Please test sc2.surbl.org (and xs.surbl.org)

2005-07-24 Thread Jeff Chan
sc2.surbl.org, the improved version of the SpamCop SURBL list, is
ready for testing.  So is the new version of xs.surbl.org, which
is now more accurate, has far fewer FPs, etc.

sc2 adds resolved IP checks, meaning sites hosted on the same
networks are detected immediately upon the first report.  It also
means that folks should continue to use SpamCop reporting if they
want to contribute to a very powerful SURBL list.  Your SpamCop
reports now have even more power in sc2.  In cases of the worst
spammers, SpamCop reporting leads to essentially immediate
listing in sc2.

sc2 is on about 15 public nameservers and xs is on 22.  That's
probably not enough for running large production servers on, but
it should be plenty for corpus checks and mail servers with small
to medium message volumes.

If you have rsync access to the SURBL zone files you can also
mirror the files locally for testing of course.  The sc2 and xs
zones are currently available via rsync. (If you have a large
volume mail server, please apply for rsync access so that you can
mirror the zone files locally: http://www3.surbl.org/rsync-signup.html
and offload the public nameservers.)

After sc2 is tested for a while we will turn it into the
production sc.surbl.org list, assuming it has better performance
than the current list, which seems quite likely.  At that point
sc2 will go away, since it will have become sc.

xs may go into the 128th bit of multi.surbl.org if it tests well.

Please test sc2 and the revised xs and let us know how they
perform for you.  Those with large spam and ham corpora (such as
the SpamAssassin developers) are encouraged to test and please
let us know.


Here are SpamAssassin 3.0.1 and later configs for using these two lists:

urirhsbl  URIBL_SC2_SURBL  sc2.surbl.org.
body  URIBL_SC2_SURBL  eval:check_uridnsbl('URIBL_SC2_SURBL')
describe  URIBL_SC2_SURBL  Has URI in SC2 at http://www.surbl.org/lists.html
tflagsURIBL_SC2_SURBL  net

score URIBL_SC2_SURBL  3.0

urirhsbl  URIBL_XS_SURBL   xs.surbl.org.
body  URIBL_XS_SURBL   eval:check_uridnsbl('URIBL_XS_SURBL')
describe  URIBL_XS_SURBL   Has URI in XS - Testing
tflagsURIBL_XS_SURBL   net

score URIBL_XS_SURBL   2.0


SpamAssassin 2.64 rules and scores using SpamCopURI 0.22 or later look like 
this:

uri   SC2_URI_RBL  eval:check_spamcop_uri_rbl('sc2.surbl.org','127.0.0.2')
describe  SC2_URI_RBL  Has URI in SC2 at http://www.surbl.org/lists.html
tflagsSC2_URI_RBL  net

score SC2_URI_RBL  3.0

uri   XS_URI_RBL   eval:check_spamcop_uri_rbl('xs.surbl.org','127.0.0.2')
describe  XS_URI_RBL   Has URI in XS - Testing
tflagsXS_URI_RBL   net

score XS_URI_RBL   2.0


Jeff C.
--
Don't harm innocent bystanders.



Re: DNS failing... why? (works fine on cmd line)

2005-07-24 Thread email builder
All,
 
  Thank you to everyone who replied on this thread.  FWIW, the issue was in fact with Net::DNS.  I actually had previously had contact with him regarding other problems, but 0.51 was working for me on another system, so I was a little surprised that this was the fix.  I upgraded to the newest (0.53) and the problem has gone away.
 
