Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Tapestry 5.4

[JT]

No we don't. If it works then it's good. Because no reply from anyone about
our issue.
On Feb 12, 2016 11:58 AM, "Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo" 
wrote:

> On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 14:54:21 -0200, JT  wrote:
>
> Not. Not only you. But everyone who broke google app engine feature!
>>
>
> Did you file a JIRA ticket about it? Did you notice your question had
> already been answered by Jon Williams, who said he has a working T65.4
> application running in Google App Engine?
>
> On Feb 12, 2016 11:50 AM, "Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo" <
>> thiag...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 14:09:18 -0200, Emmanuel Sowah 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes, Thiago, that link is an evidence that Mr. Ship has abandoned his own
>>>
 Ship.


>>> I have to admit this pun was mildly amusing, even if a little bit
>>> obvious.
>>> I love puns. :)
>>>
>>> And as for you comment about Wicket, Thiago, Howard of course won't admit
>>>
 it publicly that he is using Wicket. I know a client where Howard used
 Wicket to implement their presentation layer. Contact me privately and I
 would share with you that Howard's secret.


>>> My e-mail address is already present in this thread. Just send me. If you
>>> don't, which of course is what will happen, then
>>>
>>> Thiago, how many more weeks or  months left for you also to abandon
>>>
 Tapestry?


>>> My estimate is around at least 160 weeks, probably more. Tapestry is
>>> addictive! :D
>>>
>>> By the way, answering too low-quality, repetitive, uninspired trolling
>>> already got old for me.
>>>
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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Tapestry 5.4

[Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo]

On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 14:54:21 -0200, JT  wrote:


Not. Not only you. But everyone who broke google app engine feature!


Did you file a JIRA ticket about it? Did you notice your question had  
already been answered by Jon Williams, who said he has a working T65.4  
application running in Google App Engine?


On Feb 12, 2016 11:50 AM, "Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo"  


wrote:


On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 14:09:18 -0200, Emmanuel Sowah 
wrote:

Yes, Thiago, that link is an evidence that Mr. Ship has abandoned his  
own

Ship.



I have to admit this pun was mildly amusing, even if a little bit  
obvious.

I love puns. :)

And as for you comment about Wicket, Thiago, Howard of course won't  
admit

it publicly that he is using Wicket. I know a client where Howard used
Wicket to implement their presentation layer. Contact me privately and  
I

would share with you that Howard's secret.



My e-mail address is already present in this thread. Just send me. If  
you

don't, which of course is what will happen, then

Thiago, how many more weeks or  months left for you also to abandon

Tapestry?



My estimate is around at least 160 weeks, probably more. Tapestry is
addictive! :D

By the way, answering too low-quality, repetitive, uninspired trolling
already got old for me.

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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Tapestry 5.4

[JT]

Not. Not only you. But everyone who broke google app engine feature!
On Feb 12, 2016 11:50 AM, "Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo" 
wrote:

> On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 14:09:18 -0200, Emmanuel Sowah 
> wrote:
>
> Yes, Thiago, that link is an evidence that Mr. Ship has abandoned his own
>> Ship.
>>
>
> I have to admit this pun was mildly amusing, even if a little bit obvious.
> I love puns. :)
>
> And as for you comment about Wicket, Thiago, Howard of course won't admit
>> it publicly that he is using Wicket. I know a client where Howard used
>> Wicket to implement their presentation layer. Contact me privately and I
>> would share with you that Howard's secret.
>>
>
> My e-mail address is already present in this thread. Just send me. If you
> don't, which of course is what will happen, then
>
> Thiago, how many more weeks or  months left for you also to abandon
>> Tapestry?
>>
>
> My estimate is around at least 160 weeks, probably more. Tapestry is
> addictive! :D
>
> By the way, answering too low-quality, repetitive, uninspired trolling
> already got old for me.
>
> --
> Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo
> Tapestry, Java and Hibernate consultant and developer
> http://machina.com.br
>
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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Tapestry 5.4

[Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo]

On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 14:52:15 -0200, JT  wrote:


He does not even answer our questions. Of course he's gone! Shame on him.
Leaving us behind! Crappy release.


Talking about me, JT?

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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Tapestry 5.4

[JT]

He does not even answer our questions. Of course he's gone! Shame on him.
Leaving us behind! Crappy release.
On Feb 12, 2016 11:50 AM, "Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo" 
wrote:

> On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 14:09:18 -0200, Emmanuel Sowah 
> wrote:
>
> Yes, Thiago, that link is an evidence that Mr. Ship has abandoned his own
>> Ship.
>>
>
> I have to admit this pun was mildly amusing, even if a little bit obvious.
> I love puns. :)
>
> And as for you comment about Wicket, Thiago, Howard of course won't admit
>> it publicly that he is using Wicket. I know a client where Howard used
>> Wicket to implement their presentation layer. Contact me privately and I
>> would share with you that Howard's secret.
>>
>
> My e-mail address is already present in this thread. Just send me. If you
> don't, which of course is what will happen, then
>
> Thiago, how many more weeks or  months left for you also to abandon
>> Tapestry?
>>
>
> My estimate is around at least 160 weeks, probably more. Tapestry is
> addictive! :D
>
> By the way, answering too low-quality, repetitive, uninspired trolling
> already got old for me.
>
> --
> Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo
> Tapestry, Java and Hibernate consultant and developer
> http://machina.com.br
>
> -
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>

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Tapestry 5.4

[Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo]

On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 14:09:18 -0200, Emmanuel Sowah   
wrote:



Yes, Thiago, that link is an evidence that Mr. Ship has abandoned his own
Ship.


I have to admit this pun was mildly amusing, even if a little bit obvious.  
I love puns. :)



And as for you comment about Wicket, Thiago, Howard of course won't admit
it publicly that he is using Wicket. I know a client where Howard used
Wicket to implement their presentation layer. Contact me privately and I
would share with you that Howard's secret.


My e-mail address is already present in this thread. Just send me. If you  
don't, which of course is what will happen, then



Thiago, how many more weeks or  months left for you also to abandon
Tapestry?


My estimate is around at least 160 weeks, probably more. Tapestry is  
addictive! :D


By the way, answering too low-quality, repetitive, uninspired trolling  
already got old for me.


--
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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Tapestry 5.4

[Emmanuel Sowah]

Yes, Thiago, that link is an evidence that Mr. Ship has abandoned his own
Ship. He has let you all down. For those who are using Tapestry in
production, pull them down ASAP and rewrite them in another best of breed
framework like Wicket. That, Mr. Ship has left, is a clear evidence that
Tapestry would die very soon. It was already a dying framework. Let's get
the coffin ready to bury that losers framework.
And as for you comment about Wicket, Thiago, Howard of course won't admit
it publicly that he is using Wicket. I know a client where Howard used
Wicket to implement their presentation layer. Contact me privately and I
would share with you that Howard's secret.

Thiago, how many more weeks or  months left for you also to abandon
Tapestry?

On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 1:18 PM, Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo <
thiag...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 07:53:04 -0200, Emmanuel Sowah 
> wrote:
>
> Guys, how do you justify that the founder of Tapestry, Howard Lewis Ship,
>> is no more using it but using mainly Wicket in all his recent projects?
>>
>
> I wish we had some high-quality trolls (the ones who make hard, insightful
> questions) instead of this very low-quality one who keeps saying something
> which is very easily proven wrong:
> http://tapestryjava.blogspot.com.br/2015/08/seeking-new-clojure-engagment.html
> .
>
> --
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> Tapestry, Java and Hibernate consultant and developer
> http://machina.com.br
>
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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Tapestry 5.4

[Emmanuel Sowah]

Hey Bro,

Go spew those bullshit comments to you other Tapestry sect members, ok?

On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 4:15 PM, Ivano Luberti  wrote:

