[users] [calc]Howto keep solver specs between editing sessions

2010-11-22 Thread Larry Evans
By solver specs I mean the data entered in the
Solver dialog box, i.e. the data labelled:

* target cell
* Optimize result to
* By changing cells
* Limiting Conditions

in that dialog box.

Unfortunately, each time I exit calc and restart with
the same file, I have to reenter this data.

Is there anyway to save and retrieve the data?

TIA.

-Larry


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[users] Re: Styles: 'List; List 1; List 1 Start; Numbering 1; Numbering 1 Start; Numbering 1 End;' What are they?

2010-08-20 Thread Larry Evans

On 08/20/10 17:45, RA Brown wrote:

Sigrid Carrera wrote:

Hi Andy,

I can confirm those entries for List styles.

[snip]

Hi Sigrid,

That is strange as I have Go-oo version 3.1 running under Ubuntu here
and do not see them listed.


Andy, the About on the OOWriter I'm using shows:

  OpenOffice.org 3.2.0
  OOO320m12 (Build:9483)

I'll send you off list the .odt which shows these styles.

Thanks for looking into this.

-regards,
Larry


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[users] Styles: 'List; List 1; List 1 Start; Numbering 1; Numbering 1 Start; Numbering 1 End;' What are they?

2010-08-18 Thread Larry Evans

I see these styles listed in the 'Styles and Formatting' window when
I select, from the main menu, 'FormatStyles and Formatting'; however,
when I try to find what the styles are in Help by entering, for example
'List 1 Start', all I get is either a hit on 'list' or a hit on 'start'
or a hit on '1'.  That's not much help.

How can I find out what these styles do?  I've been resorting to trial 
an error; however, so far I've not had much success.  I did have some 
success with figuring out 'List 1 Start, List 1 Cont, List 1 End'.  My 
conclusion was that this created ordered lists and the 'List 1 Cont' 
didn't start a new item but continued, with another paragraph, the 
previous item.  However, trial and error is a time consuming and very 
error prone method for figuring out what a style means.


TiA.

-Larry


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[users] Re: Styles: 'List; List 1; List 1 Start; Numbering 1; Numbering 1 Start; Numbering 1 End;' What are they?

2010-08-18 Thread Larry Evans

On 08/18/10 12:04, RA Brown wrote:

Larry Evans wrote:

[snip]

How can I find out what these styles do?

[snip]

Larry,

With the Styles and Formatting window open and the List Styles selected,
right click on the style your interested in. In the pop-up select
Modify. Another window opens with the setting for that style. Each of
the tabs has settings related to that style. Each style has its own
setting and relations within the document.

HTH.

Andy


Yes, it helps a lot.  I'd seen this before but forgot about it.
However, I'm still having to resort to trial an error to figure out
exactly what the 'Numbering 1; Numbering 1 Start; Numbering 1 Cont; 
Numbering 1 End' should be used for.  I'm guessing they're related;

however, I've been guessing that maybe:

  Numbering 1
- starts the whole list of number paragraphs.
  Numbering 1 Start
- Starts a numbered paragraph with the next number
  with possibly unnumbered 'subparagraphs'.
  Numbering 1 Cont
- Starts an unnumbered subparagraph that is at the same
  indentation as the last paragraph created with
  'Numbering 1 Start.
  Numbering 1 End
 - Ends the list paragraphs

IOW,

  #Start the numbering paragraphs with 'Numbering 1'

  1.  Numbering 1 Start paragraph.

  Numbering 1 Cont paragraph.

  Numbering 1 Cont paragraph.

  2.  Numbering 1 Start paragraph.

  Numbering 1 Cont paragraph.

  Numbering 1 Cont paragraph.

...

  #end the numbering paragraphs with 'Numbering 1 End

where the # in the above indicates the user has just clicked on the 
style described by the words following the 3 to somehow start or end

the list of paragraphs.  Note that this is intuitively what one used
to html ol/li/eol would expect.  However, there's nothing I can see
that suggests this and I'm having to use trial and error (and this
list) to find an answer.

Any help appreciated and maybe suggestions for improving the docs
so novices like me wouldn't bother others.

-regards,
Larry




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[users] Thanks (was Re: Styles: 'List; List 1; List 1 Start; Numbering 1; Numbering 1 Start; Numbering 1 End;' What are they?

2010-08-18 Thread Larry Evans

On 08/18/10 13:15, RA Brown wrote:
[snip]

Any help appreciated and maybe suggestions for improving the docs
so novices like me wouldn't bother others.
-regards,
Larry


Hi Larry,

I have added this to my to do list and will follow-up as soon as
possible.

Andy


Thanks very much Andy.


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[users] Howto use set reference/insert reference to retrieve paragraph number?

2010-08-06 Thread Larry Evans

I've got some numbered paragraphs:

  1. Paragraph1.

 Sentence1.

 Sentence2.

  2. Paragraph2.

 Sentence1.
 Sentence2.

 Sentence3.

manual-page-break

  3. Paragraph3.

 Sentence1.

