[VFB] News to start the year off right with; German thief killed by condom explosion

[Jimi, AKA Desert Eagle]

German thief killed by condom machine explosion
December 29, 2015 11:47 AM MST 
 
Don't try this at home. Or at all, really.
Independent Online Facebook page
Sometimes a criminal dies doing something so ridiculous that you can't help but 
chuckle a bit, despite the fact that a death is involved. When someone is hoist 
by their own petard we can take some satisfaction in the fact that the buffoon 
may no longer be able to breed, hence the popularity of the Darwin Awards. 
However, when somebody removes himself from the gene pool and in the process 
tangentially aids other people in breeding through their crime, well, that 
takes it to a whole new level.

Take the case of one German man and his buddies. They thought a vending machine 
would make for an easy target for some quick easy coin and attempted to rob it. 
Not by prying it open with a crowbar or by picking the lock or anything like 
that. No, these fellas decided to blow the machine up with explosives.

The explosion was successful -- a little too successful in fact. The man, who 
has not yet been identified, so we'll just call him the Prophylactic Pilferer, 
or PP for short, was struck by a piece of shrapnel from the explosion. The 
shrapnel, most likely from the machine itself and not one of the prophylactics, 
hit him in the head, ending his life of very low end crime.

His buddies took him to the hospital and spun a yarn about him falling down the 
stairs to explain the head wound. The hospital staff didn't buy it, because 
they can tell the difference between somebody's head being damaged on a floor 
or by a piece of flying metal.

The crime raises a few questions, like how much money could there really be in 
a condom dispenser to risk an explosion? If these kerls could afford 
explosives, why did they need a few Euros from a vending machine? And, perhaps 
most importantly, why weren't they practicing safe theft?

No condoms nor money were successfully lifted and the other two German thieves 
were arrested for the crime.

http://www.examiner.com/article/german-thief-killed-by-condom-machine-explosion

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Re: [VFB] Fly Tying book to sell or trade.

[Jimi, AKA Desert Eagle]

Chuck, I would be interested in it, I need to replace a whole lot of books I 
lost in the flood in September.

When I die, I want to go with my boots on, my heart full, with my friends,
in a pile of spent brass.
The Lone Survivor, Marcus Luttrell

Jimi
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[VFB] Did You Know this?: CABELA'S.....Un-Believable!!

[Jimi, AKA Desert Eagle]

SURPRISE, SURPRISE! 


Who knew a fishing rod was a medical device?


CABELA'S 
Medical Excise Tax on Retail Receipts?


The 2.3% Medical Excise Tax that began on January 1st is supposed to be 
"hidden" from the consumer, but it's been brought to the public's attention by 
hunting and fishing store Cabela's who have refused to hide it and are showing 
it as a separate line item tax on their receipts, the email states.
 
I did some research and found directly from the IRS's website information that 
PROVES this to be true and an accurate portrayal of something hidden in 
Obamacarethat I was not aware of! Now being skeptical of this I went to the IRS 
website and found this!
 
Q1. What is the medical device excise tax? A1. Section 4191 of the Internal 
Revenue Code imposes an excise tax on the sale of certain medical devices by 
the manufacturer or importer of the device.

Q2. When does the tax go into effect? A2. The tax applies to sales of taxable 
medical devices after Dec. 31, 2013.

Q3. How much is the tax? A3. The tax is 2.3 percent of the sale price of the 
taxable medical device. See Chapter 5 of IRS Publication 510, Excise Taxes, and 
Notice 2012-77 for additional information on the determination of sale price.  
IRS.gov   



Chapter Five 
http://www.irs.gov/publications/p510/ch05.html
 

So being more curious I clicked on "Chapter 5 Of IRS Publication 510."


And what do I find under "MEDICAL DEVICES" under "MANUFACTURERS TAXES"?


The following discussion of manufacturers taxes

Applies to the tax on:


Sport fishing equipment;


Fishing rods and fishing poles;


Electric outboard motors;


Fishing tackle boxes;


Bows, quivers, broad heads, and points;


Arrow shafts;


Coal;


Taxable tires;


Gas guzzler automobiles;
 
and


Vaccines.


IRS.gov  

We have been fooled again, if we believe that the Affordable Care Act is all 
about health care. It is a monstrous law that will ration health care while 
bankrupting the country. It also appears to be a law with a whole lot of taxes 
that we the people have yet to be made aware of.

It is a political con to gain more control. It is also a method to obtain more 
taxes for the liberals to buy the votes of the ignorant and uninformed and 
those who want something for nothing.

I guess it’s just like Nancy Pelosi said, "We have to pass it to see what is in 
it." Well, what is next? What else is there we do not know about? Where is the 
press? O yes, it's in the tank for Obama.


Please pass this on

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[VFB] Ha, Made it thru another year.....

[Jimi, AKA Desert Eagle]

Some knew, some reminded me, to all that did, thank you, to all those who 
did not know, no problem, kind of don't like advertising passing Methuselah 
multiple times. Amanda always hated it when her friends would ask my age and 
told them, "Older than Dirt".
Jimi
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Re: [VFB] Let's Go Fishing

[Jimi, AKA Desert Eagle]

CMA? Chuck Alexander?
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- Original Message - 
From: Chuck Alexander 
To: fly fishing for panfish ; vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2014 2:39 AM
Subject: [VFB] Let's Go Fishing


OK Folks: here’s a little pic with a little lake (FULL of fish of course). Is 
anybody besides me ready for the weather gets like this?? The trees and  bushes 
grow leaves, turn different colors, but mostly green. Then the weather temps 
get out of these all time lows, and you flip a fly to them. I can taste it it’s 
been soo long (two yrs) since I have actually fished to amount to anything. 
Chuck

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Re: [VFB] boat cracks

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Yes Chuck, clean off the old fiberglass, a lot of times you can just peal it up 
when you get ti started. Use a disk sander rather than a grinder, the grinder 
is to rough and thins the metal before you know it. As to the stress point, yes 
2 patches cut and drill together so as to match the drill holes, then use one 
to match drill along the crack with JB slathered on the insides of the patches 
and both sides of the hull and riveted works fine. Example; if your crack is 3" 
long, cut your patches 3x5, one inch over the crack with 1 inch apron and a 1 
inch apron on each end should not leak again and will dissipate the stresses of 
stepping on it repeated.

Is that as clear as mud?
Jimi
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- Original Message - 
From: Chuck Alexander 
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 3:32 PM
Subject: Re: [VFB] boat cracks


I guess they meant I’d have to grind off the old fiberglass to get that area 
back to bare metal. Right guys??? That’s what I have been doing, even when I 
re-fixed it with fiberglass patches. I’d grind the old patches off, till I had 
clean, bare metal then start fresh. Thanks, Chuck

From: Allan Fish 
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 3:10 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [VFB] boat cracks

On 1/13/14, 4:05 PM, the smiths wrote: 
  His boat is alumimum so the method works for pin holes or cracks.  I repaired 
a three sided quater sized hole with it.

Even after it has been fiberglassed inside and out?
Interesting.  

Thanks.  I learned something today.

And for an old geezer like me, that's a good thing.

Al

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Re: [VFB] Repairing my boat's tiny cracks, and pinholes

[Jimi, AKA Desert Eagle]

Morning Chuck, and all. Big tip, never use auto store or auto anything 
fiberglass and resin to try to fix an aluminum boat. Common mistake and 
recommended all the time, but you see the results yourself. For patching any 
seam leakage or holes up to 1/2" buy the JB weld in a set. It has parts A and 
B, mix equal amounts by eye, (not absolutely critical to have exactly 50 50 
mix). You can get it at any auto parts store, note, don't get the small 1 oz 
tube kit, get the professional 5 oz kit. As long as it is closed it lasts for 
years, (I have some over 30 years old that works perfectly.

Nor the repair. sand the area to be patch with fine sandpaper or emery cloth, 
both sides, (in and outside). Us acetone to clean the area in and out. Use the 
ice lolly stick you used to mix it with to place a blob on the hole. If it is 
small, (pin hole to about 16th inch no real backing is needed), press the blob 
a bit till it oozes thru. Take another small blob and put on the other side 
from where you started. Take a stip of clear packing tape and place it centered 
over the patch and gently press so the JB spreads out a bit and then smooth to 
a genital 1/16 to 1/8th" high in the center out patch. Repeat on the other 
side. Let cure overnight and go fishing.

Now, for holes 1/8" and larger, same process, (sand clean etc.), but we add 
something, your pop can. Take the empty pop can you have been enjoying while 
cleaning the area and snip it open with your scissors, (note, using the same 
scissors you normally use for trimming hackle is not recommended, it will give 
your Royal Coachman a bad hair day...). Trim the aluminum from the can to a 
patch that will overlap the hole by a minimum of 4 times the hole size for 
holes up to half inch. Over that have the overlap about 3/8ths to half inch all 
the way around. Note, the inside of the can is coated so you need to sand and 
clean it with acetone till it is bright aluminum and you and see the sanding 
marks in it. Again, mix your JB and coat the hull and the patch and place. 
Press it into place and tape as before, repeat with a second patch on the 
inside, or outside if you started on the inside. If you put enough JB on the 
inside it should spread around the edges enough to make a nice clean patch 
suitable for bare feet.

Now, the big question, did all that make sense?
Jimi
Desert Eagle Shooters
Rifle Marksmanship Instructor
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- Original Message - 
From: Chuck Alexander 
To: fly fishing for panfish ; vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 3:18 AM
Subject: [VFB] Repairing my boat's tiny cracks, and pinholes


Folks: My old jon boat is probably older than me (see attached pics), but I had 
it looking pretty decent in these pics after I painted it, and put fiberglass 
in the bottom outside and the bottom inside as well. But, that regular 
fiberglass resin, the type that is clear, when you walk through the boat, as in 
getting in or out of the boat, that stuff cracks pretty easily. They make a 
“Bondo” type fiberglass that is an opaque  and green in color. Does anybody 
here know if that “Bondo type” does a better job on things like this than the 
traditional clear resin, used WITH fiberglass  cloth as well. I will also use 
the cloth with the Bondo type if that is what I end up going with. And help 
though, no matter what it is, as far as fixing cracks, or pinholes in the 
bottom of an aluminum jon boat would be greatly appreciated, cause I sit up 
front, and run that foot controlled trolling motor, while my wife had a regular 
trolling motor with her, and so when we are ready to go a cpl MILES to the end 
of the other end of the lake, or if it comes up a thunderstorm, we crank BOTH 
trolling motors up on HIGH and a Half LOL, and high tail it to the boat ramp. 
Thanks a lot. I wish I still had my welding torches and tanks. I would just get 
aluminum brazing rods and braze the cracks and holes. My wife has the sump pump 
in back of the boat, and she says she’s tired of running that thing all the 
time, when she could be FISHING instead LOL..And we all know what happens when 
momma ain’t happy..., Chuck

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Re: [VFB] weather

[Jimi, AKA Desert Eagle]

10º this morning here in Lakewood NM, wind chill was -8. Work inside today.
Jimi
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- Original Message - 
From: Chuck Alexander 
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2014 2:50 AM
Subject: Re: [VFB] weather


It’s also breaking records here in Bama. It’s 7 degrees out right now, with 
about a –5 to –7 degree wind chill. Only got up to 22 yesterday, and only 
supposed to hot about 23-24 tomorrow. Then a MUCH WANTED warming trend back 
into the highs of the 40’s by Wednesday I HOPE. Chuck

From: Wayne Blake-Hedges 
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2014 8:40 AM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [VFB] weather

  I can't recall ever seeing temperatures this low in the areas reported. I 
know if annd when it gets to my house, those temps will be record setting. 

  I hope your heating systems can keep you warm.

  Wayneb

  Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
 




From: Allan Fish ; 
To: ; 
Subject: Re: [VFB] weather 
Sent: Mon, Jan 6, 2014 1:41:14 PM 


  On 1/6/14, 7:22 AM, brian.burge...@btinternet.com wrote: 
Just seen the freezing weather, hope you are all safe and well if you 
are in those areas.


  Although I hope it stays way North of you, I certainly want to get it out 
of here.

  Current in Greenwood, IN (think Indianapolis):
  Actual temp = -13 F (-25 C)
  Wind Chill = -41 F  (-41.8 C)

  But the plus side is that the 11 inches of snow we had yesterday is now 
blowing and drifting.

  We're hibernating today, thank you.

  Allan 


 

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Re: [VFB] weather

[Jimi, AKA Desert Eagle]

12º here in Lakewood NM this morning. Think I have Ice in a couple pipes.
Jimi
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- Original Message - 
From: brian.burge...@btinternet.com 
To: vfb 
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2014 5:22 AM
Subject: [VFB] weather


Just seen the freezing weather, hope you are all safe and well if you are in 
those areas.

Please don’t send it over to us in England.

Birdie
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[VFB] Savings for seniors age 50+

[Jimi, AKA Desert Eagle]

Savings for seniors age 50+

You may qualify for this now!

Thought this was interesting...