> So you are on this list to help us seeing the light? Aren't you?
> Like Jesus came down to earth to enlighten people in Israel and all over
> the world.
> Thank you !
> I hope you don't have to suffer like him on a cross.
>
>
> Il 12/02/2016 10:53, Emmanuel Sowah ha scritto:
> > Basile,
> >
> > You must be foolish to call me a troll. You folks here at Tapestry fail
> to
> > look beyond your small and narrow-minded community. You behave like a
> sect.
> > Even your sect leader, Howard Lewis Ship, has recently been enlightened
> and
> > have left Tapestry. You guys are now struggling with the pieces he left
> > behind. You are just fools. It is really insane people are putting
> Tapestry
> > into production. Just can't believe that. Because Tapestry is a dead
> > framework walking.
> > Guys, how do you justify that the founder of Tapestry, Howard Lewis Ship,
> > is no more using it but using mainly Wicket in all his recent projects?
> You
> > don't need an IQ of Einstein to understand why you also should stop using
> > Tapestry. Be wise for once and do the right thing. Simply quit Tapestry!
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 9:39 PM, Basile Chandesris 
> wrote:
> >
> >> https://wiki.apache.org/tapestry/Tapestry5Trolls
> >>
> >>
> >> Le 11/02/2016 21:25, JT a écrit :
> >>
> >>> No wonder itv sucks.
> >>> On Dec 25, 2015 5:40 PM, "Kalle Korhonen" 
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> No, T5.4 was still firmly headed by Howard. He created the first T5.4
>  branch over three years (see for example
> 
> http://tapestryjava.blogspot.com/2012/10/zeroing-in-on-tapestry-54.html)
>  and you can see the results of his mastermind everywhere in the T5.4
>  code.
>  I guess you could say it was the first release not finished by Howard.
> 
>  Kalle
> 
> 
>  On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 10:23 AM, Alex Kotchnev 
>  wrote:
> 
>  Pretty epic, congrats to all who contributed and participated ! Most
> > notably, this seems like the first Tapestry release that was not
> headed
> >
>  by
> 
> > Howard (of course, I don't have any stats to back that up).
> >
> > Cheers - Alex K
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 8:48 PM, Bob Harner 
> > wrote:
> >
> > The Apache Tapestry developers are proud to announce that Tapestry
> 5.4,
> >> a long-awaited major release, is now available for immediate
> download:
> >>
> >>  http://tapestry.apache.org/download
> >>
> >> Tapestry 5.4 represents a tremendous effort by a large number of
> >> people, and includes almost 200 enhancements and over 300 bug fixes.
> >> Full details are in the release notes, but here are a few
> highlights:
> >>
> >> * A JavaScript abstraction layer that removes Tapestry's dependence
> >> on Prototype and lets you swap in jQuery (or potentially other
> >> JavaScript framewords) instead.
> >>
> >> * JavaScript modules based on RequireJS
> >>
> >> * A new module, tapestry-webresources, which provides support for
> >> automatically compiling CoffeeScript into JavaScript and Less into
> >> CSS, and for minimizing CSS and JavaScript. And, best of all, this
> >> processing takes place at runtime.
> >>
> >> * Greatly improved asset caching based on the checksums of file
> >> contents, to intelligently cache assets like images and CSS only
> >> until their content changes.
> >>
> >> * The adoption of Bootstrap 3 CSS styling by default, with built-in
> >> glyphicon support.
> >>
> >> ... and many dozens of other significant changes.
> >>
> >> Despite all the changes, Tapestry 5.4 is still mostly a drop-in
> >>
> > replacement
> >
> >> for
> >> 5.3 users, with the caveat that the adoption of Bootstrap 3 CSS may
> >>
> > require
> >
> >> some
> >> CSS tweaks if you're not already using Bootstrap 3.
> >>
> >> Please see https://tapestry.apache.org/release-notes-54.html for a
> >>
> > full
> > list of
> >> changes and upgrade instructions.
> >>
> >>
> >> -
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> >> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org
> >>
> >>
>
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> Sede Operativa
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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Tapestry 5.4

[Ivano Luberti]

So you are on this list to help us seeing the light? Aren't you?
Like Jesus came down to earth to enlighten people in Israel and all over
the world.
Thank you !
I hope you don't have to suffer like him on a cross.


Il 12/02/2016 10:53, Emmanuel Sowah ha scritto:
> Basile,
>
> You must be foolish to call me a troll. You folks here at Tapestry fail to
> look beyond your small and narrow-minded community. You behave like a sect.
> Even your sect leader, Howard Lewis Ship, has recently been enlightened and
> have left Tapestry. You guys are now struggling with the pieces he left
> behind. You are just fools. It is really insane people are putting Tapestry
> into production. Just can't believe that. Because Tapestry is a dead
> framework walking.
> Guys, how do you justify that the founder of Tapestry, Howard Lewis Ship,
> is no more using it but using mainly Wicket in all his recent projects? You
> don't need an IQ of Einstein to understand why you also should stop using
> Tapestry. Be wise for once and do the right thing. Simply quit Tapestry!
>
> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 9:39 PM, Basile Chandesris  wrote:
>
>> https://wiki.apache.org/tapestry/Tapestry5Trolls
>>
>>
>> Le 11/02/2016 21:25, JT a écrit :
>>
>>> No wonder itv sucks.
>>> On Dec 25, 2015 5:40 PM, "Kalle Korhonen" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> No, T5.4 was still firmly headed by Howard. He created the first T5.4
 branch over three years (see for example
 http://tapestryjava.blogspot.com/2012/10/zeroing-in-on-tapestry-54.html)
 and you can see the results of his mastermind everywhere in the T5.4
 code.
 I guess you could say it was the first release not finished by Howard.

 Kalle


 On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 10:23 AM, Alex Kotchnev 
 wrote:

 Pretty epic, congrats to all who contributed and participated ! Most
> notably, this seems like the first Tapestry release that was not headed
>
 by

> Howard (of course, I don't have any stats to back that up).
>
> Cheers - Alex K
>
> On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 8:48 PM, Bob Harner 
> wrote:
>
> The Apache Tapestry developers are proud to announce that Tapestry 5.4,
>> a long-awaited major release, is now available for immediate download:
>>
>>  http://tapestry.apache.org/download
>>
>> Tapestry 5.4 represents a tremendous effort by a large number of
>> people, and includes almost 200 enhancements and over 300 bug fixes.
>> Full details are in the release notes, but here are a few highlights:
>>
>> * A JavaScript abstraction layer that removes Tapestry's dependence
>> on Prototype and lets you swap in jQuery (or potentially other
>> JavaScript framewords) instead.
>>
>> * JavaScript modules based on RequireJS
>>
>> * A new module, tapestry-webresources, which provides support for
>> automatically compiling CoffeeScript into JavaScript and Less into
>> CSS, and for minimizing CSS and JavaScript. And, best of all, this
>> processing takes place at runtime.
>>
>> * Greatly improved asset caching based on the checksums of file
>> contents, to intelligently cache assets like images and CSS only
>> until their content changes.
>>
>> * The adoption of Bootstrap 3 CSS styling by default, with built-in
>> glyphicon support.
>>
>> ... and many dozens of other significant changes.
>>
>> Despite all the changes, Tapestry 5.4 is still mostly a drop-in
>>
> replacement
>
>> for
>> 5.3 users, with the caveat that the adoption of Bootstrap 3 CSS may
>>
> require
>
>> some
>> CSS tweaks if you're not already using Bootstrap 3.
>>
>> Please see https://tapestry.apache.org/release-notes-54.html for a
>>
> full
> list of
>> changes and upgrade instructions.
>>
>>
>> -
>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org
>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org
>>
>>

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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Tapestry 5.4

[JT]

Consistent my ass.
On Feb 12, 2016 4:53 AM, "Emmanuel Sowah"  wrote:

> Basile,
>
> You must be foolish to call me a troll. You folks here at Tapestry fail to
> look beyond your small and narrow-minded community. You behave like a sect.
> Even your sect leader, Howard Lewis Ship, has recently been enlightened and
> have left Tapestry. You guys are now struggling with the pieces he left
> behind. You are just fools. It is really insane people are putting Tapestry
> into production. Just can't believe that. Because Tapestry is a dead
> framework walking.
> Guys, how do you justify that the founder of Tapestry, Howard Lewis Ship,
> is no more using it but using mainly Wicket in all his recent projects? You
> don't need an IQ of Einstein to understand why you also should stop using
> Tapestry. Be wise for once and do the right thing. Simply quit Tapestry!
>
> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 9:39 PM, Basile Chandesris  wrote:
>
> > https://wiki.apache.org/tapestry/Tapestry5Trolls
> >
> >
> > Le 11/02/2016 21:25, JT a écrit :
> >
> >> No wonder itv sucks.
> >> On Dec 25, 2015 5:40 PM, "Kalle Korhonen" 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> No, T5.4 was still firmly headed by Howard. He created the first T5.4
> >>> branch over three years (see for example
> >>>
> http://tapestryjava.blogspot.com/2012/10/zeroing-in-on-tapestry-54.html)
> >>> and you can see the results of his mastermind everywhere in the T5.4
> >>> code.
> >>> I guess you could say it was the first release not finished by Howard.
> >>>
> >>> Kalle
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 10:23 AM, Alex Kotchnev 
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Pretty epic, congrats to all who contributed and participated ! Most
>  notably, this seems like the first Tapestry release that was not
> headed
> 
> >>> by
> >>>
>  Howard (of course, I don't have any stats to back that up).
> 
>  Cheers - Alex K
> 
>  On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 8:48 PM, Bob Harner 
>  wrote:
> 
>  The Apache Tapestry developers are proud to announce that Tapestry
> 5.4,
> > a long-awaited major release, is now available for immediate
> download:
> >
> >  http://tapestry.apache.org/download
> >
> > Tapestry 5.4 represents a tremendous effort by a large number of
> > people, and includes almost 200 enhancements and over 300 bug fixes.
> > Full details are in the release notes, but here are a few highlights:
> >
> > * A JavaScript abstraction layer that removes Tapestry's dependence
> > on Prototype and lets you swap in jQuery (or potentially other
> > JavaScript framewords) instead.
> >
> > * JavaScript modules based on RequireJS
> >
> > * A new module, tapestry-webresources, which provides support for
> > automatically compiling CoffeeScript into JavaScript and Less into
> > CSS, and for minimizing CSS and JavaScript. And, best of all, this
> > processing takes place at runtime.
> >
> > * Greatly improved asset caching based on the checksums of file
> > contents, to intelligently cache assets like images and CSS only
> > until their content changes.
> >
> > * The adoption of Bootstrap 3 CSS styling by default, with built-in
> > glyphicon support.
> >
> > ... and many dozens of other significant changes.
> >
> > Despite all the changes, Tapestry 5.4 is still mostly a drop-in
> >
>  replacement
> 
> > for
> > 5.3 users, with the caveat that the adoption of Bootstrap 3 CSS may
> >
>  require
> 
> > some
> > CSS tweaks if you're not already using Bootstrap 3.
> >
> > Please see https://tapestry.apache.org/release-notes-54.html for a
> >
>  full
> >>>
>  list of
> > changes and upgrade instructions.
> >
> >
> >
> > -
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org
> > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org
> >
> >
>

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Tapestry 5.4

[Bob Harner]

You have to give our troll some credit... Low quality, sure, but at least
he's consistent! He's been spewing the same nonsense on this mailing list
for about 10 years now. https://wiki.apache.org/tapestry/Tapestry5Trolls
On Feb 12, 2016 7:18 AM, "Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo" 
wrote:

> On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 07:53:04 -0200, Emmanuel Sowah 
> wrote:
>
> Guys, how do you justify that the founder of Tapestry, Howard Lewis Ship,
>> is no more using it but using mainly Wicket in all his recent projects?
>>
>
> I wish we had some high-quality trolls (the ones who make hard, insightful
> questions) instead of this very low-quality one who keeps saying something
> which is very easily proven wrong:
> http://tapestryjava.blogspot.com.br/2015/08/seeking-new-clojure-engagment.html
> .
>
> --
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> Tapestry, Java and Hibernate consultant and developer
> http://machina.com.br
>
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>

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Tapestry 5.4

[Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo]

On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 07:53:04 -0200, Emmanuel Sowah   
wrote:



Guys, how do you justify that the founder of Tapestry, Howard Lewis Ship,
is no more using it but using mainly Wicket in all his recent projects?


