[Users] ovzkernel-xen for rhel5?
Hi, Whats the status of ovzkernel-xen for rhel5? I see in the repo that it was last built for 028stab053.10 which was in April. Are there any issues with it or is it just that noone is recompiling regularly? ___ Users mailing list Users@openvz.org https://openvz.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] ovzkernel-xen for rhel5?
Aleksandar Ivanisevic wrote: Hi, Whats the status of ovzkernel-xen for rhel5? I see in the repo that it was last built for 028stab053.10 which was in April. Are there any issues with it or is it just that noone is recompiling regularly? Xen compilation was broken in the last kernel, so it went out without -xen-. It is now fixed and xen kernels will be available with the next kernel release. If you want it earlier (for whatever reason), we can provide an unofficial build. ___ Users mailing list Users@openvz.org https://openvz.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] Re: ovzkernel-xen for rhel5?
Aleksandar Ivanisevic wrote: Kir Kolyshkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Xen compilation was broken in the last kernel, so it went out without -xen-. It is now fixed and xen kernels will be available with the next kernel release. If you want it earlier (for whatever reason), we can provide an unofficial build. No worries, I can build it myself if I decide I want it, just wanted to know if this is a SNAFU or not ;) We will be maintaining it for a while, it's just we didn't want to delay a kernel release only because of Xen. ___ Users mailing list Users@openvz.org https://openvz.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] ovzkernel-xen ?
Having not used Xen but being very interested in all forms of virtualization and how folks are using it, I'm curious. What does one do with a kernel that does both OpenVZ and Xen? Do you run multiple Doms and a few of them use OpenVZ? Is there a reason that neither OpenVZ nor Xen do exactly what you want by themselves? -- Gregor Mosheh / Greg Allensworth, BS, A+ System Administrator HostGIS cartographic development hosting services http://www.HostGIS.com/ Remember that no one cares if you can back up, only if you can restore. - AMANDA ___ Users mailing list Users@openvz.org https://openvz.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] ovzkernel-xen for rhel5?
Kir Kolyshkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Xen compilation was broken in the last kernel, so it went out without -xen-. It is now fixed and xen kernels will be available with the next kernel release. If you want it earlier (for whatever reason), we can provide an unofficial build. Maybe I understand you wrong, but if the problem is fixed (with specifically 2.6.18-92.1.1.EL5 + OpenVZ) then couldn't this be made an offical build? I was just about to install a Xen enabled kernel on a recently installed machine and it would be nice to have the most kernel based on the most recent RHEL kernel. Otherwise, for me it would mean installing an old one or waiting for the next one. Compiling my own is not an option for now. Thanks for your time! Henrik -- Henrik Holmboe, Stockholm, Sweden http://henrik.holmboe.se/contact/ ___ Users mailing list Users@openvz.org https://openvz.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] ovzkernel-xen for rhel5?
Henrik Holmboe wrote: Kir Kolyshkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Xen compilation was broken in the last kernel, so it went out without -xen-. It is now fixed and xen kernels will be available with the next kernel release. If you want it earlier (for whatever reason), we can provide an unofficial build. Maybe I understand you wrong, but if the problem is fixed (with specifically 2.6.18-92.1.1.EL5 + OpenVZ) The kernel which is shipped as 028stab057.2 can not be compiled with Xen. There is a patch fixing the issue, but adding the patch would mean yet another different kernel (say 028stab057.3) which should go through full release cycle (see below). Neither we can release a just xen kernel, because our releasing machinery and infrastructure is just not suitable for that sort of things. then couldn't this be made an offical build? We are already working on releasing a newer version, with lots of updates from RHEL plus some from us. Please understand that a new kernel release is much more than just compile/upload/announce. Our kernels are going through an extensive internal QA before the release, and as always QA resources are limited so we can not afford two kernels in a queue. I was just about to install a Xen enabled kernel on a recently installed machine and it would be nice to have the most kernel based on the most recent RHEL kernel. Otherwise, for me it would mean installing an old one or waiting for the next one. I am really sorry, but it looks like this is what you have to do for a moment. Our new kernel is in QA and hopefully will be released next week. As I said before, we could provide an unofficial build for those users suffering from the old kernel bugs. Having said that, it's still some work to do so requests for such a kernel needs to be justified. I mean, saying my kernel is old and I want a new shiny one doesn't count. Compiling my own is not an option for now. Thanks for your time! Henrik ___ Users mailing list Users@openvz.org https://openvz.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] ovzkernel-xen ?
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 08:47:56AM -0600, Gregor Mosheh wrote: Having not used Xen but being very interested in all forms of virtualization and how folks are using it, I'm curious. What does one do with a kernel that does both OpenVZ and Xen? Do you run multiple Doms and a few of them use OpenVZ? Is there a reason that neither OpenVZ nor Xen do exactly what you want by themselves? Yes, there is a fundamental difference in how the two systems work, RTFM :) For example with Xen each child gets a whole new kernel instance with everything that that entails, most obvious example being separate memory. -- 2. That which causes joy or happiness. ___ Users mailing list Users@openvz.org https://openvz.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] ovzkernel-xen ?
Josip Rodin wrote: Yes, there is a fundamental difference in how the two systems work, RTFM :) Why, thank you. And here I thought they were the same thing. :P My question is why you'd want to use both. What particular need or deployment scenario would require Xen and OpenVZ together? -- Gregor Mosheh / Greg Allensworth, BS, A+ System Administrator HostGIS cartographic development hosting services http://www.HostGIS.com/ Remember that no one cares if you can back up, only if you can restore. - AMANDA ___ Users mailing list Users@openvz.org https://openvz.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] ovzkernel-xen ?
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 04:22:01PM -0600, Gregor Mosheh wrote: My question is why you'd want to use both. What particular need or deployment scenario would require Xen and OpenVZ together? Well, that's... a bit unimaginative :| Here's a quick example: you have one big machine but more than one group of users. You really want to keep the users separate, yet don't really care what they do once they're on their own. So you give each group a Xen child, under which they run as many OpenVZ children as they like. -- 2. That which causes joy or happiness. ___ Users mailing list Users@openvz.org https://openvz.org/mailman/listinfo/users
