T5: Disable JavaScript usage
Hello * I've to create a WebApp which may use plain html only! Is it possible/does it make sense to use Tapestry for that? I would like to use Tapestry for that app because i made some good experience with it, but is Tapestry able to avoid JavaScript at all? Thanks for help Klaus -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/T5%3A-Disable-JavaScript-usage-tp25817796p25817796.html Sent from the Tapestry - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: T5: Disable JavaScript usage
I've to create a WebApp which may use plain html only! Is it possible/does it make sense to use Tapestry for that? Yes of course, I would like to use Tapestry for that app because i made some good experience with it, but is Tapestry able to avoid JavaScript at all? You are not forced to use JavaScript, Tapestry does include a minimum of JavaScript, but you don't have to use it. cheers, Peter - Original Message - From: Klaus Kopruch klaus.kopr...@materna.de To: users@tapestry.apache.org Sent: Friday, 9 October, 2009 12:00:16 GMT +02:00 Athens, Beirut, Bucharest, Istanbul Subject: T5: Disable JavaScript usage Hello * I've to create a WebApp which may use plain html only! Is it possible/does it make sense to use Tapestry for that? I would like to use Tapestry for that app because i made some good experience with it, but is Tapestry able to avoid JavaScript at all? Thanks for help Klaus -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/T5%3A-Disable-JavaScript-usage-tp25817796p25817796.html Sent from the Tapestry - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org
Re: T5: Disable JavaScript usage
i saw tapestry even include no javascript at all on pages without tapestry-form-components. just give it a try ;) Peter Stavrinides schrieb: I've to create a WebApp which may use plain html only! Is it possible/does it make sense to use Tapestry for that? Yes of course, I would like to use Tapestry for that app because i made some good experience with it, but is Tapestry able to avoid JavaScript at all? You are not forced to use JavaScript, Tapestry does include a minimum of JavaScript, but you don't have to use it. cheers, Peter - Original Message - From: Klaus Kopruch klaus.kopr...@materna.de To: users@tapestry.apache.org Sent: Friday, 9 October, 2009 12:00:16 GMT +02:00 Athens, Beirut, Bucharest, Istanbul Subject: T5: Disable JavaScript usage Hello * I've to create a WebApp which may use plain html only! Is it possible/does it make sense to use Tapestry for that? I would like to use Tapestry for that app because i made some good experience with it, but is Tapestry able to avoid JavaScript at all? Thanks for help Klaus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org
Re: T5: Disable JavaScript usage
I think you just have to turn off client validation to remove javascript from forms too. I don't think Tapestry includes any javascript at all unless a component requires it. On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Christian Riedel christian-rie...@gmx.netwrote: i saw tapestry even include no javascript at all on pages without tapestry-form-components. just give it a try ;) Peter Stavrinides schrieb: I've to create a WebApp which may use plain html only! Is it possible/does it make sense to use Tapestry for that? Yes of course, I would like to use Tapestry for that app because i made some good experience with it, but is Tapestry able to avoid JavaScript at all? You are not forced to use JavaScript, Tapestry does include a minimum of JavaScript, but you don't have to use it. cheers, Peter - Original Message - From: Klaus Kopruch klaus.kopr...@materna.de To: users@tapestry.apache.org Sent: Friday, 9 October, 2009 12:00:16 GMT +02:00 Athens, Beirut, Bucharest, Istanbul Subject: T5: Disable JavaScript usage Hello * I've to create a WebApp which may use plain html only! Is it possible/does it make sense to use Tapestry for that? I would like to use Tapestry for that app because i made some good experience with it, but is Tapestry able to avoid JavaScript at all? Thanks for help Klaus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org
Re: T5: Disable JavaScript usage
Hello Klaus, If you want prevent Tapestry to include the Default JS and CSS files you may override the ClientInfrastructure service. This service defines all the assets needed to Tapestry 5 client infrastructure including scriptaculous, prototype, blackbird, etc. Regards NIclas On 09.10.09 11:00, Klaus Kopruch klaus.kopr...@materna.de wrote: Hello * I've to create a WebApp which may use plain html only! Is it possible/does it make sense to use Tapestry for that? I would like to use Tapestry for that app because i made some good experience with it, but is Tapestry able to avoid JavaScript at all? Thanks for help Klaus -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/T5%3A-Disable-JavaScript-usage-tp25817796p25817796.html Sent from the Tapestry - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: T5: Disable JavaScript usage
Hallo Niclas, thank you for this hint. I'll try! Regards Klaus Niclas.Meier wrote: Hello Klaus, If you want prevent Tapestry to include the Default JS and CSS files you may override the ClientInfrastructure service. This service defines all the assets needed to Tapestry 5 client infrastructure including scriptaculous, prototype, blackbird, etc. Regards NIclas On 09.10.09 11:00, Klaus Kopruch klaus.kopr...@materna.de wrote: Hello * I've to create a WebApp which may use plain html only! Is it possible/does it make sense to use Tapestry for that? I would like to use Tapestry for that app because i made some good experience with it, but is Tapestry able to avoid JavaScript at all? Thanks for help Klaus -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/T5%3A-Disable-JavaScript-usage-tp25817796p25817796.html Sent from the Tapestry - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/T5%3A-Disable-JavaScript-usage-tp25817796p25819598.html Sent from the Tapestry - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org
