutch
version yet.
I understand that the RC4 is identical to it (I have m9-build 9358).

I can't confirm the issue. The procedure described by OP works normally for
me on my iMac Intel with Tiger (10.4.11)

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and brazilian OOo Aqua 3.0.0 RC4 on an Intel MacBook Pro Leopard
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Re: [users] I cannot use OOo 3.0

2008-10-20 Thread Magicloud

It is a company box, company customed OS
I downloaded OOo3 from official website. And just rpm -i *.rpm.

Dotan Cohen wrote:

2008/10/20 Magicloud [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  

Hi,
  I used to use 2.4, with external jre. Everything is fine.
  Now I updated to 3.0. Well, with no matter external or internal jre, I met
the same problem:
  Wherever I hit a key, I mean input, the program hung. The only thing I can
do is to kill it.

  I am using java 1.6.0_07, linux 2.6.9-67 i686




How did you install OOo3? What distro are you using? That is a rather
old kernel and for various reasons you should consider upgrading. That
may or may not solve this issue, but it will most definitely provide
you with other benefits as well.

  



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Re: [users] Problems with bullets in indented text styles in openoffice.org 3.0 writer

2008-10-20 Thread Andis

Thank you lot!

Both workarounds are working and can be easily implemented in text style.

Sincerely,

Andis

Brian Barker wrote:

At 07:46 20/10/2008 +0300, Andis Noname wrote:
I used to have indented text styles (for example all 'Text body' has 
2 cm from the left border). Earlier (in 2.x versions) there was no 
problems, when I inserted bullets in those indented styles, but in 
3.0 version outlined text is not aligned from the left, but 
disordered (first line has larger indent than further lines) and some 
changes happens in paragraph styles. There are no problems with text 
styles, which aren't indented initially. I attached and example, but 
I don't know will it go through.


At the moment I solve this by coping outlined text from older 
documents created with 2.x and applying styles from the old fashion 
outlined text to the new one, but I hope that it can be solved 
somehow directly in 3.0 writer documents.  Has anybody solution for 
that?


I can see the problem.  Your header line has the margin at 2 cm in 
from the text boundary, as you would expect.  But in the bulleted 
paragraphs, the margins are left behind at the positions that you 
would expect without this indent.  (You you can see this from the 
positions of the triangular markers in the horizontal ruler.)  The 
first line of each bulleted item is allowed to land on a default tab 
stop instead of at a defined position.  Subsequent lines work correctly.


I can see solutions - or are they workarounds?
o  Go to right-click | Edit Paragraph Style... .
o  In your modified Text body paragraph style, as well as setting 
the 2-cm indent, go to the Tabs tab and set a Left tab at 2 cm.


Alternatively,
o  Go to Format | Bullets and Numbering... | Position (or right-click 
| Numbering/Bullets... | Position.
o  Increase the value for Numbering followed by Tab stop at from 
1.27cm to 3.27cm - to account for your extra 2-cm indent.


I'll leave others to explain (1) if there are better ways of doing 
this, and (2) whether this is a bug or a feature!


I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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Re: [users] I cannot use OOo 3.0

2008-10-20 Thread Dotan Cohen
2008/10/20 Magicloud [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 It is a company box, company customed OS
 I downloaded OOo3 from official website. And just rpm -i *.rpm.


Then ask your IT department. Let us know how that goes, though, as in
many companies they more hinder work than make it possible...

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Re: [users] I cannot use OOo 3.0

2008-10-20 Thread Dotan Cohen
2008/10/20 Magicloud [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hi,
   I used to use 2.4, with external jre. Everything is fine.
   Now I updated to 3.0. Well, with no matter external or internal jre, I met
 the same problem:
   Wherever I hit a key, I mean input, the program hung. The only thing I can
 do is to kill it.

   I am using java 1.6.0_07, linux 2.6.9-67 i686


How did you install OOo3? What distro are you using? That is a rather
old kernel and for various reasons you should consider upgrading. That
may or may not solve this issue, but it will most definitely provide
you with other benefits as well.

-- 
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Re: [users] 4 Questions

2008-10-20 Thread web at work


- Original Message - 
From: Jan Beranek [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: users@openoffice.org
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 5:03 AM
Subject: Re: [users] 4 Questions



Hello,



Crop?
How do I crop in this version of paint ?
Once the desired portion of the image is selected,
I can't find  crop to cut off the excess
I usually find in the Image tab



In my OOo (version 3.0, in writer) is it working.

snip




JAVA ?
Is it compatible to download the java upgrades ?
I think I saw notice of some kind of missing java when trying to use 
movie

maker



First - did you download OOo with JRE option?
If you did not then you will need to go to Sun's Java site
and download/install the latest Java.
http://www.java.com/en/download/index.jsp

In Writer go to
Tools -- Options -- Java
Make sure Use a Java Runtime Environment is checked.
Then if there is no Java version shown, then you press ADD
and check the Java version that you downloaded.  If you
see several versions of Java, check the latest version.



Flash ?
The videoemails I'm not able to view also prompt to download latest 
version

of  flash?


Here is a link to www.download.com  and the search for a Flash Player

http://www.download.com/1770-2001_4-0.html?query=Flash+playertag=srchsearchtype=downloads

If you use FireFox, you also can find Flash Players add-ons.

I do not know what Email client you are using, so I do not know if it
has the option to add a Flash Player as an add-on.  But you can always
look for one.

If you are getting the Flash from YouTube link, there is software that can 
download
it from YouTube and then convert it to a different version.  I went to 
www.download.com
and did a search and found YouTube Downloader.  If you have Vista (or XP), 
the
best video player is GOM Player.  It is one of the best free video players 
for

Vista.  It is simple to use.


I hope that helped a little.

--
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retired, but working (volunteering) hard for not-for-profit organizations
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[users] Bad Bug in 3.0 windoze

2008-10-20 Thread The Beaver
In Calc when I type in a number like a part number, it automatically 
destroys my entry and makes it a date.  I tried changing the format to 
number and it still ruins the spreadsheet by making the part number a 
date.  It seems to work correctly if I format the part number column as 
text, but if Calc automatically turns all numbers to a date, it will 
have no useful value as a program.  I never had this problem with 2.4

Floyd



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[users] OTL files - Out Text files?

2008-10-20 Thread web at work

Here is a question.
I have a Bible file in a OTL type of file.
It is an Outline Text type of document.

Using NoteTab Light, I get a frame that has the
Books listed and a frame with the Book's verses.
Click on the Book and it brings up its verses, not any
other part of the OTL file.

In OOo, I read in the OTL file and it becomes one
continuous page, no outlines.

Has anyone worked with an OTL file?
Is there a way to read in an Outlined Text document into 
OOo and get the correct formated sections?
At 58,307 lines in the file, it is much easier to show
it in the Outline format, then one continuous page.

it uses inline commands in the documents like;

= V4 Outline MultiLine NoSorting TabWidth=30

 

H=King James Bible



H=  Genesis


Personally, I have never see such a document.
I wonder if it is a format that began it the DOS days
or an early word processing DOS Text format.

I can send you directly the file and an image what it looks
like.  Or I can send you the files plus NoteTab Light.
(you can download NoteTab Light from www.downloads.com)

Windows NotePad does not show it.  Neither does:
EmEditor, OpenOffice.org Write, and MS Word.
Only NoteTab Light so far.  XP does not even associate
that file to NoteTab Light.  I had to make the association.
I always try to read unknow file formats in that text editor
as my default option.

I use OpenOffice.org for my Office stuff, KompoZer for my HTML stuff,
NoteTab Light for my plain text stuff like Cascading Style Sheets and 
JavaScripts for web sites or just plain TXT files types.

