Re: Split mailing list for T5/T4,4.1

2007-06-20 Thread Patrick Yip

-1

On 6/19/07, Peter Schröder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


i stopped reading the mailing list because of all the topics of T4.1 and
T5...

it would be a minimal afford for those who want to read all messages of
all lists.
but it is a time consuming job to find T4 related topics...

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Igor Drobiazko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gesendet: Freitag, 15. Juni 2007 17:22
An: Tapestry users
Betreff: Re: Split mailing list for T5/T4,4.1

I'm interested in both t4 and t5. For me it would be no problem to
subscribe
to both lists. But as Jesse already mentioned in the thread before,
splitting the list would fracture the community.

I'm pretty sure there are a lot of users reading but not writing to the
list. Seeing the list growing up day by day they will be encouraged to
participate. Splitting the list would give an impression that the tapestry
community is too small.


On 6/15/07, Holger Stolzenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The fact (mentioned earlier) is that if someone is interessted in T4 and
> T5 he could subscribe to both lists.
>
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: Renat Zubairov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Gesendet: Freitag, 15. Juni 2007 16:26
> An: Tapestry users
> Betreff: Re: Split mailing list for T5/T4,4.1
>
> What if developers are working on the production version (fixing bugs)
and
> developing new version at the same time? I guess that's the most common
> situation for in all companies that were using Tapestry for a while.
>
> Renat
>
> On 15/06/07, #Cyrille37# <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Daniel Jue a écrit :
> > > I say we can split it.  Make the original list for T3 and T4x users,
> > > and make a new one for T5.  Interested parties can subscribe to
both.
> > > We can't guarantee that new subscribers to the current setup will
> > > prepend the correct version in the subject line.  (Although it has
> > > worked pretty well so far!)
> >
> > I think a split could be a proper way.
> > a T4 list for production , a T5 list for developpers.
> >
> > my 2 cents.
> > cyrille
> > >
> > > Daniel
> > >
> > > On 6/14/07, Bruce Petro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >> This sounds great - although you could also do multiple targets
> > >> which could just prepend a key to all subjects so people could then
> > >> pick what they want via that key word designation.
> > >>
> > >> Sent from my GoodLink synchronized handheld (www.good.com)
> > >>
> > >>  -Original Message-
> > >> From:   Holger Stolzenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >> Sent:   Thursday, June 14, 2007 03:40 AM Eastern Standard Time
> > >> To: Tapestry users
> > >> Subject:Split mailing list for T5/T4,4.1
> > >>
> > >> Hey guys,
> > >>
> > >> I just aksed myself if it would make sense to split up the mailing
> > >> list into 2 lists. For me, only T4,T4.1 topics are relevat at the
> > >> moment. Everyday I have to filter out about let me say 80% of the
> > >> mails because they are T5 related. Thats a lot of overhead.
> > >>
> > >> How do you all think about it?
> > >>
> > >> Mit lieben Grüßen aus dem eWerk
> > >>
> > >>   |  Holger Stolzenberg
> > >>   |  Softwareentwickler
> > >>   |
> > >>   |  Geschäftsführer:
> > >>   |  Frank Richter, Erik Wende, Hendrik Schubert
> > >>   |
> > >>   |  eWerk IT GmbH
> > >>   |  Markt 16
> > >>   |  Leipzig 04109
> > >>   |  http://www.ewerk.com
> > >>   |  HRB 9065, AG Leipzig
> > >>   |  Hauptniederlassung Leipzig
> > >>   |
> > >>   |  fon +49.341.4 26 49-0
> > >>   |  fax +49.341.4 26 49-88
> > >>   |  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>   |
> > >>   |  Support:
> > >>   |  fon 0700 CALLME24 (0700 22556324)
> > >>   |  fax 0700 CALLME24 (0700 22556324)
> > >>   |
> > >>   | Auskünfte und Angebote per Mail
> > >>   | sind freibleibend und unverbindlich.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > -
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> >
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AW: Split mailing list for T5/T4,4.1

2007-06-19 Thread Peter Schröder
i stopped reading the mailing list because of all the topics of T4.1 and T5...

it would be a minimal afford for those who want to read all messages of all 
lists.
but it is a time consuming job to find T4 related topics... 

