Re: [users] Re: Water Marks
Manuel Barros skrev: Thank you very much to Twayne, and to all of you who made a great effort to help me. I am trying to solve my small problem using all the tips that you have given and as soon as I will succeed, I will let you know. Hope my English can be understood. Thanks once again regards. Manuel Lisbon, Portugal Ao reencaminhar esta mensagem, por favor: 1. Apague o meu e-mail e o meu nome. 2. Apague também os endereços dos amigos antes de reenviar. 3. Encaminhe como cópia oculta (Bcc) aos SEUS destinatários. Agindo sempre assim dificultaremos a disseminação de vírus, spams e banners -Mensagem original- De: Twayne [mailto:twa...@twaynesdomain.com] Enviada: terça-feira, 6 de Abril de 2010 19:06 Para: users@openoffice.org Assunto: [users] Re: Water Marks In news:004401cad510$51716760$f45436...@com, Manuel Barros cruzbar...@gmail.com typed: Andy, please find attached the image I want to convert to water mark. Thanks regards. Manuel Lisbon, Portugal All that really needs to be done, if I now understand this, is to add transparency to the image. That means it has to be a .gif or .png. Transparency can set it to be anything from invisible to opaque or anywhere in between so it doesn't block any text, etc. also on the page. I'd guess about 30% transparence would be a good place to start. It's best, IMO, to set up the transparency in a separate image editor like PSP or any that can handle transparency. HTH, Twayne` -Mensagem original- De: RA Brown [mailto:rabr...@the-martin-byrd.net] Enviada: segunda-feira, 5 de Abril de 2010 20:51 Para: users@openoffice.org Assunto: Re: [users] Water Marks Manuel Barros wrote: Many thanks for your answer, John. Please let me explain a little more: I Have a color image full page and I want to revert it on Water mark. Nothing happens when I follow your suggestion. May be I am not doing it right... Regards Manuel Lisbon, Portugal Manual, I do not understand. You say nothing happens. Do you mean the image is not imported? Send direct to me a copy of the image and I will send back a Writer document with it embedded. Andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org Nenhum vmrus encontrado nessa mensagem recebida. Verificado por AVG - www.avgbrasil.com.br Versco: 9.0.800 / Banco de dados de vmrus: 271.1.1/2792 - Data de Langamento: 04/05/10 07:32:00 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org Nenhum vírus encontrado nessa mensagem recebida. Verificado por AVG - www.avgbrasil.com.br Versão: 9.0.800 / Banco de dados de vírus: 271.1.1/2794 - Data de Lançamento: 04/06/10 07:32:00 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org I haven't read all the answers in this thread, but maybe you don't need to make the watermark in the file. Maybe you can do it in your printers options. My printers during the years (4 different Canon's) all have had the ability to make watermarks when printing. Erling Larsen -- Til uvedkommende, der læser med: Der er ingen grund til at læse min mail. Jeg har intet at gøre med FARC, al-Jihad, al-Qaida, Hamas, Hizb al-Mujahidin eller ETA. Jeg har aldrig gjort Zakat, går ikke ind for Istishad, har ikke lavet en bilbombe eller kernevåben og jeg ved dårligt nok, hvad Al Manar og 6om6a betyder. Men tak for den udviste interesse. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Writer: do not show =2 lines of text body at end of page
In Writer, I have a document with this structure: Heading 1 Heading 2 Text Body Heading 2 Text Body Heading 2 Text Body I need for page breaks not to occur after a Heading and not after the first or second line of a Text Body. In other words, the end of a page should never be a heading, and the end of a page should never have only one or two lines of Text body. How is this configured? Should I post a sample document to clarify? Thanks! -- Dotan Cohen http://bido.com http://what-is-what.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Writer: do not show =2 lines of text body at end of page
On Wednesday 07 April 2010 20:46, Dotan Cohen wrote: In Writer, I have a document with this structure: Heading 1 Heading 2 Text Body Heading 2 Text Body Heading 2 Text Body I need for page breaks not to occur after a Heading and not after the first or second line of a Text Body. In other words, the end of a page should never be a heading, and the end of a page should never have only one or two lines of Text body. How is this configured? Should I post a sample document to clarify? In English the term is Widows and Orphans. A widow is a short line at the end of a paragraph which appears on the next page/column. An orphan is the first line of a paragraph printed alone at the bottom of the previous page. The control for this can be set for any paragraph style. To set an existing document in arears: * Highlight All - [Ctrl][A] * Format - Paragraphs -- Text flow tab HTH -- Michael - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] [moderated] Scribus and OpenOffiece.org
On 4/6/10 9:12 PM, Drew Jensen wrote: PDF is IMO the primary file format used by Scribus. Scribus IMO supports pdf more deeply then does OpenOffice.org. A few times a week we get threads with misperceptions about PDF. PDF is a for the terminal stage of a document's life cycle. From PDF, it can go two places: the printer or the bit bucket. We could save a lot of time and grief for the users or the list to get the word out that the original documents must be saved and that if all they have is the PDF, then they have lost the document, it is gone and not coming back. Gone, gone, gone beyond, completely gone beyond, disablement, bail... ;) Importing PDF is really a form of disaster mitigation and in many cases provides only an uneditable B.L.O.B. to embed in another file. Mac and Linux desktops have good PDF export and it is clear that it is export. So that helps. Well, Draw is just a drawing package, and OpenOffice.org is just an suite of office applications but together they can do most of what used to require a Desktop Publishing system. One DTP feature missing from OOo Draw is the ability for text to flow between text frames. QuarkXPress would be overkill for most users. The last few times I've had to send things to a commercial printer they've wanted SVG, but would begrudgingly accept encapsulated PDF. I didn't get a look at the software used, it would be useful to know, but it would help if Adobe's products supported ODF. ... There seems to be a steady stream of folks asking about MS ... Some is legit. Some is just trolling / shilling. So if they just ask about MS... If they ask anything about MS (and are legitimate) then it is always necessary to ask clarifying questions about what is it they are really trying to do. However, the individual will likely have difficulty expressing it or may speak Microserf which uses its own words instead of industry standard nomenclature. Regards /Lars - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Writer: do not show =2 lines of text body at end of page
In English the term is Widows and Orphans. A widow is a short line at the end of a paragraph which appears on the next page/column. An orphan is the first line of a paragraph printed alone at the bottom of the previous page. The control for this can be set for any paragraph style. To set an existing document in arears: * Highlight All - [Ctrl][A] * Format - Paragraphs -- Text flow tab Thank you Michael! I found the Widow and Orphan options, however even with the options checked and configured for 2 lines, the document still has Widows and Orphans of one line each. Furthermore, when applied to a document with two columns (which the document in question needs to be) whenever I press OK and reopen Format - Paragraphs - Text flow the Do not split paragraph is rechecked and the Widow and Orphan control boxen are empty. This in on OOo 3.1 on Kubuntu 9.10. Shall I send the document? -- Dotan Cohen http://bido.com http://what-is-what.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Writer: do not show =2 lines of text body at end of page
Actually, it seems that even with a single-column layout the Do not split paragraph box is rechecked and the Widow and Orphan control boxen are empty. -- Dotan Cohen http://bido.com http://what-is-what.com The Beatles - 2000 - 1.odt Description: application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] [moderated] Scribus and OpenOffiece.org
On 7 April 2010 10:54, Lars Nooden larsnoo...@openoffice.org wrote: On 4/6/10 9:12 PM, Drew Jensen wrote: PDF is IMO the primary file format used by Scribus. Scribus IMO supports pdf more deeply then does OpenOffice.org. A few times a week we get threads with misperceptions about PDF. PDF is a for the terminal stage of a document's life cycle. From PDF, it can go two places: the printer or the bit bucket. We could save a lot of time and grief for the users or the list to get the word out that the original documents must be saved and that if all they have is the PDF, then they have lost the document, it is gone and not coming back. Gone, gone, gone beyond, completely gone beyond, disablement, bail... ;) Importing PDF is really a form of disaster mitigation and in many cases provides only an uneditable B.L.O.B. to embed in another file. Mac and Linux desktops have good PDF export and it is clear that it is export. So that helps. Well, Draw is just a drawing package, and OpenOffice.org is just an suite of office applications but together they can do most of what used to require a Desktop Publishing system. One DTP feature missing from OOo Draw is the ability for text to flow between text frames. QuarkXPress would be overkill for most users. The last few times I've had to send things to a commercial printer they've wanted SVG, but would begrudgingly accept encapsulated PDF. I didn't get a look at the software used, it would be useful to know, but it would help if Adobe's products supported ODF. ... There seems to be a steady stream of folks asking about MS ... Some is legit. Some is just trolling / shilling. So if they just ask about MS... If they ask anything about MS (and are legitimate) then it is always necessary to ask clarifying questions about what is it they are really trying to do. However, the individual will likely have difficulty expressing it or may speak Microserf which uses its own words instead of industry standard nomenclature. Regards /Lars There are probably many reasons, apart from disaster mitigation, why I may want to convert a PDF document into an editable form. The most obvious is that the document isn't mine but I nevertheless want to modify it in some way and re-publish it. For example, I may want to re-publish it after converting parts of it into links pointing at other, possibly as yet unwritten, documents. Or I may want to incorporate [large] parts of it in a new document which I plan to publish. In either case, converting the PDF to an editable format seems to me to be quite a legitimate requirement. Having said that, shall we now adjourn to the discussion list? Please. -- Harold Fuchs London, England Please reply *only* to users@openoffice.org