SO can anyone help?
Anyone used OTL files before?
Anyway to get OOo to have one frame show the Outline Headings
and another to show the text of that outlined section?

Tim L.  (web at work)
who lost all of my DOS books (and much more references) in my last move.



Re: [users] 4 Questions

2008-10-20 Thread Jan Beranek
Hello,


 Crop?
 How do I crop in this version of paint ?
 Once the desired portion of the image is selected,
 I can't find  crop to cut off the excess
 I usually find in the Image tab


In my OOo (version 3.0, in writer) is it working.
Select desired picture,  right-click, select Picture.../Crop

In Draw right click and select Crop Picture...


JPG ?
 How do you save a document or image created in paint as a jpg?
 I used to use publisher
 But also used to see that as a option in the paint program File save as..
 jpg


in Draw : File/Export



 JAVA ?
 Is it compatible to download the java upgrades ?
 I think I saw notice of some kind of missing java when trying to use movie
 maker

 Flash ?
 The videoemails I'm not able to view also prompt to download latest version
 of  flash?
 Woudl that be compatible with open office ?


- sorry I have no experience with flash...

btw. there is no paint program in OpenOffice - here is Draw.

Regards
Jan


Re: [users] Problems with bullets in indented text styles in openoffice.org 3.0 writer

2008-10-20 Thread Brian Barker

At 07:46 20/10/2008 +0300, Andis Noname wrote:
I used to have indented text styles (for example all 'Text body' has 
2 cm from the left border). Earlier (in 2.x versions) there was no 
problems, when I inserted bullets in those indented styles, but in 
3.0 version outlined text is not aligned from the left, but 
disordered (first line has larger indent than further lines) and 
some changes happens in paragraph styles. There are no problems with 
text styles, which aren't indented initially. I attached and 
example, but I don't know will it go through.


At the moment I solve this by coping outlined text from older 
documents created with 2.x and applying styles from the old fashion 
outlined text to the new one, but I hope that it can be solved 
somehow directly in 3.0 writer documents.  Has anybody solution for that?


I can see the problem.  Your header line has the margin at 2 cm in 
from the text boundary, as you would expect.  But in the bulleted 
paragraphs, the margins are left behind at the positions that you 
would expect without this indent.  (You you can see this from the 
positions of the triangular markers in the horizontal ruler.)  The 
first line of each bulleted item is allowed to land on a default tab 
stop instead of at a defined position.  Subsequent lines work correctly.


I can see solutions - or are they workarounds?
o  Go to right-click | Edit Paragraph Style... .
o  In your modified Text body paragraph style, as well as setting 
the 2-cm indent, go to the Tabs tab and set a Left tab at 2 cm.


Alternatively,
o  Go to Format | Bullets and Numbering... | Position (or right-click 
| Numbering/Bullets... | Position.
o  Increase the value for Numbering followed by Tab stop at from 
1.27cm to 3.27cm - to account for your extra 2-cm indent.


I'll leave others to explain (1) if there are better ways of doing 
this, and (2) whether this is a bug or a feature!


I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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Re: [users] OpenOffice.org 3.0.0 - PDF import extension

2008-10-20 Thread Johnny Rosenberg
2008/10/19 Steven P. Ulrick [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 17:40:28 +0200
 Johnny Rosenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Installed the new 3.0.0 a couple of minutes ago and I finally could
  try the PDF import extension, that needs OpenOffice.org 3. It's great
  now being able to import PDF files, but unfortunately my test file
  didn't look very good, so it's pretty useless for me, at least at the
  moment.
 
  Take a look and see for yourselves. The
  file
 http://www.konsumentverket.se/Documents/bilar/kopekontrakt_bilar.pdflooks
  right with Adobe Reader, Evince and probably with most of the PDF
  readers out there. Try to import it to OpenOffice.org and see the
  differences. Can anyone be satisfied with this?
 
  I'll file a bug report unless someone here tells me not to.
 
  J.R.

 Hello Johnny
 What does it look like if you follow these steps:
 1. Open kopekontrakt_bilar.pdf
 2.Make some arbitrary changes just to make sure that the pdf plugin has
 done something.
 3. Export the resulting Draw document to a PDF.
 4. Open the resulting PDF in the PDF viewer of your choice.

 I did exactly the above four steps.  I changed one word on the second
 page.  Here is the resulting PDF:
 http://www.afolkey2.net/~steve/kopekontrakt_bilar2.pdf

 I agree that when your PDF (or any other that I have tried) is opened
 up using this plugin, that it looks really bad.  In fact, Format |
 Page | Page shows the following information:
 Format: A4
 Margins:
Left: 1.18
Right: 0.39
Top: 0.63
Bottom: 0.39

 This looked really bad.  BUT, the resulting PDF seems to look perfect.
 The margins are certainly nothing like Draw reported them to be.

 Steven P. Ulrick

 P.S.: To all of those that are having issues with this plugin, here is
 some info about our system:
Operating System: Fedora Linux 9
OpenOffice.org Version: DEV300_m33 Build-1
PDF Import Extension: 0.3.2

I attached the resulting file now, after I exported it to PDF from Draw. It
doesn't look like yours, and none of them are exactly right.

*Your PDF:*

   - Check boxes are gone
   - I can't input things on the empty lines (it was possible with the
   original file)
   - Empty lines are positioned a bit too high, maybe 1 or 2 mm

*My PDF:*

   - Check boxes are replaced by an r with a different font
   - I can't input things on the empty lines
   - Some lines are too long (maybe a font issue)

So there is still no way to fill in a PDF form and save it properly… (I've
tried a few other applications, but no luck so far)

J.R.
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Re: [users] Bad Bug in 3.0 windoze

2008-10-20 Thread Brian Barker

At 08:01 20/10/2008 -0600, Floyd Beaver wrote:
In Calc when I type in a number like a part number, it automatically 
destroys my entry and makes it a date.  I tried changing the format 
to number and it still ruins the spreadsheet by making the part 
number a date.  It seems to work correctly if I format the part 
number column as text, but if Calc automatically turns all numbers 
to a date, it will have no useful value as a program.  I never had 
this problem with 2.4


It doesn't help to say a number like a part number: if your numbers 
are indeed plain numbers, Calc will not do what you describe, of 
course.  What format do your part numbers have?  If they include such 
things as points, hyphens, or slashes and your cell format is Number, 
then - depending on your locale - Calc may indeed interpret your 
values as dates and convert them appropriately.  This is documented, 
so it is not a bug: it is a feature!  (Oh, and Calc does not turn[] 
all numbers to a date.)


You say that you can achieve what you want by formatting the cells as 
text, and this is indeed what you should do.  Another way to achieve 
the same result is to precede the entered text with an apostrophe: 
this is a signal to Calc that you want your entry to appear as text 
and to disable automatic conversion to date format.  Note that, if 
you have custom quotes enabled under AutoCorrect you will need to 
disable this or else to type Ctrl+Z to undo this correction after 
typing the apostrophe.


It's also worth saying that anyway you really do need to ensure that 
your values are entered as text in situations like this.  Your part 
number is presumably a string of characters, many of which may be 
digits.  But you do not want this to be represented as a number (any 
more than a date), as this may be rounded and would be displayed to a 
chosen number of digits.  12.5 is presumably a different part 
number from 12.50, but they are the same number.  There is also a 
smallish limit to how many digits you can store in a number; this 
doesn't apply to strings of digits as text.  So your discovered 
solution - formatting the cells as text - is exactly the one you 
should be using.


(I suspect that millions of OpenOffice users out there may disagree 
that Calc will have no useful value as a program.)