 Sentence2.  See paragraph numbered ref-to-number-of-Paragraph2.

I've tried selecting the 2. of Paragraph 2; however, that highlights 
*all* the numbers of the paragraphs.  I went ahead and tried inserting

a cross-reference:Set Reference: with Name=second_para then, after
that, tried replacing the ref-to-number-of-Paragraph2 by inserting a 
cross-reference:Insert Reference with Name=second_para; however, no 
number 2 appeared.  Only a small shaded blank appeared.


How do I get the number 2 to appear where I inserted the Insert Reference?

TIA.

-Larry


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[users] Re: Howto use set reference/insert reference to retrieve paragraph number?

2010-08-06 Thread Larry Evans

On 08/06/10 13:00, RA Brown wrote:

Larry Evans wrote:

I've got some numbered paragraphs:

  1. Paragraph1.

 Sentence1.

 Sentence2.

  2. Paragraph2.

 Sentence1.
 Sentence2.

 Sentence3.

manual-page-break

  3. Paragraph3.

 Sentence1.

 Sentence2.  See paragraph numbered ref-to-number-of-Paragraph2.

I've tried selecting the 2. of Paragraph 2; however, that highlights 
*all* the numbers of the paragraphs.  I went ahead and tried inserting

a cross-reference:Set Reference: with Name=second_para then, after
that, tried replacing the ref-to-number-of-Paragraph2 by inserting a 
cross-reference:Insert Reference with Name=second_para; however, no 
number 2 appeared.  Only a small shaded blank appeared.


How do I get the number 2 to appear where I inserted the Insert 
Reference?


TIA.

-Larry


Larry,

Not much to go on but have you checked View  Field Names?

If you can send me a copy of your file direct and I will see what I can 
find.


Andy

Thanks Andy; however, I had this problem before:

  http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?listName=usersmsgNo=186570

I'd forgotten about that, but apparently the solution is to upgrade.
However, as shown in the rest of that thread, I had problems doing that.
Looking at my download/OpenOffice directory, I see:

  OOo_3.2.0_LinuxX86-64_install_en-US_deb.tar

the contents of which include:


OOO320_m12_native_packed-1_en-US.9483/
OOO320_m12_native_packed-1_en-US.9483/readmes/
OOO320_m12_native_packed-1_en-US.9483/readmes/README_en-US.html
OOO320_m12_native_packed-1_en-US.9483/readmes/README_en-US
OOO320_m12_native_packed-1_en-US.9483/DEBS/
OOO320_m12_native_packed-1_en-US.9483/DEBS/openoffice.org3-calc_3.2.0-12_amd64.deb
OOO320_m12_native_packed-1_en-US.9483/DEBS/ooobasis3.2-writer_3.2.0-12_amd64.deb


There's also the directory:


 OOO320_m12_native_packed-1_en-US.9483


indicating I did tar xf the .tar file.  The work.log I created in the
same directory indicated I tried using update in the
*/US9483/ directory; however, the output from that
indicated the upgrade was incomplete.  At that point
I must have given up.  That was back in 2010-03-30.

I may try again, but maybe not :(











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[users] Re: Howto use set reference/insert reference to retrieve paragraph number?

2010-08-06 Thread Larry Evans

On 08/06/10 13:31, Larry Evans wrote:
[snip]

On 08/06/10 13:00, RA Brown wrote:

[snip]
If you can send me a copy of your file direct and I will see what I 

can find.

Andy

Thanks Andy; however, I had this problem before:

  http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?listName=usersmsgNo=186570

I'd forgotten about that, but apparently the solution is to upgrade.
However, as shown in the rest of that thread, I had problems doing that.

[snip]

*/US9483/ directory; however, the output from that
indicated the upgrade was incomplete.  At that point
I must have given up.  That was back in 2010-03-30.

I may try again, but maybe not :(


I tried again, with:

http://download.services.openoffice.org/files/stable/3.2.1/OOo_3.2.1_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US.tar.gz

After unzipping and untarring, then follwed directions posted here:

http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=usersmsgNo=186815

The first time, the output showed conflicts; so, I used synaptic to 
remove all existing openoffice installs and tried:


  sudo dpkg -i *.deb desktop-integration/*.deb

within:

~/download/OpenOffice/3.2.1/OOO320_m18_native_packed-1_en-US.9502/DEBS

After that, the Applications:Office menu had several OpenOffice.org
entries, e.g.:

  OpenOffice.org
  OpenOffice.org 3.2 Base
  OpenOffice.org 3.2 Calc
  ...

but no writer.

How can I get writer?  Also, clicking on the 1st menu item:

  OpenOffice.org

results in an error dialog:

  Could not launch menu item

  Failed to execute child process
  oofromtemplate(No such file or directory)

How can I correct that?

TiA.

-Larry


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[users] Re: Howto use set reference/insert reference to retrieve paragraph number?

