ok_locales en Unexpected behavior

2006-02-14 Thread Harry Putnam
Running spamassassin-3.1.0

I have `ok_locales en' set in local.cf.  I had hoped that would cut
down on the amount of processing SA has to do, but I see messages with
a subject line like this:

  Subject: Replicas dos melhores relogios

That still grind thru lots of processing and never did hit the
   CHARSET_FAR- AWAY_HEADERS

Is there something else I need to tweak so that this is seen right
away and no further processing is done, or is setting ok_locales just
not all that usefull.

SA report on that message:
*  1.8 X_IP Message has X-IP header
*  3.6 MIME_BOUND_DD_DIGITS Spam tool pattern in MIME boundary
*  3.4 HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR Relay HELO'd using suspicious hostname (IP 
addr
*  1)
*  3.5 MSGID_SPAM_CAPS Spam tool Message-Id: (caps variant)
*  2.2 FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD Forged hotmail.com 'Received:' header found
*  0.0 UNPARSEABLE_RELAY Informational: message has unparseable relay
*  lines
*  0.2 HTML_IMAGE_RATIO_02 BODY: HTML has a low ratio of text to image
*  area
*  0.9 HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24 BODY: HTML: images with 2000-2400 bytes of 
words
*  0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message
*  0.3 HTML_FONT_BIG BODY: HTML tag for a big font size
*  0.1 MPART_ALT_DIFF BODY: HTML and text parts are different
*  0.0 MIME_HTML_ONLY BODY: Message only has text/html MIME parts
*  1.5 MIME_BASE64_TEXT RAW: Message text disguised using base64 
encoding
*  0.5 DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE RBL: Envelope sender in abuse.rfc-ignorant.org
*  3.1 RCVD_IN_XBL RBL: Received via a relay in Spamhaus XBL
*  [70.35.234.34 listed in sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org]
*  2.0 RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL RBL: SORBS: sent directly from dynamic IP 
address
*  [70.35.234.34 listed in dnsbl.sorbs.net]
*  1.8 RCVD_IN_DSBL RBL: Received via a relay in list.dsbl.org
*  [http://dsbl.org/listing?70.35.234.34]
*  1.3 RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET RBL: Received via a relay in 
bl.spamcop.net
*  [Blocked - see http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?70.35.234.34]
*  1.4 DNS_FROM_RFC_POST RBL: Envelope sender in
*  postmaster.rfc-ignorant.org
*  3.5 RCVD_DOUBLE_IP_SPAM Bulk email fingerprint (double IP) found
*  0.0 MIME_HTML_ONLY_MULTI Multipart message only has text/html MIME
*  parts
*  1.4 MISSING_MIMEOLE Message has X-MSMail-Priority, but no X-MimeOLE
*  1.0 FORGED_MUA_AOL_FROM Forged mail pretending to be from AOL (by 
From)
*  0.0 REPTO_QUOTE_AOL AOL doesn't do quoting like this




Re: Spamassassin not scanning all emails

2006-02-14 Thread Loren Wilton
 My Spamassassin worked for years without skipping any emails.  Suddenly
 (and not coresponding to an upgrade) emails started showing up in my inbox
 without spamassassin headers.

Look in your log and see if you have reports of an 'insecure dependency' in
SA.

Loren



Re: ok_locales en Unexpected behavior

2006-02-14 Thread jdow

Nothing of note short circuits any of the SpamAssassin tests. They all
have to be evaluated because a positive or negative score might get over-
ridden by subsequent processing. Suppose you had a whitelist entry that
forgot and sent you a message in Spanish?

{^_^}
- Original Message - 
From: Harry Putnam [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Running spamassassin-3.1.0

I have `ok_locales en' set in local.cf.  I had hoped that would cut
down on the amount of processing SA has to do, but I see messages with
a subject line like this:

 Subject: Replicas dos melhores relogios

That still grind thru lots of processing and never did hit the
  CHARSET_FAR- AWAY_HEADERS

Is there something else I need to tweak so that this is seen right
away and no further processing is done, or is setting ok_locales just
not all that usefull.

SA report on that message:
*  1.8 X_IP Message has X-IP header
*  3.6 MIME_BOUND_DD_DIGITS Spam tool pattern in MIME boundary
*  3.4 HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR Relay HELO'd using suspicious hostname (IP addr
*  1)
*  3.5 MSGID_SPAM_CAPS Spam tool Message-Id: (caps variant)
*  2.2 FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD Forged hotmail.com 'Received:' header found
*  0.0 UNPARSEABLE_RELAY Informational: message has unparseable relay
*  lines
*  0.2 HTML_IMAGE_RATIO_02 BODY: HTML has a low ratio of text to image
*  area
*  0.9 HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_24 BODY: HTML: images with 2000-2400 bytes of words
*  0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message
*  0.3 HTML_FONT_BIG BODY: HTML tag for a big font size
*  0.1 MPART_ALT_DIFF BODY: HTML and text parts are different
*  0.0 MIME_HTML_ONLY BODY: Message only has text/html MIME parts
*  1.5 MIME_BASE64_TEXT RAW: Message text disguised using base64 encoding
*  0.5 DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE RBL: Envelope sender in abuse.rfc-ignorant.org
*  3.1 RCVD_IN_XBL RBL: Received via a relay in Spamhaus XBL
*  [70.35.234.34 listed in sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org]
*  2.0 RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL RBL: SORBS: sent directly from dynamic IP address
*  [70.35.234.34 listed in dnsbl.sorbs.net]
*  1.8 RCVD_IN_DSBL RBL: Received via a relay in list.dsbl.org
*  [http://dsbl.org/listing?70.35.234.34]
*  1.3 RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET RBL: Received via a relay in bl.spamcop.net
*  [Blocked - see http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?70.35.234.34]
*  1.4 DNS_FROM_RFC_POST RBL: Envelope sender in
*  postmaster.rfc-ignorant.org
*  3.5 RCVD_DOUBLE_IP_SPAM Bulk email fingerprint (double IP) found
*  0.0 MIME_HTML_ONLY_MULTI Multipart message only has text/html MIME
*  parts
*  1.4 MISSING_MIMEOLE Message has X-MSMail-Priority, but no X-MimeOLE
*  1.0 FORGED_MUA_AOL_FROM Forged mail pretending to be from AOL (by From)
*  0.0 REPTO_QUOTE_AOL AOL doesn't do quoting like this