I wish we had some high-quality trolls (the ones who make hard, insightful  
questions) instead of this very low-quality one who keeps saying something  
which is very easily proven wrong:  
http://tapestryjava.blogspot.com.br/2015/08/seeking-new-clojure-engagment.html.


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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Tapestry 5.4

[Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo]

On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 08:00:36 -0200, Emmanuel Sowah   
wrote:



Thiago,


Hello, low-quality troll!


What do you mean by "non-Howard committers"? Why are you dividing? I
thought there were only 2 groups, committers and non-committers.


Tapestry is sometimes accused of being a one-man show, and this release  
once more proves this is false.



Stop that childish act and be brave enough to accept the blame.


Trolling is childish. Writing open-source software isn't.


This release indeed
sucks. Tapestry sucks as a whole. Why waste other people's time to ask  
them to contribute to a framework that is dying?


Why do you waste time trolling here and spreading lies, such as Howard  
using Wicket? If you took a look at his blog or LinkedIn profile and  
wasn't a stupid troll, you'd notice he's not using Java anymore, and guess  
what language Wicket is written . . .


--
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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Tapestry 5.4

[Dimitris Zenios]

I have been using tapestry 5 in more than 10 complex web applications with
with no problem at all.Never had problems upgrading from one version to
another except some minor changes.

Its one of the best Java web frameworks I have ever used.

On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 12:51 PM, Carlos Montero Canabal <
carlosmonterocana...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I have many apps into production with more than 50.000 users and 200.000
> page-views at month and Tapestry works very good. I use Tapestry from
> 5.1.0.5 and it always run fast and I develop projects very easy and
> productive.
>
> I haven´t any problem with 5.4.0 version and I think my webapps (flight
> search-engine, e-commerce, booking webapp...) have some complex, not only
> "hello world".
>
> 2016-02-12 10:53 GMT+01:00 Emmanuel Sowah :
>
> > Basile,
> >
> > You must be foolish to call me a troll. You folks here at Tapestry fail
> to
> > look beyond your small and narrow-minded community. You behave like a
> sect.
> > Even your sect leader, Howard Lewis Ship, has recently been enlightened
> and
> > have left Tapestry. You guys are now struggling with the pieces he left
> > behind. You are just fools. It is really insane people are putting
> Tapestry
> > into production. Just can't believe that. Because Tapestry is a dead
> > framework walking.
> > Guys, how do you justify that the founder of Tapestry, Howard Lewis Ship,
> > is no more using it but using mainly Wicket in all his recent projects?
> You
> > don't need an IQ of Einstein to understand why you also should stop using
> > Tapestry. Be wise for once and do the right thing. Simply quit Tapestry!
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 9:39 PM, Basile Chandesris 
> wrote:
> >
> > > https://wiki.apache.org/tapestry/Tapestry5Trolls
> > >
> > >
> > > Le 11/02/2016 21:25, JT a écrit :
> > >
> > >> No wonder itv sucks.
> > >> On Dec 25, 2015 5:40 PM, "Kalle Korhonen"  >
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> No, T5.4 was still firmly headed by Howard. He created the first T5.4
> > >>> branch over three years (see for example
> > >>>
> > http://tapestryjava.blogspot.com/2012/10/zeroing-in-on-tapestry-54.html)
> > >>> and you can see the results of his mastermind everywhere in the T5.4
> > >>> code.
> > >>> I guess you could say it was the first release not finished by
> Howard.
> > >>>
> > >>> Kalle
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 10:23 AM, Alex Kotchnev 
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Pretty epic, congrats to all who contributed and participated ! Most
> >  notably, this seems like the first Tapestry release that was not
> > headed
> > 
> > >>> by
> > >>>
> >  Howard (of course, I don't have any stats to back that up).
> > 
> >  Cheers - Alex K
> > 
> >  On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 8:48 PM, Bob Harner 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> >  The Apache Tapestry developers are proud to announce that Tapestry
> > 5.4,
> > > a long-awaited major release, is now available for immediate
> > download:
> > >
> > >  http://tapestry.apache.org/download
> > >
> > > Tapestry 5.4 represents a tremendous effort by a large number of
> > > people, and includes almost 200 enhancements and over 300 bug
> fixes.
> > > Full details are in the release notes, but here are a few
> highlights:
> > >
> > > * A JavaScript abstraction layer that removes Tapestry's dependence
> > > on Prototype and lets you swap in jQuery (or potentially other
> > > JavaScript framewords) instead.
> > >
> > > * JavaScript modules based on RequireJS
> > >
> > > * A new module, tapestry-webresources, which provides support for
> > > automatically compiling CoffeeScript into JavaScript and Less into
> > > CSS, and for minimizing CSS and JavaScript. And, best of all, this
> > > processing takes place at runtime.
> > >
> > > * Greatly improved asset caching based on the checksums of file
> > > contents, to intelligently cache assets like images and CSS only
> > > until their content changes.
> > >
> > > * The adoption of Bootstrap 3 CSS styling by default, with built-in
> > > glyphicon support.
> > >
> > > ... and many dozens of other significant changes.
> > >
> > > Despite all the changes, Tapestry 5.4 is still mostly a drop-in
> > >
> >  replacement
> > 
> > > for
> > > 5.3 users, with the caveat that the adoption of Bootstrap 3 CSS may
> > >
> >  require
> > 
> > > some
> > > CSS tweaks if you're not already using Bootstrap 3.
> > >
> > > Please see https://tapestry.apache.org/release-notes-54.html for a
> > >
> >  full
> > >>>
> >  list of
> > > changes and upgrade instructions.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -
> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org
> > > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org
> > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Tapestry 5.4

[Carlos Montero Canabal]

I have many apps into production with more than 50.000 users and 200.000
page-views at month and Tapestry works very good. I use Tapestry from
5.1.0.5 and it always run fast and I develop projects very easy and
productive.

I haven´t any problem with 5.4.0 version and I think my webapps (flight
search-engine, e-commerce, booking webapp...) have some complex, not only
"hello world".

2016-02-12 10:53 GMT+01:00 Emmanuel Sowah :

> Basile,
>
> You must be foolish to call me a troll. You folks here at Tapestry fail to
> look beyond your small and narrow-minded community. You behave like a sect.
> Even your sect leader, Howard Lewis Ship, has recently been enlightened and
> have left Tapestry. You guys are now struggling with the pieces he left
> behind. You are just fools. It is really insane people are putting Tapestry
> into production. Just can't believe that. Because Tapestry is a dead
> framework walking.
> Guys, how do you justify that the founder of Tapestry, Howard Lewis Ship,
> is no more using it but using mainly Wicket in all his recent projects? You
> don't need an IQ of Einstein to understand why you also should stop using
> Tapestry. Be wise for once and do the right thing. Simply quit Tapestry!
>
> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 9:39 PM, Basile Chandesris  wrote:
>
> > https://wiki.apache.org/tapestry/Tapestry5Trolls
> >
> >
> > Le 11/02/2016 21:25, JT a écrit :
> >
> >> No wonder itv sucks.
> >> On Dec 25, 2015 5:40 PM, "Kalle Korhonen" 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> No, T5.4 was still firmly headed by Howard. He created the first T5.4
> >>> branch over three years (see for example
> >>>
> http://tapestryjava.blogspot.com/2012/10/zeroing-in-on-tapestry-54.html)
> >>> and you can see the results of his mastermind everywhere in the T5.4
> >>> code.
> >>> I guess you could say it was the first release not finished by Howard.
> >>>
> >>> Kalle
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 10:23 AM, Alex Kotchnev 
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Pretty epic, congrats to all who contributed and participated ! Most
>  notably, this seems like the first Tapestry release that was not
> headed
> 
> >>> by
> >>>
>  Howard (of course, I don't have any stats to back that up).
> 
>  Cheers - Alex K
> 
>  On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 8:48 PM, Bob Harner 
>  wrote:
> 
>  The Apache Tapestry developers are proud to announce that Tapestry
> 5.4,
> > a long-awaited major release, is now available for immediate
> download:
> >
> >  http://tapestry.apache.org/download
> >
> > Tapestry 5.4 represents a tremendous effort by a large number of
> > people, and includes almost 200 enhancements and over 300 bug fixes.
> > Full details are in the release notes, but here are a few highlights:
> >
> > * A JavaScript abstraction layer that removes Tapestry's dependence
> > on Prototype and lets you swap in jQuery (or potentially other
> > JavaScript framewords) instead.
> >
> > * JavaScript modules based on RequireJS
> >
> > * A new module, tapestry-webresources, which provides support for
> > automatically compiling CoffeeScript into JavaScript and Less into
> > CSS, and for minimizing CSS and JavaScript. And, best of all, this
> > processing takes place at runtime.
> >
> > * Greatly improved asset caching based on the checksums of file
> > contents, to intelligently cache assets like images and CSS only
> > until their content changes.
> >
> > * The adoption of Bootstrap 3 CSS styling by default, with built-in
> > glyphicon support.
> >
> > ... and many dozens of other significant changes.
> >
> > Despite all the changes, Tapestry 5.4 is still mostly a drop-in
> >
>  replacement
> 
> > for
> > 5.3 users, with the caveat that the adoption of Bootstrap 3 CSS may
> >
>  require
> 
> > some
> > CSS tweaks if you're not already using Bootstrap 3.
> >
> > Please see https://tapestry.apache.org/release-notes-54.html for a
> >
>  full
> >>>
>  list of
> > changes and upgrade instructions.
> >
> >
> >
> > -
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org
> > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org
> >
> >
>

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Tapestry 5.4

[Emmanuel Sowah]

Thiago,

What do you mean by "non-Howard committers"? Why are you dividing? I
thought there were only 2 groups, committers and non-committers. Stop that
childish act and be brave enough to accept the blame. This release indeed
sucks. Tapestry sucks as a whole. Why waste other people's time to ask them
to contribute to a framework that is dying?