I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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[users] Re: Formatting in Impress 3.0

2008-10-20 Thread NoOp
On 10/19/2008 03:49 AM, Stefan Gradmann wrote:
 Hi Adrian,
 thanks for this instant reaction!
 Hi Stefan

 To my embarrassment I now feel that there may be a serious bug still  
 present
 in the recently released version of OOo Impress, since I am loosing  
 parts of
 the formatting information of any presentation file saved in  
 impress 3.0:
 basically, numbering and bulleting formats either vanish completely  
 or get
 partially distorted.


 Are you saving the documents as odt or doc?
 I am saving in odt!

Perhaps you mean .odp

I'm not sure if this is related, but it appears that there was
considerable work done with bullets in Impress:

http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=90113
[Finish user interface changes for bullet core rework in OOo 3.0 for
impress/draw]

Finding a specific Impress issue isn't the easiest, but you can have a
look at:
http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/reports.cgi?state=Open+issuesshow_issues=oncontaining=Impresstype=x=Milestoney=Priority
and to see the issues by milestone you can click the Total number and
that will show you the issues. You can then search for 'bullet' etc.

Also, can you perhaps post a single page .odp that illustrates the
problem? That and a pdf of the same slide?



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[users] Re: Bad Bug in 3.0 windoze

2008-10-20 Thread Jim Allan

The Beaver wrote:
In Calc when I type in a number like a part number, it automatically 
destroys my entry and makes it a date.  I tried changing the format to 
number and it still ruins the spreadsheet by making the part number a 
date.  It seems to work correctly if I format the part number column as 
text, but if Calc automatically turns all numbers to a date, it will 
have no useful value as a program.  I never had this problem with 2.4

Floyd


I opened Calc version 3.0 in Windows XP.

I type some values like 20081018, 20071212, 20070530 into the cells of 
an empty spreadsheet. They did not change from numeric to date format. I 
typed the value 00081018 and it changed to 81018. All seems normal.


Try it yourself with a blank spreadsheet.

Check the formatting applied to the cells which are changing the numeric 
value to a date value with the formatting applied to cells in a blank sheet.


Jim Allan


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[users] Re: OpenOffice.org 3.0.0 - PDF import extension

2008-10-20 Thread NoOp
On 10/20/2008 08:18 AM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote:
 2008/10/19 Steven P. Ulrick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 17:40:28 +0200
 Johnny Rosenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Installed the new 3.0.0 a couple of minutes ago and I finally could
  try the PDF import extension, that needs OpenOffice.org 3. It's great
  now being able to import PDF files, but unfortunately my test file
  didn't look very good, so it's pretty useless for me, at least at the
  moment.
 
  Take a look and see for yourselves. The
  file
 http://www.konsumentverket.se/Documents/bilar/kopekontrakt_bilar.pdflooks
  right with Adobe Reader, Evince and probably with most of the PDF
  readers out there. Try to import it to OpenOffice.org and see the
  differences. Can anyone be satisfied with this?
 
  I'll file a bug report unless someone here tells me not to.
 
  J.R.

 Hello Johnny
 What does it look like if you follow these steps:
 1. Open kopekontrakt_bilar.pdf
 2.Make some arbitrary changes just to make sure that the pdf plugin has
 done something.
 3. Export the resulting Draw document to a PDF.
 4. Open the resulting PDF in the PDF viewer of your choice.

 I did exactly the above four steps.  I changed one word on the second
 page.  Here is the resulting PDF:
 http://www.afolkey2.net/~steve/kopekontrakt_bilar2.pdf

 I agree that when your PDF (or any other that I have tried) is opened
 up using this plugin, that it looks really bad.  In fact, Format |
 Page | Page shows the following information:
 Format: A4
 Margins:
Left: 1.18
Right: 0.39
Top: 0.63
Bottom: 0.39

 This looked really bad.  BUT, the resulting PDF seems to look perfect.
 The margins are certainly nothing like Draw reported them to be.

 Steven P. Ulrick

 P.S.: To all of those that are having issues with this plugin, here is
 some info about our system:
Operating System: Fedora Linux 9
OpenOffice.org Version: DEV300_m33 Build-1
PDF Import Extension: 0.3.2

 I attached the resulting file now, after I exported it to PDF from Draw. It
 doesn't look like yours, and none of them are exactly right.
 
 *Your PDF:*
 
- Check boxes are gone
- I can't input things on the empty lines (it was possible with the
original file)
- Empty lines are positioned a bit too high, maybe 1 or 2 mm
 
 *My PDF:*
 
- Check boxes are replaced by an r with a different font
- I can't input things on the empty lines
- Some lines are too long (maybe a font issue)
 
 So there is still no way to fill in a PDF form and save it properly… (I've
 tried a few other applications, but no luck so far)
 
 J.R.

Nor do I think you will be able to with the extension; I don't think
it's meant for that.

When I have to fill out forms like this (for me US tax forms are a good
example), I open the form in Adobe Reader (8), fill out the form, and
then print it to a cups-pdf virtual printer. That saves the filled out
form in PDF. I've found that to me _much_ easier than trying to use
PDFEdit and other such pdf editors (other than actual Adobe Acrobat of
course). On Windows you should be able to do the same by printing the
filled out form to PDFCreator.






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[users] Installation Instructions for 3.0 / Linux

2008-10-20 Thread John Jason Jordan
I downloaded the tar.gz file for 64-bit Debian Linux and untarred it.
That created a folder OOO300_m9_native_packed-1_en-US.9358 containing
48 .deb files, a license file and a readme file, plus one shell script
update. The readme said nothing about how to install it. I ran the
shell script, but it flashed a terminal window for half a second and
then disappeared. 

Note that I want to migrate settings from my current 2.4.1, but I want
to leave 2.4.1 installed as is.

I do know how to install a .deb file, but where do I start? Do I just
have to install all 48 files individually?
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Re: [users] Installation Instructions for 3.0 / Linux

2008-10-20 Thread M Henri Day
2008/10/20 John Jason Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I downloaded the tar.gz file for 64-bit Debian Linux and untarred it.
 That created a folder OOO300_m9_native_packed-1_en-US.9358 containing
 48 .deb files, a license file and a readme file, plus one shell script
 update. The readme said nothing about how to install it. I ran the
 shell script, but it flashed a terminal window for half a second and
 then disappeared.

 Note that I want to migrate settings from my current 2.4.1, but I want
 to leave 2.4.1 installed as is.

 I do know how to install a .deb file, but where do I start? Do I just
 have to install all 48 files individually?


As to your last question, definitely not. In a terminal, just cd into the
DEBS directory and then run «sudo dpkg -i *.deb». This procedure worked fine
for me with all of the 3.0 builds. Just remember to uninstall earlier
versions of OOo 3 beta (*not* 2.4.1) in Synaptic, in the event you have any,
prior to carrying out the above

Henri


[users] OOo3.0.0: Error in writing sub-document content.xml

2008-10-20 Thread Enrique Perez-Terron
I have installed OpenOffice.org version 3.0.0, build 9358, on a Debian
amd-64 laptop.  I have just written a writer document, but I cannot save
it.  I have managed to save in MS Office 97/2000 format, though.

The error message does not help in any way, it does not point at any
particular place in the text, it does not specify the nature of the
error, there is no partially written file that I could examine (or I
could not find it).

My .xsession-errors does not contain anything from OOo, but that could
be due to a feature of the display manager (gdm).  Whenever I start a
browser (unrelated to OOo) the .xsession-errors fills up with repeated
messages until gdm writes ...Too much output, ignoring rest

To get around this gdm feature, I have tried to attach to the soffice
process with strace, to see if it writes anything to stdout or stderr.
It does not seem to do.  (The output is so voluminous and difficult to
navigate, but searching for the regular expression write.*([12], did
not find anything, while write.*([0-9]*, did.)

I do observe that OOo writes to files in /tmp, like
/tmp/svf1p.tmp/svg7f.tmp, but it subsequently deletes the files before
I can have a chance to examine their contents for any hints.

