Re: [users] OdfConverter integration in OOo?

2008-12-14 Thread Arnold Huzen
Why bother with the trouble of a converter if OOo3 can open them by just 
doubleclicking them?


Dotan Cohen schreef:

I just found this nice tool for converting docx files to odf:
http://www.oooninja.com/2008/12/better-office-docx-converter.html

The tool is based upon OdfConverter:
http://odf-converter.sourceforge.net/

The odf-converter license seems compatible with the GPL, it is
BSD-like and very short and explicit.

  


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Re: [users] Uninstalling

2008-12-14 Thread James Knott
Furhter on this, what is the name of the file in My Documents?

Jane Krychiw wrote:
 How do I uninstall? I don't want this program taking up all this space in
 my My Documents folder

   

It shouldn't be in your My Documents folder, unless that's where you
downloaded it too.  That's the package that you double click on, to
start the installation.  If it is installed, there should be an
OpenOffice.org folder and icons in your Start menu.  If it's not there,
it's not installed.  If it is there, you can uninstall it the same way
as you would any other application, by using Add/Remove Programs,
located in the Control Panel.  Either way, you can delete that file in
your My Documents folder.

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Re: [users] Uninstalling

2008-12-14 Thread James Knott
Jane Krychiw wrote:
 How do I uninstall? I don't want this program taking up all this space in
 my My Documents folder

   

It shouldn't be in your My Documents folder, unless that's where you
downloaded it too.  That's the package that you double click on, to
start the installation.  If it is installed, there should be an
OpenOffice.org folder and icons in your Start menu.  If it's not there,
it's not installed.  If it is there, you can uninstall it the same way
as you would any other application, by using Add/Remove Programs,
located in the Control Panel.  Either way, you can delete that file in
your My Documents folder.

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Re: [Fwd: RE: [users] Uninstalling]

2008-12-14 Thread Arnold Huzen
It looks to me like you're talking about the downloaded installfiles for 
OOo. After you installed OOo to your computer you can savely remove 
these or move them to any medium you like (usb/cd/dvd).


JOE Conner schreef:





 Original Message 
Subject: RE: [users] Uninstalling
Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 23:13:16 -0500
From: Jane Krychiw stchr3...@comcast.net
To: 'JOE Conner' joeconner2...@gmail.com
References: 76b76db1ce024e41ab511651055f2...@janesoffice 
49447e78.5070...@gmail.com




Hi Joe

Below is a reply I just sent to a Brian who replied to my email. I 
have no

idea how all those files go where they are. I do not change places. I let
Windows put them where it they should go. I have sent you an 
attachment to

show what it looks like in My Documents

I am so sorry! I should know better. I am using windows XP Sp3

I have gone to control panel add remove programs and it is not there! 
I am

not a computer nerd but I do have some basic knowledge. I would consider
myself and advanced beginner/beginner intermediate, if there is such a
classification/category.

Please help!

Jane in NJ



-Original Message-
From: JOE Conner [mailto:joeconner2...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, 
December 13, 2008 10:33 PM

To: Open Office Users Group; stchr3...@comcast.net
Subject: Re: [users] Uninstalling

Jane Krychiw wrote:
How do I uninstall? I don't want this program taking up all this 
space in

my My Documents folder

 


Jane in NJ

Windows XP

  
You can unstall OOo just the same as any other windows program.  I am 
puzzled, the program does not install in your My Documents folder 
unless you expressly chose that folder during your initial installation.


Joe Conner, Poulsbo, WA USA

-Original Message-


Please respond to the users list only.



I have no further ideas, and I am wondering if OpenOffice even will 
run on her machine.  If it is not


even listed in the control panel/add remove software.



If it does not run, then I suppose I would delete the unwanted files, 
even though generally I do not


recommend this for a windows user.  What ever happened to the undelete 
choice that used to be


available from START - PROGRAM FILES - OPENOFFICE - Uninstall?  I no 
longer have it as an opiton


in my OOo3.0.0.



Anyone else want to give it a shot?



Joe Conner, Poulsbo, WA USA






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Re: [users] Uninstalling

2008-12-14 Thread Johnny Rosenberg
Yet another troll. Getting so tired of this!

2008/12/13 Jane Krychiw stchr3...@comcast.net

 How do I uninstall? I don't want this program taking up all this space in
 my My Documents folder



 Jane in NJ

 Windows XP



 I just rented a sewing video at: a
 href=https://smartflix.com/?ct=af219060;SmartFlix.com How-To DVDs/a
 There's other catagories too!






Re: [users] Re: WRITER: Search for Special Characters, Invisible Characters, Character Styles, Markers of Type X

2008-12-14 Thread Harold Fuchs

On 13/12/2008 19:07, Twayne wrote:

We are exploring the search (ctrl-f) function in Writer. We see how to
search for many things, but not yet for special characters (em dash,
ellipsis), invisible characters (end of paragraph and the like),
character styles, or for, say, markers of a given type.

I do see the checkbox for Search for Styles, but this seems only to
make available paragraph styles and nothing else.

I feel certain we are simply missing something. How can we conduct
such searches?

Thank you kindly,
Elchanan



This has been a great thread; that info will be most useful to me!!

In the process, I also discovered that you can add external data to the 
Help's Bookmarks features.  Just for grins I copied the URL of one of 
the references links I liked, click the Bookmark icon, pasted in that 
URL, and it shows just fine in the BookMarks field.  So it works for 
anything, not just Help items.  That's new to me, and a great find too!


Twayne


  
Erm. I'm not sure what you mean here. Yes you can paste any text 
(including text that looks like a link - Http://...) into the Bookmarks 
pane of the Help system but, later, when you click that text in the 
Bookmarks pane it just takes you to the Help page that was visible at 
the time you did the pasting. It seems to me - could be wrong of course 
- that *you* can somehow get the Help bookmarks to act as a sort of 
mini-browser linking to *external* (web, local files,...) URLs. If 
that's right, please explain how you managed it.


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Re: [Fwd: RE: [users] Uninstalling]

2008-12-14 Thread Harold Fuchs

Top post to keep this thread rational.

The fact that OOo doesn't appear in the Add/Remove Programs list proves 
that it hasn't actually been installed but that the OP has unpacked the 
download file into her My Documents folder.


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On 14/12/2008 11:44, Arnold Huzen wrote:
It looks to me like you're talking about the downloaded installfiles 
for OOo. After you installed OOo to your computer you can savely 
remove these or move them to any medium you like (usb/cd/dvd).