On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 2:29 PM, Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo <
thiag...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 29 Dec 2015 12:28:21 -0200, Barry Books  wrote:
>
> Finished is important.
>>
>
> Indeed. In addition, I think we could say this was the release in which
> non-Howard committers have done the most work so far.
>
>
> --
> Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo
> Tapestry, Java and Hibernate consultant and developer
> http://machina.com.br
>
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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Tapestry 5.4

[Emmanuel Sowah]

Basile,

You must be foolish to call me a troll. You folks here at Tapestry fail to
look beyond your small and narrow-minded community. You behave like a sect.
Even your sect leader, Howard Lewis Ship, has recently been enlightened and
have left Tapestry. You guys are now struggling with the pieces he left
behind. You are just fools. It is really insane people are putting Tapestry
into production. Just can't believe that. Because Tapestry is a dead
framework walking.
Guys, how do you justify that the founder of Tapestry, Howard Lewis Ship,
is no more using it but using mainly Wicket in all his recent projects? You
don't need an IQ of Einstein to understand why you also should stop using
Tapestry. Be wise for once and do the right thing. Simply quit Tapestry!

On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 9:39 PM, Basile Chandesris  wrote:

> https://wiki.apache.org/tapestry/Tapestry5Trolls
>
>
> Le 11/02/2016 21:25, JT a écrit :
>
>> No wonder itv sucks.
>> On Dec 25, 2015 5:40 PM, "Kalle Korhonen" 
>> wrote:
>>
>> No, T5.4 was still firmly headed by Howard. He created the first T5.4
>>> branch over three years (see for example
>>> http://tapestryjava.blogspot.com/2012/10/zeroing-in-on-tapestry-54.html)
>>> and you can see the results of his mastermind everywhere in the T5.4
>>> code.
>>> I guess you could say it was the first release not finished by Howard.
>>>
>>> Kalle
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 10:23 AM, Alex Kotchnev 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Pretty epic, congrats to all who contributed and participated ! Most
 notably, this seems like the first Tapestry release that was not headed

>>> by
>>>
 Howard (of course, I don't have any stats to back that up).

 Cheers - Alex K

 On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 8:48 PM, Bob Harner 
 wrote:

 The Apache Tapestry developers are proud to announce that Tapestry 5.4,
> a long-awaited major release, is now available for immediate download:
>
>  http://tapestry.apache.org/download
>
> Tapestry 5.4 represents a tremendous effort by a large number of
> people, and includes almost 200 enhancements and over 300 bug fixes.
> Full details are in the release notes, but here are a few highlights:
>
> * A JavaScript abstraction layer that removes Tapestry's dependence
> on Prototype and lets you swap in jQuery (or potentially other
> JavaScript framewords) instead.
>
> * JavaScript modules based on RequireJS
>
> * A new module, tapestry-webresources, which provides support for
> automatically compiling CoffeeScript into JavaScript and Less into
> CSS, and for minimizing CSS and JavaScript. And, best of all, this
> processing takes place at runtime.
>
> * Greatly improved asset caching based on the checksums of file
> contents, to intelligently cache assets like images and CSS only
> until their content changes.
>
> * The adoption of Bootstrap 3 CSS styling by default, with built-in
> glyphicon support.
>
> ... and many dozens of other significant changes.
>
> Despite all the changes, Tapestry 5.4 is still mostly a drop-in
>
 replacement

> for
> 5.3 users, with the caveat that the adoption of Bootstrap 3 CSS may
>
 require

> some
> CSS tweaks if you're not already using Bootstrap 3.
>
> Please see https://tapestry.apache.org/release-notes-54.html for a
>
 full
>>>
 list of
> changes and upgrade instructions.
>
>
>
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>
>

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Tapestry 5.4

[JT]

But it broke the functionally with Google App Engine!!!
On Dec 22, 2015 8:48 PM, "Bob Harner"  wrote:

> The Apache Tapestry developers are proud to announce that Tapestry 5.4,
> a long-awaited major release, is now available for immediate download:
>
> http://tapestry.apache.org/download
>
> Tapestry 5.4 represents a tremendous effort by a large number of
> people, and includes almost 200 enhancements and over 300 bug fixes.
> Full details are in the release notes, but here are a few highlights:
>
> * A JavaScript abstraction layer that removes Tapestry's dependence
> on Prototype and lets you swap in jQuery (or potentially other
> JavaScript framewords) instead.
>
> * JavaScript modules based on RequireJS
>
> * A new module, tapestry-webresources, which provides support for
> automatically compiling CoffeeScript into JavaScript and Less into
> CSS, and for minimizing CSS and JavaScript. And, best of all, this
> processing takes place at runtime.
>
> * Greatly improved asset caching based on the checksums of file
> contents, to intelligently cache assets like images and CSS only
> until their content changes.
>
> * The adoption of Bootstrap 3 CSS styling by default, with built-in
> glyphicon support.
>
> ... and many dozens of other significant changes.
>
> Despite all the changes, Tapestry 5.4 is still mostly a drop-in replacement
> for
> 5.3 users, with the caveat that the adoption of Bootstrap 3 CSS may require
> some
> CSS tweaks if you're not already using Bootstrap 3.
>
> Please see https://tapestry.apache.org/release-notes-54.html for a full
> list of
> changes and upgrade instructions.
>

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Tapestry 5.4

[Basile Chandesris]

https://wiki.apache.org/tapestry/Tapestry5Trolls

Le 11/02/2016 21:25, JT a écrit :

No wonder itv sucks.
On Dec 25, 2015 5:40 PM, "Kalle Korhonen" 
wrote:


No, T5.4 was still firmly headed by Howard. He created the first T5.4
branch over three years (see for example
http://tapestryjava.blogspot.com/2012/10/zeroing-in-on-tapestry-54.html)
and you can see the results of his mastermind everywhere in the T5.4 code.
I guess you could say it was the first release not finished by Howard.

Kalle


On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 10:23 AM, Alex Kotchnev 
wrote:


Pretty epic, congrats to all who contributed and participated ! Most
notably, this seems like the first Tapestry release that was not headed

by

Howard (of course, I don't have any stats to back that up).

Cheers - Alex K

On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 8:48 PM, Bob Harner  wrote:


The Apache Tapestry developers are proud to announce that Tapestry 5.4,
a long-awaited major release, is now available for immediate download:

 http://tapestry.apache.org/download

Tapestry 5.4 represents a tremendous effort by a large number of
people, and includes almost 200 enhancements and over 300 bug fixes.
Full details are in the release notes, but here are a few highlights:

* A JavaScript abstraction layer that removes Tapestry's dependence
on Prototype and lets you swap in jQuery (or potentially other
JavaScript framewords) instead.

* JavaScript modules based on RequireJS

* A new module, tapestry-webresources, which provides support for
automatically compiling CoffeeScript into JavaScript and Less into
CSS, and for minimizing CSS and JavaScript. And, best of all, this
processing takes place at runtime.

* Greatly improved asset caching based on the checksums of file
contents, to intelligently cache assets like images and CSS only
until their content changes.

* The adoption of Bootstrap 3 CSS styling by default, with built-in
glyphicon support.

... and many dozens of other significant changes.

Despite all the changes, Tapestry 5.4 is still mostly a drop-in

replacement

for
5.3 users, with the caveat that the adoption of Bootstrap 3 CSS may

require

some
CSS tweaks if you're not already using Bootstrap 3.

Please see https://tapestry.apache.org/release-notes-54.html for a

full

list of
changes and upgrade instructions.




