Re: tomcat dead, service won't start

2013-03-14 Thread Mark Thomas
On 14/03/2013 21:17, Harris, Jeffrey E. wrote:
> 
> 
>>>
>>> http://tomcat.apache.org/connectors-doc/webserver_howto/apache.html
>>
>> In the section that says it is specific to Tomcat 5.5.x only?
>>
>> That doc could do with a refresh but the odds of something that is
>> specific to 5.5.x working on Tomcat 7 are slim to say the least.
>>
>> auto-configure doesn't exist in Tomcat 7.
>>
> 
> There are many common features between Tomcat 5, 6, and 7.  How are we 
> supposed to know
> which ones are deprecated, unless the documentation is updated?  The text 
> says "this example is
> specific to Tomcat 5.x", not "this capability is not available after Tomcat 
> 5.x".
> 
> (I note in passing that this page also still has references to Tomcat 3.x!)

Like I said, the doc needs a refresh.

I gave it a quick scan. References to httpd 1.3, Tomcat 3, Tomcat 4,
Tomcat 5, mod_jserv and auto-configure need to be removed and I don't
know how accurate the build instructions are but the bulk of it - the
directive information - looks fine.

I'd also note (as Rainer has mentioned numerous times on this list)
that the mod_jk sources include more extensive configuration examples
[1] that are probably a better starting point.

Mark

[1] http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/tomcat/jk/trunk/conf/


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RE: tomcat dead, service won't start

2013-03-14 Thread Harris, Jeffrey E.


> >
> > http://tomcat.apache.org/connectors-doc/webserver_howto/apache.html
>
> In the section that says it is specific to Tomcat 5.5.x only?
>
> That doc could do with a refresh but the odds of something that is
> specific to 5.5.x working on Tomcat 7 are slim to say the least.
>
> auto-configure doesn't exist in Tomcat 7.
>

There are many common features between Tomcat 5, 6, and 7.  How are we supposed 
to know
which ones are deprecated, unless the documentation is updated?  The text says 
"this example is
specific to Tomcat 5.x", not "this capability is not available after Tomcat 
5.x".

(I note in passing that this page also still has references to Tomcat 3.x!)

> Mark
>
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Re: tomcat dead, service won't start

2013-03-14 Thread Mark Thomas
On 14/03/2013 21:09, so...@essnmag.com wrote:
> 
>   
>>  >>  Use the real documentation [1] rather than a clearly very old, very out
>>  >>  of date guide you dug up vis Google that has you trying to use a class
>>  >>  that was removed several years ago and deprecated even longer ago.
>>  >>  
>>  >>  Mark
>>  >>  
>>  >>  
>>  >>  [1] http://tomcat.apache.org/connectors-doc/generic_howto/quick.html
>>  >>  
>>  > I didn't dig it up on google, i was using the docs listed on 
>> tomcat.apache.org
>>  >
>>  > If they have old docs on their site, well that's on them.
>>  
>>  Where did you find a reference to org.apache.jk.config.ApacheConfig ?
>>  
>>  Exact URL please.
>>  
>>  Mark
>>  
>>  
> 
> http://tomcat.apache.org/connectors-doc/webserver_howto/apache.html

In the section that says it is specific to Tomcat 5.5.x only?

That doc could do with a refresh but the odds of something that is
specific to 5.5.x working on Tomcat 7 are slim to say the least.

auto-configure doesn't exist in Tomcat 7.

Mark


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Re: tomcat dead, service won't start

2013-03-14 Thread solar

  
>  >>  Use the real documentation [1] rather than a clearly very old, very out
>  >>  of date guide you dug up vis Google that has you trying to use a class
>  >>  that was removed several years ago and deprecated even longer ago.
>  >>  
>  >>  Mark
>  >>  
>  >>  
>  >>  [1] http://tomcat.apache.org/connectors-doc/generic_howto/quick.html
>  >>  
>  > I didn't dig it up on google, i was using the docs listed on 
> tomcat.apache.org
>  >
>  > If they have old docs on their site, well that's on them.
>  
>  Where did you find a reference to org.apache.jk.config.ApacheConfig ?
>  
>  Exact URL please.
>  
>  Mark
>  
>  

http://tomcat.apache.org/connectors-doc/webserver_howto/apache.html




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RE: tomcat dead, service won't start

2013-03-14 Thread Harris, Jeffrey E.