Thanks everyone!
email builder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I have a new spamd instance I am trying to start up on a server that sitsbehind another firewall (linux) machine (which I *think* is irrelevant, butthat's the only different thing from our other setups that work fine) that issomehow missing DNS connections:'''debug: is Net::DNS::Resolver available? yesdebug: Net::DNS version: 0.51debug: trying (3) motorola.com...debug: looking up NS for 'motorola.com'debug: NS lookup of motorola.com failed horribly => Perhaps your resolv.confisn't pointing at a valid server?debug: All NS queries failed => DNS unavailable (set dns_available tooverride)debug: is DNS available? 0'''However, when I telnet to port 53 of one of the IP addresses given
 in/etc/resolv.conf, it works just fine:'''[EMAIL PROTECTED] cat /etc/resolv.conf nameserver 123.456.7.8nameserver 987.654.1.1[EMAIL PROTECTED] telnet 123.456.7.8 53Trying 123.456.7.8...Connected to 123.456.7.8.xxx.yyy.net (123.456.7.8).Escape character is '^]'.quitConnection closed by foreign host.'''So, is spamd trying to dig the NS of motorola.com? That works on the commandline too:'''[EMAIL PROTECTED] dig ns motorola.com; <<>> DiG 9.2.5 <<>> ns motorola.com;; global options: printcmd;; Got answer:;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 24784;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 5, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0;; QUESTION SECTION:;motorola.com. IN NS;;
 ANSWER SECTION:motorola.com. 3594 IN NS motgate.mot.com.motorola.com. 3594 IN NS ftpbox.mot.com.motorola.com. 3594 IN NS dns31.mot.com.motorola.com. 3594 IN NS dns11.mot.com.motorola.com. 3594 IN NS motgate.motorola.de.;; Query time: 3 msec;; SERVER: 123.456.7.8#53(123.456.7.8);; WHEN: Tue Jul 19 13:14:17 2005;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 150'''So does this mean that it's actually an issue with Net::DNS orNet::DNS::Resolver? They are about as up to date as they get I think(Net::DNS .52 is out now, but I don't really think that's going to fixit...?).What should I look at next? What is spamd doing that I am not doing on thecommand line???TIA!Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs 
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RE: Postfix problem

2005-07-24 Thread Robert Swan








Fixed my own problem with

 

 

postsuper –r ALL

 

 

 

thanks for listening





Robert

 

 

 

 

 

 

Peace he would say instead of
goodbyepeace my brother.













From: Robert Swan 
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 6:10
PM
To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: Postfix problem



 

Hello All,

 

I had a DNS issue and postfix placed all my mail in a
“deferred” folder in the “/var/spool/postfix”
directory, and after fixing the DNS issue the old mail is still there, anyone
know how to flush it out?

 

I am running Spamassassin 3.04 and postfix, spamd spamc on
redhat 9

 

Thanks in advance

 



Robert

 

 

 

 

 

 

Peace he would say instead of goodbyepeace my brother.



 








Postfix problem

2005-07-24 Thread Robert Swan








Hello All,

 

I had a DNS issue and postfix placed all my mail in a “deferred”
folder in the “/var/spool/postfix” directory, and after fixing the
DNS issue the old mail is still there, anyone know how to flush it out?

 

I am running Spamassassin 3.04 and postfix, spamd spamc on
redhat 9

 

Thanks in advance

 



Robert

 

 

 

 

 

 

Peace he would say instead of goodbyepeace my brother.



 








Re: URIDNSBL and subdomains

2005-07-24 Thread Jeff Chan
On Thursday, July 21, 2005, 7:28:53 PM, Charles Sprickman wrote:
> Hello,

> I've been watching some of the misses that have passed through 
> spamassassin (3.0.4) lately and they are pretty clean; no DNS BL hits, 
> etc.

> One thing I did notice is that many of them have a fairly contorted URL 
> for the spamvertized products, ie:

> kjekliennxi&ffiennnkenc.spamsite.com

> This doesn't trigger any URIDNSBL hits, but if I punch the entire URI into 
> the surbl.org checker it does hit.  It seems as if the SA check is looking 
> only at the domain part and not the subdomain.

> Is this expected?  Is there a switch to flip to get the whole hostname 
> checked?

As Loren correctly mentions, SURBLs and the applications that use
them usually try to check the registered domain, not the full
host name.  Some exceptions include phishing hosts that might be
hosted on a legitimate ISP under their domain name, like
phisher.geocities.com or whatever.

So there is no switch to check the whole hostname and most of the
time the full hostnames would not match the SURBL data.  There
are a number of reasons for this design decision, some of which
can be seen at:

  http://www.surbl.org/faq.html#random
  http://www.surbl.org/faq.html#cctlds

Most of the major spammers register dozens or hundreds of new
domains at a time, use some for a few days or weeks then abandon
them and start using others.  We're a lot more interested in
catching those than some minor abuse at a free host, since the
ones using throwaway domains are probably the same ones sending
billions of spams per day using botnets, etc.

Jeff C.
-- 
Jeff Chan
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.surbl.org/



Re: ALL_TRUSTED appearing on spam

2005-07-24 Thread John T. Yocum
OK. I added the internal_networks setting listing my only MX (It's not
trusted, as it's used by many other users, and isn't under my control.)


