SA Webmail Portal

2006-10-17 Thread Billy Huddleston



Anyone developed a webmailportal for Spamassassin? 
What I mean by this is.. Some sort of webmail which only has a spam folder so 
people can see their spam.. anything else passes on through.. I'm running 
SA in two manners.. One of which is going directly to my pop server and tags all 
the spam.. and my pop server files stuff away accordingly.. but, I'm also 
providing spam tagging services for other customers.. whom are now requesting 
that they not get the spam, but have a webmailportal page similar to 
Postini's (also a nice place to adjust their scores)

Thanks, Billy




Re: SA Webmail Portal

2006-10-17 Thread Jo Rhett

Billy Huddleston wrote:
Anyone developed a webmail portal for Spamassassin?  What I mean by this 
is.. Some sort of webmail which only has a spam folder so people can see 
their spam.. anything else passes on through..  I'm running SA in two 
manners.. One of which is going directly to my pop server and tags all 
the spam.. and my pop server files stuff away accordingly.. but, I'm 
also providing spam tagging services for other customers.. whom are now 
requesting that they not get the spam, but have a webmail portal page 
similar to Postini's  (also a nice place to adjust their scores)


Sure.  Use the ability to tag to a plussed address, then virtusertable 
the plussed address to a local cyrus server with Squirrelmail, and route 
the normal mail onward.  This should only take about an hour to set up.


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Network/Software Engineer
Net Consonance


Re: SA Webmail Portal

2006-10-17 Thread Chris St. Pierre
On Tue, 17 Oct 2006, Jo Rhett wrote:

 Billy Huddleston wrote:
 Anyone developed a webmail portal for Spamassassin?

 Sure.  Use the ability to tag to a plussed address, then virtusertable the
 plussed address to a local cyrus server with Squirrelmail, and route the 
 normal
 mail onward.  This should only take about an hour to set up.

We do something similar -- we set some headers with SA, and then use
Sieve filters to put them into folders, delete entirely, etc.  When we
create a new account users get some default filters, which they can
then manage using the Ingo component of Horde.

This works for us, since we offer a full webmail/groupware suite as
well, but Jo's suggestion is more lightweight and would probably be
better if you're just looking for a spam quarantine interface.

Remember, SA doesn't filter, file, deliver, or anything else.  You can
use it to munge the message, but anything else is up to other software
-- in this case, probably your IMAP server.

Chris St. Pierre
Unix Systems Administrator
Nebraska Wesleyan University




Re: SA Webmail Portal

2006-10-17 Thread Jo Rhett

Chris St. Pierre wrote:

Remember, SA doesn't filter, file, deliver, or anything else.  You can
use it to munge the message, but anything else is up to other software
-- in this case, probably your IMAP server.


Not entirely true.   These options change the delivery address.  If you 
use these and also virtusertable, you could deliver tagged mail to a 
different location.


## ADDING ADDRESS EXTENSIONS TO RECIPIENTS - 'plus addressing'
# $recipient_delimiter = undef;
# $replace_existing_extension = 1;
# $addr_extension_virus  = undef;
# $addr_extension_banned = undef;
# $addr_extension_spam   = undef;
# $addr_extension_bad_header = undef;
# @addr_extension_virus_maps  = (\$addr_extension_virus);
# @addr_extension_banned_maps = (\$addr_extension_banned);
# @addr_extension_spam_maps   = (\$addr_extension_spam);
# @addr_extension_bad_header_maps = (\$addr_extension_bad_header);




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Network/Software Engineer
Net Consonance


Re: SA Webmail Portal

2006-10-17 Thread Billy Huddleston
Okay, so next question.. might be totally out of topic for SA.. How can I 
make the front-end mail server know if a email exists on the backend 
server.. Example.. I use qmail on my front-end..  I don't like receiving 
tons of invalid emails just to turn around and attempt to deliver bounces 
that could possibly be going to honeypots or servers that don't take mail 
etc..  I solved this on my own domain by using a smtp vrfy script that 
checks against my backend mail server.. but since the other domains don't 
have mailboxes on my back-end server and is only setup to relay their mail, 
it blindly accepts EVERYTHING for them..  any suggestions?


Thanks, Billy

- Original Message - 
From: Jo Rhett [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Chris St. Pierre [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Billy Huddleston [EMAIL PROTECTED]; users@spamassassin.apache.org
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: SA Webmail Portal



Chris St. Pierre wrote:

Remember, SA doesn't filter, file, deliver, or anything else.  You can
use it to munge the message, but anything else is up to other software
-- in this case, probably your IMAP server.