Re: T5: Disable JavaScript usage
Thanks! I'll use Tapestry ... -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/T5%3A-Disable-JavaScript-usage-tp25817796p25819605.html Sent from the Tapestry - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org
Re: T5: disable javascript
Hi Lastiha, You could have saved me one day work:) it's exactly what I'm looking for, well, my fault not reading the doc:(( anyway, I do find something interesting about T5's form, when a form is loaded using Ajax, the scripts do not completely loaded causing several errors and you see a blank screen, one way to fix this is, manually add those scripts(Prototype, Scriptaculous, Tapestry.js) in the parent template and disable the script in the calling page, this somehow works(client side validation). thanks. A.C. lasitha wrote: On 11/5/07, Angelo Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a way to disable or exclude those default javascripts(that's around 200k in size)? I notice if there is form in a page T5 will include some javascript files. Angelo, perhaps i'm missing something but couldn't you just set clientValidation=false ? http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry5/tapestry-core/component-parameters.html#orgapachetapestrycorelibcomponentsform Cheers, lasitha. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/T5%3A-disable-javascript-tf4749556.html#a13602475 Sent from the Tapestry - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: T5: disable javascript
Hello Angelo! Angelo Chen wrote: You could have saved me one day work:) It could have saved you one day if it would work, but unfortunately it doesnt: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAPESTRY-1748 -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/T5%3A-disable-javascript-tf4749556.html#a13602999 Sent from the Tapestry - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: T5: disable javascript
Hi Christian, Good you pointed out, It works now with 5.0.6. I upgraded to 5.0.6 yesterday hoping t:container/t:container might be a better option than div/div hack, so for 5.0.5 user I do have some contribution, use divbodybody/div. clientvalidation=false works with 5.0.6 only. Lashita's post reminded me a story, a guy trying to study Bible, he studied all books about Bible except the Bibile itself:( ok, let me read the Form.java now;-)) A.C. Christian Köberl POI wrote: Hello Angelo! Angelo Chen wrote: You could have saved me one day work:) It could have saved you one day if it would work, but unfortunately it doesnt: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAPESTRY-1748 -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/T5%3A-disable-javascript-tf4749556.html#a13603300 Sent from the Tapestry - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: T5: disable javascript
Angelo Chen wrote:
Good you pointed out, It works now with 5.0.6.
Hey, that's good - I checked that and it seems to work.
But then I looked at how and it seems that Tapestry still generate the
validation script:
script type=text/javascript
!--
Event.observe(window, load, function() {
Tapestry.Field.required('name', 'You must provide a value for Name.');
});
// --
/script
It also adds the dependecies to the header - this is why it works now. It
would be a lot nicer if the scripts were removed when clientValidation is
false :(
A partly happy,
Chris
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Hi Christian, I created a simple project and put a simple form there, got the same result as yours, don't know why. so I copied my complicated form over and reduce it to the following, it removes those javascripts, I can't tell why as I already erased the first simple form:( please try this template, see if it produce the same output as mine, kind of mystery here:( here is the template: html xmlns:t=http://tapestry.apache.org/schema/tapestry_5_0_0.xsd; head titlehilo Start Page/title /head body h1my form/h1 t:form t:id=comment_form t:clientValidation=false input t:type=textfield t:id=name / input t:type=submit name=Submit t:id=Submit value=Submit/ /t:form /body /html here is the rendered page: html headlink href=/assets/tapestry/default.css rel=stylesheet type=text/css titlehilo Start Page/title /head body h1my form/h1 form action=/myform.comment_form id=comment_form method=post name=comment_formdiv class=t-invisibleinput name=t:formdata type=hidden value=H4sIAFvzloG1nJeB27fSLb8o1yovMTe1uIjBKr8oXS+xIDE5I1WvJLEgtbikqFIvOb8oNSczSS8psThVzzEJKJaYXOKWmZqTohKcWlJa4Jhckpmfpxp6mPuh6PE/TAyMPgw88ak5qbmpeSV+QHNLGIR8shLLEvVzEvPS9YNLijLz0q0rCkoYWEC2YjrCjURHBBTlJ6cWFweXJuVmFhcDnQJx0OF1KSZp3+adY2JgqCgo52fghdpSDFJXUlzIUMfAUMLABtZWgiEPkmYFADYHBGIlAQAA/div input id=name name=name type=text value= /assets/tapestry/field-error-marker.png input id=Submit name=Submit type=submit value=Submit /assets/tapestry/field-error-marker.png /form /body /html Angelo Chen wrote: Good you pointed out, It works now with 5.0.6. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/T5%3A-disable-javascript-tf4749556.html#a13610740 Sent from the Tapestry - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: T5: disable javascript