The document contains parts in different languages, that is the only
thing that may be unusual, that I am aware of. (Languages English (UK),
French (fr), Norwegian (two variants, Bokmål and Nynorsk). However,
I am pretty sure I have saved several times along the way.  I have had
the application open for several days, and it would be no small amount
of work lost if I loose everything.

How can I get past this?

Should I report a bug? I have found a few messages on the web containing
(almost) the same error message, but it applied to 2.4. To report, how
do I do?

Regards,
Enrique



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[users] Mailing labels to Avery 5260

2008-10-20 Thread Philipp Giddings
I am trying to print labels from a database table to a template for 
mailing labels I have followed the instructions from OOo help


1.Choose File - New - Labels to open the Labels dialog.
2.Select the format of the label sheets you want to print on. Remember 
to mark Synchronize contents on the Options tab.

3.Click New Document.
4.When you see the label document, open the data source view by choosing 
View - Data Sources.

5.In the data source view, select your address data source table.
6.Drag the data fields needed for the Address individually into the top 
left label. For example, click on the column header NAME and, keeping 
the mouse button depressed, drag it into the label. This inserts a 
field. Put the fields in order to complete the address in the first 
label at top left.
7.Place the cursor at the last text position (after the last field) in 
the first label.

8.Choose Insert - Fields - Other, and go to the Database tab.
9.Select the type Next record, click on Insert and then on Close.
10.You can now synchronize the labels. Click on the Synchronize Labels 
button in the small window.
11.In the data source view, select the records for which you would like 
address stickers, by clicking on the row headers to the left. Use the 
Shift or Ctrl key in the usual way to select several records at the same 
time.

12.On the Table Data bar, click the Data to Fields icon.
13.You can then save and/or print the label document.
When you choose to print the document, you will be asked if you want to 
print a form letter. Answer Yes to open the Mail Merge dialog.


When I get to step 10 I get only one page of records with all the same 
information.


I have tried step 11 and 12 but get the same result I have 4,018 more 
records selected.


Is there better information on how to print labels elsewhere.
Thanks in advance for any help


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[users] Re: OOo3.0.0: Error in writing sub-document content.xml

2008-10-20 Thread Enrique Perez-Terron
On Mon, 2008-10-20 at 23:20 +0200, Enrique Perez-Terron wrote:
 I have installed OpenOffice.org version 3.0.0, build 9358, on a Debian
 amd-64 laptop.  I have just written a writer document, but I cannot save
 it.  I have managed to save in MS Office 97/2000 format, though.
 
 The error message does not help in any way, it does not point at any
 particular place in the text, it does not specify the nature of the
 error, there is no partially written file that I could examine (or I
 could not find it).

I found something. Saving as html, there was a stray LI outside any
UL../UL pair.

In the OOo window (still open) the paragraph has a custom paragraph
style ehrc-bullet, which in turn refers to the custom list style in
the Numbering page. Applying a different style to that paragraph, it
becomes possible to save the document.

 1. However, the paragraph shows in the OOo writer window without
any bullet.  Yes, now I remember.  I created the style with the
intention of applying it to any paragraph that need a bullet in
front of it. I have tried to apply specific styles to all
paragraphs in the document, and do all formatting through
Modify... in the context menu on the style in the Styles and
Formatting window.  All my paragraphs have custom styles.  I
created them by first formatting a paragraph manually, then
selecting a word in the paragraph, then dragging the selection
to the Paragraph styles selector at the top of the Styles and
Formatting window.  The paragraph used to create ehrc-bullet
*had* a bullet.

However, when I applied the ehcr-bullet style to the first paragraph in
what I thought should become another list, no bullet appeared. (I had
already written a couple of list items as ordinary paragraphs, and
wanted to convert them to a list.)  I created a custom list style and
linked to it in the Numbering tab of the paragraph style, in the
Numbering Style field.  Yet no bullet.

Now I know that some kind of bullets on got set internally, since a) I
get this error when saving, and b) there is LI when I save as HTML.

(I have to say I find the help in the application lacking, because it
never explains the *architecture* of the system of styles. E.g, if I
apply a list style, will that remove the paragraph style? In other
words, is a list style just another paragraph style that happens to
have the bullet and numbering properties set?  I did find something
about this at openoffice.org. Why has nothing of the stuff on the wiki
pages been incorporated in the help?  Even the wiki was just a
beginning, and I now have problems finding back to it...  Perhaps users
on this list (myself included) can team up to help here.  If we try to
generalize from our experiences, and others point out counterexamples,
we should arrive at a description that works.  Or, does this already
exist?)

Regards,
Enrique


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Re: [users] OTL files - Out Text files?

2008-10-20 Thread Dave Barton
 Original Message  
From: web at work [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:17:07 -0400

 Here is a question.
 I have a Bible file in a OTL type of file.
 It is an Outline Text type of document.
 
 Using NoteTab Light, I get a frame that has the
 Books listed and a frame with the Book's verses.
 Click on the Book and it brings up its verses, not any
 other part of the OTL file.
 
 In OOo, I read in the OTL file and it becomes one
 continuous page, no outlines.
 
 Has anyone worked with an OTL file?
 Is there a way to read in an Outlined Text document into 
 OOo and get the correct formated sections?
 At 58,307 lines in the file, it is much easier to show
 it in the Outline format, then one continuous page.
 
 it uses inline commands in the documents like;
 
 = V4 Outline MultiLine NoSorting TabWidth=30
 
  
 
 H=King James Bible
 
 
 
 H=  Genesis
 
 
 Personally, I have never see such a document.
 I wonder if it is a format that began it the DOS days
 or an early word processing DOS Text format.
 
 I can send you directly the file and an image what it looks
 like.  Or I can send you the files plus NoteTab Light.
 (you can download NoteTab Light from www.downloads.com)
 
 Windows NotePad does not show it.  Neither does:
 EmEditor, OpenOffice.org Write, and MS Word.
 Only NoteTab Light so far.  XP does not even associate
 that file to NoteTab Light.  I had to make the association.
 I always try to read unknow file formats in that text editor
 as my default option.
 
 I use OpenOffice.org for my Office stuff, KompoZer for my HTML stuff,
 NoteTab Light for my plain text stuff like Cascading Style Sheets and 
 JavaScripts for web sites or just plain TXT files types.
 
 SO can anyone help?
 Anyone used OTL files before?
 Anyway to get OOo to have one frame show the Outline Headings
 and another to show the text of that outlined section?
 
 Tim L.  (web at work)
 who lost all of my DOS books (and much more references) in my last move.

OTL is the file extension that Eric G.V. Fookes (Fookes Software) chose
to identify the OuTLine feature he built into the NoteTab software.
These are just plain text, with no embedded formatting codes in the true
sense. Other than the presence of the first line in an OTL file and the
equal sign, used as a tag by the NoteTab software, there is nothing
special about these text files. In fact if you open one in any other
plain text editor (eg. Windows Notepad), remove just the first line
(eg. = V4 Outline MultiLine NoSorting TabWidth=30) and save it,
NoteTab will open it as it would any other plain text file, with no side
panel.

The side panel displaying the headings/Books is hard coded into
NoteTab. So there is no reason why OOo, or any other software should
display these files as anything other than plain text. Unless, for some
reason, that other software is emulating NoteTab.

I have a few ideas how something similar might be replicated in Writer
and somebody (not me), with the necessary skills, could possibly even
write an otl to odt converter. However, I don't see this as an award
winning feature for OOo.

Dave


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[users] Re: [OOo Draw] Importing custom shapes

2008-10-20 Thread NoOp
On 10/19/2008 11:46 PM, Bart Friederichs wrote:
 NoOp wrote:
 I'm not sure that I understand. If you have .sdg files, then you should
 also have a corresponding .thm and .sdv file - copy all three to the
 /share/gallery.
   