# Trusted Networks
trusted_networks69.25.118.171

# Internal Networks
internal_networks   207.234.226.49


OK. So the trusted_networks line, specifies my mail server IP.(Machine
running SA.) And, internal_networks has my third-party operated MX.

Now, regardless of what I set trusted_networks to, SA sets ALL_TRUSTED to
direct delivered spam, or mail.

I think this is part of it's design though. My mail host is a webmail box,
thus nobody relays through it, except itself. Thus, it shouldn't trust any
hosts other than itself.

Now, it doesn't set ALL_TRUSTED from spam, or any e-mail which is relayed
via another host. It's only for direct delivered mail.

Thanks,
John

> On 7/24/05, John T. Yocum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I've recently noticed that a lot of spam is getting through
>> SpamAssassin,
>> and it's getting the ALL_TRUSTED test listed on it. The issue with that
>> is, I only have one IP trusted, and that's my own mail server.
>>
>> 
>> # Trusted Networks
>> trusted_networks 69.25.118.171
>> 
>>
>> As you can see in the below set of headers the message came from
>> 218.222.75.209. Yet, it's trusted.
>>
>> Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Received: from U075209.ppp.dion.ne.jp (U075209.ppp.dion.ne.jp
>> [218.222.75.209])
>> by kangaroo.publicmx.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id
>> j6OKabJS014331
>> for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sun, 24 Jul 2005 13:36:40 -0700
>> From: "Fortifies T. Noon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: Fawyland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: Petite 18yo Teen Stripping
>> Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 11:38:57 -0700
>> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> MIME-Version: 1.0
>> Content-Type: text/plain
>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>> X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
>> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
>> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4024
>> Importance: Normal
>> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.
>> X-AntiVirus: checked by AntiVir MailGate (version: 2.0.1.10; AVE:
>> 6.20.0.1; VDF: 6.20.0.46; host: U075209.ppp.dion.ne.jp)
>> X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=3.0
>> tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BIZ_TLD,CUM_SHOT,
>> HOT_NASTY autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4
>> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on
>> kangaroo.publicmx.com
>>
>>
>> I have tried sending a test message from another host to the mail
>> server,
>> and everything seems fine. As headers show below.
>>
>>
>> Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Received: from mail1.fluidhosting.com (mail1.fluidhosting.com
>> [204.14.90.61])
>> by kangaroo.publicmx.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with SMTP id j6OLZSOU019710
>> for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sun, 24 Jul 2005 14:35:28 -0700
>> Received: (qmail 43718 invoked by uid 399); 24 Jul 2005 21:35:24 -
>> Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.102.220?)
>> ([EMAIL PROTECTED]@127.0.0.1)
>> by localhost with SMTP; 24 Jul 2005 21:35:24 -
>> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 14:35:21 -0700
>> From: "John T. Yocum" 
>> User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6-1.4.1.centos4 (X11/20050721)
>> X-Accept-Language: en-us, en
>> MIME-Version: 1.0
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: test
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=4.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS
>> autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4
>> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on
>> kangaroo.publicmx.com
>>
>>
>> My current setup is, SpamAssassin 3.0.4 integrated with Sendmail using
>> SpamAssasin-Milter 0.3.
>>
>> Any ideas why other hosts getting trusted, would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> John
>>
>
> John, there's another setting, called "internal networks", that you're
> suppose to put in the local.cf file as well.
>
> See this:
> http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/TrustPath?highlight=%28all_trusted%29
>
> -RoNNY
>
>



Re: (OT) SURBL local-DNS sample file?

2005-07-24 Thread Jeff Chan
On Tuesday, July 19, 2005, 5:24:21 AM, Paolo as2594 wrote:
> Hi, what follows is certainly OT for SpamAssassin.

> I am setting up SA3 with SURBL support, and I am configuring RBLDNSD in 
> order to run a local SURBL copy.

> Before asking for rsync permission, I'd like to test the configuration 
> on a non-production system (with a non-production IP address).

There are some RBLs that have open rsync access, such as dsbl, as
described at:

  http://dsbl.org/usage

I use their list rbldns-list.dsbl.org, as shown in our one of our
rsync/rbldnsd faq documents:

  http://www.surbl.org/rbldnsd-bind-freebsd.html

Links to more rbldnsd howtos, faqs, etc. can be found at:

  http://www3.surbl.org/rsync-signup.html
  http://www.surbl.org/links.html

Cheers,

Jeff C.
-- 
Jeff Chan
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.surbl.org/



Re: ALL_TRUSTED appearing on spam

2005-07-24 Thread mouss

John T. Yocum wrote:

Hello,

I've recently noticed that a lot of spam is getting through SpamAssassin,
and it's getting the ALL_TRUSTED test listed on it. The issue with that
is, I only have one IP trusted, and that's my own mail server.


