Re: [users] Where does Linux/Mint OOo Store RGB Color Codes?
On 12/13/10 7:28 PM, Daniel Lewis wrote: If you are using the version of OOo provided by Mint, the preset parts of OOo are probably located within the /etc/ folder. That is not what you want. You mentioned three locations for the standard.soc file, but you did not mention where the third location was. If you look at my earlier reply, I mentioned a location: /home/.openoffice.org/. What I should have written /home/user/.openoffice.org/3/user/config/ as the folder containing the file you need. The user in the address is the name of the folder which contains all of your personal folders. For example, on my Linux box, my user name is dan. So, this file is located at /home/dan/.openoffice.org/3/user/config/. Another thing: the period in front of openoffice.org is used by Linux to identify a hidden folder or file. I'm not sure how you searched for the standard.soc file. Did you use the command line or something else. This might help some. Dan In the immortal words of Captain J.J. Adams The damned thing's invisible!, I have you to thank for locating the files in question -- only visible in show hidden files mode! Like who'd ever know that, and Why?? Wouldn't it make it a heck of a lot easier (not that mucking around with CLI is anyway!) for the poor green user to transfer their personalized defaults and bio between OOo versions by keeping it out in the open? No wonder Billy isn't all that bothered that OOo exists! Anyway, thanks a mint for your input Dan and Merry Xmas! Jim - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Where does Linux/Mint OOo Store RGB Color Codes?
On 12/15/10 7:45 AM, Daniel Lewis wrote: James Greenidge wrote: In the immortal words of Captain J.J. Adams The damned thing's invisible!, I have you to thank for locating the files in question -- only visible in show hidden files mode! Like who'd ever know that, and Why?? Wouldn't it make it a heck of a lot easier (not that mucking around with CLI is anyway!) for the poor green user to transfer their personalized defaults and bio between OOo versions by keeping it out in the open? No wonder Billy isn't all that bothered that OOo exists! Anyway, thanks a mint for your input Dan and Merry Xmas! Jim I'm sending this off list directly to you. Back around OOo version 2.0.0, (I think this was the first one), OOo made its folder hidden in the /home/user/ folder hiddenfor Linux. I wondered why at the time. But as I have used Linux more and more, I realized that this was how Linux distributions did it. Selecting Show hidden files will show many hidden folders for programs used by the user. So, its a matter of understanding the structure of Linux more than OOo. The location of the preset file folder follows the Linux tradition: using the /etc/ and /init/ folders. The Linux version from the OOo website uses the /opt/ folder to place its preset files. This too follows the Linux tradition. But this is no different than Windows versions nor Mac OS X. Each one has a specific location that if very different from other operating systems. I still have problems finding what I want because the location is in the .../user/Library/Application Support/. This did not make sense to me as a Linux user for several years. When I want to delete a program for some reason, I have learned to drag it to the Trash. But I have no idea of how many folders I have in the Application Support folder containing files that I no longer need. But this is a Mac thing. It can be as frustrating as you are finding Mint Linux. Suggestion: Learn the quirks of Mint Linux, and the frustration level will drop tremendously. Hang in there, things will get better. Dan Thanks Dan. The only thing is that one shouldn't be a jedi geek to do something this elementary! For me, the larger OOo marketing/public relations/customer service question is -- doesn't it behoove OpenOffice (or whatever it's cloned into now) to make things easier for novices and the totally clueless lay-user to transfer their personal configs and defaults between OOo versions? Lay non-geek/techie people using OOo Windows with lengthy bio user data and several hundred custom colors who want to move on to OOo Mac or OOo Mint or visa versa will think twice and head back to Word and MS Office if they can't easily transfer their OOo configs to other OOo versions. People on http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=130 and https://answers.launchpad.net/ claim that it should take a good OOo programmer less than fifteen minutes to whip up such a cross-platform OOo config transfer script. It seems to this callow guy that'd be a good way for OOo to reap more users who would otherwise be put off trying to stay in the OOo fold -- at least you'd do so if you were really out to make a profit. Merry Xmas All! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re[3]: Re[2]: PDF Conversion
I use the Foxit Reader's facility to Save As text versions of documents. I have the paid for version (worth having anyway), and don't know whether the free version does this. it will probably not work with documents that originated as photocopies: for that you may need an OCR programme. best wishes In article 334552512.20101210144...@gmail.com, douglas.hi...@gmail.com (Douglas Hinds) wrote: *From:* Douglas Hinds douglas.hi...@gmail.com *To:* Daniel Lewis users@openoffice.org *Date:* Fri, 10 Dec 2010 14:47:08 -0600 It might help if you had stated what you meant by the results were not adequate. OO writer can now open pdf files, but it opens them in OO Draw and each and every line is included in it's own text box so the documents flow is totally lost for the purpose of editing. The letterhead didn't appear, either. And we are describing a pdf document created in writer and exported to pdf from there. What type of editing do you want to do? I want a faithful reproduction of the pdf file in a totally editable form. Where does OOo fail to do what you want? It doesn't do the above. OO opens pdf files in Draw - that means it's a graphics rather than a document file. Perhaps there's a configuration that can change this - which is the reason for my post today to users at oo.org. Any ideas? Douglas Hinds Niall Martin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] PDF Conversion
