[users] Re: need help in email

2011-04-28 Thread Sigrid Carrera
Hello Ed,

On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 17:44:13 -0400
Ed Faris shalho...@comcast.net wrote:

 when i type a document in OOo.org writer and convert it to
 Microsoft Word 97/2000/XP   (doc)
 And send it in my outlookexpress email program, no one can read it.

Can you describe in more detail, how you converted your document? Did you write 
it and then went to File  Save as...? Also, did you choose Word 
97/2000/2003 as the wanted file format? And is the Automatic file extension 
set? (This is just a checkbox in the same dialog window, it must be checked!) 
AFAIK, Windows needs this extension, otherwise it can't decide what kind of 
file it is you're giving to it. 
 
 what am I doing wrong?

Hm, not sure what you're doing wrong, since I don't know exactly what you're 
doing. ;) 

 Please help!!
 
 P.S. I did delete from the desktop and older version of OOo.org (en2.X ?)and 
 that is when this problem started.

What do you mean here? Did you just delet the file / icon? Or did you use the 
Add/Remove Software feature from Windows? To remove a program you can't just 
delete the icon, you'll have to use the Remove Software function, otherwise 
you'll get into some trouble. Do you still have the file in you wastebasket? If 
yes, then you could just undo the deletion and uninstall it properly. If you've 
emptied your wastebasket already, then I'm afraid you'll  have to use a so 
called registry cleaaner to remove all the remains from the not properly 
deleted OpenOffice.org installation. 
 
 I really need help and have used the comm forum for a couple hours, bu 
 haven't bee able to see any solution
 
 
 thansk, thanks, and thanks.

You're welcome. 

Sigrid
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[users] Re: PDF problemen

2011-04-28 Thread Guy Voets
Op 21 april 2011 13:49 heeft Rene Vanden Driessche
rene.vanden.driess...@telenet.be het volgende geschreven:
 Kan ik van een PDF doc. een Open Office doc. maken.

 De scanner heeft onmiddellijk een PDF doc. gemaakt en ik krijg het wel open
 , maar het zijn allerlei lettertjes die op het scherm komen, maar niet de
 juiste

 mvg
 Rene Vanden Driessche

Dag Rene,

This is an English language users group. Please use the English
language or go to gebruik...@nl.openoffice.org for the Dutch speaking
users group (see also users groups at www.libreoffice.org).
OP has problems opening PDFs in OOo.

De bedoeling van een PDF is dat je een document hebt dat 'af' is en
dat je bv. mee kan dragen (portable) om elders af te drukken.
Het is dus niet echt de bedoeling dat je er gaat aan sleutelen.

Dit gezegd zijnde... kan je er natuurlijk wel aan sleutelen.
Sommige PDFs kan je gewoon tekst selecteren, kopiƫren en plakken in
een OOo/LibO document.
Bij andere PDFs lukt dat niet - hangt er blijkbaar vanaf hoe ze
gemaakt/bewaard werden?

Met een extensie kan je PDFs importeren in OOo Draw:

http://www.oooninja.com/2008/06/pdf-import-hybrid-odf-pdfs-extension-30.html
http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/project/pdfimport

Je kan dan naar hartelust knippen en plakken - hoop ik.
Succes ermee!
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[users] Re: need help in email

2011-04-28 Thread James Knott

Ed Faris wrote:

when i type a document in OOo.org writer and convert it to
Microsoft Word 97/2000/XP   (doc)
And send it in my outlookexpress email program, no one can read it.

what am I doing wrong? 


How are you converting to doc?  Are you just renaming the extension?  If 
so, that will not work.  The file has to be saved in doc format.  Since 
you're emailing the document, you can click on File  Send  E-mail as 
Microsoft Word.