  SENIOR DISCOUNTS

  Keep this list and send a copy to your senior friends and relatives.
  As I was waiting in line behind an older gentleman at Wendy's recently, I 
heard him ask for his senior discount. The girl at the register apologized and 
charged him less. When I asked the man what the discount was, he told me that 
seniors over age 55 get 10% off everything on the menu, every day.
  Being of 'that' age myself, I figured I might as well ask for the discount 
too.
  This incident prompted me to do some research, and I came across a list of 
restaurants, supermarkets, department stores, travel deals and other types of 
offers giving various discounts with different age requirements. I was actually 
surprised to see how many there are and how some of them start at the young age 
of 50 .
  This list may not only be useful for you, but for your friends and family too.
  Dunkin Donuts gives free coffee to people over 55 .
  If you're paying for a cup every day, you might want to start getting it for 
FREE.

  YOU; must ASK for your discount !

  RESTAURANTS:
  Applebee's: 15% off with Golden Apple Card (60+)
  Arby's: 10% off ( 55 +)
  Ben & Jerry's: 10% off (60+)
  Bennigan's: discount varies by location (60+)
  Bob's Big Boy: discount varies by location (60+)
  Boston Market: 10% off (65+)
  Burger King: 10% off (60+)
  Chick-Fil-A: 10% off or free small drink or coffee ( 55+)
  Chili's: 10% off ( 55+)
  CiCi's Pizza: 10% off (60+)
  Denny's: 10% off, 20% off for AARP members ( 55 +)
  Dunkin' Donuts: 10% off or free coffee ( 55+)
  Einstein's Bagels: 10% off baker's dozen of bagels (60+)
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Re: [VFB] Short Story on Fishing

[Jimi AKA Desert Eagle]

Tony sent you a note off list a bit ago. Did you get it?

Sharfschutze.
"The most important six inches on the battlefield is between your ears."
"One who stands with his convictions never stands alone"
"A pen in the hand of this president is far more dangerous than a gun in the 
hands of 200 million law-abiding citizens."
"Once you learn to quit, it becomes a habit." - Vince Lombardi

"If ever a time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the 
highest seats in Government, our country 
will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin."   -Samuel 
Adams

"You and I have a rendezvous with destiny. We will preserve for our children 
this, the last best hope of man on earth, or we will sentence them to take the 
first step into a thousand years of darkness. If we fail, at least let our 
children and our children's children say of us we justified our brief moment 
here. We did all that could be done." Mark Lavin

Jimi


- Original Message - 
From: Anthony Spezio 
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2013 2:02 PM
Subject: Re: [VFB] Short Story on Fishing


That is my plan. Maybe being able not fighting tying flies on might boost my 
interest in getting out and fish a bit more.
Tony


From: Neville Gosling 
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2013 2:33 PM
Subject: Re: [VFB] Short Story on Fishing



Hi Tony:


I suggest that you get both because there will be times when one is quicker 
than the other. The tippet threader may be attached to your vest on a zinger so 
it is alway available.
The fly box will save precious time with small and very small flies. I use mine 
for midges.  I have exactly the same  fly box as the 
one that I sent you a picture of. The seller had the box upside down when he 
photographed it.


Nev




On 2013-09-15, at 12:25 PM, Anthony Spezio wrote:


  Found it, price from 7.99 to 12 95.
  The 7.99 with free shipping is what I inquired about. Waiting for a reply. E 
bay has them for 8'39 with free shipping.
  Having my daughter order the fly boxes but I think the magnetic threader 
might be better for me.
  Thanks for all the info.
  Tony


  From: Neville Gosling 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2013 10:39 AM
  Subject: Re: [VFB] Short Stort on Fishing



  Tony




  Have you considered a magnetic hook threader like this?







  Neville Gosling


  The Enbridge pipeline is a project so toxic that it brings global shame to 
Canada.








  On 2013-09-15, at 6:21 AM, Anthony Spezio wrote:


Sitting on my porch looking out the window at the river I noticed a large 
number of rises around the dock. It was dead calm and the river was as smooth 
as glass.This is not normal when they are releasing water from the dam. I 
watched a while and then could not stand it any longer, I had to give it a try. 
I keep a rod ready under the porch but I had a Froggie tied on the leader so I 
had to change to a trout fly. This took me at least ten minuets as my eyesight 
is not what it used to be. I tied on a sz 16 Green Mylar body Soft Hackle that 
was a killer the last time I was on the river. Got down to the dock and made a 
few casts, no takes. Then two boats came past my dock right through the feeding 
lane. This put the trout down. Waited a bit and the rises started again. Made a 
few more casts and still no takes. Switched over to a Brown Soft Hackle, 
another ten minuets lost.
There was a steady riser and I cast a bit above and upstream from it. That 
was a take. A nice 14"+ Rainbow. Cast to a few more rises that yielded another 
two  more Rainbows in the 14" class.  In a sloppy cast I hit the dock rail that 
broke off my fly. It was the only one I had like it. I tied on another soft 
hackle with a Peacock Herl body. No takes and then tried another with still no 
takes. These two were sz 14 flies. I guess they wanted the smaller flies. By 
this time my legs and back had given out so I decided to call it quits. I had 
been on the dock almost an hour. As I was leaving I heard a big splash. Waited 
a bit and watched the area where I heard the splash. Sure enough It came  up 
again clean out of the water. This trout had to be at least a three pound fish. 
What a thrill to see a Trout that big come full body out of the water. It 
cleared the water by several inches. I did not know what it was taking ,I could 
not see any bugs on the surface.
That made my day.
Arkansas Tony


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Re: [VFB] Rope-dub #2

[Jimi AKA Desert Eagle]

Don O, What I think would be interesting is a side by side video with the same 
exact fly start at the same time and show the difference in speed as well as 
effect. Say a Hairs ear or black gnat. It would show the segmenting of the body 
on both a nymph and a dry. I think it would be fascinating to show just how 
realistic of an imitating nature with man made skill can look so lifelike.

Just a thought, if you and understand what I just wrote. If you do, can you 
explain it to me???...;^)))

Sharfschutze.
“The most important six inches on the battlefield is between your ears.”
"One who stands with his convictions never stands alone"
"A pen in the hand of this president is far more dangerous than a gun in the 
hands of 200 million law-abiding citizens."
"Once you learn to quit, it becomes a habit." - Vince Lombardi

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highest seats in Government, our country 
will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin."   -Samuel 
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this, the last best hope of man on earth, or we will sentence them to take the 
first step into a thousand years of darkness. If we fail, at least let our 
children and our children's children say of us we justified our brief moment 
here. We did all that could be done." Mark Lavin

Jimi


- Original Message - 
From: Don Ordes 
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 8:34 PM
Subject: [VFB] Rope-dub #2


Of course all of the VFBers will have dibs on the lowest serial #’s with 
signature.
I’ve got about a 1000 flies tied up for samples, so there will be a lot in each 
DVD.

I’ve been toying with the idea of doing a simple introductory You-tube to just 
give a basic understanding on what the Rope-dub is and why it differs from 
other dubbing techniques. I’ve been considering as least part of it as 
side-by-side videos comparing my roping to looping, split thread, sticky wax, 
Polly’s, etc.

Any ideas/comments? Yea or Nay? 

DonO


From: Conranch 
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 4:10 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [VFB] More fly photos

I know I am high on the list for #2.

Denny

On 8/23/2013 2:45 PM, Anthony Spezio wrote:

  Me too.
  Tony

  From: J Balmer mailto:jbal...@betadigm.com
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  Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 4:22 PM
  Subject: RE: [VFB] More fly photos


  Count me in for No.2.


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Re: [VFB] More fly photos

[Jimi AKA Desert Eagle]

Hope I am still on the list for #2.

Sharfschutze.
“The most important six inches on the battlefield is between your ears.”
"One who stands with his convictions never stands alone"
"A pen in the hand of this president is far more dangerous than a gun in the 
hands of 200 million law-abiding citizens."
"Once you learn to quit, it becomes a habit." - Vince Lombardi

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Adams

"You and I have a rendezvous with destiny. We will preserve for our children 
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first step into a thousand years of darkness. If we fail, at least let our 
children and our children's children say of us we justified our brief moment 
here. We did all that could be done." Mark Lavin

Jimi


- Original Message - 
From: Michael Bliss 
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 4:36 PM
Subject: Re: [VFB] More fly photos


I want an autographed numbered copy!  Sign me up.  But if #1 is kindergarten, I 
will have to do some studying to get #2.



On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 11:09 AM, Don Ordes  wrote:

  Thanks, Mike,
  My program put a lot of VFBers on the junk-mail blocked list- don’t know why, 
maybe the pc change. So I’m checking it often to see if I missed any emails.
  DonO

  From: Michael Bliss 
  Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 12:09 PM
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: [VFB] More fly photos

  Those look great.  Nice job on the site. 

  Mike



  On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 7:17 AM, Don Ordes  wrote:

VFBers

My son is currently adding new photos to my fly website.
He's starting with 'juicebugs'. Take a look if you have time.

http://www.fantasyflies.com/juice_bugs.php

He'll be adding 14/0 Fantasy Flies, lots of rope dubbed flies, streamers, 
realistics,
and others.

'bout time for a refresh.

DonO


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[VFB] Update on my Shoulder for those interested

[Jimi AKA Desert Eagle]

Had an appointment with the VA in ABQ yesterday, 6 days after the surgery to 
see how things were going and get
stitches out. I swear, one of those stitches on the back over the Deltoid felt 
like it ran all the way down to my
left great toe. Doc Lesko was more than pleased with my progress. His intention 
was to evaluate and schedule me for
physical therapy after examination. Mind you I set up my own therapy to keep 
the mussel structure from getting
stiff and work it a bit since there were no clear instructions other than to 
keep it moving and only sling it when
necessary to alleviate pain. Doc Lesko was impressed that my passive range of 
motion was nearly 100% and my active
ROM was about 60%, (50% greater than expected). He ask about my régime and 
workout times and how I came up with the
ideas for it. Told him went back to my "Books" and did some research on mussel 
movement and uses and worked from
there.

He said he would see me back in 4 weeks and was not going to waste my time with 
scheduling a therapist since I was
3 weeks ahead of where I was expected to be in passive and active range of 
motion. Did want me to refrain from any
lifting or stress workouts using the biceps for fear of damaging the tendon 
attachment to the soft tissue after
being snipped.

Guess having all those "books" over the years and the varied interest I have 
help paid off in time and recovery.
Never said I had a limited interest in subjects, but being a "Jack of All 
Trades" paid off I think. Still have
discomfort and it hurts after hauling hay or feed, but life goes on. At least I 
only have to move the big ice chest
one time from the car to the house, thank you Lord.

Sharfschutze.
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"A pen in the hand of this president is far more dangerous than a gun in the 
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citizens."
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Jimi


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Re: [VFB] New invention

[Jimi AKA Desert Eagle]

Don O, the problem I see is the critical alignment of the Dingle Arm to make 
the Not Knots consistent.

Sharfschutze.
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"One who stands with his convictions never stands alone"
"A pen in the hand of this president is far more dangerous than a gun in the 
hands of 200 million law-abiding citizens."
"Once you learn to quit, it becomes a habit." - Vince Lombardi

Jimi
- Original Message - 
From: Don Ordes 
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 6:44 AM
Subject: Re: [VFB] New invention


You guys are knot helping at all.  
I need a whole hitch knot so I can design the tool for it and get famous.
How many tiers need a French Spiral Hitch Tool, or a Timber Hitch Tool?
JimmyD’s a Boy Scout.  I thought he’d at least weigh in.
Frank Matarelli actually designed his famous tool after a Discipline 101 
course, hence the whip finisher.

DonO
All fly-tying related...

From: Conranch 
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 9:11 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [VFB] New invention

What Jimi said. If you do one half hitch, then reverse the second half hitch it 
becomes a Timber hitch, used in attaching a line to a log when pulling it out 
of the woods. I always reverse the second half hitch when tying a fly. It makes 
a bullet proof knot or end of my thread tie off. I use it a lot also in  
different places in tying a fly if I want the strength.
Denny

On 6/24/2013 7:23 PM, Jimi AKA Desert Eagle wrote:

  A continues set of half hitches becomes a "French Spiral Hitch", used as 
Fancy Work on boats and ships, like on a handrail.



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Re: [VFB] New invention

[Jimi AKA Desert Eagle]

A continues set of half hitches becomes a "French Spiral Hitch", used as Fancy 
Work on boats and ships, like on a handrail.

Sharfschutze.
“The most important six inches on the battlefield is between your ears.”
"One who stands with his convictions never stands alone"
"A pen in the hand of this president is far more dangerous than a gun in the 
hands of 200 million law-abiding citizens."
"Once you learn to quit, it becomes a habit." - Vince Lombardi

Jimi


Two half hitches = A Timber hitch.
Denny

On 6/24/2013 6:50 PM, Wayne Blake-Hedges wrote:

Two half hitches make a whole hitch???

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Was chatting to Nick and posed a question.  He hadn’t seen one, so I 
think I’ll invent one and become famous.  First thing is I need to figure out 
is what it is.
There’s a half-hitch tool on the market and I’m going to invent the 
whole-hitch tool.  But what is a whole hitch knot?  I looked it up on a knot 
website and there’s no whole-hitch knot shown.  It’s just knot there.
Maybe they’ve set that one aside for the marriage ‘tie the knot’.  
You’re totally hitched when you tie that knot, so it would be a whole hitch. 
Any suggestions?
Did you guys see that giant full moon last night?  Closest it comes to 
earth.  Brought out all of the lunartics.
DonO  

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[VFB] Docs and Surgery

[Jimi AKA Desert Eagle]

Well, had my shoulder work done in ABQ at the VA. Part of it was taking about 
1/2" off of my right clavicle at the 
AC joint. They found a couple things not planned but fixed them since they were 
in there. List of procedures 
follows, with the exception of 2 I have to get clarified.

