Re: A flood of new domains ?

2012-03-21 Thread Robert Schetterer
Am 21.03.2012 09:09, schrieb Per Jessen:
> Has anyone else noticed this stream of new spamvertized domains :
> 
> http://files.jessen.ch/list-of-new-domains
> 
> Typically accompanied by messages/subject lines such as:
> 
> You should check your status update and see if it changed
> This method of language learning is super easy.
> Please confirm that this update is accurate.
> Teach yourself a new foreign language in 10 days
> 
> Just being curious.  Yesterday I got another 10 different domains. 
> 
> 

Hi Per, nothing special like that, was noticed here

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MfG Robert Schetterer

Germany/Munich/Bavaria


Re: A flood of new domains ?

2012-03-22 Thread Per Jessen
Robert Schetterer wrote:

> Am 21.03.2012 09:09, schrieb Per Jessen:
>> Has anyone else noticed this stream of new spamvertized domains :
>> 
>> http://files.jessen.ch/list-of-new-domains
>> 
>> Typically accompanied by messages/subject lines such as:
>> 
>> You should check your status update and see if it changed
>> This method of language learning is super easy.
>> Please confirm that this update is accurate.
>> Teach yourself a new foreign language in 10 days
>> 
>> Just being curious.  Yesterday I got another 10 different domains.
>> 
>> 
> 
> Hi Per, nothing special like that, was noticed here
> 

Thanks Robert - amazing that nobody else seems to have noticed.  I've
added a rule to catch some of them, but yesterday I still got another
15 brand-new such domains. 
Perhaps of interest - all of these have valid DKIM signatures. 



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Per Jessen, Zürich (6.2°C)



Re: A flood of new domains ?

2012-03-22 Thread Robert Schetterer
Am 22.03.2012 08:23, schrieb Per Jessen:
> Robert Schetterer wrote:
> 
>> Am 21.03.2012 09:09, schrieb Per Jessen:
>>> Has anyone else noticed this stream of new spamvertized domains :
>>>
>>> http://files.jessen.ch/list-of-new-domains
>>>
>>> Typically accompanied by messages/subject lines such as:
>>>
>>> You should check your status update and see if it changed
>>> This method of language learning is super easy.
>>> Please confirm that this update is accurate.
>>> Teach yourself a new foreign language in 10 days
>>>
>>> Just being curious.  Yesterday I got another 10 different domains.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Hi Per, nothing special like that, was noticed here
>>
> 
> Thanks Robert - amazing that nobody else seems to have noticed.  I've
> added a rule to catch some of them, but yesterday I still got another
> 15 brand-new such domains. 

sorry i dont follow new spam domains, until there is no significant rise
but if grepped your domains yesterday on few servers with no result

spam often is very recipient related
i.e my beloved spambot armee relocated from china/us now to india/brasil
during last year , looks like thats trendy

> Perhaps of interest - all of these have valid DKIM signatures. 

thats not so suprising, they allready often have valid spf too
perhaps they wanna make sure to pass new dmarc mechs at google etc

> 
> 
> 

perhaps , they are preparing to a bigger spam flood later
and your servers are a test ballon target
that happend before ,but speculation

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MfG Robert Schetterer

Germany/Munich/Bavaria


Re: A flood of new domains ?

2012-03-22 Thread xTrade Assessory
Robert Schetterer wrote:
> spam often is very recipient related
> i.e my beloved spambot armee relocated from china/us now to india/brasil
> during last year , looks like thats trendy


regarding BR

we get most from afrinic 41.0 and pakistan 182.177, and of course our
own adsl blocks

if you like to prevent brazil origin you could block any adsl source
since this addresses are not supposed to run a valid MTA

if you're interested you could block connection from all rDNS IPs faking
to be an MTA and resolving to domain names which follow, each at least
several /16 if not /8 blocks

.virtua.com.br
.dsl.telesp.net.br
.gvt.net.br
.vivotorpedo.com.br
.user.veloxzone.com.br
.speedy.com.ar
.fibertel.com.ar
.adsl.terra.cl
.prima.com.ar


some small sub blocks may have been relocated to other services and are
still not updated because of sloppy maintenance of the telco personal
but this problem is probably not relevant for europe


Hans






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Re: A flood of new domains ?