> -Original Message-
> From: so...@essnmag.com [mailto:so...@essnmag.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 4:59 PM
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> Subject: Re: tomcat dead, service won't start
>
>
>
> >  ---Original Message---
> >  From: Mark Thomas 
> >  To: Tomcat Users List 
> >  Subject: Re: tomcat dead, service won't start
> >  Sent: Mar 14 '13 16:48
> >
> >  On 14/03/2013 20:45, so...@essnmag.com wrote:
> >  >
> >  >>
> >  >>  /me Reaches for crystal ball to try and determine key
> information
> > like  >>  Tomcat version number.
> >  >>
> >  >>  Mark
> >  >>
> >  >
> >  > Tomcat 7.0.37
> >  > Tomcat Connectors 1.2.37
> >  > Apache 2.2.22
> >
> >  Use the real documentation [1] rather than a clearly very old, very
> > out  of date guide you dug up vis Google that has you trying to use a
> > class  that was removed several years ago and deprecated even longer
> ago.
> >
> >  Mark
> >
> >
> >  [1] http://tomcat.apache.org/connectors-doc/generic_howto/quick.html
> >
> I didn't dig it up on google, i was using the docs listed on
> tomcat.apache.org
>
> If they have old docs on their site, well that's on them.
>
> Steve Spence, KK4HFJ
> http://arduinotronics.blogspot.com
> http://www.essnmag.com
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Mark, Andre,

I gave him the link to http://tomcat.apache.org/connectors-doc/ and copied from 
the Tomcat connector page.

In looking at the quick.html page, the information is somewhat out of date:

"You should first have mod_jk.so (unix) or mod_jk.dll (Windows) installed in 
your Apache module directory (see your Apache documentation to locate it).

"Usual locations for modules directory on Unix:

"/usr/lib/apache/
/usr/lib/apache2/
/usr/local/apache/libexec/

"Usual locations for modules directory on Windows :

"C:\Program Files\Apache Group\Apache\modules\
C:\Program Files\Apache Group\Apache2\modules\"

Note the references to mod_jk.dll, and "Apache Group".

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Re: tomcat dead, service won't start

2013-03-14 Thread Mark Thomas
On 14/03/2013 20:59, so...@essnmag.com wrote:
> 
> 
>>  ---Original Message---
>>  From: Mark Thomas 
>>  To: Tomcat Users List 
>>  Subject: Re: tomcat dead, service won't start
>>  Sent: Mar 14 '13 16:48
>>  
>>  On 14/03/2013 20:45, so...@essnmag.com wrote:
>>  >
>>  >>  
>>  >>  /me Reaches for crystal ball to try and determine key information like
>>  >>  Tomcat version number.
>>  >>  
>>  >>  Mark
>>  >>  
>>  >
>>  > Tomcat 7.0.37
>>  > Tomcat Connectors 1.2.37
>>  > Apache 2.2.22
>>  
>>  Use the real documentation [1] rather than a clearly very old, very out
>>  of date guide you dug up vis Google that has you trying to use a class
>>  that was removed several years ago and deprecated even longer ago.
>>  
>>  Mark
>>  
>>  
>>  [1] http://tomcat.apache.org/connectors-doc/generic_howto/quick.html
>>  
> I didn't dig it up on google, i was using the docs listed on tomcat.apache.org
> 
> If they have old docs on their site, well that's on them.

Where did you find a reference to org.apache.jk.config.ApacheConfig ?

Exact URL please.