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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Tapestry 5.4

[JT]

No wonder itv sucks.
On Dec 25, 2015 5:40 PM, "Kalle Korhonen" 
wrote:

> No, T5.4 was still firmly headed by Howard. He created the first T5.4
> branch over three years (see for example
> http://tapestryjava.blogspot.com/2012/10/zeroing-in-on-tapestry-54.html)
> and you can see the results of his mastermind everywhere in the T5.4 code.
> I guess you could say it was the first release not finished by Howard.
>
> Kalle
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 10:23 AM, Alex Kotchnev 
> wrote:
>
> > Pretty epic, congrats to all who contributed and participated ! Most
> > notably, this seems like the first Tapestry release that was not headed
> by
> > Howard (of course, I don't have any stats to back that up).
> >
> > Cheers - Alex K
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 8:48 PM, Bob Harner  wrote:
> >
> > > The Apache Tapestry developers are proud to announce that Tapestry 5.4,
> > > a long-awaited major release, is now available for immediate download:
> > >
> > > http://tapestry.apache.org/download
> > >
> > > Tapestry 5.4 represents a tremendous effort by a large number of
> > > people, and includes almost 200 enhancements and over 300 bug fixes.
> > > Full details are in the release notes, but here are a few highlights:
> > >
> > > * A JavaScript abstraction layer that removes Tapestry's dependence
> > > on Prototype and lets you swap in jQuery (or potentially other
> > > JavaScript framewords) instead.
> > >
> > > * JavaScript modules based on RequireJS
> > >
> > > * A new module, tapestry-webresources, which provides support for
> > > automatically compiling CoffeeScript into JavaScript and Less into
> > > CSS, and for minimizing CSS and JavaScript. And, best of all, this
> > > processing takes place at runtime.
> > >
> > > * Greatly improved asset caching based on the checksums of file
> > > contents, to intelligently cache assets like images and CSS only
> > > until their content changes.
> > >
> > > * The adoption of Bootstrap 3 CSS styling by default, with built-in
> > > glyphicon support.
> > >
> > > ... and many dozens of other significant changes.
> > >
> > > Despite all the changes, Tapestry 5.4 is still mostly a drop-in
> > replacement
> > > for
> > > 5.3 users, with the caveat that the adoption of Bootstrap 3 CSS may
> > require
> > > some
> > > CSS tweaks if you're not already using Bootstrap 3.
> > >
> > > Please see https://tapestry.apache.org/release-notes-54.html for a
> full
> > > list of
> > > changes and upgrade instructions.
> > >
> >
>

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Tapestry 5.4

[Ilya Obshadko]

I've been using Tapestry actively since version 5.0 and still think it's on
of the best in terms of overall design and approach.

However latest updates (since 5.4-beta22 I guess) is a total mess. I was
hoping that final release should clean up things, but apparently that
didn't happen. I have to stick to 5.4-beta6 for now - I use it in
production for over a year and it doesn't have any major issues.

On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 7:47 PM, Emmanuel Sowah  wrote:

> Folks,
>
> This is why you should drop Tapestry ASAP, and head to a more serious and
> state of the art frameworks. Tapestry is meant for POCs and prototypes that
> you plan to throw away. Even Howard doesn't use Tapestry anymore. He uses
> Wicket. Tapestry is just a joke.
>
> Cheers
>
> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 4:29 PM, Ilya Obshadko 
> wrote:
>
> > FormFragments are inside a loop.
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 5:12 PM, JumpStart <
> > geoff.callender.jumpst...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > How does your code differ from JumpStart’s Wizard Using Form Fragments
> > > example?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://jumpstart.doublenegative.com.au/jumpstart7/examples/wizard/usingformfragments/$N/$N
> > >
> > > Geoff
> > >
> > > > On 11 Feb 2016, at 10:55 PM, Ilya Obshadko 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Just found another issue: it throws validation errors for a form
> > fragment
> > > > that's hidden during form submission:
> > > > https://monosnap.com/file/t9Hh48KeLUOBIha8PLPvGrOu29TUnn.png
> > > >
> > > > This is very frustrating. All complex things that were working out of
> > the
> > > > box now seem to be broken in unexpected places.
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 4:13 PM, Ilya Obshadko <
> > ilya.obsha...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> I'll try to gather more evidence.
> > > >>
> > > >> From the first glance, validation messages don't show up at all
> > without
> > > >> setting *simpleIds=true* (as per TAP-2391). Setting *simpleIds=true*
> > > >> helps to fix this for simple forms, but completely breaks more
> complex
> > > ones
> > > >> (when validated fields are inside AjaxFormLoop, for example).
> > > >>
> > > >> Looks like something was also changed in the way AjaxFormLoop
> > submission
> > > >> is processed, and now I'm getting NPEs in places that work just fine
> > on
> > > >> beta6.
> > > >>
> > > >> Also, there are occasional Bootstrap JS errors (something like
> > > 'popover.js
> > > >> requires tooltip.js to work'; needless to say that both are loaded).
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 11:12 AM, JumpStart <
> > > >> geoff.callender.jumpst...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Are you sure it’s 5.4.0? I’m running 5.4.0 in JumpStart
> > > >>>
> > > >>>http://jumpstart.doublenegative.com.au/jumpstart7/
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Can you point to the problem there?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Also, in a production site I’m running its last predecessor,
> > > 5.4-beta-35,
> > > >>> with AJAX Forms and Zones throughout without a problem.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Can you be more specific?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Geoff
> > > >>>
> > >  On 11 Feb 2016, at 4:42 PM, Ilya Obshadko <
> ilya.obsha...@gmail.com>
> > > >>> wrote:
> > > 
> > >  Just tried to switch to 5.4 release from 5.4-beta6 (which I've
> been
> > > >>> using
> > >  for over a year).
> > > 
> > >  At least AJAX forms are seriously broken.
> > > 
> > >  The most critical issue is
> > > >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAP5-2391
> > >  (which is marked as 'Solved', but actually far from being solved).
> > > 
> > >  There's a number of other glitches, but this one is the worst.
> > Setting
> > >  *simpleIds* to true for zones doesn't help much, as this results
> in
> > > >>> other
> > >  problems in complex forms.
> > > 
> > >  Are there any other workarounds?
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 12:53 PM, Basile Chandesris  >
> > > >>> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I noticed that the 'Tapestry 5.4 Announce' is not available on
> > Apache
> > > > www-announce mailing list.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The Apache News Round-up: week ending 8 January 2016:
> > > >
> > > >>>
> > >
> >
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-announce/201601.mbox/browser
> > > >
> > > > https://blogs.apache.org/
> > > > https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/search?q=tapestry
> > > >
> > > > regards,
> > > > Basile
> > > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  --
> > >  Ilya Obshadko
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> -
> > > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org
> > > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> Ilya Obshadko
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Ilya Obshadko
> > >
> > >
> > > 

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Tapestry 5.4

[Emmanuel Sowah]

Folks,

This is why you should drop Tapestry ASAP, and head to a more serious and
state of the art frameworks. Tapestry is meant for POCs and prototypes that
you plan to throw away. Even Howard doesn't use Tapestry anymore. He uses
Wicket. Tapestry is just a joke.

Cheers

On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 4:29 PM, Ilya Obshadko 
wrote:

> FormFragments are inside a loop.
>
> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 5:12 PM, JumpStart <
> geoff.callender.jumpst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > How does your code differ from JumpStart’s Wizard Using Form Fragments
> > example?
> >
> >
> >
> http://jumpstart.doublenegative.com.au/jumpstart7/examples/wizard/usingformfragments/$N/$N
> >
> > Geoff
> >
> > > On 11 Feb 2016, at 10:55 PM, Ilya Obshadko 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Just found another issue: it throws validation errors for a form
> fragment
> > > that's hidden during form submission:
> > > https://monosnap.com/file/t9Hh48KeLUOBIha8PLPvGrOu29TUnn.png
> > >
> > > This is very frustrating. All complex things that were working out of
> the
> > > box now seem to be broken in unexpected places.
> > >
> > > On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 4:13 PM, Ilya Obshadko <
> ilya.obsha...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> I'll try to gather more evidence.
> > >>
> > >> From the first glance, validation messages don't show up at all
> without
> > >> setting *simpleIds=true* (as per TAP-2391). Setting *simpleIds=true*
> > >> helps to fix this for simple forms, but completely breaks more complex
> > ones
> > >> (when validated fields are inside AjaxFormLoop, for example).
> > >>
> > >> Looks like something was also changed in the way AjaxFormLoop
> submission
> > >> is processed, and now I'm getting NPEs in places that work just fine
> on
> > >> beta6.
> > >>
> > >> Also, there are occasional Bootstrap JS errors (something like
> > 'popover.js
> > >> requires tooltip.js to work'; needless to say that both are loaded).
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 11:12 AM, JumpStart <
> > >> geoff.callender.jumpst...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Are you sure it’s 5.4.0? I’m running 5.4.0 in JumpStart
> > >>>
> > >>>http://jumpstart.doublenegative.com.au/jumpstart7/
> > >>>
> > >>> Can you point to the problem there?
> > >>>
> > >>> Also, in a production site I’m running its last predecessor,
> > 5.4-beta-35,
> > >>> with AJAX Forms and Zones throughout without a problem.
> > >>>
> > >>> Can you be more specific?
> > >>>
> > >>> Geoff
> > >>>
> >  On 11 Feb 2016, at 4:42 PM, Ilya Obshadko 
> > >>> wrote:
> > 
> >  Just tried to switch to 5.4 release from 5.4-beta6 (which I've been
> > >>> using
> >  for over a year).
> > 
> >  At least AJAX forms are seriously broken.
> > 
> >  The most critical issue is
> > >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAP5-2391
> >  (which is marked as 'Solved', but actually far from being solved).
> > 
> >  There's a number of other glitches, but this one is the worst.
> Setting
> >  *simpleIds* to true for zones doesn't help much, as this results in
> > >>> other
> >  problems in complex forms.
> > 
> >  Are there any other workarounds?
> > 
> > 
> >  On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 12:53 PM, Basile Chandesris 
> > >>> wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I noticed that the 'Tapestry 5.4 Announce' is not available on
> Apache
> > > www-announce mailing list.
> > >
> > >
> > > The Apache News Round-up: week ending 8 January 2016:
> > >
> > >>>
> >
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-announce/201601.mbox/browser
> > >
> > > https://blogs.apache.org/
> > > https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/search?q=tapestry
> > >
> > > regards,
> > > Basile
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  --
> >  Ilya Obshadko
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> -
> > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org
> > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Ilya Obshadko
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Ilya Obshadko
> >
> >
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> >
> >
>
>
> --
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>

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Tapestry 5.4

[Ilya Obshadko]

FormFragments are inside a loop.