Le 10/12/2010 19:39, Douglas Hinds a écrit : OO's ability to create pdf files is a valuable asset. However, the need frequently arises to convert pdf files to a editable format. Hi, PDF is not a document format intended to editing. If you need to modify such kind of document why not ask the author a copy of the original in editable format (.odt, .doc, etc.) ? And yes, I know PDFimport extension, but it is useful only for very light modifications like to complete a form. Best regards JBF -- Jean-Baptiste Faure French N-L project Lead http://fr.openoffice.org Seuls des formats ouverts peuvent assurer la pérennité de vos documents. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
RE: [users] Table break between first and second rows?
Barbara Duprey [mailto:b...@onr.com] replied to my query: If I'm reading this right, your table is insisting on beginning at the start of a page. Have you checked the table's Text Flow properties to make sure that the Break-Page-Before options are not set? The box labelled Break is empty (intentionally, for exactly this reason - although that's the default setting anyway), so the four selectable options are grayed-out. HOWEVER, the Page and Before options (even though supposedly inactive) do have selection dots in them. It's not possible to empty the selection dots without filling the other two. Essentially, the designer of table behavior seems to be asserting I will cause a break. You can select which break, but you can't select no break. I know what's good for you, better than you do. Leads me to assume the person is/was a Microsoft employee :-) [Little bit of frustrated editorializing there.] I have tried checking Break and then selecting Page After - no change. Well, the break does occur after the table, pushing the table footnote to the next page, but the change in properties has no effect on the _start_ of the table. I also tried Column After, just to ensure that Page was not selected, and not for any desire to affect the column... again, no affect on page break before the table. If I then un-check the Break box, the options become gray, as-is... but later (after I close and re-open the document) they are back to the 'defaults' that they originally had. Anyway, that's part of what I meant when I said that I had played with Table properties, in addition to properties of the table elements. The height of the table heading row plus first content row is about 3.5 inches. The space under the text at the top of the preceding page is about 6.5 inches. The second content row, which is firmly stuck to the first content row, takes about 3 inches... considerably more than the body text on the preceding page, so it's absolutely dead-certain that there's no question of fit if the table flowed properly. Properly means, the way this OOo user wants it to. For another table, the situation is similar, though the heading row and first content row are alone on the page following body text. That's because the first content row and second content row together would be too big to reside on one page. Nevertheless, even though it breaks between the first content row and the second content row, that table still exerts Break Before. I have even tried removing some useful text in the paragraphs before the table, to ensure that there were no lines of text at the top of the page preceding the table. If that page is TOTALLY empty, the table will slide into it. If a single paragraph marker is there, the table jumps, and leaves inches of air below the table break. I went so far as to shrink that table-preceding paragraph to smallest possible font size, with minimal height and para spacing. No go. The presence of a paragraph marker is a command to break before the table. Why? I'm probably overlooking something obvious. - kevinThe information contained in this electronic mail transmission may be privileged and confidential, and therefore, protected from disclosure. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to this message and deleting it from your computer without copying or disclosing it. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] PDF Conversion
Den 2010-12-15 07:40:17 skrev Jean-Baptiste Faure jbf.fa...@laposte.net: Le 10/12/2010 19:39, Douglas Hinds a écrit : OO's ability to create pdf files is a valuable asset. However, the need frequently arises to convert pdf files to a editable format. Hi, PDF is not a document format intended to editing. If you need to modify such kind of document why not ask the author a copy of the original in editable format (.odt, .doc, etc.) ? So why does Adobe make their Acrobat program? A cassette tape was originally intended for speech only, not music, but a few decades later some manufacturers actually made some quite capable cassettes and decks, like TDK, Nakamichi and many others, and people used them for music as well, in fact I think the most common use was music. Things doesn't necessarily need to be what they were originally intended to be. And good luck to ask the authorities to send you editable copies of their stuff. I tried that a few years ago. They said that they have been thinking about uploading their documents in DOC (Microsoft) format. Well, that's better than nothing, but still today, a few years later, there is still only the PDF on their site. However, that was a PDF form thing (FDF?) and a few days ago I discovered that I can fill in those and save them with Evince, which was impossible a few months ago, I think. But that doesn't solve the OP's issue. Seems like he is looking for some kind of Linux equivalent of Adobe Acrobat, so the question is probably: Is there such a thing out there somewhere? Unfortunately the answer seems to be no. And yes, I know PDFimport extension, but it is useful only for very light modifications like to complete a form. Best regards JBF -- Best regards Johnny Rosenberg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
RE: [users] Table break between first and second rows?