2012-03-22 Thread Robert Schetterer
Am 22.03.2012 09:43, schrieb xTrade Assessory:
> Robert Schetterer wrote:
>> spam often is very recipient related
>> i.e my beloved spambot armee relocated from china/us now to india/brasil
>> during last year , looks like thats trendy
> 
> 
> regarding BR
> 
> we get most from afrinic 41.0 and pakistan 182.177, and of course our
> own adsl blocks
> 
> if you like to prevent brazil origin you could block any adsl source
> since this addresses are not supposed to run a valid MTA
> 
> if you're interested you could block connection from all rDNS IPs faking
> to be an MTA and resolving to domain names which follow, each at least
> several /16 if not /8 blocks
> 
> .virtua.com.br
> .dsl.telesp.net.br
> .gvt.net.br
> .vivotorpedo.com.br
> .user.veloxzone.com.br
> .speedy.com.ar
> .fibertel.com.ar
> .adsl.terra.cl
> .prima.com.ar
> 
> 
> some small sub blocks may have been relocated to other services and are
> still not updated because of sloppy maintenance of the telco personal
> but this problem is probably not relevant for europe
> 
> 
> Hans
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

i ve done such for years, but i now have better mechs implemted before
i.e postscreen, ( i dont like global rejects very much i.e banning geo
ip blocks and/or domains ,after all, sometimes they needed )

my new implemented mech cant be used on every system
its something equal like fail2ban does
( banning with firewall rules for some time )
but fail2ban wasnt quick enough for my bot bombards
and i was tired of tons of logging, so i switched to something
direct syslog related in combi with fail2ban and postscreen
so now the over years staying bot problem went nearly null
i will have some blog of this ,near future, stay tuned

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MfG Robert Schetterer

Germany/Munich/Bavaria


Re: A flood of new domains ?

2012-03-22 Thread Per Jessen
Robert Schetterer wrote:

> Am 22.03.2012 08:23, schrieb Per Jessen:
>> Robert Schetterer wrote:
>> 
>>> Am 21.03.2012 09:09, schrieb Per Jessen:
 Has anyone else noticed this stream of new spamvertized domains :

 http://files.jessen.ch/list-of-new-domains

 Typically accompanied by messages/subject lines such as:

 You should check your status update and see if it changed
 This method of language learning is super easy.
 Please confirm that this update is accurate.
 Teach yourself a new foreign language in 10 days

 Just being curious.  Yesterday I got another 10 different domains.


>>>
>>> Hi Per, nothing special like that, was noticed here
>>>
>> 
>> Thanks Robert - amazing that nobody else seems to have noticed.  I've
>> added a rule to catch some of them, but yesterday I still got another
>> 15 brand-new such domains.
> 
> sorry i dont follow new spam domains, until there is no significant
> rise but if grepped your domains yesterday on few servers with no
> result

I don't normally follow them either, but these are coming through to one
of my personal addresses.  It's also the rate of change that is
interesting - I very rarely see two emails with the same link. 



-- 
Per Jessen, Zürich (8.7°C)



Re: A flood of new domains ?

2012-03-22 Thread Robert Schetterer
Am 22.03.2012 10:19, schrieb Per Jessen:
> Robert Schetterer wrote:
> 
>> Am 22.03.2012 08:23, schrieb Per Jessen:
>>> Robert Schetterer wrote:
>>>
 Am 21.03.2012 09:09, schrieb Per Jessen:
> Has anyone else noticed this stream of new spamvertized domains :
>
> http://files.jessen.ch/list-of-new-domains
>
> Typically accompanied by messages/subject lines such as:
>
> You should check your status update and see if it changed
> This method of language learning is super easy.
> Please confirm that this update is accurate.
> Teach yourself a new foreign language in 10 days
>
> Just being curious.  Yesterday I got another 10 different domains.
>
>

 Hi Per, nothing special like that, was noticed here

>>>
>>> Thanks Robert - amazing that nobody else seems to have noticed.  I've
>>> added a rule to catch some of them, but yesterday I still got another
>>> 15 brand-new such domains.
>>
>> sorry i dont follow new spam domains, until there is no significant
>> rise but if grepped your domains yesterday on few servers with no
>> result
> 
> I don't normally follow them either, but these are coming through to one
> of my personal addresses. 

ok , i understand , so you cant miss them *g

 It's also the rate of change that is
> interesting - I very rarely see two emails with the same link. 
> 

one more indicate for a bright planned campaign
what are they try to push...?
> 
> 


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Best Regards

MfG Robert Schetterer

Germany/Munich/Bavaria


Re: A flood of new domains ?

2012-03-22 Thread xTrade Assessory
Robert Schetterer wrote:
> one more indicate for a bright planned campaign
> what are they try to push...?


I guess that is easy and simple ... the more the merrier

they are smart but we got smarter too and now it is getting harder and
harder for "them" so they switch identification as fast as possible in
order to get still to the endpoint



Hans


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Re: A flood of new domains ?