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[users] Problem inserting graphics into a Writer document

2011-04-28 Thread Rick Genter
I'm writing a development guide and I use a lot of screenshots. I use 
Insert-Picture-From File... to insert these screenshots. Often when I do so I 
get multiple blank pages before the screenshot, and sometimes the screenshot 
ends up appearing on top of another screenshot. Sometimes I can get the 
situation to correct itself by selecting the screenshot and then pressing the 
left arrow key on the keyboard (which appears to move the image a small amount 
- 1/2 inch? - to the left), followed by pressing the right arrow key on the 
keyboard. Sometimes, though, I have to play around with adding/removing text 
until suddenly the layout magically fixes itself.

I searched Bugzilla for an issue like this and couldn't find one. I tried to 
add an issue, which required creating an account, but the account creation 
process failed.

1) Has anyone else seen this? Are there known reliable workarounds?
2) What's the story with the Bugzilla page and account creation?

Using:
OpenOffice.org 3.3.0 OOO330m20 (Build: 9567)
MacOS X 10.6.7
java version 1.6.0_24
Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_24-b07-334-10M3326)
Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 19.1-b02-334, mixed mode)

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[users] Re: Problem inserting graphics into a Writer document

2011-04-28 Thread Tom Bell

On 4/28/2011 11:29 AM, Rick Genter wrote:

I'm writing a development guide and I use a lot of screenshots. I use 
Insert-Picture- From File... to insert these screenshots. Often when I do so 
I get multiple blank pages before the screenshot, and sometimes the screenshot ends 
up appearing on top of another screenshot. Sometimes I can get the situation to 
correct itself by selecting the screenshot and then pressing the left arrow key on 
the keyboard (which appears to move the image a small amount - 1/2 inch? - to the 
left), followed by pressing the right arrow key on the keyboard. Sometimes, though, I 
have to play around with adding/removing text until suddenly the layout magically 
fixes itself.

I searched Bugzilla for an issue like this and couldn't find one. I tried to 
add an issue, which required creating an account, but the account creation 
process failed.

1) Has anyone else seen this? Are there known reliable workarounds?
2) What's the story with the Bugzilla page and account creation?

Using:
OpenOffice.org 3.3.0 OOO330m20 (Build: 9567)
MacOS X 10.6.7
java version 1.6.0_24
Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_24-b07-334-10M3326)
Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 19.1-b02-334, mixed mode)

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Check the anchoring for each picture.  Change the
anchoring to get the setup you need.  Look in 'HELP'
and type 'anchors' in search term, then choose 'options'.
Good luck!

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[users] Re: Problem inserting graphics into a Writer document

2011-04-28 Thread Rick Genter

On Apr 28, 2011, at 9:18 AM, Tom Bell wrote:

 Check the anchoring for each picture.  Change the
 anchoring to get the setup you need.  Look in 'HELP'
 and type 'anchors' in search term, then choose 'options'.
 Good luck!

Hi Tom,

Thanks. Each picture was anchored using To Paragraph. I changed the anchoring 
to be As Character and the document now flows as expected.

Is there a way to make the default anchoring be As Character?

Thanks again.

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[users] OOo Writer: Assigning short-cut keys to user-created (custom) not possible?

2011-04-28 Thread john d. herron

Hi, all.
When I tried to assign short-cut keys to some custom styles i'd created 
(via Tools-Customize-Keyboard), not only did the shortcuts not work, but 
the styles were actually wiped off the list.
Does this mean that one cannot assign shortcut keys to trigger 
custom-made styles?

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

john herron
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Linux Kubuntu Lucid / Mint 9 xfce
2.6.32-21 generic
OpenOffice v 3.2.0 (m12-Bld 9483)

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[users] Small page

2011-04-28 Thread Peter Howatson
I used OpenOffice 3.2 after installing 3.3 and writhing several pages.  The
screen shows all pages at once. I have only one hand so it is slow to write.
I have searched to try and find out why it dose this. I would like it to
show only the page I am writing and scroll to the other pages if necessary.
Can you help please.
Regards Peter Howatson.
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[users] open office - help

2011-04-28 Thread liat dayan
helo
i am liat dayan and doownload open ofice .
i am so greatfull on this . thank you .
i need help  to make thing acept write letter - like to make calender . to
make a list of my client and evrything ...and i dont know how to do it

i will be happy to get from you some help
pleas give me a telephone number - i prefer to talk to someone


thank you

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[users] Re: What is openoffice.org-ure?