-Original Message- From: Brian Barker [mailto:b.m.bar...@btinternet.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 8:55 PM To: users@openoffice.org Subject: Re: [users] Table break between first and second rows? At 13:37 14/12/2010 -0500, Kevin McLauchlan wrote: A table extends over several pages. How do you tell it to split/break after the first content row, so that the table can begin on a page with TONS of space? This is a problem I had before, but never solved. Encountered again in a 'new' doc. A two-column table insists on starting at top of page 20, leaving two lonely lines of body text at the top of page 19, and the rest of page 19 empty. The table has large-ish cells containing pictures, so two or three rows will fit on a page. The header row and first two content rows fit easily on page 20. This implies that the header and row 1 of content would fit easily on page 19, under the two lines of body text... and still leave empty space on that page. But the table refuses to break after the first row. I have tried Table Properties and individual cell properties, as well as properties of the text paragraphs within the cells. I can't find a way to tell my table that it is not merely OK, but actually desirable to start following the most recent body text, and to break conveniently between content row 1 and content row 2. Several reviewers have complained about the bad layout and incompetent use of page space. In general, you will want to solve this problem for future reference. But if your problem is - as you suggest - that your final copy is looking bad, there is surely a simple workaround which can be applied at the last minute before publication. Break the table into two, so that the rows that can appear on the first page are in one table and do so, and the rest are in a second table starting on the new page, as you wish. (To do this, put the cursor into the first row of what you want to be the second table and go to Table | Split Table (or right-click | Split Table).) If necessary, either put a manual page break between the two tables or else set the second's text flow to page break before. I trust this helps. Brian Barker Thank you, but I've also had it happen when the first content row is big enough by itself to push the second row to a following page. So there'd be nothing to break. Here's an update. I actually DO have one or two occasions where there's body text on a page, and then a table starts just after AND has two or more rows that live happily on that same page (no forced break). The visible differences in that NON-OFFENDING table are: a) no heading row b) only one column c) no picture in the first content row. It still has combinations of text and pictures in many cells/rows (this being a single-column table, a cell IS a row...) I've even tried copying the GOOD table (along with its preceding text paragraph) to the other location in the document, adding a column, and then moving content of the BAD table into the copy of the GOOD table. Eventually, the problem comes back. Argh. I have not exhausted all possible combinations of content and structure (one column, two columns, heading row, no heading row, picture in first content row, no picture in first content row...) while saving the doc and closing OOo after each change, then reopening to see when/where it breaks. Maybe there's a critical vertical size of cell (or cell content) that generates a pre-table page break. That imaginary feature might or might not interact with the page layout. I suppose I could start shrinking pictures (and saving and exiting and coming back) to see if I could detect a threshold. - kevin The information contained in this electronic mail transmission may be privileged and confidential, and therefore, protected from disclosure. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to this message and deleting it from your computer without copying or disclosing it. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Table break between first and second rows?
