[VFB] Re: Tony Spezio's Peacock and Bronze

[John C. Bennett]

Do you have Microsoft office? It might have been created with one of the newer 
word programs. It opened just fine for me, but I have Microsoft office 2007

John Bennett
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LESTER BELL
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 9:00 AM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: [VFB] Re: Tony Spezio's Peacock and Bronze

Attachment does not open with my Windows XP.
Regards,  Skip
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From: Joseph Fusco, Sr.
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com ; 
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Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 6:46 PM
Subject: [VFB] Tony Spezio's Peacock and Bronze

There has been a flood of interest in Tony's "Peacock and Bronze".  For the 
convenience of everyone on both of the lists, I agreed to put a file together 
and send it out as a general mailings.  The file is attached.

--
Joe Fusco, Sr.
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[VFB] Re: QFTD

[John C. Bennett]

Not if they catch fish!

John Bennett
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Rick Zieger
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 8:45 AM
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Subject: [VFB] QFTD

"Do you ever get bored using the same flies?"

David Klausmeyer  summer 2009 "Fly Tyer"

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[VFB] Re: FW: for the list

[John C. Bennett]

I lived in Brazil for 2 years and that is the case in the large cities.

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jim phillips
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 4:51 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: FW: [VFB] Re: FW: for the list

Mark Sends:

May your GOD be your fishing partner.


From: markflie...@hotmail.com
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com; desert-tr...@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: [VFB] Re: FW: for the list
Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 15:29:43 -0600

for the list...
ALAN...ROTMFFLMFFAO..cat can't just be 
ugly.he gotta be BUTT 
ugly[http://gfx2.hotmail.com/mail/w3/ltr/emoticons/smile_teeth.gif][http://gfx2.hotmail.com/mail/w3/ltr/emoticons/smile_tongue.gif][http://gfx2.hotmail.com/mail/w3/ltr/emoticons/smile_omg.gif]...
been there, sient that..lmao

worse two places i ever saw REAL poverty was in Morocco and 
Brazil.these kids were so malnourished they be like 16 and look 
like the were 8 or 9 and the 8/9 yr. olds looked like they were 
4/5...it was horrible.


From: phxflyt...@cox.net
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: [VFB] Re: FW: for the list
Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 14:13:50 -0700

Don't go to Mexico.
Every time you stop for a red light a Butt Ugly kid comes up and washes your 
clean windshield from the last red light.



Thank you,
Alan Di Somma

Phoenix, Mexico's second largest city

Money will buy a fine dog, but only kindness will make him wag his tail.
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From: jim phillips
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 2:02 PM
Subject: [VFB] FW: for the list

Mark Sends
May your GOD be your fishing partner.


From: markflie...@hotmail.com
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com; 
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Subject: for the list
Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 13:58:51 -0600

Tony.tell 'em what it was like when you used to live in Jersey and you'd 
come into Manhattan...the SECOND you got outta the tunnel, lol. 
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> Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 21:54:49 +0200
> From: rene.zillm...@t-online.de
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [VFB] Re: Shopping Scam
>
>
> I have this all the time, when I'm in the Netherlands. With some slight
> differences:
> Jung ugly men
> they clean the windscreen
> they only want money
> they move over just to the next car.
>
> Rene
>
> iain short wrote:
> >
> > Over the last month I became a victim of a clever 'Eastern European'
> > scam while out shopping. Simply dropping into Wallmart in Blyth for a
> > bit of shopping has turned out to be quite traumatic. Don't be naive
> > enough to think it couldn't happen to you or your friends. Here's how
> > the scam works:
> >
> > Two seriously good-looking voluptuous 20-21 year-old girls come over
> > to your car as you are packing your shopping into the car.
> >
> > They both start cleaning your windscreen. Their large firm young
> > breasts almost falling out of their skimpy T-shirts. It's impossible
> > not to look, especially with all the rain we have been having.
> >
> > When you thank them and offer them a tip, they'll say 'No' and instead
> > ask you for a lift to another store, in my case, Tesco at Kenton.
> >
> > You agree and they both get in the back seat. On the way, they start
> > undressing, and both get completely naked. Then, when you pull over to
> > remonstrate, one of them climbs over into the front seat and starts
> > crawling all over your lap, kissing you, touching you intimately, and
> > thrusting herself against you, while the other one steals your wallet!
> >
> > I had my wallet stolen April 4th, 9th, 10th, twice on the 15th, 17th,
> > 20th, 24th, and 29th. Also May 1st, 4th, twice on the 6th, three times
> > last Saturday and very likely again this coming week-end. So Be Warned!
> >
> > P.S. Lidl have wallets on sale for £1.99 each, Aldi's are £1.75 and
> > look nicer.
> >
> >
> > 
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[VFB] Re: Wading experience...

[John C. Bennett]

Sounds like you had quite the time. I have always had trouble with fast 
currents. I only weight around 140 so even a light current will float me away 
without a wading stick. (yes it has happened). Glad you made it out alive and 
well.