On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 5:12 PM, JumpStart <
geoff.callender.jumpst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> How does your code differ from JumpStart’s Wizard Using Form Fragments
> example?
>
>
> http://jumpstart.doublenegative.com.au/jumpstart7/examples/wizard/usingformfragments/$N/$N
>
> Geoff
>
> > On 11 Feb 2016, at 10:55 PM, Ilya Obshadko 
> wrote:
> >
> > Just found another issue: it throws validation errors for a form fragment
> > that's hidden during form submission:
> > https://monosnap.com/file/t9Hh48KeLUOBIha8PLPvGrOu29TUnn.png
> >
> > This is very frustrating. All complex things that were working out of the
> > box now seem to be broken in unexpected places.
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 4:13 PM, Ilya Obshadko 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I'll try to gather more evidence.
> >>
> >> From the first glance, validation messages don't show up at all without
> >> setting *simpleIds=true* (as per TAP-2391). Setting *simpleIds=true*
> >> helps to fix this for simple forms, but completely breaks more complex
> ones
> >> (when validated fields are inside AjaxFormLoop, for example).
> >>
> >> Looks like something was also changed in the way AjaxFormLoop submission
> >> is processed, and now I'm getting NPEs in places that work just fine on
> >> beta6.
> >>
> >> Also, there are occasional Bootstrap JS errors (something like
> 'popover.js
> >> requires tooltip.js to work'; needless to say that both are loaded).
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 11:12 AM, JumpStart <
> >> geoff.callender.jumpst...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Are you sure it’s 5.4.0? I’m running 5.4.0 in JumpStart
> >>>
> >>>http://jumpstart.doublenegative.com.au/jumpstart7/
> >>>
> >>> Can you point to the problem there?
> >>>
> >>> Also, in a production site I’m running its last predecessor,
> 5.4-beta-35,
> >>> with AJAX Forms and Zones throughout without a problem.
> >>>
> >>> Can you be more specific?
> >>>
> >>> Geoff
> >>>
>  On 11 Feb 2016, at 4:42 PM, Ilya Obshadko 
> >>> wrote:
> 
>  Just tried to switch to 5.4 release from 5.4-beta6 (which I've been
> >>> using
>  for over a year).
> 
>  At least AJAX forms are seriously broken.
> 
>  The most critical issue is
> >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAP5-2391
>  (which is marked as 'Solved', but actually far from being solved).
> 
>  There's a number of other glitches, but this one is the worst. Setting
>  *simpleIds* to true for zones doesn't help much, as this results in
> >>> other
>  problems in complex forms.
> 
>  Are there any other workarounds?
> 
> 
>  On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 12:53 PM, Basile Chandesris 
> >>> wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > I noticed that the 'Tapestry 5.4 Announce' is not available on Apache
> > www-announce mailing list.
> >
> >
> > The Apache News Round-up: week ending 8 January 2016:
> >
> >>>
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-announce/201601.mbox/browser
> >
> > https://blogs.apache.org/
> > https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/search?q=tapestry
> >
> > regards,
> > Basile
> >
> 
> 
> 
>  --
>  Ilya Obshadko
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -
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> >>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Ilya Obshadko
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Ilya Obshadko
>
>
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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Tapestry 5.4

[JumpStart]

How does your code differ from JumpStart’s Wizard Using Form Fragments example?


http://jumpstart.doublenegative.com.au/jumpstart7/examples/wizard/usingformfragments/$N/$N

Geoff

> On 11 Feb 2016, at 10:55 PM, Ilya Obshadko  wrote:
> 
> Just found another issue: it throws validation errors for a form fragment
> that's hidden during form submission:
> https://monosnap.com/file/t9Hh48KeLUOBIha8PLPvGrOu29TUnn.png
> 
> This is very frustrating. All complex things that were working out of the
> box now seem to be broken in unexpected places.
> 
> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 4:13 PM, Ilya Obshadko 
> wrote:
> 
>> I'll try to gather more evidence.
>> 
>> From the first glance, validation messages don't show up at all without
>> setting *simpleIds=true* (as per TAP-2391). Setting *simpleIds=true*
>> helps to fix this for simple forms, but completely breaks more complex ones
>> (when validated fields are inside AjaxFormLoop, for example).
>> 
>> Looks like something was also changed in the way AjaxFormLoop submission
>> is processed, and now I'm getting NPEs in places that work just fine on
>> beta6.
>> 
>> Also, there are occasional Bootstrap JS errors (something like 'popover.js
>> requires tooltip.js to work'; needless to say that both are loaded).
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 11:12 AM, JumpStart <
>> geoff.callender.jumpst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Are you sure it’s 5.4.0? I’m running 5.4.0 in JumpStart
>>> 
>>>http://jumpstart.doublenegative.com.au/jumpstart7/
>>> 
>>> Can you point to the problem there?
>>> 
>>> Also, in a production site I’m running its last predecessor, 5.4-beta-35,
>>> with AJAX Forms and Zones throughout without a problem.
>>> 
>>> Can you be more specific?
>>> 
>>> Geoff
>>> 
 On 11 Feb 2016, at 4:42 PM, Ilya Obshadko 
>>> wrote:
 
 Just tried to switch to 5.4 release from 5.4-beta6 (which I've been
>>> using
 for over a year).
 
 At least AJAX forms are seriously broken.
 
 The most critical issue is
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAP5-2391
 (which is marked as 'Solved', but actually far from being solved).
 
 There's a number of other glitches, but this one is the worst. Setting
 *simpleIds* to true for zones doesn't help much, as this results in
>>> other
 problems in complex forms.
 
 Are there any other workarounds?
 
 
 On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 12:53 PM, Basile Chandesris 
>>> wrote:
 
> Hi,
> 
> I noticed that the 'Tapestry 5.4 Announce' is not available on Apache
> www-announce mailing list.
> 
> 
> The Apache News Round-up: week ending 8 January 2016:
> 
>>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-announce/201601.mbox/browser
> 
> https://blogs.apache.org/
> https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/search?q=tapestry
> 
> regards,
> Basile
> 
 
 
 
 --
 Ilya Obshadko
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Ilya Obshadko
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Ilya Obshadko


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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Tapestry 5.4

[Ilya Obshadko]

Just found another issue: it throws validation errors for a form fragment
that's hidden during form submission:
https://monosnap.com/file/t9Hh48KeLUOBIha8PLPvGrOu29TUnn.png

This is very frustrating. All complex things that were working out of the
box now seem to be broken in unexpected places.

On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 4:13 PM, Ilya Obshadko 
wrote:

> I'll try to gather more evidence.
>
> From the first glance, validation messages don't show up at all without
> setting *simpleIds=true* (as per TAP-2391). Setting *simpleIds=true*
> helps to fix this for simple forms, but completely breaks more complex ones
> (when validated fields are inside AjaxFormLoop, for example).
>
> Looks like something was also changed in the way AjaxFormLoop submission
> is processed, and now I'm getting NPEs in places that work just fine on
> beta6.
>
> Also, there are occasional Bootstrap JS errors (something like 'popover.js
> requires tooltip.js to work'; needless to say that both are loaded).
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 11:12 AM, JumpStart <
> geoff.callender.jumpst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Are you sure it’s 5.4.0? I’m running 5.4.0 in JumpStart
>>
>> http://jumpstart.doublenegative.com.au/jumpstart7/
>>
>> Can you point to the problem there?
>>
>> Also, in a production site I’m running its last predecessor, 5.4-beta-35,
>> with AJAX Forms and Zones throughout without a problem.
>>
>> Can you be more specific?
>>
>> Geoff
>>
>> > On 11 Feb 2016, at 4:42 PM, Ilya Obshadko 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Just tried to switch to 5.4 release from 5.4-beta6 (which I've been
>> using
>> > for over a year).
>> >
>> > At least AJAX forms are seriously broken.
>> >
>> > The most critical issue is
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAP5-2391
>> > (which is marked as 'Solved', but actually far from being solved).
>> >
>> > There's a number of other glitches, but this one is the worst. Setting
>> > *simpleIds* to true for zones doesn't help much, as this results in
>> other
>> > problems in complex forms.
>> >
>> > Are there any other workarounds?
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 12:53 PM, Basile Chandesris 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> I noticed that the 'Tapestry 5.4 Announce' is not available on Apache
>> >> www-announce mailing list.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> The Apache News Round-up: week ending 8 January 2016:
>> >>
>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-announce/201601.mbox/browser
>> >>
>> >> https://blogs.apache.org/
>> >> https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/search?q=tapestry
>> >>
>> >> regards,
>> >> Basile
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Ilya Obshadko
>>
>>
>> -
>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org
>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Ilya Obshadko
>
>


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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Tapestry 5.4

[Ilya Obshadko]

I'll try to gather more evidence.

>From the first glance, validation messages don't show up at all without
setting *simpleIds=true* (as per TAP-2391). Setting *simpleIds=true* helps
to fix this for simple forms, but completely breaks more complex ones (when
validated fields are inside AjaxFormLoop, for example).

Looks like something was also changed in the way AjaxFormLoop submission is
processed, and now I'm getting NPEs in places that work just fine on beta6.

Also, there are occasional Bootstrap JS errors (something like 'popover.js
requires tooltip.js to work'; needless to say that both are loaded).




