Re: [users] Re: Install ooo 2.0.3 under Suse Linux 10.1

2006-07-24 Thread James E. Lang
Osvaldo wrote on 22 Jul 06:

 Hi:
There are unofficial prepackaged versions of OpenOffice 
 by SUSE/Novell  in  
 ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/OpenOffice.org/10.1-i386/2.0.3-1
 and mirrors (check the SUSE version (10.1) and the 
 architecture (i386)). 
 Download the packages you want to upgrade to an empty 
 directory and run from a root terminal/konsole
 rpm -Uvh *.rpm 
 (there must be a way of doing it with Yast by adding your
 directory as a package source, but I use the commnad line).
 rpm will order the packages, check dependencies and upgrade 
 (the U option) the existing ones echoing a hash # (the -h 
 option) as a sort of progress indication (-v means verbose, 
 just to know the process is alive).
 You may then have to reconfigure the QuickStarter (pointing 
 to the correct directory) if you are upgrading from a 1.x 
 version.
 The site hosts are also other prepackaged software like 
 Mozilla/Firefox.
 Hope this helps

Thanks Osvaldo.

This looks like the same thing that Pierre wrote about in another thread. Just 
a different URL. I presume that the second largest rpm file on that list is all 
that is needed to install OOo with U.S. English. Is that correct? I certainly 
don't need support for a whole bunch of languages.

I am using KDE to provide my desktop.

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Re: [users] Re: Install ooo 2.0.3 under Suse Linux 10.1

2006-07-22 Thread Osvaldo Clua
Hi:
   There are unofficial prepackaged versions of OpenOffice 
by SUSE/Novell  in  
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/OpenOffice.org/10.1-i386/2.0.3-1
and mirrors (check the SUSE version (10.1) and the 
architecture (i386)). 
Download the packages you want to upgrade to an empty 
directory and run from a root terminal/konsole
rpm -Uvh *.rpm 
(there must be a way of doing it with Yast by adding your
directory as a package source, but I use the commnad line).
rpm will order the packages, check dependencies and upgrade 
(the U option) the existing ones echoing a hash # (the -h 
option) as a sort of progress indication (-v means verbose, 
just to know the process is alive).
You may then have to reconfigure the QuickStarter (pointing 
to the correct directory) if yopu are upgrading from a 1.x 
version.
The site hosts are also other prepackaged software like 
Mozilla/Firefox.
Hope this helps
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Re: [users] Re: Install ooo 2.0.3 under Suse Linux 10.1

2006-07-21 Thread Don Cochron
I have Windows XP SP2. I completely uninstalled 2.0.2 and then installed 2.0.3. 
I have done this on two desktops I have with absolutely no problems.

Don

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 Victor Chapman wrote: 
  What is the correct process to upgrade from ver. 2.0.2 to 2.0.3. I have 
  tried this a couple of times and end up with a hybrid the old and the new. 
 
 Note, I am trying to install 2.0.3 
 
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Re: [users] Re: Install ooo 2.0.3 under Suse Linux 10.1

2006-07-21 Thread Dave Barton
On Thu, 2006-07-20 at 14:10 +, Don Cochron wrote:
 I have Windows XP SP2. I completely uninstalled 2.0.2 and then
 installed 2.0.3. I have done this on two desktops I have with
 absolutely no problems.
 
 Don

Hi Don,
Pleased to hear you have not had any problems. However, Victor's issue
was related to the Linux installation of OOo. Since the introduction of
OOo version 2.0 the installation procedure for Linux is very different
to that for Windows. The situation for Linux users is further
complicated by the different Linux distributors (eg.SuSE, Ubuntu, etc.)
including modified versions of OOo in their distributions, which in some
cases do not (by default) install to the same file system locations as
the official version.

BTW. I notice that your post to this list came through the moderated
process, which suggests you are not subscribed. In this case I would
have normally CC you direct, but since you responded to another user's
post, I guess you must be reading this list through some form of
newsgroup.

Dave

 -- Original message from Victor Chapman
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  Victor Chapman wrote: 
   What is the correct process to upgrade from ver. 2.0.2 to 2.0.3. I
 have 
   tried this a couple of times and end up with a hybrid the old and
 the new. 
  