JOE Conner schreef:





 Original Message 
Subject: RE: [users] Uninstalling
Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 23:13:16 -0500
From: Jane Krychiw stchr3...@comcast.net
To: 'JOE Conner' joeconner2...@gmail.com
References: 76b76db1ce024e41ab511651055f2...@janesoffice 
49447e78.5070...@gmail.com




Hi Joe

Below is a reply I just sent to a Brian who replied to my email. I 
have no
idea how all those files go where they are. I do not change places. I 
let
Windows put them where it they should go. I have sent you an 
attachment to

show what it looks like in My Documents

I am so sorry! I should know better. I am using windows XP Sp3

I have gone to control panel add remove programs and it is not there! 
I am

not a computer nerd but I do have some basic knowledge. I would consider
myself and advanced beginner/beginner intermediate, if there is such a
classification/category.

Please help!

Jane in NJ



-Original Message-
From: JOE Conner [mailto:joeconner2...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, 
December 13, 2008 10:33 PM

To: Open Office Users Group; stchr3...@comcast.net
Subject: Re: [users] Uninstalling

Jane Krychiw wrote:
How do I uninstall? I don't want this program taking up all this 
space in

my My Documents folder

 


Jane in NJ

Windows XP

  
You can unstall OOo just the same as any other windows program.  I am 
puzzled, the program does not install in your My Documents folder 
unless you expressly chose that folder during your initial installation.


Joe Conner, Poulsbo, WA USA

-Original Message-


Please respond to the users list only.



I have no further ideas, and I am wondering if OpenOffice even will 
run on her machine.  If it is not


even listed in the control panel/add remove software.



If it does not run, then I suppose I would delete the unwanted files, 
even though generally I do not


recommend this for a windows user.  What ever happened to the 
undelete choice that used to be


available from START - PROGRAM FILES - OPENOFFICE - Uninstall?  I no 
longer have it as an opiton


in my OOo3.0.0.



Anyone else want to give it a shot?



Joe Conner, Poulsbo, WA USA






Re: [users] OdfConverter integration in OOo?

2008-12-14 Thread Harold Fuchs

On 14/12/2008 11:39, Arnold Huzen wrote:
Why bother with the trouble of a converter if OOo3 can open them by 
just doubleclicking them?


Dotan Cohen schreef:

I just found this nice tool for converting docx files to odf:
http://www.oooninja.com/2008/12/better-office-docx-converter.html

The tool is based upon OdfConverter:
http://odf-converter.sourceforge.net/

The odf-converter license seems compatible with the GPL, it is
BSD-like and very short and explicit.

  



Does the oooninja tool (or the sourceforge one) do a better job than 
OOo? Or handle more complex documents? Or 


The first few paragraphs of the ooninja web page suggest it does exactly 
those things.



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[users] Re: Impress: Playing videos on Linux

2008-12-14 Thread NoOp
On 12/13/2008 08:37 PM, Laurent Duperval wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Is there any way to play videos on Linux (64 bit). Any format I try (flv, 
 avi, mpg, mp4) I get an error saying the format is not supported.
 
 Any help welcome,
 
 L

I don't have 64bit, but I am able to play video in Impress. The key is
that you must install Sun Java JMF (also install the mp3 plugin), then
point your classpath in OOo to the installed location. Example (I've
installed JMF in /opt/JMF-2.1.1e/):

Tools|Options|OOo|Java|Class Path|Add Archive:

/opt/JMF-2.1.1e/lib/mediaplayer.jar
/opt/JMF-2.1.1e//lib/mp2plugin.jar
/opt/JMF-2.1.1e/lib/multiplayer.jar
/opt/JMF-2.1.1e/lib/jmf.jar

Then click OK. Again, don't know about 64bit, but works pretty well on
32bit.



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Re: [users] Re: [moderated]

2008-12-14 Thread Harold Fuchs

On 14/12/2008 02:04, Larry Gusaas wrote:

bill wrote:
clip /

Larry Gusaas wrote:
   

 Harold Fuchs wrote:
 

 On 12/12/2008 14:38, Web Kracked wrote:
   
 My copy of Thunderbird is now asking me if the email from 
this list

 is spam.
 Every email, I am asked if it is spam.  This did not happen
 yesterday or any
 other day since I started running Thunderbird.

 So it may not just be you.  Something has changed.  
Hopefully it

 will change
 back.

 Tim L.
  
 Thunderbird has a facility whereby you can have it mark as 
junk mail
 from anyone not in your address book. Have you accidentally 
turned on

 this option?
 The option is is available in the main window: ToolsAccount
 SettingsJunk Settings



 There is no such setting. The setting is to not mark as junk 
anyone in

 you addressbook.


I beg to differ.  In Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 Tools - Account settings
then you select the account in which you are interested and listed 
between Disk Space and Return Receipts is Junk Settings.


Read all of what I said. I replied to a post that said there was a 
setting  mark as junk mail from anyone not in your address book. I 
pointed out that there was not such a setting.


Mr. Gusaas is right; the setting is Do not mark mail as junk if the 
sender is in  The converse of that is *not* mark as junk if the 
sender is not in ..., which is what I erroneously calculated.


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Re: [users] Impress: Playing videos on Linux

2008-12-14 Thread Richard Detwiler

Laurent Duperval wrote:

Hi,

Is there any way to play videos on Linux (64 bit). Any format I try (flv, 
avi, mpg, mp4) I get an error saying the format is not supported.


Any help welcome,


  


Am I missing something, or does this have nothing to do with OpenOffice?


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Re: [users] Impress: Playing videos on Linux

2008-12-14 Thread Harold Fuchs

On 14/12/2008 04:59, Kevin B. O'Brien wrote:

Laurent Duperval wrote:

Hi,

Is there any way to play videos on Linux (64 bit). Any format I try 
(flv, avi, mpg, mp4) I get an error saying the format is not supported.
  
I don't think this is the best place to ask this question, as it has 
nothing to do with OpenOffice.org. That said, the problem is most 
likely that you have not installed the codecs. Since many of these are 
proprietary (i.e. not free), they tend not to be installed on most 
Linux distros by default. Check with your distro to see if they have a 
repository for restricted or non-free software, and that would 
probably get you going. And you should probably follow up by going to 
a forum for your distro if you have any more questions about this.


Regards,

OpenOffice Writer has (on Windows XP Pro at least) a menu option: 
InsertMovie and Sound but I don't know if it's even available on Linux 
let alone if it works.


In addition, VLC (http://www.videolan.org/) is a free open source media 
player; binaries are available for Windows and Mac but the source code 
is also available so you should be able to compile/link it on Linux. I 
have it on good authority that it doesn't need external codecs but has 
all the necessary technology built in. No, I have no connection with 
Videolan, paid or otherwise.


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Re: [users] Impress: Playing videos on Linux

2008-12-14 Thread Harold Fuchs

On 14/12/2008 18:43, Harold Fuchs wrote:

On 14/12/2008 04:59, Kevin B. O'Brien wrote:

Laurent Duperval wrote:

Hi,

Is there any way to play videos on Linux (64 bit). Any format I try 
(flv, avi, mpg, mp4) I get an error saying the format is not supported.
  