Re: RES: RES:

2006-02-14 Thread Loren Wilton
 But I think that some times ago I got some rules and when I made
 upgrade to new version it stop to worked.

 20_porn.cf
 bogus-virus-warnings.cf
 chickenpox.cf
 evilrules.cf  local.cf-new
 antidrug.cf  br_rules.cf
 DomainDigits1.cf
 viruses.cf

Many of these are common files.  Unless they have been corrupted they should
not be problems:

 bogus-virus-warnings.cf
 chickenpox.cf
 antidrug.cf
 DomainDigits1.cf

These are much less common files.  There could be a problem in one of these:

 20_porn.cf
 evilrules.cf
 local.cf-new
 br_rules.cf
 viruses.cf

I would expect a grep for /n.nn/ to show up in one of these.

Loren

BTW, if you are using 3.x, you should NOT be using antidrug.cf.  It is
already built into SA.



Re: ok_locales en Unexpected behavior

2006-02-14 Thread Loren Wilton
 I have `ok_locales en' set in local.cf.  I had hoped that would cut
 down on the amount of processing SA has to do, but I see messages with
 a subject line like this:

   Subject: Replicas dos melhores relogios

 That still grind thru lots of processing and never did hit the
CHARSET_FAR- AWAY_HEADERS

 Is there something else I need to tweak so that this is seen right
 away and no further processing is done, or is setting ok_locales just
 not all that usefull.

There ain't nothing, period, that will short-circuit SA processing.  If it
gets its hands on a mail, it is going to run ALL the rules on it, regardless
of current accumulated score at any point in the processing.

What ok_locales should do for you is add points to spams from far away.  Of
course, that is based on them actually having a charset: declaration in them
somewhere.  In that subject line you quoted I don't see a single non-English
character.  They happen to be arranged in a manner that suggests to me that
it is Spanish.  But unless there was a charset clause someplace, SA isn't
going to know that pile of letters from a locally-generated spam.

Loren



It's nice when they tell you they are sending a spam...

2006-02-14 Thread Loren Wilton
But one does have to wonder why they bothered sending it!

Subject: SPAM:(L2) Making any textile product for you to save your cost(usa)
Date: Tue, 07 Feb 06 09:04:02 ¥x¥_¼Ð·Ç®É¶¡
X-WinProxy-AntiSpam-Message: Scanned by http://www.WinProxy.com/WinProxy
X-WinProxy-AntiSpam: Spam (77.50%)

Yes, those are the headers from the spam as received, before my own SA had a
chance to decide that it was indeed spam.

Loren



Re: ok_locales en Unexpected behavior

2006-02-14 Thread Matt Kettler
Harry Putnam wrote:
 Running spamassassin-3.1.0

 I have `ok_locales en' set in local.cf.  I had hoped that would cut
 down on the amount of processing SA has to do, but I see messages with
 a subject line like this:
   
Turning on features will pretty much never reduce the amount of
processing SA has to do.
   Subject: Replicas dos melhores relogios

 That still grind thru lots of processing and never did hit the
CHARSET_FAR- AWAY_HEADERS

   
Well, that particular subject looks to only contain ordinary ascii.
Can't hit any CHARSET rules when there's no charachter set to hit.

Are you using ok_languages as well?


cmd to restart spamd on Mac OSX

2006-02-14 Thread Patrick Sneyers

Hi,

Can anybody tell me what command shoud be used on
Mac OSX 10.3 (Panther)
Mac OSX 10.4 (Tiger)
to restart spamd?

Thanks,
Patrick Sneyers
Belgium


Re: User getting spammed to death

2006-02-14 Thread jdow

From: Loren Wilton [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 and I also consider to reject mails that have a random
 display name added to my email

How do you do that?

I'd sure love to reject e-mail that says To: Joe Smith
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) but what about mail where they don't enter any
name?

Baby, bathwater...


You do it with a *really* *ugly* set of rules and a meta.  Or well, you can
only reject if you are doing it at the frontend, and as you point out
rejecting may not be appropriate.  But I do add, I forget, 3-5 points for
getting my name wrong if you include a display name.