  Note, I am trying to install 2.0.3
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Re: [users] Re: Install ooo 2.0.3 under Suse Linux 10.1

2006-07-21 Thread James E. Lang
Dave Barton wrote at 22:46 on 21 Jul 2006:

 ... Victor's issue was related to the Linux installation of OOo. Since the
 introduction of OOo version 2.0 the installation procedure for Linux is very
 different to that for Windows. The situation for Linux users is further
 complicated by the different Linux distributors (eg.SuSE, Ubuntu, etc.)
 including modified versions of OOo in their distributions, which in some
 cases do not (by default) install to the same file system locations as the
 official version. 
 

I, too, am a SuSE user. Do you have an answer for Victor's question? I want to 
upgrade from OOo 2.0 Novell Edition build 2.0.0.1 as released as a part of SuSE 
9.3 to the standard OOo version 2.0.3. What do I do in order to avoid the 
mishmash that Victor reports?

Should I completely uninstall the Novell Edition and then install version 
2.0.3? If so, what problems will that likely create for me when I later replace 
SuSE 9.3 with SuSE to 10.1? Will the very process of uninstalling lose any of 
my data files (I doubt it) or OOo settings (I suspect this could be a problem)? 
If so, what do I need to save before I uninstall? Should these files be 
restored to their original directories after installing version 2.0.3?

What else am I, as an untrained user, in need of knowing?

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   Victor Chapman wrote: 
What is the correct process to upgrade from ver. 2.0.2 to 2.0.3.
I have tried this a couple of times and end up with a hybrid the
old and the new. 
   
   Note, I am trying to install 2.0.3
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Re: [users] Re: Install ooo 2.0.3 under Suse Linux 10.1

2006-07-21 Thread Dave Barton
On Fri, 2006-07-21 at 12:41 -0700, James E. Lang wrote:
 Dave Barton wrote at 22:46 on 21 Jul 2006:
 
  ... Victor's issue was related to the Linux installation of OOo. Since the
  introduction of OOo version 2.0 the installation procedure for Linux is very
  different to that for Windows. The situation for Linux users is further
  complicated by the different Linux distributors (eg.SuSE, Ubuntu, etc.)
  including modified versions of OOo in their distributions, which in some
  cases do not (by default) install to the same file system locations as the
  official version. 
  
 
 I, too, am a SuSE user. Do you have an answer for Victor's question? I want 
 to 
 upgrade from OOo 2.0 Novell Edition build 2.0.0.1 as released as a part of 
 SuSE 
 9.3 to the standard OOo version 2.0.3. What do I do in order to avoid the 
 mishmash that Victor reports?

I have already answered Victor's question. Namely, uninstall the Novell
edition first.

 Should I completely uninstall the Novell Edition and then install version 
 2.0.3?

Yes.

 If so, what problems will that likely create for me when I later replace 
 SuSE 9.3 with SuSE to 10.1?

As far as OOo is concerned, I doubt that you will have any major
problems.

Regarding the change from 9.3 to 10.1, my recommendation would be to
wait for 10.2, but that's another story for another list.
Arguably, it is better to do a clean install, rather than attempt an
update from 9.x to 10.x. Some folks have succeeded, many have
experienced considerable problems. Check the SuSE list archives
http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-linux-e/

 Will the very process of uninstalling lose any of my data files (I
 doubt it) or OOo settings (I suspect this could be a problem)?

No your data files are safe. Your global settings will probably be lost,
but most of your personal settings should be OK, or least recoverable.

 If so, what do I need to save before I uninstall?

I would backup your home OOo directory and any special global
configurations you have changed (eg. dictionaries in
/openoffice.org2.0/share/dict/ooo. I can't be more specific, because I
don't know what customisation you have done.

 Should these files be restored to their original directories after
 installing version 2.0.3?

No, this is the main problem with the Novell/SuSE edition, they install
OOo under /usr, whereas the official edition is installed under /opt.
With the exception of your home OOo directory, the original directories
will no longer exist, or at least not contain anything useful.

 What else am I, as an untrained user, in need of knowing?

Nothing really. It may seem like a potential horror story, but in
reality it's fairly easy to get OOo set up and working the way you want
it.