Re: [users] [moderated] Scribus and OpenOffiece.org
On 4/7/10 1:25 PM, Harold Fuchs wrote: ...In either case, converting the PDF to an editable format seems to me to be quite a legitimate requirement. Only until the format is understood, after that, no. The purpose of PDF is for display, not editing. If you want to edit the document, keep the original. If you don't have it, contact the author and request a copy. Formats are tools and like with any tool set there is the matter of choosing the right tool for the job. The nature of a PDF is that it probably does not contain anything that you can still edit. In many cases, the even the glyphs are converted to outlines so even the text is gone. If you don't have the file that was used to create the PDF, then it is necessary to face the fact that the original is gone. OOo does a great job of exporting to PDF, but you have to keep the original around if you wish to continue editing. /Lars - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] [moderated] Scribus and OpenOffiece.org
Harold Fuchs wrote: On 7 April 2010 10:54, Lars Nooden larsnoo...@openoffice.org wrote: On 4/6/10 9:12 PM, Drew Jensen wrote: PDF is IMO the primary file format used by Scribus. Scribus IMO supports pdf more deeply then does OpenOffice.org. A few times a week we get threads with misperceptions about PDF. PDF is a for the terminal stage of a document's life cycle. From PDF, it can go two places: the printer or the bit bucket. We could save a lot of time and grief for the users or the list to get the word out that the original documents must be saved and that if all they have is the PDF, then they have lost the document, it is gone and not coming back. Gone, gone, gone beyond, completely gone beyond, disablement, bail... ;) Importing PDF is really a form of disaster mitigation and in many cases provides only an uneditable B.L.O.B. to embed in another file. Mac and Linux desktops have good PDF export and it is clear that it is export. So that helps. Well, Draw is just a drawing package, and OpenOffice.org is just an suite of office applications but together they can do most of what used to require a Desktop Publishing system. One DTP feature missing from OOo Draw is the ability for text to flow between text frames. QuarkXPress would be overkill for most users. The last few times I've had to send things to a commercial printer they've wanted SVG, but would begrudgingly accept encapsulated PDF. I didn't get a look at the software used, it would be useful to know, but it would help if Adobe's products supported ODF. ... There seems to be a steady stream of folks asking about MS ... Some is legit. Some is just trolling / shilling. So if they just ask about MS... If they ask anything about MS (and are legitimate) then it is always necessary to ask clarifying questions about what is it they are really trying to do. However, the individual will likely have difficulty expressing it or may speak Microserf which uses its own words instead of industry standard nomenclature. Regards /Lars There are probably many reasons, apart from disaster mitigation, why I may want to convert a PDF document into an editable form. The most obvious is that the document isn't mine but I nevertheless want to modify it in some way and re-publish it. For example, I may want to re-publish it after converting parts of it into links pointing at other, possibly as yet unwritten, documents. Or I may want to incorporate [large] parts of it in a new document which I plan to publish. In either case, converting the PDF to an editable format seems to me to be quite a legitimate requirement. Having said that, shall we now adjourn to the discussion list? Please. There are software out there that will take a PDF and convert it back to Word format, but most are paid. There are web sites that do it as well. Linux seems to have a PDF editor [at least Ubuntu lists one someplace], but I have not tried it yet. Windows and Mac may be a dry zone for now. The only way I really do the re-editing is copy/paste the text and graphics into a new document, but this way you loose the original formatting. Yes, PDF was originally was for the final publication of a document. Now people need to take the PDFs sent to them and re-edit if for some reason, since it was the only format sent to them. I do not download and use any MS Word docs unless I trust the owner and their system. I still will scan them for viruses. PDF was the format where you would not have to worry about getting nasties included with the documents. Now that has changed as well. Now they are warning about the ability of PDF to save an attached executable file/program so you could get viruses with them. This is due to the newer abilities of the PDF standards of the format, so I have read. I myself have come across cases where I have a saved PDF finished file, and I cannot find the original ODF document that I used to create it with. I do not export to PDF, but use doPDF as a PDF printer on Windows and CUPS PDF printing on Ubuntu. This way I a printing to the PDF file instead of paper. I have not used OOo's PDF export much since I found the PDF printer options for my systems, so I do not know how they compare. Yes, there should be some free [and easy] methods of converting PDF back to an editable document. MS Word 2000/2003 .doc format would be OK since OOo reads/writes that format very well, and MS users will have no troubles excepting it as well. It would be nice to see converters go directly to ODF formats instead of MS ones, since ODF is the International default, while MS is just a want-to-be. Also, for those who save documents in PDFs, I use the PDF printing mostly for making a copy of a web page that contains a transaction, like ordering supplies or paying a bill. This way I have a record of the web page to keep for my records if any problems come up or just to show what
Re: [users] [moderated] Scribus and OpenOffiece.org
On 07-Apr-10 14:43, webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote: Yes, there should be some free [and easy] methods of converting PDF back to an editable document. MS Word 2000/2003 .doc format would be OK since OOo reads/writes that format very well, and MS users will have no troubles excepting it as well. It would be nice to see converters go directly to ODF formats instead of MS ones, since ODF is the International default, while MS is just a want-to-be. In a sense, what you're wishing for already exists. http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/project/pdfimport is not just for importing PDF into Draw fro minor editing. This extension also adds in the Hybrid PDF functionality. A hybrid PDF/ODF file is a PDF file that contains an embedded ODF source file. Hybrid PDF/ODF files will be opened in OpenOffice.org as an ODF file without any layout changes. So, if you use OpenOffice.org plus this extension, and create Hybrid PDFs, you will be able to open the PDF and edit the embedded ODF file and export it again as a Hybrid PDF. C. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Your CD
salim sayegh wrote: Hello, I have question please: I bought your CD and downloaded the info but when i receive any file, i cant open it thru your program. What should i do inorder to be able to open pdf and others Thank you Salim Sayegh First, you didn't have to buy it. OpenOffice.org is a free download from www.openoffice.org. While OOo can create PDF files, it does not open them. For that you need a PDF reader, such as Adobe. What other file types are you having problems with? Are there any error messages? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] PDF Import capability (was RE: Scribus and OpenOffiece.org )