# 
# mail is not really to me
# Look for a string of [[]First Last[ ][]] [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
# the name at the front is optional, but if it is there it better be right.

header  __TO_METoCc =~ /(?:^|\,|\|,)\s*(?:\?\'?First
.*?\b?Last\s*\'?\?\s*\?(?i:[EMAIL PROTECTED])\?|\?(?i:[EMAIL 
PROTECTED])\?)/
meta  NOT_TO_ME   (!__TO_ME)
describe NOT_TO_ME   Mail is not addressed to me


The real problem here is that it is a unique solution for every user.
The not quite so nasty problem is the number of different ways to render
my name, especially if I allow for most of the common fsckups.

You and I are lucky in that we can reject anything to us at .com, which
is almost certainly spam. (Some people make the mistake. I correct them.
And I score the mistake fairly high. And there are other address manglings
I give even higher scores than the .com.)

{^_-}


Re: ok_locales en Unexpected behavior

2006-02-14 Thread Michael Monnerie
On Dienstag, 14. Februar 2006 14:05 Harry Putnam wrote:
 Judging from yours and other posts on this thread, I'm looking for
 something that is able to tell with some certainty when a subject
 line is not in english.  Something that gets to a message before SA
 is called.   Like maybe a nifty procmail recipe.

I guess it would be easier to use RBL at MTA level. Greylisting helps a 
lot, too.

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Re: ok_locales en Unexpected behavior

2006-02-14 Thread Harry Putnam
jdow [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Nothing of note short circuits any of the SpamAssassin tests. They all
 have to be evaluated because a positive or negative score might get over-
 ridden by subsequent processing. Suppose you had a whitelist entry that
 forgot and sent you a message in Spanish?

I see your point.  Perhaps someone has devised a nifty procmail recipe
that gets close I've asked on the procmail list now.



Re: cmd to restart spamd on Mac OSX

2006-02-14 Thread Steve Martin
That would probably depend on how you started it in the first place  
(launchd, a Startup Item, etc.)


On Feb 14, 2006, at 4:28 AM, Patrick Sneyers wrote:


Hi,

Can anybody tell me what command shoud be used on
Mac OSX 10.3 (Panther)
Mac OSX 10.4 (Tiger)
to restart spamd?

Thanks,
Patrick Sneyers
Belgium


--

Steve Martin
Personal: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Business: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Smart Calibration, LLC
http://www.smartcalibration.com/





Re: Using Inet to launch spamd

2006-02-14 Thread Henry F. Camacho Jr

Yes, I believe I outlined this in a previous message.

HFC


mouss wrote:


Henry F. Camacho Jr a écrit :
 


Matt:

Hmmm...  Matt, this is exactly what init is designed to do, it will
respawn any daemon that stops running, and reruns it automatically. 
Some people use something called daemon tools, or something called

supervisor, all which work just fine.  I think init does a great job of
this also assuming the daemon is well behaved.

   



init wasn't designed for that. I learned this the hard way. init is ok
for system services that were tested for long and are simple enough
(they may theoritically crash, but this almost never happens, and if
this ever happens, they are fixed soon).

now, the same functionality can be implemented with one's own
daemonizer/manager. you can use a periodic task to check spamd and
restart it. or you could hack the code to add a super-parent that waits
for signals and restarts the parent (its child) if bad things happen.

of course, if spamd crashes, then it would be good to know why/when that
happens, so it can be fixed if possible.
 



smime.p7s
Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature


Re: cmd to restart spamd on Mac OSX

2006-02-14 Thread Benjamin Adams

If you have it on  your startup items, you can use systemstarter,
sudo systemstarter restart spamd

If you don't know you can restart spamd by:
ps -auxx | grep spam
	root11981   0.0 -1.153504  23480  ??  Ss   date  time /usr/ 
bin/spamd -d(cp this)

sudo kill -9 11981
sudo spamd -d(paste here)

That will restart the program also

On Feb 14, 2006, at 9:17 AM, Steve Martin wrote:

That would probably depend on how you started it in the first place  
(launchd, a Startup Item, etc.)


On Feb 14, 2006, at 4:28 AM, Patrick Sneyers wrote:


Hi,

Can anybody tell me what command shoud be used on
Mac OSX 10.3 (Panther)
Mac OSX 10.4 (Tiger)
to restart spamd?

Thanks,
Patrick Sneyers
Belgium


--

Steve Martin
Personal: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Business: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Smart Calibration, LLC
http://www.smartcalibration.com/








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www.AmbrosiaSW.com






SA install probs

2006-02-14 Thread lists


OK,I have done this countless times and have never had this problem.

I have tried installing SA on a new system running OS X and Perl 5.8.8

Everything seems to go through fine, as usual, but none of the scripts get
installed in the usr/bin folder. All the other support folders and libraries
go through fine, but not spamassassin. Spamc, sa-update, spamd, etc...

Anyone have an idea on what is going wrong?

TIA





Re: SA install probs

2006-02-14 Thread Matt Kettler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 OK,I have done this countless times and have never had this problem.
 
 I have tried installing SA on a new system running OS X and Perl 5.8.8
 
 Everything seems to go through fine, as usual, but none of the scripts get
 installed in the usr/bin folder. All the other support folders and libraries
 go through fine, but not spamassassin. Spamc, sa-update, spamd, etc...
 
 Anyone have an idea on what is going wrong?

Are they being installed in /usr/local/bin instead?