2010-08-06 Thread Larry Evans

On 08/06/10 17:33, Larry Evans wrote:
[snip]


After that, the Applications:Office menu had several OpenOffice.org
entries, e.g.:

  OpenOffice.org
  OpenOffice.org 3.2 Base
  OpenOffice.org 3.2 Calc
  ...

but no writer.


[snip]
Synaptic showed the location of the OpenOffice.org 3 files; so, I
looked at several of those and found /usr/bin/soffice (symlinked to
/opt/openoffice.org3/program/soffice) was apparently the main driver.
Tried:

  soffice -writer

and the openoffice.org3 splash screen appeared followed by a blank
document.

Still, it would be nice to get the menu item launcher corrected.

-Larry


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[users] Re: how to expand insert reference formats?

2008-10-04 Thread Larry Evans

On 10/04/08 05:52, Jean-Baptiste Faure wrote:

Le 03.10.2008 15:39, Larry Evans a écrit :

[snip]

Thanks, Jean-Baptiste; however, I tried to download from:

  http://openoffice.bouncer.osuosl.org/download-form.php

by selecting:

  OpenOffice.org-3.0.0rc3 | linuxx86-64deb | en-US(en-US)

and got message in red below _Download Chooser_:

  * The download you selected is not available. Please try again later.

so I guess I'll have to try again later :(

-Larry

Hi Larry,

You can try here : ftp://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/openoffice/extended/3.0.0rc3/

JBF


Thanks Jean-Baptiste; however, I've taken Noop's suggestion and
downloaded from:

ftp://openoffice.cs.utah.edu/pub/openoffice/contrib/rc/3.0.0rc3/OOo_3.0.0rc3_20080927_LinuxX86-64_install_en-US_deb.tar.gz

I've unzipped and untarred but haven't yet dpkg'ed.  I tried
the update script, but got an error, and so I plan to do, in the DEBS
subdirectory:

  dpkg -i *.deb  /desktop-integration/*.deb

because I remember reading about that method
somewhere (can't remember where).  Do you think
that will work?

TIA.

-Larry



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[users] Re: how to expand insert reference formats?

2008-10-04 Thread Larry Evans

On 10/02/08 00:28, Jean-Baptiste Faure wrote:

Le 28.09.2008 21:07, Larry Evans a écrit :

[snip]

To repeat what the OP requested, what I want is given a numbered list,
e.g.

  1. item_1
  2. item_2

I want to set a reference at item_2 and then insert a reference to
that reference in another part of the document.  For example, I may
want to say:

  See item 2.


[snip]

If I understand well, it's available in OOo 3.0 :

menu Insert  Cross-reference  Numbered paragraphs and choose what you 
want in Insert reference to



Yes!  just tried with 3.0 and it works.
Thanks.


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[users] Re: how to expand insert reference formats?

2008-10-03 Thread Larry Evans

On 10/02/08 00:28, Jean-Baptiste Faure wrote:

Le 28.09.2008 21:07, Larry Evans a écrit :

[snip]

To repeat what the OP requested, what I want is given a numbered list,
e.g.

  1. item_1
  2. item_2

I want to set a reference at item_2 and then insert a reference to
that reference in another part of the document.  For example, I may
want to say:

  See item 2.

in another part of the document.  However, instead of hard-coding the
2, I want the inserted reference to automatically update the
refererence so that if I insert an item between 1. and 2., the
inserted reference will show as 3.  This can be done now if the
inserted reference's format is Page; however, it just updates the
page number, not the item number.  How can the set of available
reference formats be expanded to allow retrieval of item number as
well as page number?

[snip]


If I understand well, it's available in OOo 3.0 :

menu Insert  Cross-reference  Numbered paragraphs and choose what you 
want in Insert reference to


JBF


Thanks, Jean-Baptiste; however, I tried to download from:

  http://openoffice.bouncer.osuosl.org/download-form.php

by selecting:

  OpenOffice.org-3.0.0rc3 | linuxx86-64deb | en-US(en-US)

and got message in red below _Download Chooser_:

  * The download you selected is not available. Please try again later.

so I guess I'll have to try again later :(

-Larry


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[users] Re: how to expand insert reference formats?

2008-10-01 Thread Larry Evans

On 09/28/08 14:07, Larry Evans wrote:

In the following post:

  http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.openoffice.questions/187973

I wondered whether a filter could be used to solve the problem of


I posted a request for this feature to:

http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/FeatureSuggestions#Crossref_showing_Listitem_Number


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[users] [writer]Can't delete HR in obvious way

2008-09-30 Thread Larry Evans

I've a very simple write file with what appears
as a horizontal rule (HR) below a paragraph marker
(revealed with Ctrl+F10).  However, there's
no obvious way to delete either.  For example,
when cursor is placed before the paragraph
mark, and then Delete key pressed, nothing
happens.  Backspace has no effect either.
I can't move the cursor with arrow keys.

The only way I can get remove the HR is
Ctrl+Shift+Space (Default formatting).