Lars Nooden [mailto:larsnoo...@openoffice.org] suggested: On 4/7/10 1:25 PM, Harold Fuchs wrote: ...In either case, converting the PDF to an editable format seems to me to be quite a legitimate requirement. Only until the format is understood, after that, no. The purpose of PDF is for display, not editing. If you want to edit the document, keep the original. If you don't have it, contact the author and request a copy. Formats are tools and like with any tool set there is the matter of choosing the right tool for the job. The nature of a PDF is that it probably does not contain anything that you can still edit. In many cases, the even the glyphs are converted to outlines so even the text is gone. If you don't have the file that was used to create the PDF, then it is necessary to face the fact that the original is gone. OOo does a great job of exporting to PDF, but you have to keep the original around if you wish to continue editing. Lars, My crystal ball says that you've never worked for a company that has bought/merged another company. It's common for companies to have repositories of released documents - as PDF or however they are distributed to customers and the public. It's also common to have the original source documents in the possession of the techwriters who created them. They might be lovingly backed up to portable media, or even to company servers, and the locations of the source files (and their backups) are known to the writer and to his/her manager[s]. Then the smaller company gets bought. Certain people are offered positions with the new-owner company... others are let go, offices are closed or moved, say from Australia to the USA. Months later (perhaps longer), after the amalgamation and streamlining, it's time to make a new release of some of the products of the former smaller company. The source code and the hardware designs are all available to the engineers. The assigned techwriter has... wait for it... wait for it... nothing but a mess of PDFs. Nobody can find the source docs. The former writers are long gone, perhaps living in the streets and unreachable. The former manager is now clawing his way up some other corporate employer hierarchy or has taken his severance package to start an emu ranch, and is equally unavailable... even if he could remember where to look for his former minions' backup files on servers that have been de-commissioned. PDF it is then. Dozens of them. No source text. No source drawings or screen-caps or photos. Everybody who's a middle-to-senior exec knows that if you've got the docs (the PDFs in the released-product repository), you've got the docs, and some grunt-labor techwriter will handle the details. Or they'll just rewrite 'em from scratch. It's not hard or time-consuming to write multi-hundred-page reference and toolkit manuals if you've got the product, is it? Piece of cake! Been there. Done that. By the third time, I was being proactive and begging to have the source files secured as an early step in the amalgamation - but it's still hard to train executives in some other country when they are dealing with big legal and fiscal issues of acquiring an entire company from a third country. Also, when a multi-division company is being acquired by another multi-division company, it is not always clear until well into the process which of the acquired divisions will be merged into which of the acquiring company's divisions... or just sold off. All of that to say, you have to know where the source files are, what they were called, how they were organized, and you have to have a way to contact the original authors, sometimes beyond the grave. Quite often, not possible. It's not like in government or some rarified areas of academia. By the way, aren't there signs - in recent versions of Acrobat Pro and other offerings - that Adobe is beginning to tackle the routine editing of PDFs? Cheers, - Kevin (in Canada, eh?) The information contained in this electronic mail transmission may be privileged and confidential, and therefore, protected from disclosure. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to this message and deleting it from your computer without copying or disclosing it. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] alerting (highlighting?) non-unique data (names) by column
Hi - We use Calc 3.2.0 to schedule our employees and we're looking for a way to alert us if we enter the same name twice in any column (columns are days). The idea is to not accidentally schedule someone twice per day. We do occasionally schedule people for two shifts in one day, so we don't want it to prohibit us, just alert us maybe with font color change? Here is the sample file we're using: http://casanueva.com/sample1.ods Thank you for your time. -Andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] [moderated] Scribus and OpenOffiece.org
On 4/7/2010 5:54 AM, Lars Nooden wrote: On 4/6/10 9:12 PM, Drew Jensen wrote: PDF is IMO the primary file format used by Scribus. Scribus IMO supports pdf more deeply then does OpenOffice.org. A few times a week we get threads with misperceptions about PDF. PDF is a for the terminal stage of a document's life cycle. From PDF, it can go two places: the printer or the bit bucket. Ok - My fault for being very sloppy there. Scribus uses a scribus only file format to save intermediary work. PDF is for final production work - is that really news to anyone. Thaks Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: converting a .pdf to .odt???
In article hp31iv$cj...@dough.gmane.org, b...@oblong.com.au (Bob Long) wrote: *From:* Bob Long b...@oblong.com.au *To:* users@openoffice.org *Date:* Fri, 02 Apr 2010 07:01:17 +1000 Dave Stevens wrote, I have to convert a .pdf for which I no longer have access to the original .odt format. I've installed the sun-pdfimport extension and can open the file in Foxit reader which is faster than the adobe reader also has a save as facility which can be used to extract a text file from most pdfs. The resulting text file can of course be pasted into OO writer and then word processed. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] [moderated] Scribus and OpenOffiece.org
Drew Jensen wrote: One feature of MS Publisher that is a problem, with a quick 'just get Scribus' answer, is that MS Publisher sold itself as a web page publishing tool. Now, I never used it for that.(please let's not get into how bad it is in this thread!). If they are looking for that, then Scribus is certainly not where you send them. OpenOffice.org again offers this feature native - (again please let's not get into how bad it is in this thread! *chuckle*) So if they just ask about MS Publisher I would suggest first ask Why - if it is for the web features no need to suggest Scribus. If for press ready documents then Scribus, otherwise I would suggest they take a long look at what you can do with this office suite. Of course, OOo can be used to create web documents. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] [OT] Re: The Relay for Life
On 2010-04-06 4:19 PM, Barbara Duprey wrote: one person's troll may be another's clueless, but honest, participant. Or, an honest participant who says something that is contrary to something that 'you know that just ain't so'... -- Charles - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Is Bing trying to kill off OpenOffice?
http://www.linuxtoday.com/infrastructure/2010032901035OPMS?utm_source=DaronBabinutm_medium=RSSFeedsutm_content=GoogComputm_campaign=twitter Now, the article is correct in that none of the first links are directly to OpenOffice.org. However, it fails to mention that a lot of them have secondary click-through links to the site with no pay wall. So, is this an effective way to kill off OpenOffice? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
RE: [users] Re: converting a .pdf to .odt???
R N D Martin [mailto:rndmar...@cix.co.uk] offered: In article hp31iv$cj...@dough.gmane.org, b...@oblong.com.au (Bob Long) wrote: *From:* Bob Long b...@oblong.com.au *To:* users@openoffice.org *Date:* Fri, 02 Apr 2010 07:01:17 +1000 Dave Stevens wrote, I have to convert a .pdf for which I no longer have access to the original .odt format. I've installed the sun-pdfimport extension and can open the file in Foxit reader which is faster than the adobe reader also has a save as facility which can be used to extract a text file from most pdfs. The resulting text file can of course be pasted into OO writer and then word processed. I've never used it. How well does it handle complex layouts, like multiple columns? Like a data sheet or brochure? Or a FrameMaker document with side-heads and inset text boxes? Good old Acrobat used to 'randomly' jump all over the page when you attempted to select text. I would basically just transcribe (re-type) text from PDFs into Word or OOo or FrameMaker, rather than fight with the PDF itself. I've heard rumors that modern PDF creation pays more attention to preserving text continuity, so export utilities can do a better job. It would make my life easier if quality, trustable text (or .doc or .odt) files could be had automatically. Are you recommending Foxit based on reading about it, or as a satisfied user? Thanks, - Kevin The information contained in this electronic mail transmission may be privileged and confidential, and therefore, protected from disclosure. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to this message and deleting it from your computer without copying or disclosing it. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: Is Bing trying to kill off OpenOffice?
On 04/07/2010 10:47 AM, John Meyer wrote: http://www.linuxtoday.com/infrastructure/2010032901035OPMS?utm_source=DaronBabinutm_medium=RSSFeedsutm_content=GoogComputm_campaign=twitter Now, the article is correct in that none of the first links are directly to OpenOffice.org. However, it fails to mention that a lot of them have secondary click-through links to the site with no pay wall. So, is this an effective way to kill off OpenOffice? http://www.katonda.com/blog/922/microsoft-bing-trying-kill-open-office quote UPDATE: A representative from Microsoft Bing team informed Katonda about this issue. Below is the response: We’ve learned that OpenOffice.org is not showing up in Bing search results because OpenOffice.org is preventing the Bing crawler from indexing their site. We’re reaching out to them now to try and resolve the issue. We will keep you posted with the development. /quote - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Re: Is Bing trying to kill off OpenOffice?