Subacromial Decompression
Distal Clavicle Excision
Bicep Tenotomy
And some procedures in my rotator cuff.

Right now I have an elbow and hand but moving the shoulder draws excruciating 
responses. Finding a way to sleep is 
an excursion into pain and frustration. Should be gaining range of motion as 
the days go on and healing starts.

Obviously will not do and rifle range work for a bit, especially High Power.

A few extra prayers would be appreciated for a rapid recovery.

Thanks, because a few ask how it went.

PS, voice is sandy and raspy because of the tube down my throat during the 
procedures. Theresa says I sound like a 
frog.

Sharfschutze.
"The most important six inches on the battlefield is between your ears."
"One who stands with his convictions never stands alone"
"A pen in the hand of this president is far more dangerous than a gun in the 
hands of 200 million law-abiding 
citizens."
"Once you learn to quit, it becomes a habit." - Vince Lombardi

Jimi 


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Re: [VFB] Prayers Needed!!

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Done, Done and Done, and will continue to be done.
Thanks for giving us the chance to give back.

Sharfschutze.

"The most important six inches on the battlefield is between your ears."

"A pen in the hand of this president is far more dangerous than a gun in the 
hands of 200 million law-abiding citizens."

Jimi
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Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 2:40 PM
Subject: [VFB] Prayers Needed!!


Could you guys please keep our friends Pat & Larry Wesly in your prayers they 
lost heir son yesterday.   Andy was only 35.  This is the last thing the family 
needs  Pat has advanced MS and Larry has 2 to 6 months left to live  Andy 
leaves behind his wife and two small children 6 & 3.

Thanks so much
BobH

  


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[VFB] Preayers needed now please

[Jimi AKA Desert Eagle]

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[VFB] Not just one suffers!!!!

[Jimi AKA Desert Eagle]

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[VFB] Today I need your Attention

[Jimi AKA Desert Eagle]

"We the People" have got to set a standard, and we must do it "TODAY".

"WE" have to get on the phones to Congressman Issa and Speaker Boehner, (sp?), 
and DEMAND that Lois Lerner be 
called back and "reminded" she is under oath and questioned until she screams. 
Every DAY until we get answers. 
Demand that the answer, it is proven that she waved her 5 amendment claim by 
making a statement. Demand from Issa 
that if she refuses that the Sergeant of Arms place her under arrest for 
contempt, call an immediate contempt vote 
in the house and lock her lying socialist ass up till she does talk.

The only way congress will act is if WE THE People force them to do their jobs. 
No Deals, NO QUARTER.

Make the white house sweat and make the perpetrators of Benghazi, IRS, Fast and 
Furious and the AP Scandals 
ACCOUNTABLE.

#0; Forward this to "EVERYONE" in your contacts address book.
#1; Call 202-224-3121 the Congressional Switchboard and talk to Issa's office 
with your DEMANDS.
#2; Call back and do the same to the speakers office.
#3; Do it again and call all your congressman and senators and make the same 
DEMAND.
#4; Call all of Issa's local offices in his state, (sorry, dont have the 
numbers or would give them to you), and do 
the SAME DEMANDS.
#5; Repeat #4 only make it to the Speakers home offices.
#6; Repeat #4 to YOUR congressman and senators.
#7; Repeat #4 to your local radio and news papers.
#8; Keep a list of all your contacts and phone numbers and repeat it again 
tomorrow, and every day till action is 
taken and the perps know they are not going to get away with anything ever 
again, why, "BECAUSE WE THE PEOPLE" are 
not going to tolerate the lies, abuses of power and "Holier than you" and "you 
cant do that to me I'm Special" 
attitudes EVER AGAIN.
#9; Print this and put it on the bulletin board at work, the store, anywhere 
where anyone can read it and get 
involved.
#10; Make your concerns known in a LETTER MAILED to every office, in YOUR own 
hand.

"...It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless 
minority keen to set brush fires in 
people's minds.."
--Samuel Adams

Do Not give up if the phones are busy, that means you are doing your duty, and 
continue till you DO get through and 
make your DEMANDS. We can not stop on this, EVER, we have to keep going and get 
everyone we know involved.

Please, I can not do this alone, WE THE PEOPLE have got to do this together by 
getting off our ASSES and make OUR 
voices heard, NOW.

The problem with the lack of effect of the TEA party right now is, WE LEFT 
WASHINGTON after the rallies. Every 
congressman, public official and elected dog catcher should wake to the smell 
of boiling TAR and feathers floating 
in the air.

Cross posted to 
http://www.teapartypatriots.org/groups/tea-party-patriots-of-lakewood-nm


Sharfschutz.

"The most important six inches on the battlefield is between your ears."

"A pen in the hand of this president is far more dangerous than a gun in the 
hands of 200 million law-abiding 
citizens."

Jimi 


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[VFB] Fw: Amanda, must read, additional info

[Jimi AKA Desert Eagle]

Her major is Bio Chemistry. If you want to congratulate her directly, use this 
address;
 "Amanda" 


Sharfschutz.

"The most important six inches on the battlefield is between your ears."

"A pen in the hand of this president is far more dangerous than a gun in the 
hands of 200 million law-abiding 
citizens."

Jimi
- Original Message - 
From: "Jimi AKA Desert Eagle" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2013 7:28 PM
Subject: Amanda, must read


Found out when I was in school that Amanda got her graduation package. She is 
Graduating, SUMMA CUM LAUDE. Thought
you would like to know.

Sharfschutz.

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hands of 200 million law-abiding
citizens."

Jimi




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Re: [VFB] Amanda, must read

[Jimi AKA Desert Eagle]

Am, we are sure she was switched at birth...;-)

Sharfschutz.

"The most important six inches on the battlefield is between your ears."

"A pen in the hand of this president is far more dangerous than a gun in the 
hands of 200 million law-abiding citizens."

Jimi
- Original Message - 
From: Michael Bliss 
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2013 8:29 PM
Subject: Re: [VFB] Amanda, must read


You ought to be a proud papa!



On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 3:33 PM, Jimi AKA Desert Eagle  wrote:

  Found out when I was in school that Amanda got her graduation package. She is 
Graduating, SUMMA CUM LAUDE. Thought
  you would like to know.

  Sharfschutz.

  "The most important six inches on the battlefield is between your ears."

  "A pen in the hand of this president is far more dangerous than a gun in the 
hands of 200 million law-abiding
  citizens."

  Jimi




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[VFB] Amanda, must read

[Jimi AKA Desert Eagle]

Found out when I was in school that Amanda got her graduation package. She is 
Graduating, SUMMA CUM LAUDE. Thought 
you would like to know.

Sharfschutz.

"The most important six inches on the battlefield is between your ears."

"A pen in the hand of this president is far more dangerous than a gun in the 
hands of 200 million law-abiding 
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Jimi 




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Re: [VFB] Jimmy D Update -- Swap List - Names of tiers

[Jimi AKA Desert Eagle]

MS word or PDF?

You want our Weapons?
Molon Labe!
“Come and get them!”

“Cui bono”
Who Benefits?

100% USCG Vet
ITWPATWT

"Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are
in almost every kingdom of Europe. The supreme power in America cannot
enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are
armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that
can be, on any pretence, raised in the United States.”

Noah Webster

"The instruments, by which [government] must act, are either the AUTHORITY
of the Laws or FORCE. If the first be destroyed, the last must be
substituted; ... and where this becomes the ordinary instrument of
government, there is an end to LIBERTY." --Alexander Hamilton

RWVA Instructor, www.appleseedinfo.org go here and learn what you must do 
 to be a true patriot, not the shooting only, but the history lesson you will 
learn
about "WHY" you have the "Freedom" that you do enjoy now.

Jimi
- Original Message - 
From: Michael Bliss 
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 8:44 PM
Subject: Re: [VFB] Jimmy D Update -- Swap List - Names of tiers


the ppt is a powerpoint document and the docx is the current Word document.  I 
can probably send it in another format if you have something else Jimi.  Let me 
know.


Mike


On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 4:18 PM, Jimi AKA Desert Eagle  wrote:

  Neither would open. What's a ppt file or a docx?

  You want our Weapons?
  Molon Labe!
  “Come and get them!”

  “Cui bono”
  Who Benefits?

  100% USCG Vet
  ITWPATWT

  "Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are
  in almost every kingdom of Europe. The supreme power in America cannot
  enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are
  armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that
  can be, on any pretence, raised in the United States.”

  Noah Webster

  "The instruments, by which [government] must act, are either the AUTHORITY
  of the Laws or FORCE. If the first be destroyed, the last must be
  substituted; ... and where this becomes the ordinary instrument of
  government, there is an end to LIBERTY." --Alexander Hamilton

  RWVA Instructor, www.appleseedinfo.org go here and learn what you must do 
   to be a true patriot, not the shooting only, but the history lesson you will 
learn
  about "WHY" you have the "Freedom" that you do enjoy now.

  Jimi
  - Original Message - 
  From: Michael Bliss 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 8:13 PM
  Subject: Re: [VFB] Jimmy D Update -- Swap List - Names of tiers


  When I did them before I bought parchment paper.  You can print these on 
whatever paper you want.  Hope you enjoy,  I used Jimi's certificate as he 
asked and I have all of them on file but you can use this one and change the 
name or let me know and I will send yours 


  Mike


  On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 3:23 PM, Jimi AKA Desert Eagle  
wrote:

Would be cool to have them again. Mine got ruined when we had a roof lead 
in the family room where all my stuff is. The list keeps me going. Been so long 
since I have wet a line it is almost criminal.

You want our Weapons?
Molon Labe!
“Come and get them!”

“Cui bono”
Who Benefits?

100% USCG Vet
ITWPATWT

"Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are
in almost every kingdom of Europe. The supreme power in America cannot
enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are
armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that
can be, on any pretence, raised in the United States.”

Noah Webster

"The instruments, by which [government] must act, are either the AUTHORITY
of the Laws or FORCE. If the first be destroyed, the last must be
substituted; ... and where this becomes the ordinary instrument of
government, there is an end to LIBERTY." --Alexander Hamilton

RWVA Instructor, www.appleseedinfo.org go here and learn what you must do 
 to be a true patriot, not the shooting only, but the history lesson you 
will learn
about "WHY" you have the "Freedom" that you do enjoy now.

Jimi
- Original Message - 
From: Michael Bliss 
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 7:16 PM
Subject: Re: [VFB] Jimmy D Update -- Swap List - Names of tiers


I still have the template I made for the certificates if anyone needs it.   


Mike


On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Anthony Spezio  wrote:

I am.
Tony

--- On Tue, 3/19/13, Allan Fish  wrote:


  From: Allan Fish  

  Subject: Re: [VFB] Jimmy D Update -- Swap List - Names of tiers

  To: vfb-mail@googlegroup

Re: [VFB] Jimmy D Update -- Swap List - Names of tiers

[Jimi AKA Desert Eagle]

Neither would open. What's a ppt file or a docx?

You want our Weapons?
Molon Labe!
“Come and get them!”

“Cui bono”
Who Benefits?

100% USCG Vet
ITWPATWT

"Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are
in almost every kingdom of Europe. The supreme power in America cannot
enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are
armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that
can be, on any pretence, raised in the United States.”

Noah Webster

"The instruments, by which [government] must act, are either the AUTHORITY
of the Laws or FORCE. If the first be destroyed, the last must be
substituted; ... and where this becomes the ordinary instrument of
government, there is an end to LIBERTY." --Alexander Hamilton

RWVA Instructor, www.appleseedinfo.org go here and learn what you must do 
 to be a true patriot, not the shooting only, but the history lesson you will 
learn
about "WHY" you have the "Freedom" that you do enjoy now.

Jimi
- Original Message - 
From: Michael Bliss 
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 8:13 PM
Subject: Re: [VFB] Jimmy D Update -- Swap List - Names of tiers


When I did them before I bought parchment paper.  You can print these on 
whatever paper you want.  Hope you enjoy,  I used Jimi's certificate as he 
asked and I have all of them on file but you can use this one and change the 
name or let me know and I will send yours


Mike


On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 3:23 PM, Jimi AKA Desert Eagle  wrote:

  Would be cool to have them again. Mine got ruined when we had a roof lead in 
the family room where all my stuff is. The list keeps me going. Been so long 
since I have wet a line it is almost criminal.

  You want our Weapons?
  Molon Labe!
  “Come and get them!”

  “Cui bono”
  Who Benefits?

  100% USCG Vet
  ITWPATWT

  "Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are
  in almost every kingdom of Europe. The supreme power in America cannot
  enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are
  armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that
  can be, on any pretence, raised in the United States.”