2011-04-28 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
Hello John,

On Wednesday 27 April 2011, 23:08, John Jason Jordan wrote:
 I have OOo 3.2.1 (OOO320m18 (Build 9502) on Fedora 14 x86_64. This is
 the version I downloaded from OOo, not the version in the Fedora repos.
 I do not wish to upgrade it.
 
 After installing it I added:
 
 exclude=openoffice.org*
 
 To /etc/yum.conf. This stopped the Software Update utility from
 constantly telling me there was a (supposedly) newer version available.
 
 All has been lovely in Fedora-land. But today Software Update announced
 that:
 
 openoffice.org-ure-1:3.3.3.0-20.5.fc14(x86_64)
 
 Is available. I am perplexed why my exclude statement did not work on
 this package, but I added:
 
 exclude=openoffice.org-ure-*
 
 To the /etc/yum.conf file anyway. However, it had no effect. Software
 Update still stubbornly insists that I must install this update.

openoffice.org-ure- is the a wrong package name, it won't match when excluding.
The following line works fine:

exclude=openoffice.org-ure


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[users] Re: Problem inserting graphics into a Writer document

2011-04-28 Thread Tom Bell

On 4/28/2011 12:27 PM, Rick Genter wrote:

On Apr 28, 2011, at 9:18 AM, Tom Bell wrote:


Check the anchoring for each picture.  Change the
anchoring to get the setup you need.  Look in 'HELP'
and type 'anchors' in search term, then choose 'options'.
Good luck!

Hi Tom,

Thanks. Each picture was anchored using To Paragraph. I changed the anchoring to be 
As Character and the document now flows as expected.

Is there a way to make the default anchoring be As Character?

Thanks again.

Rick
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Unfortunately, not to my knowledge.  I have found nothing
that allows changing the default.  Someone else on the list
may know, so wait a short while to see if anyone responds
with a method.

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[users] Re: Small page

2011-04-28 Thread Tom Bell

On 4/28/2011 12:48 PM, Peter Howatson wrote:
I used OpenOffice 3.2 after installing 3.3 and writhing several 
pages.  The screen shows all pages at once. I have only one hand so it 
is slow to write. I have searched to try and find out why it dose 
this. I would like it to show only the page I am writing and scroll to 
the other pages if necessary.  Can you help please.

Regards Peter Howatson.

I would say go to view-zoom-optimal or the option
of your choice.
Good luck!

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[users] Re: creating charts from base (oo3.3 - Linux)

2011-04-28 Thread hugh
 hugh wrote:
  Hi,
  I am trying to create some charts using queries from base.
  Can someone please suggest a good method.
  
  Eventually I need to put the charts into a writer document, but I cannot
  seee how to link the data to writer, or form the charts once I have!
  
  Initially I tried to put the charts into a base report but I could not
  see any functionality in  there to create charts.
  I have tried to link the query into calc and create the charts there, but
  I cannot set up a link.
  I have been able to copy the output of the queries into calc and do the
  charts, but I would really like them to update dynamically as I change
  the queries.
  Can anyone make a suggestion please?
  
  TIA
  Hugh
 
 http://openoffice.org/projects/documentation/downloads/directory/Base/Mid%
 20level%20Base%20tutorial What you need is to add the Oracle Report
 Builder extension to OOo. Tools  Extension Manager will open the
 Extension Manager dialog. You can do the things you want to do and
 probably more also.
   The documentation for this extension is Sun Report
 Builder/Documentation. You might have to do a web search for this.
 Recently, Oracle took over Sun Microsystem renaming this extension from
 Sun Report Builder to Oracle Report Builder.
 