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Igor Drobiazko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Gesendet: Freitag, 15. Juni 2007 17:22
An: Tapestry users
Betreff: Re: Split mailing list for T5/T4,4.1

I'm interested in both t4 and t5. For me it would be no problem to subscribe
to both lists. But as Jesse already mentioned in the thread before,
splitting the list would fracture the community.

I'm pretty sure there are a lot of users reading but not writing to the
list. Seeing the list growing up day by day they will be encouraged to
participate. Splitting the list would give an impression that the tapestry
community is too small.


On 6/15/07, Holger Stolzenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The fact (mentioned earlier) is that if someone is interessted in T4 and
> T5 he could subscribe to both lists.
>
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: Renat Zubairov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Gesendet: Freitag, 15. Juni 2007 16:26
> An: Tapestry users
> Betreff: Re: Split mailing list for T5/T4,4.1
>
> What if developers are working on the production version (fixing bugs) and
> developing new version at the same time? I guess that's the most common
> situation for in all companies that were using Tapestry for a while.
>
> Renat
>
> On 15/06/07, #Cyrille37# <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Daniel Jue a écrit :
> > > I say we can split it.  Make the original list for T3 and T4x users,
> > > and make a new one for T5.  Interested parties can subscribe to both.
> > > We can't guarantee that new subscribers to the current setup will
> > > prepend the correct version in the subject line.  (Although it has
> > > worked pretty well so far!)
> >
> > I think a split could be a proper way.
> > a T4 list for production , a T5 list for developpers.
> >
> > my 2 cents.
> > cyrille
> > >
> > > Daniel
> > >
> > > On 6/14/07, Bruce Petro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >> This sounds great - although you could also do multiple targets
> > >> which could just prepend a key to all subjects so people could then
> > >> pick what they want via that key word designation.
> > >>
> > >> Sent from my GoodLink synchronized handheld (www.good.com)
> > >>
> > >>  -Original Message-
> > >> From:   Holger Stolzenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >> Sent:   Thursday, June 14, 2007 03:40 AM Eastern Standard Time
> > >> To: Tapestry users
> > >> Subject:Split mailing list for T5/T4,4.1
> > >>
> > >> Hey guys,
> > >>
> > >> I just aksed myself if it would make sense to split up the mailing
> > >> list into 2 lists. For me, only T4,T4.1 topics are relevat at the
> > >> moment. Everyday I have to filter out about let me say 80% of the
> > >> mails because they are T5 related. Thats a lot of overhead.
> > >>
> > >> How do you all think about it?
> > >>
> > >> Mit lieben Grüßen aus dem eWerk
> > >>
> > >>   |  Holger Stolzenberg
> > >>   |  Softwareentwickler
> > >>   |
> > >>   |  Geschäftsführer:
> > >>   |  Frank Richter, Erik Wende, Hendrik Schubert
> > >>   |
> > >>   |  eWerk IT GmbH
> > >>   |  Markt 16
> > >>   |  Leipzig 04109
> > >>   |  http://www.ewerk.com
> > >>   |  HRB 9065, AG Leipzig
> > >>   |  Hauptniederlassung Leipzig
> > >>   |
> > >>   |  fon +49.341.4 26 49-0
> > >>   |  fax +49.341.4 26 49-88
> > >>   |  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>   |
> > >>   |  Support:
> > >>   |  fon 0700 CALLME24 (0700 22556324)
> > >>   |  fax 0700 CALLME24 (0700 22556324)
> > >>   |
> > >>   | Auskünfte und Angebote per Mail
> > >>   | sind freibleibend und unverbindlich.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
>
>
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Re: Split mailing list for T5/T4,4.1

2007-06-15 Thread Igor Drobiazko

I'm interested in both t4 and t5. For me it would be no problem to subscribe
to both lists. But as Jesse already mentioned in the thread before,
splitting the list would fracture the community.

I'm pretty sure there are a lot of users reading but not writing to the
list. Seeing the list growing up day by day they will be encouraged to
participate. Splitting the list would give an impression that the tapestry
community is too small.