Re: SA install probs

2006-02-14 Thread lists
on 2/14/06 11:08 AM, Matt Kettler at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 OK,I have done this countless times and have never had this problem.
 
 I have tried installing SA on a new system running OS X and Perl 5.8.8
 
 Everything seems to go through fine, as usual, but none of the scripts get
 installed in the usr/bin folder. All the other support folders and libraries
 go through fine, but not spamassassin. Spamc, sa-update, spamd, etc...
 
 Anyone have an idea on what is going wrong?
 
 Are they being installed in /usr/local/bin instead?


No, I just realized they, along with a bunch of other things, are being put
in '/usr/local/scripts' folder ???

Never seen this before.

-Mike





Re: SA install probs

2006-02-14 Thread lists
on 2/14/06 11:12 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 OK,I have done this countless times and have never had this problem.
 
 I have tried installing SA on a new system running OS X and Perl 5.8.8
 
 Everything seems to go through fine, as usual, but none of the scripts get
 installed in the usr/bin folder. All the other support folders and libraries
 go through fine, but not spamassassin. Spamc, sa-update, spamd, etc...
 
 Anyone have an idea on what is going wrong?
 
 Are they being installed in /usr/local/bin instead?
 
 
 No, I just realized they, along with a bunch of other things, are being put
 in '/usr/local/scripts' folder ???
 
 Never seen this before.
 
 -Mike


OK, I just found this interesting tidbit of info. Gonna post it here in case
anyone else runs into this problem...


If you have a directory on your system named /usr/local/scripts, perl will
attempt to put some things in it that you would rather have in the bin/
subdirectory. If you have this directory, move it to /usr/local/scripts.off
before compiling perl and move it back after installing.


-Mike




RE: General assistance

2006-02-14 Thread Ed Russell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] log]# cat /etc/dnscache/log/run 
#!/bin/sh
#exec setuidgid gdnslog multilog t ./main
exec setuidgid gdnslog multilog -*

You can see that as opposed to multilog t ./main I use multilog -*

That will do it.  Enjoy.

Ed


---

 Talk is cheap since supply always exceeds demand.

---
 
-Original Message-
From: Daniel Cañas Montero [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 11:14 AM
To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: Re: General assistance


On Feb 11, 2006, at 3:14 PM, Ed Russell wrote:

 I have to say a heartfelt THANK YOU to everyone who contributed to  
 this
 thread.  My filter is working 500% more efficient that it ever  
 was.  I have
 done the following:

 1.Installed djbdns and I am using dnscache as I was told.  I have
 increased the cache size to 100 Megabytes and completely disabled  
 logging
 after determining it was working properly.

How do you disable logging completely? I use multilog and filter out  
all the lines so it logs nothing.
Is there a way to tell dnscache not to actually spit anything out?



 2.I have implemented rbl at the MTA level, I use relays.ordb.org and
 sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org.

 3.I have implemented Rules Du Jour.  I selected a subset of the SARE
 rules and misc others.

 4.I have turned back on pyzor, razor and dcc.

 Scanning times are well within tolerance with a minimal impact on  
 delivery
 time.  See below (email addresses removed for privacy):




How stop this new spam !

2006-02-14 Thread J. TOUIN
Hi,

How stop this new spam !
No URL, no texte, only image !
Only DNSBL could be use on it...

Regards,
J.Touin



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Re: How stop this new spam !

2006-02-14 Thread Matt Kettler
J. TOUIN wrote:
 Hi,
 
 How stop this new spam !
 No URL, no texte, only image !
 Only DNSBL could be use on it...
 

First, that email message was slightly corrupted. The headers are missing.

Second, there's plenty of text in that message. However, it's using HTML tags to
make the text invisible. You'll have to view the message source to see the,


That said, my SA 3.1.0 had *NO* problem at all tearing this email up.

Content analysis details:   (11.8 points, 5.0 required)

 pts rule name  description
 -- --
-0.0 NO_RELAYS  Informational: message was not relayed via SMTP
 0.1 HTML_50_60 BODY: Message is 50% to 60% HTML
 2.3 UNIQUE_WORDS   BODY: Message body has many words used only once
 1.9 HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_12 BODY: HTML: images with 800-1200 bytes of words
 1.0 BAYES_60   BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 60 to 80%
[score: 0.6489]
 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE   BODY: HTML included in message
 0.0 MIME_HTML_ONLY BODY: Message only has text/html MIME parts
 2.7 PRIORITY_NO_NAME   Message has priority, but no user agent name
 3.8 LONGWORDS  Long string of long words
-0.0 NO_RECEIVEDInformational: message has no Received header


You can ignore the NO_RELAYS and NO_RECEIVED, as those are artifacts of your
attachment not having all the headers.

Still, UNIQUE_WORDS and LONGWORDS should have both fired off if you're using SA
3.1.0, racking up well over 6.0 points.

What results did YOUR SA get for this message?


Re: combined distribution of email list

2006-02-14 Thread Chris Thielen
Barton L. Phillips wrote:

 Is there a combined list distribution? Many other email lists
 distribute one combined email per day instead of dozens of separate
 email. The volume of emails makes it hard to keep up .

One thing you can do is set up a separate folder for each mailing list
you subscribe to.  Use your mail client's filtering capabilities to move
the incoming emails into their own folder.