2010/4/7 NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net On 04/07/2010 10:47 AM, John Meyer wrote: http://www.linuxtoday.com/infrastructure/2010032901035OPMS?utm_source=DaronBabinutm_medium=RSSFeedsutm_content=GoogComputm_campaign=twitter Now, the article is correct in that none of the first links are directly to OpenOffice.org. However, it fails to mention that a lot of them have secondary click-through links to the site with no pay wall. So, is this an effective way to kill off OpenOffice? http://www.katonda.com/blog/922/microsoft-bing-trying-kill-open-office quote UPDATE: A representative from Microsoft Bing team informed Katonda about this issue. Below is the response: We’ve learned that OpenOffice.org is not showing up in Bing search results because OpenOffice.org is preventing the Bing crawler from indexing their site. We’re reaching out to them now to try and resolve the issue. We will keep you posted with the development. /quote Is OOo really preventing the Bing crawler from indexing the OOo site ? For some reason, I should like to see conformation from a more objective source than the Bing team Henri
Re: [users] Writer: do not show =2 lines of text body at end of page
Dotan Cohen - dotanco...@gmail.com wrote: Actually, it seems that even with a single-column layout the Do not split paragraph box is rechecked and the Widow and Orphan control boxen are empty. Every line in your example document is a new paragraph. To see that more clearly, click open the View and choose Non-printing Characters. New paragraphs are then marked with a symbol which looks like a backwards P (also spaces show as a dot, and tabs as a right-pointing arrow). To start a new line without starting a new paragraph, hold the Shift key when pressing Enter, instead of just pressing Enter (with Non-printing Characters shown, you see an arrow pointing down then left as is common on the Enter key). The options for widow and orphan control or keep paragraphs together then work. You might then want to change the Indents and Spacing paragraph options to remove the indent. You can set different options for different paragraphs, so changing them at one point in the document won't affect the whole document. To save having to change every individual paragraph's options (once you've replaced new paragraph marks with new lines) you can modify the Text body style - from the Format menu choose Styles and Formatting, right-click Text body and select Modify... and set whatever text flow, indent and other options you want for the style. Hope that helps. Mark. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
RE: [users] Is Bing trying to kill off OpenOffice?
John Meyer [mailto:pueblonat...@opensuse.us] showed us: http://www.linuxtoday.com/infrastructure/2010032901035OPMS?utm _source=DaronBabinutm_medium=RSSFeedsutm_content=GoogComputm_ campaign=twitter Now, the article is correct in that none of the first links are directly to OpenOffice.org. However, it fails to mention that a lot of them have secondary click-through links to the site with no pay wall. So, is this an effective way to kill off OpenOffice? At least to the extent of their search-engine market-share, yes. This is standard tactics for Mickey. I used to think that a lot of MS-bashing as evil empire (as opposed to incompentence or arrogance about their products) was kinda overdone and paranoid. Then last year, I followed a discussion for a couple of weeks about the new Bing, and Wikipedia fraud. Basically, it turns out, Mickey maintains an actual team of - for want of a better word - dis-informationists. They were caught red-handed storming some Wikipedia articles, taking out info that was critical of, or unflattering to MS. Basically, they'd 'sanitize' an article until it no longer favored a competitor or questioned an MS quality or practice. No big deal there. Other Wiki participants and editors could just reset or otherwise edit the article to reflect balance, truth and verifiable content with citations. Happens all the time when Wiki articles are vandalized or are corrupted by zealots. BUT the key trick here is that the dis-information team would complete their vandalism and immediately trigger a scan by Bing, and caching of the page. Then the Wikipedia folks would correct the article, but Bing would ignore the correction. Bing users would only ever see the falsified or 'sanitized' page from future Bing searches. Imagine if Toyota had been doing something like that regarding their random-acceleration and brake-system problems... Hmm. It might be instructive to compare Bing and Google search results about Toyota's or other companies' problems. I think you could soon build a database of who in the corporate world (or the political world, for that matter...) is, or is not a paying client of Mickey's dis-informationist services (as fronted by Bing). The whole mess was documented by some angry folks who recorded the activities, complete with timestamps, IP tracebacks, etc. The MS dis-informationists 'participated' in the discussion by issuing denials or calling the whistle- blowers paranoid, etc. Several names and aliases were tracked back to a small group of Mickey's employees who have been doing similar dirty tricks for years. Bing! I, for one, refuse to use it. - !...@#$%^*^...@!! The information contained in this electronic mail transmission may be privileged and confidential, and therefore, protected from disclosure. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to this message and deleting it from your computer without copying or disclosing it. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Re: converting a .pdf to .odt???
On 4/7/10 7:07 PM, R N D Martin wrote: Foxit reader which is faster than the adobe reader also has a save as facility which can be used to extract a text file from ... It can only extract text if the text has not been converted to bitmap or outline. Accept the fact that if you lost the original and have only PDF, the document can go to the printer or to the bit bucket, but editing is not an option anymore. /Lars - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] [moderated] Scribus and OpenOffiece.org
On Wednesday 07 April 2010 06:12, Drew Jensen wrote: On 4/6/2010 5:18 AM, Lars Nooden wrote: ... Please tell me which DTP is using a standards based file format? Scribus ... being an open source project, the source code is freely available, Yes, but the question is about the format not the program. Source code is not the same as documentation or, in this case, documentation of a data format. Well, my point that the internal file format for Scribus is singular in implementation, if not fully proprietary. Nor do I know of a publishing system that is not so. Scribus file format is XML based with a DTD and text editor readable (probably after unzipping) since about 1.3.2.[1][2] Then there is the external data formats and here, as Lar's has already gotten to below, they do use standards. PDF is IMO the primary file format used by Scribus. Scribus IMO supports pdf more deeply then does OpenOffice.org. Nope, but export to ISO standards based PDF/X3 is supported. IIUC it has an internal postscript level 3 printer driver. [snip] I suppose the reason I replied at all was more this. There seems to be a steady stream of folks asking about MS Publisher, and the response is usually just, go get Scribus - which is of course true, sort of. Scribus is a pretty good tool, I use it from time to time. But I would venture to say that for most purposes not involving sending a file to a commercial printer Scribus is over kill, because all the office suites have moved to include features historically found in DTP systems, OpenOffice.org is right up there at the front of the pack in this. That is what i did originally, along with the statement that most of what the average publisher user does is available in a modern word processor. What they are really asking for is usually behaviour like Publisher, or .PUB file reading capabilities. One feature of MS Publisher that is a problem, with a quick 'just get Scribus' answer, is that MS Publisher sold itself as a web page publishing tool. Now, I never used it for that.(please let's not get into how bad it is in this thread!). If they are looking for that, then Scribus is certainly not where you send them. OpenOffice.org again offers this feature native - (again please let's not get into how bad it is in this thread! *chuckle*) No comment other than Word and Writer also have this useless feature. So if they just ask about MS Publisher I would suggest first ask Why - if it is for the web features no need to suggest Scribus. If for press ready documents then Scribus, otherwise I would suggest they take a long look at what you can do with this office suite. I would also argue that PDF export handles much of the press ready document requirement. Modern printing houses want to print your copy and thus accept pretty much anything you can throw at them. Most Publisher users incorrectly look down on Word given what they use Publisher for (Incorrect advice at purchase time usually). And to retrain to use OO.o though sensible is often put in the too hard basket partly due to this snobbery. [1] http://docs.scribus.net/ [2] http://wiki.scribus.net/index.php/File_Format_for_Scribus_1.3.x -- Michael - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Writer: do not show =2 lines of text body at end of page
Every line in your example document is a new paragraph. To see that more clearly, click open the View and choose Non-printing Characters. New paragraphs are then marked with a symbol which looks like a backwards P (also spaces show as a dot, and tabs as a right-pointing arrow). To start a new line without starting a new paragraph, hold the Shift key when pressing Enter, instead of just pressing Enter (with Non-printing Characters shown, you see an arrow pointing down then left as is common on the Enter key). The options for widow and orphan control or keep paragraphs together then work. You might then want to change the Indents and Spacing paragraph options to remove the indent. You can set different options for different paragraphs, so changing them at one point in the document won't affect the whole document. To save having to change every individual paragraph's options (once you've replaced new paragraph marks with new lines) you can modify the Text body style - from the Format menu choose Styles and Formatting, right-click Text body and select Modify... and set whatever text flow, indent and other options you want for the style. Hope that helps. Mark. Thanks, Mark. That text was copied and pasted from a website. Is there a way to convert all the New Paragraph marks to New Line marks? I tried to do the same conversion once and failed to find a way, but maybe it does exist. Thanks. -- Dotan Cohen http://bido.com http://what-is-what.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Re: Is Bing trying to kill off OpenOffice?
On 07-Apr-10 20:23, M Henri Day wrote: Is OOo really preventing the Bing crawler from indexing the OOo site ? For some reason, I should like to see conformation from a more objective source than the Bing team There was some discussion on it here: http://council.openoffice.org/servlets/BrowseList?list=discussby=threadfrom=2355598 C. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: Is Bing trying to kill off OpenOffice?