I don't think this is the best place to ask this question, as it has 
nothing to do with OpenOffice.org. That said, the problem is most 
likely that you have not installed the codecs. Since many of these 
are proprietary (i.e. not free), they tend not to be installed on 
most Linux distros by default. Check with your distro to see if they 
have a repository for restricted or non-free software, and that would 
probably get you going. And you should probably follow up by going to 
a forum for your distro if you have any more questions about this.


Regards,

OpenOffice Writer has (on Windows XP Pro at least) a menu option: 
InsertMovie and Sound but I don't know if it's even available on 
Linux let alone if it works.


In addition, VLC (http://www.videolan.org/) is a free open source 
media player; binaries are available for Windows and Mac but the 
source code is also available so you should be able to compile/link it 
on Linux. I have it on good authority that it doesn't need external 
codecs but has all the necessary technology built in. No, I have no 
connection with Videolan, paid or otherwise.


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Sorry, I should have said ... Impress ... has a menu option ... but 
it's true of Writer too.


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[users] Re: Impress: Playing videos on Linux

2008-12-14 Thread NoOp
On 12/14/2008 10:33 AM, Richard Detwiler wrote:
 Laurent Duperval wrote:
 Hi,

 Is there any way to play videos on Linux (64 bit). Any format I try (flv, 
 avi, mpg, mp4) I get an error saying the format is not supported.

 Any help welcome,


   
 
 Am I missing something, or does this have nothing to do with OpenOffice?

Yes you are missing:

Impress: Playing videos on Linux

*Impress*


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Re: [users] Impress: Playing videos on Linux

2008-12-14 Thread James Knott
Harold Fuchs wrote:
 On 14/12/2008 04:59, Kevin B. O'Brien wrote:
 Laurent Duperval wrote:
 Hi,

 Is there any way to play videos on Linux (64 bit). Any format I try
 (flv, avi, mpg, mp4) I get an error saying the format is not supported.
   
 I don't think this is the best place to ask this question, as it has
 nothing to do with OpenOffice.org. That said, the problem is most
 likely that you have not installed the codecs. Since many of these
 are proprietary (i.e. not free), they tend not to be installed on
 most Linux distros by default. Check with your distro to see if they
 have a repository for restricted or non-free software, and that would
 probably get you going. And you should probably follow up by going to
 a forum for your distro if you have any more questions about this.

 Regards,

 OpenOffice Writer has (on Windows XP Pro at least) a menu option:
 InsertMovie and Sound but I don't know if it's even available on
 Linux let alone if it works.


That option is also in the Linux version, but I've never had occasion to
use it.  I'm running 64 bit OOo on Linux.


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[users] Unwanted hyphenation

2008-12-14 Thread thomas steel
Another try! Is this the right variant of the OO address to get help? My system 
has suddenly started hyphenating words at the ends of lines  I cannot find the 
way to stop it. Can anyone explain the problem simply? I'd be very grateful. T. 
Steel

[users] Re: Impress: Playing videos on Linux

2008-12-14 Thread NoOp
On 12/14/2008 10:16 AM, NoOp wrote:
[snip]
 
 Tools|Options|OOo|Java|Class Path|Add Archive:
 
 /opt/JMF-2.1.1e/lib/mediaplayer.jar
 /opt/JMF-2.1.1e//lib/mp2plugin.jar
 /opt/JMF-2.1.1e/lib/multiplayer.jar
 /opt/JMF-2.1.1e/lib/jmf.jar
 
 Then click OK. Again, don't know about 64bit, but works pretty well on
 32bit.

Sorry, forgot to add the JMF links:
http://java.sun.com/javase/technologies/desktop/media/jmf/index.jsp


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Re: [users] Unwanted hyphenation

2008-12-14 Thread James Knott
thomas steel wrote:
 Another try! Is this the right variant of the OO address to get help? My 
 system has suddenly started hyphenating words at the ends of lines  I cannot 
 find the way to stop it. Can anyone explain the problem simply? I'd be very 
 grateful. T. Steel
   
Look in the on-line help for hyphenation.  Your answer is likely in there.


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[users] Re: OdfConverter integration in OOo?

2008-12-14 Thread NoOp
On 12/14/2008 10:15 AM, Harold Fuchs wrote:
 On 14/12/2008 11:39, Arnold Huzen wrote:
 Why bother with the trouble of a converter if OOo3 can open them by 
 just doubleclicking them?

 Dotan Cohen schreef:
 I just found this nice tool for converting docx files to odf:
 http://www.oooninja.com/2008/12/better-office-docx-converter.html

 The tool is based upon OdfConverter:
 http://odf-converter.sourceforge.net/

 The odf-converter license seems compatible with the GPL, it is
 BSD-like and very short and explicit.

   


 Does the oooninja tool (or the sourceforge one) do a better job than 
 OOo? Or handle more complex documents? Or 
 
 The first few paragraphs of the ooninja web page suggest it does exactly 
 those things.
 
 

It does. But I was only able to get it to work on my Ubuntu OOo 2.4.1
version - I was not able to get it to work on my standard OOo 3.0 versions.



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Re: [users] Unwanted hyphenation

2008-12-14 Thread thomas steel
No, I've struggled  struggled with on-line help  it hasn't helped me on 
this one! TS
- Original Message - 
From: James Knott james.kn...@rogers.com

To: users@openoffice.org
Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 7:34 PM
Subject: Re: [users] Unwanted hyphenation



thomas steel wrote:
Another try! Is this the right variant of the OO address to get help? My 
system has suddenly started hyphenating words at the ends of lines  I 
cannot find the way to stop it. Can anyone explain the problem simply? 
I'd be very grateful. T. Steel



Look in the on-line help for hyphenation.  Your answer is likely in there.


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Re: [users] Unwanted hyphenation

2008-12-14 Thread Gene Young

thomas steel wrote:
No, I've struggled  struggled with on-line help  it hasn't helped me 
on this one! TS


To automatically hyphenate the current or selected paragraphs, choose Format - Paragraph, and then 
click the Text Flow tab. Uncheck Automatically.



Answer found by searching help for hyphen

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Re: [users] Unwanted hyphenation

2008-12-14 Thread Brian Barker

At 18:22 14/12/2008 +, Thomas Steel wrote:

Another try! Is this the right variant of the OO address to get help?


Yup.

My system has suddenly started hyphenating words at the ends of 
lines  I cannot find the way to stop it. Can anyone explain the 
problem simply?


Automatic hyphenation is a paragraph property as well as a paragraph 
style property.  You may (unwittingly) have selected automatic 
hyphenation for the paragraph style that you are 
using.  Alternatively, you may just have selected this property for a 
single paragraph.  Note that, in this case, if you press Enter to 
start a new paragraph, this will inherit the properties of the 
previous paragraph; in this way, you may have created a number of 
consecutive paragraphs separately formatted for automatic hyphenation.


o  To disable automatic hyphenation for a paragraph or paragraphs, go 
to Format | Paragraph... | Text Flow | Hyphenation (or right-click | 
Paragraph... | Text Flow | Hyphenation) and remove the tick from Automatically.


o  To disable automatic hyphenation for a paragraph style, go to 
right-click | Edit Paragraph Style... | Text Flow | Hyphenation and 
remove the tick from Automatically.