John Bennett
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Niclas Runarsson
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 2:26 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: [VFB] Wading experience...

I have just come home from a nice week of grayling fishing in the northern 
Swedish river Hårkan... with a wading experience richer. The only "wader dip" I 
had before this was in White River 2006. That one must have been in the 
America's Funniest Home Videos league. Tony can testify on that. Water that's 
hardly moving... barely one foot deep... with a gravel bottom flat as a 
pancake... stumble on virtually nothing and landing on my chest.

This time the water was waist deep though and pushing quite hard. The bottom 
was rocky and far from wading friendly (and I had been close to fall several 
times during the week). It wasn't a "without wading stick" place (at least not 
to me, who is a careful dude). I heard the sound of a fish rising to my left 
and when I quickly turned my head to see where it was I felt a sligtht sign of 
losing balance. So I took a little step backwards... maybe 5-6"... slipped and 
fell backwards... and suddenly I was under the water. After fighting a couple 
of seconds I managed to turn around so I had my toes facing the stones and when 
I got a grip between the stones the stream towards my chest "helped" me to get 
up again. I turned to get up from the water and in the very next step I slipped 
again and fell face down. This time it didn't come as the same shock kind of 
thing as the first fall and I was able to actually THINK about how to get up, 
so I got back up standing without major problem.
I looked down and was going to reach for my wading stick and saw that the left 
pocket in my chest pack was empty... just as empty as the left big vest pocket. 
Downstream I saw three boxes getting smaller... a big compartment/slit foam box 
with dry flies, a slit foam box (swing leaf) of the same size with nymphs and 
another slit foam box with soft hackle flies. I had packed my boxes with flies 
before this trip, so there were more than a couple of flies disappearing 
there... and instincts took over.

I started to run downstream (as fast as you can, jumping on rocks with water up 
to your waist). The water got deeper though and when it reached just below my 
chest I stumbled and fell again. I had just reached the boxes, but at the same 
time I also reached a hole where it suddenly got much deeper. Trying to stand 
up again wasn't on the menu anymore and I started to swim. Swimming with the 
rod in one hand and 'catching' all three boxes was impossible. I knew that 
much. So I started to hit them one by one to get them upstream and closer to 
land. Then I swam a bit towards land myself until they reached me and it was 
time for the next "hit/swim" move again. After a couple of times repeating this 
I was at a depth where I could stand up again and just collecting the boxes 
coming towards me... and finally focus on leaving the water.

The night before this I had landed my (by far) largest grayling after a long 
fight on a #3 rod and in fast moving water,,, but I still think this was the 
took the prize as the "adventure of the trip". How I actually managed to 
salvage all three boxes and the rod (and myself) is beyond me. I must have had 
Him on my side. But you can't have anything. Back in the wind shelter we sat by 
the fire and I had changed into some reserve clothing and my wading jacket that 
I didn't wore when I fell. My soaking wet fleece sweater was hanging on a nail 
on the wall... right above my opened backpack. The water was dripping RIGHT 
down in the pocket where I kept the cellphone... and that was the end of his 
adventure. :oP

So, what have I learned from this trip?

*Be careful where you put your feet in the water. (I already knew that, so it 
was more of a reminder.) But keep your pockets closed. Careful or not... 
eventually you will still fall. Having given the extra second to close the 
pocket after putting the box back down can turn out to be worth both the time 
and the effort.
*When you have fallen, gotten up and are sitting there happy over still being 
alive and not having lost anything... it doesn't have to be over. Luck can turn 
quicker than you can imagine. Just because you keep stuff on land to keep it 
safe from the water doesn't have to mean that it's actually safe from the 
water. ;o)

/Nick

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[VFB] Re: for John Bennett SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap

[John C. Bennett]

Yes it is. It can be tied in may forms and styles but the way i tie them is the 
traditional wing style.

John bennett


From: iain short 
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 8:29 PM
To: VFB-new 
Subject: [VFB] for John Bennett SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap

John
is a stonefly a winged wet fly ?

have a look at this site
these are traditional winged wet flys
dont matter if you make the pattern up
as long as it fits the style.

Traditional Winged Wet Flys  BUT NOT STREAMERS !
The site below shows the type and style of fly.
http://globalflyfisher.com/patterns/bergman/

iain

I will tie these flies for the swaps:

Wet fly swap 1 = Stonefly

Wet fly swap 2 = Harley’s Revenge (Harley is an African Grey parrot that my 
in-laws have. I use feathers and colors from him that he sheds. It is called 
Harley’s revenge because his mate died when it had gotten hold of a fish from 
my in-laws fish tank and chocked. So every time I catch a fish with this fly it 
is a slight revenge for the bird.)

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[VFB] Re: SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap

[John C. Bennett]

None taken, both of these (the way i tie them) are tied in the traditional wing 
fashion.

Is that the purpose of this swap or is it to tie a classic old traditional 
winged pattern that everyone knows?


John bennett


From: Neville Gosling 
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 5:56 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Subject: [VFB] SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap

John:

Please don't take any offense but It seems to me that neither of your proposed 
flies constitute a traditional winged wet fly.