With this list, you can match on the following email header:

List-ID: users.spamassassin.apache.org


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Re: User getting spammed to death

2006-02-14 Thread mouss
jdow a écrit :
 
 The real problem here is that it is a unique solution for every user.
 The not quite so nasty problem is the number of different ways to render
 my name, especially if I allow for most of the common fsckups.
 

agreed. I have many contacts who add me to their own addr book with
their choice of display name (mouss/company, mouss/context, moos,
$local_name, ... etc). so filtering the To/CC display name isn't for
everyone.



 You and I are lucky in that we can reject anything to us at .com, which
 is almost certainly spam. (Some people make the mistake. I correct them.
 And I score the mistake fairly high. And there are other address manglings
 I give even higher scores than the .com.)
 



RE: General assistance

2006-02-14 Thread Chris Santerre
Title: RE: General assistance





I would like to make a quick comment to everyone who has helped in this thread:


Great job. Seriously. Some good answers here. Can we we all take a minute to make sure these answers are posted somewhere on the SA wiki's for future reference? Its been a while since we had a push for additions.

http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/
and
http://www.exit0.us/


Your chance to preserve your helpful info in the anals of history. (That almost sounds painful!)


Thanks!


Chris Santerre
SysAdmin and SARE/URIBL ninja
http://www.uribl.com
http://www.rulesemporium.com




 -Original Message-
 From: Ed Russell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 4:42 PM
 To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
 Subject: RE: General assistance
 
 
 I was doing some reading and I am beginning to look into 
 Rules Du Jour. I
 see there are quite a large number of rulesets to choose from 
 when utilizing
 this. Does anyone have any advice on what ones would be safe?
 
 Ed
 
 
 ---
 
 Talk is cheap since supply always exceeds demand.
 
 ---
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: DAve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 4:30 PM
 To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
 Subject: Re: General assistance
 
 Bowie Bailey wrote:
  DAve wrote:
  
 Ed Russell wrote:
 
 2. Once this is in place should I re-activate pzyor, dcc or razor? 
 Is one better than the other? Are there advantages to either?
 
 I use neither, though I think I am in the minority. I 
 routinely check
  my spam and I have found that bayes, rayzor, dcc, and most of the
 SARE rules catch little if any spam for me. So I don't 
 run them and
 save the CPU for additional spamd processes.
  
  
  That's odd. Bayes, Razor2, DCC work quite well for me. 
 Check out my
  stats from today:
  
  TOP SPAM RULES FIRED
  
  RANK RULE NAME COUNT %OFRULES 
 %OFMAIL %OFSPAM
  %OFHAM
  
  1 RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_51_100 1280 5.02 
 48.05 83.33
  0.98
  2 RAZOR2_CHECK 1259 4.94 
 47.26 81.97
  1.15
  3 RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_E8_51_100 1164 4.56 
 43.69 75.78
  0.27
 
  
  
  Razor2 caught 83% of the spam, DCC caught 68%, and Bayes got 64%.
  
 
 They tagged plenty of spam for me, no doubt about that. But 
 they caught 
 only a few spam that SA wouldn't have caught without them. It is rare 
 that bayes points on top of existing points ever made the 
 score squeek 
 over the threshold.
 
 Not using them however, dropped my CPU, network, and memory 
 requirements 
 so much I could run twice as many spamd processes. Processing 
 time went 
 from an average of 10 seconds (with all SARE rules, bayes, 
 DCC, Razor) 
 to 2 seconds (limited SARE, no bayes, no razor, no dcc).
 
 All the SARE rules loaded makes spamd run about 45-75mb each, 
 selective 
 SARE rules and I can see spamd drop to 23-35mb. More spamd, 
 faster spamd.
 
 Of course tommorrow, everything could change ;^)
 
 DAve
 
 
 





Re: General assistance

2006-02-14 Thread DAve

Chris Santerre wrote:

I would like to make a quick comment to everyone who has helped in this
thread:

Great job. Seriously. Some good answers here. Can we we all take a minute to
make sure these answers are posted somewhere on the SA wiki's for future
reference? Its been a while since we had a push for additions.

http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/
and
http://www.exit0.us/


Cool, never saw that before.



Your chance to preserve your helpful info in the anals of history. (That
almost sounds painful!)

Thanks!



Tell me what parts should be added, and where to put them,

Tips and Tricks?
Performance Hints?
Managing High Load?

and I will add what I can.

DAve


RE: General assistance

2006-02-14 Thread Chris Santerre
Title: RE: General assistance







 -Original Message-
 From: DAve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 3:14 PM
 To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
 Subject: Re: General assistance
 
 
 Chris Santerre wrote:
  I would like to make a quick comment to everyone who has 
 helped in this
  thread:
  
  Great job. Seriously. Some good answers here. Can we we all 
 take a minute to
  make sure these answers are posted somewhere on the SA 
 wiki's for future
  reference? Its been a while since we had a push for additions.
  
  http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/
  and
  http://www.exit0.us/
 
 Cool, never saw that before.
 
  
  Your chance to preserve your helpful info in the anals of 
 history. (That
  almost sounds painful!)
  
  Thanks!
  
 
 Tell me what parts should be added, and where to put them,
 
 Tips and Tricks?
 Performance Hints?
 Managing High Load?
 
 and I will add what I can.
 