On 12/15/2010 12:43 PM, McLauchlan, Kevin wrote: Barbara Duprey [mailto:b...@onr.com] replied to my query: If I'm reading this right, your table is insisting on beginning at the start of a page. Have you checked the table's Text Flow properties to make sure that the Break-Page-Before options are not set? The box labelled Break is empty (intentionally, for exactly this reason - although that's the default setting anyway), so the four selectable options are grayed-out. HOWEVER, the Page and Before options (even though supposedly inactive) do have selection dots in them. It's not possible to empty the selection dots without filling the other two. Essentially, the designer of table behavior seems to be asserting I will cause a break. You can select which break, but you can't select no break. I know what's good for you, better than you do. Leads me to assume the person is/was a Microsoft employee :-) [Little bit of frustrated editorializing there.] Interesting -- this is not true for me (Win7, OOo 3.1.1) -- the dots are filled but grayed out when the Break box is empty, which is fair enough, since a radio control is one of these rather than zero or one of these. They have no functional effect, because they are only evaluated conditionally on the Break being selected. Have you tried defining a new table immediately after the prefatory text, then copying in the data and setting the rest of the properties you want, then deleting the original table? (Not selecting and copying the whole table, if there's something weird about the table definition it might carry forward.) I have tried checking Break and then selecting Page After - no change. Well, the break does occur after the table, pushing the table footnote to the next page, but the change in properties has no effect on the _start_ of the table. I also tried Column After, just to ensure that Page was not selected, and not for any desire to affect the column... again, no affect on page break before the table. If I then un-check the Break box, the options become gray, as-is... but later (after I close and re-open the document) they are back to the 'defaults' that they originally had. snip It sounds as if the property that's saved is the Break setting only, not the subordinate radio button ones, which may be strange but shouldn't really matter. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Print cell grid lines?
Hello, Using OOOv3.2 spreadsheet on Windows XP, how does one elect to print the cell grid lines when printing a sheet? I'm sure there must be a setting somewhere for this. Can someone point me in the right direction? Thanks - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Print cell grid lines?
On 12/15/2010 12:56 PM, Vic Dura wrote: Hello, Using OOOv3.2 spreadsheet on Windows XP, how does one elect to print the cell grid lines when printing a sheet? I'm sure there must be a setting somewhere for this. Can someone point me in the right direction? Thanks TOOLS - OPTIONS - OPENOFFICE.ORG CALC - GRID (check VISIBLE GRID on the right) also in VIEW check GRID LINES. Joe Conner, Poulsbo, WA USA - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Print cell grid lines?
On Wed, 15 Dec 2010 14:56:40 -0600, Vic Dura vpd...@hiwaay.net wrote Re [users] Print cell grid lines?: Hello, Using OOOv3.2 spreadsheet on Windows XP, how does one elect to print the cell grid lines when printing a sheet? I'm sure there must be a setting somewhere for this. Can someone point me in the right direction? Thanks Excuse me for replying to my own post, but I found the answer in Getting Started With OpenOffice.org 3 page 163. The instructions are to select Format - Page - Sheet and use the check box: [ ] Grid. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Print cell grid lines?
On 12/15/2010 1:20 PM, Vic Dura wrote: On Wed, 15 Dec 2010 14:56:40 -0600, Vic Duravpd...@hiwaay.net wrote Re [users] Print cell grid lines?: Hello, Using OOOv3.2 spreadsheet on Windows XP, how does one elect to print the cell grid lines when printing a sheet? I'm sure there must be a setting somewhere for this. Can someone point me in the right direction? Thanks Excuse me for replying to my own post, but I found the answer in Getting Started With OpenOffice.org 3 page 163. The instructions are to select Format - Page - Sheet and use the check box: [ ] Grid. This will suffice for the current document only. If you want a permanent fix, follow my previous post. Joe Conner, Poulsbo, WA USA - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Print cell grid lines?
On Wed, 15 Dec 2010 13:04:50 -0800, JOE Conner joeconner2...@gmail.com wrote Re Re: [users] Print cell grid lines?: On 12/15/2010 12:56 PM, Vic Dura wrote: Hello, Using OOOv3.2 spreadsheet on Windows XP, how does one elect to print the cell grid lines when printing a sheet? I'm sure there must be a setting somewhere for this. Can someone point me in the right direction? Thanks TOOLS - OPTIONS - OPENOFFICE.ORG CALC - GRID (check VISIBLE GRID on the right) also in VIEW check GRID LINES. Joe Conner, Poulsbo, WA USA Thanks for the reply Joe. The TOOLS - OPTIONS - OPENOFFICE.ORG CALC - GRID (check VISIBLE GRID on the right) turns on a bunch of little dots throughout the entire sheet. That's not what I was looking for but I'm wondering what those does are for. Are the for very fine alignment of objects placed in the sheet? Regards, Vic Dura - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Print cell grid lines?