Neville (Nev) Gosling
Greater Vancouver,
B.C.  Canada


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John C. Bennett
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 1:50 PM
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Subject: [VFB] Re: SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap

I will tie these flies for the swaps:
Wet fly swap 1 = Stonefly
Wet fly swap 2 = Harley’s Revenge (Harley is an African Grey parrot that my 
in-laws have. I use feathers and colors from him that he sheds. It is called 
Harley’s revenge because his mate died when it had gotten hold of a fish from 
my in-laws fish tank and chocked. So every time I catch a fish with this fly it 
is a slight revenge for the bird.)


John Bennett
Lifetime Products, Inc.
Direct: (801) 513-9001
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[VFB] Re: SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap

[John C. Bennett]

I will tie these flies for the swaps:
Wet fly swap 1 = Stonefly
Wet fly swap 2 = Harley's Revenge (Harley is an African Grey parrot that my 
in-laws have. I use feathers and colors from him that he sheds. It is called 
Harley's revenge because his mate died when it had gotten hold of a fish from 
my in-laws fish tank and chocked. So every time I catch a fish with this fly it 
is a slight revenge for the bird.)


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From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
iain short
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 2:14 PM
To: VFB-new
Subject: [VFB] SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap

SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap IS FULL

If anyone entered both swaps you only pay postage once.
If entering both swaps dress Different fly's for each swap please.
Tie ten flies, toe tag them, send them to me by the end of august.
enclose 3 US dollars for return postage
iain short, 29 Rothesay Terrace, Bedlington, Northumbria, NE225PT. ENGLAND
All flies must be clearly marked second swap !

Name your fly

1. Deb Duran -
2. Jim Phillips -
3. Iain Short -
4. Mark Romero - Mallard and Claret
5. Garry Smith - Grizzly King
6. Reuven Segal -
7. Rene Zillmann -
8. George Vincent - Teal & Green
9. David Mason -
10.John Bennett -
11.Mike Bliss -

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[VFB] Re: SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap

[John C. Bennett]

Looks like I am not wanted in this one. I tried to sign up twice but both 
e-mails were ignored.  Forget it, I will join the next one if I am allowed.

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From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
iain short
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 10:50 AM
To: VFB-new
Subject: [VFB] SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap

SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap

There ONE place left - any Takers

If anyone entered in the first swap wants to enter both you only pay postage 
once.
If entering both swaps dress Different fly's for each swap please.

Limit is TEN entry's max !
Tie ten flies, toe tag them, send them to me by the end of august.
enclose 3 US dollars for return postage
iain short, 29 Rothesay Terrace, Bedlington, Northumbria, NE225PT. ENGLAND
All flies must be clearly marked second swap !

Name your fly

1. Deb Duran -
2. Jim Phillips -
3. Iain Short -
4. Mark Romero - Mallard and Claret
5. Garry Smith - Grizzly King
6. Reuven Segal -
7. Rene Zillmann -
8. George Vincent - Teal & Green
9. David Mason -
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[VFB] Re: SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap - ONE place left

[John C. Bennett]

Ok, count me in on this one to.


John Bennett

From: iain short 
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 1:36 PM
To: VFB-new 
Subject: [VFB] SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap - ONE place left
SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap

There ONE place left - any Takers

If anyone entered in the first swap wants to enter both you only pay postage 
once.
If entering both swaps dress Different fly's for each swap please.

Limit is TEN entry's max !
All flies must be clearly marked second swap !

Name your fly

1. Deb Duran -
2. Jim Phillips -
3. Iain Short -
4. Mark Romero -
5. Garry Smith -
6. Reuven Segal -
7. Rene Zillmann -
8. George Vincent -
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[VFB] Re: SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap - ONE place left

[John C. Bennett]

Ok, count me in on this one to.


John bennett


From: iain short 
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 1:36 PM
To: VFB-new 
Subject: [VFB] SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap - ONE place left

SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap

There ONE place left - any Takers

If anyone entered in the first swap wants to enter both you only pay postage 
once.
If entering both swaps dress Different fly's for each swap please.

Limit is TEN entry's max !
All flies must be clearly marked second swap !

Name your fly

1. Deb Duran -
2. Jim Phillips -
3. Iain Short -
4. Mark Romero -
5. Garry Smith -
6. Reuven Segal -
7. Rene Zillmann -
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[VFB] Re: New Swap

[John C. Bennett]

I would be interested.

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iain short
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 11:46 AM
To: VFB-new
Subject: [VFB] New Swap



 Anyone interested in a swap for 

"Traditional English Winged Wet flies"

<< Ten flies only>>

iain

look here to see what traditional wet fly means !

http://globalflyfisher.com/patterns/bergman/

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[VFB] Re: any one there ??

[John C. Bennett]

You also reached Utah, but been busy. I haven't even had time to fish.  :(

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Neville Gosling
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 11:39 AM
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Subject: [VFB] Re: any one there ??