  Noah Webster

  "The instruments, by which [government] must act, are either the AUTHORITY
  of the Laws or FORCE. If the first be destroyed, the last must be
  substituted; ... and where this becomes the ordinary instrument of
  government, there is an end to LIBERTY." --Alexander Hamilton

  RWVA Instructor, www.appleseedinfo.org go here and learn what you must do 
   to be a true patriot, not the shooting only, but the history lesson you will 
learn
  about "WHY" you have the "Freedom" that you do enjoy now.

  Jimi
  - Original Message - 
  From: Michael Bliss 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 7:16 PM
  Subject: Re: [VFB] Jimmy D Update -- Swap List - Names of tiers


  I still have the template I made for the certificates if anyone needs it.   


  Mike


  On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Anthony Spezio  wrote:

  I am.
  Tony

  --- On Tue, 3/19/13, Allan Fish  wrote:


From: Allan Fish  

Subject: Re: [VFB] Jimmy D Update -- Swap List - Names of tiers

To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, March 19, 2013, 4:36 PM 



> How many are from the legions of the Fanatic Fly Fishers' list

Who still has the list?  I used to have it, but that was a couple 
or three puterz ago.

a.

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Re: [VFB] Jimmy D Update -- Swap List - Names of tiers

[Jimi AKA Desert Eagle]

Would be cool to have them again. Mine got ruined when we had a roof lead in 
the family room where all my stuff is. The list keeps me going. Been so long 
since I have wet a line it is almost criminal.

You want our Weapons?
Molon Labe!
"Come and get them!"

"Cui bono"
Who Benefits?

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in almost every kingdom of Europe. The supreme power in America cannot
enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are
armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that
can be, on any pretence, raised in the United States."

Noah Webster

"The instruments, by which [government] must act, are either the AUTHORITY
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about "WHY" you have the "Freedom" that you do enjoy now.

Jimi
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Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 7:16 PM
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I still have the template I made for the certificates if anyone needs it.  


Mike


On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Anthony Spezio  wrote:

I am.
Tony

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  Subject: Re: [VFB] Jimmy D Update -- Swap List - Names of tiers

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  > How many are from the legions of the Fanatic Fly Fishers' list

  Who still has the list?  I used to have it, but that was a couple or 
three puterz ago.

  a.

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[VFB] OT Question, looking for help

[Jimi AKA Desert Eagle]

A few years back someone on the group helped me locate some tobacco seeds 
because they lived where it was grown and 
had a friend or acquaintance that knew someone who grew it. If possible, could 
anyone that could help me locate a 
small amount of tobacco seeds please drop me a note at j...@hdc-nm.com
Thanks

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can be, on any pretence, raised in the United States."

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Re: [VFB] Aug. 2012 Roll Call- Who's still here and tuning in?

[Jimi AKA Desert Eagle]

"Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are
in almost every kingdom of Europe. The supreme power in America cannot
enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are
armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that
can be, on any pretence, raised in the United States."

Noah Webster

"The instruments, by which [government] must act, are either the AUTHORITY
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government, there is an end to LIBERTY." --Alexander Hamilton

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Jimi
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  Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2012 7:02 PM
  Subject: Re: [VFB] Aug. 2012 Roll Call- Who's still here and tuning in?


I am hanging in there. Hoping for the list to come alive again.
Tony

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  Subject: [VFB] Aug. 2012 Roll Call- Who's still here and tuning in?
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[VFB] Today in History

[Jimi AKA Desert Eagle]

24 years ago Theresa said yes, (obviously under the influence of heavy
meds).

“Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are
in almost every kingdom of Europe. The supreme power in America cannot
enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are
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can be, on any pretence, raised in the United States.”

Noah Webster

"The instruments, by which [government] must act, are either the AUTHORITY
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government, there is an end to LIBERTY." --Alexander Hamilton


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Re: [VFB] Prayer REquest.

[Jimi AKA Desert Eagle]

Done my Friend, please keep us posted, and we will keep it up until the all 
clear.

“Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are 
in almost every kingdom of Europe. The supreme power in America cannot 
enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are 
armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that 
can be, on any pretence, raised in the United States.”

Noah Webster

"The instruments, by which [government] must act, are either the AUTHORITY of 
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and where this becomes the ordinary instrument of government, there is an end 
to LIBERTY." --Alexander Hamilton


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Jimi
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Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 4:59 PM
Subject: [VFB] Prayer REquest.


Now it is my turn to ask. My grandson is in the Children's Hospital In 
Philadelphia with some unknown problems. He was transferred there today.
Thanks,
Arkansas Tony

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[VFB] Update on Amanda

[Jimi AKA Desert Eagle]

Well according to Amanda about her surgery Friday, "It went well, Eh, I'm
really sleepy and a little nauseous. Sore as all Get out but good. They got
everything out and it looks clear I think. I have another appointment to go
over the lab results in a couple of weeks. I had one incision in my belly
button, another lower and they went in where I had the appendix surgery long
ago.". Those are quotes from text messages from her over the last 3 days.

Her mom and I are finally breathing normal, (have been holding our breath
off and on since thanksgiving), because she said that apparently she is
cancer free now. However, we still have to wait for the labs and then we
have a couple more questions for her.

I have 2 days at the VA this week for my surgical procedures so Theresa and
I will hold back anything we can after that so we can try to keep a reserve
ready in case we have to make a flying trip down to see her.

Theresa and myself, on behalf of Amanda and ourselves want to thank everyone
for the prayers for her. God has worked through experienced hands and the
initial prognosis at this time is good.

We will endeavor to keep everyone posted on her progress, and again, thank
you everyone for your prayers and other help through this time.

Jimi, Theresa and in Abstentia, Amanda

“Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are
in almost every kingdom of Europe. The supreme power in America cannot
enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are
armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that
can be, on any pretence, raised in the United States.”

Noah Webster

"The instruments, by which [government] must act, are either the AUTHORITY
of the Laws or FORCE. If the first be destroyed, the last must be
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government, there is an end to LIBERTY." --Alexander Hamilton


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[VFB] Update on Amanda

[Jimi AKA Desert Eagle]

I apologize for not giving any updates on Amanda as of late. Theresa and I
know only as much as we did since the last post I sent.

We do know that on April 20th she will have an endoscopic surgery, hope I
got that right, and she has informed us that we are not "allowed" to be
there for it. We will be "Told" when we can visit her afterwards. She has
informed us that Know One is allowed to be there for the surgery, it is her
"Choice" and "Burden". Whatever that means.

We are juggling a few things so as to be able to go when we are "Allowed",
and do it around my own surgeries, (Shoulder procedure the 4th and lower
back procedure the 25th).

So please, keep her in your prayers, not only for healing and recovery, but
that she will get over this denial/ depression so as to open up and tell us
what is going on and what the doctor says and does.

I have done my best to get her information about options and support, only
to have it pushed back that she will "Handel it on her own".

This is incredibly hard on her mom and me, but we strive to have a positive
outlook, no mater the frustration and hurt.

“Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are
in almost every kingdom of Europe. The supreme power in America cannot
enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are
armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that
can be, on any pretence, raised in the United States.”

Noah Webster

"The instruments, by which [government] must act, are either the AUTHORITY
of the Laws or FORCE. If the first be destroyed, the last must be
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government, there is an end to LIBERTY." --Alexander Hamilton


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[VFB] Update on Amanda

[Jimi AKA Desert Eagle]

Sorry folks I have not updated everyone on Amanda, Things have been 
"Interesting" around here to say the least.

She refuses to, and demands that everyone that talks to her not us the "C", 
(Cancer), word at all in addressing her. She refuses to talk to us at all 
about it. Her comment is, "I'm Fine", don't bully me. She has said that she 
will refuse the "Chemical, Cut and Burn" approach to it.

Dad has started a never ending search for information, and alternatives. 
Thanks to those that gave me input and links to information. The hard part 
will be presenting any information to Amanda, and getting here to at least 
look at it and consider it. For me, many late nights and early mornings 
spent researching and downloading information, reading it, and printing a 
bunch of it out to put into note books so I am not tied to the computer all 
the time and I can go out to the medicine wheel garden we are making for 
quiet and solitude. Best I can do now.

Theresa was heading down there to see her yesterday, but got shut down and 
turned back because Amanda said she did not have time to talk to her mom, or 
me right now. She says she is busy studying for the MCAT test and doesn't 
have time for US right now. Theresa was heeding down there today and again, 
curt, don't bother me texts turned her around again.

She has "Promised to come down Thursday and go back Sunday, so we put some 
money in her account for her travel. One thing that really has us concerned 
is that "She doesn't like to drive or make road trips anymore", For anyone 
that knows her, she used to love to travel, there was no distance to far for 
her and her friends to go. This is beyond a 180, it is totally out of 
character for her and has her mom and me not only concerned, but incredibly 
worried.

We do know that she had to get "All New Clothes", she went from a size 5/6 
to a 1/0 between Thanksgiving and Christmas. Needless to say, that was a 
shock to us at Christmas, so she had to tell us a bit, "There is a 
possibility" was all she would say.

I am going to turn it over to Theresa and let her fill you in on what she 
knows. She tells me, but for some reason I am having a hard time 
comprehending what has happened, and the only way I adjust to it is to find 
something to try and keep my hands and mind busy. Theresa cries a lot, I 
tend to hold it in until I cant anymore and have to go to the north side of 
the property so I can ell a bit and cry it out. A dad should never have the 
opportunity to outlive his daughter. I haven't given up, but it is hard for 
me when I don't have answers to needed questions.

Here is Theresa, I need to take a brake for a bit. BTW, I can not tell you 
all how much your prayers and well wishes are felt and appreciated.


jimi has covered much of it.she and I were texting pretty heavy 
yesterday-I got a little irritated at her and kind of cornered her 
somewhat. She says mom it's not as bad as everyone thinks.the docs 
aren't concerned about the spots on the liver and the brain.I am going 
to have surgery and I will let you know when I am going to the doc next.Of 
course I was caught off guard with this and I didn't ask her what the 
surgery was going to be on. so we continued texting and all and I I said 
Amanda can you put me on your hippa so I will no what's going onshe in 
no uncertain terms said she doesn't want me on itok..What am I to think? 
She and I were so close andthis year has been rough with us---I would love 
for us to be close againespecially nowwell that's all I  know > 
Christie my friend is going to Abilene next week and if Amanda doesn't come 
home Thursday I will go up next week with Christie.that is just all 
there is to it. it is past time for a face to face.


“Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are
in almost every kingdom of Europe. The supreme power in America cannot
enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are
armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that
can be, on any pretence, raised in the United States.”

Noah Webster

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[VFB] Amanda Update

[Jimi AKA Desert Eagle]

We are waiting for her to arrive. She is on the road and should be here 
about 1300 our time.

Pray all goes well in this.

“Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are
in almost every kingdom of Europe. The supreme power in America cannot
enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are
armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that
can be, on any pretence, raised in the United States.”

Noah Webster

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[VFB] Some have ask

[Jimi AKA Desert Eagle]

For our address so they could send cards and letters of support to Amanda. 
Rather than send it many times I figured it would be easier to just post it 
to all.

Amanda Genzling
PO Box 192
Lakewood, NM 88254

Thanks,
Jimi
A Man is born many men, but dies as only one.

“Lest I keep my complacent way
I must remember somewhere out there
a person or persons died for me today.
As long as there must be war
I ask and I must answer,
was I worth dying for?”

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[VFB] Sometimes being a dad really sucks, a personal note, please read, Jimi

[Jimi AKA Desert Eagle]

As some may have noted over the last while I have been a bit distant on my
daily flooding of you with my e-mails and political views. There is a
reason.

As some of you may know, most don't, since about last June our daughter
Amanda has had some medical problems with her female parts. During Christmas
brake she alluded to the fact she "may have cancer". That caused her mom and
me to push for answers to many questions, and meet a stone wall of non
answers. The more questions we ask, the less contact and answers we got.

Last night we were hit with a bomb shell. Having not heard from Amanda in a
couple of days, after many attempts, Theresa called a couple of her room
mates at school, got no answers but left messages. One called her back
fairly late. It appears that her friends and room mates thought Theresa and
I were some kind of "Monsters" because we were not there for Amanda.

It appears that Amanda found out last July that she had Ovarian Cancer, and
it has now moved to her liver, and with all appearances, her brain. She
lever told us about the first part, let alone the progression, and we don't
know why. Needless to say, Theresa and I are at a loss of understanding, and
have more questions than answers now as to why she never told us anything.

Amanda does not know that we now know what is going on. Her roommate invited
Theresa down to stay in her room and talk to Amanda with support from her
friends. Spring break starts Friday and we are going to start today to try
to get the funds together so she can go.

If you would, please pray that we can get answers andwill know what to do
and what to say. To say that we are at a loss of understanding would be an
understatement.

I thought I should let you know because many of you know and love our
daughter and should know what is going on.

Jimi
A Man is born many men, but dies as only one.

“Lest I keep my complacent way
I must remember somewhere out there
a person or persons died for me today.
As long as there must be war
I ask and I must answer,
was I worth dying for?”

~ Eleanor Roosevelt




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Re: [VFB] VFB - where'd everybody go ???Denny Conrad

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Im here, drop me a note Denny at j...@hdc-nm.com
  Jimi
  USCG ITWPATWT 100% Vet
  I don't remember any expiration Date on my Oath to Service...