Dave


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Re: [users] Re: Install ooo 2.0.3 under Suse Linux 10.1

2006-07-21 Thread James E. Lang
Dave Barton wrote at 17:48 on 21 Jul:
 On Fri, 2006-07-21 at 12:41 -0700, James E. Lang wrote:
  Dave Barton wrote at 22:46 on 21 Jul 2006:
  
   ... Victor's issue was related to the Linux installation of OOo. Since the
   introduction of OOo version 2.0 the installation procedure for Linux is 
   very
   different to that for Windows. The situation for Linux users is further
   complicated by the different Linux distributors (eg.SuSE, Ubuntu, etc.)
   including modified versions of OOo in their distributions, which in some
   cases do not (by default) install to the same file system locations as the
   official version. 
   
  
  I, too, am a SuSE user. Do you have an answer for Victor's question? I want 
  to 
  upgrade from OOo 2.0 Novell Edition build 2.0.0.1 as released as a part of 
  SuSE 
  9.3 to the standard OOo version 2.0.3. What do I do in order to avoid the 
  mishmash that Victor reports?
 
 I have already answered Victor's question. Namely, uninstall the Novell
 edition first.

Yes, After I posted my message I found a second thread that contained those 
answers.

  Should I completely uninstall the Novell Edition and then install version 
  2.0.3?
 
 Yes.
 
  If so, what problems will that likely create for me when I later replace 
  SuSE 9.3 with SuSE to 10.1?
 
 As far as OOo is concerned, I doubt that you will have any major
 problems.
 
 Regarding the change from 9.3 to 10.1, my recommendation would be to
 wait for 10.2, but that's another story for another list.
 Arguably, it is better to do a clean install, rather than attempt an
 update from 9.x to 10.x. Some folks have succeeded, many have
 experienced considerable problems. Check the SuSE list archives
 http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-linux-e/

Wow! All that spam! Wading through it I did find some postings that give me 
reason to think a second time. I just wish I had not spent the money for 10.1 
but better to leave the money wasted than to try to make use of the DVD and 
find that I have trash. I bought it because the download version is incomplete. 
They say it is because a dual layer DVD is needed to hold everything. Have they 
not heard that DVDs are cheap and that a two DVD download would solve that 
problem? Sorry about the off topic rant.

  Will the very process of uninstalling lose any of my data files (I
  doubt it) or OOo settings (I suspect this could be a problem)?
 
 No your data files are safe. Your global settings will probably be lost,
 but most of your personal settings should be OK, or least recoverable.
 
  If so, what do I need to save before I uninstall?
 
 I would backup your home OOo directory and any special global
 configurations you have changed (eg. dictionaries in
 /openoffice.org2.0/share/dict/ooo. I can't be more specific, because I
 don't know what customisation you have done.

home OOo directory Do you mean .ooo-2.0-pre or is there some other directory 
that you mean?

As for /openoffice.org2.0/share/... I have no directory at the root level named 
openoffice.org2.0 though I do find a subdirectory with that name under /opt 
I suppose that means that I already have a corrupted version. I think that I 
did try to install 2.0.2 some time back and since it did not appear to take I 
assumed that I had made a mistake in installing it and gave up. Now that I see 
this thread I know better what is going on. Ugh!

I've done no customization that required any significant technical knowledge. 
As for dictionaries, I've done nothing.

  Should these files be restored to their original directories after
  installing version 2.0.3?
 
 No, this is the main problem with the Novell/SuSE edition, they install
 OOo under /usr, whereas the official edition is installed under /opt.
 With the exception of your home OOo directory, the original directories
 will no longer exist, or at least not contain anything useful.
 
  What else am I, as an untrained user, in need of knowing?
 
 Nothing really. It may seem like a potential horror story, but in
 reality it's fairly easy to get OOo set up and working the way you want
 it.

[OT] I suppose the problems I've been having with Wine also result from SuSE 
doing something non-standard. Around the start of the year there was a security 
flap regarding WMF. SuSE fixed it for Wine by supplying a year old version 
which they still insist on pushing down my throat even though I downloaded the 
official fix for the problem from Winehq.org some six months ago. [/OT]

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[users] Re: Install ooo 2.0.3 under Suse Linux 10.1

2006-07-19 Thread Victor Chapman
Victor Chapman wrote:
 What is the correct process to upgrade from ver. 2.0.2 to 2.0.3. I have
 tried this a couple of times and end up with a hybrid the old and the new.

Note, I am trying to install 2.0.3

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