On 04/07/2010 11:40 AM, Clayton wrote: On 07-Apr-10 20:23, M Henri Day wrote: Is OOo really preventing the Bing crawler from indexing the OOo site ? For some reason, I should like to see conformation from a more objective source than the Bing team There was some discussion on it here: http://council.openoffice.org/servlets/BrowseList?list=discussby=threadfrom=2355598 C. And on the website list: http://website.openoffice.org/servlets/ProjectMailingListList http://website.openoffice.org/servlets/BrowseList?listName=devby=datefrom=2010-04-01to=2010-04-30first=1count=9 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] PDF Import capability (was RE: Scribus and OpenOffiece.org )
On 4/7/10 5:30 PM, McLauchlan, Kevin wrote: My crystal ball ... Save the speculation for the stock market and the sob story for someone who cares. Having a metric buttload of legacy documents and a great wish to be able to recover them in editable form, won't make them editable. Even needing the documents to be editable won't make them so unless they already are in a source format, like ODF. PDF it is then. Dozens of them. No source text. No source drawings or screen-caps or photos. If you have to change them, then you are looking at rekeying. That's similar as when businesses started to scan in their old paper records. By the way, aren't there signs - in recent versions of ... There are signs that OpenOffice.org is being adopted more in the public sector to fulfill the requirements to use ODF. As ODF includes more complete SVG support, then it will be easier to work with Scribus and other DTP tools. /Lars - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Re: Is Bing trying to kill off OpenOffice?
2010/4/7 Clayton ccorn...@openoffice.org On 07-Apr-10 20:23, M Henri Day wrote: Is OOo really preventing the Bing crawler from indexing the OOo site ? For some reason, I should like to see conformation from a more objective source than the Bing team There was some discussion on it here: http://council.openoffice.org/servlets/BrowseList?list=discussby=threadfrom=2355598 C. Thanks, Clayton, for posting that link ! I found Suarez-Potts first response with the link to Rob Weir's blog particularly salient - note that while the lack of randomness in the EC-mandated browser ballot seems to have been resolved, Microsoft has now managed to so conflate it with a series IE-updating windows that the ballot is hidden from all but the most persistent users (who wouldn't need it in the first place). Deception and dirty tricks seem to be the name of the game in Redmond Henri
[users] Locating underlined text
Hi: OOo 3.2.1 on OSX 10.6.3. I have a lot of text in which certain words or phrases are underlined to indicate that they are to be in italics. Is there any easy way to find underlined text so that I can make the change to italics myself? There are quite a number of different phrases, foreign language phrases for the most part, so it's not a case of looking for some standard underlined text. There are probably about 20 phrases. TIA //James - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
RE: [users] PDF Import capability (was RE: Scribus and OpenOffiece.org )
Lars Nooden [mailto:larsnoo...@openoffice.org] On 4/7/10 5:30 PM, McLauchlan, Kevin wrote: My crystal ball ... Save the speculation for the stock market and the sob story for someone who cares. Hee hee. :-) Having a metric buttload of legacy documents and a great wish to be able to recover them in editable form, won't make them editable. Even needing the documents to be editable won't make them so unless they already are in a source format, like ODF. I think my point, later on, was that more-recent flavors from Adobe might be turning that around. I know all about what PDF is _supposed_ to be for. I've been making that same argument to ignorant folk (often with budgetary and decision-making power) for years. I used to refer them to the Adobe web site, where Adobe said a lot of the same thing. But... I think even Adobe is beginning to bow to the inevitable. PDF it is then. Dozens of them. No source text. No source drawings or screen-caps or photos. If you have to change them, then you are looking at rekeying. That's similar as when businesses started to scan in their old paper records. By the way, aren't there signs - in recent versions of ... There are signs that OpenOffice.org is being adopted more in the public sector to fulfill the requirements to use ODF. As ODF includes more complete SVG support, then it will be easier to work with Scribus and other DTP tools. Spoken like a true politician. My primary reason for choosing OOo is its non-MS-ness. Next is that the price is right. I've owned MS-Office before, personally, at roughly a thousand bucks (circa 1997) - won't do that again. Next is that OOo is cross-platform - though that's become less strictly important as I use my MacBook Pro more and my Linux boxes less-and-less. After that, there are a few things that Word 2003 does nasty that OOo doesn't break as badly. However, for some things that OOo breaks, or makes difficult for me, I now have InDesign at work. That's WAY overkill for the small handful of small docs that I'll be using it to produce, but hey... they were willing to buy it for me. The majority of my big work is now WebHelp, created in MadCap Flare. That leaves OOo for some lengthy reference guides and toolkit docs that I would formerly have done in FrameMaker. I could probably use OOo for a wider selection of my stuff (except the WebHelp), but there's no pressing incentive. At least I've been able to minimize any use of Word. That counts for a lot in my book. :-) The next time we get a clump of PDFs with no source, I'll be trying every tool at my disposal to avoid having to re-type 'em. Haven't seen a way to fit Scribus into my workflow. Not yet, anyway. - KThe information contained in this electronic mail transmission may be privileged and confidential, and therefore, protected from disclosure. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to this message and deleting it from your computer without copying or disclosing it. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Locating underlined text
On Apr 7, 2010, at 21:07 , James Wilde wrote: Hi: OOo 3.2.1 on OSX 10.6.3. I have a lot of text in which certain words or phrases are underlined to indicate that they are to be in italics. Is there any easy way to find underlined text so that I can make the change to italics myself? There are quite a number of different phrases, foreign language phrases for the most part, so it's not a case of looking for some standard underlined text. There are probably about 20 phrases. Never mind! I was doing another search and suddenly found the options Attributes and Format and both of these can mark the underline function. Don't know which one it is that works, but I suspect it is Format. With no text in the search function it finds the first underlined text. OOo rocks! //James - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Export to PDF problem - pinyin
Hi: OOo 3.2.1 on OSX 10.6.3. I have discovered what appears to be a problem when exporting to PDF. The text I am exporting includes some phrases in pinyin (Mandarin expressed as accented roman characters). Some of these come out well, others are completely garbled. Who would want to know? And is it possible that I have missed some setting for PDF export? TIA //James - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Writer: do not show =2 lines of text body at end of page
On Thursday 08 April 2010 06:40, Dotan Cohen wrote: Every line in your example document is a new paragraph. To see that more clearly, click open the View and choose Non-printing Characters. New paragraphs are then marked with a symbol which looks like a backwards P (also spaces show as a dot, and tabs as a right-pointing arrow). To start a new line without starting a new paragraph, hold the Shift key when pressing Enter, instead of just pressing Enter (with Non-printing Characters shown, you see an arrow pointing down then left as is common on the Enter key). The options for widow and orphan control or keep paragraphs together then work. You might then want to change the Indents and Spacing paragraph options to remove the indent. You can set different options for different paragraphs, so changing them at one point in the document won't affect the whole document. To save having to change every individual paragraph's options (once you've replaced new paragraph marks with new lines) you can modify the Text body style - from the Format menu choose Styles and Formatting, right-click Text body and select Modify... and set whatever text flow, indent and other options you want for the style. Hope that helps. Mark. Thanks, Mark. That text was copied and pasted from a website. Is there a way to convert all the New Paragraph marks to New Line marks? I tried to do the same conversion once and failed to find a way, but maybe it does exist. I think this is bad advice, effectively changing the document to one paragraph just does not sound right to me. Did you select all and then make the change? Were the affected paragraphs definitely selected? Select all does not work well after copy and paste from the net where DIV's get converted to sections and the sections get selected individually. In this case i usually click on the offending paragraph, then select all and make my change. You may as a last resort need to copy the data out of the sections and from navigator then delete the sections. It is a worry if paragraphs that were changed later revert. I have not seen this specific behaviour. HTH -- Michael - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Spreadsheet in Base
Can I use an OOo spreadsheet as input to a Base query or report? If not how can I convert an OOo spreadsheet to a Base table? FP
[users] Re: Re: [CALC] How to add a variable formula?