Hi Kris, so far the approach works, it's just a workaround, I'm eagerly waiting for T5's Ajax support. a little curious as well, how framework provides Ajax support? T5 is loading around 200k js files, that's far bigger than jQuery's 20k, might be better T5's core should not deal with Javascripts, an add on module will, if user does not use those features that requires js, it will save around 200k. A.C. kristian.marinkovic wrote: hi angelo, you reached a point where you have to digg a little deeper :) in order to achieve what you want you'll have to provide your own DocumentScriptBuilder ( 5.0.5) or DocumentHeadBuilder (= 5.0.6) please checkout the source and search for the class you'll see it is not that complicated :) g, kris Angelo Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05.11.2007 07:23 Bitte antworten an Tapestry users users@tapestry.apache.org An users@tapestry.apache.org Kopie Thema Re: T5: disable javascript found a workaround on this, surround the body with div div body /body /div T5 will not include javascript in the rendered page, but not sure if this works with 5.06. Angelo Chen wrote: Hi, Is there a way to disable or exclude those default javascripts(that's around 200k in size)? I notice if there is form in a page T5 will include some javascript files. I disable the browser's javascript and the page still works with those validations done in the server, that means we don't really need javascript for the form, right? The reason I will disable the javascript is, when you load a page using jQuery/Thickbox, if the page has form with javascript, it will fail, Firebug reports 6 errors on those js files, I have to use pure html form now for that so I can't use the onValidate event in the server side for validation, any idea? Thanks, A.C. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/T5%3A-disable-javascript-tf4749556.html#a13581860 Sent from the Tapestry - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/T5%3A-disable-javascript-tf4749556.html#a13584093 Sent from the Tapestry - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: T5: disable javascript
On 11/5/07, Angelo Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a way to disable or exclude those default javascripts(that's around 200k in size)? I notice if there is form in a page T5 will include some javascript files. Angelo, perhaps i'm missing something but couldn't you just set clientValidation=false ? http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry5/tapestry-core/component-parameters.html#orgapachetapestrycorelibcomponentsform Cheers, lasitha. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
T5: disable javascript
Hi, Is there a way to disable or exclude those default javascripts(that's around 200k in size)? I notice if there is form in a page T5 will include some javascript files. I disable the browser's javascript and the page still works with those validations done in the server, that means we don't really need javascript for the form, right? The reason I will disable the javascript is, when you load a page using jQuery/Thickbox, if the page has form with javascript, it will fail, Firebug reports 6 errors on those js files, I have to use pure html form now for that so I can't use the onValidate event in the server side for validation, any idea? Thanks, A.C. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/T5%3A-disable-javascript-tf4749556.html#a13581181 Sent from the Tapestry - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: T5: disable javascript
found a workaround on this, surround the body with div div body /body /div T5 will not include javascript in the rendered page, but not sure if this works with 5.06. Angelo Chen wrote: Hi, Is there a way to disable or exclude those default javascripts(that's around 200k in size)? I notice if there is form in a page T5 will include some javascript files. I disable the browser's javascript and the page still works with those validations done in the server, that means we don't really need javascript for the form, right? The reason I will disable the javascript is, when you load a page using jQuery/Thickbox, if the page has form with javascript, it will fail, Firebug reports 6 errors on those js files, I have to use pure html form now for that so I can't use the onValidate event in the server side for validation, any idea? Thanks, A.C. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/T5%3A-disable-javascript-tf4749556.html#a13581860 Sent from the Tapestry - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: T5: disable javascript
hi angelo, you reached a point where you have to digg a little deeper :) in order to achieve what you want you'll have to provide your own DocumentScriptBuilder ( 5.0.5) or DocumentHeadBuilder (= 5.0.6) please checkout the source and search for the class you'll see it is not that complicated :) g, kris Angelo Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05.11.2007 07:23 Bitte antworten an Tapestry users users@tapestry.apache.org An users@tapestry.apache.org Kopie Thema Re: T5: disable javascript found a workaround on this, surround the body with div div body /body /div T5 will not include javascript in the rendered page, but not sure if this works with 5.06. Angelo Chen wrote: Hi, Is there a way to disable or exclude those default javascripts(that's around 200k in size)? I notice if there is form in a page T5 will include some javascript files. I disable the browser's javascript and the page still works with those validations done in the server, that means we don't really need javascript for the form, right? The reason I will disable the javascript is, when you load a page using jQuery/Thickbox, if the page has form with javascript, it will fail, Firebug reports 6 errors on those js files, I have to use pure html form now for that so I can't use the onValidate event in the server side for validation, any idea? Thanks, A.C. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/T5%3A-disable-javascript-tf4749556.html#a13581860 Sent from the Tapestry - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
