RE: Weird Problem w/ Rule2XSBody + Sought Rule

2009-07-02 Thread Sean Cardus
  An re2c bug, presumably? Is anyone having problems without using sa-
  compile?
 
 If I removed the compiled rule sets, everything works fine again...

I've noticed that sa-update pulled in a new set of Sought rules this morning 
(version 320790507).  I've run sa-compile over them again, re-tried the mail 
that previously failed and I'm glad to say I'm no longer seeing the memory/loop 
problem.

Thanks,
Sean



Re: Weird Problem w/ Rule2XSBody + Sought Rule

2009-07-02 Thread Justin Mason
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 15:28, Sean Cardusscar...@zebrahosts.net wrote:
  An re2c bug, presumably? Is anyone having problems without using sa-
  compile?

 If I removed the compiled rule sets, everything works fine again...

 I've noticed that sa-update pulled in a new set of Sought rules this morning 
 (version 320790507).  I've run sa-compile over them again, re-tried the mail 
 that previously failed and I'm glad to say I'm no longer seeing the 
 memory/loop problem.

I stopped it publishing rules containing that pattern.

We could still do with reproducing the bug though ;)

--j.


Re: Weird Problem w/ Rule2XSBody + Sought Rule

2009-07-01 Thread Justin Mason
hey Matt -- what version of re2c is installed?

On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 18:43, Matt Elsonmel...@fastmail.net wrote:
 Hey all,

 I stumbled upon an odd issue the other day that I'm having trouble
 tracking down.  Namely, a certain rule in the sought rule set, when
 compiled for use with Rule2XSBody is causing the processing of *some*
 emails to, well, never really end.  Piping the mail through spamassassin
 or into spamd just results in the process hanging and the memory usage
 going higher and higher (2+ gigs, easily) and seemingly ignoring any
 sort of timeouts.  The process finally gets killed only when the OS
 notices it's out of memory and starts killing processes or when I'm able
 to sneak in and kill -9 it.  There's nothing in the debug of SA whatsoever.

 I was wondering if anyone else has seen this or if it's some quirk of my
 environment. I admit that I'm no expert in this sort of thing, but
 (hopefully) some useful information is below the dotted line.

 -
 This happened on four of my machines which have the following configuration:


 RHEL5.2 / SA 3.2.5  / Perl 5.8.8 / gcc 4.1.2
 RHEl5.2 / SA 3.2.4  / Perl 5.8.8 / gcc 4.1.2
 RHELAS 4 (Update 6) / SA 3.2.4 / Perl 5.8.5 / gcc 3.4.6
 RHELAS 4 (Update 6) / SA 3.2.4 / Perl 5.8.5 / gcc 3.4.6


 The SA is built from source off the main website, and the perl is just
 stock redhat.

 If I copy down all my rules/configuration to my Debian desktop using its
 packaging, the problem doesn't emerge (sa 3.2.5/perl 5.10.0/gcc 4.3.3 there)

 Removing the compiled rulesets works around the issue fairly handily.
 I'm stubborn though, so after I did so, I dug around a bit and it seems
 one specific body rule was causing the issue, namely:

 body __SEEK_1R0JFS  /\x{ff}\x{fe} \x{00} \x{00} \x{00}
 \x{00}\x{00}m\x{00}e\x{00}t\x{00}a\x{00}
 \x{00}h\x{00}t\x{00}t\x{00}p\x{00}-\x{00}e\x{00}q\x{00}u\x{00}i\x{00}v\x{00}=\x{00}\'\x{00}R\x{00}e\x{00}f\x{00}r\x{00}e\x{00}s\x{00}h\x{00}\'\x{00}
 \x{00}c\x{00}o\x{00}n\x{00}t\x{00}e\x{00}n\x{00}t\x{00}=\x{00}\'\x{00}0\x{00};\x{00}
 \x{00}u\x{00}r\x{00}l\x{00}=\x{00}h\x{00}t\x{00}t\x{00}p\x{00}:\x{00}\/\x{00}\/\x{00}.\x{00}.\x{00}.\x{00}.\x{00}.\x{00}.\x{00}.\x{00}.\x{00}.\x{00}.\x{00}.\x{00}.\x{00}.\x{00}.\x{00}.\x{00}.\x{00}.\x{00}.\x{00}/

 Once I comment out the rule, compiled rulesets work fine again.  I don't
 know enough to know what the heck that regex even is, or why it would be
 causing problems (I basically found which rule was causing a problem by
 commenting out anything that looked scary to me, running sa-compile, and
 testing to see if I the hanging behavior went away)

 I'm not sure the best way to post up a sample of the mail that was
 choking the system without it getting mangled (though I'll gladly post
 it if someone can show me where), but fooling around, it seemed to come
 down to the message containing this as one of its parts:


 -
 Content-Type: text/html;
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

 (Any content could go here)
 =00
 -

 Removing =00 OR Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable causes the
 mail to pass through without a problem.  It seems to only be both
 combined that resulted in the behavior I saw.