You may need to try both these techniques, depending on exactly which 
unwanted setting has become ticked.


I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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Re: [users] Re: OdfConverter integration in OOo?

2008-12-14 Thread Harold Fuchs

On 14/12/2008 19:36, NoOp wrote:

On 12/14/2008 10:15 AM, Harold Fuchs wrote:
  

On 14/12/2008 11:39, Arnold Huzen wrote:

Why bother with the trouble of a converter if OOo3 can open them by 
just doubleclicking them?


Dotan Cohen schreef:
  

I just found this nice tool for converting docx files to odf:
http://www.oooninja.com/2008/12/better-office-docx-converter.html

The tool is based upon OdfConverter:
http://odf-converter.sourceforge.net/

The odf-converter license seems compatible with the GPL, it is
BSD-like and very short and explicit.

  

  
Does the oooninja tool (or the sourceforge one) do a better job than 
OOo? Or handle more complex documents? Or 


The first few paragraphs of the ooninja web page suggest it does exactly 
those things.






It does. But I was only able to get it to work on my Ubuntu OOo 2.4.1
version - I was not able to get it to work on my standard OOo 3.0 versions.


  

What does the author say about that?


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[users] Re: OdfConverter integration in OOo?

2008-12-14 Thread NoOp
On 12/14/2008 12:34 PM, Harold Fuchs wrote:
 On 14/12/2008 19:36, NoOp wrote:


 It does. But I was only able to get it to work on my Ubuntu OOo 2.4.1
 version - I was not able to get it to work on my standard OOo 3.0 versions.


   
 What does the author say about that?
 
 

Haven't had time to follow up yet. I'll post back when I get it sorted out.


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Re: [users] Impress: Playing videos on Linux

2008-12-14 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 14:18:01 -0500
James Knott james.kn...@rogers.com dijo:

 Harold Fuchs wrote:
  On 14/12/2008 04:59, Kevin B. O'Brien wrote:
  Laurent Duperval wrote:
  Is there any way to play videos on Linux (64 bit). Any format I try
  (flv, avi, mpg, mp4) I get an error saying the format is not supported.

  I don't think this is the best place to ask this question, as it has
  nothing to do with OpenOffice.org. That said, the problem is most
  likely that you have not installed the codecs. Since many of these
  are proprietary (i.e. not free), they tend not to be installed on
  most Linux distros by default. Check with your distro to see if they
  have a repository for restricted or non-free software, and that would
  probably get you going. And you should probably follow up by going to
  a forum for your distro if you have any more questions about this.

  OpenOffice Writer has (on Windows XP Pro at least) a menu option:
  InsertMovie and Sound but I don't know if it's even available on
  Linux let alone if it works.

 That option is also in the Linux version, but I've never had occasion to
 use it.  I'm running 64 bit OOo on Linux.

Last June I had to play a video in an Impress file for a class. At the
time I was unable to get my Linux computer to connect properly to the
beamer in the classroom, so I had to use the university's classroom
computer. Fortunately, the university has OOo on all university
computers. But even on the Windows version of OOo I could not get the
video to play in Impress. Luckily the university also had VLC installed
on the classroom computer, and that did the trick. It got me by, and no
one in the class said anything about the fact that I had to switch to a
different program to play the video. Still, it was annoying.
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[users] Another damn Word file problem

2008-12-14 Thread John Jason Jordan
A professor has created a clever way to create brackets for feature
matrices in phonology. Unfortunately, he did it in Word. Here is his
Word file:

http://www.linguistics.ucla.edu/people/hayes/120a/Brackets.htm

I downloaded his brackets.doc file, and I can open it in my OOo 3.0 on
Ubuntu Intrepid x86_64 with Writer. However, the document is blank. I
also tried his instructions, Insert  File, but that also failed.

Can anyone get this to work? Better yet, can anyone think of a way to
do it natively in Writer?

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Re: [users] Dict file in OOo 3.0.?

2008-12-14 Thread Hagar de l'Est

Yes, it has changed, see here: 
http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=74t=67
You've to install them as extensions now.

But your custom dictionary is still valid, just copy it in your new profile 
/wordbook subfolder.

Hagar


Le 14.12.2008 06:04, James Elliott - WA Rural Computers a écrit :



When I upgrade to a new version of OOo I copy my Dict file from the
previous version so that, in the new version, I will have:

1. the Australian dictionary as default dictionary;
2. all the words I have added to the dictionary over the years.

The Dict folder is not where I expected to find it and, in fact, I
have not been able to find it. Has the way OOo handles its dictionaries
changed? How does one copy across previously added words to the OOo 3.0
Dictionary?

Kind regards, James

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Re: [users] Unwanted hyphenation

2008-12-14 Thread JOE Conner

thomas steel wrote:

Another try! Is this the right variant of the OO address to get help? My system has 
suddenly started hyphenating words at the ends of lines  I cannot find the way 
to stop it. Can anyone explain the problem simply? I'd be very grateful. T. Steel
  

Quoting from the help files:
QUOTE


   Automatic hyphenation

Automatic hyphenation inserts hyphens where they are needed in a 
paragraph. This option is only available for paragraph styles and 
individual paragraphs.



 To automatically hyphenate text in a paragraph:

  1.

 Right-click in a paragraph, and choose *Paragraph*.

  2.

 Click the *Text Flow*
 
vnd.sun.star.help://swriter/text/swriter/01/05030200.xhp?Language=en-USSystem=WINUseDB=noDbPAR=swriter
 tab.

  3.

 In the *Hyphenation *area, select the *Automatically* check box.

  4.

 Click *OK*.


 To automatically hyphenate text in multiple paragraphs:

If you want to automatically hyphenate more than one paragraph, use a 
paragraph style.


For example, enable the automatic hyphenation option for the Default 
paragraph style, and then apply the style to the paragraphs that you 
want to hyphenate.


  1.

 Choose *Format - Styles and Formatting*, and then click the
 *Paragraph Styles* icon.

  2.

 Right-click the paragraph style that you want to hyphenate, and
 then choose *Modify*.

  3.

 Click the *Text Flow *tab.

  4.

 In the *Hyphenation* area, select the *Automatically* check box.

  5.

 Click *OK*.

  6.

 Apply the style to the paragraphs that you want to hyphenate.





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Re: [users] Another damn Word file problem

2008-12-14 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 13:40:55 -0800
John Jason Jordan johnjas...@gmail.com dijo:

 A professor has created a clever way to create brackets for feature
 matrices in phonology. Unfortunately, he did it in Word. Here is his
 Word file:
 
 http://www.linguistics.ucla.edu/people/hayes/120a/Brackets.htm

 Can anyone get this to work? Better yet, can anyone think of a way to
 do it natively in Writer?