 DAve



Thats the beauty of a wiki, put it anywhere you like. We can always change it. ;) 


--Chris





Re: General assistance

2006-02-14 Thread DAve

Chris Santerre wrote:



-Original Message-
From: DAve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 3:14 PM
To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: Re: General assistance


Chris Santerre wrote:

I would like to make a quick comment to everyone who has 


helped in this


thread:

Great job. Seriously. Some good answers here. Can we we all 


take a minute to

make sure these answers are posted somewhere on the SA 


wiki's for future


reference? Its been a while since we had a push for additions.

http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/
and
http://www.exit0.us/


Cool, never saw that before.


Your chance to preserve your helpful info in the anals of 


history. (That


almost sounds painful!)

Thanks!



Tell me what parts should be added, and where to put them,

Tips and Tricks?
Performance Hints?
Managing High Load?

and I will add what I can.

DAve




Thats the beauty of a wiki, put it anywhere you like. We can always change
it. ;) 


--Chris



Don't get me started on Wikis, I still have nightmares about 
faq-o-matics. No one is worse, or more negligent, or more lazy about 
documentation that a sysadmin. I know cause I am one, and I have two 
documentation projects I haven't even started yet (whoops).


Anyone who thought that sysadmins would self document through a Wiki had 
a screw loose or a drinking problem. But I will stop crying now and 
endevor to become part of the solution! ;^)


DAve



Two mails completely blocking SA 3.1.0 !

2006-02-14 Thread Matthias Keller

Hi

Today I received two mails which kept clogging my mailqueues as 
spamassassin never terminated analyzing them.


I do have the two messages causing this on my SA 3.1.0 and the debug 
output - it always hangs in the running full-text regexp tests section...


Could someone from Spamassassin contact me directly please?

Matt


Re: Two mails completely blocking SA 3.1.0 !

2006-02-14 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea

Matthias Keller wrote:

Hi

Today I received two mails which kept clogging my mailqueues as 
spamassassin never terminated analyzing them.


I do have the two messages causing this on my SA 3.1.0 and the debug 
output - it always hangs in the running full-text regexp tests section...


Could someone from Spamassassin contact me directly please?

Matt


http://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/



Re: Two mails completely blocking SA 3.1.0 !

2006-02-14 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Tue, Feb 14, 2006 at 04:48:17PM -0500, Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote:
 I do have the two messages causing this on my SA 3.1.0 and the debug 
 output - it always hangs in the running full-text regexp tests section...
 
 http://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/

It would also help to mention if you have any additional rules added in.
SA by itself only has 3 (well, 6, but it's really 3,) full rules, and
they're all calling external apps to do network checks (DCC, Pyzor,
and Razor).  My understanding is that all of them will indicate through
the debug output that they're starting processing.  So if I don't see
anything after that line, my guess is you have some other full rule
added in which has a horrible regular expression that's taking forever on
certain mails (which is why we highly recommend _not_ using full rules!)

-- 
Randomly Generated Tagline:
I'm gonna be a science fiction hero, just like Uhura, or Captain Janeway,
 or Xena! -Fry 
 Fry, this isn't TV, it's real life. Can't you tell the difference? -Leela 
 Sure, I just like TV better. -Fry 


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Re: Two mails completely blocking SA 3.1.0 !

2006-02-14 Thread Matt Kettler
Matthias Keller wrote:
 Hi
 
 Today I received two mails which kept clogging my mailqueues as
 spamassassin never terminated analyzing them.
 
 I do have the two messages causing this on my SA 3.1.0 and the debug
 output - it always hangs in the running full-text regexp tests section...
 
 Could someone from Spamassassin contact me directly please?

Maybe someone will, but that might not be quick.. the primary developers are
busy folks after all.


I assume you want a direct contact so you can provide a sample off-line without
publicly posting it.

That said, I might be able to help you without posting the message..


Is the message itself large (250k)? If so, well, SA can't handle scanning large
mail. That's why spamc defaults to not scanning messages over 250k.

Do you allow user rules and have any full type rules in a user_prefs file? There
seems to be some rare problems with full and rawbody rules in user_prefs files.
However, this generally manifests itself as an un-scanned message, not a
log-jammed mailqueue.




Re: Two mails completely blocking SA 3.1.0 !

2006-02-14 Thread Matthias Keller

Theo Van Dinter wrote:


On Tue, Feb 14, 2006 at 04:48:17PM -0500, Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote:
 

I do have the two messages causing this on my SA 3.1.0 and the debug 
output - it always hangs in the running full-text regexp tests section...
 


http://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/
   



It would also help to mention if you have any additional rules added in.
SA by itself only has 3 (well, 6, but it's really 3,) full rules, and
they're all calling external apps to do network checks (DCC, Pyzor,
and Razor).  My understanding is that all of them will indicate through
the debug output that they're starting processing.  So if I don't see
anything after that line, my guess is you have some other full rule
added in which has a horrible regular expression that's taking forever on
certain mails (which is why we highly recommend _not_ using full rules!)
 


Thanks, that was it!

There was an ancient full rule which went mad on this particular mail 
which i was able to remove.


Thanks

Matt


Re: Two mails completely blocking SA 3.1.0 !

2006-02-14 Thread Matthias Keller

Matt Kettler wrote:


Matthias Keller wrote:
 


Hi

Today I received two mails which kept clogging my mailqueues as
spamassassin never terminated analyzing them.