# Trusted Networks
trusted_networks 69.25.118.171


As you can see in the below set of headers the message came from
218.222.75.209. Yet, it's trusted.

Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Received: from U075209.ppp.dion.ne.jp (U075209.ppp.dion.ne.jp
[218.222.75.209])
 by kangaroo.publicmx.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j6OKabJS014331
 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sun, 24 Jul 2005 13:36:40 -0700


My understanding (but I may be wrong) is that ALL_TRUSTED means all 
received headers are trusted, which seems the case. It doesn't mean the 
origin client is trusted.


Re: ALL_TRUSTED appearing on spam

2005-07-24 Thread Ronny Nussbaum
On 7/24/05, John T. Yocum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I've recently noticed that a lot of spam is getting through SpamAssassin,
> and it's getting the ALL_TRUSTED test listed on it. The issue with that
> is, I only have one IP trusted, and that's my own mail server.
> 
> 
> # Trusted Networks
> trusted_networks 69.25.118.171
> 
> 
> As you can see in the below set of headers the message came from
> 218.222.75.209. Yet, it's trusted.
> 
> Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Received: from U075209.ppp.dion.ne.jp (U075209.ppp.dion.ne.jp
> [218.222.75.209])
> by kangaroo.publicmx.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j6OKabJS014331
> for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sun, 24 Jul 2005 13:36:40 -0700
> From: "Fortifies T. Noon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Fawyland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Petite 18yo Teen Stripping
> Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 11:38:57 -0700
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: text/plain
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4024
> Importance: Normal
> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.
> X-AntiVirus: checked by AntiVir MailGate (version: 2.0.1.10; AVE:
> 6.20.0.1; VDF: 6.20.0.46; host: U075209.ppp.dion.ne.jp)
> X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=3.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BIZ_TLD,CUM_SHOT,
> HOT_NASTY autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4
> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on
> kangaroo.publicmx.com
> 
> 
> I have tried sending a test message from another host to the mail server,
> and everything seems fine. As headers show below.
> 
> 
> Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Received: from mail1.fluidhosting.com (mail1.fluidhosting.com [204.14.90.61])
> by kangaroo.publicmx.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with SMTP id j6OLZSOU019710
> for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sun, 24 Jul 2005 14:35:28 -0700
> Received: (qmail 43718 invoked by uid 399); 24 Jul 2005 21:35:24 -
> Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.102.220?)
> ([EMAIL PROTECTED]@127.0.0.1)
> by localhost with SMTP; 24 Jul 2005 21:35:24 -
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 14:35:21 -0700
> From: "John T. Yocum" 
> User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6-1.4.1.centos4 (X11/20050721)
> X-Accept-Language: en-us, en
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: test
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=4.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS
> autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4
> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on
> kangaroo.publicmx.com
> 
> 
> My current setup is, SpamAssassin 3.0.4 integrated with Sendmail using
> SpamAssasin-Milter 0.3.
> 
> Any ideas why other hosts getting trusted, would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Thanks,
> John
> 

John, there's another setting, called "internal networks", that you're
suppose to put in the local.cf file as well.

See this:
http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/TrustPath?highlight=%28all_trusted%29

-RoNNY


Re: spamc doesn't add headers

2005-07-24 Thread jdow
christophe, you DO know that "cat spam" merely prints out your raw
spam file so it should not have any markup in it.

If you want to view a permanent marked up file you need to run:
spamc < spam >spam_marked_up

Or something like that. Remember that spamc takes stdin, filters, and
feeds back out stdout. So "spamc 

I spent my last days googling, reading tutorials, man pages and spamassassin
web sites and tried many differents settings for spamassassin (version
3.0.4)
but without success. So i have no other solutions than asking you.