 

Subject: [VFB] any one there ??



Whats happening ? 

Any one there ??

Iain - you reached Vancouver, Canada. Everyone seems to be busy.

Neville (Nev) Gosling
Greater Vancouver,
B.C.  Canada 






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[VFB] Re: Summer Time Bugs Fly Swap III

[John C. Bennett]

Count me in on this one. Steamers are newer to me so this will give me good 
practice.

John bennett


From: jim phillips 
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 7:32 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com ; 
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Subject: [VFB] Summer Time Bugs Fly Swap III

Letting you all know first.  Looking for tyers for this one as it will be my 
last for about six months as I start treatment in June.

Anyway we have until 15 Jun to sign up and 30 Aug to complete the flys.

Let's look at some more streamers (warmwater or coldwater)
(trout, gills, steelhead - your decision).

Self-addressed stamped envelops (MANDATORY), toe tags etc (all the normal rules 
or guideline) Again for our friends not in the US, send 3-6 extra flys and I 
will pay the postage back BUT you still need a self-addressed envelope.

Also will need your email address so I can make a group list of all the tyers. 
This will make it easier to keep everyone up to date.

I am off in the AM for a week of trolling for some trophy trout with my Chili 
Troll Fly. I will return next Thursday.

Some of the lurkers and newly signed up - get your vises dusted off and get to 
tying.

Deserttrout is out.


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Received the flies from the bug swap today in the mail. Great looking set. 
Thanks for hosting.


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[VFB] Re: Bug Swap -- Bugs A Flyin!

[John C. Bennett]

A few delays will happen. It is understandable. I just hope you are feeling 
better too.

Ive given up on the mayfly swaps from last year.

Thanks for hosting the swap. I sure they are worth the wait.


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Hey guys your bugs are winging their home! I aplogize for the delay had a 
couple of drop uots that kept stringing  me along.  they never bother to send 
their flys in or say they had dropped out!



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[VFB] Re: Soft-hackle Flies

[John C. Bennett]

Received mine as well. Great looking flies. Thanks for hosting.


From: Rick Zieger 
Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 12:20 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Subject: [VFB] Re: Soft-hackle Flies

I got the flies in also.  I have to say that mine was the usgliest of the whole 
batch.
Thanks to all the swappers and the swapmeister.

Rick
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Subject: [VFB] Soft-hackle Flies
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, May 1, 2009, 3:19 PM

Swappers of the soft-hackle swap- received the flies yesterday and I must say 
that these are some of the best flies I've see in a swap so far (10+yrs).  I'll 
try to get a photo of them later to post here, as I feel these flies shouldn't 
pass quietly into a drift without some publicity.

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[VFB] Fly tying bench/station

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Here are pictures of the converted vanity that i use for my fly tying. I am 
currently remodeling our craft room so all my fly tying stuff is boxed up or in 
a travel case, so it looks real clean. The best part that i like about the 
tying station is the mirror. I can take unique pictures of tied flies. The 
picture would capture both sides of the fly.

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[VFB] Re: low cost tying station Under $25)

[John C. Bennett]

I guess my tying table/station cost more than $25 when it was first bought. I 
have converted a vanity that belonged to my wife when she was a teenager. It 
has multiple drawers and places to put stuff. The best part about using that is 
the lid opens up to more storage, but the lid has a mirror mounted to its 
underside. I can lift up the lid and see the backside of the fly that I am 
tying without having to use the rotation of my vise. It also is great for 
taking pictures of finished flies, with one picture you can capture both sides.

John Bennett
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I recently made a "portable" tying desk out of my old cabinet fronts. I 
replaced the kitchen cabinets & saved the oak fronts; doors & frames. I took 
one of the smaller doors & frames apart,  cut the frame so I had a 2" vertical 
back & right side to attach to the door front & drilled holes in the side piece 
for tools. I haven't decided whether I'm going to put dowels in the back for 
spools or attach a rotating rack for spools & dubbing. I drilled two holes in 
the front edge to attach my Nor vise. Now I can move my operations to the first 
floor when Marcie has hens over for basket weaving. I'll have a picture of the 
prototype later.

J

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ks Iain
I have aroll top desk I bought 20 years ago in the Philippines. Plus a portable 
(movable station).
I saw thie below DIY station this morning and thought I would share it with the 
list. That is a nice writing desk tho'
Jim
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Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 15:59:10 +

Jim

Not quite as cheap but...
try you local salerooms for second hand furniture and get a writing bureau 
bookcase
this ones on English eBay
Item No. 160329244098 (Cut and paste number into eBay search bar)
plenty of storage foldaway work top and bookcase all in one place.

With the recession there should be more of this sort of thing turning up at 
auction houses

I came home to find my Edwardian solid walnut bureau full of fly tying gear 
been emptied onto the floor and moved downstairs by Linda.  I now have a modern 
oak one in my office as a tying desk, it just not as nice...

iain



Here is an article I found regarding building a budget fly tying station.