2012-03-22 Thread Axb

On 03/22/2012 10:19 AM, Per Jessen wrote:

Robert Schetterer wrote:


Am 22.03.2012 08:23, schrieb Per Jessen:

Robert Schetterer wrote:


Am 21.03.2012 09:09, schrieb Per Jessen:

Has anyone else noticed this stream of new spamvertized domains :

http://files.jessen.ch/list-of-new-domains

Typically accompanied by messages/subject lines such as:

You should check your status update and see if it changed
This method of language learning is super easy.
Please confirm that this update is accurate.
Teach yourself a new foreign language in 10 days

Just being curious.  Yesterday I got another 10 different domains.




Hi Per, nothing special like that, was noticed here



Thanks Robert - amazing that nobody else seems to have noticed.  I've
added a rule to catch some of them, but yesterday I still got another
15 brand-new such domains.


sorry i dont follow new spam domains, until there is no significant
rise but if grepped your domains yesterday on few servers with no
result


I don't normally follow them either, but these are coming through to one
of my personal addresses.  It's also the rate of change that is
interesting - I very rarely see two emails with the same link.


Aren't the URIs being detected by SBL/DBL/SURBL/URIBL ?



Re: A flood of new domains ?

2012-03-22 Thread Robert Schetterer
Am 22.03.2012 10:30, schrieb xTrade Assessory:
> Robert Schetterer wrote:
>> one more indicate for a bright planned campaign
>> what are they try to push...?
> 
> 
> I guess that is easy and simple ... the more the merrier
> 
> they are smart but we got smarter too and now it is getting harder and
> harder for "them" so they switch identification as fast as possible in
> order to get still to the endpoint
> 
> 
> 
> Hans
> 
> 

for small tests it seems they all use the same registrar
Registrar: MONIKER
however no idea what to do with this info

i guess they would identify themselfes not as spammer
more then a urgent product news mail pusher *g
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MfG Robert Schetterer

Germany/Munich/Bavaria


Re: A flood of new domains ?

2012-03-22 Thread Robert Schetterer
Am 22.03.2012 10:33, schrieb Axb:
> On 03/22/2012 10:19 AM, Per Jessen wrote:
>> Robert Schetterer wrote:
>>
>>> Am 22.03.2012 08:23, schrieb Per Jessen:
 Robert Schetterer wrote:

> Am 21.03.2012 09:09, schrieb Per Jessen:
>> Has anyone else noticed this stream of new spamvertized domains :
>>
>> http://files.jessen.ch/list-of-new-domains
>>
>> Typically accompanied by messages/subject lines such as:
>>
>> You should check your status update and see if it changed
>> This method of language learning is super easy.
>> Please confirm that this update is accurate.
>> Teach yourself a new foreign language in 10 days
>>
>> Just being curious.  Yesterday I got another 10 different domains.
>>
>>
>
> Hi Per, nothing special like that, was noticed here
>

 Thanks Robert - amazing that nobody else seems to have noticed.  I've
 added a rule to catch some of them, but yesterday I still got another
 15 brand-new such domains.
>>>
>>> sorry i dont follow new spam domains, until there is no significant
>>> rise but if grepped your domains yesterday on few servers with no
>>> result
>>
>> I don't normally follow them either, but these are coming through to one
>> of my personal addresses.  It's also the rate of change that is
>> interesting - I very rarely see two emails with the same link.
> 
> Aren't the URIs being detected by SBL/DBL/SURBL/URIBL ?
> 

domain name related rbls/lists are mostly not making very much sense
also tagging by "new domains" isnt very helpfull

that all may lead to too much false positives

but policies like that must be decided by the postmaster
related to his local needs
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Best Regards

MfG Robert Schetterer

Germany/Munich/Bavaria


Re: A flood of new domains ?

2012-03-22 Thread Robert Schetterer
Am 22.03.2012 10:40, schrieb Robert Schetterer:
> Am 22.03.2012 10:33, schrieb Axb:
>> On 03/22/2012 10:19 AM, Per Jessen wrote:
>>> Robert Schetterer wrote:
>>>
 Am 22.03.2012 08:23, schrieb Per Jessen:
> Robert Schetterer wrote:
>
>> Am 21.03.2012 09:09, schrieb Per Jessen:
>>> Has anyone else noticed this stream of new spamvertized domains :
>>>
>>> http://files.jessen.ch/list-of-new-domains
>>>
>>> Typically accompanied by messages/subject lines such as:
>>>
>>> You should check your status update and see if it changed
>>> This method of language learning is super easy.
>>> Please confirm that this update is accurate.
>>> Teach yourself a new foreign language in 10 days
>>>
>>> Just being curious.  Yesterday I got another 10 different domains.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Hi Per, nothing special like that, was noticed here
>>
>
> Thanks Robert - amazing that nobody else seems to have noticed.  I've
> added a rule to catch some of them, but yesterday I still got another
> 15 brand-new such domains.

