Re: [users] Help with Style Formatting Problem
** On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 1:43 PM, Gurus Knugum wrote: > Den 2010-09-02 19:41:01 skrev Adam : > > On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 10:25 AM, RA Brown > >wrote: >> >> >> Adam wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Have you been able to modify the style named *Default ?* ** Adam >>> Yes.. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> H intersting well here's some sort of break through. >> >> I just started a new document with 2 paras and these steps work >> >> 1. Select one of my paras >> 2. Cntrl+M >> 3. F11 (Styles and Formatting menu pops up) >> 4. Right click on "Default" >> 5. I Select "Modify" and para style window pops up >> 6. I set the indents that I want (now Im trying Before text 2.00cm) >> 7. Click OK (no changes seen on doc) >> 8. Selecdt "Update Style" (still no changes seen on doc) >> 9. Close (Styles and Formatting menu, still no changes seen on doc) >> >> >> so then the question is why doesn't it work on my original document with >> 50 >> paras ? >> >> Adam >> > > Do your paragraphs use any kind of Numbering or some kind of list with > dots? > > -- > Kind regards > > Johnny Rosenberg > > > > Sorry Andy and Johnny I disappeared but will be onto this again later today. I will try anything you said since my last reply. Yes the paragraphs use numbering. The last thing I tried was to copy one of the paras from my original document into my test document and here are the test results: First I just wanted to make sure that my test worked as I expected: 1. F11 2. Right click *Default* 3. Modify 4. Change say *Spacing* > Below para 5. Click OK and the change made is immediately auto applied to all paras throughout the test document that had been formatted with the "*Default*" style Repeated this as follows: 1. F11 2. Right click *Default* 3. Modify 4. This time I changed the *Indent to various values* 5. Click OK and the change made is immediately auto applied to all paras throughout the test document that had been formatted with the "*Default*" style. Now I copied one of the numbered paras from my original document into the test document and redid each of the above 2 tests: 1. F11 2. Right click *Default* 3. Modify 4. Change say *Spacing* > Below para 5. Click OK and the change made is immediately auto applied to all paras throughout the test document that had been formatted with the "*Default*" style Repeated this as follows: 1. F11 2. Right click *Default* 3. Modify 4. This time I changed the *Indent to various values* 5. Click OK and the change are not seen or made to the new para. Adam
Re: [users] Help with Style Formatting Problem
Den 2010-09-02 19:41:01 skrev Adam : On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 10:25 AM, RA Brown wrote: Adam wrote: Have you been able to modify the style named *Default ?* ** Adam Yes.. H intersting well here's some sort of break through. I just started a new document with 2 paras and these steps work 1. Select one of my paras 2. Cntrl+M 3. F11 (Styles and Formatting menu pops up) 4. Right click on "Default" 5. I Select "Modify" and para style window pops up 6. I set the indents that I want (now Im trying Before text 2.00cm) 7. Click OK (no changes seen on doc) 8. Selecdt "Update Style" (still no changes seen on doc) 9. Close (Styles and Formatting menu, still no changes seen on doc) so then the question is why doesn't it work on my original document with 50 paras ? Adam Do your paragraphs use any kind of Numbering or some kind of list with dots? -- Kind regards Johnny Rosenberg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Help with Style Formatting Problem
Den 2010-09-02 18:48:42 skrev Adam : On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Gurus Knugum wrote: Den 2010-09-02 18:27:49 skrev Adam : On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 9:13 AM, Gurus Knugum wrote: Den 2010-09-02 17:37:18 skrev Adam : I need some help with how to change the formatting (e.g. first line indentation) of a paragraph style. The F11 "Styles and Formatting" and "Edit Paragraph Style" do not work for me and the help wasn't very helpful :( Thanks Unfortunately I have the Swedish version but hopefully I can help you anyway, if I understand your problem correctly. I don't know exactly what you edited at ”Edit paragraph style”, but this worked for me: F11 → Right click the style you want to edit → Select ”Ändra…” (should be something like ”Change…” in English) → Click the tab called ”Indrag och avstånd” (probably something like ”Indentation and spacing”) → set ”Första raden” (”First row” or ”First line”, I'd guess) to something, such as 1,00 cm (or 1.00 cm if ”.” is your decimal separator). All your paragraphs using that style should now be changed accordingly, unless you did some format settings within a paragraph or so, I think you can ”ruin” a paragraph that way… If so, try to reset the paragraph to the default style first, by clicking ”Format → Default formatting” or by Ctrl+m, then apply your style again to the same paragraph. You can apply a style from the F11 window by setting the cursor in the paragraph and then double click a style in the F11 window. Also note that if you use Go-OO, F11 means full screen, not the styles and formatting window, but it seems like you use the usual OpenOffice.org version. If you try this and it still doesn't work, exactly what happens? -- Kind regards Johnny Rosenberg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org Johnny Doesn't work. These are my steps: 1. First I did what you suggested, selected my paragraph and Format > Default Formatting which gave me Indent *Before text* 1.27cm and *First Line* -0.64cm When I do that, I get 0,00 cm everywhere. 2. Format > Paragraph and changed Indent *Before text* 2.00cm and *First Line* -0.13cm This changed the selected para to what I wanted the formatting to be. Now you changed the format of that particular paragraph, not the style. 3. F11 > double click Default and at this point the para formatting changes to *Before text* 1.27cm and *First Line* -0.64cm which is not what I want. So I must be telling it to change to the Default rather than me wanting to cahnge the default style if you know what I mean. Yes, now you told it to use the default style once again. But what about if you change the actual style or create a new one that suits your needs? Create a new style by right click an existing one (in the F11 window) and select ”New style”, or maybe it is just ”New…”. Give the new style a name at the Administration tab and change whatever else you want to change in the other tabs. Now assign it to the paragraphs that you want it on. But as I said in another message, I don't think this works for numbered paragraphs, but I am not 100% sure about that. -- Kind regards Johnny Rosenberg because all my paras are formatted suing the Default style I want to change the indentation of THAT style which I can't seem to do. right click on style named Default in the F11 window and shows me the correct new indents that I want but when I select modify nothing happens :( This is so painful with emails :( Does anybody use a chat client like Skype or Windows Live Messenger :-O Well, I use Empathy, which supports a lot of networks, among them MSN, ICQ, Jabber, Yahoo etc. -- Kind regards Johnny Rosenberg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] change scroll behavior
