Re: Help with a rule

2006-02-02 Thread Yusuf Ahmed
makes sense. thanks for the help guys (including those whose replies 
dont appear here)


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Matthew.van.Eerde wrote:
 


Yusuf Ahmed wrote:
   


SCENARIO: I am the owner of "sample.com.au". I have email accounts
named "info" and "joeblow", therefore their email addresses would be
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PROBLEM: I am getting tonnes of spam coming through to random email
prefixes @sample.com.au. I would like to block all email sent to
@sample.com.au except for the email addresses specified above.
 

Hmmm... you should probably also accept [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
See section 4.5.1 of RFC 2821. 
http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2821.html


Also, you should probably REJECT mail to invalid addresses at RCPT TO
time.  This will allow people who are legitimately trying to send you
mail at a mistyped address to receive an undeliverable report, rather
than assuming the message went through.   
   



Also also, what about BCC?  SpamAssassin will not see the address, and 
therefore cannot add a score based on the address.

Or what about emails
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bcc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

SpamAssassin will only analyze the email once, but you'll want to accept it for 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and reject it for [EMAIL PROTECTED] which you can't do in 
SMTP after seeing the DATA anyway.

 



RE: Help with a rule

2006-02-02 Thread Matthew.van.Eerde
Matthew.van.Eerde wrote:
> Yusuf Ahmed wrote:
>> SCENARIO: I am the owner of "sample.com.au". I have email accounts
>> named "info" and "joeblow", therefore their email addresses would be
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> PROBLEM: I am getting tonnes of spam coming through to random email
>> prefixes @sample.com.au. I would like to block all email sent to
>> @sample.com.au except for the email addresses specified above.
> 
> Hmmm... you should probably also accept [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> See section 4.5.1 of RFC 2821. 
> http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2821.html
> 
> Also, you should probably REJECT mail to invalid addresses at RCPT TO
> time.  This will allow people who are legitimately trying to send you
> mail at a mistyped address to receive an undeliverable report, rather
> than assuming the message went through.   

Also also, what about BCC?  SpamAssassin will not see the address, and 
therefore cannot add a score based on the address.

Or what about emails
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bcc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

SpamAssassin will only analyze the email once, but you'll want to accept it for 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and reject it for [EMAIL PROTECTED] which you can't do in 
SMTP after seeing the DATA anyway.

-- 
Matthew.van.Eerde (at) hbinc.com   805.964.4554 x902
Hispanic Business Inc./HireDiversity.com   Software Engineer


Re: Help with a rule

2006-02-02 Thread Evan Platt
-Original Message-
From: Yusuf Ahmed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 11:18:18 +1100
Subject: Re: Help with a rule

> Yes thats what I meant - I'll add x amount of points to the rule, but 
> what would be a good way to write the rule?
> 
> Postfix and MailScanner.

Why bother making a rule? Unless you then add a procmail rule to delete
the mail above a certain score, you'll still see it. It would be better
done in your postfix. I have postfix but I used postfixEnabler (Mac GUI)
to configure postfix. At least for me, it's in my aliases file. If the
address isn't in my aliases file, it doesn't get delivered. I think
there's a option in main.cf or master.cf to tell it to reject all other
mail, but I can't tell you offhand.




RE: Help with a rule

2006-02-02 Thread Matthew.van.Eerde
Yusuf Ahmed wrote:
> SCENARIO: I am the owner of "sample.com.au". I have email accounts
> named "info" and "joeblow", therefore their email addresses would be
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> PROBLEM: I am getting tonnes of spam coming through to random email
> prefixes @sample.com.au. I would like to block all email sent to
> @sample.com.au except for the email addresses specified above.

Hmmm... you should probably also accept [EMAIL PROTECTED]  See section 4.5.1 of 
RFC 2821.
http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2821.html

Also, you should probably REJECT mail to invalid addresses at RCPT TO time.  
This will allow people who are legitimately trying to send you mail at a 
mistyped address to receive an undeliverable report, rather than assuming the 
message went through.

-- 
Matthew.van.Eerde (at) hbinc.com   805.964.4554 x902
Hispanic Business Inc./HireDiversity.com   Software Engineer


Re: Help with a rule

2006-02-02 Thread Yusuf Ahmed
Yes thats what I meant - I'll add x amount of points to the rule, but 
what would be a good way to write the rule?


Postfix and MailScanner.

Evan Platt wrote:


-Original Message-
From: Yusuf Ahmed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 11:09:43 +1100
Subject: Help with a rule


 


Wondering if someone can give me a hand writing a rule. I'm kind of new
to this and so running into a few problems.

SCENARIO: I am the owner of "sample.com.au". I have email accounts
named 
"info" and "joeblow", therefore their email addresses would be 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PROBLEM: I am getting tonnes of spam coming through to random email 
prefixes @sample.com.au. I would like to block all email sent to 
@sample.com.au except for the email addresses specified above.


How would I write a rule for this? I'm assuming Meta rules are what I
am 
looking for but need a bit more help.
   



SpamAssassin cannot *BLOCK* anything. You can make a rule to add say 1000
points, but a better solution would be to properly configure your MTA to
reject mail to those addresses. (you didn't mention what MTA you use).


 



Re: Help with a rule

2006-02-02 Thread Bill Landry
- Original Message - 
From: "Yusuf Ahmed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



Hi,

Wondering if someone can give me a hand writing a rule. I'm kind of new to 
this and so running into a few problems.


SCENARIO: I am the owner of "sample.com.au". I have email accounts named 
"info" and "joeblow", therefore their email addresses would be 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PROBLEM: I am getting tonnes of spam coming through to random email 
prefixes @sample.com.au. I would like to block all email sent to 
@sample.com.au except for the email addresses specified above.


How would I write a rule for this? I'm assuming Meta rules are what I am 
looking for but need a bit more help.


You would be much better off doing this through your MTA rather than SA. 
You should be rejecting messages at your MTA that are addressed to 
non-existent accounts.


Bill 



Re: Help with a rule

2006-02-02 Thread Evan Platt
-Original Message-
From: Yusuf Ahmed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 11:09:43 +1100
Subject: Help with a rule


> Wondering if someone can give me a hand writing a rule. I'm kind of new
> to this and so running into a few problems.
> 
> SCENARIO: I am the owner of "sample.com.au". I have email accounts
> named 
> "info" and "joeblow", therefore their email addresses would be 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> PROBLEM: I am getting tonnes of spam coming through to random email 
> prefixes @sample.com.au. I would like to block all email sent to 
> @sample.com.au except for the email addresses specified above.
> 
> How would I write a rule for this? I'm assuming Meta rules are what I
> am 
> looking for but need a bit more help.

SpamAssassin cannot *BLOCK* anything. You can make a rule to add say 1000
points, but a better solution would be to properly configure your MTA to
reject mail to those addresses. (you didn't mention what MTA you use).