 I did that in making a copy of existing sdg/thm/sdv files. The result is
 two Themes with the same name and no shapes in them. Apparently the name
 of the files is quite important.
 

Ah. You are correct. I just tried with themes of the same name with the
same results as you.


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Re: [users] Installation Instructions for 3.0 / Linux

2008-10-20 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 23:09:50 +0200
M Henri Day [EMAIL PROTECTED] dijo:

 2008/10/20 John Jason Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  I downloaded the tar.gz file for 64-bit Debian Linux and untarred it.
  That created a folder OOO300_m9_native_packed-1_en-US.9358 containing
  48 .deb files, a license file and a readme file, plus one shell script
  update. The readme said nothing about how to install it. I ran the
  shell script, but it flashed a terminal window for half a second and
  then disappeared.
  Note that I want to migrate settings from my current 2.4.1, but I want
  to leave 2.4.1 installed as is.
  I do know how to install a .deb file, but where do I start? Do I just
  have to install all 48 files individually?

 As to your last question, definitely not. In a terminal, just cd into the
 DEBS directory and then run «sudo dpkg -i *.deb». This procedure worked fine
 for me with all of the 3.0 builds. Just remember to uninstall earlier
 versions of OOo 3 beta (*not* 2.4.1) in Synaptic, in the event you have any,
 prior to carrying out the above

Thanks for the response.

That is what I was thinking I would have to do, but it just seemed strange to 
me that there was not a script or mechanism included to do the job for the user 
who is not familiar with dpkg or apt at the command line. Normally when an 
application comes in multiple debs there is a core or main deb that is 
defined as the dummy package which calls the other debs required by the 
application, and then installs them in whatever order is required, if a special 
order is necessary.

I never installed any of the 3.0 betas, so uninstalling them is not an issue.

I have a couple additional questions. The folder is arranged as follows:

DEBS
4096 2008-10-20 16:24 desktop-integration
-rw-rw-r-- 1 jjj jjj   438754 2008-09-22 07:16 
openoffice.org3.0-debian-menus_3.0-9354_all.deb
2775746 2008-09-30 06:43 ooobasis3.0-base_3.0.0-9_amd64.deb
9216574 2008-09-30 06:39 ooobasis3.0-binfilter_3.0.0-9_amd64.deb
5333956 2008-09-30 06:44 ooobasis3.0-calc_3.0.0-9_amd64.deb
1086008 2008-09-30 06:32 ooobasis3.0-core01_3.0.0-9_amd64.deb
330438 2008-09-30 06:48 ooobasis3.0-core02_3.0.0-9_amd64.deb
7041402 2008-09-30 06:33 ooobasis3.0-core03_3.0.0-9_amd64.deb
37402680 2008-09-30 07:03 ooobasis3.0-core04_3.0.0-9_amd64.deb
15440282 2008-09-30 06:47 ooobasis3.0-core05_3.0.0-9_amd64.deb
12619386 2008-09-30 06:56 ooobasis3.0-core06_3.0.0-9_amd64.deb
3260850 2008-09-30 06:49 ooobasis3.0-core07_3.0.0-9_amd64.deb
4318 2008-09-30 06:43 ooobasis3.0-draw_3.0.0-9_amd64.deb
9069880 2008-09-30 06:41 ooobasis3.0-en-us_3.0.0-9_amd64.deb
762580 2008-09-30 06:40 ooobasis3.0-en-us-base_3.0.0-9_amd64.deb
30504 2008-09-30 06:39 ooobasis3.0-en-us-binfilter_3.0.0-9_amd64.deb
1779814 2008-09-30 06:40 ooobasis3.0-en-us-calc_3.0.0-9_amd64.deb
962416 2008-09-30 06:39 ooobasis3.0-en-us-draw_3.0.0-9_amd64.deb
3972380 2008-09-30 06:40 ooobasis3.0-en-us-help_3.0.0-9_amd64.deb
1236884 2008-09-30 06:39 ooobasis3.0-en-us-impress_3.0.0-9_amd64.deb
962310 2008-09-30 06:40 ooobasis3.0-en-us-math_3.0.0-9_amd64.deb
352682 2008-09-30 06:42 ooobasis3.0-en-us-res_3.0.0-9_amd64.deb
1784786 2008-09-30 06:41 ooobasis3.0-en-us-writer_3.0.0-9_amd64.deb
77058 2008-09-30 06:37 ooobasis3.0-gnome-integration_3.0.0-9_amd64.deb
166222 2008-09-30 06:37 ooobasis3.0-graphicfilter_3.0.0-9_amd64.deb
20127000 2008-09-30 06:39 ooobasis3.0-images_3.0.0-9_amd64.deb
98672 2008-09-30 06:42 ooobasis3.0-impress_3.0.0-9_amd64.deb
91914 2008-09-30 06:37 ooobasis3.0-javafilter_3.0.0-9_amd64.deb
27916 2008-09-30 06:37 ooobasis3.0-kde-integration_3.0.0-9_amd64.deb
321916 2008-09-30 06:43 ooobasis3.0-math_3.0.0-9_amd64.deb
101570 2008-09-30 06:33 ooobasis3.0-onlineupdate_3.0.0-9_amd64.deb
5011844 2008-09-30 06:42 ooobasis3.0-ooofonts_3.0.0-9_amd64.deb
169572 2008-09-30 06:39 ooobasis3.0-ooolinguistic_3.0.0-9_amd64.deb
3254766 2008-09-30 06:37 ooobasis3.0-pyuno_3.0.0-9_amd64.deb
378214 2008-09-30 06:33 ooobasis3.0-testtool_3.0.0-9_amd64.deb
2805692 2008-09-30 06:43 ooobasis3.0-writer_3.0.0-9_amd64.deb
40830 2008-09-30 06:33 ooobasis3.0-xsltfilter_3.0.0-9_amd64.deb
573704 2008-09-30 06:48 openoffice.org3_3.0.0-9_amd64.deb
774 2008-09-30 06:43 openoffice.org3-base_3.0.0-9_amd64.deb
774 2008-09-30 06:43 openoffice.org3-calc_3.0.0-9_amd64.deb
5994564 2008-09-30 06:49 openoffice.org3-dict-en_3.0.0-9_amd64.deb
309922 2008-09-30 07:03 openoffice.org3-dict-es_3.0.0-9_amd64.deb
2155734 2008-09-30 06:39 openoffice.org3-dict-fr_3.0.0-9_amd64.deb
782 2008-09-30 06:43 openoffice.org3-draw_3.0.0-9_amd64.deb
76438 2008-09-30 06:41 openoffice.org3-en-us_3.0.0-9_amd64.deb
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[users] Re: Installation Instructions for 3.0 / Linux

2008-10-20 Thread NoOp
On 10/20/2008 02:09 PM, M Henri Day wrote:
 2008/10/20 John Jason Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 I downloaded the tar.gz file for 64-bit Debian Linux and untarred it.
 That created a folder OOO300_m9_native_packed-1_en-US.9358 containing
 48 .deb files, a license file and a readme file, plus one shell script
 update. The readme said nothing about how to install it. I ran the
 shell script, but it flashed a terminal window for half a second and
 then disappeared.

 Note that I want to migrate settings from my current 2.4.1, but I want
 to leave 2.4.1 installed as is.

 I do know how to install a .deb file, but where do I start? Do I just
 have to install all 48 files individually?
 