I've looked at the content.xml entry
in the .odt file; however, that has
nothing, AFAICT, corresponding to
the HR.  The contents, starting at the office:body
element, are:
--cut here--
 office:body
  office:text
   text:sequence-decls
text:sequence-decl text:display-outline-level=0 
text:name=Illustration/

text:sequence-decl text:display-outline-level=0 text:name=Table/
text:sequence-decl text:display-outline-level=0 text:name=Text/
text:sequence-decl text:display-outline-level=0 
text:name=Drawing/

   /text:sequence-decls
   text:p text:style-name=P1/
  /office:text
 /office:body

--cut here--

I'm using OpendOffice.org 2.4.1 on ubuntu.

How can I select the HR and delete it with Ctrl+X?
How can I do the same with the paragraph mark?

TIA.

-Larry


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[users] Re: [writer]Can't delete HR in obvious way

2008-09-30 Thread Larry Evans

On 09/30/08 10:14, Harold Fuchs wrote:

On 30/09/2008 16:04, Harold Fuchs wrote:

On 30/09/2008 15:44, Larry Evans wrote:

I've a very simple write file with what appears
as a horizontal rule (HR) below a paragraph marker
(revealed with Ctrl+F10).  However, there's

[snip]

How can I select the HR and delete it with Ctrl+X?
How can I do the same with the paragraph mark?

Don't know about Ubuntu but in OOo 2.4.1 on Windows XP Pro I can click 
*inside* the HR and then Ctrl-X deletes it. After clicking in the HR I 
get green draggable handles at its corners and centres-of-sides; to 
me that implies the HR is a graphic and can be treated as such.


For the paragraph mark, position the cursor to its left and hit 
backspace. Again, that works on my Windows system ...


Sorry to reply to my own post. The above applies to HRs that are other 
than Plain. As Jonothon said, plain HRs are a paragraph style so click 
at its left  end and change the style to, say, Default. Then delete the 
paragraph as normal.




Thanks Harold and Jonathon.

I tried clicking at its left with mouse-pointer-right (I think that's
called mouse-pointer-3), and got a pop-up menu. Selecting Default (at 
top) rm'ed the HR. Thanks.


The HR was produced by inserting several _'s starting at left margin, 
then hitting CR.  After that, there was a paragraph mark above and below 
the HR; however, placing cursor to left of top mark and hitting

backspace did nothing. I would have expected hitting delete would
delete to the right of the cursor; however, that did nothing also.
With two paragraph marks, one above the other, backspace does delete
one(I guess the top one).  So, is it impossible to delete the 1st 
paragraph mark to leave no paragraph marks in a document?


-Larry


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[users] Re: [writer]Can't delete HR in obvious way

2008-09-30 Thread Larry Evans

On 09/30/08 11:44, norseman wrote:
[snip]

==
I'm on Linux.  I just opened OOo's swriter and dummied up a page. Then 
did the _'scr and got the hard line.


Playing with it yielded the following information:

Place cursor on a blank line above the hard line if possible or at left 
end and open at least two blank lines and then place cursor just above 
hard line.
Press Backspace and the hard line goes away. Repeat for each and all 
you wish to remove and each goes bye-bye.


HTH

Steve
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks Steve.

After open at least two blank lines by placing cursor
at left of top paragraph mark (I couldn't place it on the
hard line.  Apparently the hard line is on the same
physical line as the 2nd paragraph mark.)  However,
this resulted in not two blank lines but two hard lines.
Backspacing then erased these two, but left the original.

This seems counter-intuitive to me.  I would have expected
something like what Jonathan described, i.e. selecting the
hardline and the doing Ctrl-X to delete it.



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[users] Re: [writer]Can't delete HR in obvious way

2008-09-30 Thread Larry Evans

On 09/30/08 12:14, Larry Evans wrote:
[snip]

This seems counter-intuitive to me.  I would have expected

something like what Jonathan described, i.e. selecting the
hardline and the doing Ctrl-X to delete it.

OOPS,  That was Harold, not Jonathon:

After clicking in the HR I get green draggable handles at its corners and centres-of-sides; to me that implies the HR is a graphic and can be treated as such. 


Sorry.


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[users] emacs can edit odt members (was Re: [writer]Can't delete HR in obvious way

2008-09-30 Thread Larry Evans

On 09/30/08 16:45, norseman wrote:

norseman wrote:

[snip]


OK - there is a bug in OOo 2.

I got your file and opened it.  The hardline is the only thing there and 
it appears on 2nd type-able line. The cursor sits on empty line one. NO 
amount of effort, including CTRL-whatever, works to eliminate it.  Just 
as you have indicated.




Thanks for taking a look (and reassuring me that I wasn't doing
something stupid).



1) If there is a show-codes in OOo I haven't found it.
2) Saving to text destroys all formatting - not going to happen
3) Saving to .rtf  does work. If document wasn't too far from
 'standard' or compatible formats this works. see attached

The problem with zip files is they aren't editable when they need to be.
OOo -- take note of that. OK?  OOo needs to have an option to write 
uncompressed output for just such occasions as these.  Space saving is 
fine, but not at the expense of production.


