Re: Fwd: [mailop] SORBS Closing.

2024-06-06 Thread J Doe

On 2024-06-05 04:44, Rob McEwen via users wrote:


 From "Frido Otten" mailto:fr...@0tten.nl>>


So is there anything that needs to be done to prevent false positives
happening right after the shutdown?



They said they were emptying the zone files, not actually "listing the
world" - so this shouldn't cause false any positives - but might cause
some false negatives, especially for anyone who was overly relying on
SORBS in their spam filtering? But yet - after some years - lists like
this - once they've been dead for many many years - do /sometimes/ "list
the world" as a final push to get others to stop using them - if that
even ever happens with SORBS? And if it ever did, I doubt that would
happen anytime soon.

But definately make sure that your spam filter is ONLY ever acting on
specific and valid SORBS return codes - and NOT treating ANY query being
resolved that isn't NXDOMAIN - as a listing. Anyone */misusing/* SORBS
in that way - might one day have a very bad day. But that's a general
truth for all DSNBLs - make sure your rules/setup for its usage only
treat it as a valid listing when specific return codes are returned,
that match that DNSBL's instructions, and thus */NOT/* taking action
just because /some /IP address was resolved by the query.

/(I think any built-in/default SpamAssassin rules for SORBS - already
does all of this correctly.)/

Rob McEwen, invaluement


Hi Rob and list,

Speaking as a small user of SORBS via SpamAssassin 4.0, I assume the
correct response to disable use of SORBS is to place the following in my
local.cf file:

dns_query_restriction deny sorbs.net

Is that correct and is there any additional portions of local.cf I need
to configure so that I am no longer consulting SORBS ?

Thanks,

- J



Re: Fwd: [mailop] SORBS Closing.

2024-06-05 Thread Rob McEwen via users

From "Frido Otten" 
So is there anything that needs to be done to prevent false positives 
happening right after the shutdown?




They said they were emptying the zone files, not actually "listing the 
world" - so this shouldn't cause false any positives - but might cause 
some false negatives, especially for anyone who was overly relying on 
SORBS in their spam filtering? But yet - after some years - lists like 
this - once they've been dead for many many years - do sometimes "list 
the world" as a final push to get others to stop using them - if that 
even ever happens with SORBS? And if it ever did, I doubt that would 
happen anytime soon.


But definately make sure that your spam filter is ONLY ever acting on 
specific and valid SORBS return codes - and NOT treating ANY query being 
resolved that isn't NXDOMAIN - as a listing. Anyone misusing SORBS in 
that way - might one day have a very bad day. But that's a general truth 
for all DSNBLs - make sure your rules/setup for its usage only treat it 
as a valid listing when specific return codes are returned, that match 
that DNSBL's instructions, and thus NOT taking action just because some 
IP address was resolved by the query.


(I think any built-in/default SpamAssassin rules for SORBS - already 
does all of this correctly.)


Rob McEwen, invaluement


Fwd: [mailop] SORBS Closing.

2024-06-05 Thread Frido Otten

A little heads-up from the MailOp mailinglist.

So is there anything that needs to be done to prevent false positives 
happening right after the shutdown?




 Doorgestuurd bericht 
Onderwerp:  [mailop] SORBS Closing.
Datum:  Wed, 05 Jun 2024 10:36:58 +1000
Van:Michelle Sullivan via mailop 
Antwoord-naar:  Michelle Sullivan 
Aan:mailop 



For those that haven't heard.  Proofpoint is retiring SORBS effective 
immediately(ish).


Zones will be emptied shortly and within a few weeks the SORBS domain 
will be parked on dedicated "decommissioning" servers.


I am being made redundant as part of the shutdown and my last day will 
be 30th June 2024.  I will be looking for new positions following that.


I would like to thank all the SORBS supporters over the years and 
Proofpoint for keeping it going for the community for the last 13 years.


Best regards,

Michelle Sullivan
SORBS.

--
Michelle Sullivan
http://www.mhix.org/

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