 Dan

Hi Dan,
Sorry about the time to respond.   I have read much of the tutorial and 
installed the report builder. 

Thank you it looks good,

However I am having some trouble using it.  Can anyone suggest further 
documentation or guidance on using it?
I am particularly using the charts, which seem to be treated as a minor part 
in the documentation I can find.

Thanks all,
Hugh
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[users] Re: What is openoffice.org-ure?

2011-04-28 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 16:24:01 -0300
Ariel Constenla-Haile ariel.constenla.ha...@googlemail.com dijo:

On Wednesday 27 April 2011, 23:08, John Jason Jordan wrote:
 I have OOo 3.2.1 (OOO320m18 (Build 9502) on Fedora 14 x86_64. This is
 the version I downloaded from OOo, not the version in the Fedora
 repos. I do not wish to upgrade it.
 
 After installing it I added:
 
 exclude=openoffice.org*
 
 To /etc/yum.conf. This stopped the Software Update utility from
 constantly telling me there was a (supposedly) newer version
 available.
 
 All has been lovely in Fedora-land. But today Software Update
 announced that:
 
 openoffice.org-ure-1:3.3.3.0-20.5.fc14(x86_64)
 
 Is available. I am perplexed why my exclude statement did not work on
 this package, but I added:
 
 exclude=openoffice.org-ure-*

openoffice.org-ure- is the a wrong package name, it won't match when
excluding. The following line works fine:

exclude=openoffice.org-ure

Thanks for the suggestion, but it still does not exclude the package. I
have tried:

exclude=openoffice.org-ure
exclude=openoffice.org-ure*
exclude=openoffice.org-ure-
exclude=openoffice.org-ure-*
exclude=openoffice.org-ure-1:3.3.3.0-20.5.fc14(x86_64)

In addition to the original exclude line that has been there for a long
time:

exclude=openoffice.org*

And the Software Update utility still shows:

openoffice.org-ure-1:3.3.3.0-20.5.fc14(x86_64)

As available for update.
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[users] Re: What is openoffice.org-ure?

2011-04-28 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
Hello John,

On Thursday 28 April 2011, 20:09, John Jason Jordan wrote:
 On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 16:24:01 -0300
 
 Ariel Constenla-Haile ariel.constenla.ha...@googlemail.com dijo:
 On Wednesday 27 April 2011, 23:08, John Jason Jordan wrote:
  I have OOo 3.2.1 (OOO320m18 (Build 9502) on Fedora 14 x86_64. This is
  the version I downloaded from OOo, not the version in the Fedora
  repos. I do not wish to upgrade it.
  
  After installing it I added:
  
  exclude=openoffice.org*
  
  To /etc/yum.conf. This stopped the Software Update utility from
  constantly telling me there was a (supposedly) newer version
  available.
  
  All has been lovely in Fedora-land. But today Software Update
  announced that:
  
  openoffice.org-ure-1:3.3.3.0-20.5.fc14(x86_64)
  
  Is available. I am perplexed why my exclude statement did not work on
  this package, but I added:
  
  exclude=openoffice.org-ure-*
 
 openoffice.org-ure- is the a wrong package name, it won't match when
 excluding. The following line works fine:
 
 exclude=openoffice.org-ure
 
 Thanks for the suggestion, but it still does not exclude the package. I
 have tried:
 
 exclude=openoffice.org-ure
 exclude=openoffice.org-ure*
 exclude=openoffice.org-ure-
 exclude=openoffice.org-ure-*
 exclude=openoffice.org-ure-1:3.3.3.0-20.5.fc14(x86_64)
 
 In addition to the original exclude line that has been there for a long
 time:
 
 exclude=openoffice.org*
 
 And the Software Update utility still shows:
 
 openoffice.org-ure-1:3.3.3.0-20.5.fc14(x86_64)
 
 As available for update.

this is quite strange, I only have this line and works fine:

exclude=openoffice.org-ure

on the PC, where I install dev-builds (3.4), and the ure package is the only 
one that conflicts in version mumber.