Hello Brian, Am 2010-04-07 00:00:01, hacktest Du folgendes herunter: Then you haven't looked: o Put the cursor into your result cell. o Click the sigma symbol to the left of the Input Line. (Sigma is mathematics for sum.) o Adjust the range of cells that Calc offers if it is incorrect: drag it to position the top left corner and drag the bottom right corner to position that. o Press Enter or click the green tick. Oh, and you won't find that in Excel, I believe! Yes and Excel 2.0+ has saved me headaches because it. When using Calc, I had tonns of errors because it has changed the ROW NUMBERS in calculatins and when I found out that it adapt it t the new ROW, I had to change all back by hand. Is there an option to stop this? In my case, it is a VERY annoying feature-bug. Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator 24V Electronic Engineer Tamay Dogan Network Debian GNU/Linux Consultant -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ # Debian GNU/Linux Consultant # http://www.tamay-dogan.net/ Michelle Konzack http://www.can4linux.org/ Apt. 917 http://www.flexray4linux.org/ 50, rue de Soultz Jabber linux4miche...@jabber.ccc.de 67100 Strasbourg/France IRC#Debian (irc.icq.com) Tel. DE: +49 177 9351947 ICQ#328449886 Tel. FR: +33 6 61925193 signature.pgp Description: Digital signature
Re: [users] Spreadsheet in Base
On 4/6/2010 9:43 PM, Floyd Noel wrote: Can I use an OOo spreadsheet as input to a Base query or report? If not how can I convert an OOo spreadsheet to a Base table? Hello FP You can indeed create a Base file that uses a spreadsheet document as a read-only data source. You can use the query builder, with a limited set of functions available compared to a standard relational database, and the reporting tools. When you create this connected style Base file each individual sheet in the srpeadsheet file will be represented as a table in the Base file. For importing your spread sheet data into a Base file I would recommend that you follow these steps: First - create a Base file that *connects* to the spreadsheet file. Second - create a Base file for the transfered data. So, an embedded database file perhaps. Third - which both Base files open, drag each table from the connected file to the embedded database file. This will trigger the import table wizard, you should be able to follow the prompts without any problems. I hope that helps, Drew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Re: converting a .pdf to .odt???
On 07/04/2010 19:38, Lars Nooden wrote: On 4/7/10 7:07 PM, R N D Martin wrote: Foxit reader which is faster than the adobe reader also has a save as facility which can be used to extract a text file from ... It can only extract text if the text has not been converted to bitmap or outline. Accept the fact that if you lost the original and have only PDF, the document can go to the printer or to the bit bucket, but editing is not an option anymore. /Lars - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org To extract the text from a pdf - why not simply scan in the text using a document scanner set to OCR and not to scan pictures. It would save trying to do it another way. That seems the simplest answer to me. any other ideas Thanks Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Re: Re: [CALC] How to add a variable formula?
Michelle Konzack wrote: Hello Brian, Yes and Excel 2.0+ has saved me headaches because it. When using Calc, I had tonns of errors because it has changed the ROW NUMBERS in calculatins and when I found out that it adapt it t the new ROW, I had to change all back by hand. Is there an option to stop this? In my case, it is a VERY annoying feature-bug. If you need to lock in a cell use the $. Example A2 would be A$2, when you copy/paste that the row would be 2, no matter where you paste it. The column can be locked the same way, $A$2 would lock both. Andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Export to PDF problem - pinyin
On 07/04/2010 20:33, James Wilde wrote: Hi: OOo 3.2.1 on OSX 10.6.3. I have discovered what appears to be a problem when exporting to PDF. The text I am exporting includes some phrases in pinyin (Mandarin expressed as accented roman characters). Some of these come out well, others are completely garbled. Who would want to know? And is it possible that I have missed some setting for PDF export? TIA //James - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org James How is the pinyin set up? Are the characters defined as chinese for the spell-checker. I have been trying to check my adobe Acrobat as I needed to display some chinese characters. I needed the asian Font Pack to be installed in the Adobe Reader. I hope this helps. Thanks Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Writer: do not show =2 lines of text body at end of page
I think this is bad advice, effectively changing the document to one paragraph just does not sound right to me. The end goal would be changing all the text in each section to one paragraph. As these are song lyrics, that is quite reasonable. One would not expect each line of a song to be a separate paragraph. Did you select all and then make the change? Yes. Were the affected paragraphs definitely selected? Yes. Select all does not work well after copy and paste from the net where DIV's get converted to sections and the sections get selected individually. This is in fact text that was pasted from the internet. In this case i usually click on the offending paragraph, then select all and make my change. You may as a last resort need to copy the data out of the sections and from navigator then delete the sections. It is a worry if paragraphs that were changed later revert. I have not seen this specific behaviour. The problem is that pasted text results in paragraphs for line breaks. How can I work around that? -- Dotan Cohen http://bido.com http://what-is-what.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Re: Re: [CALC] How to add a variable formula?
Michelle Konzack wrote: Hello Brian, Am 2010-04-07 00:00:01, hacktest Du folgendes herunter: Then you haven't looked: o Put the cursor into your result cell. o Click the sigma symbol to the left of the Input Line. (Sigma is mathematics for sum.) o Adjust the range of cells that Calc offers if it is incorrect: drag it to position the top left corner and drag the bottom right corner to position that. o Press Enter or click the green tick. Oh, and you won't find that in Excel, I believe! Yes and Excel 2.0+ has saved me headaches because it. When using Calc, I had tonns of errors because it has changed the ROW NUMBERS in calculatins and when I found out that it adapt it t the new ROW, I had to change all back by hand. Is there an option to stop this? In my case, it is a VERY annoying feature-bug. Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator 24V Electronic Engineer Tamay Dogan Network Debian GNU/Linux Consultant I believe this feature is similar to Excel. If you want to keep the same row when pasting as it was when copying, use $ in front of the row number. EX: B2= A$2 + $C2 + $D$2 When pasted into B4 you get B4 = A$2 +$C4 + $D$2. When pasted into E6, you get E6= D$2 + $C6+ $D$2. I learned this from someone who was taking a course in Excel 2007. Dan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: Export to PDF problem - pinyin
On 04/07/2010 12:33 PM, James Wilde wrote: Hi: OOo 3.2.1 on OSX 10.6.3. I have discovered what appears to be a problem when exporting to PDF. The text I am exporting includes some phrases in pinyin (Mandarin expressed as accented roman characters). Some of these come out well, others are completely garbled. Who would want to know? And is it possible that I have missed some setting for PDF export? TIA //James I wonder if that is related to this issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=55058 [Chinese chars not recognizable upon PDF export] I could not reproduce on OOo 3.2.0 linux using the test file http://www.openoffice.org/nonav/issues/showattachment.cgi/38716/ma%20yong%20gan.odt. You can check for others here: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/buglist.cgi?target_milestone=OOo 3.xissue_status=UNCONFIRMEDissue_status=NEWissue_status=STARTEDissue_status=REOPENEDfield0-0-0=longdesctype0-0-0=fulltextvalue0-0-0=pdf exportfield0-0-1=short_desctype0-0-1=fulltextvalue0-0-1=pdf exportfield0-0-2=status_whiteboardtype0-0-2=fulltextvalue0-0-2=pdf export - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Writer: do not show =2 lines of text body at end of page
Dotan Cohen - dotanco...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, Mark. That text was copied and pasted from a website. Is there a way to convert all the New Paragraph marks to New Line marks? I tried to do the same conversion once and failed to find a way, but maybe it does exist. I can't see a way either. I have found a way to do the reverse (convert new lines to paragraph breaks), but unfortunately that's not much use in your case. For anyone who may be interested, from the help for regular expressions in Find Replace (from Find Replace, click More Options and tick Regular expressions): \n Represents a line break that was inserted with the Shift+Enter key combination. To change a line break into a paragraph break, enter \n in the Search for and Replace with boxes, and then perform a search and replace. \n in the Search for text box stands for a line break that was inserted with the Shift+Enter key combination. \n in the Replace with text box stands for a paragraph break that can be entered with the Enter or Return key. Presumably this is the way it's supposed to work... seems a bit strange to me that \n has a different meaning depending whether it's in the search or replace field. Mark. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Export to PDF problem - pinyin