Here is the content of my /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf file :
--
required_hits 5
report_safe 0
add_header spam Flag _YESNOCAPS_
add_header all Status _YESNO_, score=_SCORE_ required=_REQD_ tests=_TESTS_
autolearn=_AUTOLEARN_ version=_VERSION_
add_header all Level _STARS(*)_
add_header all Checker-Version SpamAssassin _VERSION_ (_SUBVERSION_) on
_HOSTNAME_
auto_whitelist_path/var/spool/spamassassin/auto-whitelist
auto_whitelist_file_mode   0666
dcc_home   /var/lib/dcc
--

spamd is running perfectly as a daemon.
I copied a spam mail in the file 'spam'.
And there i meet a _very_ weird paradox.
If i run one of these 2 commands :

$spamassassin < spam
$spamc -E < spam

i get an output with 'X-Spam-Flag: YES', which is what i want to treat the
email with my maler.
But when i run :

$cat spam

No line with 'X-Spam-Flag: YES' appears. Yet, i thought my config file was
well written. because i put this line :

add_header spam Flag _YESNOCAPS_

I don't understand why no header is added in the 'spam' file
There must something i forgot.
Could anyone help me, please ?


--
Christophe





Re: spamc doesn't add headers

2005-07-24 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Mon, Jul 25, 2005 at 12:31:46AM +0200, christophe wrote:
> spamd is running perfectly as a daemon.
> I copied a spam mail in the file 'spam'.

Ok.

> If i run one of these 2 commands :
> $spamassassin < spam
> $spamc -E < spam
> i get an output with 'X-Spam-Flag: YES', which is what i want to treat the
> email with my maler.

Right, the message is displayed on STDOUT w/ markup and everything.

> But when i run :
> $cat spam
> No line with 'X-Spam-Flag: YES' appears.

Of course not.  "spam" is the original file without markup.

> I don't understand why no header is added in the 'spam' file
> There must something i forgot.
> Could anyone help me, please ?

Are you expecting SpamAssassin to read in the file "spam", then write the
output back to the same file?  If so, that's not how SpamAssassin works.
Basically you'd want to do something like:

$spamc < spam > spam.out

That will filter the message in the file 'spam' through spamc<->spamd, and the
resulting output will go into the file called spam.out.

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spamc doesn't add headers

2005-07-24 Thread christophe
I spent my last days googling, reading tutorials, man pages and spamassassin
web sites and tried many differents settings for spamassassin (version 3.0.4)
but without success. So i have no other solutions than asking you.

Here is the content of my /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf file :
--
required_hits 5
report_safe 0
add_header spam Flag _YESNOCAPS_
add_header all Status _YESNO_, score=_SCORE_ required=_REQD_ tests=_TESTS_
autolearn=_AUTOLEARN_ version=_VERSION_
add_header all Level _STARS(*)_
add_header all Checker-Version SpamAssassin _VERSION_ (_SUBVERSION_) on
_HOSTNAME_
auto_whitelist_path/var/spool/spamassassin/auto-whitelist
auto_whitelist_file_mode   0666
dcc_home   /var/lib/dcc
--

spamd is running perfectly as a daemon.
I copied a spam mail in the file 'spam'.
And there i meet a _very_ weird paradox.
If i run one of these 2 commands :

$spamassassin < spam
$spamc -E < spam

i get an output with 'X-Spam-Flag: YES', which is what i want to treat the
email with my maler.
But when i run :

$cat spam

No line with 'X-Spam-Flag: YES' appears. Yet, i thought my config file was
well written. because i put this line :

add_header spam Flag _YESNOCAPS_

I don't understand why no header is added in the 'spam' file
There must something i forgot.
Could anyone help me, please ?


--
Christophe


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Re: Account # 555711L Spam

2005-07-24 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 24 July 2005 13:39, jdow wrote:
>From: "Gene Heskett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>> I wonder if perhaps earthlink is not the only ISP with that
>> problem. I have my vz prefs set to delete any detected spam as I
>> have now switched to a fetchmail based mail suck.
>>
>> Haveing a kmail problem the other day, I logged in via the webmail
>> at vz, and found 9 messages, all spam, sitting in the spam folder
>> there.
>>
>> So I checkmarked them to be deleted, and as I had the tech support
>> guy on my ear at the time, I noted that delete didn't, it just
>> moved the stuff to the trash folder.  That pulled my trigger and I
>> made it clear to the support drone that when I clicked on delete,
>> thats exactly what I intended to happen.  As vz is currently
>> setup, you then have to move to the trash folder, select them all
>> again, and click delete to be able to be truely rid of the wasted
>> space.
>
>That's web mail. I'm highly allergic to that "abortion". So I never
>use it. At one point, though, I had something even web mail could
>not repair. So the whole mail file at Earthlink had to be deleted.
>{^_^}

Chuckle, that makes 2 of us, Joanne.  Webmail, IMNSHO, is an invention 
by the marketing drones so they can feed you a bunch of commercials 
that apparently come with your mail & which OE will no doubt try to 
decode, thereby loading up your machine with yet another winderz 
viri.  I've opted out of that scene to the maximum available.