On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 11:12 AM, JumpStart <
geoff.callender.jumpst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Are you sure it’s 5.4.0? I’m running 5.4.0 in JumpStart
>
> http://jumpstart.doublenegative.com.au/jumpstart7/
>
> Can you point to the problem there?
>
> Also, in a production site I’m running its last predecessor, 5.4-beta-35,
> with AJAX Forms and Zones throughout without a problem.
>
> Can you be more specific?
>
> Geoff
>
> > On 11 Feb 2016, at 4:42 PM, Ilya Obshadko 
> wrote:
> >
> > Just tried to switch to 5.4 release from 5.4-beta6 (which I've been using
> > for over a year).
> >
> > At least AJAX forms are seriously broken.
> >
> > The most critical issue is
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAP5-2391
> > (which is marked as 'Solved', but actually far from being solved).
> >
> > There's a number of other glitches, but this one is the worst. Setting
> > *simpleIds* to true for zones doesn't help much, as this results in other
> > problems in complex forms.
> >
> > Are there any other workarounds?
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 12:53 PM, Basile Chandesris 
> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I noticed that the 'Tapestry 5.4 Announce' is not available on Apache
> >> www-announce mailing list.
> >>
> >>
> >> The Apache News Round-up: week ending 8 January 2016:
> >>
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-announce/201601.mbox/browser
> >>
> >> https://blogs.apache.org/
> >> https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/search?q=tapestry
> >>
> >> regards,
> >> Basile
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Ilya Obshadko
>
>
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>
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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Tapestry 5.4

[JumpStart]

Are you sure it’s 5.4.0? I’m running 5.4.0 in JumpStart 

http://jumpstart.doublenegative.com.au/jumpstart7/

Can you point to the problem there?

Also, in a production site I’m running its last predecessor, 5.4-beta-35, with 
AJAX Forms and Zones throughout without a problem.

Can you be more specific?

Geoff

> On 11 Feb 2016, at 4:42 PM, Ilya Obshadko  wrote:
> 
> Just tried to switch to 5.4 release from 5.4-beta6 (which I've been using
> for over a year).
> 
> At least AJAX forms are seriously broken.
> 
> The most critical issue is https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAP5-2391
> (which is marked as 'Solved', but actually far from being solved).
> 
> There's a number of other glitches, but this one is the worst. Setting
> *simpleIds* to true for zones doesn't help much, as this results in other
> problems in complex forms.
> 
> Are there any other workarounds?
> 
> 
> On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 12:53 PM, Basile Chandesris  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I noticed that the 'Tapestry 5.4 Announce' is not available on Apache
>> www-announce mailing list.
>> 
>> 
>> The Apache News Round-up: week ending 8 January 2016:
>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-announce/201601.mbox/browser
>> 
>> https://blogs.apache.org/
>> https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/search?q=tapestry
>> 
>> regards,
>> Basile
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Ilya Obshadko


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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Tapestry 5.4

[Ilya Obshadko]

Just tried to switch to 5.4 release from 5.4-beta6 (which I've been using
for over a year).

At least AJAX forms are seriously broken.

The most critical issue is https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAP5-2391
(which is marked as 'Solved', but actually far from being solved).

There's a number of other glitches, but this one is the worst. Setting
*simpleIds* to true for zones doesn't help much, as this results in other
problems in complex forms.

Are there any other workarounds?


On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 12:53 PM, Basile Chandesris  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I noticed that the 'Tapestry 5.4 Announce' is not available on Apache
> www-announce mailing list.
>
>
> The Apache News Round-up: week ending 8 January 2016:
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-announce/201601.mbox/browser
>
> https://blogs.apache.org/
> https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/search?q=tapestry
>
> regards,
> Basile
>



-- 
Ilya Obshadko

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Tapestry 5.4

[Basile Chandesris]

Hi,

I noticed that the 'Tapestry 5.4 Announce' is not available on Apache 
www-announce mailing list.



The Apache News Round-up: week ending 8 January 2016:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-announce/201601.mbox/browser

https://blogs.apache.org/
https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/search?q=tapestry

regards,
Basile

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Tapestry 5.4

[Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo]

On Tue, 29 Dec 2015 12:28:21 -0200, Barry Books  wrote:


Finished is important.


Indeed. In addition, I think we could say this was the release in which  
non-Howard committers have done the most work so far.


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Tapestry, Java and Hibernate consultant and developer
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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Tapestry 5.4

[Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo]

On Thu, 24 Dec 2015 19:02:33 -0200, JT  wrote:


No concerns. Just my two cents opinion.


With no details at all, I'm sorry, I have no idea what you're trying to do  
by providing this opinion. It's just like me saying "JT sucks" (just an  
example, I don't know you, so I don't have an opinion about you) and  
stopping at that.



But does this release support all platform that 5.3.x support?


Yes. What do you mean by 'platform'?

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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Tapestry 5.4

[Barry Books]

Finished is important.

Thanks

On Friday, December 25, 2015, Kalle Korhonen 
wrote:

> No, T5.4 was still firmly headed by Howard. He created the first T5.4
> branch over three years (see for example
> http://tapestryjava.blogspot.com/2012/10/zeroing-in-on-tapestry-54.html)
> and you can see the results of his mastermind everywhere in the T5.4 code.
> I guess you could say it was the first release not finished by Howard.
>
> Kalle
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 10:23 AM, Alex Kotchnev  > wrote:
>
> > Pretty epic, congrats to all who contributed and participated ! Most
> > notably, this seems like the first Tapestry release that was not headed
> by
> > Howard (of course, I don't have any stats to back that up).
> >
> > Cheers - Alex K
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 8:48 PM, Bob Harner  > wrote:
> >
> > > The Apache Tapestry developers are proud to announce that Tapestry 5.4,
> > > a long-awaited major release, is now available for immediate download:
> > >
> > > http://tapestry.apache.org/download
> > >
> > > Tapestry 5.4 represents a tremendous effort by a large number of
> > > people, and includes almost 200 enhancements and over 300 bug fixes.
> > > Full details are in the release notes, but here are a few highlights:
> > >
> > > * A JavaScript abstraction layer that removes Tapestry's dependence
> > > on Prototype and lets you swap in jQuery (or potentially other
> > > JavaScript framewords) instead.
> > >
> > > * JavaScript modules based on RequireJS
> > >
> > > * A new module, tapestry-webresources, which provides support for
> > > automatically compiling CoffeeScript into JavaScript and Less into
> > > CSS, and for minimizing CSS and JavaScript. And, best of all, this
> > > processing takes place at runtime.
> > >
> > > * Greatly improved asset caching based on the checksums of file
> > > contents, to intelligently cache assets like images and CSS only
> > > until their content changes.
> > >
> > > * The adoption of Bootstrap 3 CSS styling by default, with built-in
> > > glyphicon support.
> > >
> > > ... and many dozens of other significant changes.
> > >
> > > Despite all the changes, Tapestry 5.4 is still mostly a drop-in
> > replacement
> > > for
> > > 5.3 users, with the caveat that the adoption of Bootstrap 3 CSS may
> > require
> > > some
> > > CSS tweaks if you're not already using Bootstrap 3.
> > >
> > > Please see https://tapestry.apache.org/release-notes-54.html for a
> full
> > > list of
> > > changes and upgrade instructions.
> > >
> >
>

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Tapestry 5.4

[Kalle Korhonen]

No, T5.4 was still firmly headed by Howard. He created the first T5.4
branch over three years (see for example
http://tapestryjava.blogspot.com/2012/10/zeroing-in-on-tapestry-54.html)
and you can see the results of his mastermind everywhere in the T5.4 code.
I guess you could say it was the first release not finished by Howard.

Kalle


On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 10:23 AM, Alex Kotchnev  wrote:

> Pretty epic, congrats to all who contributed and participated ! Most
> notably, this seems like the first Tapestry release that was not headed by
> Howard (of course, I don't have any stats to back that up).
>
> Cheers - Alex K
>
> On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 8:48 PM, Bob Harner  wrote:
>
> > The Apache Tapestry developers are proud to announce that Tapestry 5.4,
> > a long-awaited major release, is now available for immediate download:
> >
> > http://tapestry.apache.org/download
> >
> > Tapestry 5.4 represents a tremendous effort by a large number of
> > people, and includes almost 200 enhancements and over 300 bug fixes.
> > Full details are in the release notes, but here are a few highlights:
> >
> > * A JavaScript abstraction layer that removes Tapestry's dependence
> > on Prototype and lets you swap in jQuery (or potentially other
> > JavaScript framewords) instead.
> >
> > * JavaScript modules based on RequireJS
> >
> > * A new module, tapestry-webresources, which provides support for
> > automatically compiling CoffeeScript into JavaScript and Less into
> > CSS, and for minimizing CSS and JavaScript. And, best of all, this
> > processing takes place at runtime.
> >
> > * Greatly improved asset caching based on the checksums of file
> > contents, to intelligently cache assets like images and CSS only
> > until their content changes.
> >
> > * The adoption of Bootstrap 3 CSS styling by default, with built-in
> > glyphicon support.
> >
> > ... and many dozens of other significant changes.
> >
> > Despite all the changes, Tapestry 5.4 is still mostly a drop-in
> replacement
> > for
> > 5.3 users, with the caveat that the adoption of Bootstrap 3 CSS may
> require
> > some
> > CSS tweaks if you're not already using Bootstrap 3.
> >
> > Please see https://tapestry.apache.org/release-notes-54.html for a full
> > list of
> > changes and upgrade instructions.
> >
>

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Tapestry 5.4

[Svein-Erik Løken]

I think 5.4 is a fantastic release:-)

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On Fri, Dec 25, 2015 at 4:08 AM -0800, "Carlos Montero Canabal [via Apache 
Tapestry Mailing List Archives]" 
mailto:ml-node+s1045711n5731596...@n5.nabble.com>>
 wrote:

Hi Tapestry team.