Here is the Link: http://www.tvangler.com/?p=228

Cutting boards available at Walmart

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[VFB] Re: Post My Mess - photos

[John C. Bennett]

I'm game, but the only thing is that I am currently remodeling my craft room, 
so all my tying happens on a small table that I have to clean up every time I 
am done. I have a vanity that I use for my tying table. It is nice because I 
can lift the lid to it and it has a big mirror that I can see the back side of 
the fly as I am tying. I'll post a picture when I can.

John Bennett
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Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 11:31 AM
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Subject: [VFB] Post My Mess - photos

Since we can post photos here now, anybody want to do a 'Post My Mess' photo 
thread.
I've found that if I do the 'rich text' and 'insert picture' command, the photo 
shows up in a box I can downsize by dragging a corner.  Rene used to have to 
post to his site, but now we can save him the trouble.

This may help one another with ideas on how to arrange materials and tools.  
Don't clean up, as we need to know how it looks when flies are being tied.

Any takers?
DonO


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Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 9:59 AM
Subject: [VFB] Re: low cost tying station Under $25)

Jim

Not quite as cheap but...
try you local salerooms for second hand furniture and get a writing bureau 
bookcase
this ones on English eBay
Item No. 160329244098 (Cut and paste number into eBay search bar)
plenty of storage foldaway work top and bookcase all in one place.

With the recession there should be more of this sort of thing turning up at 
auction houses

I came home to find my Edwardian solid walnut bureau full of fly tying gear 
been emptied onto the floor and moved downstairs by Linda.  I now have a modern 
oak one in my office as a tying desk, it just not as nice...

iain



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I received the flies in the mail . Thank you.

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[VFB] Re: DVD is here

[John C. Bennett]

I already tie my wooly buggers using the method. It locks in the hackle so that 
the fly is more durable.

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Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 1:49 PM
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Exactly what I was thinking.  I have several patterns I use regularly
that I would like to modify when I get this down.

Mike

On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 8:47 AM, DonO  wrote:
>
> Mike,
> I've created a DVD Order folder and am putting all emails of those
> interested and of those ordering into it.
>
> Like I mentioned before, VFB'ers get a 25%+/- discount.  I'm waiting for
> Jack Dennis to view the DVD and get his comments, one of which will be
> pricing suggestions.
>
> Since the rope-dub is a technique, not a pattern or recipe, the applications
> will be literally for thousands of patterns, both old ones up-graded with
> the rope-dub and new ones designed based on the rope-dub's capabilities.
> The bottom line, of course, is fishability.  With buggy-looking segmentation
> and near bullet-proof durability, it's perfect for the flyfisher who wants
> great fishing flies.  The speed and ease will allow that same tier to tie 5
> times as many flies in the same time.  If you want to design new patterns,
> it extends the realm of 'dubbung' 10-fold, allowing the use of materials for
> dubbings and styles of dubbing that haven't been seen before.
>
> DonO
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Michael Bliss" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 12:07 PM
> Subject: [VFB] Re: DVD is here
>
>
>
> DonO
>
> Let me know when it's ready to sell.  I have Tony's series.  I would
> like to get yours.
>
> Mike
>
> On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 2:51 AM, J Balmer  wrote:
>> Count me in when it's finished. If you want help editing, let me know.
>>
>>
>>
>> J
>>
>>
>>
>> From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf
>> Of DonO
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 10:22 PM
>> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: [VFB] DVD is here
>>
>>
>>
>> For those interested in the rope-dub dvd...
>>
>>
>>
>> I got the initial proof/draft DVD for the video tying sequences from the
>> video-man. I stuck it in the TV and Cheryl sat down to watch it with me.
>> She was amazed. She's seen me demo-ing the rope-dub for the last 8 years,
>> but she said the DVD was even better than seeing me tie in person (that's
>> hard to believe, since I'm so good-lookin'). She was also amazed at how
>> many tying techniques were included, telling me that I could make 3 DVDs
>> with that much information. I told her I was already working on DVD #2 and
>> it had a lot more advanced applications.
>>
>>
>>
>> From my standpoint it looked pretty good, but needs a lot more editing and
>> photo inserts. How many tying sequences are there? 24 that I counted, not
>> including the talking and fly demo sections, and it doesn't include the
>> fishing sequence up front or the credits and ad pages at the back. The
>> rope-dub is so quick, and I'm only tying the tail ends (not the finished
>> pattern), that the tying sequences don't take very long at all.
>>
>>
>>
>> There's a lot for someone to work on, but the tying sequences coupled with
>> various photos should allow pausing and rewinding so that tough parts can
> be
>> reviewed. Only problem I could see was that my big 'ol ball-park
>> frankfingers were getting in the way all the time. We used 2 camera
> angles,
>> so hopefully we can get good views of all ties.
>>
>>
>>
>> I cancelled my trip to Idaho this week-end because of the storm moving in-
>> supposed to be 2 to 4 feet of snow up in the western mountains
>> (Jackon/Wilson areas) so the passes may get closed (our route). I'll have
>> to wait for a later date to meet up with Jack Dennis to review it with
> him.
>>
>>
>>
>> From my first view, I am very satisfied and I'm looking forward to getting
> a
>> couple more initial reviews from seasoned tiers.
>>
>>
>>
>> If you have any questions, please fire away.
>>
>>
>>
>> And Byard- you get yours for free, of course (signature edition). I'll
> chat
>> with you off-list.
>>
>>
>>
>> DonO
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>>
>
>
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[VFB] Re: DVD is here

[John C. Bennett]

I'll get one when it is finished. You can never have enough information about 
fishing, tying and new or different techniques.