I do have the two messages causing this on my SA 3.1.0 and the debug
output - it always hangs in the running full-text regexp tests section...

Could someone from Spamassassin contact me directly please?
   


Is the message itself large (250k)? If so, well, SA can't handle scanning large
mail. That's why spamc defaults to not scanning messages over 250k.

Do you allow user rules and have any full type rules in a user_prefs file? There
seems to be some rare problems with full and rawbody rules in user_prefs files.
However, this generally manifests itself as an un-scanned message, not a
log-jammed mailqueue.
 

Well, now i found a full rule from a long time ago which never made any 
troubles but this particular message contained lots of whitespaces and 
special characters and this rule made it into some kind of recursion.
But yes, the one thing that troubles me a bit is that SA seemed to be 
crashed in a way...
I'm using Spamassassin which should terminate the process after 6 
minutes for such cases.. but amavisd-new itself seemed to crash - i 
wasn't able to kill it normally, i had to use  kill -9  !!


when run normally using  spamassassin  badmail.txt  I'm able to 
terminate it with ctrl-c tough...?


If you want I can provide you the two samples

Matt



Configuring Spamassassin with postfix on MacOs 10.4

2006-02-14 Thread W. Craig Carter


I've been trying to get spamassassin to work with my working Postfix 
mailserver and have tried long enough that I am afraid that I need 
to ask for help. Help!

I am including below my best attempt at full details:

I've successfully installed spamassassin

% spamassassin -V
SpamAssassin version 3.1.0
   running on Perl version 5.8.6

and verified that my header_rewrite rule works with

/usr/bin/spamassassin -D  sample-spam.txt

I'd like to get spamd to insert the same header, but I can't get it 
to work, and can't get any useful clues from searching docs and 
wikis.

I tried the advice on 
http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/IntegratedSpamdInPostfix

I created a user with name spamassassin and edited master.cf so that 
it contains
smtp  inet  n   -   n   -   -   smtpd -o  
content_filter=spamassassin

and

spamassassin unix  -   n   n   -   -   pipe
user=spamassassin argv=/usr/bin/spamc -e /sw/sbin/sendmail -oi -f ${sender} 
${recipient}


I've launched spamd with sudo:
sudo spamd
and can see that it is there:
% ps -aux | grep spam
root 19453   0.0 -1.042876  21456  p3  S 4:40PM   0:11.13 
/usr/bin/perl -T -w /usr/bin/spamd
root 19455   0.0 -0.142416   1656  p3  S 4:40PM   0:00.12 spamd 
child
root 19456   0.0 -0.142416   1604  p3  S 4:40PM   0:00.08 spamd 
child


I hoped this would work, but it doesn't. Mail comes in (here is a 
typical log) but doesn't appear to be getting the header_rewrite
mail.log:
Feb 13 16:40:58 pruffle spamd[19453]: spamd: server started on port 783/tcp 
(running version 3.1.0)
  (the above is the last message from spamd)
:
:
Feb 14 12:40:53 pruffle postfix/smtpd[20557]: connect from 
fort-point-station.mit.edu[18.7.7.76]
Feb 14 12:40:53 pruffle postfix/smtpd[20557]: 3590513E8C8: 
client=fort-point-station.mit.edu[18.7.7.76]
Feb 14 12:40:53 pruffle postfix/cleanup[20554]: 3590513E8C8: message-id=[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]
Feb 14 12:40:53 pruffle postfix/qmgr[20527]: 3590513E8C8: from=[EMAIL 
PROTECTED], size=5923, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Feb 14 12:40:53 pruffle postfix/smtpd[20557]: disconnect from 
fort-point-station.mit.edu[18.7.7.76]
Feb 14 12:40:53 pruffle postfix/local[20559]: 3590513E8C8: to=[EMAIL 
PROTECTED], relay=local, delay=0, status=sent (delivered to mailbox)
Feb 14 12:40:53 pruffle postfix/cleanup[20554]: 68E5113E8C9: message-id=[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]
Feb 14 12:40:53 pruffle postfix/local[20559]: 3590513E8C8: to=[EMAIL 
PROTECTED], relay=local, delay=0, status=sent (forwarded as
68E5113E8C9) Feb 14 12:40:53 pruffle postfix/qmgr[20527]: 68E5113E8C9:
from=[EMAIL PROTECTED], size=6058, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Feb 14 12:40:53 pruffle postfix/qmgr[20527]: 3590513E8C8: removed
o

Thanks for any advice! Craig Carter

PS: I've also tried following the simple example in FILTER_README 
with
# Specify your content filter here.
  spamassassin in.$$
didn't work either, even though the script seems to be behaving 
propoerly..



W. Craig Carter
Lord Foundation Professor of Materials Science and Engineering
MIT, Dept. of Materials Science and Engineering 13-5018  77 Massachusetts Ave, 
Cambridge, MA 02139-4307 USA
617-253-6048  [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pruffle.mit.edu/~ccarter 
http://pruffle.mit.edu/~ccarter/FAQS/ 
http://pruffle.mit.edu/~ccarter/I_do_not_use_microsoft.html


Re: How stop this new spam !