On 6/15/07, Holger Stolzenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


The fact (mentioned earlier) is that if someone is interessted in T4 and
T5 he could subscribe to both lists.

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Renat Zubairov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gesendet: Freitag, 15. Juni 2007 16:26
An: Tapestry users
Betreff: Re: Split mailing list for T5/T4,4.1

What if developers are working on the production version (fixing bugs) and
developing new version at the same time? I guess that's the most common
situation for in all companies that were using Tapestry for a while.

Renat

On 15/06/07, #Cyrille37# <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Daniel Jue a écrit :
> > I say we can split it.  Make the original list for T3 and T4x users,
> > and make a new one for T5.  Interested parties can subscribe to both.
> > We can't guarantee that new subscribers to the current setup will
> > prepend the correct version in the subject line.  (Although it has
> > worked pretty well so far!)
>
> I think a split could be a proper way.
> a T4 list for production , a T5 list for developpers.
>
> my 2 cents.
> cyrille
> >
> > Daniel
> >
> > On 6/14/07, Bruce Petro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> This sounds great - although you could also do multiple targets
> >> which could just prepend a key to all subjects so people could then
> >> pick what they want via that key word designation.
> >>
> >> Sent from my GoodLink synchronized handheld (www.good.com)
> >>
> >>  -Original Message-----
> >> From:   Holger Stolzenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Sent:   Thursday, June 14, 2007 03:40 AM Eastern Standard Time
> >> To: Tapestry users
> >> Subject:Split mailing list for T5/T4,4.1
> >>
> >> Hey guys,
> >>
> >> I just aksed myself if it would make sense to split up the mailing
> >> list into 2 lists. For me, only T4,T4.1 topics are relevat at the
> >> moment. Everyday I have to filter out about let me say 80% of the
> >> mails because they are T5 related. Thats a lot of overhead.
> >>
> >> How do you all think about it?
> >>
> >> Mit lieben Grüßen aus dem eWerk
> >>
> >>   |  Holger Stolzenberg
> >>   |  Softwareentwickler
> >>   |
> >>   |  Geschäftsführer:
> >>   |  Frank Richter, Erik Wende, Hendrik Schubert
> >>   |
> >>   |  eWerk IT GmbH
> >>   |  Markt 16
> >>   |  Leipzig 04109
> >>   |  http://www.ewerk.com
> >>   |  HRB 9065, AG Leipzig
> >>   |  Hauptniederlassung Leipzig
> >>   |
> >>   |  fon +49.341.4 26 49-0
> >>   |  fax +49.341.4 26 49-88
> >>   |  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>   |
> >>   |  Support:
> >>   |  fon 0700 CALLME24 (0700 22556324)
> >>   |  fax 0700 CALLME24 (0700 22556324)
> >>   |
> >>   | Auskünfte und Angebote per Mail
> >>   | sind freibleibend und unverbindlich.
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
>
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Re: Split mailing list for T5/T4,4.1

2007-06-15 Thread Jun Tsai

+1

2007/6/15, Holger Stolzenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


The fact (mentioned earlier) is that if someone is interessted in T4 and
T5 he could subscribe to both lists.

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Renat Zubairov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gesendet: Freitag, 15. Juni 2007 16:26
An: Tapestry users
Betreff: Re: Split mailing list for T5/T4,4.1

What if developers are working on the production version (fixing bugs) and
developing new version at the same time? I guess that's the most common
situation for in all companies that were using Tapestry for a while.