Le 26/08/2010 02:32, Thomas Blasejewicz a écrit : > Good morning > I am using OO32, the machine(s) I am currently working with run Win XP. > > Whenever I scroll down the screen (or just typing something in existing > text does the same) and I come to the bottom of the screen, the cursor > "jumps" between 7-9 lines (I counted them) down. This happens both in > page and web view. Hi, It seems that the number of lines depends on the height of the window: OOo sets the cursor almost at the third of the window height. If you reduce the window height the number of lines is reduced. Best regards JBF -- Jean-Baptiste Faure French N-L project Lead http://fr.openoffice.org Seuls des formats ouverts peuvent assurer la pérennité de vos documents. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
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Follow up: Original Message Subject: Re: [users] How to open a new document Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 13:03:08 -0700 From: Eleanor A. McCullin To: RA Brown References: <4c7ffc56.1030...@the-martin-byrd.net> Thank you for your prompt reply. I am using Microsoft Windows Vista. In searching around trying to find which version, I came across an icon on the start menu for Open Office 3.1, and voila! it opened a new text document, and i could also access all my current filed documents. Here I've been buried in a bunch of icons that meant nothing, had really strange names, etc., and it was right there. So, thank you very much! You did lead me to it! I just won't pay any attention to the icons that pop up when one first opens the computer.. What was happening was that I was missing the opening page for OO, it was going directly to the second page. i.e. Clicked on the icon on the start menu; then clicken on Text document and 'file' which opened what I was looking for. When I selected 'open' or 'new document', then I went to the window that I found so frustrating. i.e. the icon on the desk top was skipping that first part, going directly to opening documents.Don't know if you can follow all that, but I am a happy camper, and I do thank you. Have a great weekend! Ellie McCullin - Original Message - From: "RA Brown" To: Cc: Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 12:34 PM Subject: Re: [users] How to open a new document Eleanor A. McCullin wrote: Just installed the supposedly updated version of Open Office, and I can't find anything. Finally did find 'documents', but no place could I find to open a new document. Have been working on this for 2 days and am totally frustrated. Your help will be GREATLY appreciated. Eleanor McCullin elmccullen @ cox.net Eleanor, More information is need. What operating system? I am guessing some version of Windows. Did you in fact install OOo or just download it? If it is installed then there should be an icon on your desktop that says "OpenOffice.org 3.2", without the quotes. Double clicking on that will start OOo. From the screen that opens select the Text Document icon and a new blank document will open for you to work on. If you just downloaded the file there will be a file called something like "OOo_3.2.1_Win_x86_install_wJRE_en-US.exe" somewhere on your computer, the default is on the desktop. HTH Andy -- Note: you have been cc'd on this reply as you have posted to an open OpenOffice.org (OOo) mailng list. For further information regarding OOo, please see: http://www.openoffice.org/mail_list.html Please reply *only* to the list at users@openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Basic basic basic question
Chris Tozer wrote: I know this should be totally obvious, but it isn't to me. How do I create a blank document onto which I can write? I can find instructions about using the various editing features and such, which I'm actually guessing I could figure out for myself if only I could create a document on which to do so! Click on File > New and choose the document type you want. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] How to open a new document
Eleanor A. McCullin wrote: Just installed the supposedly updated version of Open Office, and I can't find anything. Finally did find 'documents', but no place could I find to open a new document. Have been working on this for 2 days and am totally frustrated. Your help will be GREATLY appreciated. Eleanor McCullin elmccullen @ cox.net Eleanor, More information is need. What operating system? I am guessing some version of Windows. Did you in fact install OOo or just download it? If it is installed then there should be an icon on your desktop that says "OpenOffice.org 3.2", without the quotes. Double clicking on that will start OOo. From the screen that opens select the Text Document icon and a new blank document will open for you to work on. If you just downloaded the file there will be a file called something like "OOo_3.2.1_Win_x86_install_wJRE_en-US.exe" somewhere on your computer, the default is on the desktop. HTH Andy -- Note: you have been cc'd on this reply as you have posted to an open OpenOffice.org (OOo) mailng list. For further information regarding OOo, please see: http://www.openoffice.org/mail_list.html Please reply *only* to the list at users@openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Start blank document (was - Basic basic basic question)
On Friday 03 September 2010 05:39, Chris Tozer wrote: > How do I create a blank document onto which I can write? I can find > instructions about using the various editing features and such, which I'm > actually guessing I could figure out for myself if only I could create > a document on which to do so! > Don't feel foolish, this one catches a lot of newbies. Assuming you are using Windows and have OpenOffice.org correctly installed: In the Windows Start Menu look under "Programs" or "All Programs" for the OpenOffice.org folder. In that you will find a link to "Writer" which you can click. If you wish to know how to do this from a desktop icon, please ask again. For any future questions please state your Operating System version and OpenOffice.org version to inmprove how we may help you. I recommend you download and read the "Getting Started" manual (despite how everybody tells you how easy computers are to use, the techniques involved still need to be learned). http://documentation.openoffice.org/ -- Michael Fellow user of OpenOffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] How to open a new document