Wait, I think I know the answer. We can do it in OOo Writer with Insert
 Formula. Or Insert  Field. I just can't figure out exactly how to do it.

A feature matrix looks like (for example):

[   +syllabic   ]
[   -voice  ]
[   +coronal]
[   +nasal  ]

The number of lines varies from one feature to a dozen. In this e-mail
I used individual brackets for each line, but in real work the sides of
the feature matrix should have one tall bracket on each side (like the
x-y example on the professor's web page above).

I'm off to study Writer's Insert  Formula features to see if I can
figure it out. Meantime, if there are any experts here on how to create
tall brackets on the sides of a formula, please share!
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Re: [users] Another damn Word file problem

2008-12-14 Thread JOE Conner

John Jason Jordan wrote:

A professor has created a clever way to create brackets for feature
matrices in phonology. Unfortunately, he did it in Word. Here is his
Word file:

http://www.linguistics.ucla.edu/people/hayes/120a/Brackets.htm

I downloaded his brackets.doc file, and I can open it in my OOo 3.0 on
Ubuntu Intrepid x86_64 with Writer. However, the document is blank. I
also tried his instructions, Insert  File, but that also failed.

Can anyone get this to work? Better yet, can anyone think of a way to
do it natively in Writer?

-
  
I could open it only with notepad, which is not much help as the 
document is mostly unprintable symbols.  Wordpad failed as did OOo.



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Re: [users] Unwanted hyphenation

2008-12-14 Thread thomas steel
Thank you to Gene, Brian, Joe for helping me to clean up the infected 
paragraphs! Two problems remain. 1. I cannot find any trace of the process 
recommended by Brian for 'removing the tick from hyphenation'. 2. An 
unfortunate consequence of 'removing the tick from automatically' was that 
the whole file fell into another font. When I corrected this, all the 134 
endnotes stayed in the wrong font. From bitter experience I know that the 
only way I've found to cure this is to change each note individually, which 
must be an absurd mistake. Can anyone help? TS
- Original Message - 
From: JOE Conner joeconner2...@gmail.com

To: users@openoffice.org
Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 9:56 PM
Subject: Re: [users] Unwanted hyphenation



thomas steel wrote:
Another try! Is this the right variant of the OO address to get help? My 
system has suddenly started hyphenating words at the ends of lines  I 
cannot find the way to stop it. Can anyone explain the problem simply? 
I'd be very grateful. T. Steel



Quoting from the help files:
QUOTE


   Automatic hyphenation

Automatic hyphenation inserts hyphens where they are needed in a
paragraph. This option is only available for paragraph styles and
individual paragraphs.


 To automatically hyphenate text in a paragraph:

  1.

 Right-click in a paragraph, and choose *Paragraph*.

  2.

 Click the *Text Flow*

vnd.sun.star.help://swriter/text/swriter/01/05030200.xhp?Language=en-USSystem=WINUseDB=noDbPAR=swriter
 tab.

  3.

 In the *Hyphenation *area, select the *Automatically* check box.

  4.

 Click *OK*.


 To automatically hyphenate text in multiple paragraphs:

If you want to automatically hyphenate more than one paragraph, use a
paragraph style.

For example, enable the automatic hyphenation option for the Default
paragraph style, and then apply the style to the paragraphs that you
want to hyphenate.

  1.

 Choose *Format - Styles and Formatting*, and then click the
 *Paragraph Styles* icon.

  2.

 Right-click the paragraph style that you want to hyphenate, and
 then choose *Modify*.

  3.

 Click the *Text Flow *tab.

  4.

 In the *Hyphenation* area, select the *Automatically* check box.

  5.

 Click *OK*.

  6.

 Apply the style to the paragraphs that you want to hyphenate.













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[users] Re: Re: WRITER: Search for Special Characters, Invisible Characters, Character Styles, Markers of Type X

2008-12-14 Thread Twayne
 On 13/12/2008 19:07, Twayne wrote:
 We are exploring the search (ctrl-f) function in Writer. We see how
 to search for many things, but not yet for special characters (em
 dash, ellipsis), invisible characters (end of paragraph and the
 like), character styles, or for, say, markers of a given type.

 I do see the checkbox for Search for Styles, but this seems only
 to make available paragraph styles and nothing else.

 I feel certain we are simply missing something. How can we conduct
 such searches?

 Thank you kindly,
 Elchanan


 This has been a great thread; that info will be most useful to me!!

 In the process, I also discovered that you can add external data to
 the Help's Bookmarks features.  Just for grins I copied the URL of
 one of the references links I liked, click the Bookmark icon, pasted
 in that URL, and it shows just fine in the BookMarks field.  So it
 works for anything, not just Help items.  That's new to me, and a
 great find too!

 Twayne



 Erm. I'm not sure what you mean here. Yes you can paste any text
 (including text that looks like a link - Http://...) into the
 Bookmarks pane of the Help system but, later, when you click that
 text in the Bookmarks pane it just takes you to the Help page that
 was visible at the time you did the pasting. It seems to me - could
 be wrong of course - that *you* can somehow get the Help bookmarks to
 act as a sort of mini-browser linking to *external* (web, local
 files,...) URLs. If that's right, please explain how you managed it.


Nope; I did not mean to intimate that you could use it as a 
mini-browser - sorry if I said anything even remotely like that.
I just meant I found it handy to be able to enter, say,  a URL for 
further information on a subject that would appear near the original 
entry.  In other words, if I'd bookmarked, say, Find, I could add a 
Find - see www.somewhere.com as another separate entry as an FYI; not 
that it would take me anywhere. It could just as easily reference to 
another search term, a book, whatever, for reference purposes.  I miss 
being able to annotate Help Files  I see this as sort of a workaround 
to annotating.
  I'm not used to being able to enter anything into BookMarks that 
didn't come from the Help File, and this one lets me; IMO it's a decent 
discovery as I think it can be useful but obviously it's a ymmv thing.

Apologies: It's mundane enough I probably shouldn't even have mentioned 
it.  Didn't realize it was common knowledge.

But here's how I used it, precisely, for the case I was talking about:
The thread said Search for Regular List of Expressions, but when I did 
that, the actual list was still three clicks away from me in further 
links; Find; List of Regular  Expressions does NOT take me to the chart. 
So instead of adding that bookmark, I added 
http://wiki.services.../How_Tos/Regular_Exp..._In Writer  from the List 
of REgular Expressons Table the thread talked about.  Now, when I click 
that, I go directly to the List of Regular Expressions chart/table, 
bypassing the interim steps, and also have a web address on further 
information right there and handy.  THAT is the URL I put in the Title 
bar, but Help links it now to the correct page in HELP for me and not 
the page that LEADS TO the link to the List of Regular Expressions.  Am 
I making any sense at all?
   IMO it's a way of annotating the Help file.  Sorry if I'm making this 
more confusing than it needs to be.