Renat

On 15/06/07, #Cyrille37# <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Daniel Jue a écrit :
> > I say we can split it.  Make the original list for T3 and T4x users,
> > and make a new one for T5.  Interested parties can subscribe to both.
> > We can't guarantee that new subscribers to the current setup will
> > prepend the correct version in the subject line.  (Although it has
> > worked pretty well so far!)
>
> I think a split could be a proper way.
> a T4 list for production , a T5 list for developpers.
>
> my 2 cents.
> cyrille
> >
> > Daniel
> >
> > On 6/14/07, Bruce Petro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> This sounds great - although you could also do multiple targets
> >> which could just prepend a key to all subjects so people could then
> >> pick what they want via that key word designation.
> >>
> >> Sent from my GoodLink synchronized handheld (www.good.com)
> >>
> >>  -Original Message-
> >> From:   Holger Stolzenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Sent:   Thursday, June 14, 2007 03:40 AM Eastern Standard Time
> >> To: Tapestry users
> >> Subject:Split mailing list for T5/T4,4.1
> >>
> >> Hey guys,
> >>
> >> I just aksed myself if it would make sense to split up the mailing
> >> list into 2 lists. For me, only T4,T4.1 topics are relevat at the
> >> moment. Everyday I have to filter out about let me say 80% of the
> >> mails because they are T5 related. Thats a lot of overhead.
> >>
> >> How do you all think about it?
> >>
> >> Mit lieben Grüßen aus dem eWerk
> >>
> >>   |  Holger Stolzenberg
> >>   |  Softwareentwickler
> >>   |
> >>   |  Geschäftsführer:
> >>   |  Frank Richter, Erik Wende, Hendrik Schubert
> >>   |
> >>   |  eWerk IT GmbH
> >>   |  Markt 16
> >>   |  Leipzig 04109
> >>   |  http://www.ewerk.com
> >>   |  HRB 9065, AG Leipzig
> >>   |  Hauptniederlassung Leipzig
> >>   |
> >>   |  fon +49.341.4 26 49-0
> >>   |  fax +49.341.4 26 49-88
> >>   |  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>   |
> >>   |  Support:
> >>   |  fon 0700 CALLME24 (0700 22556324)
> >>   |  fax 0700 CALLME24 (0700 22556324)
> >>   |
> >>   | Auskünfte und Angebote per Mail
> >>   | sind freibleibend und unverbindlich.
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
>
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AW: Split mailing list for T5/T4,4.1

2007-06-15 Thread Holger Stolzenberg
The fact (mentioned earlier) is that if someone is interessted in T4 and T5 he 
could subscribe to both lists. 

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Renat Zubairov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Gesendet: Freitag, 15. Juni 2007 16:26
An: Tapestry users
Betreff: Re: Split mailing list for T5/T4,4.1

What if developers are working on the production version (fixing bugs) and 
developing new version at the same time? I guess that's the most common 
situation for in all companies that were using Tapestry for a while.

Renat

On 15/06/07, #Cyrille37# <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Daniel Jue a écrit :
> > I say we can split it.  Make the original list for T3 and T4x users, 
> > and make a new one for T5.  Interested parties can subscribe to both.
> > We can't guarantee that new subscribers to the current setup will 
> > prepend the correct version in the subject line.  (Although it has 
> > worked pretty well so far!)
>
> I think a split could be a proper way.
> a T4 list for production , a T5 list for developpers.
>
> my 2 cents.
> cyrille
> >
> > Daniel
> >
> > On 6/14/07, Bruce Petro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> This sounds great - although you could also do multiple targets 
> >> which could just prepend a key to all subjects so people could then 
> >> pick what they want via that key word designation.
> >>
> >> Sent from my GoodLink synchronized handheld (www.good.com)
> >>
> >>  -Original Message-
> >> From:   Holger Stolzenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Sent:   Thursday, June 14, 2007 03:40 AM Eastern Standard Time
> >> To: Tapestry users
> >> Subject:Split mailing list for T5/T4,4.1
> >>
> >> Hey guys,
> >>
> >> I just aksed myself if it would make sense to split up the mailing 
> >> list into 2 lists. For me, only T4,T4.1 topics are relevat at the 
> >> moment. Everyday I have to filter out about let me say 80% of the 
> >> mails because they are T5 related. Thats a lot of overhead.
> >>
> >> How do you all think about it?
> >>
> >> Mit lieben Grüßen aus dem eWerk
> >>
> >>   |  Holger Stolzenberg
> >>   |  Softwareentwickler
> >>   |
> >>   |  Geschäftsführer:
> >>   |  Frank Richter, Erik Wende, Hendrik Schubert
> >>   |
> >>   |  eWerk IT GmbH
> >>   |  Markt 16
> >>   |  Leipzig 04109
> >>   |  http://www.ewerk.com
> >>   |  HRB 9065, AG Leipzig
> >>   |  Hauptniederlassung Leipzig
> >>   |
> >>   |  fon +49.341.4 26 49-0
> >>   |  fax +49.341.4 26 49-88
> >>   |  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>   |
> >>   |  Support:
> >>   |  fon 0700 CALLME24 (0700 22556324)
> >>   |  fax 0700 CALLME24 (0700 22556324)
> >>   |
> >>   | Auskünfte und Angebote per Mail
> >>   | sind freibleibend und unverbindlich.
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
>
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Re: Split mailing list for T5/T4,4.1