Steve,

I was able to edit the content.xml member of the WorkWithFields.odt
with emacs.  More specifically, I created a 2 item list where
first item had text, Item 1 and the 2nd had Item 2.
I saved the file and then closed it.  Then, with emacs,
I edited the content.xml member of the .odt file and changed
Item 2 to item_2.  When I reopened the file in writer,
the 2nd item appeared as item_2.

-Larry


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[users] how to expand insert reference formats?

2008-09-28 Thread Larry Evans

In the following post:

  http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.openoffice.questions/187973

I wondered whether a filter could be used to solve the problem of
retrieving the item number of a particular list item in a numbered
list. I thought maybe it could be done with a filter; however, since
reading more about filters, that doesn't seem possible since they seem
to deal with just importing and exporting and not updating an existing
document.  However, the 'update fields' command does something
similar; hence, I'm wondering if there's someway to adapt that command
or create a new one that does exactly what I want.

To repeat what the OP requested, what I want is given a numbered list,
e.g.

  1. item_1
  2. item_2

I want to set a reference at item_2 and then insert a reference to
that reference in another part of the document.  For example, I may
want to say:

  See item 2.

in another part of the document.  However, instead of hard-coding the
2, I want the inserted reference to automatically update the
refererence so that if I insert an item between 1. and 2., the
inserted reference will show as 3.  This can be done now if the
inserted reference's format is Page; however, it just updates the
page number, not the item number.  How can the set of available
reference formats be expanded to allow retrieval of item number as
well as page number?


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[users] Re: Crossreferencing to a listitem number

2008-09-21 Thread Larry Evans

On 01/05/08 10:53, Michele wrote:

On Jan 3, 2008 7:56 PM, Mats Broberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[snip]

and the footnote area. It will look the same, but relies on that the
crossref can return the actual autonumber of the listitem.

[snip]

I am not sure I understand what you are trying to do, but a while ago I
needed to reference a numbered item and I solved the problem with simple
trick (you may want to replace simple with dirty, it's a matter of taste :-)
):
What I did was to add as *hidden text* the number of the item next to the
actual number automatically generated, then then referenced it. The drawback
is that if someone activates the show hidden text they will call your
bluff.


[snip]
Hi Michele,

I tried to do as you described; however, when I entered the hidden
text (e.g. hidden text, 2, for the 2nd item in the list), there
was no entry field for the name of the hidden text; hence, there was
not way I could reference it from another part of the document.
IOW, the only two entry field labels for the Hidden text were:

  Condition
  Hidden text

What am I missing?

TIA

-Larry




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[users] Re: Crossreferencing to a listitem number

2008-09-19 Thread Larry Evans

On 01/05/08 10:53, Michele wrote:

On Jan 3, 2008 7:56 PM, Mats Broberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Dan,

Thanks - but I need it to print at the crossref position (physically on
paper).

The reason I need this behavior is that I am adding endnotes to the body
and
footnote area of a historical text that already has footnotes. So to
emulate
endnotes, I thought I could crossref an autonumbered list from the body
area
and the footnote area. It will look the same, but relies on that the
crossref can return the actual autonumber of the listitem.

Thanks anyway.

Best regards,
Mats



Hello Mats,

I am not sure I understand what you are trying to do, but a while ago I
needed to reference a numbered item and I solved the problem with simple
trick (you may want to replace simple with dirty, it's a matter of taste :-)
):
What I did was to add as *hidden text* the number of the item next to the
actual number automatically generated, then then referenced it. The drawback
is that if someone activates the show hidden text they will call your
bluff.

If you go for it and need to repeat this several times, I suggest you create
a character style specifying the attribute hidden (saves a lot of
clicking).

I tried to use the hidden text variable (which I think is the right way of
doing it), but did not manage because the reference inherits the property
hidden.

Cheers,

Michele



Docbook has a simple way of doing this.  Attached are the input .xml
file and the (pretty printed) output .html file.
Also attached is the .xsl file doing the transformation.

I read somewhere in OOoWriter docs about filters.  I'm guessing
that a filter is somewhat like the .xsl file in that it does
some kind of transform on the doc. Maybe a filter
could do this numbering semi-automatically.
IOW, maybe as your composing the doc, the cross reference
numbers might appear as ?num? and then after the filter
is run they would have the proper numbers filled in.

Are there any filter experts out there that could shed
some light on this question?

BTW, my motivation for this is that I've got a legal
document from a lawyer, and he just left the paragraph
reference number blank.  I guess he anticipates inserting
or deleting paragraphs and figured why hardcode the paragraph
number in.  I also have a similar document from another
lawyer and the paragraph number was filled in; however,
it was off by one, AFAICT.  This illustrates the
importance of having this automated.  IOW, have a unique
identifier (like the id attribute for an xml element),
which the filter (or whatever) can use to retrieve or calculate
the correct paragraph (or listitem) number.