Regards,

Twayne




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Re: [users] Another damn Word file problem

2008-12-14 Thread Drew Jensen

Wait, I think I know the answer. We can do it in OOo Writer with Insert
 Formula. Or Insert  Field. I just can't figure out exactly how to do it.

A feature matrix looks like (for example):

   [   +syllabic   ]
   [   -voice  ]
   [   +coronal]
   [   +nasal  ]


Open a Writer file
then
InsertObjectFormula
In the bottom part of the window that opens copy / paste this.

left [ stack{ +syllabic # -voice # +coronal # +nasal} right ]

To understand what just happened, see this documentation:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOoAuthors_User_Manual/Writer_Guide/Math_commands_-_Reference

HTH

Drew



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[users] Re: Another damn Word file problem

2008-12-14 Thread NoOp
On 12/14/2008 01:56 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote:
 On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 13:40:55 -0800
 John Jason Jordan johnjas...@gmail.com dijo:
 
 A professor has created a clever way to create brackets for feature
 matrices in phonology. Unfortunately, he did it in Word. Here is his
 Word file:
 
 http://www.linguistics.ucla.edu/people/hayes/120a/Brackets.htm
 
 Can anyone get this to work? Better yet, can anyone think of a way to
 do it natively in Writer?
 
 Wait, I think I know the answer. We can do it in OOo Writer with Insert
 Formula. Or Insert  Field. I just can't figure out exactly how to do it.
 
 A feature matrix looks like (for example):
 
   [   +syllabic   ]
   [   -voice  ]
   [   +coronal]
   [   +nasal  ]
 
 The number of lines varies from one feature to a dozen. In this e-mail
 I used individual brackets for each line, but in real work the sides of
 the feature matrix should have one tall bracket on each side (like the
 x-y example on the professor's web page above).
 
 I'm off to study Writer's Insert  Formula features to see if I can
 figure it out. Meantime, if there are any experts here on how to create
 tall brackets on the sides of a formula, please share!

No help here?
http://documentation.openoffice.org/manuals/oooauthors2/0111GS-GettingStartedWithMath.pdf



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Re: [users] Another [...] Word file problem

2008-12-14 Thread Brian Barker

At 13:56 14/12/2008 -0800, John Jason Jordan wrote:
Wait, I think I know the answer. We can do it in OOo Writer with 
Insert  Formula. Or Insert  Field. I just can't figure out exactly 
how to do it.


A feature matrix looks like (for example):

[   +syllabic   ]
[   -voice  ]
[   +coronal]
[   +nasal  ]

The number of lines varies from one feature to a dozen. In this 
e-mail I used individual brackets for each line, but in real work 
the sides of the feature matrix should have one tall bracket on each 
side (like the x-y example on the professor's web page above).


I'm off to study Writer's Insert  Formula features to see if I can 
figure it out. Meantime, if there are any experts here on how to 
create tall brackets on the sides of a formula, please share!


o  Go to Insert | Object  | Formula.
o  In the Math windows at the bottom of the screen, enter:
 left[ stack{+syllabic # -voice # +coronal # +nasal} right]
o  Click back in the main window.

I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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Re: [users] Unwanted hyphenation

2008-12-14 Thread Brian Barker

At 22:10 14/12/2008 +, Thomas Steel wrote:
Two problems remain. 1. I cannot find any trace of the process 
recommended by Brian for 'removing the tick from hyphenation'.


I'm not surprised: I said ... remove the tick from Automatically.

2. An unfortunate consequence of 'removing the tick from 
automatically' was that the whole file fell into another font. When 
I corrected this, all the 134 endnotes stayed in the wrong font. 
From bitter experience I know that the only way I've found to cure 
this is to change each note individually, which must be an absurd 
mistake. Can anyone help?


Not without knowing whether you needed to disable automatic 
hyphenation for paragraphs or for paragraph styles (or both?).  (And 
possibly not even then!)


Brian Barker


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[users] Cannot pass arguments from Calc to user-defined function

2008-12-14 Thread cyg
Using OO 2.4 in Windows 2k.

This works:
function GROWTH()
GROWTH = test
end function

In calc, I put =GROWTH() in a cell and it says test as expected.

This doesn't work:
function GROWTH(happy)
GROWTH = test
end function

In calc, I put =GROWTH(J52) in a cell and it says #VALUE. J52 is a cell
containing an integer value.

The only thing that has changed is the presence of an argument, but the
value isn't even used. Therefore I'm stumped as it seems like I simply
cannot have arguments in my function. Probably I am making some newbie
mistake. I have tried following tutorials and I do not see how my code is
any different from theirs.




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Re: [users] Another [...] Word file problem

2008-12-14 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 23:06:02 +
Brian Barker b.m.bar...@btinternet.com dijo:

 I'm off to study Writer's Insert  Formula features to see if I can 
 figure it out. Meantime, if there are any experts here on how to 
 create tall brackets on the sides of a formula, please share!

 o  Go to Insert | Object  | Formula.
 o  In the Math windows at the bottom of the screen, enter:
   left[ stack{+syllabic # -voice # +coronal # +nasal} right]
 o  Click back in the main window.

Thanks to Brian, Drew and NoOp for the suggestions. I've got it handled
now. 

Interestingly, I discovered that if I use a - (hyphen) in front of a
feature it does not appear in the feature bracket. Nor does it appear
if I use a real minus sign using the numeric keypad. I did get it to
appear when I inserted the character from Insert  Special Character.
However, even then the words did not line up because the minus sign was
narrower than the plus sign. I finally figured out that what worked
perfectly was an en-dash (Unicode hex 2013). 
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Re: [users] Another [...] Word file problem

2008-12-14 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 16:23:40 -0800
John Jason Jordan johnjas...@gmail.com dijo:

 Thanks to Brian, Drew and NoOp for the suggestions. I've got it handled
 now. 

Dang it, there's one more problem. Every time I create a new feature
bracket the font is set to Times New Roman, italic. I have to double
click on the feature bracket to get it in editing mode, then go into
the Format  Fonts dialog box and laboriously change all the instances
of Times to the font I use for my documents, and uncheck the italics
box. What a pain.

I've looked all over but I can't find a place to change the default
font for fomulas. Please tell me it's there somewhere. Having to do
this over again every time I create a feature bracket is a pain.
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Re: [users] Cannot pass arguments from Calc to user-defined function

2008-12-14 Thread Brian Barker

At 15:48 14/12/2008 -0800, C Y Augin wrote:

Using OO 2.4 in Windows 2k.

This works:
function GROWTH()
GROWTH = test
end function

In calc, I put =GROWTH() in a cell and it says test as expected.