  Graviora manent
  Are you ready for "any" sort of disaster, or power outage, or being stranded 
on the road? Go here and get ready NOW, while you can.
  http://deserteaglefarms.myefoods.com/

  RWVA Instructor, www.appleseedinfo.org go here and learn what you must do to 
be a
  true patriot, not the shooting only, but the history lesson you will learn
  about "WHY" you have the "Freedom" that you do enjoy now.

  "The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but
  because he loves what is behind him." G.K. Chesterton

  "When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty". Thomas Jefferson

  "If the representatives of the people betray their constituents,
  there is then no recourse left but in the exertion of that original
  right of self-defense" Alexander Hamilton

  George Washington didn't use his right to free speech to defeat the British,
  he shot them!
  - Original Message - 
  From: Conranch 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 4:19 PM
  Subject: Re: [VFB] VFB - where'd everybody go ???


  I am also here. Very hot!!
  Denny

  On 9/6/2011 3:11 PM, Anthony Spezio wrote: 
I am still here. Been replying to the award messages off list.
Tony




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Is the list dead again or is it my computer?

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Re: [VFB] Enrico Instructions for Peanut Bunker

[Jimi AKA Desert Eagle]

Peggy, I would like a copy please,

j...@hdc-nm.com
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  about "WHY" you have the "Freedom" that you do enjoy now.

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  From: Michael Bliss 
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  Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 8:45 PM
  Subject: Re: [VFB] Enrico Instructions for Peanut Bunker


  Peggy,

  I would like a copy.

  Mike


  On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 1:07 AM, Peggy Brenner  
wrote:

Several years ago I took the Class Enrico offers at the fly fishing shows 
and he sent Word Docs of the step by strip instruction after, anyone who would 
like a copy just shoot me a email and I'll send you a copy. It's long because 
of the detail, but the could also be altered for other patterns.

Peggy
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[VFB] Update, 8-29-11 IOFF Juice Bug/ Nymph Swap, Closed

[Jimi AKA Desert Eagle]

Check and make sure I have everyone's name.
Also added address to send to.

Further e-mails to me at j...@hdc-nm.com
Jimi

Flies will be; Scuds, nymphs, shrimp or variations of these/ similar aquatic
insects.

As usual in swaps, toe tag your flies, send them in a container to prevent
crushing. And, send enough $$ or stamps for return postage.

* indicates required material to be in the fly

Materials:
Ice-dub,
clear Jelly-rope (on-line),
*clear head cement,
*UV Wader repair
Pearl strips
*Mono thread
Melted mono/bead eyes (if used)

Due date would be Thankgiving.

15 tiers +/-

Flies due here by November 23rd 2011

Send to;
Jimi Genzling
PO box 192
Lakewood, NM 88254

Thoughts to j...@hdc-nm.com

1, Jimi, Swapmiester
2, Ashley Strutt
3, Eric Worm
4, Jerry McKaughan
5, Michael Bliss
6, Don O
7, J. Balmer
8, Chappy
9, Walter
10, Peggy B
11, Jack Lehman
12, Gary Webb
13, Bob Laubengayer
14, Wes Wada
15,


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Re: [VFB] RE:So Long Irene

[Jimi AKA Desert Eagle]

Just heard from my friend Hans in Portsmouth VA. That place is a mess. Too many 
downed trees and power lines to count. He has a generator and is helping his 
neighbors out with keeping perishables cool. He will update me later.
  Jimi
  USCG ITWPATWT 100% Vet
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  Graviora manent
  Are you ready for "any" sort of disaster, or power outage, or being stranded 
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be a
  true patriot, not the shooting only, but the history lesson you will learn
  about "WHY" you have the "Freedom" that you do enjoy now.

  "The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but
  because he loves what is behind him." G.K. Chesterton

  "When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty". Thomas Jefferson

  "If the representatives of the people betray their constituents,
  there is then no recourse left but in the exertion of that original
  right of self-defense" Alexander Hamilton

  George Washington didn't use his right to free speech to defeat the British,
  he shot them!
  - Original Message - 
  From: Anthony Spezio 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 10:59 AM
  Subject: Re: [VFB] RE:So Long Irene


  I just tried to contact Wayne in Maryland and Scott in VA. no connection.
  Did make connection to North and South Jersey.
  Tony



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  Wayne:

  Where do you live?

  Thank You,
  Alan Di Somma

  You know your a redneck when your Grandmother has 'ammo' on her Christmas 
list.

  From: Wayne Blake-Hedges 
  Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 8:07 AM
  To: virtual flybox ; flyfishingandflytyingforpanf...@yahoogroups.com 
  Subject: [VFB] RE:So Long Irene

Hi All;

I lost power 10pm last night, just now getting it back.  I got my 
generator running, powered up my frig and freezer and was about to fiure out 
how to power my well pump when power was restored.  This has been my  longest 
power outage(13hrs) in the twenty years of living here.  Makes me think the 
hassle of maintaining a generator may not be worth it..

Lots of leaves and small branches everywhere, a coouple of garden 
trellis fell over, one or two dead trees bit the dust but so far no major 
damage, just a lot of cleaning up to do.

I did see the National guard and a lot of heavy equipment go by so 
somebody got it much worse than me.

Wayneb 
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[VFB] Update, 8-26-11 IOFF Juice Bug/ Nymph Swap, Sign up, 1 slot left

[Jimi AKA Desert Eagle]

Check and make sure I have everyone's name. Final day to sign on will be 
Sunday evening. Also corrected the materials list as suggested. Also added 
address to send to.
Jimi

Flies will be; Scuds, nymphs, shrimp or variations of these/ similar aquatic
insects.

As usual in swaps, toe tag your flies, send them in a container to prevent 
crushing. And, send enough $$ or stamps for return postage.

* indicates required material to be in the fly

Materials:
Ice-dub,
clear Jelly-rope (on-line),
*clear head cement,
*UV Wader repair
Pearl strips
*Mono thread
Melted mono/bead eyes (if used)

Due date would be Thankgiving.

15 tiers +/-

Flies due here by November 23rd 2011

Send to;
Jimi Genzling
PO box 192
Lakewood, NM 88254

Thoughts to j...@hdc-nm.com

1, Jimi, Swapmiester
2, Ashley Strutt
3, Eric Worm
4, Jerry McKaughan
5, Michael Bliss
6, Don O
7, J. Balmer
8, Chappy
9, Walter
10, Peggy B
11, Jack Lehman
12, Gary Webb
13, Bob Laubengayer
14, Wes Wada
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Re: [VFB] IOFF Juice Bug/ Nymph Swap, Sign up, 3 slots left

[Jimi AKA Desert Eagle]

So you are, should read my own e-mails more often...;-))
  Jimi
  USCG ITWPATWT 100% Vet
  I don't remember any expiration Date on my Oath to Service...

  Graviora manent
  Are you ready for "any" sort of disaster, or power outage, or being stranded 
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be a
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  about "WHY" you have the "Freedom" that you do enjoy now.

  "The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but
  because he loves what is behind him." G.K. Chesterton

  "When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty". Thomas Jefferson

  "If the representatives of the people betray their constituents,
  there is then no recourse left but in the exertion of that original
  right of self-defense" Alexander Hamilton

  George Washington didn't use his right to free speech to defeat the British,
  he shot them!
  - Original Message - 
  From: ashley strutt 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 2:49 PM
  Subject: Re: [VFB] IOFF Juice Bug/ Nymph Swap, Sign up, 3 slots left


  Thanks Jimi,

  Already in the swap, I'll be walking the 200yards on Saturday to the craft 
shop for the Jelly rope and nylon thread :-) .

  Ashley

No offense taken Ashley

Would like to have you in the swap.
  Jimi




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Re: [VFB] IOFF Juice Bug/ Nymph Swap, Sign up, 3 slots left

[Jimi AKA Desert Eagle]

No offense taken Ashley

Would like to have you in the swap.
  Jimi
  USCG ITWPATWT 100% Vet
  I don't remember any expiration Date on my Oath to Service...

  Graviora manent
  Are you ready for "any" sort of disaster, or power outage, or being stranded 
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be a
  true patriot, not the shooting only, but the history lesson you will learn
  about "WHY" you have the "Freedom" that you do enjoy now.

  "The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but
  because he loves what is behind him." G.K. Chesterton

  "When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty". Thomas Jefferson

  "If the representatives of the people betray their constituents,
  there is then no recourse left but in the exertion of that original
  right of self-defense" Alexander Hamilton

  George Washington didn't use his right to free speech to defeat the British,
  he shot them!
  - Original Message - 
  From: ashley strutt 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 2:07 PM
  Subject: Re: [VFB] IOFF Juice Bug/ Nymph Swap, Sign up, 3 slots left


  Got it,

  This is the bit I was revering to 

  With the swappers applying their own materials and thoughts I think there 
will be a cadre of new and exciting creations that will cover a myriad of 
situations.

  I was thinking along the lines of substituting dubbing similar to Ice-dub 
were I need to chance colour, blending purposes, etc.

  Sorry if I offended but in the end it Jimis' swap

  Cheers


  Ashley

Ashley, (and swappers)

You are correct.  'Juice bugs' are just a style of fly that I've tied for 
30 years, starting with Swannundaze.

With new materials came new applications- Vinyl, Sof-tex, Jelly-rope, etc., 
Now UV as the latest improvement.

The goal is to make a bug that looks 'juicy', that is, it looks like you 
can just 'squish it' and the juice will get all over your fingers.  If you have 
some old Swannundaze, you could use that, or clear D-rib, or clear Larva-lace, 
or...   I've even used strips of heavy mono to make a clear shell, and surgical 
tubing for salt shrimp.

The one goal of any effort would be to create transparency.  I don't like 
epoxy because of the smell and weight and yellowing and the time to dry (drying 
wheels) and the mess and fuss with mixing, the waste, and...

On the simple side, just a scud rope-dubbed with reflective or synthetic 
dubbing, segmented, with a good coat of UV on the top side will make a 
juice-bug.  Let it cure and pick out some legs and you'll have a scud like a 
lot of them look in my box, because that's just what I did.  A 30-second fly to 
tie and doing a group with the UV doesn't take long.  A second coat of UV and 
the results are amazing. 

A bare hook wrapped with pearl strip and then jelly-roped on the top, and 
then soaked with vinyl and then covered on the top with UV looks really cool- 
pearlescent-transparent.

The thinned vinyl is to penetrate all your materials and make a solid fly, 
allowing the materials below to come to the surface as special effect colors.  
Then the UV coat gives transparent depth and allows all the undercolors to do 
even more amazing things.

But after a few of these simple ones you may get adventuresome.  Using the 
juice-bug tutorial as a basis lends for some experimentation.  Nice thing is 
that everything comes out cool and fishable and gives you more ideas.  So 
everyone's entries may be a hodge-podge of experiments gone well.  I have a 100 
or so in my boxes and have given away that many.  I went back to old boxes and 
took out discard flies and treated them with the UV, glitter, and markers, and 
got some amazing new fishing flies.

You'll find that markers and glitters are easy to use and give great 
results.  You may hit on the simplest combo that the fish just can't resist.  
For panfish, I would do a pink ice-dub segmented scud with opal glitter in the 
UV- just a tad- would be killer.  Chuck's pink panfish producer was rope-dubbed 
pink ice-dub. 

Just remember, it's a fun swap intended to let tiers play with techniques, 
especially Jelly-rope and UV goop.

DonO




  Hi Jimi,

  Concerning the material list, I am sure (I will check tonight) that an 
previous email wasn't so strict all the materials.
  It was more the style  of fly and the email said how people wete able to 
experiment.


  Ashley

  On 25 Aug 2011 15:08, "Jimi AKA Desert Eagle"  wrote:
  > Update as of this morning, 3 slots left.
  > Jimi
  > 
  > Flies will be; Scuds, nymphs, shrimp or variati

Re: [VFB] IOFF Juice Bug/ Nymph Swap, Sign up, 1 slot left

[Jimi AKA Desert Eagle]

Update as of this morning, 3 slots left.
Jimi

Flies will be; Scuds, nymphs, shrimp or variations of these/ similar aquatic
insects.

* indicates required material to be in the fly
# indicates an item that may be substituted if not redily available

Materials:
*Ice-dub,
#clear Jelly-rope (on-line),
*clear head cement,
*UV Wader repair
*Pearl strips
*Mono thread
Melted mono/bead eyes (if used)

Due date would be Thankgiving.

15 tiers +/-

Flies due here by November 23rd 2011

Thoughts to j...@hdc-nm.com

1, Jimi, Swapmiester
2, Ashley Strutt
3, Eric Worm
4, Jerry McKaughan
5, Michael Bliss
6, Don O
7, J. Balmer
8, Chappy
9, Walter
10, Peggy B
11, Jack Lehman
12, Gary Webb
13, Bob Laubengayer
14, Wes Wada
15,


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[VFB] IOFF Juice Bug/ Nymph Swap, Sign up, 3 slots left

[Jimi AKA Desert Eagle]

Update as of this morning, 3 slots left.
Jimi

Flies will be; Scuds, nymphs, shrimp or variations of these/ similar aquatic
insects.

* indicates required material to be in the fly
# indicates an item that may be substituted if not redily available

Materials:
*Ice-dub,
#clear Jelly-rope (on-line),
*clear head cement,
*UV Wader repair
*Pearl strips
*Mono thread
Melted mono/bead eyes (if used)

Due date would be Thankgiving.