2007-06-15 Thread Renat Zubairov

What if developers are working on the production version (fixing bugs) and
developing new version at the same time? I guess that's the most common
situation for in all companies that were using Tapestry for a while.

Renat

On 15/06/07, #Cyrille37# <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Daniel Jue a écrit :
> I say we can split it.  Make the original list for T3 and T4x users,
> and make a new one for T5.  Interested parties can subscribe to both.
> We can't guarantee that new subscribers to the current setup will
> prepend the correct version in the subject line.  (Although it has
> worked pretty well so far!)

I think a split could be a proper way.
a T4 list for production , a T5 list for developpers.

my 2 cents.
cyrille
>
> Daniel
>
> On 6/14/07, Bruce Petro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> This sounds great - although you could also do multiple targets which
>> could just prepend a key to all subjects so people could then pick
>> what they want via that key word designation.
>>
>> Sent from my GoodLink synchronized handheld (www.good.com)
>>
>>  -Original Message-
>> From:   Holger Stolzenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent:   Thursday, June 14, 2007 03:40 AM Eastern Standard Time
>> To: Tapestry users
>> Subject:Split mailing list for T5/T4,4.1
>>
>> Hey guys,
>>
>> I just aksed myself if it would make sense to split up the mailing
>> list into 2 lists. For me, only T4,T4.1 topics are relevat at the
>> moment. Everyday I have to filter out about let me say 80% of the
>> mails because they are T5 related. Thats a lot of overhead.
>>
>> How do you all think about it?
>>
>> Mit lieben Grüßen aus dem eWerk
>>
>>   |  Holger Stolzenberg
>>   |  Softwareentwickler
>>   |
>>   |  Geschäftsführer:
>>   |  Frank Richter, Erik Wende, Hendrik Schubert
>>   |
>>   |  eWerk IT GmbH
>>   |  Markt 16
>>   |  Leipzig 04109
>>   |  http://www.ewerk.com
>>   |  HRB 9065, AG Leipzig
>>   |  Hauptniederlassung Leipzig
>>   |
>>   |  fon +49.341.4 26 49-0
>>   |  fax +49.341.4 26 49-88
>>   |  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>   |
>>   |  Support:
>>   |  fon 0700 CALLME24 (0700 22556324)
>>   |  fax 0700 CALLME24 (0700 22556324)
>>   |
>>   | Auskünfte und Angebote per Mail
>>   | sind freibleibend und unverbindlich.
>>
>>
>



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Re: AW: Split mailing list for T5/T4,4.1

2007-06-15 Thread jb
I believe splitting is a real good idea. But if not than maybe it will make 
sense to mention the version in the subject?

Jens

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Re: Split mailing list for T5/T4,4.1

2007-06-14 Thread #Cyrille37#

Daniel Jue a écrit :

I say we can split it.  Make the original list for T3 and T4x users,
and make a new one for T5.  Interested parties can subscribe to both.
We can't guarantee that new subscribers to the current setup will
prepend the correct version in the subject line.  (Although it has
worked pretty well so far!)


I think a split could be a proper way.
a T4 list for production , a T5 list for developpers.

my 2 cents.
cyrille


Daniel

On 6/14/07, Bruce Petro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
This sounds great - although you could also do multiple targets which 
could just prepend a key to all subjects so people could then pick 
what they want via that key word designation.