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DonO
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 10:22 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: [VFB] DVD is here

For those interested in the rope-dub dvd...

I got the initial proof/draft DVD for the video tying sequences from the 
video-man.  I stuck it in the TV and Cheryl sat down to watch it with me.  She 
was amazed.  She's seen me demo-ing the rope-dub for the last 8 years, but she 
said the DVD was even better than seeing me tie in person (that's hard to 
believe, since I'm so good-lookin').  She was also amazed at how many tying 
techniques were included, telling me that I could make 3 DVDs with that much 
information.  I told her I was already working on DVD #2 and it had a lot more 
advanced applications.

>From my standpoint it looked pretty good, but needs a lot more editing and 
>photo inserts.  How many tying sequences are there?  24 that I counted, not 
>including the talking and fly demo sections, and it doesn't include the 
>fishing sequence up front or the credits and ad pages at the back.  The 
>rope-dub is so quick, and I'm only tying the tail ends (not the finished 
>pattern), that the tying sequences don't take very long at all.

There's a lot for someone to work on, but the tying sequences coupled with 
various photos should allow pausing and rewinding so that tough parts can be 
reviewed.  Only problem I could see was that my big 'ol ball-park frankfingers 
were getting in the way all the time.  We used 2 camera angles, so hopefully we 
can get good views of all ties.

I cancelled my trip to Idaho this week-end because of the storm moving in- 
supposed to be 2 to 4 feet of snow up in the western mountains (Jackon/Wilson 
areas) so the passes may get closed (our route).  I'll have to wait for a later 
date to meet up with Jack Dennis to review it with him.

>From my first view, I am very satisfied and I'm looking forward to getting a 
>couple more initial reviews from seasoned tiers.

If you have any questions, please fire away.

And Byard- you get yours for free, of course (signature edition).  I'll chat 
with you off-list.

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[VFB] Re: test

[John C. Bennett]

I read all three from you. Nice to
know that that your ok. It is raining here in utah as well.

John bennett


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[VFB] Re: Braiding, now weaving

[John C. Bennett]

Thanks for the link. It took me a couple times to get the hang of it but i 
think it will work great.

John bennett


From: Niclas Runarsson 
Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 7:51 AM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Subject: [VFB] Braiding, now weaving

Sorry... forgot the link. Syntax error north of neck. LOL

But HERE it is: http://www.swedneckflyfishing.com/parallelweave_steps.htm

And a couple of examples:
http://www.danica.com/FLYTIER/nrunarsson/bitch_creek_slim_sparkly.htm
http://www.danica.com/FLYTIER/nrunarsson/swimming_damsel_nymph.htm<http://www.swedneckflyfishing.com/damselnymph.htm>

/Nick
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Ämne: [VFB] Re: Braiding, now weaving

Where is it,.
I have seen your flies woven like that, they are top notch
Tony

--- On Sat, 4/4/09, Niclas Runarsson  wrote:

From: Niclas Runarsson 
Subject: [VFB] Braiding
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Saturday, April 4, 2009, 8:20 AM

Here's my SBS describing the Parallel Weave. Fingers only and no knotting.

/Nick
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Ämne: [VFB] Re: Braiding

Rene,
It is still waving using other means besides your fingers..LOL
With weaving thread, it is easier doing it with a crochet needle or a Knit 
Picker.
A Knit picker is what I use on my Knitpikin Mayfly.
Arkansas Tony

--- On Sat, 4/4/09, Rene Zillmann  wrote:

From: Rene Zillmann 
Subject: [VFB] Re: Braiding
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Saturday, April 4, 2009, 6:55 AM


Or crocheting? Here you will find Tony as an expert.
Rene


Anthony Spezio schrieb:
> Do you mean weaving.
> Arkansas Tony
>
> --- On *Fri, 4/3/09, John C. Bennett //* wrote:
>
>
> From: John C. Bennett 
> Subject: [VFB] Braiding
> To: "Flyfishing for Panfish"
> , "vfb-mail"
> 
> Date: Friday, April 3, 2009, 8:40 PM
>
>
> I have been toying with braiding caddis flies the last couple
> weeks. I am starting to like the look of it on some flies. Does
> anyone else braid and if so what flies do you use it on. I am
> always looking for new patterns and this is something new for me.
>
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[VFB] Braiding

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I have been toying with braiding caddis flies the last couple weeks. I am 
starting to like the look of it on some flies. Does anyone else braid and if so 
what flies do you use it on. I am always looking for new patterns and this is 
something new for me.