-- 
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
99.35% setiathome rank, not too shabby for a WV hillbilly
Yahoo.com and AOL/TW attorneys please note, additions to the above
message by Gene Heskett are:
Copyright 2005 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved.


ALL_TRUSTED appearing on spam

2005-07-24 Thread John T. Yocum
Hello,

I've recently noticed that a lot of spam is getting through SpamAssassin,
and it's getting the ALL_TRUSTED test listed on it. The issue with that
is, I only have one IP trusted, and that's my own mail server.


# Trusted Networks
trusted_networks 69.25.118.171


As you can see in the below set of headers the message came from
218.222.75.209. Yet, it's trusted.

Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Received: from U075209.ppp.dion.ne.jp (U075209.ppp.dion.ne.jp
[218.222.75.209])
 by kangaroo.publicmx.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j6OKabJS014331
 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sun, 24 Jul 2005 13:36:40 -0700
From: "Fortifies T. Noon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Fawyland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Petite 18yo Teen Stripping
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 11:38:57 -0700
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4024
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.
X-AntiVirus: checked by AntiVir MailGate (version: 2.0.1.10; AVE:
6.20.0.1; VDF: 6.20.0.46; host: U075209.ppp.dion.ne.jp)
X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=3.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BIZ_TLD,CUM_SHOT,
 HOT_NASTY autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on
 kangaroo.publicmx.com


I have tried sending a test message from another host to the mail server,
and everything seems fine. As headers show below.


Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Received: from mail1.fluidhosting.com (mail1.fluidhosting.com [204.14.90.61])
 by kangaroo.publicmx.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with SMTP id j6OLZSOU019710
 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sun, 24 Jul 2005 14:35:28 -0700
Received: (qmail 43718 invoked by uid 399); 24 Jul 2005 21:35:24 -
Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.102.220?)
([EMAIL PROTECTED]@127.0.0.1)
 by localhost with SMTP; 24 Jul 2005 21:35:24 -
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 14:35:21 -0700
From: "John T. Yocum" 
User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6-1.4.1.centos4 (X11/20050721)
X-Accept-Language: en-us, en
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: test
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=4.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS
 autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on
 kangaroo.publicmx.com


My current setup is, SpamAssassin 3.0.4 integrated with Sendmail using
SpamAssasin-Milter 0.3.

Any ideas why other hosts getting trusted, would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
John


Re: Account # 555711L Spam

2005-07-24 Thread jdow
From: "Gene Heskett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> I wonder if perhaps earthlink is not the only ISP with that problem.  
> I have my vz prefs set to delete any detected spam as I have now 
> switched to a fetchmail based mail suck.
> 
> Haveing a kmail problem the other day, I logged in via the webmail at 
> vz, and found 9 messages, all spam, sitting in the spam folder there.
> 
> So I checkmarked them to be deleted, and as I had the tech support guy 
> on my ear at the time, I noted that delete didn't, it just moved the 
> stuff to the trash folder.  That pulled my trigger and I made it 
> clear to the support drone that when I clicked on delete, thats 
> exactly what I intended to happen.  As vz is currently setup, you 
> then have to move to the trash folder, select them all again, and 
> click delete to be able to be truely rid of the wasted space.

That's web mail. I'm highly allergic to that "abortion". So I never
use it. At one point, though, I had something even web mail could
not repair. So the whole mail file at Earthlink had to be deleted.
{^_^}



Re: Account # 555711L Spam

2005-07-24 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 24 July 2005 11:19, Loren Wilton wrote:
>> Haveing a kmail problem the other day, I logged in via the webmail
>> at vz, and found 9 messages, all spam, sitting in the spam folder
>> there.
>
>On Dirtlink (which seems from your description to be using the same
>near-useless webmail as vz) you have a few choices and a very few
> things that happen automatically:
>
>1If you take the current default configuration, they will do a
> decent but not wonderful virus scan first.  They will automatically
> dump all pure virus messages with no sign that they did so.  If you
> want to know about these, you can turn on an incredibly innane
> option that will send you an email for each deleted virus email.