Sent from my GoodLink synchronized handheld (www.good.com)

 -Original Message-
From:   Holger Stolzenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:   Thursday, June 14, 2007 03:40 AM Eastern Standard Time
To: Tapestry users
Subject:    Split mailing list for T5/T4,4.1

Hey guys,

I just aksed myself if it would make sense to split up the mailing 
list into 2 lists. For me, only T4,T4.1 topics are relevat at the 
moment. Everyday I have to filter out about let me say 80% of the 
mails because they are T5 related. Thats a lot of overhead.


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Re: AW: Split mailing list for T5/T4,4.1

2007-06-14 Thread Renat Zubairov

Hi,

I would agree with Jesse, it makes no sence to divide mail list. We
are using 4.1.2 but I still very interesting in what's going on in 5
and some questions about 4 I could answer as well.
I think it makes no sence.

Renat

On 14/06/07, Jesse Kuhnert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

To save everyone the anticipation of wondering I should say that I don't
think this will ever realistically happen.  That's not final of course - if
Howard chooses to he can (I think).   There are a couple tiny reasons why:

-) No one else is doing it.  Maven2 / Struts2 / Apache2 / etc etc all have
the same kind of version differences but remain on one list.
-) It ~would~ fracture the community.
-) Besides all the obvious cross pollination benefits it's probably a good
idea to have all the T3/T4 users see how easy things are in the T5 world so
that they eventually decide to upgrade and hopefully one day release me from
my T4 bindings. :) (though djinn can also be evil)
-) We are lazy/busy so given the above there is almost 0 incentive to do it.

-) Forum software / google filters / etc can help.

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Re: AW: Split mailing list for T5/T4,4.1

2007-06-14 Thread Jesse Kuhnert

To save everyone the anticipation of wondering I should say that I don't
think this will ever realistically happen.  That's not final of course - if
Howard chooses to he can (I think).   There are a couple tiny reasons why:

-) No one else is doing it.  Maven2 / Struts2 / Apache2 / etc etc all have
the same kind of version differences but remain on one list.
-) It ~would~ fracture the community.
-) Besides all the obvious cross pollination benefits it's probably a good
idea to have all the T3/T4 users see how easy things are in the T5 world so
that they eventually decide to upgrade and hopefully one day release me from
my T4 bindings. :) (though djinn can also be evil)
-) We are lazy/busy so given the above there is almost 0 incentive to do it.

-) Forum software / google filters / etc can help.

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Re: AW: Split mailing list for T5/T4,4.1

2007-06-14 Thread Steven Coco
Hi.

Since I'm new and only using T5, for feedback purposes on this concept, it 
would suit me fine if there were a T5-only list.

I'll try to remember to put T5 in the subject for now too.

Thanks.
-Steev Coco.

On Thu June 14 2007 9:08:31 am Holger Stolzenberg wrote:
> That was my intend ;-)
>
>
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: Joshua Jackson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 14. Juni 2007 14:23
> An: Tapestry users
> Betreff: Re: Split mailing list for T5/T4,4.1
>
> I think we should make a polling and let the community choose. And also let
> us wait what Howard has got to say about this.
>
> On 6/14/07, Martin Strand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Then subscribe to both lists.
> > I think it's a good idea to split, T4 and T5 discussions seem to be
> > unrelated to each other.
>
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Re: Split mailing list for T5/T4,4.1

2007-06-14 Thread Daniel Jue

I say we can split it.  Make the original list for T3 and T4x users,
and make a new one for T5.  Interested parties can subscribe to both.
We can't guarantee that new subscribers to the current setup will
prepend the correct version in the subject line.  (Although it has
worked pretty well so far!)

Daniel

On 6/14/07, Bruce Petro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

This sounds great - although you could also do multiple targets which could 
just prepend a key to all subjects so people could then pick what they want via 
that key word designation.

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Sent:   Thursday, June 14, 2007 03:40 AM Eastern Standard Time
To: Tapestry users
Subject:    Split mailing list for T5/T4,4.1

Hey guys,

I just aksed myself if it would make sense to split up the mailing list into 2 
lists. For me, only T4,T4.1 topics are relevat at the moment. Everyday I have 
to filter out about let me say 80% of the mails because they are T5 related. 
Thats a lot of overhead.