On Apr 7, 2010, at 22:07 , Rob Clement wrote: On 07/04/2010 20:33, James Wilde wrote: Hi: OOo 3.2.1 on OSX 10.6.3. I have discovered what appears to be a problem when exporting to PDF. The text I am exporting includes some phrases in pinyin (Mandarin expressed as accented roman characters). Some of these come out well, others are completely garbled. Who would want to know? And is it possible that I have missed some setting for PDF export? TIA //James - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org James How is the pinyin set up? Are the characters defined as chinese for the spell-checker. Cut and paste from an online dictionary. The characters are not defined as chinese for the spell-checker, since they're not chinese characters. They have been added to my project dictionary so the spell-checker doesn't mark them. I have been trying to check my adobe Acrobat as I needed to display some chinese characters. I needed the asian Font Pack to be installed in the Adobe Reader. I use Mac Preview to view the PDF file, not Adobe Acrobat Reader. An example of what I'm getting: zhìxie and zàijiàn come over fine, but Nǐhǎo comes over as N␣ h ␣,o and Zhèngshān xiǎozhǒng comes over as Zhèngsh ␣n xi ␣ozh ␣,ngI (in this case the I at the end was overwritten by the g and the intervening quotation marks, were lost. It appears to be non-roman accents which mess things up. An ordinary grave or acute is no problem. //James - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Writer: do not show =2 lines of text body at end of page
Michael Adams wrote: On Thursday 08 April 2010 06:40, Dotan Cohen wrote: Every line in your example document is a new paragraph. To see that more clearly, click open the View and choose Non-printing Characters. New paragraphs are then marked with a symbol which looks like a backwards P (also spaces show as a dot, and tabs as a right-pointing arrow). To start a new line without starting a new paragraph, hold the Shift key when pressing Enter, instead of just pressing Enter (with Non-printing Characters shown, you see an arrow pointing down then left as is common on the Enter key). The options for widow and orphan control or keep paragraphs together then work. You might then want to change the Indents and Spacing paragraph options to remove the indent. You can set different options for different paragraphs, so changing them at one point in the document won't affect the whole document. To save having to change every individual paragraph's options (once you've replaced new paragraph marks with new lines) you can modify the Text body style - from the Format menu choose Styles and Formatting, right-click Text body and select Modify... and set whatever text flow, indent and other options you want for the style. Hope that helps. Mark. Thanks, Mark. That text was copied and pasted from a website. Is there a way to convert all the New Paragraph marks to New Line marks? I tried to do the same conversion once and failed to find a way, but maybe it does exist. I think this is bad advice, effectively changing the document to one paragraph just does not sound right to me. Did you select all and then make the change? Were the affected paragraphs definitely selected? Select all does not work well after copy and paste from the net where DIV's get converted to sections and the sections get selected individually. In this case i usually click on the offending paragraph, then select all and make my change. You may as a last resort need to copy the data out of the sections and from navigator then delete the sections. It is a worry if paragraphs that were changed later revert. I have not seen this specific behaviour. HTH Suggestion for converting the each line is a paragraph into the original paragraph setup: 1) Go through the text placing a # after the punctuation mark at the end of each paragraph. 2) Open Find (Control+F). 3) Enter $ in the Search box and # in the Replace box. 4) Click More options button. 5) Click the Regular Expression box. 6) Click the Replace all. Now you have one paragraph with the #'s showing where each paragraph ends. 7) Replace $ with # in the Search box and replace # with \n in the Replace box. 8) The Regular Expression box should be checked (ticked). 9) Click Replace all. Now you should have your paragraphs looking like they did on the web page. The suggestions about orphan and widow paragarphs should no work as well. Dan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Re: Export to PDF problem - pinyin
On Apr 7, 2010, at 22:21 , NoOp wrote: On 04/07/2010 12:33 PM, James Wilde wrote: Hi: OOo 3.2.1 on OSX 10.6.3. I have discovered what appears to be a problem when exporting to PDF. The text I am exporting includes some phrases in pinyin (Mandarin expressed as accented roman characters). Some of these come out well, others are completely garbled. Who would want to know? And is it possible that I have missed some setting for PDF export? TIA //James I wonder if that is related to this issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=55058 [Chinese chars not recognizable upon PDF export] I could not reproduce on OOo 3.2.0 linux using the test file http://www.openoffice.org/nonav/issues/showattachment.cgi/38716/ma%20yong%20gan.odt. You can check for others here: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/buglist.cgi?target_milestone=OOo 3.xissue_status=UNCONFIRMEDissue_status=NEWissue_status=STARTEDissue_status=REOPENEDfield0-0-0=longdesctype0-0-0=fulltextvalue0-0-0=pdf exportfield0-0-1=short_desctype0-0-1=fulltextvalue0-0-1=pdf exportfield0-0-2=status_whiteboardtype0-0-2=fulltextvalue0-0-2=pdf export Thanks, NoOp, but no. These documents contain chinese ideograms (as I think they're called) which I can't read and therefore can't use. The document I have created uses accented roman letters, giving a more or less phonetic representation of how the word sounds, so most of the letters are ones we think of as english, some are accented vowels such as one has in french, and other vowels are similar in having accents, but have different kinds of accents than are normally seen in languages using roman. //James - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Spreadsheet in Base
Floyd Noel wrote: Can I use an OOo spreadsheet as input to a Base query or report? If not how can I convert an OOo spreadsheet to a Base table? FP What you can do is use Base to connect to your spreadsheet. When you do this, Base uses the spreadsheet to create the table or tables depending upon how many sheets you have in your spreadsheet. (I use base to connect to a spreadsheet with 5 sheets. So, I now have 5 tables that I can work with in Base.) Just remember that you can not add data to the spreadsheet using Base. You have to do that directly to the spreadsheet. Base will see the new data in the spreadsheet. Getting Started with Base may help you in working with Base. Google for it. Dan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Writer: do not show =2 lines of text body at end of page
Daniel Lewis - elderdanle...@gmail.com wrote: Michael Adams wrote: On Thursday 08 April 2010 06:40, Dotan Cohen wrote: Every line in your example document is a new paragraph. To see that more clearly, click open the View and choose Non-printing Characters. New paragraphs are then marked with a symbol which looks like a backwards P (also spaces show as a dot, and tabs as a right-pointing arrow). To start a new line without starting a new paragraph, hold the Shift key when pressing Enter, instead of just pressing Enter (with Non-printing Characters shown, you see an arrow pointing down then left as is common on the Enter key). The options for widow and orphan control or keep paragraphs together then work. You might then want to change the Indents and Spacing paragraph options to remove the indent. (snip) Thanks, Mark. That text was copied and pasted from a website. Is there a way to convert all the New Paragraph marks to New Line marks? I tried to do the same conversion once and failed to find a way, but maybe it does exist. I think this is bad advice, effectively changing the document to one paragraph just does not sound right to me. I think the idea is to put each verse of the song lyrics into a separate paragraph, but with line breaks at the end of each line. Making the whole document into a single paragraph certainly wouldn't help. (snip) Suggestion for converting the each line is a paragraph into the original paragraph setup: 1) Go through the text placing a # after the punctuation mark at the end of each paragraph. 2) Open Find (Control+F). 3) Enter $ in the Search box and # in the Replace box. 4) Click More options button. 5) Click the Regular Expression box. 6) Click the Replace all. Now you have one paragraph with the #'s showing where each paragraph ends. 7) Replace $ with # in the Search box and replace # with \n in the Replace box. 8) The Regular Expression box should be checked (ticked). 9) Click Replace all. Now you should have your paragraphs looking like they did on the web page. The suggestions about orphan and widow paragarphs should no work as well. Dan But while a \n in the Find box matches a *line* break, in the Replace box it inserts a *paragraph* break. Doesn't make sense to me either, but it's well documented in the help and on the Wiki, so is presumably the way it's supposed to be. I came across similar tricks with regular expressions which almost get there, but unless there is a way to insert a line break in the Replace text, I don't think anything is going to completely do it. It does seem strange that it's possible to find a line break, but not insert one as a replacement. Mark. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Re: converting a .pdf to .odt???