Not entirely true.   These options change the delivery address.  If you 
use these and also virtusertable, you could deliver tagged mail to a 
different location.


## ADDING ADDRESS EXTENSIONS TO RECIPIENTS - 'plus addressing'
# $recipient_delimiter = undef;
# $replace_existing_extension = 1;
# $addr_extension_virus  = undef;
# $addr_extension_banned = undef;
# $addr_extension_spam   = undef;
# $addr_extension_bad_header = undef;
# @addr_extension_virus_maps  = (\$addr_extension_virus);
# @addr_extension_banned_maps = (\$addr_extension_banned);
# @addr_extension_spam_maps   = (\$addr_extension_spam);
# @addr_extension_bad_header_maps = (\$addr_extension_bad_header);




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Jo Rhett
Network/Software Engineer
Net Consonance





Re: SA Webmail Portal

2006-10-17 Thread Chris St. Pierre
On Tue, 17 Oct 2006, Billy Huddleston wrote:

 Okay, so next question.. might be totally out of topic for SA.. How can I make
 the front-end mail server know if a email exists on the backend server..
 Example.. I use qmail on my front-end..  I don't like receiving tons of 
 invalid
 emails just to turn around and attempt to deliver bounces that could possibly
 be going to honeypots or servers that don't take mail etc..  I solved this on
 my own domain by using a smtp vrfy script that checks against my backend mail
 server.. but since the other domains don't have mailboxes on my back-end 
 server
 and is only setup to relay their mail, it blindly accepts EVERYTHING for 
 them..
 any suggestions?

 Thanks, Billy

Are you asking how to prevent backscatter?

http://www.google.com/search?hs=NQZhl=enlr=c2coff=1client=operarls=enq=spam+backscatterbtnG=Search

If so, you'll need to look at your MTA.

Chris St. Pierre
Unix Systems Administrator
Nebraska Wesleyan University



Re: SA Webmail Portal

2006-10-17 Thread DAve

Billy Huddleston wrote:

Anyone developed a webmail portal for Spamassassin?  What I mean by
this is.. Some sort of webmail which only has a spam folder so people
can see their spam.. anything else passes on through..  I'm running
SA in two manners.. One of which is going directly to my pop server
and tags all the spam.. and my pop server files stuff away
accordingly.. but, I'm also providing spam tagging services for other
customers.. whom are now requesting that they not get the spam, but
have a webmail portal page similar to Postini's  (also a nice place
to adjust their scores)

Thanks, Billy




If I understand your question then yes. We currently Virus scan and spam 
filter on our mail gateways and then forward to our toasters inside. We 
also do mail filtering for other clients Exchange servers outside our 
network.


We setup MailScanner to hold all tagged spam within the quarantine and 
we send a daily quarantine report to each user every day. The user can 
then log into their quarantine and release spam messages which will then 
be delivered normally.


We use a heavily modified version of MailWatch for MailScanner to do this.

DAve

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Re: SA Webmail Portal

2006-10-17 Thread hamann . w
 Okay, so next question.. might be totally out of topic for SA.. How can I 
 make the front-end mail server know if a email exists on the backend 
 server.. Example.. I use qmail on my front-end..  I don't like receiving 
 tons of invalid emails just to turn around and attempt to deliver bounces 
 that could possibly be going to honeypots or servers that don't take mail 
 etc..  I solved this on my own domain by using a smtp vrfy script that 
 checks against my backend mail server.. but since the other domains don't 
 have mailboxes on my back-end server and is only setup to relay their mail, 
 it blindly accepts EVERYTHING for them..  any suggestions?
 
 Thanks, Billy
 

Hi,

explain to your customers that giving you a list of mail accounts is beneficial 
to them

Wolfgang Hamann



RE: SA Webmail Portal

2006-10-17 Thread R Lists06
 
 Hi,
 
 explain to your customers that giving you a list of mail accounts is
 beneficial to them
 
 Wolfgang Hamann
 

I see your point yet...

What specific kind of customers?

If if is part of your policy and procedure from start to finish it shouldnt
be a big deal...

Meaning, if they are renting your hosting or relay servers...

If they have their own transport and transit from you and their own
hardware, then they should be doing their own thing right?

 - rh

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