On Wed, 15 Dec 2010 13:29:59 -0800, JOE Conner joeconner2...@gmail.com wrote Re Re: [users] Print cell grid lines?: On 12/15/2010 1:20 PM, Vic Dura wrote: On Wed, 15 Dec 2010 14:56:40 -0600, Vic Duravpd...@hiwaay.net wrote Re [users] Print cell grid lines?: Hello, Using OOOv3.2 spreadsheet on Windows XP, how does one elect to print the cell grid lines when printing a sheet? I'm sure there must be a setting somewhere for this. Can someone point me in the right direction? Thanks Excuse me for replying to my own post, but I found the answer in Getting Started With OpenOffice.org 3 page 163. The instructions are to select Format - Page - Sheet and use the check box: [ ] Grid. This will suffice for the current document only. If you want a permanent fix, follow my previous post. Joe Conner, Poulsbo, WA USA Got it. Thanks very much for your help. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Print cell grid lines?
On 15/12/2010 20:56, Vic Dura wrote: Hello, Using OOOv3.2 spreadsheet on Windows XP, how does one elect to print the cell grid lines when printing a sheet? I'm sure there must be a setting somewhere for this. Can someone point me in the right direction? Thanks In Calc, HelpGridPrinting Sheet Grids leads to FormatPageSheetGrid -- Harold Fuchs London, England Please reply *only* to users@openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Print cell grid lines?
On 12/15/2010 2:43 PM, Vic Dura wrote: On Wed, 15 Dec 2010 13:29:59 -0800, JOE Conner joeconner2...@gmail.com wrote Re Re: [users] Print cell grid lines?: On 12/15/2010 1:20 PM, Vic Dura wrote: On Wed, 15 Dec 2010 14:56:40 -0600, Vic Duravpd...@hiwaay.net wrote Re [users] Print cell grid lines?: Hello, Using OOOv3.2 spreadsheet on Windows XP, how does one elect to print the cell grid lines when printing a sheet? I'm sure there must be a setting somewhere for this. Can someone point me in the right direction? Thanks Excuse me for replying to my own post, but I found the answer in Getting Started With OpenOffice.org 3 page 163. The instructions are to select Format - Page - Sheet and use the check box: [ ] Grid. This will suffice for the current document only. If you want a permanent fix, follow my previous post. Joe Conner, Poulsbo, WA USA Got it. Thanks very much for your help. *Another option, you can select a range of cells and then FORMAT CELLS select the BORDERS tab and then you can do quite a bit of grid formatting, shading, etc. * *Joe Conner, Poulsbo, WA USA* - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Print cell grid lines?
On Wed, 15 Dec 2010 22:43:29 +, Harold Fuchs hwfa.openoff...@googlemail.com wrote Re Re: [users] Print cell grid lines?: On 15/12/2010 20:56, Vic Dura wrote: Hello, Using OOOv3.2 spreadsheet on Windows XP, how does one elect to print the cell grid lines when printing a sheet? I'm sure there must be a setting somewhere for this. Can someone point me in the right direction? Thanks In Calc, HelpGridPrinting Sheet Grids leads to FormatPageSheetGrid Thanks Harold. I never thought to try that. I looked at Help Printing and then decided to try the Getting Started... manual. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] PDF Conversion
Il 10/12/2010 21:47, Douglas Hinds ha scritto: It might help if you had stated what you meant by the results were not adequate. OO writer can now open pdf files, but it opens them in OO Draw and each and every line is included in it's own text box so the documents flow is totally lost for the purpose of editing. The letterhead didn't appear, either. And we are describing a pdf document created in writer and exported to pdf from there. What type of editing do you want to do? I want a faithful reproduction of the pdf file in a totally editable form. Where does OOo fail to do what you want? It doesn't do the above. OO opens pdf files in Draw - that means it's a graphics rather than a document file. Perhaps there's a configuration that can change this - which is the reason for my post today to users at oo.org. Any ideas? Douglas Hinds - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org PDF is not meant for editing. Period. OTOH, I had good results with Inkscape when I tried to apply minor modification to simple PDFs. -- Marcello Romani - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