15 tiers +/-

Flies due here by November 23rd 2011

Thoughts to j...@hdc-nm.com

1, Jimi, Swapmiester
2, Ashley Strutt
3, Eric Worm
4, Jerry McKaughan
5, Michael Bliss
6, Don O
7, J. Balmer
8, Chappy
9, Walter
10, Peggy B
11, Jack Lehman
12, Gary Webb
13,
14,
15,


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[VFB] Denny Conrad, can

[Jimi AKA Desert Eagle]

you drop me a note off list to j...@hdc-nm.com
  Jimi
  USCG ITWPATWT 100% Vet
  I don't remember any expiration Date on my Oath to Service...

  Graviora manent
  Are you ready for "any" sort of disaster, or power outage, or being 
stranded on the road? Go here and get ready NOW, while you can.
  http://deserteaglefarms.myefoods.com/

  RWVA Instructor, www.appleseedinfo.org go here and learn what you must do 
to be a
  true patriot, not the shooting only, but the history lesson you will learn
  about "WHY" you have the "Freedom" that you do enjoy now.

  "The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but
  because he loves what is behind him." G.K. Chesterton

  "When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty". Thomas Jefferson

  "If the representatives of the people betray their constituents,
  there is then no recourse left but in the exertion of that original
  right of self-defense" Alexander Hamilton

  George Washington didn't use his right to free speech to defeat the 
British,
  he shot them! 


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Re: [VFB] IOFF Juice Bug/ Nymph Swap, Sign up

[Jimi AKA Desert Eagle]

Hi Rene, no not a requirment, more of a celibration. Saw an opertunity to 
introduce some new folks to the list to some of us old farts and also do an 
unconventionally timed swap. Most of our swaps are during the cold months to 
help fend off cabin fever, so thought I would host one now for giggles and 
grins.

Like to have you on board.
Jimi


Hi Jimi,
I'm not sure about this swap.
Is it a requirement for IOFF charter members like me to participate? If
yes, why do we have only 15 spots? if not, why is it called IOFF juice
bug swap. 

Rene


On 08/23/2011 05:40 AM, Jimi AKA Desert Eagle wrote:
> This is what I have so far,
> Jimi
>
> How about a juice-bug nymph swap?
>
> Flies will be; Scuds, nymphs, shrimp or variations of these/ similar 
> aquatic
> insects.
>
> * indicates required material to be in the fly
> # indicates an item that may be substituted if not redily available
>
> Materials:
>  *Ice-dub,
>  #clear Jelly-rope (on-line),
>  *clear head cement,
>  *UV Wader repair
>  *Pearl strips
>  *Mono thread
>  Melted mono/bead eyes (if used)
>
> Due date would be Thankgiving.
>
> 15 tiers +/-
>
> Flies due here by November 23rd 2011
>
> Thoughts to j...@hdc-nm.com
>
> 1, Jimi, Swapmiester
> 2, Ashley Strutt
> 3, Eric Worm
> 4, Jerry McKaughan
> 5, Michael Bliss
> 6, Don O
> 7, J. Balmer
> 8, Chappy
> 9, Walter
> 10, Peggy B
> 11, Jack Lehman
> 12,
> 13,
> 14,
> 15,
>
>
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[VFB] IOFF Juice Bug/ Nymph Swap, Sign up, 4 slots left

[Jimi AKA Desert Eagle]

This is what I have so far,
Jimi

How about a juice-bug nymph swap?

Flies will be; Scuds, nymphs, shrimp or variations of these/ similar aquatic
insects.

* indicates required material to be in the fly
# indicates an item that may be substituted if not redily available

Materials:
*Ice-dub,
#clear Jelly-rope (on-line),
*clear head cement,
*UV Wader repair
*Pearl strips
*Mono thread
Melted mono/bead eyes (if used)

Due date would be Thankgiving.

15 tiers +/-

Flies due here by November 23rd 2011

Thoughts to j...@hdc-nm.com

1, Jimi, Swapmiester
2, Ashley Strutt
3, Eric Worm
4, Jerry McKaughan
5, Michael Bliss
6, Don O
7, J. Balmer
8, Chappy
9, Walter
10, Peggy B
11, Jack Lehman
12,
13,
14,
15,



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[VFB] Don O, Question

[Jimi AKA Desert Eagle]

What size hooks are you mainly using to tie these?
  Jimi
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  "The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but
  because he loves what is behind him." G.K. Chesterton

  "When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty". Thomas Jefferson

  "If the representatives of the people betray their constituents,
  there is then no recourse left but in the exertion of that original
  right of self-defense" Alexander Hamilton

  George Washington didn't use his right to free speech to defeat the 
British,
  he shot them! 


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Re: [VFB] Fw: Emailing: IMGP0031

[Jimi AKA Desert Eagle]

What is it? Claws look like a bird of pray??
  Jimi
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  about "WHY" you have the "Freedom" that you do enjoy now.

  "The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but
  because he loves what is behind him." G.K. Chesterton

  "When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty". Thomas Jefferson

  "If the representatives of the people betray their constituents,
  there is then no recourse left but in the exertion of that original
  right of self-defense" Alexander Hamilton

  George Washington didn't use his right to free speech to defeat the British,
  he shot them!
  - Original Message - 
  From: Wayne Blake-Hedges 
  To: virtual flybox 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 11:45 AM
  Subject: [VFB] Fw: Emailing: IMGP0031


Should I pluck it?

Wayneb

   


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[VFB] IOFF Juice Bug/ Nymph Swap, Sign up

[Jimi AKA Desert Eagle]

This is what I have so far,
Jimi

How about a juice-bug nymph swap?

Flies will be; Scuds, nymphs, shrimp or variations of these/ similar aquatic
insects.

* indicates required material to be in the fly
# indicates an item that may be substituted if not redily available

Materials:
*Ice-dub,
#clear Jelly-rope (on-line),
*clear head cement,
*UV Wader repair
*Pearl strips
*Mono thread
Melted mono/bead eyes (if used)

Due date would be Thankgiving.

15 tiers +/-

Flies due here by November 23rd 2011

Thoughts to j...@hdc-nm.com

1, Jimi, Swapmiester
2, Ashley Strutt
3, Eric Worm
4, Jerry McKaughan
5, Michael Bliss
6, Don O
7, J. Balmer
8, Chappy
9, Walter
10, Peggy B
11, Jack Lehman
12,
13,
14,
15,



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[VFB] IOFF Juice Bug/ Nymph Swap, Sign up

[Jimi AKA Desert Eagle]

This is what I have so far,
Jimi

How about a juice-bug nymph swap?

Flies will be; Scuds, nymphs, shrimp or variations of these/ similar aquatic
insects.

* indicates required material to be in the fly
# indicates an item that may be substituted if not redily available

Materials:
*Ice-dub,
#clear Jelly-rope (on-line),
*clear head cement,
*UV Wader repair
*Pearl strips
*Mono thread
Melted mono/bead eyes (if used)

Due date would be Thankgiving.

15 tiers +/-

Flies due here by November 23rd 2011

Thoughts to j...@hdc-nm.com

1, Jimi, Swapmiester
2, Ashley Strutt
3, Eric Worm
4, Jerry McKaughan
5, Michael Bliss
6, Don O
7, J. Balmer
8, Chappy
9, Walter
10, Peggy B
11,
12,
13,
14,
15,


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[VFB] Thining Loon Flexible head cement?

[Jimi AKA Desert Eagle]

I have some Loon flexible head cement that evidently did not seal correctly 
when closed. Does anyone know what type of thinning agent I could try to 
re-constitute it to semi liquid form?
  Jimi
  USCG ITWPATWT 100% Vet
  I don't remember any expiration Date on my Oath to Service...

  Graviora manent
  Are you ready for "any" sort of disaster, or power outage, or being 
stranded on the road? Go here and get ready NOW, while you can.
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to be a
  true patriot, not the shooting only, but the history lesson you will learn
  about "WHY" you have the "Freedom" that you do enjoy now.

  "The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but
  because he loves what is behind him." G.K. Chesterton

  "When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty". Thomas Jefferson

  "If the representatives of the people betray their constituents,
  there is then no recourse left but in the exertion of that original
  right of self-defense" Alexander Hamilton

  George Washington didn't use his right to free speech to defeat the 
British,
  he shot them! 


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[VFB] Its Official A new Swap, IOFF Juice Bug/ Nymph Swap, Sign up

[Jimi AKA Desert Eagle]

How about a juice-bug nymph swap?

Flies will be; Scuds, nymphs, shrimp or variations of these/ similar aquatic 
insects.

* indicates required material to be in the fly
# indicates an item that may be substituted if not redily available

Materials:
*Ice-dub,
#clear Jelly-rope (on-line),
*clear head cement,
*UV Wader repair
*Pearl strips
*Mono thread
Melted mono/bead eyes (if used)

Due date would be Thankgiving.

15 tiers +/-

Flies due here by November 23rd 2011

Thoughts to j...@hdc-nm.com

1, Jimi, Swapmiester
2, Ashley Strutt
3, Eric Worm
4, Jerry McKaughan


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[VFB] A new Swap

[Jimi AKA Desert Eagle]

Using Don O's suggestion, how about a;

How about a juice-bug nymph swap?
Materials:
Ice-dub,
clear Jelly-rope (on-line),
clear head cement,
UV Wader repair
Pearl strips
Mono thread
Melted mono/bead eyes (if used)

Maybe veriations of Hair ear or copper johns using Dons technuicks?

Due date would be Thankgiving.

What say all?

Jimi


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Re: [VFB] Any open swaps right now?

[Jimi AKA Desert Eagle]

I get mine at Hobby Lobby in the beading section.
  Jimi
  USCG ITWPATWT 100% Vet
  I don't remember any expiration Date on my Oath to Service...

  Graviora manent
  Are you ready for "any" sort of disaster, or power outage, or being 
stranded on the road? Go here and get ready NOW, while you can.
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to be a
  true patriot, not the shooting only, but the history lesson you will learn
  about "WHY" you have the "Freedom" that you do enjoy now.

  "The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but
  because he loves what is behind him." G.K. Chesterton

  "When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty". Thomas Jefferson

  "If the representatives of the people betray their constituents,
  there is then no recourse left but in the exertion of that original
  right of self-defense" Alexander Hamilton

  George Washington didn't use his right to free speech to defeat the 
British,
  he shot them!
- Original Message - 
From: "J Balmer" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 7:58 AM
Subject: RE: [VFB] Any open swaps right now?


Can you buy jelly rope from any retail stores?

-Original Message-
From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Don Ordes
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 8:44 AM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [VFB] Any open swaps right now?

Hi, Chappy,

Anything new on the rope-dub front?  No swaps open that I know of.

How about a juice-bug swap?
Materials:
Ice-dub,
clear Jelly-rope (on-line),
clear head cement,
UV Wader repair
Pearl strips
Mono thread
Melted mono/bead eyes (if used)

DonO


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From: "Chappy" 
To: "VFB Mail" 
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 6:59 AM
Subject: [VFB] Any open swaps right now?


> Just Curious.  Looking to hit the bench with a purpose.
>
> Chappy
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[VFB] A Swap?

[Jimi AKA Desert Eagle]

Hi folks, was thinking of all the activity over the weekend on the list, 
refreshing to say the least.

Was thinking this morning of hosting a swap, in honor of the IOFF and the 
creative juices of the members.

How about a nymph/ scud swap based on the thread of the juice bugs and blood 
spot scuds?

Thoughts? Interest?

Would give me the motivation to spend some time on the vise rather than looking 
at it wanting to.
  Jimi
  USCG ITWPATWT 100% Vet
  I don't remember any expiration Date on my Oath to Service...

  Graviora manent
  Are you ready for "any" sort of disaster, or power outage, or being stranded 
on the road? Go here and get ready NOW, while you can.
  http://deserteaglefarms.myefoods.com/

  RWVA Instructor, www.appleseedinfo.org go here and learn what you must do to 
be a
  true patriot, not the shooting only, but the history lesson you will learn
  about "WHY" you have the "Freedom" that you do enjoy now.

  "The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but
  because he loves what is behind him." G.K. Chesterton

  "When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty". Thomas Jefferson

  "If the representatives of the people betray their constituents,
  there is then no recourse left but in the exertion of that original
  right of self-defense" Alexander Hamilton

  George Washington didn't use his right to free speech to defeat the British,
  he shot them!

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Re: [VFB] Some juice-bug experiments- bloody scuds

[Jimi AKA Desert Eagle]

I have fished there twice, and loved it both times. Would love to have the 
chance to go again.
  Jimi
  USCG ITWPATWT 100% Vet
  I don't remember any expiration Date on my Oath to Service...

  Graviora manent
  Are you ready for "any" sort of disaster, or power outage, or being 
stranded on the road? Go here and get ready NOW, while you can.
  http://deserteaglefarms.myefoods.com/

  RWVA Instructor, www.appleseedinfo.org go here and learn what you must do 
to be a
  true patriot, not the shooting only, but the history lesson you will learn
  about "WHY" you have the "Freedom" that you do enjoy now.