2010/9/1 Eleanor A. McCullin : > Just installed the supposedly updated version of Open Office, and I can't > find anything. > Finally did find 'documents', but no place could I find to open a new > document. Have > been working on this for 2 days and am totally frustrated. Your help will > be GREATLY > appreciated. Please, be more specific. Where did you downloaded OOo from, which version do you have, and which OS do you use? I ask these questions because what you are looking for should be right next to "New document" icon (in almost every app). -- Tarball <74r8...@gmail.com> - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
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l.medf...@suddenlink.net wrote: How do I install Gridlines on Open Office-Calc. ? l.medf...@suddenlink.net Please provide more information. Are you referring to the on screen display? The default there is to show the cells. Are you referring to when printing? Format > Page > Sheet tab has the options there. HTH Andy -- Note: you have been cc'd on this reply as you have posted to an open OpenOffice.org (OOo) mailng list. For further information regarding OOo, please see: http://www.openoffice.org/mail_list.html Please reply *only* to the list at users@openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Basic basic basic question
Chris Tozer wrote: I know this should be totally obvious, but it isn't to me. How do I create a blank document onto which I can write? I can find instructions about using the various editing features and such, which I'm actually guessing I could figure out for myself if only I could create a document on which to do so! Help! Thanks in advance. Chris, All you have to do is open Writer and you have a blank document to work with. How you do that will depend on your operating system. Andy -- Note: you have been cc'd on this reply as you have posted to an open OpenOffice.org (OOo) mailng list. For further information regarding OOo, please see: http://www.openoffice.org/mail_list.html Please reply *only* to the list at users@openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] How to open a new document
Just installed the supposedly updated version of Open Office, and I can't find anything. Finally did find 'documents', but no place could I find to open a new document. Have been working on this for 2 days and am totally frustrated. Your help will be GREATLY appreciated. Eleanor McCullin elmccullen @ cox.net
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How do I install Gridlines on Open Office-Calc. ? l.medf...@suddenlink.net
[users] Basic basic basic question
I know this should be totally obvious, but it isn't to me. How do I create a blank document onto which I can write? I can find instructions about using the various editing features and such, which I'm actually guessing I could figure out for myself if only I could create a document on which to do so! Help! Thanks in advance. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Help with Style Formatting Problem
Adam wrote: There is definitely something weird going on. If I go to my master document and: 1. F11 2. Right click *Default* 3. Modify 4. Change say Spacing > Below para 5. Click OK and the change made is auto applied to all paras throughout the document with the "*Default*" style If I repeat steps 1-5 but at step 4 change the "*Indent*" settings then it doesn't work. If I do the same steps above on my small test document everything works and the changes are seen immediately. So there must be some problem in my master document. Any clues? Adam Is it possible to send me a copy direct? It would help to see what your seeing. Andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Help with Style Formatting Problem
Adam wrote: You missed this step. The styles used in a document are stored within the archive as a separate file that defines the styles used within the document, styles.xml is the file name. You have to use the "Update" option above to change the settings in this file. This step does nothing on my document :( 1. Select one of my paras 2. Cntrl+M 3. F11 (Styles and Formatting menu pops up) 4. Right click on "Default" 5. I Select "Modify" and para style window pops up 6. I set the indents that I want (now Im trying Before text 2.00cm) 7. Click OK (no changes seen on doc) 8. Selecdt "Update Style" (still no changes seen on doc) 9. Close (Styles and Formatting menu, still no changes seen on doc) Have I missed a step? Adam It seems I maybe missing something myself. If I make a change in the current document then the changes apply. If I start a new document then the original "defaults" appear. I am attaching a file that shows what I did. Using DT-F3 I pasted in the text from the auto-text DT. I then opened the F11 window. Modified the "default" to 1 inches before and -.5 inches for First line. I close and reopen the file and everything is the way I want. To use the same styles every time you will need to build a template with the changes and use that to start new documents. Andy test.odt Description: application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Help with Style Formatting Problem
On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Adam wrote: > > > On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 10:25 AM, RA Brown wrote: > > >> Adam wrote: >> >> >> >>> Have you been able to modify the style named *Default ?* >>> ** >>> Adam >>> >>> >>> >> >> Yes.. >> >> >> >> > H intersting well here's some sort of break through. > > I just started a new document with 2 paras and these steps work > >1. Select one of my paras >2. Cntrl+M >3. F11 (Styles and Formatting menu pops up) >4. Right click on "Default" >5. I Select "Modify" and para style window pops up >6. I set the indents that I want (now Im trying Before text 2.00cm) >7. Click OK (no changes seen on doc) >8. Selecdt "Update Style" (still no changes seen on doc) >9. Close (Styles and Formatting menu, still no changes seen on doc) > > so then the question is why doesn't it work on my original document with 50 > paras ? > > Adam > There is definitely something weird going on. If I go to my master document and: 1. F11 2. Right click *Default* 3. Modify 4. Change say Spacing > Below para 5. Click OK and the change made is auto applied to all paras throughout the document with the "*Default*" style If I repeat steps 1-5 but at step 4 change the "*Indent*" settings then it doesn't work. If I do the same steps above on my small test document everything works and the changes are seen immediately. So there must be some problem in my master document. Any clues? Adam