On the notebook I have this line only:

exclude=openoffice*

and also works fine (Fedora 14, OOo 3.3).
Try if it works leaving only that line.

Regards
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[users] Re: What is openoffice.org-ure?

2011-04-28 Thread Mike Sokey
I've tried unsubscribing to this e-mailing list at least five times.  
Now I'm just going to reply to everyone on everything. I'm sure that  
if I make a big enough pest of myself someone will take me off the list.


Thank you.

Sent from my iPhone

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 wrote:



Hello John,

On Thursday 28 April 2011, 20:09, John Jason Jordan wrote:

On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 16:24:01 -0300

Ariel Constenla-Haile ariel.constenla.ha...@googlemail.com dijo:

On Wednesday 27 April 2011, 23:08, John Jason Jordan wrote:
I have OOo 3.2.1 (OOO320m18 (Build 9502) on Fedora 14 x86_64.  
This is

the version I downloaded from OOo, not the version in the Fedora
repos. I do not wish to upgrade it.

After installing it I added:

exclude=openoffice.org*

To /etc/yum.conf. This stopped the Software Update utility from
constantly telling me there was a (supposedly) newer version
available.

All has been lovely in Fedora-land. But today Software Update
announced that:

openoffice.org-ure-1:3.3.3.0-20.5.fc14(x86_64)

Is available. I am perplexed why my exclude statement did not  
work on

this package, but I added:

exclude=openoffice.org-ure-*


openoffice.org-ure- is the a wrong package name, it won't match when
excluding. The following line works fine:

exclude=openoffice.org-ure


Thanks for the suggestion, but it still does not exclude the  
package. I

have tried:

exclude=openoffice.org-ure
exclude=openoffice.org-ure*
exclude=openoffice.org-ure-
exclude=openoffice.org-ure-*
exclude=openoffice.org-ure-1:3.3.3.0-20.5.fc14(x86_64)

In addition to the original exclude line that has been there for a  
long

time:

exclude=openoffice.org*

And the Software Update utility still shows:

openoffice.org-ure-1:3.3.3.0-20.5.fc14(x86_64)

As available for update.


this is quite strange, I only have this line and works fine:

exclude=openoffice.org-ure

on the PC, where I install dev-builds (3.4), and the ure package is  
the only

one that conflicts in version mumber.

On the notebook I have this line only:

exclude=openoffice*

and also works fine (Fedora 14, OOo 3.3).
Try if it works leaving only that line.

Regards
--
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La Plata, Argentina

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[users] Re: What is openoffice.org-ure?

2011-04-28 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 22:25:47 -0300
Ariel Constenla-Haile ariel.constenla.ha...@googlemail.com dijo:

Hello John,

On Thursday 28 April 2011, 20:09, John Jason Jordan wrote:
 On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 16:24:01 -0300
 
 Ariel Constenla-Haile ariel.constenla.ha...@googlemail.com dijo:
 On Wednesday 27 April 2011, 23:08, John Jason Jordan wrote:
  I have OOo 3.2.1 (OOO320m18 (Build 9502) on Fedora 14 x86_64.
  This is the version I downloaded from OOo, not the version in the
  Fedora repos. I do not wish to upgrade it.
  
  After installing it I added:
  
  exclude=openoffice.org*
  
  To /etc/yum.conf. This stopped the Software Update utility from
  constantly telling me there was a (supposedly) newer version
  available.
  