-Larry
?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8?
!DOCTYPE chapter PUBLIC -//OASIS//DTD DocBook XML V4.5//EN
http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.5/docbookx.dtd;
!--
  Purpose:
test how to reference an listitem number.
--
chaptertitlechapter_1.title/title
para
Paragraph before orderedlist.
See item xref linkend='ordlist_1.item_2.title'/.
/para
orderedlist
listitempara id='ordlist_1.item_1.title'ordlist_1.item_1.title/para
paraordlist_1.item_1.para_1/para
paraordlist_1.item_1.para_2/para
/listitem
listitempara id='ordlist_1.item_2.title'ordlist_1.item_2.title/para
paraordlist_1.item_2.para_1/para
paraordlist_1.item_2.para_2/para
/listitem
/orderedlist
para
Paragraph after orderedlist. 
See item xref linkend='ordlist_1.item_1.title'/.
/para
/chapter


listitem_num_ref.xsl
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[users] missing listitem_num_ref.html file (was Re: Crossreferencing to a listitem number

2008-09-19 Thread Larry Evans

On 09/19/08 08:27, Larry Evans wrote:
[snip]

Docbook has a simple way of doing this.  Attached are the input .xml
file and the (pretty printed) output .html file.
Also attached is the .xsl file doing the transformation.


For some reason my mailer dropped the .html file.  I tried again to
attach it here.
[snip]

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[users] once again with cutpaste (was Re: missing listitem_num_ref.html file (was Re: Crossreferencing to a listitem number

2008-09-19 Thread Larry Evans

On 09/19/08 08:46, Larry Evans wrote:

On 09/19/08 08:27, Larry Evans wrote:
[snip]

Docbook has a simple way of doing this.  Attached are the input .xml
file and the (pretty printed) output .html file.
Also attached is the .xsl file doing the transformation.


For some reason my mailer dropped the .html file.  I tried again to
attach it here.
[snip]

Failed again.  Thie following is just a cutpaste quoted copy.


!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN

html
head
  meta name=generator content=
  HTML Tidy for Linux (vers 6 November 2007), see www.w3.org
  meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=
  text/html; charset=us-ascii

  titleChapternbsp;1.nbsp;chapter_1.title/title
  meta name=generator content=DocBook XSL Stylesheets V1.73.2
/head

body bgcolor=white text=black link=#FF vlink=#840084
alink=#FF
  div class=chapter lang=en
div class=titlepage
  div
div
  h2 class=titlea name=id257669 id=
  id257669/aChapternbsp;1.nbsp;chapter_1.title/h2
/div
  /div
/div

pParagraph before orderedlist. See item a class=xref href=
#ordlist_1.item_2.title2/a/p

div class=orderedlist
  ol type=1
li
  pa name=ordlist_1.item_1.title id=
  ordlist_1.item_1.title/aordlist_1.item_1.title/p

  pordlist_1.item_1.para_1/p

  pordlist_1.item_1.para_2/p
/li

li
  pa name=ordlist_1.item_2.title id=
  ordlist_1.item_2.title/aordlist_1.item_2.title/p

  pordlist_1.item_2.para_1/p

  pordlist_1.item_2.para_2/p
/li
  /ol
/div

pParagraph after ordered list. See item a class=xref href=
#ordlist_1.item_1.title1/a/p
  /div
/body
/html



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[users] solved insert/show ref (was Re: [writer]insert ref; set ref; insert ref just shows ref name

2008-09-11 Thread Larry Evans

On 09/10/08 23:02, Larry Evans wrote:

These are the steps to reproduce the problem:

  Insert:Fields:Other:ReferencesTab:Set Reference:Name=ref0

[snip]
Someone emailed me privately with what should have been
an obvious answer. Sorry for noise :(

-Larry


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[users] [writer]customize keyboard:prior next keys?

2008-09-11 Thread Larry Evans

When looking at the cusomize:keyboard tab (access from Tools menu),
with Category=Naviage, I see in the Shortcut Keys screen, keys names
with Prior and Next in their name.  I've no Prior or Next keys on my
keyboard.  What keys are they on my (I guess) USA keyboard?

Also, I guess if I want to change a certain key name to a different
function, I have to find it with an existing function, and then
change it there, because when the Keys screen is uneditable.
Is that right?


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[users] Re: [writer]customize keyboard:prior next keys?

2008-09-11 Thread Larry Evans
Also, where a the functions shown in the 'Shortcut Keys' screen 
documented.  On function (the one attached to F9) is only

list as 'fields'.  When I press help, and then search for
'fields', nothing helpful appears.

Where are these functions defined?  It would be nice
if the function names appearing in the 'Shortcut Keys'
screen would be hyperlinked to the function defintion
or description.  Any chance of that happening?

TIA.

-Larry


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[users] Re: [writer]customize keyboard:prior next keys?

2008-09-11 Thread Larry Evans

On 09/11/08 10:21, Jim Allan wrote:

Larry Evans wrote:

When looking at the cusomize:keyboard tab (access from Tools menu),
with Category=Naviage, I see in the Shortcut Keys screen, keys names
with Prior and Next in their name.  I've no Prior or Next keys on my
keyboard.  What keys are they on my (I guess) USA keyboard?