2006-02-14 Thread Chris
On Tuesday 14 February 2006 12:12 pm, Matt Kettler wrote:


 Content analysis details:   (11.8 points, 5.0 required)

  pts rule name  description
  --
 -- -0.0 NO_RELAYS
  Informational: message was not relayed via SMTP 0.1 HTML_50_60  
   BODY: Message is 50% to 60% HTML
  2.3 UNIQUE_WORDS   BODY: Message body has many words used only
 once 1.9 HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_12 BODY: HTML: images with 800-1200 bytes of
 words 1.0 BAYES_60   BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 60 to
 80% [score: 0.6489]
  0.0 HTML_MESSAGE   BODY: HTML included in message
  0.0 MIME_HTML_ONLY BODY: Message only has text/html MIME parts
  2.7 PRIORITY_NO_NAME   Message has priority, but no user agent name
  3.8 LONGWORDS  Long string of long words
 -0.0 NO_RECEIVEDInformational: message has no Received header

Just for comparison Matt my 3.1 scored this way:

Content analysis details:   (14.0 points, 5.0 required)

 pts rule name  description
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-0.0 NO_RELAYS  Informational: message was not relayed via SMTP
 2.5 MISSING_HB_SEP Missing blank line between message header and 
body
 2.0 FVGT_b_N0N0_WORDS  BODY: FVGT - The b0dy c0nta1ns [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
w0rds
 1.7 SARE_ADLTOBFU  BODY: Contains OBFU adult material
 3.5 BAYES_99   BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 99 to 100%
[score: 1.]
 1.0 M_K_N0N0_WORDS_BODYRAW: The body contains n0n0 words
 1.8 MISSING_SUBJECTMissing Subject: header
 0.4 UPPERCASE_50_75message body is 50-75% uppercase
 0.1 TO_CC_NONE No To: or Cc: header
-0.0 NO_RECEIVEDInformational: message has no Received headers
 1.0 SAGREY Adds 1.0 to spam from first-time senders

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Re: RDJ, wget, and proxy

2006-02-14 Thread leonard . gray

I finally got curl installed and fixed.
The problem with both is our proxy server obviously doesn't handle
basic proxy authentication. There's a curl option that's
something like --any_authentication that tries all different kinds of auth.
That finally got me through.

I have been only trying from the command
line so far (early in setup). I'm sure there are more challenges
ahead when I get to cron.

Thanks!






Chris Thielen [EMAIL PROTECTED]

02/14/2006 01:45 PM




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cc
SpamAssassin users@spamassassin.apache.org


Subject
Re: RDJ, wget, and proxy








[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I'm trying to get rulesdejour going here and having one heck of a
time
 making it through my proxy.

 to access the proxy server. I have the proxy_user and proxy_password
 configured in my
 /usr/local/etc/wgetrc file, but continue to receive 407
 Authentication Required whenever the wget requests try to process.

Does rules_du_jour run from the command line OK, but not via cron? If
so, one problem you *may* be experiencing is that the cron program runs
jobs with NO ENVIRONMENT by default. Does wget look to
/usr/local/etc/wgetrc by default? 


One thing you could try is forcing the wget parameters --proxy-user and
--proxy-password into the wget parameters variable in your RDJ config
file. The default WGET_OPTS is -N, so if you are OK with
putting a
password in a config file, you could add this to your RDJ config:

WGET_OPTS=-N --proxy-user=foo --proxy-password=bar



Chris Thielen



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Re: User getting spammed to death

2006-02-14 Thread Thomas Cameron
On Tue, 2006-02-14 at 07:45 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It seems my email appears on one of those millions of emails cdroms

Egads, are those things still out there?  I used to get spammed with
offers for them.  Of course, I don't get spam any more (thanks, SA
team)!

Thomas



Updated Pump and Dump rules.

2006-02-14 Thread Doc Schneider

I just committed this ruleset to:

http://rulesemporium.com/rules/70_sare_stocks.cf

Enjoy.

-Doc (SA/SARE/URIBL/SURBL -- Ninja)


Doubling up of score on these Outlook rules?

2006-02-14 Thread Jason Haar
I just received a (valid) email notification from a Web service that got
a score of 7/5.

It contained the following scores

 2.5 FORGED_OUTLOOK_HTMLOutlook can't send HTML message only
 3.4 FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK Forged mail pretending to be from MS Outlook

That seems a bit of a double-whammy doesn't it? I mean if SA think it's
forged Outlook (the 3.4), then shouldn't the 2.5 be dropped? If that
isn't the case, then why not just give FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK a score of 5.9?

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Cheers

Jason Haar
Information Security Manager, Trimble Navigation Ltd.
Phone: +64 3 9635 377 Fax: +64 3 9635 417
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bayes question (sa-learn)

2006-02-14 Thread Philipp Snizek
Hi

The SpamAssassin Gateway receives emails from the internet, filters and
forwards them (both, Spam and Ham) to the internal MTA. Thus, my users have
their spam-quarantine inboxes on the internal MTA.
I'm thinking about implementing a function on the SpamAssassin Gateway to
have SA learn spam and ham mails feeded by my users either to the email
address [EMAIL PROTECTED] or to the address [EMAIL PROTECTED] These email
boxes of course would reside on the SA Gateway. 
However, I fear SA learns that headers coming from my internal MTA could be
spam and so causing false results on real spam. 

What experiences have you made or how have you solved this ?
(e.g. by setting up an IMAPd on the spamgateway?)

Thanks in advance

Best regards,
Philipp