Re: [users] Help with Style Formatting Problem
On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 10:25 AM, RA Brown wrote: > Adam wrote: > > > >> Have you been able to modify the style named *Default ?* >> ** >> Adam >> >> >> > > Yes.. > > > > H intersting well here's some sort of break through. I just started a new document with 2 paras and these steps work 1. Select one of my paras 2. Cntrl+M 3. F11 (Styles and Formatting menu pops up) 4. Right click on "Default" 5. I Select "Modify" and para style window pops up 6. I set the indents that I want (now Im trying Before text 2.00cm) 7. Click OK (no changes seen on doc) 8. Selecdt "Update Style" (still no changes seen on doc) 9. Close (Styles and Formatting menu, still no changes seen on doc) so then the question is why doesn't it work on my original document with 50 paras ? Adam
Re: [users] Help with Style Formatting Problem
On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 10:24 AM, RA Brown wrote: > Adam wrote: > >> On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 9:39 AM, RA Brown > >wrote: >> >> Did you right click on the "default" paragraph style and select >>> 'Modify'? >>> Make the changes and click the OK button to close and save the changes? >>> >>> >> Yes but after click ok and close the F11 window nothing happens :( >> >> If so that should have changed the "default" used when starting a new >>> document. To use this style in an existing document you need to update >>> the >>> document. >>> >> > You made the changes, did they take? Right click on the "default" and > select modify. Are the values as you entered? The "default" styles are > used for new documents, existing documents have to be updated with the > changes. > > > To update the current document, click the "New Style from Selection" icon >>> on the upper right of the Styles and Formatting window. >>> >> >> >> but this then asks me to enter w new style name like as if im cr8ing a new >> style but i dont want to do this i just want top change the current >> default >> style indetnation :( >> > > When you click on the icon you have three choices, "New Style from > Selection", "Update Style" and "Load Styles...". The first, as you have > seen wants to create a new style using a current selected text as a base. > The second updates the styles in an open document. The third allow you to > "copy" styles from a template or another document into the current document. > > > > Then click on the 'Update Style' menu item. That should then make the >>> needed changes to the document. >>> >> > You missed this step. The styles used in a document are stored within the > archive as a separate file that defines the styles used within the document, > styles.xml is the file name. You have to use the "Update" option above to > change the settings in this file. > > > > This step does nothing on my document :( 1. Select one of my paras 2. Cntrl+M 3. F11 (Styles and Formatting menu pops up) 4. Right click on "Default" 5. I Select "Modify" and para style window pops up 6. I set the indents that I want (now Im trying Before text 2.00cm) 7. Click OK (no changes seen on doc) 8. Selecdt "Update Style" (still no changes seen on doc) 9. Close (Styles and Formatting menu, still no changes seen on doc) Have I missed a step? Adam
Re: [users] Help with Style Formatting Problem
Adam wrote: Have you been able to modify the style named *Default ?* ** Adam Yes.. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Help with Style Formatting Problem
Adam wrote: On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 9:39 AM, RA Brown wrote: Did you right click on the "default" paragraph style and select 'Modify'? Make the changes and click the OK button to close and save the changes? Yes but after click ok and close the F11 window nothing happens :( If so that should have changed the "default" used when starting a new document. To use this style in an existing document you need to update the document. You made the changes, did they take? Right click on the "default" and select modify. Are the values as you entered? The "default" styles are used for new documents, existing documents have to be updated with the changes. To update the current document, click the "New Style from Selection" icon on the upper right of the Styles and Formatting window. but this then asks me to enter w new style name like as if im cr8ing a new style but i dont want to do this i just want top change the current default style indetnation :( When you click on the icon you have three choices, "New Style from Selection", "Update Style" and "Load Styles...". The first, as you have seen wants to create a new style using a current selected text as a base. The second updates the styles in an open document. The third allow you to "copy" styles from a template or another document into the current document. Then click on the 'Update Style' menu item. That should then make the needed changes to the document. You missed this step. The styles used in a document are stored within the archive as a separate file that defines the styles used within the document, styles.xml is the file name. You have to use the "Update" option above to change the settings in this file. Andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Help with Style Formatting Problem
On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Adam wrote: > > > On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 9:39 AM, RA Brown wrote: > >> Adam wrote: >> >>> Thanks Andy, I will try to explain my problem. >>> I started a document and have outline numbered paragraphs with: >>> >>> indent >>> Before Text 1.27cm >>> First line -0.64cm >>> >> >> So this is the current "default" settings. >> >> >> and all paragraphs in the document have this formatting style as defined >>> in >>> the style named *Default*. Now I want to change this to say: >>> >>> indent >>> Before Text 2.00cm >>> First line -0.13cm >>> >> >> Did you right click on the "default" paragraph style and select 'Modify'? >> Make the changes and click the OK button to close and save the changes? >> > > Yes but after click ok and close the F11 window nothing happens :( > >> >> If so that should have changed the "default" used when starting a new >> document. To use this style in an existing document you need to update the >> document. >> >>> and have this new formatting applied to all paragraphs using the style >>> named >>> *Default* >>> ** >>> >> >> To update the current document, click the "New Style from Selection" icon >> on the upper right of the Styles and Formatting window. > > > but this then asks me to enter w new style name like as if im cr8ing a new > style but i dont want to do this i just want top change the current default > style indetnation :( > > >> Then click on the 'Update Style' menu item. That should then make the >> needed changes to the document. >> >> >> Hoping I have explained the problem well enough for you to understand. >>> >> >> I hope this helps, if not let me know and we will work through it. >> >> >> As I mentioned in my first email I followed the help on the F11 "Styles >>> and >>> Formatting" and "Edit >>> Paragraph Style" etc but can't get it to work. >>> >> >> Lets see if this works. >> >> > nope it didnt work :( > > adam > Have you been able to modify the style named *Default ?* ** Adam