 Anyhoo, any thoughts?  This a legitimate bug or something wrong with my
 setup?

 Matt




RE: Weird Problem w/ Rule2XSBody + Sought Rule

2009-07-01 Thread Sean Cardus
  I stumbled upon an odd issue the other day that I'm having trouble
  tracking down.  Namely, a certain rule in the sought rule set, when
  compiled for use with Rule2XSBody is causing the processing of *some*
  emails to, well, never really end.  Piping the mail through
  spamassassin or into spamd just results in the process hanging
  and the memory usage
  going higher and higher (2+ gigs, easily) and seemingly ignoring any
  sort of timeouts.  The process finally gets killed only when the OS
  notices it's out of memory and starts killing processes or when I'm
  able to sneak in and kill -9 it.  There's nothing in the debug of SA
  whatsoever.

I've been seeing exactly the same behaviour off and on since Friday last week.  
I'd not yet managed to narrow it down to a specific rule or email, but your 
example triggers it every time on my i386 boxes.

 hey Matt -- what version of re2c is installed?

I'm currently using re2c v0.12.1 on both i386 and x64.  However, I can only 
reproduce the problem on i386, spamd processes  returns the email immediately 
on x64.

Sean






Re: Weird Problem w/ Rule2XSBody + Sought Rule

2009-07-01 Thread Matthew Elson

Justin Mason wrote:

hey Matt -- what version of re2c is installed?


Knew I forgot something :P.

re2c 0.13.2 was what was on all of the machines that had the issue  - 
when I ran into the issue, the first thing I did was upgrade it to 
0.13.5 on one of them; the problem still occurred.  The Debian box that 
seems to handle things fine is running 0.13.5.


Everywhere I've tested is x86, 32-bit - even the one where I can't seem 
to trigger the problem.


Dunno if it helps, but in some cases the email piped through 
spamassassin actually gives me a segmentation fault.  I've not traced 
down why, exactly, but I got the segfault initially until I noticed I 
had my SARE rulesets in both /etc/mail/spamassassin/ *AND* in 
/var/lib/spamassassin/3.002004.  Once I removed the rulesets from 
/etc/mail/spamassassin/, it went to the never-ending process behavior I 
first mentioned.


Matt


Re: Weird Problem w/ Rule2XSBody + Sought Rule

2009-07-01 Thread Steve Freegard
Matthew Elson wrote:
 Justin Mason wrote:
 hey Matt -- what version of re2c is installed?
 
 Knew I forgot something :P.
 
 re2c 0.13.2 was what was on all of the machines that had the issue  -
 when I ran into the issue, the first thing I did was upgrade it to
 0.13.5 on one of them; the problem still occurred.  The Debian box that
 seems to handle things fine is running 0.13.5.
 
 Everywhere I've tested is x86, 32-bit - even the one where I can't seem
 to trigger the problem.
 
 Dunno if it helps, but in some cases the email piped through
 spamassassin actually gives me a segmentation fault.  I've not traced
 down why, exactly, but I got the segfault initially until I noticed I
 had my SARE rulesets in both /etc/mail/spamassassin/ *AND* in
 /var/lib/spamassassin/3.002004.  Once I removed the rulesets from
 /etc/mail/spamassassin/, it went to the never-ending process behavior I
 first mentioned.
 

IIRC - I had this problem on a couple of machines (not using the SOUGHT
rules though); I installed 3.3.0 from SVN and that cured the issue.

Regards,
Steve.


RE: Weird Problem w/ Rule2XSBody + Sought Rule

2009-07-01 Thread Sean Cardus
 I've been seeing exactly the same behaviour off and on since Friday
 last week.  I'd not yet managed to narrow it down to a specific rule or
 email, but your example triggers it every time on my i386 boxes.