  "The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but
  because he loves what is behind him." G.K. Chesterton

  "When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty". Thomas Jefferson

  "If the representatives of the people betray their constituents,
  there is then no recourse left but in the exertion of that original
  right of self-defense" Alexander Hamilton

  George Washington didn't use his right to free speech to defeat the 
British,
  he shot them!
- Original Message - 
From: 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 8:47 PM
Subject: Re: [VFB] Some juice-bug experiments- bloody scuds


I hope to get there this year.
An old fishing buddy and I were talking this week about going there.
If we decide to go I will let you know.



Thank You,
Alan Di Somma

You know your a redneck when your Grandmother has 'ammo' on her Christmas
list.
-Original Message- 
From: Jimi AKA Desert Eagle
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 7:43 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [VFB] Some juice-bug experiments- bloody scuds

San Juan is up near the four corners, we live just north of Carlsbad, in the
SE NM.
  Jimi
  USCG ITWPATWT 100% Vet
  I don't remember any expiration Date on my Oath to Service...

  Graviora manent
  Are you ready for "any" sort of disaster, or power outage, or being
stranded on the road? Go here and get ready NOW, while you can.
  http://deserteaglefarms.myefoods.com/

  RWVA Instructor, www.appleseedinfo.org go here and learn what you must do
to be a
  true patriot, not the shooting only, but the history lesson you will learn
  about "WHY" you have the "Freedom" that you do enjoy now.

  "The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but
  because he loves what is behind him." G.K. Chesterton

  "When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty". Thomas Jefferson

  "If the representatives of the people betray their constituents,
  there is then no recourse left but in the exertion of that original
  right of self-defense" Alexander Hamilton

  George Washington didn't use his right to free speech to defeat the
British,
  he shot them!
- Original Message - 
From: 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 8:38 PM
Subject: Re: [VFB] Some juice-bug experiments- bloody scuds


Jimi:

Are you close to the San Juan?

I may be going there by the end of the year for a couple of days.

If so I'd like to stop by and say hello?




Thank You,
Alan Di Somma

You know your a redneck when your Grandmother has 'ammo' on her Christmas
list.
-Original Message- 
From: Jimi AKA Desert Eagle
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 6:57 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [VFB] Some juice-bug experiments- bloody scuds

Denny, long time no hear, or see. Today has been a good day for VFB. Old and
new friends showing up and lots of memories sparked. I for one need to get
back to the bench soon. Right now there is no air conditioning in the family
room so it is totally unbearable most of the time.

Do combine my fly fishing with my Appleseed Rifle instruction when I can.
Nothing like a couple of 8" rainbows in the skillet after a great day of
shooting and history. Just wish it could be more often.

Wish we could get some way to gather everyone together, say in northern NM
for a few days of camping, fishing and lies...;-)
  Jimi
  USCG ITWPATWT 100% Vet
  I don't remember any expiration Date on my Oath to Service...

  Graviora manent
  Are you ready for "any" sort of disaster, or power outage, or being
stranded on the road? Go here and get ready NOW, while you can.
  http://deserteaglefarms.myefoods.com/

  RWVA Instructor, www.appleseedinfo.org go here and learn what you must do
to be a
  true patriot, not the shooting only, but the history lesson you will learn
  about "WHY" you have the "Freedom" that you do enjoy now.

  "The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but
  because he loves what is behind him." G.K. Chesterton

  "When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty". Thomas Jefferson

  "If the representatives of the people betray their constituents,
  ther

Re: [VFB] Some juice-bug experiments- bloody scuds

[Jimi AKA Desert Eagle]

San Juan is up near the four corners, we live just north of Carlsbad, in the 
SE NM.
  Jimi
  USCG ITWPATWT 100% Vet
  I don't remember any expiration Date on my Oath to Service...

  Graviora manent
  Are you ready for "any" sort of disaster, or power outage, or being 
stranded on the road? Go here and get ready NOW, while you can.
  http://deserteaglefarms.myefoods.com/

  RWVA Instructor, www.appleseedinfo.org go here and learn what you must do 
to be a
  true patriot, not the shooting only, but the history lesson you will learn
  about "WHY" you have the "Freedom" that you do enjoy now.

  "The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but
  because he loves what is behind him." G.K. Chesterton

  "When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty". Thomas Jefferson

  "If the representatives of the people betray their constituents,
  there is then no recourse left but in the exertion of that original
  right of self-defense" Alexander Hamilton

  George Washington didn't use his right to free speech to defeat the 
British,
  he shot them!
- Original Message - 
From: 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 8:38 PM
Subject: Re: [VFB] Some juice-bug experiments- bloody scuds


Jimi:

Are you close to the San Juan?

I may be going there by the end of the year for a couple of days.

If so I'd like to stop by and say hello?




Thank You,
Alan Di Somma

You know your a redneck when your Grandmother has 'ammo' on her Christmas
list.
-Original Message- 
From: Jimi AKA Desert Eagle
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 6:57 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [VFB] Some juice-bug experiments- bloody scuds

Denny, long time no hear, or see. Today has been a good day for VFB. Old and
new friends showing up and lots of memories sparked. I for one need to get
back to the bench soon. Right now there is no air conditioning in the family
room so it is totally unbearable most of the time.

Do combine my fly fishing with my Appleseed Rifle instruction when I can.
Nothing like a couple of 8" rainbows in the skillet after a great day of
shooting and history. Just wish it could be more often.

Wish we could get some way to gather everyone together, say in northern NM
for a few days of camping, fishing and lies...;-)
  Jimi
  USCG ITWPATWT 100% Vet
  I don't remember any expiration Date on my Oath to Service...

  Graviora manent
  Are you ready for "any" sort of disaster, or power outage, or being
stranded on the road? Go here and get ready NOW, while you can.
  http://deserteaglefarms.myefoods.com/

  RWVA Instructor, www.appleseedinfo.org go here and learn what you must do
to be a
  true patriot, not the shooting only, but the history lesson you will learn
  about "WHY" you have the "Freedom" that you do enjoy now.

  "The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but
  because he loves what is behind him." G.K. Chesterton

  "When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty". Thomas Jefferson

  "If the representatives of the people betray their constituents,
  there is then no recourse left but in the exertion of that original
  right of self-defense" Alexander Hamilton

  George Washington didn't use his right to free speech to defeat the
British,
  he shot them!
- Original Message - 
From: "Conranch" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 7:25 PM
Subject: Re: [VFB] Some juice-bug experiments- bloody scuds


It is good to be back on VFB. Some time back I was finding I just did
not have the time.
Recently I have modified my living a bit and do have more time I can
devote to keeping contact with friends.
Many of the board members do not know me. I have been around forever
(yep, one of the older guys). I do
own Conranch Hackle and have tied and fly fished for over 66 years.
Still learnin.
I like to tie in a red tag on a lot of my dry flies. I'm not sure if the
fish like it but I do. I manage to catch more than my share.
The past two seasons I have been fishing more nymphs & soft hackle
flies. I do not wade well any more so fish my high Mtn Kettle lakes from
a toon, for all of the different specie of trout. Added a new pair of
Apollo Bio Pro fins and love them. Might be a bit pricey but they work
for me.
It is good to be back.

Denny

On 8/21/2011 5:40 PM, Peggy Brenner wrote:
> I use a hot spot on just about everything, including adding a red
> beard on all of my streamers.
>
> I sat next to Aron Jasper at a show 2 years ago when he was just
> coming up with competition flies, and he raved about hot spots, so I
> took his advise and adapted some patterns.
>
> This year we did less fishing trips, but did well when we got out.
>
> Peggy
>
> On 8/21/2011 5:27 PM, Don Ordes wrote:
>> I tie a blood-spot on some of mine. It&#

Re: [VFB] Some juice-bug experiments- bloody scuds

[Jimi AKA Desert Eagle]

Has anyone heard from Chuck Alexander?
  Jimi
  USCG ITWPATWT 100% Vet
  I don't remember any expiration Date on my Oath to Service...

  Graviora manent
  Are you ready for "any" sort of disaster, or power outage, or being 
stranded on the road? Go here and get ready NOW, while you can.
  http://deserteaglefarms.myefoods.com/

  RWVA Instructor, www.appleseedinfo.org go here and learn what you must do 
to be a
  true patriot, not the shooting only, but the history lesson you will learn
  about "WHY" you have the "Freedom" that you do enjoy now.

  "The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but
  because he loves what is behind him." G.K. Chesterton

  "When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty". Thomas Jefferson

  "If the representatives of the people betray their constituents,
  there is then no recourse left but in the exertion of that original
  right of self-defense" Alexander Hamilton

  George Washington didn't use his right to free speech to defeat the 
British,
  he shot them!
- Original Message - 
From: "Jimi AKA Desert Eagle" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 7:57 PM
Subject: Re: [VFB] Some juice-bug experiments- bloody scuds


Denny, long time no hear, or see. Today has been a good day for VFB. Old and
new friends showing up and lots of memories sparked. I for one need to get
back to the bench soon. Right now there is no air conditioning in the family
room so it is totally unbearable most of the time.

Do combine my fly fishing with my Appleseed Rifle instruction when I can.
Nothing like a couple of 8" rainbows in the skillet after a great day of
shooting and history. Just wish it could be more often.

Wish we could get some way to gather everyone together, say in northern NM
for a few days of camping, fishing and lies...;-)
  Jimi
  USCG ITWPATWT 100% Vet
  I don't remember any expiration Date on my Oath to Service...

  Graviora manent
  Are you ready for "any" sort of disaster, or power outage, or being
stranded on the road? Go here and get ready NOW, while you can.
  http://deserteaglefarms.myefoods.com/

  RWVA Instructor, www.appleseedinfo.org go here and learn what you must do
to be a
  true patriot, not the shooting only, but the history lesson you will learn
  about "WHY" you have the "Freedom" that you do enjoy now.

  "The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but
  because he loves what is behind him." G.K. Chesterton

  "When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty". Thomas Jefferson

  "If the representatives of the people betray their constituents,
  there is then no recourse left but in the exertion of that original
  right of self-defense" Alexander Hamilton

  George Washington didn't use his right to free speech to defeat the
British,
  he shot them!
- Original Message - 
From: "Conranch" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 7:25 PM
Subject: Re: [VFB] Some juice-bug experiments- bloody scuds


It is good to be back on VFB. Some time back I was finding I just did
not have the time.
Recently I have modified my living a bit and do have more time I can
devote to keeping contact with friends.
Many of the board members do not know me. I have been around forever
(yep, one of the older guys). I do
own Conranch Hackle and have tied and fly fished for over 66 years.
Still learnin.
I like to tie in a red tag on a lot of my dry flies. I'm not sure if the
fish like it but I do. I manage to catch more than my share.
The past two seasons I have been fishing more nymphs & soft hackle
flies. I do not wade well any more so fish my high Mtn Kettle lakes from
a toon, for all of the different specie of trout. Added a new pair of
Apollo Bio Pro fins and love them. Might be a bit pricey but they work
for me.
It is good to be back.

Denny

On 8/21/2011 5:40 PM, Peggy Brenner wrote:
> I use a hot spot on just about everything, including adding a red
> beard on all of my streamers.
>
> I sat next to Aron Jasper at a show 2 years ago when he was just
> coming up with competition flies, and he raved about hot spots, so I
> took his advise and adapted some patterns.
>
> This year we did less fishing trips, but did well when we got out.
>
> Peggy
>
> On 8/21/2011 5:27 PM, Don Ordes wrote:
>> I tie a blood-spot on some of mine. It's a guide-trick up here that
>> works pretty well at times, even on dries.
>> DonO
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> *From:* phxflyt...@cox.net <mailto:phxflyt...@cox.net>
>> *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com <mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com>
>> *Sent:* Sunday, August 21, 2011 2:54 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [VFB] Some juice-bug experiments
>>
>> Ashley:
>> Try

Re: [VFB] Some juice-bug experiments- bloody scuds

[Jimi AKA Desert Eagle]

Denny, long time no hear, or see. Today has been a good day for VFB. Old and 
new friends showing up and lots of memories sparked. I for one need to get 
back to the bench soon. Right now there is no air conditioning in the family 
room so it is totally unbearable most of the time.

Do combine my fly fishing with my Appleseed Rifle instruction when I can. 
Nothing like a couple of 8" rainbows in the skillet after a great day of 
shooting and history. Just wish it could be more often.

Wish we could get some way to gather everyone together, say in northern NM 
for a few days of camping, fishing and lies...;-)
  Jimi
  USCG ITWPATWT 100% Vet
  I don't remember any expiration Date on my Oath to Service...

  Graviora manent
  Are you ready for "any" sort of disaster, or power outage, or being 
stranded on the road? Go here and get ready NOW, while you can.
  http://deserteaglefarms.myefoods.com/

  RWVA Instructor, www.appleseedinfo.org go here and learn what you must do 
to be a
  true patriot, not the shooting only, but the history lesson you will learn
  about "WHY" you have the "Freedom" that you do enjoy now.