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[VFB] Re: GOOD MORNING

[John C. Bennett]

It is kinda rainy in my neck of the woods, but slightly warmer. Wish i could 
fish today.

John bennett


From: J McK 
Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 7:16 AM
To: Fly Swap 
Subject: [VFB] GOOD MORNING


Hello

Fellow fly tyers;  Hope all is well in everyone's area of the country and
this being Friday we can possibly go fishing this weekend.

TIGHT LINES

Jerry McKaughan,President
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[VFB] Re: HELLO were all here

[John C. Bennett]

Honestly, I can't remember what I even tied for that swap. It will be a 
pleasant surprise (if we receive them.)

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Subject: [VFB] HELLO were all here


Well it's raining in Russellville, AR, the tempeture is 58 degrees and cloudy.

I wish I was at the tying bench instead of work.


Still looking for my mayflies from Montana that I send almost a year ago.


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[VFB] Re: Anybody here???

[John C. Bennett]

Since I have been a part of the group this has happened a couple of times. I 
think that with the spring weather and being able to go outside, the traffic on 
the group will be low for a while.

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Subject: [VFB] Re: Anybody here???

Hang in there Rene, it will come back.
Tony

--- On Wed, 4/1/09, Rene Zillmann  wrote:

From: Rene Zillmann 
Subject: [VFB] Re: Anybody here???
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, April 1, 2009, 12:49 PM

Don,
I'm still here, but I'm wondering whether I am to leave the group.
Rene
DonO schrieb:
> Tap-tap-tap... whoo..whoo!.. testing 1, 2...testing 1, 2... Anybody
> there???
>
> Does 'VFB' stand for 'Very Few Buddies' now???
>
> Where are all of the IOFF'ers these days?
>
> DonO
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[VFB] Re: Old fart swap

[John C. Bennett]

I squeezed in as a mascot. I didn't meet the age requirement, but as my wife 
always tells me, i act like one. Jimmy was gracious enough for that to count. I 
hope everyone enjoys and "can see" my entry.

John bennett

-Original Message-
From: Allan Fish 
Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 6:07 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Subject: [VFB] Old fart swap


For all those who have not yet received their Old Fart Swap flies,
you're in for a really great treat.

But there are at least two in that mix that make me wonder if they
are really qualified to have been in the swap.

Tony Spezio's un-named L.B.F. and John Bennett's Royal Wulff are both
so tiny that no qualified Old Fart could see to tie the bloody things!

They both made my measly size 20 Griffiths Gnat look like a giant!

And the fly names are exceptional too.  CRS Special was my favorite.

Can't Remember why, though;-)


a.
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[VFB] Re: Old fart swap

[John C. Bennett]

That is the classic sign of being an old fart. I hope that i am that way when i 
am up in years. Due to the new baby last year i am starting to see signs of 
that setting in.

john


From: Jimmy D. Moore 
Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 3:39 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com ; 
rene.zillm...@t-online.de 
Subject: [VFB] Re: Old fart swap

DUH!! You are in the OF swap, Dumkopf.  I mailed your flies day before 
yesterday.

JIMMY D

Rene Zillmann wrote:

Seems to be a neat swap, what a pitty that I missed it
Rene

Jimmy D. Moore schrieb:


Tim Caillouette.  Don't know why Tim didn't put toe tags on them.  Neat fly.

JIM

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Received the swap back in the mail today. They are all great, only question, 
who tied the silver streamer?


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[VFB] Old fart swap

[John C. Bennett]

Received the swap back in the mail today. They are all great, only question, 
who tied the silver streamer?


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[VFB] Re: QUOTE FOR THE DAY

[John C. Bennett]

So true, there is nothing better than a warm day on the water with friends or 
family, a fish on your line and a drink in your hand. Makes all the worries go 
away.

john


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Subject: [VFB] QUOTE FOR THE DAY


"For the rich, there is therapy. For the rest of us, there is FISHING!"

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[VFB] Re: The lift - was Active Nymphing

[John C. Bennett]

I used to use a yarn strike indicator, but i have now changed to using this and 
i enjoy using it. I also don't have issues using it.

-Original Message-
From: Tom Davenport 
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 11:21 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Subject: [VFB] Re: The lift - was Active Nymphing


Unlike Tony, I have no problems at all with a strike indicator,
especially when making long casts into deep holes that would be
impossible to fish with the high stick method.  Heck, I don't even
care if you call it a bobber instead of a strike indicator. In fact my
favorite strike indicator LOOKS like a bobber, it is called the
"Thingamabobber"  (here is a link if you want to see one:  
http://www.cabelas.com/prod-1/0054523320531a.shtml
   )  It is lightweight, unsinkable, can be easily adjusted at
any point on the leader.  I use the smallest one they make.   But I
don't let the fact I have a strike indicator on stop me from high
sticking, I will do it anyway when the line gets into high sticking
territory.  The strike indicator helps you see the slight "pause" in
drift of the line when a fish is taking your nymph.