Here's a copy of an email that I've modified with the extra section which I'm 
able to reproduce the problem with...

http://pastebin.com/m2bd8546b

Sean



Re: Weird Problem w/ Rule2XSBody + Sought Rule

2009-07-01 Thread Adam Stephens

Matt Elson wrote:

I dug around a bit and it seems
one specific body rule was causing the issue, namely:

body __SEEK_1R0JFS  /\x{ff}\x{fe} \x{00} \x{00} \x{00}
\x{00}\x{00}m\x{00}e\x{00}t\x{00}a\x{00}
\x{00}h\x{00}t\x{00}t\x{00}p\x{00}-\x{00}e\x{00}q\x{00}u\x{00}i\x{00}v\x{00}=\x{00}\'\x{00}R\x{00}e\x{00}f\x{00}r\x{00}e\x{00}s\x{00}h\x{00}\'\x{00}
\x{00}c\x{00}o\x{00}n\x{00}t\x{00}e\x{00}n\x{00}t\x{00}=\x{00}\'\x{00}0\x{00};\x{00}
\x{00}u\x{00}r\x{00}l\x{00}=\x{00}h\x{00}t\x{00}t\x{00}p\x{00}:\x{00}\/\x{00}\/\x{00}.\x{00}.\x{00}.\x{00}.\x{00}.\x{00}.\x{00}.\x{00}.\x{00}.\x{00}.\x{00}.\x{00}.\x{00}.\x{00}.\x{00}.\x{00}.\x{00}.\x{00}.\x{00}/


I'm not sure the best way to post up a sample of the mail that was
choking the system without it getting mangled (though I'll gladly post
it if someone can show me where), but fooling around, it seemed to come
down to the message containing this as one of its parts:


-
Content-Type: text/html;
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

(Any content could go here)
=00
-
  


I've been seeing frequent segfaults and coredumps on my systems since 
yesterday morning (SPARC, Solaris 9, SA 3.2.5, perl 5.8.8, re2c was 
0.12.0, now 0.13.5) . I can reproduce it with your example, and fix it 
by removing the __SEEK_1R0JFS rule.


An re2c bug, presumably? Is anyone having problems without using sa-compile?

Adam.

--

Adam Stephens
Network Specialist - Email  DNS
adam.steph...@bristol.ac.uk



RE: Weird Problem w/ Rule2XSBody + Sought Rule

2009-07-01 Thread Sean Cardus
 An re2c bug, presumably? Is anyone having problems without using sa-
 compile?

If I removed the compiled rule sets, everything works fine again...

Sean



Re: Weird Problem w/ Rule2XSBody + Sought Rule

2009-07-01 Thread Noah Meyerhans
On Wed, Jul 01, 2009 at 01:31:25PM +0100, Sean Cardus wrote:
  An re2c bug, presumably? Is anyone having problems without using sa-
  compile?
 
 If I removed the compiled rule sets, everything works fine again...

I was just about to report a similar problem when I came across this
thread.

I'm using the sought rules, SARE, and updates.spamassassin.org on a 64
bit Debian etch system with the spamassassin 3.2.4 packages from
backports.org.  (I'm the Debian SA maintainer.)  We update our rulesets
nightly using sa-update.  The updates that we pulled in at Mon Jun 29
10:27:30 UTC 2009 introduced periodic segfaults.  I suspect that the
problem is being triggered in the sought rules, as their removal made
the segfaults go away.  Beyond that I haven't narrowed things down any
further.

I have a couple of 32 bit etch systems running an otherwise identical
setup that have not seen any segfaults, though their mail volume is
quite a bit lighter.

We're compiling our rules with re2c 0.9.12, FWIW.

noah



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Re: Weird Problem w/ Rule2XSBody + Sought Rule

2009-07-01 Thread McDonald, Dan
On Wed, 2009-07-01 at 13:20 +0100, Adam Stephens wrote:
 __SEEK_1R0JFS

I can confirm that removing that test and recompiling eliminates my
segfaults.  running re2c 0.12.0


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Re: Weird Problem w/ Rule2XSBody + Sought Rule

2009-07-01 Thread Don Drake
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 6:37 AM, Sean Cardus scar...@zebrahosts.net wrote:

  I've been seeing exactly the same behaviour off and on since Friday
  last week.  I'd not yet managed to narrow it down to a specific rule or
  email, but your example triggers it every time on my i386 boxes.

 Here's a copy of an email that I've modified with the extra section which
 I'm able to reproduce the problem with...

 http://pastebin.com/m2bd8546b

 Sean


I am having the same problem, started a few days ago.  I have since disabled
sought rules and my segmentation faults have stopped.  The above pastebin
segfaults for me, and I have other examples if anyone wants them.

I am running CentOS 5.2 x86_64, SA 3.2.5, perl 5.8.8 and re2c 0.13.5.

Besides disabling the rule, is there a real fix for this?

-Don

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