 sorry i dont follow new spam domains, until there is no significant
 rise but if grepped your domains yesterday on few servers with no
 result
>>>
>>> I don't normally follow them either, but these are coming through to one
>>> of my personal addresses.  It's also the rate of change that is
>>> interesting - I very rarely see two emails with the same link.
>>
>> Aren't the URIs being detected by SBL/DBL/SURBL/URIBL ?
>>
> 
> domain name related rbls/lists are mostly not making very much sense
> also tagging by "new domains" isnt very helpfull
> 
> that all may lead to too much false positives
> 
> but policies like that must be decided by the postmaster
> related to his local needs

not tested but this looks as good choice
for tagging registrars

http://anonwhois.org/usage.html

in pers domains
Moniker was the matching one

http://anonwhois.org/99_anonwhois.cf

...
urirhssub   ANONWHOIS_11list.anonwhois.net. A   127.0.0.11
bodyANONWHOIS_11eval:check_uridnsbl('ANONWHOIS_11')
describeANONWHOIS_11Domain protected by Moniker Privacy Protection
tflags  ANONWHOIS_11net
score   ANONWHOIS_110.001
.


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MfG Robert Schetterer

Germany/Munich/Bavaria


Re: A flood of new domains ?

2012-03-22 Thread Per Jessen
Axb wrote:

> On 03/22/2012 10:19 AM, Per Jessen wrote:
>> Robert Schetterer wrote:
>>
>>> Am 22.03.2012 08:23, schrieb Per Jessen:
 Robert Schetterer wrote:

> Am 21.03.2012 09:09, schrieb Per Jessen:
>> Has anyone else noticed this stream of new spamvertized domains :
>>
>> http://files.jessen.ch/list-of-new-domains
>>
>> Typically accompanied by messages/subject lines such as:
>>
>> You should check your status update and see if it changed
>> This method of language learning is super easy.
>> Please confirm that this update is accurate.
>> Teach yourself a new foreign language in 10 days
>>
>> Just being curious.  Yesterday I got another 10 different
>> domains.
>>
>>
>
> Hi Per, nothing special like that, was noticed here
>

 Thanks Robert - amazing that nobody else seems to have noticed. 
 I've added a rule to catch some of them, but yesterday I still got
 another 15 brand-new such domains.
>>>
>>> sorry i dont follow new spam domains, until there is no significant
>>> rise but if grepped your domains yesterday on few servers with no
>>> result
>>
>> I don't normally follow them either, but these are coming through to
>> one
>> of my personal addresses.  It's also the rate of change that is
>> interesting - I very rarely see two emails with the same link.
> 
> Aren't the URIs being detected by SBL/DBL/SURBL/URIBL ?

Some are, but most are not.  The new ones I get to see were not. 



-- 
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Re: A flood of new domains ?

2012-03-23 Thread Per Jessen
Robert Schetterer wrote:

> Am 22.03.2012 10:19, schrieb Per Jessen:
>  It's also the rate of change that is
>> interesting - I very rarely see two emails with the same link.
>> 
> 
> one more indicate for a bright planned campaign
> what are they try to push...?

It varies - one link I've just clicked took me to a page that asked me
to send an SMS to 40800 - cost apparently CHF10.  The way there was
very convoluted:  (this is snipped from my proxy log):

http://files.jessen.ch/proxy.log


-- 
Per Jessen, Zürich (14.6°C)



Re: A flood of new domains ?

2012-03-23 Thread Robert Schetterer
Am 23.03.2012 09:02, schrieb Per Jessen:
> Robert Schetterer wrote:
> 
>> Am 22.03.2012 10:19, schrieb Per Jessen:
>>  It's also the rate of change that is
>>> interesting - I very rarely see two emails with the same link.
>>>
>>
>> one more indicate for a bright planned campaign
>> what are they try to push...?
> 
> It varies - one link I've just clicked took me to a page that asked me
> to send an SMS to 40800 - cost apparently CHF10.  The way there was
> very convoluted:  (this is snipped from my proxy log):
> 
> http://files.jessen.ch/proxy.log
> 
> 

looks like some trojan bank pish try, maybe attack to smartphones, via
hacked sites over proxy etc
anyway looks like they have a greater plan registering so much domains

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MfG Robert Schetterer

Germany/Munich/Bavaria


Re: A flood of new domains ?

2012-03-23 Thread Benny Pedersen

Den 2012-03-23 09:02, Per Jessen skrev:


http://files.jessen.ch/proxy.log


log mime type ?

if it ends in txt, mime will let me see it as text without download 
into my c drive :)