Under the Windows XP machine I am currently using, with OOo 2.4.1, the 
keys listed are:
F1, F2, F3, F4, F5, F5, F7, F8, F9, F10, F11, F12, Down, Up, Left, 
Right, Home, End, Page Up, Page Down, Enter, Esc, Backspace, Insert, 
Delete.


These are followed by “Shit-” and the same keys, then by “Ctrl-” 
followed by various keys.


I don’t see “Prior” or “Next” anywhere.


That's the first screen I see to; however, when I set Category=Navigate,
I see the Next and Prior keys.  After a little more trial and error
exploring, I found that Next and Prior correspond to the PageDown
and PageUp keys.  However, there should be a link from each of
these key names to their location of a keyboard; otherwise,
questions like mine arise on this list :(




Also, I guess if I want to change a certain key name to a different
function, I have to find it with an existing function, and then
change it there, because when the Keys screen is uneditable.
Is that right?


The Keys screen is editable if you mouse-press “Modify” and then use the 
panels below to associate that key with a function. But that is really 
the only editing you can do.


So, the key combination has to be somewhere in the 'Shortcut Keys'
screen in order to set or change it's meaning.  I notice that
some keys in the 'Shortcut Keys' screen are blank, and I guess
if I don't want to change any existing keys, I choose one
of those.  For example, with Category=Havgate, I see
Ctrl+Shift+Prior is blank; therefore, I can set this
to any existing key functions. OTOH, if I prefer Ctrl+Shift+Home,
for the function I want (e.g. 'Goto next input field' then
I'd have to do without the short cut to the existing
function associated with Ctrl+Shift+Home, i.e. 'Select to
Document Begin'.



Jim Allan


Thanks Jjm.

-Larry Evans


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[users] [writer]duplicate input field names?

2008-09-11 Thread Larry Evans

I created an input field with name=inp-fun-field0'.
Then, a few lines down, I created another input field.
I guess, by accident, I gave it the same name, inp-fun-field0.
Isn't that a bug?  I'd expect the input field names are
unique; otherwise, that's the purpose of the name?  If
the name is only a description, then maybe I could
understand it, but 'name' at least to me, suggests
a unique value.

Help search for 'input field' did show an 'Input Field'
link; however, when I went there, it had, in bold,
Input Field, but didn't mention anything about unniqueness
of the name.

TIA

-Larry


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[users] Re: [writer]duplicate input field names?

2008-09-11 Thread Larry Evans

On 09/11/08 12:39, norseman wrote:

Larry Evans wrote:

I created an input field with name=inp-fun-field0'.
Then, a few lines down, I created another input field.
I guess, by accident, I gave it the same name, inp-fun-field0.
Isn't that a bug?  I'd expect the input field names are
unique; otherwise, that's the purpose of the name?  If
the name is only a description, then maybe I could
understand it, but 'name' at least to me, suggests
a unique value.

Help search for 'input field' did show an 'Input Field'
link; however, when I went there, it had, in bold,
Input Field, but didn't mention anything about unniqueness
of the name.

TIA

-Larry


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===
I'm not seeing a detail I would like to know about.
If you put text or number 1 in first of duplicate field entry and 2 in 
second, what happens then?  Do both go to second value when used?


If so - overwriting is allowed.  If not, The application programmer 
needs to answer your question. I assume case and such are also matching 
because differing case means differing variables.


The norm is: Each variable has to be unique in order to be discernible.
The exception occurs in Excel.  When line 1 has the same text in 
different columns and the file is written out as a CSV, duplicate field 
names are kept.  Excel, when making CSV or DBF files, voids the rules 
and neither are then directly usable in data base work.  Excel is 
position based only. Labels mean nothing.  I recently had to work with a 
set of files in which each had three different field names repeated 36 
times each.  I had to write a black box to straighten them (several 
hundred files) out for subsequent use.


Steve
norseman

Steve,

Your mention of Excel suggests your'e talking about OOCalc, not write,
the word processor.  My problem was with the word processor (I thought
the [writer] in subject line would indicate that).

To answer your question, the two entries seem completely independent.
I can change the value in one and it's not reflected in the other.
Is that the intention or is there a bug in my OOoWriter.

To be specific about which writer, the help:about shows:

openoffice.org-core 1:2.4.1-1ubuntu2.Mon Jun 30 11:50:15 UTC 2008.



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[users] [writer]insert ref; set ref; insert ref just shows ref name

2008-09-10 Thread Larry Evans

These are the steps to reproduce the problem:

  Insert:Fields:Other:ReferencesTab:Set Reference:Name=ref0

At this point, the Value field is unwritable; so, I just press
the close button.  This results in a small shaded portion in
the document.  When the cursor is placed over this shaded portion,
a small window contains Reference:ref0 overlays the document.
After a few carriage returns, I do:

  Insert:Fields:Other:ReferencesTab
  :Insert Reference:Select=ref0:Format=Page

This causes a shaded ref0 to appear in the document where
I would have expected a 1 because that's where the :Set Reference:
was done.  Isn't that a bug.  Also, what's the purpose of the
unwritable value field during the :Set Reference:?  I would have
expected that some value could be entered in this field and
then that value would appear on the page.