On Wed, 07 Apr 2010 20:54:41 +0100 Rob Clement r...@robbev.com dijo: To extract the text from a pdf - why not simply scan in the text using a document scanner set to OCR and not to scan pictures. It would save trying to do it another way. Earlier in this thread there was a mention of printing to CUPS-PDF. I have done so on a few occasions, and in each case the text was converted to outlines. I just wanted to add that fact to the thread, lest someone think that printing to CUPS-PDF is the equivalent of exporting from OOo or Scribus. Regarding doing an OCR of a printout of the file, that is not generally necessary. Most OCR programs these days can work on a bitmap of the file. So just print the PDF to an image format and then OCR the image format. No need to waste paper or even own a printer or scanner. Having said that, OCR programs are far from perfect. They save typing, but you'll still have to spend some time cleaning up the errors. And you will typically lose design formatting, e.g., indents. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Writer: do not show =2 lines of text body at end of page
Now that the line breaks are out of the way, the Widow and Orphan control works! However, there are Headings as Widows. What must I configure to associate the Headings with the Text Body that follows, so that there will not be Heading Widows? -- Dotan Cohen http://bido.com http://what-is-what.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Writer: do not show =2 lines of text body at end of page
In the content.xml file I tried replacing this text: /text:ptext:p text:style-name=Text_20_body With this: text:line-break/ It worked! The document is attached. -- Dotan Cohen http://bido.com http://what-is-what.com test.odt Description: application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Writer: do not show =2 lines of text body at end of page
Dotan Cohen - dotanco...@gmail.com wrote: Now that the line breaks are out of the way, the Widow and Orphan control works! However, there are Headings as Widows. What must I configure to associate the Headings with the Text Body that follows, so that there will not be Heading Widows? The headings already have Keep with next paragraph set under Format Paragraph Text Flow, but it doesn't quite work as expected because you have a blank paragraph between the heading and first verse. Probably best to remove those blank paragraphs, and increase the Below paragraph spacing for the headings if you want a gap (easiest done by modifying the style). You could also remove the blank paragraphs between verses and increase the spacing below those paragraphs as well. Again, all best done using the styles. Well spotted searching the XML to replace line breaks by the way! Mark. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Writer: do not show =2 lines of text body at end of page
The headings already have Keep with next paragraph set under Format Paragraph Text Flow, but it doesn't quite work as expected because you have a blank paragraph between the heading and first verse. Probably best to remove those blank paragraphs, and increase the Below paragraph spacing for the headings if you want a gap (easiest done by modifying the style). You could also remove the blank paragraphs between verses and increase the spacing below those paragraphs as well. Again, all best done using the styles. Thank you! Well spotted searching the XML to replace line breaks by the way! Thanks, I could think of nothing else. I love non-binary file formats! This issue is solved! Thank you Michael, Mark, and Daniel. I learned quite a bit with this. Have a great night. -- Dotan Cohen http://bido.com http://what-is-what.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Re: Water Marks
On 4/6/2010 9:42 AM, jomali wrote: Well, I, for one don't understand why one would find another's personal expression of religious belief offensive as long as that person does not disparage yours. On the other hand, you, James chose to express your atheistic religious beliefs in a way to disparage theistic religious beliefs. Neither theism nor atheism is provable using mathematical or scientific criteria, so we (I think) should accept others where they are without disparagement while acknowledging disagreement. Jomali On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 8:23 AM, James Knott james.kn...@rogers.com wrote: Programmer In Training wrote: If you want an answer, email me off list as that's way off topic and also I have no desire to give trolls and flamers any fuel for their angst-ridden rants. Well, I for one, find your sig offensive. Please keep religious nonsense off the list. All religion, be it Christianity, Islam, Judaism etc. is delusion. All too often those delusions are used to harm others. So, please keep it to yourself. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org Jomali, People who take offense as James Knott did amaze me. No one offered offense to him but he HAD to TAKE IT anyway. But your response was inspired! I've only heard a few other replies that were as good (or slightly better ;-) Thank you for your reply. Beautiful. -- Lawrence C. Professional Programmer in Training (myself ;-P for 43+ years!) and former Priest in Training too! -- Write a wise saying and your name will live forever. -- Anonymous * Taglines by TagZilla * http://tagzilla.mozdev.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Writer: do not show =2 lines of text body at end of page
Michael Adams wrote: On Thursday 08 April 2010 06:40, Dotan Cohen wrote: Every line in your example document is a new paragraph. To see that more clearly, click open the View and choose Non-printing Characters. New paragraphs are then marked with a symbol which looks like a backwards P (also spaces show as a dot, and tabs as a right-pointing arrow). To start a new line without starting a new paragraph, hold the Shift key when pressing Enter, instead of just pressing Enter (with Non-printing Characters shown, you see an arrow pointing down then left as is common on the Enter key). The options for widow and orphan control or keep paragraphs together then work. You might then want to change the Indents and Spacing paragraph options to remove the indent. You can set different options for different paragraphs, so changing them at one point in the document won't affect the whole document. To save having to change every individual paragraph's options (once you've replaced new paragraph marks with new lines) you can modify the Text body style - from the Format menu choose Styles and Formatting, right-click Text body and select Modify... and set whatever text flow, indent and other options you want for the style. Hope that helps. Mark. Thanks, Mark. That text was copied and pasted from a website. Is there a way to convert all the New Paragraph marks to New Line marks? I tried to do the same conversion once and failed to find a way, but maybe it does exist. I think this is bad advice, effectively changing the document to one paragraph just does not sound right to me. Did you select all and then make the change? Were the affected paragraphs definitely selected? Select all does not work well after copy and paste from the net where DIV's get converted to sections and the sections get selected individually. In this case i usually click on the offending paragraph, then select all and make my change. You may as a last resort need to copy the data out of the sections and from navigator then delete the sections. It is a worry if paragraphs that were changed later revert. I have not seen this specific behaviour. HTH I think the issue is that there are both true paragraphs and paragraphs chopped apart by line wrapping into multiple pseudo-paragraphs when the text was copied from the web. The object is to remove the odd breakage points so that the text can flow normally, obeying widow and orphan settings. The extra paragraph breaks (but not the true ones), then, should be replaced with blanks. I can see how to do this, except it involves an Edit-Replace on a selection of the text that excludes replacement of the true paragraph breaks, which would be a real pain. But if I'm reading this right, there would be no way to distinguish the two kinds of breaks automatically. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: Your CD
On 2010-04-07, James Knott james.kn...@rogers.com wrote: While OOo can create PDF files, it does not open them. For that you need a PDF reader, such as Adobe. Sun's PDF Import Extension can open pdf files in OpenOffice.org: http://www.sun.com/software/staroffice/extensions.jsp -- -John (j...@os2.dhs.org) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: Your CD
On 04/07/2010 07:59 PM, John Thompson wrote: On 2010-04-07, James Knott james.kn...@rogers.com wrote: While OOo can create PDF files, it does not open them. For that you need a PDF reader, such as Adobe. Sun's PDF Import Extension can open pdf files in OpenOffice.org: http://www.sun.com/software/staroffice/extensions.jsp It's available in the standard extension site: http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/project/pdfimport - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: Your CD
On 04/07/2010 08:51 PM, NoOp wrote: On 04/07/2010 07:59 PM, John Thompson wrote: On 2010-04-07, James Knott james.kn...@rogers.com wrote: While OOo can create PDF files, it does not open them. For that you need a PDF reader, such as Adobe. Sun's PDF Import Extension can open pdf files in OpenOffice.org: http://www.sun.com/software/staroffice/extensions.jsp It's available in the standard extension site: http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/project/pdfimport Sorry, forgot to add that this might be of interest - particularly the hybrid bits (mentioned by Clayton in the [moderated] Scribus and OpenOffiece.org thread. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: Your CD
On 04/07/2010 08:57 PM, NoOp wrote: On 04/07/2010 08:51 PM, NoOp wrote: On 04/07/2010 07:59 PM, John Thompson wrote: On 2010-04-07, James Knott james.kn...@rogers.com wrote: While OOo can create PDF files, it does not open them. For that you need a PDF reader, such as Adobe. Sun's PDF Import Extension can open pdf files in OpenOffice.org: http://www.sun.com/software/staroffice/extensions.jsp It's available in the standard extension site: http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/project/pdfimport Sorry, forgot to add that this might be of interest - particularly the hybrid bits (mentioned by Clayton in the [moderated] Scribus and OpenOffiece.org thread. missed the link: http://www.oooninja.com/2008/06/pdf-import-hybrid-odf-pdfs-extension-30.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