 
 As to your last question, definitely not. In a terminal, just cd into the
 DEBS directory and then run «sudo dpkg -i *.deb». This procedure worked fine
 for me with all of the 3.0 builds. Just remember to uninstall earlier
 versions of OOo 3 beta (*not* 2.4.1) in Synaptic, in the event you have any,
 prior to carrying out the above
 
 Henri

Henri is correct. Also here is a link with graphics that might help:

http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-install-openoffice-3.0.0-on-ubuntu-8.04


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Re: [users] Re: Installation Instructions for 3.0 / Linux

2008-10-20 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 16:53:29 -0700
NoOp [EMAIL PROTECTED] dijo:
 
 Henri is correct. Also here is a link with graphics that might help:
 
 http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-install-openoffice-3.0.0-on-ubuntu-8.04

Ah, that answers my questions. Thanks!
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[users] Open Office as default to open .doc files

2008-10-20 Thread Bob Burton

Dear Users,

I want Open Office 3.0 to be my default programme to open Power Point 
and Microsoft .doc files.  In 2.4 on installation you had the choice 
of making it the default programme (program!).  No such option with 
version 3.0   The result is when I double click on a .doc e-mail 
attachment, instead of opening it with Open Office, it brings up a 
message with the file path of the attachment then invalid menu handle.


I can open Open Office Writer and then trace the file path through to 
the attachment,  and then open it, but is there a way of organising 
Open Office 3.0 so that it is, as was version 2.4, the automatic 
default program to open such files?


Bob B.

D.R.N. (Bob) Burton
Unit 3/60 Vahland Avenue
Riverton WA  6148
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[users] Re: Mailing labels to Avery 5260

2008-10-20 Thread NoOp
On 10/20/2008 03:57 PM, Philipp Giddings wrote:
 I am trying to print labels from a database table to a template for 
 mailing labels I have followed the instructions from OOo help

Philipp, I've just tested a small address database in OOo with 5260's
and it prints all 3 pages. Note: I've long learned that it is always
wise to print to a virtual pdf printer first when testing label prints
(cups-pdf on linux, PDFCreator in Windows) so you don't waste ink 
lables first. Following are my comments in-line:
 
 1.Choose File - New - Labels to open the Labels dialog.
 2.Select the format of the label sheets you want to print on. Remember 
 to mark Synchronize contents on the Options tab.

Now check the Address box next to Label text and then the database,
table, and database fields. On the database fields, click the left arrow
to add them to the Address box.

 3.Click New Document.

Only after you get all of the database fields the way you like them.

[snip]
 10.You can now synchronize the labels. Click on the Synchronize Labels 
 button in the small window.
[snip]

Now, File|Print and at the popup Your document contains address
database fields. Do you a want to print a form letter? answer Yes. The
next box will open with the Mail Merge dialog, make sure that
Records|All is slected and then click OK. Now select the PDF printer
just to test first; the result _should_ be a pdf will all of the labels
on multiple pages.

Again: it is well worth the trouble of setting up a virtual PDF printer
_first_ so that you'll be able to test without going through a ton of
ink and paper. After you find that it looks correct to the PDF, they
print only the first 1-2 pages so that you can check for label alignment
etc.


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Re: [users] OTL files - Out Text files?

2008-10-20 Thread web at work



From: Dave Barton [EMAIL PROTECTED]


From: web at work [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:17:07 -0400


Here is a question.
I have a Bible file in a OTL type of file.
It is an Outline Text type of document.

snip


SO can anyone help?
Anyone used OTL files before?
Anyway to get OOo to have one frame show the Outline Headings
and another to show the text of that outlined section?

Tim L.  (web at work)
who lost all of my DOS books (and much more references) in my last move.


OTL is the file extension that Eric G.V. Fookes (Fookes Software) chose
to identify the OuTLine feature he built into the NoteTab software.
These are just plain text, with no embedded formatting codes in the true
sense. Other than the presence of the first line in an OTL file and the
equal sign, used as a tag by the NoteTab software, there is nothing
special about these text files. In fact if you open one in any other
plain text editor (eg. Windows Notepad), remove just the first line
(eg. = V4 Outline MultiLine NoSorting TabWidth=30) and save it,
NoteTab will open it as it would any other plain text file, with no side
panel.

The side panel displaying the headings/Books is hard coded into
NoteTab. So there is no reason why OOo, or any other software should
display these files as anything other than plain text. Unless, for some
reason, that other software is emulating NoteTab.

I have a few ideas how something similar might be replicated in Writer
and somebody (not me), with the necessary skills, could possibly even
write an otl to odt converter. However, I don't see this as an award
winning feature for OOo.

Dave



So I lucked out with reading them in the proper program after all.
I do like the Outline Headings displayed in the left site panel.  I would
love to be able to use some printing software to make a PDF file that
includes the Outline Headings.  PDF's can have chapter outlines, etc., 
but I never learned how to make them.


That is the feature that I like.  over 1500 printed pages and they are 
indexed/outlined for easier use and/or viewing.  Great Idea.


The strange thing, since the OTL file was created for NoteTab, was
the fact that that file format was not associated with NoteTab [light]
and I had to make it associate with it after it was able to be opened
by NoteTab.  Well I have seen stranger.

Thanks for the help.

ALSO at least this list email got through.  It seems my service
is randomly bouncing some of these list-emails back to the list-server
system.  I get that notice once a week or more.  My service 
puts the blame on the list-server, not their email server that is

bouncing the emails back as unwanted or unable to be delivered.

Thanks everyone.
This is still a great place to get information.
Plus Version 3.0 is a great product, and faster to load
than 2.x.  Slower to get its first screen up vs. Word, but
then it takes 2-3 minutes before Word lets me ask it to
open a file or type in new stuff.  OOo/writer does not make
we wait that long to start working.

Tim L.
retired, but working harder now than ever.
plus burning 30-50 OO 3.0 cd this past week
and more next week for those dialup users locally.
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Re: [users] Mailing labels to Avery 5260

2008-10-20 Thread Brian Barker

At 16:57 20/10/2008 -0600, Philipp Giddings wrote:
I am trying to print labels from a database table to a template for 
mailing labels I have followed the instructions from OOo help

[snip]
7.Place the cursor at the last text position (after the last field) 
in the first label.

8.Choose Insert - Fields - Other, and go to the Database tab.
9.Select the type Next record, click on Insert and then on Close.
10.You can now synchronize the labels. Click on the Synchronize 
Labels button in the small window.
11.In the data source view, select the records for which you would 
like address stickers, by clicking on the row headers to the left. 
Use the Shift or Ctrl key in the usual way to select several records 
at the same time.

12.On the Table Data bar, click the Data to Fields icon.
[snip]

When I get to step 10 I get only one page of records with all the 
same information.
I have tried step 11 and 12 but get the same result I have 4,018 
more records selected.


When you get to step 10, you shouldn't expect to see your data 
populating the labels, since you don't select the records you need 
until step 11 or insert them until step 12.  The field names you see 
at step 10 *should* be the same on each label.  If, when you get to 
step 12, you see many copies of one record from your database instead 
of one copy of each of many records, then you have not properly 
carried out steps 7, 8, and 9.  It is these steps that cause the 
synchronisation at step 10 to enable different records to appear on 
each label.  Are you perhaps missing clicking on Insert at step 9?


I trust this helps.

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Re: [users] Open Office as default to open .doc files

2008-10-20 Thread Barbara Duprey

James Knott wrote:

Bob Burton wrote:
  

Dear Users,

I want Open Office 3.0 to be my default programme to open Power Point
and Microsoft .doc files. In 2.4 on installation you had the choice of
making it the default programme (program!). No such option with
version 3.0 The result is when I double click on a .doc e-mail
attachment, instead of opening it with Open Office, it brings up a
message with the file path of the attachment then invalid menu handle.

I can open Open Office Writer and then trace the file path through to
the attachment, and then open it, but is there a way of organising
Open Office 3.0 so that it is, as was version 2.4, the automatic
default program to open such files?