This doesn't work:
function GROWTH(happy)
GROWTH = test
end function

In calc, I put =GROWTH(J52) in a cell and it says #VALUE. J52 is a 
cell containing an integer value.


The only thing that has changed is the presence of an argument, but 
the value isn't even used. Therefore I'm stumped as it seems like I 
simply cannot have arguments in my function. Probably I am making 
some newbie mistake. I have tried following tutorials and I do not 
see how my code is any different from theirs.


One obvious problem is that there exists a built-in (array) function 
in Calc called GROWTH (Calculates the points of an exponential 
trend in an array).  What happens if you choose an alternative name 
for your function?


I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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Re: [users] Another [...] Word file problem

2008-12-14 Thread Brian Barker

At 16:23 14/12/2008 -0800, John Jason Jordan wrote:
Interestingly, I discovered that if I use a - (hyphen) in front of a 
feature it does not appear in the feature bracket. Nor does it 
appear if I use a real minus sign using the numeric keypad. I did 
get it to appear when I inserted the character from Insert  Special 
Character. However, even then the words did not line up because the 
minus sign was narrower than the plus sign. I finally figured out 
that what worked perfectly was an en-dash (Unicode hex 2013).


For what it's worth, it works simply for me (in my 3.0 for Windows 
XP) using the symbol from the keyboard.  Is it a font problem?


At 16:45 14/12/2008 -0800, John Jason Jordan wrote:
Dang it, there's one more problem. Every time I create a new feature 
bracket the font is set to Times New Roman, italic. I have to double 
click on the feature bracket to get it in editing mode, then go into 
the Format  Fonts dialog box and laboriously change all the 
instances of Times to the font I use for my documents, and uncheck 
the italics box. What a pain.


I've looked all over but I can't find a place to change the default 
font for fomulas. Please tell me it's there somewhere. Having to do 
this over again every time I create a feature bracket is a pain.


After you have used the Modify button to change the fonts as you 
prefer, press the Default button immediately below it.


Brian Barker


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[users] Re: Cannot pass arguments from Calc to user-defined function

2008-12-14 Thread kev

Brian Barker b.m.bar...@btinternet.com wrote in message
news:9012.5375813388$1229302...@news.gmane.org...
 One obvious problem is that there exists a built-in (array) function
 in Calc called GROWTH (Calculates the points of an exponential
 trend in an array).  What happens if you choose an alternative name
 for your function?

 I trust this helps.

 Brian Barker

Well... damn. There it is. Thanks.




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Re: [users] Dict file in OOo 3.0.?

2008-12-14 Thread James Elliott - WA Rural Computers
Thank you very much for your prompt reply, Hagar, but I am still at a loss 
as to what to do.


I have read your tutorial but the following does not make sense to me:

If you want to use custom files or old ones not yet packaged as an 
extension, you can use an existing dictionary extension: open the .oxt file 
with an archive manager (it's a mere zipped file), remove the language 
files, replace them with yours and then edit the dictionary.xcu file to 
replace the locales and file names, edit also the description.xml file to 
make it different for the extensions list in the manager and install that 
custom extension.


I understand that I can download an Australian dictionary, but I am at a 
loss as to how to include all the additional words I have added over the 
years.  Even though I have an IT degree I would appreciate some help in 
layman's terms, as I am not too bright and also do not have much time to 
devote to OOo configuration during my busy work day.


Many thanks

James

James Elliott BSc(WA) MAACB MAIMS GradDipCompSt(Murdoch) CertCompEng 
CertTradeSt Cert4TAA(TAFE) TradeCert(WAGovt)  JP

e-mail:  james.elli...@wn.com.au


- Original Message - 
From: Hagar de l'Est hagar_de_l...@openoffice.org

To: users@openoffice.org
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 6:46 AM
Subject: Re: [users] Dict file in OOo 3.0.?


Yes, it has changed, see here: 
http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=74t=67

You've to install them as extensions now.

But your custom dictionary is still valid, just copy it in your new 
profile /wordbook subfolder.


Hagar


Le 14.12.2008 06:04, James Elliott - WA Rural Computers a écrit :



When I upgrade to a new version of OOo I copy my Dict file from the
previous version so that, in the new version, I will have:

1. the Australian dictionary as default dictionary;
2. all the words I have added to the dictionary over the years.

The Dict folder is not where I expected to find it and, in fact, I
have not been able to find it. Has the way OOo handles its dictionaries
changed? How does one copy across previously added words to the OOo 3.0
Dictionary?

Kind regards, James

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[users] Writer 3.0 Unstable?

2008-12-14 Thread John Jason Jordan
It crashes at random on my Ubuntu Intrepid x86_64 computer. 

I have version 3.0.0, OOO300mp (Build 9358). Is there a better version?

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Re: [users] Another [...] Word file problem

2008-12-14 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 00:58:04 +
Brian Barker b.m.bar...@btinternet.com dijo:

 I've looked all over but I can't find a place to change the default 
 font for fomulas. Please tell me it's there somewhere. Having to do 
 this over again every time I create a feature bracket is a pain.
 
 After you have used the Modify button to change the fonts as you 
 prefer, press the Default button immediately below it.

Ah! There it is!

Thanks a bunch. 
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[users] PDF export in 3.0

2008-12-14 Thread John Jason Jordan
I could swear I have seen messages on this e-list regarding exporting
to PDF from OOo 3.0. Of course, I wasn't using 3.0 until just today, so
I didn't save anything about 3.0. I can search in the archives, but the
search function doesn't seem to allow sorting by date. So I get pages
and pages of posts in random date order back to 2002.

I am using 3.0 on Ubuntu Intrepid x86_64, installed from the download
file. I have used OOo since 0.9 and I have never had a problem with a
PDF exported from OOo. 

However, today I exported a simple text file to PDF and Adobe Reader
8.1 prints garbage. Okular prints it, but its print dialog box is
messed up - lots of bugs. Evince, the least fully featured PDF reader I
have, prints it just fine. And all three of them display it fine on
screen. It's just that Adobe Reader prints stray garbled characters
randomly on the page and that's all.

I am printing to a Laserjet 4M+, which has both PCL5 and genuine Adobe
PostScript Level 2. The output from Adobe Reader is messed up
regardless of which driver I use, although the mess is slightly
different.

Somewhere there has to be a bug report list or some documentation. Can
someone point me to it?

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[users] Re: PDF export in 3.0

2008-12-14 Thread NoOp
On 12/14/2008 07:01 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote:
 I could swear I have seen messages on this e-list regarding exporting
 to PDF from OOo 3.0. Of course, I wasn't using 3.0 until just today, so
 I didn't save anything about 3.0. I can search in the archives, but the
 search function doesn't seem to allow sorting by date. So I get pages
 and pages of posts in random date order back to 2002.
 
 I am using 3.0 on Ubuntu Intrepid x86_64, installed from the download
 file. I have used OOo since 0.9 and I have never had a problem with a
 PDF exported from OOo. 
 