Re: [users] Help with Style Formatting Problem
On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 9:39 AM, RA Brown wrote: > Adam wrote: > >> Thanks Andy, I will try to explain my problem. >> I started a document and have outline numbered paragraphs with: >> >> indent >> Before Text 1.27cm >> First line -0.64cm >> > > So this is the current "default" settings. > > > and all paragraphs in the document have this formatting style as defined in >> the style named *Default*. Now I want to change this to say: >> >> indent >> Before Text 2.00cm >> First line -0.13cm >> > > Did you right click on the "default" paragraph style and select 'Modify'? > Make the changes and click the OK button to close and save the changes? > Yes but after click ok and close the F11 window nothing happens :( > > If so that should have changed the "default" used when starting a new > document. To use this style in an existing document you need to update the > document. > >> and have this new formatting applied to all paragraphs using the style >> named >> *Default* >> ** >> > > To update the current document, click the "New Style from Selection" icon > on the upper right of the Styles and Formatting window. but this then asks me to enter w new style name like as if im cr8ing a new style but i dont want to do this i just want top change the current default style indetnation :( > Then click on the 'Update Style' menu item. That should then make the > needed changes to the document. > > > Hoping I have explained the problem well enough for you to understand. >> > > I hope this helps, if not let me know and we will work through it. > > > As I mentioned in my first email I followed the help on the F11 "Styles and >> Formatting" and "Edit >> Paragraph Style" etc but can't get it to work. >> > > Lets see if this works. > > nope it didnt work :( adam
Re: [users] Help with Style Formatting Problem
Gurus Knugum wrote: Den 2010-09-02 18:39:14 skrev RA Brown : Adam wrote: Thanks Andy, I will try to explain my problem. I started a document and have outline numbered paragraphs with: indent Before Text 1.27cm First line -0.64cm So this is the current "default" settings. and all paragraphs in the document have this formatting style as defined in the style named *Default*. Now I want to change this to say: indent Before Text 2.00cm First line -0.13cm Did you right click on the "default" paragraph style and select 'Modify'? Make the changes and click the OK button to close and save the changes? If so that should have changed the "default" used when starting a new document. To use this style in an existing document you need to update the document. and have this new formatting applied to all paragraphs using the style named *Default* ** To update the current document, click the "New Style from Selection" icon on the upper right of the Styles and Formatting window. Then click on the 'Update Style' menu item. That should then make the needed changes to the document. Hoping I have explained the problem well enough for you to understand. I hope this helps, if not let me know and we will work through it. As I mentioned in my first email I followed the help on the F11 "Styles and Formatting" and "Edit Paragraph Style" etc but can't get it to work. Lets see if this works. I hope we don't confuse him, since we are obviously trying to help at the same time but in different ways… I hope so as well, Johnny. -- Andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Help with Style Formatting Problem
On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Gurus Knugum wrote: > Den 2010-09-02 18:27:49 skrev Adam : > > On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 9:13 AM, Gurus Knugum >> wrote: >> >> Den 2010-09-02 17:37:18 skrev Adam : >>> >>> >>> I need some help with how to change the formatting (e.g. first line >>> indentation) of a paragraph style. The F11 "Styles and Formatting" and "Edit Paragraph Style" do not work for me and the help wasn't very helpful :( Thanks Unfortunately I have the Swedish version but hopefully I can help you >>> anyway, if I understand your problem correctly. >>> >>> I don't know exactly what you edited at ”Edit paragraph style”, but this >>> worked for me: >>> F11 → Right click the style you want to edit → Select ”Ändra…” (should be >>> something like ”Change…” in English) → Click the tab called ”Indrag och >>> avstånd” (probably something like ”Indentation and spacing”) → set >>> ”Första >>> raden” (”First row” or ”First line”, I'd guess) to something, such as >>> 1,00 >>> cm (or 1.00 cm if ”.” is your decimal separator). >>> >>> All your paragraphs using that style should now be changed accordingly, >>> unless you did some format settings within a paragraph or so, I think you >>> can ”ruin” a paragraph that way… If so, try to reset the paragraph to the >>> default style first, by clicking ”Format → Default formatting” or by >>> Ctrl+m, >>> then apply your style again to the same paragraph. You can apply a style >>> from the F11 window by setting the cursor in the paragraph and then >>> double >>> click a style in the F11 window. >>> >>> Also note that if you use Go-OO, F11 means full screen, not the styles >>> and >>> formatting window, but it seems like you use the usual OpenOffice.org >>> version. >>> >>> >>> If you try this and it still doesn't work, exactly what happens? >>> >>> -- >>> Kind regards >>> >>> Johnny Rosenberg >>> >>> >>> - >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org >>> >>> >>> >> >> Johnny >> >> Doesn't work. These are my steps: >> >> 1. First I did what you suggested, selected my paragraph and Format > >> >> Default Formatting which gave me Indent *Before text* 1.27cm and *First >> Line* -0.64cm >> > > When I do that, I get 0,00 cm