You can select the default application for various file types, by
following these instructions. You'll choose OpenOffice as the default app.

Changing file associations

Right click on file icon
Select Open With  Choose Program...
Check Always use the selected program to open this kind of file and
choose the desired application.
If that method is not available, follow the directions listed here:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307859


Bob, does your e-mail client have its own path information for opening 
attachments? If so, it may be trying to get to your old OOo. What 
happens when you double-click on a .doc file from Windows Explorer?


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Re: [users] OTL files - Out Text files?

2008-10-20 Thread Fred A. Miller
web at work wrote:
 
 
 From: Dave Barton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 From: web at work [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:17:07 -0400

 Here is a question.
 I have a Bible file in a OTL type of file.
 It is an Outline Text type of document.
 snip

 SO can anyone help?
 Anyone used OTL files before?
 Anyway to get OOo to have one frame show the Outline Headings
 and another to show the text of that outlined section?

 Tim L.  (web at work)
 who lost all of my DOS books (and much more references) in my last move.

 OTL is the file extension that Eric G.V. Fookes (Fookes Software) chose
 to identify the OuTLine feature he built into the NoteTab software.
 These are just plain text, with no embedded formatting codes in the true
 sense. Other than the presence of the first line in an OTL file and the
 equal sign, used as a tag by the NoteTab software, there is nothing
 special about these text files. In fact if you open one in any other
 plain text editor (eg. Windows Notepad), remove just the first line
 (eg. = V4 Outline MultiLine NoSorting TabWidth=30) and save it,
 NoteTab will open it as it would any other plain text file, with no side
 panel.

 The side panel displaying the headings/Books is hard coded into
 NoteTab. So there is no reason why OOo, or any other software should
 display these files as anything other than plain text. Unless, for some
 reason, that other software is emulating NoteTab.

 I have a few ideas how something similar might be replicated in Writer
 and somebody (not me), with the necessary skills, could possibly even
 write an otl to odt converter. However, I don't see this as an award
 winning feature for OOo.

 Dave


 So I lucked out with reading them in the proper program after all.
 I do like the Outline Headings displayed in the left site panel.  I would
 love to be able to use some printing software to make a PDF file that
 includes the Outline Headings.  PDF's can have chapter outlines, etc.,
 but I never learned how to make them.
 
 That is the feature that I like.  over 1500 printed pages and they are
 indexed/outlined for easier use and/or viewing.  Great Idea.
 
 The strange thing, since the OTL file was created for NoteTab, was
 the fact that that file format was not associated with NoteTab [light]
 and I had to make it associate with it after it was able to be opened
 by NoteTab.  Well I have seen stranger.
 
 Thanks for the help.
 
 ALSO at least this list email got through.  It seems my service
 is randomly bouncing some of these list-emails back to the list-server
 system.  I get that notice once a week or more.  My service puts the
 blame on the list-server, not their email server that is
 bouncing the emails back as unwanted or unable to be delivered.
 
 Thanks everyone.
 This is still a great place to get information.
 Plus Version 3.0 is a great product, and faster to load
 than 2.x.  Slower to get its first screen up vs. Word, but
 then it takes 2-3 minutes before Word lets me ask it to
 open a file or type in new stuff.  OOo/writer does not make
 we wait that long to start working.
 
 Tim L.
 retired, but working harder now than ever.
 plus burning 30-50 OO 3.0 cd this past week
 and more next week for those dialup users locally.
 Free of charge or a donation to the cause.

GREAT! Keep up the good work!

Fred

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Re: [users] Bad Bug in 3.0 windoze

2008-10-20 Thread Richard Detwiler

The Beaver wrote:
In Calc when I type in a number like a part number, it automatically 
destroys my entry and makes it a date.  I tried changing the format to 
number and it still ruins the spreadsheet by making the part number a 
date.  It seems to work correctly if I format the part number column 
as text, but if Calc automatically turns all numbers to a date, it 
will have no useful value as a program.  I never had this problem with 
2.4

Floyd


Floyd -- As Brian said, it would help greatly in understanding what is 
going on if you could give examples of the part number being changed to 
a date.


Calc certainly doesn't turn all numbers into dates, like you claimed. If 
your version really does do that, there is clearly something amiss.


And as was stated, it sounds like you've identified the solution -- 
format the part number column as text. Part numbers should be treated as 
text anyway. It wouldn't make any sense to perform numerical 
computations on them (like adding up a column of part numbers, or 
multiplying the part number by 2, etc.). Kind of like phone numbers -- 
other than being composed of numbers, there is no real numerical meaning 
to them. You wouldn't multiply two of them together, divide one by the 
other, add 10 to one of them, etc. and expect them to have any meaning 
as a phone number any more.


So it would help if you replied to the list and gave examples of the 
part numbers that are being changed. Although it sounds like your 
problem is solved (format as text), so assuming that continues to 
prevent your problem, there may be no more need to give any specifics.


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Re: [users] Open Office as default to open .doc files

2008-10-20 Thread Bob Burton
Thank you, James.  Your first option worked.  Thanks also to Barbara 
for her input.


Bob.


At 08:43 PM 20/10/2008 -0400, you wrote:


Bob Burton wrote:
 Dear Users,

 I want Open Office 3.0 to be my default programme to open Power Point
 and Microsoft .doc files. In 2.4 on installation you had the choice of
 making it the default programme (program!). No such option with
 version 3.0 The result is when I double click on a .doc e-mail
 attachment, instead of opening it with Open Office, it brings up a
 message with the file path of the attachment then invalid menu handle.

 I can open Open Office Writer and then trace the file path through to
 the attachment, and then open it, but is there a way of organising
 Open Office 3.0 so that it is, as was version 2.4, the automatic
 default program to open such files?


You can select the default application for various file types, by
following these instructions. You'll choose OpenOffice as the default app.

Changing file associations

Right click on file icon
Select Open With  Choose Program...
Check Always use the selected program to open this kind of file and
choose the desired application.
If that method is not available, follow the directions listed here:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307859

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Re: [users] Re: Mailing labels to Avery 5260

2008-10-20 Thread norseman

NoOp wrote:

On 10/20/2008 03:57 PM, Philipp Giddings wrote:
I am trying to print labels from a database table to a template for 
mailing labels I have followed the instructions from OOo help


Philipp, I've just tested a small address database in OOo with 5260's
and it prints all 3 pages. Note: I've long learned that it is always
wise to print to a virtual pdf printer first when testing label prints
(cups-pdf on linux, PDFCreator in Windows) so you don't waste ink 
lables first. 


...(snip)   follow NoOp's lead in making the labels.


Again: it is well worth the trouble of setting up a virtual PDF printer
_first_ so that you'll be able to test without going through a ton of
ink and paper. After you find that it looks correct to the PDF, they
print only the first 1-2 pages so that you can check for label alignment
etc.



YES, YES, YES and more so.  ANY output that needs definitive alignment 
and/or special attention to layout should be printed to PostScript in 
Linux and PDF in Windows and viewed (with a critical eye) as many times 
as needed before going to 'paper'. Use gv in Linux and Acro(whatever) in 
 Microsoft to view results. Zoom and pan are available for assessing 
critical areas.  I print to desktop labels and 36 x 500' and 54 x 250' 
(yep! inches wide by feet long) rasters and without NoOp's suggestion 
the price tag quickly gets well out of hand.  Label type alignment test 
page is printed in gray scale to save color ink. (Replacing the ink in 
the plotters can run $600.00 to over $1000.00 per reload. And the shelf 
life for those cartridges isn't that great. So skip the stock up on 
sale idea.)