  All has been lovely in Fedora-land. But today Software Update
  announced that:
  
  openoffice.org-ure-1:3.3.3.0-20.5.fc14(x86_64)
  
  Is available. I am perplexed why my exclude statement did not
  work on this package, but I added:
  
  exclude=openoffice.org-ure-*
 
 openoffice.org-ure- is the a wrong package name, it won't match when
 excluding. The following line works fine:
 
 exclude=openoffice.org-ure
 
 Thanks for the suggestion, but it still does not exclude the
 package. I have tried:
 
 exclude=openoffice.org-ure
 exclude=openoffice.org-ure*
 exclude=openoffice.org-ure-
 exclude=openoffice.org-ure-*
 exclude=openoffice.org-ure-1:3.3.3.0-20.5.fc14(x86_64)
 
 In addition to the original exclude line that has been there for a
 long time:
 
 exclude=openoffice.org*
 
 And the Software Update utility still shows:
 
 openoffice.org-ure-1:3.3.3.0-20.5.fc14(x86_64)
 
 As available for update.

this is quite strange, I only have this line and works fine:

exclude=openoffice.org-ure

on the PC, where I install dev-builds (3.4), and the ure package is
the only one that conflicts in version mumber.

On the notebook I have this line only:

exclude=openoffice*

and also works fine (Fedora 14, OOo 3.3).
Try if it works leaving only that line.

OK, I am figuring something out here, except I'm not sure exactly how
it works. Apparently the /etc/yum.conf file can contain only a certain
number of exclude lines, and maybe they have to be in a certain order.
Or something.

I actually have two things I want to exclude: One is anything relating
to OOo, and the other is anything related to VLGothic fonts (for
Japanese). 

I've tried all kinds of exclude lines, and no combination can seem to
exclude everything. For years I had just:

exclude=openoffice.org*

Then I added just a few days ago:

exclude=VLGothic-fonts-*

After adding the VLGothic line is when the Software Update GUI started
showing me the openoffice.org-ure package. My current theory is that
it reads only the last exclude line and disregards all exclude lines
before it. Here is the exact total of my /etc/yum.conf file:

---
[main]
cachedir=/var/cache/yum
keepcache=0
debuglevel=2
logfile=/var/log/yum.log
exactarch=1
obsoletes=1
gpgcheck=1
plugins=1
installonly_limit=3

#  This is the default, if you make this bigger yum won't see if the
metadata # is newer on the remote and so you'll gain the bandwidth of
not having to # download the new metadata and pay for it by yum not
having correct # information.
#  It is esp. important, to have correct metadata, for distributions
like # Fedora which don't keep old packages around. If you don't like
this checking # interupting your command line usage, it's much better
to have something # manually check the metadata once an hour
(yum-updatesd will do this). # metadata_expire=90m

# PUT YOUR REPOS HERE OR IN separate files named file.repo
# in /etc/yum.repos.d

#exclude=openoffice.org*
#exclude=openoffice.org-ure*
#exclude=openoffice.org-ure-1:3.3.3.0-20.5.fc14(x86_64)
#exclude=VLGothic-fonts-*
exclude=openoffice*
exclude=VLGothic*
---

And with the above settings the Software Update utility presents me
with the openoffice.org-ure package, but not the VLGothic fonts package.
If I reverse the last two exclude lines it shows me the VLGothic fonts
package, but not the openoffice.org-ure package.

So perhaps there is a bug in the way the Software Update utility reads
the file, or in Yum, or someplace. Or maybe I need to change a setting
somewhere to make it respect all the exclude lines. Or something else
is wrong.

At this point I think I need to take this to the Fedora forums, but if
anyone can shed any light on the way the exclude lines work
in /etc/yum.conf, I'd be delighted to know.
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[users] Re: What is openoffice.org-ure?

2011-04-28 Thread Mike Sokey



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On Apr 28, 2011, at 6:37 PM, Mike Sokey mikewritesgoo...@hotmail.com  
wrote:


I've tried unsubscribing to this e-mailing list at least five times.  
Now I'm just going to reply to everyone on everything. I'm sure that  
if I make a big enough pest of myself someone will take me off the  
list.


Thank you.