everywhere. > > 2. Format > Paragraph and changed Indent *Before text* 2.00cm and *First >> >> >> Line* -0.13cm This changed the selected para to what I wanted the >> formatting to be. >> > > Now you changed the format of that particular paragraph, not the style. > > 3. F11 > double click Default and at this point the para formatting >> >> changes to *Before text* 1.27cm and *First Line* -0.64cm which is not >> what I want. So I must be telling it to change to the Default rather >> than me >> wanting to cahnge the default style if you know what I mean. >> > > Yes, now you told it to use the default style once again. > > But what about if you change the actual style or create a new one that > suits your needs? Create a new style by right click an existing one (in the > F11 window) and select ”New style”, or maybe it is just ”New…”. Give the new > style a name at the Administration tab and change whatever else you want to > change in the other tabs. Now assign it to the paragraphs that you want it > on. > > But as I said in another message, I don't think this works for numbered > paragraphs, but I am not 100% sure about that. > > -- > Kind regards > > Johnny Rosenberg > > > because all my paras are formatted suing the Default style I want to change the indentation of THAT style which I can't seem to do. right click on style named Default in the F11 window and shows me the correct new indents that I want but when I select modify nothing happens :( This is so painful with emails :( Does anybody use a chat client like Skype or Windows Live Messenger :-O Adam
Re: [users] Help with Style Formatting Problem
Den 2010-09-02 18:39:14 skrev RA Brown : Adam wrote: Thanks Andy, I will try to explain my problem. I started a document and have outline numbered paragraphs with: indent Before Text 1.27cm First line -0.64cm So this is the current "default" settings. and all paragraphs in the document have this formatting style as defined in the style named *Default*. Now I want to change this to say: indent Before Text 2.00cm First line -0.13cm Did you right click on the "default" paragraph style and select 'Modify'? Make the changes and click the OK button to close and save the changes? If so that should have changed the "default" used when starting a new document. To use this style in an existing document you need to update the document. and have this new formatting applied to all paragraphs using the style named *Default* ** To update the current document, click the "New Style from Selection" icon on the upper right of the Styles and Formatting window. Then click on the 'Update Style' menu item. That should then make the needed changes to the document. Hoping I have explained the problem well enough for you to understand. I hope this helps, if not let me know and we will work through it. As I mentioned in my first email I followed the help on the F11 "Styles and Formatting" and "Edit Paragraph Style" etc but can't get it to work. Lets see if this works. I hope we don't confuse him, since we are obviously trying to help at the same time but in different ways… -- Kind regards Johnny Rosenberg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Help with Style Formatting Problem
Den 2010-09-02 18:27:49 skrev Adam : On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 9:13 AM, Gurus Knugum wrote: Den 2010-09-02 17:37:18 skrev Adam : I need some help with how to change the formatting (e.g. first line indentation) of a paragraph style. The F11 "Styles and Formatting" and "Edit Paragraph Style" do not work for me and the help wasn't very helpful :( Thanks Unfortunately I have the Swedish version but hopefully I can help you anyway, if I understand your problem correctly. I don't know exactly what you edited at ”Edit paragraph style”, but this worked for me: F11 → Right click the style you want to edit → Select ”Ändra…” (should be something like ”Change…” in English) → Click the tab called ”Indrag och avstånd” (probably something like ”Indentation and spacing”) → set ”Första raden” (”First row” or ”First line”, I'd guess) to something, such as 1,00 cm (or 1.00 cm if ”.” is your decimal separator). All your paragraphs using that style should now be changed accordingly, unless you did some format settings within a paragraph or so, I think you can ”ruin” a paragraph that way… If so, try to reset the paragraph to the default style first, by clicking ”Format → Default formatting” or by Ctrl+m, then apply your style again to the same paragraph. You can apply a style from the F11 window by setting the cursor in the paragraph and then double click a style in the F11 window. Also note that if you use Go-OO, F11 means full screen, not the styles and formatting window, but it seems like you use the usual OpenOffice.org version. If you try this and it still doesn't work, exactly what happens? -- Kind regards Johnny Rosenberg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org Johnny Doesn't work. These are my steps: 1. First I did what you suggested, selected my paragraph and Format > Default Formatting which gave me Indent *Before text* 1.27cm and *First Line* -0.64cm When I do that, I get 0,00 cm everywhere. 2. Format > Paragraph and changed Indent *Before text* 2.00cm and *First Line* -0.13cm This changed the selected para to what I wanted the formatting to be. Now you changed the format of that particular paragraph, not the style. 3. F11 > double click Default and at this point the para formatting changes to *Before text* 1.27cm and *First Line* -0.64cm which is not what I want. So I must be telling it to change to the Default rather than me wanting to cahnge the default style if you know what I mean. Yes, now you told it to use the default style once again. But what about if you change the actual style or create a new one that suits your needs? Create a new style by right click an existing one (in the F11 window) and select ”New style”, or maybe it is just ”New…”. Give the new style a name at the Administration tab and change whatever else you want to change in the other tabs. Now assign it to the paragraphs that you want it on. But as I said in another message, I don't think this works for numbered paragraphs, but I am not 100% sure about that. -- Kind regards Johnny Rosenberg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Help with Style Formatting Problem