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RE: Split mailing list for T5/T4,4.1

2007-06-14 Thread Bruce Petro
This sounds great - although you could also do multiple targets which could 
just prepend a key to all subjects so people could then pick what they want via 
that key word designation. 

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From:   Holger Stolzenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:   Thursday, June 14, 2007 03:40 AM Eastern Standard Time
To: Tapestry users
Subject:Split mailing list for T5/T4,4.1

Hey guys,

I just aksed myself if it would make sense to split up the mailing list into 2 
lists. For me, only T4,T4.1 topics are relevat at the moment. Everyday I have 
to filter out about let me say 80% of the mails because they are T5 related. 
Thats a lot of overhead.

How do you all think about it?

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AW: Split mailing list for T5/T4,4.1

2007-06-14 Thread Holger Stolzenberg
That was my intend ;-) 


-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Joshua Jackson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 14. Juni 2007 14:23
An: Tapestry users
Betreff: Re: Split mailing list for T5/T4,4.1

I think we should make a polling and let the community choose. And also let us 
wait what Howard has got to say about this.


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> Then subscribe to both lists.
> I think it's a good idea to split, T4 and T5 discussions seem to be 
> unrelated to each other.

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Re: Split mailing list for T5/T4,4.1

2007-06-14 Thread Joshua Jackson

I think we should make a polling and let the community choose. And
also let us wait what Howard has got to say about this.


On 6/14/07, Martin Strand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Then subscribe to both lists.
I think it's a good idea to split, T4 and T5 discussions seem to be
unrelated to each other.


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Re: Split mailing list for T5/T4,4.1

2007-06-14 Thread Martin Strand

Then subscribe to both lists.
I think it's a good idea to split, T4 and T5 discussions seem to be  
unrelated to each other.



On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 12:45:25 +0200, Alexandru Dragomir  
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I must say that i wouldn't like to be splitted.

Is very easy to choose between t5 , t4, t3 since they have this  
identifier

at the begining of the message.
And more, i'm interested in other versions questions/solutions even if  
i'm

not using them. (till some point they are somehow related)

New components or solutions found in a tapestry version could help a lot  
in
your work in other version. (new ajax work or components made in t4  
gives a

lot of speed in t5)

Alex

On 6/14/07, Joshua Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Good idea. I agree with you. Currently I only need T5 related.

On 6/14/07, Holger Stolzenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey guys,
>
> I just aksed myself if it would make sense to split up the mailing  
list

into 2 lists. For me, only T4,T4.1 topics are relevat at the moment.
Everyday I have to filter out about let me say 80% of the mails because  
they

are T5 related. Thats a lot of overhead.


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Re: Split mailing list for T5/T4,4.1

2007-06-14 Thread Alexandru Dragomir

I must say that i wouldn't like to be splitted.

Is very easy to choose between t5 , t4, t3 since they have this identifier
at the begining of the message.
And more, i'm interested in other versions questions/solutions even if i'm
not using them. (till some point they are somehow related)

New components or solutions found in a tapestry version could help a lot in
your work in other version. (new ajax work or components made in t4 gives a
lot of speed in t5)

Alex

On 6/14/07, Joshua Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Good idea. I agree with you. Currently I only need T5 related.

On 6/14/07, Holger Stolzenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey guys,
>
> I just aksed myself if it would make sense to split up the mailing list
into 2 lists. For me, only T4,T4.1 topics are relevat at the moment.
Everyday I have to filter out about let me say 80% of the mails because they
are T5 related. Thats a lot of overhead.

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Re: Split mailing list for T5/T4,4.1

2007-06-14 Thread Joshua Jackson

Good idea. I agree with you. Currently I only need T5 related.

On 6/14/07, Holger Stolzenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hey guys,

I just aksed myself if it would make sense to split up the mailing list into 2 
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to filter out about let me say 80% of the mails because they are T5 related. 
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Split mailing list for T5/T4,4.1

2007-06-14 Thread Holger Stolzenberg
Hey guys,

I just aksed myself if it would make sense to split up the mailing list into 2 
lists. For me, only T4,T4.1 topics are relevat at the moment. Everyday I have 
to filter out about let me say 80% of the mails because they are T5 related. 
Thats a lot of overhead.

How do you all think about it?

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