NoOp definitely has the right suggestion.  I would add a hint:  For 
label work, put three periods in each corner of the master (top left) 
label and replicate per sheet and print that to regular cheep paper and 
use an outside window in the daytime as the light table and place the 
printed '...'s over the label sheet on first try. When they fall right, 
proceed to check a page of actual output as NoOp has said.  Won't hurt 
to have a ruler handy. Any distance corrections are those to move the 
printed sheet TO THE correct alignment (LEFT IS NEGATIVE AS IS UP) and 
are applied to margins, offsets, etc.



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Re: [users] Bad Bug in 3.0 windoze

2008-10-20 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
I thought that you could turn that off... (that is when Calc converts an 
entered number into a date)


All that I could find, however, was that you can precede the number with 
a single quote so that it is entered as text.


very sad... If it is indeed a number, what happens if you then change 
the format from date back to a normal number?


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Re: [users] Re: OOo3.0.0: Error in writing sub-document content.xml

2008-10-20 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
You appear to be an advanced user, so I will make this assumption while 
answering...


You discuss styles. If you have a document, and a series of steps that 
will reproduce the problem, please file a bug report and attache the 
document in question that is used for those steps. They really do fix 
these problems. There is a learning curve on how to do this, but take a 
look here and see how it goes


http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/query.cgi


Enrique Perez-Terron wrote:

On Mon, 2008-10-20 at 23:20 +0200, Enrique Perez-Terron wrote:
  
I found something. Saving as html, there was a stray LI outside any

UL../UL pair.

In the OOo window (still open) the paragraph has a custom paragraph
style ehrc-bullet, which in turn refers to the custom list style in
the Numbering page. Applying a different style to that paragraph, it
becomes possible to save the document.

 1. However, the paragraph shows in the OOo writer window without
any bullet.  Yes, now I remember.  I created the style with the
intention of applying it to any paragraph that need a bullet in
front of it. I have tried to apply specific styles to all
paragraphs in the document, and do all formatting through
Modify... in the context menu on the style in the Styles and
Formatting window.  All my paragraphs have custom styles.  I
created them by first formatting a paragraph manually, then
selecting a word in the paragraph, then dragging the selection
to the Paragraph styles selector at the top of the Styles and
Formatting window.  The paragraph used to create ehrc-bullet
*had* a bullet.

However, when I applied the ehcr-bullet style to the first paragraph in
what I thought should become another list, no bullet appeared. (I had
already written a couple of list items as ordinary paragraphs, and
wanted to convert them to a list.)  I created a custom list style and
linked to it in the Numbering tab of the paragraph style, in the
Numbering Style field.  Yet no bullet.

Now I know that some kind of bullets on got set internally, since a) I
get this error when saving, and b) there is LI when I save as HTML.

(I have to say I find the help in the application lacking, because it
never explains the *architecture* of the system of styles. E.g, if I
apply a list style, will that remove the paragraph style? 


No, applying a list style will not change the paragraph style.

I can set many things in a paragraph style, including character 
formatting, and list styles. I can then manually change formatting, or 
apply other styles on top of the paragraph style without affecting the 
paragraph style. I can also select text and choose to set it back to 
default formatting...




In other
words, is a list style just another paragraph style that happens to
have the bullet and numbering properties set?  


I can set a list style inside a paragraph style, but that is different 
than applying a list style manually. I have never bothered to do that, 
but I understand why you would want to. I create paragraph styles, 
character styles, frame styles, numbering styles, etc I then apply 
them individually. Why?


1. I create a table of contents using paragraph styles.

2. I have reasons for wanting to use their standard outline styles 
(heading 1, heading 2, etc...), but wanting to set my own numbering so 
that I have sections such as


1. hello
1.1 hello sub thingy
1.2 another sub thing...
.
.
.
2. Hello again
.
.
.
Appendix A. Explaining hello


I do this by manually applying a _chapters numbering style for regular 
chapters, and _appendix to the appendix headings. Works great.



I did find something
about this at openoffice.org. Why has nothing of the stuff on the wiki
pages been incorporated in the help?  Even the wiki was just a
beginning, and I now have problems finding back to it...  Perhaps users
on this list (myself included) can team up to help here.  If we try to
generalize from our experiences, and others point out counterexamples,
we should arrive at a description that works.  Or, does this already
exist?

Start here:

http://documentation.openoffice.org/


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Re: [users] copying from one sheet to another, skipping 2

2008-10-20 Thread Joe Conner

bill wrote:
My spreadsheet has blood pressure values in sets of 3.  I average each 
them and then use the average of each set, which works fine.
But, I now have 2 rows that have the original data and nothing else, 
and distract from the presentation.
So, I need to either copy every 3rd row to a new sheet or 
automagically make the other 2 rows disappear from the original sheet.


I could do it manually, but I get new data frequently and would prefer 
not to do all the work by hand.
Is there a way to tell calc to copy just every 3rd row from one sheet 
to another, or

to hide 2 of 3 rows ?

Perhaps if you put your raw data on one sheet and your averaged data on 
a second sheet?


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[users] Adapting to 3.0

2008-10-20 Thread John Jason Jordan
OK, took the plunge and installed 3.0 on Ubuntu Hardy x86_64. There are a few 
issues I can't figure out.

First, when I launch OOo I get a splash screen asking me what kind of document 
I want. I use Calc, Impress, Draw and Base about one time out of a thousand and 
999 times out of a thousand I want Writer. How do I disable this so that when I 
launch Writer it just automatically launches Writer? 

Second, when I close OOo Writer it does not save the size and position of the 
window. Every time I launch OOo I have to drag the window to the correct size 
for my display and personal taste. OOo 2.4.1 automatically saved the last 
window size and position when I exited the program. Is there a button to fix 
this so it saves the window size and position? If so, where did they hide it? 
Or is this a bug?

Third, although I told it to migrate my settings from 2.4.1, it failed to 
migrate a lot of things. For example, I had to go in and recreate the default 
document template. Also none of my toolbar settings were saved. This is not too 
big a deal - both are easily recreated, but I can't get rid of the 
right-to-left and left-to-right icons on the formatting toolbar. In the 
customizing window they are deselected, but the icons are still on the toolbar. 
I got rid of all the other unwanted icons, but these two persist. Is this a bug?

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Re: [users] Adapting to 3.0

2008-10-20 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 21:46:41 -0700
John Jason Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED] dijo:

 OK, took the plunge and installed 3.0 on Ubuntu Hardy x86_64. There are a few 
 issues I can't figure out.
 
 First, when I launch OOo I get a splash screen asking me what kind of 
 document I want. I use Calc, Impress, Draw and Base about one time out of a 
 thousand and 999 times out of a thousand I want Writer. How do I disable this 
 so that when I launch Writer it just automatically launches Writer? 
 
 Second, when I close OOo Writer it does not save the size and position of the 
 window. Every time I launch OOo I have to drag the window to the correct size 
 for my display and personal taste. OOo 2.4.1 automatically saved the last 
 window size and position when I exited the program. Is there a button to fix 
 this so it saves the window size and position? If so, where did they hide it? 
 Or is this a bug?
 
 Third, although I told it to migrate my settings from 2.4.1, it failed to 
 migrate a lot of things. For example, I had to go in and recreate the default 
 document template. Also none of my toolbar settings were saved. This is not 
 too big a deal - both are easily recreated, but I can't get rid of the 
 right-to-left and left-to-right icons on the formatting toolbar. In the 
 customizing window they are deselected, but the icons are still on the 
 toolbar. I got rid of all the other unwanted icons, but these two persist. Is 
 this a bug?

Add one more problem, this one a show-stopper. It failed to migrate any of my 
macros. I have a lot of them and they took me a very long time and lots of work 
to create. How can I get my macros from OOo 2.4.1 into OOo 3.0?
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