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 28, 2011, at 6:25 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile ariel.constenla.ha...@googlemail.com 
 wrote:



Hello John,

On Thursday 28 April 2011, 20:09, John Jason Jordan wrote:

On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 16:24:01 -0300

Ariel Constenla-Haile ariel.constenla.ha...@googlemail.com dijo:

On Wednesday 27 April 2011, 23:08, John Jason Jordan wrote:
I have OOo 3.2.1 (OOO320m18 (Build 9502) on Fedora 14 x86_64.  
This is

the version I downloaded from OOo, not the version in the Fedora
repos. I do not wish to upgrade it.

After installing it I added:

exclude=openoffice.org*

To /etc/yum.conf. This stopped the Software Update utility from
constantly telling me there was a (supposedly) newer version
available.

All has been lovely in Fedora-land. But today Software Update
announced that:

openoffice.org-ure-1:3.3.3.0-20.5.fc14(x86_64)

Is available. I am perplexed why my exclude statement did not  
work on

this package, but I added:

exclude=openoffice.org-ure-*


openoffice.org-ure- is the a wrong package name, it won't match  
when

excluding. The following line works fine:

exclude=openoffice.org-ure


Thanks for the suggestion, but it still does not exclude the  
package. I

have tried:

exclude=openoffice.org-ure
exclude=openoffice.org-ure*
exclude=openoffice.org-ure-
exclude=openoffice.org-ure-*
exclude=openoffice.org-ure-1:3.3.3.0-20.5.fc14(x86_64)

In addition to the original exclude line that has been there for a  
long

time:

exclude=openoffice.org*

And the Software Update utility still shows:

openoffice.org-ure-1:3.3.3.0-20.5.fc14(x86_64)

As available for update.


this is quite strange, I only have this line and works fine:

exclude=openoffice.org-ure

on the PC, where I install dev-builds (3.4), and the ure package is  
the only

one that conflicts in version mumber.

On the notebook I have this line only:

exclude=openoffice*

and also works fine (Fedora 14, OOo 3.3).
Try if it works leaving only that line.

Regards
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La Plata, Argentina

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[users] Re: What is openoffice.org-ure?

2011-04-28 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
Hello John,

On Thursday 28 April 2011, 22:48, John Jason Jordan wrote:
 On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 22:25:47 -0300
 
 Ariel Constenla-Haile ariel.constenla.ha...@googlemail.com dijo:
 Hello John,
 
 On Thursday 28 April 2011, 20:09, John Jason Jordan wrote:
  On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 16:24:01 -0300
  
  Ariel Constenla-Haile ariel.constenla.ha...@googlemail.com dijo:
  On Wednesday 27 April 2011, 23:08, John Jason Jordan wrote:
   I have OOo 3.2.1 (OOO320m18 (Build 9502) on Fedora 14 x86_64.
   This is the version I downloaded from OOo, not the version in the
   Fedora repos. I do not wish to upgrade it.
   
   After installing it I added:
   
   exclude=openoffice.org*
   
   To /etc/yum.conf. This stopped the Software Update utility from
   constantly telling me there was a (supposedly) newer version
   available.
   
   All has been lovely in Fedora-land. But today Software Update
   announced that:
   
   openoffice.org-ure-1:3.3.3.0-20.5.fc14(x86_64)
   
   Is available. I am perplexed why my exclude statement did not
   work on this package, but I added:
   
   exclude=openoffice.org-ure-*
  
  openoffice.org-ure- is the a wrong package name, it won't match when
  excluding. The following line works fine:
  
  exclude=openoffice.org-ure
  
  Thanks for the suggestion, but it still does not exclude the
  package. I have tried:
  
  exclude=openoffice.org-ure
  exclude=openoffice.org-ure*
  exclude=openoffice.org-ure-
  exclude=openoffice.org-ure-*
  exclude=openoffice.org-ure-1:3.3.3.0-20.5.fc14(x86_64)
  
  In addition to the original exclude line that has been there for a
  long time:
  
  exclude=openoffice.org*
  
  And the Software Update utility still shows:
  
  openoffice.org-ure-1:3.3.3.0-20.5.fc14(x86_64)
  
  As available for update.
 
 this is quite strange, I only have this line and works fine:
 
 exclude=openoffice.org-ure
 
 on the PC, where I install dev-builds (3.4), and the ure package is
 the only one that conflicts in version mumber.
 