  "The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but
  because he loves what is behind him." G.K. Chesterton

  "When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty". Thomas Jefferson

  "If the representatives of the people betray their constituents,
  there is then no recourse left but in the exertion of that original
  right of self-defense" Alexander Hamilton

  George Washington didn't use his right to free speech to defeat the 
British,
  he shot them!
- Original Message - 
From: "Conranch" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 7:25 PM
Subject: Re: [VFB] Some juice-bug experiments- bloody scuds


It is good to be back on VFB. Some time back I was finding I just did
not have the time.
Recently I have modified my living a bit and do have more time I can
devote to keeping contact with friends.
Many of the board members do not know me. I have been around forever
(yep, one of the older guys). I do
own Conranch Hackle and have tied and fly fished for over 66 years.
Still learnin.
I like to tie in a red tag on a lot of my dry flies. I'm not sure if the
fish like it but I do. I manage to catch more than my share.
The past two seasons I have been fishing more nymphs & soft hackle
flies. I do not wade well any more so fish my high Mtn Kettle lakes from
a toon, for all of the different specie of trout. Added a new pair of
Apollo Bio Pro fins and love them. Might be a bit pricey but they work
for me.
It is good to be back.

Denny

On 8/21/2011 5:40 PM, Peggy Brenner wrote:
> I use a hot spot on just about everything, including adding a red
> beard on all of my streamers.
>
> I sat next to Aron Jasper at a show 2 years ago when he was just
> coming up with competition flies, and he raved about hot spots, so I
> took his advise and adapted some patterns.
>
> This year we did less fishing trips, but did well when we got out.
>
> Peggy
>
> On 8/21/2011 5:27 PM, Don Ordes wrote:
>> I tie a blood-spot on some of mine. It's a guide-trick up here that
>> works pretty well at times, even on dries.
>> DonO
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> *From:* phxflyt...@cox.net 
>> *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
>> *Sent:* Sunday, August 21, 2011 2:54 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [VFB] Some juice-bug experiments
>>
>> Ashley:
>> Try putting just a pinch of red in when you mix your dubbing.
>> It will look like veins running thru the scud.
>> Thank You,
>
>>
>

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Re: [VFB] IOFF Role call status Aug. 20th update

[Jimi AKA Desert Eagle]

Hay, I'm still here as well. Discrimination against Desert Dwellers?
  Jimi
  USCG ITWPATWT 100% Vet
  I don't remember any expiration Date on my Oath to Service...

  Graviora manent
  Are you ready for "any" sort of disaster, or power outage, or being stranded 
on the road? Go here and get ready NOW, while you can.
  http://deserteaglefarms.myefoods.com/

  RWVA Instructor, www.appleseedinfo.org go here and learn what you must do to 
be a
  true patriot, not the shooting only, but the history lesson you will learn
  about "WHY" you have the "Freedom" that you do enjoy now.

  "The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but
  because he loves what is behind him." G.K. Chesterton

  "When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty". Thomas Jefferson

  "If the representatives of the people betray their constituents,
  there is then no recourse left but in the exertion of that original
  right of self-defense" Alexander Hamilton

  George Washington didn't use his right to free speech to defeat the British,
  he shot them!
  - Original Message - 
  From: Anthony Spezio 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 8:25 PM
  Subject: Re: [VFB] IOFF Role call status Aug. 20th update


  I am not on the "Still Here" list below.I did reply the other day.
  Tony



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  Subject: Re: [VFB] IOFF Role call status Aug. 20th update





  On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 8:11 AM, Don Ordes  wrote:

INTERNATIONAL ORDER of FANATIC FLY-TYERS
Aug. 20th, 2011 Roll Call

Those on the 2nd list can still apply to be ing the IOFF, which starts at 
position #51.

If you have a very short message for all who look on in the future, just 
type it in behind your name and reply to the vfb.  


IOFF BORED MEMBERS & COURT  (BLUE = SIGNED IN)
 
Poster Child:  Byard Miller 
Chairman of the Bored:   Don Ordes
President:   Jimmy D. Moore
Secretary:   Rene Zillman

Vise President   Denny Conrad  
Treasurer: Tony Spezio
Director of Fanaticism:Mark Romero
  
Seargent at Arms: Murf (In memorial)
   
King:Hans Weilenmann
   
Queen:Joyce Westphal

Prince: Tim Trexler (In memorial)   

Princess: Deb Duran   
Court Jester:   Nick Runarrson

--

CHARTER MEMBER LIST (Aug-08): (IN MEMORIAL-FANATICS PAST)

#1.  Byard Miller !!
2.  DonO
3.  JimmyD Moore
4.  Pete Gramp
5.  Rick Zieger
6.  Denny Conrad
7.  Eric Worm
8.  Monte Smith
9.  The Murf   
10. Mark 
11. Gary Smith
12. Ashley Strutt
13. Allan Fish
14. 'Critter' Chris S. ?
15. Rene Zillman
16. Del Roberts 
17. Tony Spezio
18. Martin Westbeek
19. Keith Passant
20. Deb Duran
21. Vladimir Markov
22. Jimi Genzling 
23. Joyce Westphal
24. Ed Roden
25. Iain Short
26. Kevin Slater
27.  Bob Haering
28.  Aaron Testerhall
29.  Janet Schimpf
30.  Jeff Frye
31.  Nick Runarsson  
32.  Hans Weilenman   
33.  Tim Trexler
34.  John Ridderbos
35.  Jim Burbank
36.  Paul Marriner
37.  Larry Johnson
38.  Mike Bliss
39.  Ray Gattus, Sr.
40.  Bruce Whittle, DVM
41.  Mark Delaney
42.  Alan Di Somma
43.  Rob Poutre
44.  Scott Sickau
46.  Bart
47.  Rodney Barrileaux
48.  Ginger Allen
49.  Sören Finn
50.  Kevin Machon

Non-Charter-Members of the IOFF:
51.  Gary Webb
52.  Peggy Brenner

  Still here: (Ask JimmyD (President) for a poem, Charter, and 'Rooles')
  David Colyn
  Henk Verharr
  Mike Bliss
  Rodger Oleson
  J. Balmer
  Jerry McKaughan
  Wes Wada
  Joe Fusco Sr.
  Dale Graham
  Wayne Blake-Hedges
  Neville Gosling
  Eric Worm
  Alan Di Somma
  Rick Zieger
  Scott Sickau

  ANY NEWBIES ON THE LIST PLEASE SIGN IN:

  Mike Elkavitch.
   Mike Drew
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Re: [VFB] Seeking a Fly Tying Hoarder...

[Jimi AKA Desert Eagle]

Byard, give me an address and they will be in the mail as soon as I can get 
them there.
  Jimi
  USCG ITWPATWT 100% Vet
  I don't remember any expiration Date on my Oath to Service...

  Graviora manent
  Are you ready for "any" sort of disaster, or power outage, or being 
stranded on the road? Go here and get ready NOW, while you can.
  http://deserteaglefarms.myefoods.com/

  RWVA Instructor, www.appleseedinfo.org go here and learn what you must do 
to be a
  true patriot, not the shooting only, but the history lesson you will learn
  about "WHY" you have the "Freedom" that you do enjoy now.

  "The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but
  because he loves what is behind him." G.K. Chesterton

  "When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty". Thomas Jefferson

  "If the representatives of the people betray their constituents,
  there is then no recourse left but in the exertion of that original
  right of self-defense" Alexander Hamilton

  George Washington didn't use his right to free speech to defeat the 
British,
  he shot them!
- Original Message - 
From: 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 4:01 PM
Subject: [VFB] Seeking a Fly Tying Hoarder...



Hi gang... long time... no post... ;^)

I, like most of you, am a self-proclaimed fly tying hoarder. But sadly, when 
I moved from my 3-story, 10-room New Hampshire farmhouse with a gargantuan 
attached multi-level barn to a 3-room Massachusetts cabin with a small 
garden shed, I was forced into discarding all sorts of really cool and 
supposedly useless STUFF. You all know exactly what kind of stuff I am 
eluding to... and don't even think of denying it.

Well now I am in desperate need of something that I so callously discarded. 
I would be ever so grateful if one of you fine folks could paw through your 
treasures and willingly part with (6), yes six, that's one-half dozen, of 
those little grey plastic jobbies that 35mm film came in. Your 
kind-heartedness would be rewarded with a small treasure from my own 
personal stash. Please folks... I only need six of these... remember... 
3-room cabin... already filled to capacity... actually well over capacity... 
please don't call the fire marshall.

It's so nice to see that the list lives on! I was just getting ready to send 
1,650 pounds of spam to Scott, but he failed to provide that Brit address 
where he is stranded.

keep tyin'... byard

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Re: [VFB] IOFF ROLL-CALL

[Jimi AKA Desert Eagle]

MeddelandeI'm still here
  Jimi
  USCG ITWPATWT 100% Vet
  I don't remember any expiration Date on my Oath to Service...

  Graviora manent
  Are you ready for "any" sort of disaster, or power outage, or being stranded 
on the road? Go here and get ready NOW, while you can.
  http://deserteaglefarms.myefoods.com/

  RWVA Instructor, www.appleseedinfo.org go here and learn what you must do to 
be a
  true patriot, not the shooting only, but the history lesson you will learn
  about "WHY" you have the "Freedom" that you do enjoy now.

  "The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but
  because he loves what is behind him." G.K. Chesterton

  "When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty". Thomas Jefferson

  "If the representatives of the people betray their constituents,
  there is then no recourse left but in the exertion of that original
  right of self-defense" Alexander Hamilton

  George Washington didn't use his right to free speech to defeat the British,
  he shot them!
  - Original Message - 
  From: Niclas Runarsson 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 11:40 PM
  Subject: Re: [VFB] IOFF ROLL-CALL


  1. I'm still here... it's the hard truth.  /Jester
  2. Here are two lists I found in VFB mails (2008)

  In the discussion that included the longer of the lists (second one): 
  (Quote) "We're at 50 on the list, but Vlad can be put on the regular list as 
he's not
  on the vfb right now. That means one last spot is available for the 50 
original charter 
  members of the IOFF.  DonO" (unquote)

  And Peggy was voted in.

  (Here is also a "list", incomplete but...: 
http://swedneckflyfishing.com/ioffswap2005.htm)

  IOFF BORED MEMBERS & COURT (Mar-08):
   
  President & Poster Child: Byard Miller 
  Chairpersons of the Bored:   Don Ordes, Buggs, Dr. D., Veronica 
  Secretary:Rene Zillman

  Vise President  Denny Conrad  
  Treasurer:Tony Spezio
  Director of Fanaticism: Mark Romero

  Seargent at Arms:Murf (In memorial)   
  King:   Hans Weilenmann   
  Queen:Joyce Westphal
  
  Prince: Tim Trexler (In memorial) 
  
  Princess:  Deb Duran   
  Court Jester:Nick Runarrson

  --

  MEMBER LIST (Aug-08):

  #1.  Byard Miller !!   The poster-child!!!
  2.  DonO, Buggs, Dr. Demento & Veronica
  3.  JimmyD Moore-   The Alpha Tier
  4.  Pete Gramp - lays his capes and saddles on the bed and rolls in them.
  5.  Rick Zieger
  6.  Denny ConradHas Chickabou-lined skivvies
  7.  Eric Worm
  8.  Monte Smith
  9.  Murf-   only because we're including psychos with the fanatics.
  10. Mark Romero- has tried making hackle wine and beer.  Gets light-headed, 
posts a lot.
  11. Gary Smith
  12. Ashley Strutt
  13. Allan Fish- has actually gotten drunk on Mark's hackleberry wine.
  14. 'Critter' Chris S. ?
  15. Rene Zillman
  16. Del Roberts -- like him, his flies are not too tightly wrapped.
  17. Tony Spezio
  18. Martin Westbeek
  19. Keith Passant- Is in the Guiness book of records- beer, that is.  Mr. TUI 
swap.
  20. Deb Duran- the quintessential "fanatic and don't know it yet"
  21. Vladimir Markov- honorary spot- flytying fiend  ex-vfb'er.
  22. Jimi Genzling (makes his own tying furniture and tools)
  23. Joyce Westphal - the Roadkill Queen.  (I wanna see your front 
bumper-accident, huh?)
  24. Ed Roden
  25. Iain Short
  26. Kevin Slater
  27.  Bob Haering (Has a Whiting saddle loincloth instead of a stuffed rooster)
  28.  Aaron Testerhall
  29.  Janet Schimpf
  30.  Jeff Frye- If you feel like a fanatic, you must be.
  31.  Nick Runarsson  The definitive emerging fanatic, our 'born-again' 
flytier.
  32.  Hans WeilenmanMr. #32, like, what's he compensating for, anyway.
  33.  Tim Trexler
  34.  John Ridderbos
  35.  Jim Burbank
  36.  Paul Mariner
  37.  Larry Johnson
  38.  Mike Bliss
  39.  Ray Gattus, Sr.
  40.  Bruce Whittle
  41.  Mark Delaney- specializes in coon-ass dubbing, whatever that is.
  42.  Alan Di Somma
  43.  Rob Poutre
  44.  Scott Sickau
  46.  Bart
  47.  Rodney Barrileaux
  48.  Ginger Allen
  49.  Sören Finn
  50.  Kevin Machon
-Ursprungligt meddelande-
Från: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com] För Don 
Ordes
Skickat: den 17 augusti 2011 07:06
Till: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Ämne: [VFB] IOFF ROLL-CALL


OK,

Who is still here from the IOFF?  (Does anyone have the list with the 
charter members?)

Roll call:

DonO



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