 However, today I exported a simple text file to PDF and Adobe Reader
 8.1 prints garbage. Okular prints it, but its print dialog box is
 messed up - lots of bugs. Evince, the least fully featured PDF reader I
 have, prints it just fine. And all three of them display it fine on
 screen. It's just that Adobe Reader prints stray garbled characters
 randomly on the page and that's all.
 
 I am printing to a Laserjet 4M+, which has both PCL5 and genuine Adobe
 PostScript Level 2. The output from Adobe Reader is messed up
 regardless of which driver I use, although the mess is slightly
 different.
 
 Somewhere there has to be a bug report list or some documentation. Can
 someone point me to it?

Nope. Works just fine from here (OOo standard 3.0).



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[users] OOo 3.0 File Close exits application

2008-12-14 Thread John Jason Jordan
In OOo 2.4.1 there was an X at the right top corner of the document
window as well as an X in the right top corner of the application
window. Clicking on the one in the document window closed the open
document leaving the application running. Or you could also close the
document window and leave the application running by going to File 
Close.

In 3.0 the X in the document window is missing. There is still a File 
Close (as well as File  Exit), but clicking on File  Close is the
same as clicking on File  Exit; that is, it shuts down the
application. Also, you can go to Window  Close Window, which should
close the document window and leave the application running, but it
also closes the application.

Is it a bug that File  Close exits the application? Or is this an
interface option that I can fix to make it the way it was in 2.4.1? Or
am I stuck with this? 

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Re: [users] Dict file in OOo 3.0.?

2008-12-14 Thread Brian Barker

At 10:15 15/12/2008 +0900, James Elliott wrote:
I understand that I can download an Australian dictionary, but I am 
at a loss as to how to include all the additional words I have added 
over the years.


My added words carried over easily when I upgraded from 2.4.1 to 3.0 
for Windows XP, though I forget the exact process.  A copy of 
standard.dic has appeared in the correct new folder.  I do have a 
note that the first time I ran 3.0 there was an option to Transfer 
personal data: this was ticked by default.


But if all else fails there is a crude workaround:
o  Open your existing standard.dic file (is that where your words 
are?) in Writer (or open it in a plain-text editor and copy and paste 
the material into a Writer document).
o  If necessary, use Writer's Find  Replace to remove spurious 
characters and leave a clean list of words - though you may not need 
to do this.
o  Now run the spelling checker, selecting Add for each rejected word 
that you still want to have in your dictionary.

o  Discard the document.

I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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Re: [users] OOo 3.0 File Close exits application

2008-12-14 Thread Brian Barker

At 22:24 14/12/2008 -0800, John Jason Jordan wrote:
In OOo 2.4.1 there was an X at the right top corner of the document 
window as well as an X in the right top corner of the application 
window. Clicking on the one in the document window closed the open 
document leaving the application running. Or you could also close 
the document window and leave the application running by going to File  Close.


In 3.0 the X in the document window is missing. There is still a 
File  Close (as well as File  Exit), but clicking on File  Close 
is the same as clicking on File  Exit; that is, it shuts down the 
application. Also, you can go to Window  Close Window, which should 
close the document window and leave the application running, but it 
also closes the application.


Is it a bug that File  Close exits the application? Or is this an 
interface option that I can fix to make it the way it was in 2.4.1? 
Or am I stuck with this?


What you describe for 2.4.1 is exactly how 3.0 also works for me 
(under Windows XP).  Note that application in this context means 
OpenOffice, not just Writer or Calc or whatever.  So if you close 
your last spreadsheet but still have a text document open, for 
example, you may think that Calc has closed whereas the fact is that 
OpenOffice, in its guise of Writer, is still running.  (Remember that 
OpenOffice - unlike some others - is an integrated suite, not a 
collection of separate applications.)


You seem to be using Linux: does the Linux version work 
differently?  If not, is it possible that you have a rogue instance 
of OpenOffice that has not terminated properly?  I'm guessing here, 
but could that be confusing your system into thinking that OpenOffice 
is indeed still running?  What happens if you restart your system?


I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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Re: [users] Writer 3.0 Unstable?

2008-12-14 Thread Jean-Baptiste Faure

Le 15.12.2008 02:17, John Jason Jordan a écrit :
It crashes at random on my Ubuntu Intrepid x86_64 computer. 


I have version 3.0.0, OOO300mp (Build 9358). Is there a better version?


  

Hi,

you may try to rename (do not remove it in case you want to restore it) 
your profile directory .openoffice.org (hidden directory) to force OOo 
to create a new one.


hope this helps.
JBF

--
Jean-Baptiste Faure
French N-L project Lead
http://fr.openoffice.org

Seuls des formats ouverts peuvent assurer la pérennité de vos documents.



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Re: [users] OOo 3.0 File Close exits application

2008-12-14 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 07:03:17 +
Brian Barker b.m.bar...@btinternet.com dijo:

 Is it a bug that File  Close exits the application? Or is this an 
 interface option that I can fix to make it the way it was in 2.4.1? 
 Or am I stuck with this?
 
 What you describe for 2.4.1 is exactly how 3.0 also works for me 
 (under Windows XP).  Note that application in this context means 
 OpenOffice, not just Writer or Calc or whatever.  So if you close 
 your last spreadsheet but still have a text document open, for 
 example, you may think that Calc has closed whereas the fact is that 
 OpenOffice, in its guise of Writer, is still running.  (Remember that 
 OpenOffice - unlike some others - is an integrated suite, not a 
 collection of separate applications.)
 
 You seem to be using Linux: does the Linux version work 
 differently?  If not, is it possible that you have a rogue instance 
 of OpenOffice that has not terminated properly?  I'm guessing here, 
 but could that be confusing your system into thinking that OpenOffice 
 is indeed still running?  What happens if you restart your system?

Yes, I am using Linux, but the Linux version is not supposed to work
differently; that is, the Windows and Linux versions always worked the
same in 2.4.1.

Now that you suggest that there may be a rogue instance of OOo running,
that may be part of the problem. When I launch Writer (I never launch
the splash screen, I launch only the individual app that I want;
usually Writer) it seems to launch and then nothing appears on the
screen. If I look in my System Monitor I see that soffice.bin is
running. But in order to get the Writer window to appear I have to
click on the launch item a second time. And when that window appears
the Close Document options close the entire window, not just the
document. 

In fact, OOo is still running, it's just not visible. 

I'm pretty sure this is the way it worked on 2.4.1 also. That is,
opening Writer started OOo. The difference is that in 2.4.1 when I
closed the document a program window remained. And if I went to File 
Exit in the program window it did completely shut down OOo. Now when I
close the document everything disappears so I have no idea whether OOo
is still running or not, save opening System Monitor. And there is no
way to shut down OOo short of going to System Monitor and killing it.

I don't know if this is by design. If so I don't know whose idea it
was, but it wasn't a good one.
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