I haven't see such an option on vz's webmail screens.

>Any virus email that they can "partially clean" they dump into a
> holding tank and then send you an email per virus that they have
> "cleaned" this thing.  You CAN NOT turn off these stupid annoyance
> emails.  Fortunately these prnding virus bits are small and will be
> deleted in something like 7 days.

I've never to my knowledge received one of those.

>2By default then then scan for spam.  I haven't had this turned
> on in a few months, but the last time I did it was really quite
> effective; and has been for about a year now.  Before that it was
> essentially useless, catching maybe 10% of the spam.
>
:)

>These spam mails go into the 'caught spam' folder, and DO NOT count
> against your mail quota.  They will be deleted after some not large
> number of days, 3-5 as I recall.

At vz, they do count against your total drive space used.  When I 
first signed up for DSL in april 2 years ago, I never looked at the 
webmail screens as I was fetching mail directly with kmail.  A month 
later the mail slowed to a trickle and then stopped.  This was back 
when you mailbox was a measly 10 megs, now its 30.  On calling tech 
support to see what the deal was, he had me log into the webmail and 
I had 10 megs worth of stuff sitting in the spam folder.

>3You can move the spam into your real mail folder.  This
> re-mails it to you, but bypasses scanning.  The headers will be
> rather strange as a result of this forwarding.  Obviously this now
> counts against mail quota.
>
>4You can delete the spam.  This doesn't 'delete', it works like
> a windows/mac machine and moves it to the 'deleted items' folder. 
> Now this deleted spam DOES count against your mail quota! 
> Fortunately the deleted items folder is really deleted after 7
> days, I think.  However, it is smart to click the 'empty trash'
> button that shows up here and there and jump through the assorted
> hoops necessary to get this crud really deleted.

It may be that they have a kill after "x" time setup, but its not 
mentioned.

>BTW, if you move something from deleted items back to inbox, it
> doesn't move it, it RE-SENDS it to you!  It will show up with new
> message numbers and get downloaded a second time by pop.
>
Oh cool, NOT!
>
>If you just accept the default configuration of virus and spam
> scanning and don't muck with the stuff, it is all reasonably
> transparent.  If you do like I do and disable one or both of these
> scans it is also reasonably transparent, but you get all the spams
> or virui, depending on your settings. (I leave the virus scan on
> and spam scan off.)

I have then both turned on, and set to delete.  But a lot of stuff 
gets thru anyway.  I haven't looked in the JunqueMail folder since 
about 5:30 this morning, 42 new messages, with about 38 labeled as 
spam by spamassassins spamd.  The other 4 fell thru my local sort 
filters and wind up being sorted to the JunqueMail folder too.  Once 
or twice a day I delete the ones labeled as spam, and feed the rest 
to the learn-spam tool.

>Normally your pop3 client will be set to delete the mail as soon as
> it is downloaded.  I tend to leave it there for about 5 days before
> deleting it with a handy little program I cobbled to do that, so I
> can get to webmail if I'm not at home, without having to turn off
> the home feed.
>
>OE will delete the mail from the feed for you, either immediately or
> after a period of time.  However, I have a double-level pop3 feed
> because SA sits in the middle on a linux box, so need to reach
> around this to delete the stuff from the main folder.  I have
> fetchmail set to not delete.  (I wish it had an option to delete
> after N days/hours, but it doesn't seem to.)
>
>Loren

SA's not exactly in the middle here, its a slave to kmail's fetching 
by pipeing everything thru SA for suitable labelling before it hits 
my sort rules.  My firewall in only firewall, no mail proxies setup.

-- 
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
99.35% setiathome rank, not too shabby for a WV hillbilly
Yahoo.com and AOL/TW attorneys please note, additions to the above
message by Gene 

Re: Account # 555711L Spam

2005-07-24 Thread Loren Wilton
> Haveing a kmail problem the other day, I logged in via the webmail at
> vz, and found 9 messages, all spam, sitting in the spam folder there.

On Dirtlink (which seems from your description to be using the same
near-useless webmail as vz) you have a few choices and a very few things
that happen automatically:

1If you take the current default configuration, they will do a decent
but not wonderful virus scan first.  They will automatically dump all pure
virus messages with no sign that they did so.  If you want to know about
these, you can turn on an incredibly innane option that will send you an
email for each deleted virus email.