I have to give us the congratulations for the release. I'm working with 
tapestry from the Tapestry 5.1.0.5 version. This 5.4 release is a big change 
(javascript) and I have to learn a lot of interesting new concepts.  Thank you 
so much and keep up the good work.

Carlos Montero

> El 24/12/2015, a las 22:02, JT <[hidden 
> email]> escribió:
>
> No concerns. Just my two cents opinion. But does this release support all
> platform that 5.3.x support?




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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Tapestry 5.4

[Carlos Montero Canabal]

Hi Tapestry team.

I have to give us the congratulations for the release. I’m working with 
tapestry from the Tapestry 5.1.0.5 version. This 5.4 release is a big change 
(javascript) and I have to learn a lot of interesting new concepts.  Thank you 
so much and keep up the good work.

Carlos Montero

> El 24/12/2015, a las 22:02, JT  escribió:
> 
> No concerns. Just my two cents opinion. But does this release support all
> platform that 5.3.x support?

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Tapestry 5.4

[JT]

No concerns. Just my two cents opinion. But does this release support all
platform that 5.3.x support?
On Dec 24, 2015 9:58 PM, "Alex Kotchnev"  wrote:

> JT - why do you say that ? Did you have concerns with the release that were
> not addressed ? Is it the features in the release ?
>
> In any case, it would be useful to have some further details.
>
> Cheers - Alex K
>
> On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 1:43 PM, JT  wrote:
>
> > Worst release ever.
> > On Dec 23, 2015 2:48 AM, "Bob Harner"  wrote:
> >
> > > The Apache Tapestry developers are proud to announce that Tapestry 5.4,
> > > a long-awaited major release, is now available for immediate download:
> > >
> > > http://tapestry.apache.org/download
> > >
> > > Tapestry 5.4 represents a tremendous effort by a large number of
> > > people, and includes almost 200 enhancements and over 300 bug fixes.
> > > Full details are in the release notes, but here are a few highlights:
> > >
> > > * A JavaScript abstraction layer that removes Tapestry's dependence
> > > on Prototype and lets you swap in jQuery (or potentially other
> > > JavaScript framewords) instead.
> > >
> > > * JavaScript modules based on RequireJS
> > >
> > > * A new module, tapestry-webresources, which provides support for
> > > automatically compiling CoffeeScript into JavaScript and Less into
> > > CSS, and for minimizing CSS and JavaScript. And, best of all, this
> > > processing takes place at runtime.
> > >
> > > * Greatly improved asset caching based on the checksums of file
> > > contents, to intelligently cache assets like images and CSS only
> > > until their content changes.
> > >
> > > * The adoption of Bootstrap 3 CSS styling by default, with built-in
> > > glyphicon support.
> > >
> > > ... and many dozens of other significant changes.
> > >
> > > Despite all the changes, Tapestry 5.4 is still mostly a drop-in
> > replacement
> > > for
> > > 5.3 users, with the caveat that the adoption of Bootstrap 3 CSS may
> > require
> > > some
> > > CSS tweaks if you're not already using Bootstrap 3.
> > >
> > > Please see https://tapestry.apache.org/release-notes-54.html for a
> full
> > > list of
> > > changes and upgrade instructions.
> > >
> >
>

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Tapestry 5.4

[Alex Kotchnev]

JT - why do you say that ? Did you have concerns with the release that were
not addressed ? Is it the features in the release ?

In any case, it would be useful to have some further details.

Cheers - Alex K

On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 1:43 PM, JT  wrote:

> Worst release ever.
> On Dec 23, 2015 2:48 AM, "Bob Harner"  wrote:
>
> > The Apache Tapestry developers are proud to announce that Tapestry 5.4,
> > a long-awaited major release, is now available for immediate download:
> >
> > http://tapestry.apache.org/download
> >
> > Tapestry 5.4 represents a tremendous effort by a large number of
> > people, and includes almost 200 enhancements and over 300 bug fixes.
> > Full details are in the release notes, but here are a few highlights:
> >
> > * A JavaScript abstraction layer that removes Tapestry's dependence
> > on Prototype and lets you swap in jQuery (or potentially other
> > JavaScript framewords) instead.
> >
> > * JavaScript modules based on RequireJS
> >
> > * A new module, tapestry-webresources, which provides support for
> > automatically compiling CoffeeScript into JavaScript and Less into
> > CSS, and for minimizing CSS and JavaScript. And, best of all, this
> > processing takes place at runtime.
> >
> > * Greatly improved asset caching based on the checksums of file
> > contents, to intelligently cache assets like images and CSS only
> > until their content changes.
> >
> > * The adoption of Bootstrap 3 CSS styling by default, with built-in
> > glyphicon support.
> >
> > ... and many dozens of other significant changes.
> >
> > Despite all the changes, Tapestry 5.4 is still mostly a drop-in
> replacement
> > for
> > 5.3 users, with the caveat that the adoption of Bootstrap 3 CSS may
> require
> > some
> > CSS tweaks if you're not already using Bootstrap 3.
> >
> > Please see https://tapestry.apache.org/release-notes-54.html for a full
> > list of
> > changes and upgrade instructions.
> >
>

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Tapestry 5.4

[JT]

Worst release ever.
On Dec 23, 2015 2:48 AM, "Bob Harner"  wrote:

> The Apache Tapestry developers are proud to announce that Tapestry 5.4,
> a long-awaited major release, is now available for immediate download:
>
> http://tapestry.apache.org/download
>
> Tapestry 5.4 represents a tremendous effort by a large number of
> people, and includes almost 200 enhancements and over 300 bug fixes.
> Full details are in the release notes, but here are a few highlights:
>
> * A JavaScript abstraction layer that removes Tapestry's dependence
> on Prototype and lets you swap in jQuery (or potentially other
> JavaScript framewords) instead.
>
> * JavaScript modules based on RequireJS
>
> * A new module, tapestry-webresources, which provides support for
> automatically compiling CoffeeScript into JavaScript and Less into
> CSS, and for minimizing CSS and JavaScript. And, best of all, this
> processing takes place at runtime.
>
> * Greatly improved asset caching based on the checksums of file
> contents, to intelligently cache assets like images and CSS only
> until their content changes.
>
> * The adoption of Bootstrap 3 CSS styling by default, with built-in
> glyphicon support.
>
> ... and many dozens of other significant changes.
>
> Despite all the changes, Tapestry 5.4 is still mostly a drop-in replacement
> for
> 5.3 users, with the caveat that the adoption of Bootstrap 3 CSS may require
> some
> CSS tweaks if you're not already using Bootstrap 3.
>
> Please see https://tapestry.apache.org/release-notes-54.html for a full
> list of
> changes and upgrade instructions.
>

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Tapestry 5.4

[Alex Kotchnev]

Pretty epic, congrats to all who contributed and participated ! Most
notably, this seems like the first Tapestry release that was not headed by
Howard (of course, I don't have any stats to back that up).

Cheers - Alex K

On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 8:48 PM, Bob Harner  wrote:

> The Apache Tapestry developers are proud to announce that Tapestry 5.4,
> a long-awaited major release, is now available for immediate download:
>
> http://tapestry.apache.org/download
>
> Tapestry 5.4 represents a tremendous effort by a large number of
> people, and includes almost 200 enhancements and over 300 bug fixes.
> Full details are in the release notes, but here are a few highlights:
>
> * A JavaScript abstraction layer that removes Tapestry's dependence
> on Prototype and lets you swap in jQuery (or potentially other
> JavaScript framewords) instead.
>
> * JavaScript modules based on RequireJS
>
> * A new module, tapestry-webresources, which provides support for
> automatically compiling CoffeeScript into JavaScript and Less into
> CSS, and for minimizing CSS and JavaScript. And, best of all, this
> processing takes place at runtime.
>
> * Greatly improved asset caching based on the checksums of file
> contents, to intelligently cache assets like images and CSS only
> until their content changes.
>
> * The adoption of Bootstrap 3 CSS styling by default, with built-in
> glyphicon support.
>
> ... and many dozens of other significant changes.
>
> Despite all the changes, Tapestry 5.4 is still mostly a drop-in replacement
> for
> 5.3 users, with the caveat that the adoption of Bootstrap 3 CSS may require
> some
> CSS tweaks if you're not already using Bootstrap 3.
>
> Please see https://tapestry.apache.org/release-notes-54.html for a full
> list of
> changes and upgrade instructions.
>

[ANNOUNCE] Apache Tapestry 5.4

[Bob Harner]

The Apache Tapestry developers are proud to announce that Tapestry 5.4,
a long-awaited major release, is now available for immediate download:

http://tapestry.apache.org/download

Tapestry 5.4 represents a tremendous effort by a large number of
people, and includes almost 200 enhancements and over 300 bug fixes.
Full details are in the release notes, but here are a few highlights:

* A JavaScript abstraction layer that removes Tapestry's dependence
on Prototype and lets you swap in jQuery (or potentially other
JavaScript framewords) instead.

* JavaScript modules based on RequireJS

* A new module, tapestry-webresources, which provides support for
automatically compiling CoffeeScript into JavaScript and Less into
CSS, and for minimizing CSS and JavaScript. And, best of all, this
processing takes place at runtime.

* Greatly improved asset caching based on the checksums of file
contents, to intelligently cache assets like images and CSS only
until their content changes.

* The adoption of Bootstrap 3 CSS styling by default, with built-in
glyphicon support.

... and many dozens of other significant changes.

Despite all the changes, Tapestry 5.4 is still mostly a drop-in replacement
for
5.3 users, with the caveat that the adoption of Bootstrap 3 CSS may require
some
CSS tweaks if you're not already using Bootstrap 3.

Please see https://tapestry.apache.org/release-notes-54.html for a full
list of
changes and upgrade instructions.