Mark


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Re: tomcat dead, service won't start

2013-03-14 Thread solar


>  ---Original Message---
>  From: Mark Thomas 
>  To: Tomcat Users List 
>  Subject: Re: tomcat dead, service won't start
>  Sent: Mar 14 '13 16:48
>  
>  On 14/03/2013 20:45, so...@essnmag.com wrote:
>  >
>  >>  
>  >>  /me Reaches for crystal ball to try and determine key information like
>  >>  Tomcat version number.
>  >>  
>  >>  Mark
>  >>  
>  >
>  > Tomcat 7.0.37
>  > Tomcat Connectors 1.2.37
>  > Apache 2.2.22
>  
>  Use the real documentation [1] rather than a clearly very old, very out
>  of date guide you dug up vis Google that has you trying to use a class
>  that was removed several years ago and deprecated even longer ago.
>  
>  Mark
>  
>  
>  [1] http://tomcat.apache.org/connectors-doc/generic_howto/quick.html
>  
I didn't dig it up on google, i was using the docs listed on tomcat.apache.org

If they have old docs on their site, well that's on them.

Steve Spence, KK4HFJ
http://arduinotronics.blogspot.com
http://www.essnmag.com

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Re: tomcat dead, service won't start

2013-03-14 Thread André Warnier

Mark Thomas wrote:

On 14/03/2013 20:40, so...@essnmag.com wrote:
I had tomcat working earlier today, now it won't start. Not sure what I did, as I was in the process of trying to 
integrate it with apache.


attaching log, but that probably won't go through.

Mar 14, 2013 4:21:57 PM org.apache.catalina.startup.Catalina load
WARNING: Catalina.start using conf/server.xml: Error at (105, 117) : 
org.apache.jk.config.ApacheConfig
Mar 14, 2013 4:21:57 PM org.apache.catalina.startup.Catalina start
SEVERE: Cannot start server. Server instance is not configured.


/me Reaches for crystal ball to try and determine key information like
Tomcat version number.


Yes, specially if it has this :
conf/server.xml: Error at (105, 117) : org.apache.jk.config.ApacheConfig

That sounds like something from a long-long time ago.


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Re: tomcat dead, service won't start

2013-03-14 Thread Mark Thomas
On 14/03/2013 20:45, so...@essnmag.com wrote:
> 
>>  
>>  /me Reaches for crystal ball to try and determine key information like
>>  Tomcat version number.
>>  
>>  Mark
>>  
> 
> Tomcat 7.0.37
> Tomcat Connectors 1.2.37
> Apache 2.2.22

Use the real documentation [1] rather than a clearly very old, very out
of date guide you dug up vis Google that has you trying to use a class
that was removed several years ago and deprecated even longer ago.

Mark


[1] http://tomcat.apache.org/connectors-doc/generic_howto/quick.html


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Re: tomcat dead, service won't start

2013-03-14 Thread solar

>  
>  /me Reaches for crystal ball to try and determine key information like
>  Tomcat version number.
>  
>  Mark
>  

Tomcat 7.0.37
Tomcat Connectors 1.2.37
Apache 2.2.22

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Re: tomcat dead, service won't start

2013-03-14 Thread Mark Thomas
On 14/03/2013 20:40, so...@essnmag.com wrote:
> I had tomcat working earlier today, now it won't start. Not sure what I did, 
> as I was in the process of trying to 
> integrate it with apache.
> 
> attaching log, but that probably won't go through.
> 
> Mar 14, 2013 4:21:57 PM org.apache.catalina.startup.Catalina load
> WARNING: Catalina.start using conf/server.xml: Error at (105, 117) : 
> org.apache.jk.config.ApacheConfig
> Mar 14, 2013 4:21:57 PM org.apache.catalina.startup.Catalina start
> SEVERE: Cannot start server. Server instance is not configured.

/me Reaches for crystal ball to try and determine key information like
Tomcat version number.

Mark

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