Adam wrote: Thanks Andy, I will try to explain my problem. I started a document and have outline numbered paragraphs with: indent Before Text 1.27cm First line -0.64cm So this is the current "default" settings. and all paragraphs in the document have this formatting style as defined in the style named *Default*. Now I want to change this to say: indent Before Text 2.00cm First line -0.13cm Did you right click on the "default" paragraph style and select 'Modify'? Make the changes and click the OK button to close and save the changes? If so that should have changed the "default" used when starting a new document. To use this style in an existing document you need to update the document. and have this new formatting applied to all paragraphs using the style named *Default* ** To update the current document, click the "New Style from Selection" icon on the upper right of the Styles and Formatting window. Then click on the 'Update Style' menu item. That should then make the needed changes to the document. Hoping I have explained the problem well enough for you to understand. I hope this helps, if not let me know and we will work through it. As I mentioned in my first email I followed the help on the F11 "Styles and Formatting" and "Edit Paragraph Style" etc but can't get it to work. Lets see if this works. Andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Help with Style Formatting Problem
On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 9:13 AM, Gurus Knugum wrote: > Den 2010-09-02 17:37:18 skrev Adam : > > > I need some help with how to change the formatting (e.g. first line >> indentation) of a paragraph style. The F11 "Styles and Formatting" and >> "Edit >> Paragraph Style" do not work for me and the help wasn't very helpful :( >> >> Thanks >> >> > Unfortunately I have the Swedish version but hopefully I can help you > anyway, if I understand your problem correctly. > > I don't know exactly what you edited at ”Edit paragraph style”, but this > worked for me: > F11 → Right click the style you want to edit → Select ”Ändra…” (should be > something like ”Change…” in English) → Click the tab called ”Indrag och > avstånd” (probably something like ”Indentation and spacing”) → set ”Första > raden” (”First row” or ”First line”, I'd guess) to something, such as 1,00 > cm (or 1.00 cm if ”.” is your decimal separator). > > All your paragraphs using that style should now be changed accordingly, > unless you did some format settings within a paragraph or so, I think you > can ”ruin” a paragraph that way… If so, try to reset the paragraph to the > default style first, by clicking ”Format → Default formatting” or by Ctrl+m, > then apply your style again to the same paragraph. You can apply a style > from the F11 window by setting the cursor in the paragraph and then double > click a style in the F11 window. > > Also note that if you use Go-OO, F11 means full screen, not the styles and > formatting window, but it seems like you use the usual OpenOffice.org > version. > > > If you try this and it still doesn't work, exactly what happens? > > -- > Kind regards > > Johnny Rosenberg > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org > > Johnny Doesn't work. These are my steps: 1. First I did what you suggested, selected my paragraph and Format > Default Formatting which gave me Indent *Before text* 1.27cm and *First Line* -0.64cm 2. Format > Paragraph and changed Indent *Before text* 2.00cm and *First Line* -0.13cm This changed the selected para to what I wanted the formatting to be. 3. F11 > double click Default and at this point the para formatting changes to *Before text* 1.27cm and *First Line* -0.64cm which is not what I want. So I must be telling it to change to the Default rather than me wanting to cahnge the default style if you know what I mean. Adam
Re: [users] Help with Style Formatting Problem
Den 2010-09-02 18:02:25 skrev Adam : On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 8:51 AM, RA Brown wrote: Adam wrote: I need some help with how to change the formatting (e.g. first line indentation) of a paragraph style. The F11 "Styles and Formatting" and "Edit Paragraph Style" do not work for me and the help wasn't very helpful :( Thanks Adam. If you will send to me direct the requirements I will see what I can do to help. Just saying something does not work is not enough information to work with. Andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org Thanks Andy, I will try to explain my problem. I started a document and have outline numbered paragraphs with: indent Before Text 1.27cm First line -0.64cm and all paragraphs in the document have this formatting style as defined in the style named *Default*. Now I want to change this to say: indent Before Text 2.00cm First line -0.13cm and have this new formatting applied to all paragraphs using the style named *Default* ** Hoping I have explained the problem well enough for you to understand. As I mentioned in my first email I followed the help on the F11 "Styles and Formatting" and "Edit Paragraph Style" etc but can't get it to work. Adam Then I think I misunderstood your original question earlier. If you use a numbered paragraph, I think the usual styles are overridden. I think you need to right click your paragraph, select "Numbering… blah blah blah” something and do your settings there. Look at the Position tab. It's a bit tricky, but experiment with one value at a time and see what happens. -- Kind regards Johnny Rosenberg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Help with Style Formatting Problem
Den 2010-09-02 17:37:18 skrev Adam : I need some help with how to change the formatting (e.g. first line indentation) of a paragraph style. The F11 "Styles and Formatting" and "Edit Paragraph Style" do not work for me and the help wasn't very helpful :( Thanks Unfortunately I have the Swedish version but hopefully I can help you anyway, if I understand your problem correctly. I don't know exactly what you edited at ”Edit paragraph style”, but this worked for me: F11 → Right click the style you want to edit → Select ”Ändra…” (should be something like ”Change…” in English) → Click the tab called ”Indrag och avstånd” (probably something like ”Indentation and spacing”) → set ”Första raden” (”First row” or ”First line”, I'd guess) to something, such as 1,00 cm (or 1.00 cm if ”.” is your decimal separator). All your paragraphs using that style should now be changed accordingly, unless you did some format settings within a paragraph or so, I think you can ”ruin” a paragraph that way… If so, try to reset the paragraph to the default style first, by clicking ”Format → Default formatting” or by Ctrl+m, then apply your style again to the same paragraph. You can apply a style from the F11 window by setting the cursor in the paragraph and then double click a style in the F11 window. Also note that if you use Go-OO, F11 means full screen, not the styles and formatting window, but it seems like you use the usual OpenOffice.org version. If you try this and it still doesn't work, exactly what happens? -- Kind regards Johnny Rosenberg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Help with Style Formatting Problem
