Re: Tapestry 5 and Mobile

2011-11-29 Thread François Facon
This would be great!

we did some experiments on jquery mobile.
The lib is under construction at
https://github.com/got5/tapestry5-jquery-mobile  (based on Beta 1 not
the latest version)
and a sample at  https://github.com/got5/techforum.
(Ajax Page load disabled)

the integration will be even better, if we had support for ajax form
validation and ajax render request.

Next generate PhoneGap application from Tapestry WebApp ;)

the list of JS toolkit show at Phone Gap web site is amazing
http://phonegap.com/tools

Regards
François

2011/11/28 Howard Lewis Ship :
> One thing I've been thinking about is to have greater control over the
> "core" stack on a request-by-request basis, so that a single app can
> skin one way for a desktop browser, and skin another way (with changes
> to the "core" stack) for a mobile device (i.e., include JS & CSS from
> jQuery Mobile, for example).
>
> On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 11:08 AM, SeleniuM  wrote:
>> Also, you can always implement your own Chain of Command builder directly
>> implemented from Tapestry IOC.
>> The thing is to make parameteres width and height of your own web
>> application, and to make a selection when detected what device is
>> approaching your web applications using just variable HTTP_USER_AGENT. On
>> the knowledge of what device is detected, it parses values width and height
>> ( and many others if implemented so) to it. :) If you want, I will make some
>> code tips here. Cheers.
>>
>> P.S. Sorry on my English.
>>
>> ~SeleniuM
>>
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Re: Tapestry 5 and Mobile

2011-11-29 Thread Peter Stavrinides
Howard that would be awesome from my point of view at least. I am still 
researching, but jQuery Mobile seems like a natural fit for Tapestry. If I 
understand what you are contemplating then this would be an enabler for 
seamless content adaptation. 

Cheers,
Peter


- Original Message -
From: "Howard Lewis Ship" 
To: "Tapestry users" 
Sent: Monday, 28 November, 2011 11:00:01 PM
Subject: Re: Tapestry 5 and Mobile

One thing I've been thinking about is to have greater control over the
"core" stack on a request-by-request basis, so that a single app can
skin one way for a desktop browser, and skin another way (with changes
to the "core" stack) for a mobile device (i.e., include JS & CSS from
jQuery Mobile, for example).

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 11:08 AM, SeleniuM  wrote:
> Also, you can always implement your own Chain of Command builder directly
> implemented from Tapestry IOC.
> The thing is to make parameteres width and height of your own web
> application, and to make a selection when detected what device is
> approaching your web applications using just variable HTTP_USER_AGENT. On
> the knowledge of what device is detected, it parses values width and height
> ( and many others if implemented so) to it. :) If you want, I will make some
> code tips here. Cheers.
>
> P.S. Sorry on my English.
>
> ~SeleniuM
>
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Re: Tapestry 5 and Mobile

2011-11-28 Thread Barry Books
The latest version of Twitter Bootstrap supports mobile via css. You
can have different css media types depending on the resolution of the
device.

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Re: Tapestry 5 and Mobile

2011-11-28 Thread Howard Lewis Ship
One thing I've been thinking about is to have greater control over the
"core" stack on a request-by-request basis, so that a single app can
skin one way for a desktop browser, and skin another way (with changes
to the "core" stack) for a mobile device (i.e., include JS & CSS from
jQuery Mobile, for example).

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 11:08 AM, SeleniuM  wrote:
> Also, you can always implement your own Chain of Command builder directly
> implemented from Tapestry IOC.
> The thing is to make parameteres width and height of your own web
> application, and to make a selection when detected what device is
> approaching your web applications using just variable HTTP_USER_AGENT. On
> the knowledge of what device is detected, it parses values width and height
> ( and many others if implemented so) to it. :) If you want, I will make some
> code tips here. Cheers.
>
> P.S. Sorry on my English.
>
> ~SeleniuM
>
> --
> View this message in context: 
> http://tapestry.1045711.n5.nabble.com/Tapestry-5-and-Mobile-tp5028089p5029782.html
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Re: Tapestry 5 and Mobile

2011-11-28 Thread SeleniuM
Also, you can always implement your own Chain of Command builder directly
implemented from Tapestry IOC. 
The thing is to make parameteres width and height of your own web
application, and to make a selection when detected what device is
approaching your web applications using just variable HTTP_USER_AGENT. On
the knowledge of what device is detected, it parses values width and height
( and many others if implemented so) to it. :) If you want, I will make some
code tips here. Cheers.

P.S. Sorry on my English.

~SeleniuM

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Re: Tapestry 5 and Mobile

2011-11-28 Thread Lance Java
Igor's template skinning blog entry might help too:
http://blog.tapestry5.de/index.php/2011/06/24/template-skinning/

On Monday, 28 November 2011, Peter Stavrinides 
wrote:
> Those are fantastic resources, thank you François!
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "François Facon" 
> To: "Tapestry users" 
> Sent: Monday, 28 November, 2011 12:33:45 PM
> Subject: Re: Tapestry 5 and Mobile
>
> Hi Peter,
> I sure you will lile this link :
>
http://mobiforge.com/starting/story/mobile-web-content-adaptation-techniques
> If I have to convert an existing site into a multi device one, I would
> try the responsive design approach.lot of example can be view at
> http://mediaqueri.es/
> My advise would be to talk to an experimented designer first.
> Hope this help.
> RegardsFrançois
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Peter Stavrinides 
> Date: 2011/11/28
> Subject: Tapestry 5 and Mobile
> To: Tapestry users 
>
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> This question is for the mobile gurus out there using Tapestry. We are
> about to take the plunge and convert our Tapestry web applications
> into mobile compatible web applications, but I don't quite know where
> to begin, so I would love to know how others are handling mobile with
> Tapestry and if there a framework to recommend or simply some advice
> on best practices with Tapestry integration.
>
> Our existing web sites are subscription based and were developed and
> targeted towards corporates so are very conservative with regards to
> supporting every browser since IE6, this is restrictive but
> unfortunately cannot change. This is why I am thinking to implement
> side by side applications and having a separate mobile site that uses
> HTML 5 and CSS 3... We will be supporting only the newest phones,
> mostly iPhone, Blackberry, and the latest Android devices.
>
> I know there is a great deal of knowledge in this forum, and I am a
> newbie in the mobile development area, so any tips would be greatly
> appreciated, even the most rudimentary advice.
>
> Thanks!
> Peter
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Re: Tapestry 5 and Mobile

2011-11-28 Thread Peter Stavrinides
Those are fantastic resources, thank you François!



- Original Message -
From: "François Facon" 
To: "Tapestry users" 
Sent: Monday, 28 November, 2011 12:33:45 PM
Subject: Re: Tapestry 5 and Mobile

Hi Peter,
I sure you will lile this link :
http://mobiforge.com/starting/story/mobile-web-content-adaptation-techniques
If I have to convert an existing site into a multi device one, I would
try the responsive design approach.lot of example can be view at
http://mediaqueri.es/
My advise would be to talk to an experimented designer first.
Hope this help.
RegardsFrançois
-- Forwarded message --
From: Peter Stavrinides 
Date: 2011/11/28
Subject: Tapestry 5 and Mobile
To: Tapestry users 


Hi everyone,

This question is for the mobile gurus out there using Tapestry. We are
about to take the plunge and convert our Tapestry web applications
into mobile compatible web applications, but I don't quite know where
to begin, so I would love to know how others are handling mobile with
Tapestry and if there a framework to recommend or simply some advice
on best practices with Tapestry integration.

Our existing web sites are subscription based and were developed and
targeted towards corporates so are very conservative with regards to
supporting every browser since IE6, this is restrictive but
unfortunately cannot change. This is why I am thinking to implement
side by side applications and having a separate mobile site that uses
HTML 5 and CSS 3... We will be supporting only the newest phones,
mostly iPhone, Blackberry, and the latest Android devices.

I know there is a great deal of knowledge in this forum, and I am a
newbie in the mobile development area, so any tips would be greatly
appreciated, even the most rudimentary advice.

Thanks!
Peter

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Re: Tapestry 5 and Mobile

2011-11-28 Thread François Facon
Hi Peter,
I sure you will lile this link :
http://mobiforge.com/starting/story/mobile-web-content-adaptation-techniques
If I have to convert an existing site into a multi device one, I would
try the responsive design approach.lot of example can be view at
http://mediaqueri.es/
My advise would be to talk to an experimented designer first.
Hope this help.
RegardsFrançois
-- Forwarded message --
From: Peter Stavrinides 
Date: 2011/11/28
Subject: Tapestry 5 and Mobile
To: Tapestry users 


Hi everyone,

This question is for the mobile gurus out there using Tapestry. We are
about to take the plunge and convert our Tapestry web applications
into mobile compatible web applications, but I don't quite know where
to begin, so I would love to know how others are handling mobile with
Tapestry and if there a framework to recommend or simply some advice
on best practices with Tapestry integration.

Our existing web sites are subscription based and were developed and
targeted towards corporates so are very conservative with regards to
supporting every browser since IE6, this is restrictive but
unfortunately cannot change. This is why I am thinking to implement
side by side applications and having a separate mobile site that uses
HTML 5 and CSS 3... We will be supporting only the newest phones,
mostly iPhone, Blackberry, and the latest Android devices.

I know there is a great deal of knowledge in this forum, and I am a
newbie in the mobile development area, so any tips would be greatly
appreciated, even the most rudimentary advice.

Thanks!
Peter

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Tapestry 5 and Mobile

2011-11-28 Thread Peter Stavrinides
Hi everyone,

This question is for the mobile gurus out there using Tapestry. We are about to 
take the plunge and convert our Tapestry web applications into mobile 
compatible web applications, but I don't quite know where to begin, so I would 
love to know how others are handling mobile with Tapestry and if there a 
framework to recommend or simply some advice on best practices with Tapestry 
integration.

Our existing web sites are subscription based and were developed and targeted 
towards corporates so are very conservative with regards to supporting every 
browser since IE6, this is restrictive but unfortunately cannot change. This is 
why I am thinking to implement side by side applications and having a separate 
mobile site that uses HTML 5 and CSS 3... We will be supporting only the newest 
phones, mostly iPhone, Blackberry, and the latest Android devices.

I know there is a great deal of knowledge in this forum, and I am a newbie in 
the mobile development area, so any tips would be greatly appreciated, even the 
most rudimentary advice.

Thanks!
Peter 

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