Any virus email that they can "partially clean" they dump into a holding
tank and then send you an email per virus that they have "cleaned" this
thing.  You CAN NOT turn off these stupid annoyance emails.  Fortunately
these prnding virus bits are small and will be deleted in something like 7
days.

2By default then then scan for spam.  I haven't had this turned on in a
few months, but the last time I did it was really quite effective; and has
been for about a year now.  Before that it was essentially useless, catching
maybe 10% of the spam.

These spam mails go into the 'caught spam' folder, and DO NOT count against
your mail quota.  They will be deleted after some not large number of days,
3-5 as I recall.

3You can move the spam into your real mail folder.  This re-mails it to
you, but bypasses scanning.  The headers will be rather strange as a result
of this forwarding.  Obviously this now counts against mail quota.

4You can delete the spam.  This doesn't 'delete', it works like a
windows/mac machine and moves it to the 'deleted items' folder.  Now this
deleted spam DOES count against your mail quota!  Fortunately the deleted
items folder is really deleted after 7 days, I think.  However, it is smart
to click the 'empty trash' button that shows up here and there and jump
through the assorted hoops necessary to get this crud really deleted.

BTW, if you move something from deleted items back to inbox, it doesn't move
it, it RE-SENDS it to you!  It will show up with new message numbers and get
downloaded a second time by pop.


If you just accept the default configuration of virus and spam scanning and
don't muck with the stuff, it is all reasonably transparent.  If you do like
I do and disable one or both of these scans it is also reasonably
transparent, but you get all the spams or virui, depending on your settings.
(I leave the virus scan on and spam scan off.)

Normally your pop3 client will be set to delete the mail as soon as it is
downloaded.  I tend to leave it there for about 5 days before deleting it
with a handy little program I cobbled to do that, so I can get to webmail if
I'm not at home, without having to turn off the home feed.

OE will delete the mail from the feed for you, either immediately or after a
period of time.  However, I have a double-level pop3 feed because SA sits in
the middle on a linux box, so need to reach around this to delete the stuff
from the main folder.  I have fetchmail set to not delete.  (I wish it had
an option to delete after N days/hours, but it doesn't seem to.)

Loren



Re: ampersand in URLs

2005-07-24 Thread mouss

John Rudd wrote:
The only problem I can think of is than an ampersand in a _URL_ is legal 
(IIRC, in CGI form urls, ampersand is used to delimit different 
variables, so if the URL question contains some form of context, like 
ack'ing a sign-up, it might legitimately contain an &).  So, you need to 
distinguish between "& before the third /" and "& after the third / and 
probably after a ?".  The former is bad.  The latter should be ok.


I find it simpler to just remove the '%' ane '#' from the expression and use
http://[\w\d\.]*\&;
so that '&' is not matched in the path part even if the slash is 
encoded. while this doesn't catch all descrepancies, it catches the 
example spams.







Re: Account # 555711L Spam

2005-07-24 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 23 July 2005 13:13, jdow wrote:
>From: "Jeffrey Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>> Are they any rules to stop this type of spam? It is continually
>> growing and doesnt ever let up.
>
>One thing I discovered is that these spams CAN upset the combination
>of fetchmail and the Earthlink pop3 server, NGPOPPER. (No Good
> POPper?)
>
>Until you manually telnet to the Earthlink server and delete the
> offending email you get mailboxes full of the message. Is this by
> any chance what you are seeing?
>
>And yes, there are rules that catch it. Every one has been marked
>spam here, quite handily.
>
>{^_^}

I wonder if perhaps earthlink is not the only ISP with that problem.  
I have my vz prefs set to delete any detected spam as I have now 
switched to a fetchmail based mail suck.

Haveing a kmail problem the other day, I logged in via the webmail at 
vz, and found 9 messages, all spam, sitting in the spam folder there.

So I checkmarked them to be deleted, and as I had the tech support guy 
on my ear at the time, I noted that delete didn't, it just moved the 
stuff to the trash folder.  That pulled my trigger and I made it 
clear to the support drone that when I clicked on delete, thats 
exactly what I intended to happen.  As vz is currently setup, you 
then have to move to the trash folder, select them all again, and 
click delete to be able to be truely rid of the wasted space.

-- 
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
99.35% setiathome rank, not too shabby for a WV hillbilly
Yahoo.com and AOL/TW attorneys please note, additions to the above
message by Gene Heskett are:
Copyright 2005 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved.