RoR
I have a different IM client now so the mails don't annoy me anymore, I wasnt really using this email address. Still id love to get unsubscribed tho :) Anyway, I was really suprised how easy it is to setup a web app with RoR. The best parts are database mapping and not losing time deploying. The documentation is a bit sparse but that was the same with Tapestry when I stopped using it about a year ago. So... Try Ruby On Rails(RoR), an MVC framework based on the language Ruby! Write web applications faster than you ever did! http://www.rubyonrails.org till next week. _ Open your shared folders wherever you are thanks to the new Messenger version! http://imagine-msn.com/minisites/messenger/default.aspx?locale=nl-be - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: RoR
Konstantin Ignatyev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 03/08/2006 19:13:04: He is not the first person having problem with unsubscribe functionality. It is better be fixed. You are assuming that it is broken, given the number of lists and the number of subscribers Apache hosts *almost* no one is having problems with this. I think it is much more likely that the change of addresses which is causing some confusion. Things like this: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#Tapestry don't help. I will change that. d. *** The information in this e-mail is confidential and for use by the addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient please delete the message from your computer. You may not copy or forward it or use or disclose its contents to any other person. As Internet communications are capable of data corruption Student Loans Company Limited does not accept any responsibility for changes made to this message after it was sent. For this reason it may be inappropriate to rely on advice or opinions contained in an e-mail without obtaining written confirmation of it. Neither Student Loans Company Limited or the sender accepts any liability or responsibility for viruses as it is your responsibility to scan attachments (if any). Opinions and views expressed in this e-mail are those of the sender and may not reflect the opinions and views of The Student Loans Company Limited. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: RoR
As much as I agree that Wim V was flaming, I also see the complete meaning of the email. I originally came from a CGI environment where I used RPG on an iSeries (say AS/400) to do web pages using simple text templates that had sections and variable pieces of data to be replaced at runtime (similar to http://smarty.php.net/). Some portions of this were more laborious than I would have liked so I moved to the JSF world when I saw the event driven paradigm working with web controls - I loved it! I then came across some things in JSF that just didn't work for my programming environment (i.e. graphic developers had to know JSF UI tags to develop my pages and that just didn't cut it - I know things have changed since then, but this was two years ago). I then moved to Tapestry specifically because it allowed my ui person to develop like they had before just with some additional attributes in their HTML - works great for that, and I also loved the statement of purpose behind Tapestry. I don't know if my problem is with Tapestry or more with the Java community, but you nearly have to be specialized Java programmer in many areas (Hivemind, Tapestry v3 to v4 differences, bad documentation, making Hibernate work - Tapernate lacks documentation, etc, etc) to be able to easily build web applications in Tapestry. Want an example? Last week when I had 2 hours to do some catchup Tapestry programming I had a need to build and place a cookie on the clients machine for affiliate referral reasons. I searched for over an hour and didn't make any progress other than to find out of date examples or examples that were incredibly incomplete that would require a lot more questions to this users list. Part of the reason it took so long is because the new Tapestry site is very confusing to navigate - I will save those comments for another thread. Here is what I know... ---Where you _cant_ find how to do cookies in Tapestry--- 1. http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry4/UsersGuide/state.html 2. http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry4/tapestry-annotations/index.html 3. http://wiki.apache.org/tapestry/HowTos 4. http://wiki.apache.org/tapestry/FindPage?action=fullsearchtitlesearch=0val ue=cookiecontext=160 5. http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry4/UsersGuide/index.html (no where in the user guide, I checked each page manually because you can't search it) Some possibilities, but they are either incomplete (i.e. only hivemind and zero Java) or they are old (i.e. Tapestry 3)... http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-tapestry-user/200603.mbox/% [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-tapestry-user/200510.mbox/% [EMAIL PROTECTED] Traffic on the Tapestry list would be cut IN HALF if the documentation was up to par and organized well. I WANT to help with that, but I get so confused once into the yuck of it all that I feel my limited view would give flawed documentation, so I rule myself out as a documenter and instead can just provide topical areas that are in desperate need of documentation. In closing, RoR or going back to JSF is looking ever more appealing because I didn't have this much complication in JSF and I have yet to hear show stopping things about RoR. Tapestry's lack of documentation IS A SHOWSTOPPER! Thanks for listening, Aaron Bartell -Original Message- From: Wim V [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 12:31 AM To: users@tapestry.apache.org Subject: RoR Im tired of getting mails after I unsubscribed from this mailing list, so I'm simply gonna abuse it. Tired of using hibernate? Tired of having to config all the time? Tired of deploying? Need something that comes as a whole package? Tired of Java and Tapestry verboseness? Tired of this damn mailing list? Try Ruby On Rails, an MVC framework based on the language Ruby! Write web applications faster than you ever did! a href=http://www.rubyonrails.org;http://www.rubyonrails.org/a _ Open your shared folders wherever you are thanks to the new Messenger version! http://imagine-msn.com/minisites/messenger/default.aspx?locale=nl-be - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: RoR
He is not the first person having problem with unsubscribe functionality. It is better be fixed. --- Mark Stang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think we should all reply to him. -Original Message- From: Wim V [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 8/3/2006 11:43 AM To: users@tapestry.apache.org Subject: Re: RoR The problem is plain and simple: This mailing list keeps pumping messages into my inbox while I want it to stop. I already tried to unsubscribe multiple times but it doesn't seem to be working. I'll keep posting the same email once a week or so till I get either removed or banned, so dont bother replying. thx in advance Konstantin Ignatyev PS: If this is a typical day on planet earth, humans will add fifteen million tons of carbon to the atmosphere, destroy 115 square miles of tropical rainforest, create seventy-two miles of desert, eliminate between forty to one hundred species, erode seventy-one million tons of topsoil, add 2,700 tons of CFCs to the stratosphere, and increase their population by 263,000 Bowers, C.A. The Culture of Denial: Why the Environmental Movement Needs a Strategy for Reforming Universities and Public Schools. New York: State University of New York Press, 1997: (4) (5) (p.206) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RoR
On 8/3/06, albartell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In closing, RoR or going back to JSF is looking ever more appealing because I didn't have this much complication in JSF and I have yet to hear show stopping things about RoR. Tapestry's lack of documentation IS A SHOWSTOPPER! Check out the new 4.1 documentation. Jesse did a great work also this mailing list contains alot of help... I bet you would have got answers within hours about your cookies issue. Tapestry's main strength will be in evolving, maintaining and scaling your app. I'm not sure how good RoR, JSF or any other will do. Also yes making hibernate work is not an easy task but IMO really worth it... I'm always surprised to see how well our website scales and performs. And maintaining some nice Criteria queries is soo much better than long and complex SQL queries. -- Henri Dupre Actualis Center
RoR
Im tired of getting mails after I unsubscribed from this mailing list, so I'm simply gonna abuse it. Tired of using hibernate? Tired of having to config all the time? Tired of deploying? Need something that comes as a whole package? Tired of Java and Tapestry verboseness? Tired of this damn mailing list? Try Ruby On Rails, an MVC framework based on the language Ruby! Write web applications faster than you ever did! a href=http://www.rubyonrails.org;http://www.rubyonrails.org/a _ Open your shared folders wherever you are thanks to the new Messenger version! http://imagine-msn.com/minisites/messenger/default.aspx?locale=nl-be - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