Obviously I'm missing something and the help doesn't
help because under Format it says the Page format should
insert the number of the page containing the target
(and by target I assume it means where the :Set Reference:
was done).

Do I have a bug or is there just something I'm missing.

The about under help shows at the bottom:

openoffice.org-core 1:2.4.1-1ubuntu2.Mon Jun 30 11:50:15 UTC 2008

Thanks for any help.

-Larry





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[users] Re: OOwriter equivalent of html p tag?

2008-08-22 Thread Larry Evans

On 08/21/08 23:39, Joe Smith wrote:

Larry Evans wrote:

...
Is there a way to just say I want another paragraph under
the existing list item?


Look on the Bullets and Numering toolbar, there's a button with the 
tooltip Insert Unnumbered Entry.


You can also do this with the keyboard: when you type Return to start a 
new paragraph and Writer shows a new numbered entry, type Backspace: the 
number (or bullet) will be removed but the paragraph is still part of 
the list.


Joe


Thanks!  That's exactly what I needed.  It works both ways you
described although I had to press several different buttons on
the rhs of the toolsbars to find it.  To be more specific, my
screen appears:

  File|Edit|View|...|Help... x
  -
  ?/home/evansl/...? | new_icon|...|
  -
  style_icon|?Default?|...||

where . denotes some button with a graphic in it.
?.? denotes some text entry field
  denotes some drop down menu

I found the Insert Unnumbered Entry  on the 3ird
row (rows are separated by ) at
the 2nd 

I guess I would have found this eventually after
spending more time with Writer; however, I very
much appreciate your help in getting me there
much sooner :)

-kind regards,
Larry


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[users] OOwriter equivalent of html p tag?

2008-08-21 Thread Larry Evans

In a numbered list, there's several items in which I want several
paragraphs; however, whenever I hit carriage return, the next
numbered item appears instead of just another paragraph under
the current item.

What I need is someway to emulate the html p.../p or
the xml para.../para; however, I can't figure how to
do that. The closest I've got is a manual line break.

Is there a way to just say I want another paragraph under
the existing list item?

-Larry


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[users] Re: OOwriter equivalent of html p tag?

2008-08-21 Thread Larry Evans

On 08/21/08 15:53, Anthony Chilco wrote:

Hi Larry,
Use shift-return to go to the new line. When you want the next number in 
the list, use return.

tc

Larry Evans wrote:

[snip]

do that. The closest I've got is a manual line break.



Thanks tc; however that shift-return is the short-cut for the
manual line break I mentioned in my OP.  It's close,
but not quite what I want.  The only way I can
signal a separate paragraph is to do this twice,
leaving an empty line.  I'd rather just have the first
line indented a certain amount to signal a new paragraph.


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[users] Re: OOwriter equivalent of html p tag?

2008-08-21 Thread Larry Evans

On 08/21/08 16:26, Dotan Cohen wrote:

2008/8/21 Larry Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

In a numbered list, there's several items in which I want several
paragraphs; however, whenever I hit carriage return, the next
numbered item appears instead of just another paragraph under
the current item.

What I need is someway to emulate the html p.../p or
the xml para.../para; however, I can't figure how to
do that. The closest I've got is a manual line break.

Is there a way to just say I want another paragraph under
the existing list item?



Try hitting Ctrl-Z (or whatever is Undo on your platform) when OOo
autonumbers. It will keep your paragraph, but undo the autonumber.


Thanks, Dotan; however, I tried Ctrl-Z and that just undid the
return (IOW, the number was deleted and the cursor moved up to
the previous line).

I also tried the undo icon on toolbar and same thing happened :(

Thanks for the help thought!


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[users] Re: Whats OOWriter equivalent to Docbook entities?

2008-08-19 Thread Larry Evans

On 08/18/08 21:35, Larry Evans wrote:
 At the top of my xml file, I can define named entities
 in which to store values.  Those values can then be
 retrieved by simply delimiting the entity's name
 with  and ;.

 How can this or something similar be done in OOWriter?

I should have mentioned, the OOoWriter about shows:

  openoffice.org-core 1.2.4.1-1ubuntu2, Mon Jun 30 11:50:15 UTC 2008

Also, I have tried using insert variable and then selecting

  Set Variable | field1.name  | field1.valu

and also selected the text format.  I then tried inserting the
variable elsewhere:

  Show variable | field1.name | ABC

however, that just showed a small shaded portion
at the insertion point.  I wanted to see field1.valu
at the insertion point.

I've also tried inserting references to input fields, but that didn't
work either.

Please, what am I doing wrong?


TIA.

-Larry


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[users] Whats OOWriter equivalent to Docbook entities?

2008-08-18 Thread Larry Evans

At the top of my xml file, I can define named entities
in which to store values.  Those values can then be
retrieved by simply delimiting the entity's name
with  and ;.

How can this or something similar be done in OOWriter?


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