On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 8:51 AM, RA Brown wrote: > Adam wrote: > >> I need some help with how to change the formatting (e.g. first line >> indentation) of a paragraph style. The F11 "Styles and Formatting" and >> "Edit >> Paragraph Style" do not work for me and the help wasn't very helpful :( >> >> Thanks >> >> > Adam. > > If you will send to me direct the requirements I will see what I can do to > help. Just saying something does not work is not enough information to work > with. > > Andy > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org > > Thanks Andy, I will try to explain my problem. I started a document and have outline numbered paragraphs with: indent Before Text 1.27cm First line -0.64cm and all paragraphs in the document have this formatting style as defined in the style named *Default*. Now I want to change this to say: indent Before Text 2.00cm First line -0.13cm and have this new formatting applied to all paragraphs using the style named *Default* ** Hoping I have explained the problem well enough for you to understand. As I mentioned in my first email I followed the help on the F11 "Styles and Formatting" and "Edit Paragraph Style" etc but can't get it to work. Adam
Re: [users] Help with Style Formatting Problem
Adam wrote: I need some help with how to change the formatting (e.g. first line indentation) of a paragraph style. The F11 "Styles and Formatting" and "Edit Paragraph Style" do not work for me and the help wasn't very helpful :( Thanks Adam. If you will send to me direct the requirements I will see what I can do to help. Just saying something does not work is not enough information to work with. Andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Help with Style Formatting Problem
I need some help with how to change the formatting (e.g. first line indentation) of a paragraph style. The F11 "Styles and Formatting" and "Edit Paragraph Style" do not work for me and the help wasn't very helpful :( Thanks -- Adam
Re: [users] [Solved] Re: [users] change scroll behavior
Uwe Fischer さんは書きました: Hi Thomas, the OpenOffice.org Help Tips 'n' Tricks blog has a tip how to scroll by one page down or up. http://blogs.sun.com/oootnt/entry/navigation_in_writer May be this is helpful Uwe Thank you for the advice, but I know (how to do) that. The problem is, I want to scroll ** ONE LINE AT AT TIME** and not larger blocks of text. Sorry. As I said before, in Calc using the down arrow scrolls just **ONE CELL/LINE AT A TIME** When Calc can do it, why not Writer? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] [Solved] Re: [users] change scroll behavior
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[users] [Solved] Re: [users] change scroll behavior
Thomas Blasejewicz さんは書きました: Good morning I am using OO32, the machine(s) I am currently working with run Win XP. Whenever I scroll down the screen (or just typing something in existing text does the same) and I come to the bottom of the screen, the cursor "jumps" between 7-9 lines (I counted them) down. This happens both in page and web view Good evening I am really sorry, but apparently I did not do my homework on this question. After receiving all the helpful advice here I also did a Google search. And I found: In the past many other people have asked the *EXACT* same question I asked for many years already. The conclusion: OO is **NOT** capable/willing of changing that behavior, nor offering any other options. I am afraid, that settles it then: I HATE MS Word and AM trying to get away from MS products altogether, but having to deal with "jitterbugs" and reorient myself, searching for (d***) cursor is not acceptable. After staring for +25 years at computer screens my eyesight has considerably suffered. So, I usually display text magnified, so I will not have to squint to decipher each individual word. THAT leaves me with less lines on the screen (21-inch monitor); I counted: usually around 17-18. Let's say you have 5-6 lines in the top have of the screen in one language and 6-7 lines in the bottom half in a different language with a little space in between ... looking at the bottom shoots the top text portion out of view and vice versa. And each time the cursor "jumps" - to stay visible as it is claimed - I have to look for it. At least I could not yet find a way to make the cursor a bright red spot or so. I believe I mentioned (western) musical scores before. For +500 years they *ALWAYS* use FIVE lines and not six, or seven (OpenOffice uses apparently EIGHT lines) or any other number. There is a VERY WELL founded reason for that. I would like to believe, that the people who designed OpenOffice have their own reasons for choosing 8-line jumps and similarly believe, they are serving mankind in doing so. (In that case they might want to consider, why the 5-line musical scores have been so successful!) And probably both the designers and satisfied users just love the jumping up and down = jitterbugs. But I cannot handle this kind of nervous behavior. I guess, that will make OpenOffice unacceptable as the choice of wordprocessor for my daily work. Maybe these complaints may reach the ears of the designers (or is it programmers?) and eventually produce a change? But considering that this complaint has been filed many times for more than 5 years already, I probably should not keep my hopes up too high. Anyway, I would to thank everybody for trying to help me. Thank you! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] OpenOffice.org Celebrates Tenth Anniversary at OOoCon in Budapest
On 30/08/2010 17:27, John Kaufmann wrote: Hi Tim, I just wrote to you off-list, but will also reply here to tie up this thread: In a message dated 2010.08.29 23:44 -0500, Tim Derflinger wrote: John I am new to this...Where do I find my Thunderbird. You don't have Thunderbird, which is an email client; you are using Windows LiveMail. The "attachments" you saw from KAMI were not really things he attached. As JBF hinted, they are just a parsing of the email itself, into the text (ATT00039.txt) and KAMI's PGP signature (signature.asc), by MS LiveMail or MS MimeOLE. Since JBF and I don't use either Live Mail or Vista we can't be sure, but I'm pretty sure that's where it comes from. Do you know or work with someone who knows Vista and Live Mail who can look at this? John Interestingly using TBird 3.2.1 on Windows 7 I see NO attachments at all - until I forward the message when the signature.asc file is seen. Receiving the message in Outlook 2007 the attachment is clearly visible. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