 On the notebook I have this line only:
 
 exclude=openoffice*
 
 and also works fine (Fedora 14, OOo 3.3).
 Try if it works leaving only that line.
 
 OK, I am figuring something out here, except I'm not sure exactly how
 it works. Apparently the /etc/yum.conf file can contain only a certain
 number of exclude lines, and maybe they have to be in a certain order.
 Or something.
 
 I actually have two things I want to exclude: One is anything relating
 to OOo, and the other is anything related to VLGothic fonts (for
 Japanese).
 
 I've tried all kinds of exclude lines, and no combination can seem to
 exclude everything. For years I had just:
 
 exclude=openoffice.org*
 
 Then I added just a few days ago:
 
 exclude=VLGothic-fonts-*
 
 After adding the VLGothic line is when the Software Update GUI started
 showing me the openoffice.org-ure package. My current theory is that
 it reads only the last exclude line and disregards all exclude lines
 before it. Here is the exact total of my /etc/yum.conf file:
 
 ---
 [main]
 cachedir=/var/cache/yum
 keepcache=0
 debuglevel=2
 logfile=/var/log/yum.log
 exactarch=1
 obsoletes=1
 gpgcheck=1
 plugins=1
 installonly_limit=3
 
 #  This is the default, if you make this bigger yum won't see if the
 metadata # is newer on the remote and so you'll gain the bandwidth of
 not having to # download the new metadata and pay for it by yum not
 having correct # information.
 #  It is esp. important, to have correct metadata, for distributions
 like # Fedora which don't keep old packages around. If you don't like
 this checking # interupting your command line usage, it's much better
 to have something # manually check the metadata once an hour
 (yum-updatesd will do this). # metadata_expire=90m
 
 # PUT YOUR REPOS HERE OR IN separate files named file.repo
 # in /etc/yum.repos.d
 
 #exclude=openoffice.org*
 #exclude=openoffice.org-ure*
 #exclude=openoffice.org-ure-1:3.3.3.0-20.5.fc14(x86_64)
 #exclude=VLGothic-fonts-*
 exclude=openoffice*
 exclude=VLGothic*
 ---
 
 And with the above settings the Software Update utility presents me
 with the openoffice.org-ure package, but not the VLGothic fonts package.
 If I reverse the last two exclude lines it shows me the VLGothic fonts
 package, but not the openoffice.org-ure package.
 
 So perhaps there is a bug in the way the Software Update utility reads
 the file, or in Yum, or someplace. Or maybe I need to change a setting
 somewhere to make it respect all the exclude lines. Or something else
 is wrong.
 
 At this point I think I need to take this to the Fedora forums, but if
 anyone can shed any light on the way the exclude lines work
 in /etc/yum.conf, I'd be delighted to know.

try man yum.conf

exclude List of packages to exclude from updates or installs. This should be a 
space separated list.  Shell globs using wildcards (eg. * and ?) are allowed.

notice the space separated list.
So yours should be

exclude=openoffice* VLGothic*


Regards
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La Plata, 

[users] Re: (SOLVED) Re: What is openoffice.org-ure?

2011-04-28 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 23:07:49 -0300
Ariel Constenla-Haile ariel.constenla.ha...@googlemail.com dijo:

 At this point I think I need to take this to the Fedora forums, but
 if anyone can shed any light on the way the exclude lines work
 in /etc/yum.conf, I'd be delighted to know.

try man yum.conf

exclude List of packages to exclude from updates or installs. This
should be a space separated list.  Shell globs using wildcards (eg. *
and ?) are allowed.

notice the space separated list.
So yours should be

exclude=openoffice* VLGothic*

That worked!

I didn't know there was a man page for yum.conf. Thanks for figuring it
out for me!
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