Tom
On Feb 16, 2009, at 4:07 PM, Michael Bliss wrote:

>
> This discussion has been very helpful for me both in understanding
> Osthoff's book and the process.  Now I want to talk about the "lift".
> Can you make me feel this?  We are at the end of the swing.  I assume
> the flyrod is pointing straight down the river at the fly.  Simply
> raise the fly rod?  Slowly?  Thanks again,
>
> By the way, I think I am a very good nymphing fisherman.  However, I
> do my best to dead drift with no unnatural action or drag.  But this
> is a new concept and I am trying to conceptualize it.  Also I use a
> strike indicator.  I have fished without it and I feel it gives me
> more information not just on the strike but also on the way the
> current is affecting my line and hence my fly.  I would like some
> feedback on this as well.  I know many good fisherman don't as those
> on the list have indicated but many very good ones do based on my
> observation and reading.  It would be interesting to get the viewpoint
> of those that don't how they deal with determining drag
>
> Mike
>
> On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Anthony Spezio
>  wrote:
>> Tom and you are men after me own heart. I did not have anyone to
>> teach me
>> but I found out that doing it this way had been real effective for
>> me. That
>> drift with some twitching has taken a lot of fish when others had a
>> hard
>> time catching fish. That "lift" at the end of the swing is deadly.
>> I would
>> say I catch about 90% of my fish there when nymping or using buggers.
>> I am self taught and have never had the desire to use "bobbers". I
>> know I am
>> stepping on some toes but to me worms and bobbers go together.. LOL
>> Tom, any time you can come by, you are welcome, we will miss you at
>> the
>> Sowbug.
>> Tony
>>
>> --- On Mon, 2/16/09, George  wrote:
>>
>> From: George 
>> Subject: [VFB] Re: Active Nymphing was QUOTE FOR THE DAY
>> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
>> Date: Monday, February 16, 2009, 10:55 AM
>>
>> Absolutely Tom, I couldn't agree more with your observations. When
>> I started
>> nymphing without a strike indicator, my catch rate increased. I
>> have used
>> the same technique and have also caught fish at all stages of the
>> presentation.
>>
>> The fly is only part of the technique, the rest is presentation,
>> presentation, presentation.
>>
>> Keeping the fly in the water is very important, even fishing out a
>> bad cast
>> can produce a catch. I can usually spot a novice by watching the
>> number of
>> false casts. The fly in the water is what catches the fish, the fly
>> in the
>> air doesn't.
>>
>> George Vincent
>> 
>> From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com]
>> On Behalf
>> Of Tom Davenport
>> Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 18:34
>> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: [VFB] Re: Active Nymphing was QUOTE FOR THE DAY
>>
>> I learned to fly fish about 15 years ago when a friend helped me
>> get rigged
>> up and taught me how to cast and fish.  He was a nymph fisherman
>> (anyone who
>> fishes the Weber River where I fish most often is) and he taught me
>> to dead
>> drift the fly behind a strike indicator.   Later I talked to
>> another friend
>> who had been a fly tyer and fly fisher for years, and asked him if
>> he used a
>> strike indicator and the dead drift.  He said no, he always used a
>> shorter
>> line and followed it as it drifted through the deep holes.  So I
>> tried his
>> technique and started catching more fish.  Several years later I
>> realized
>> what I was doing is called "High Sticking" and it is still my
>> preferred
>> method to dig a bunch of fish out of a deep hole.  It always
>> includes a lift
>> at the end, and often I strip it back, and have caught fish both
>> ways.  Also
>> with a nymph and a swing, especially when there a

[VFB] Re: Soft Hackle Swap FULL

[John C. Bennett]

What is the deadline?


From: J McK 
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 6:56 PM
To: Fly Swap 
Subject: [VFB] Soft Hackle Swap FULL



THe swap is full, I look forward to my first host swap.  Don't
forget a bakers dozen thirteen flies.

Soft Hackle Swap2009


1Jim Phillips
2Wes Wada
3Neville Gosling
4Iain Short
5Michael Bliss
6George Vincent
7Gary Webb
8   Rick Zieger
9   Don Ordes
10  Jim Hodson
11  John Bennett
12  Peggy Brenner
13  Jerry McKaughan


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[VFB] Re: Soft Hackle Swap

[John C. Bennett]

Count me in. Ill be tying an "aftershaft."

John bennett


From: J McK 
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 7:23 AM
To: Fly Swap 
Subject: [VFB] Soft Hackle Swap


Just one more time to seeif I can get TWO (2) more tyers.

Soft Hackle Swap2009


1Jim Phillips
2Wes Wada
3Neville Gosling
4Iain Short
5Michael Bliss
6George Vincent
7Gary Webb
8   Rick Zieger
9   Don Ordes
10  Jim Hodson
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12
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[VFB] Re: New Swap - any takers

[John C. Bennett]

I was trying to, but i never heard a response.

-Original Message-
From: Neville Gosling 
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 9:16 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Subject: [VFB] Re: New Swap - any takers


I think that you should direct your question to the swapmeister.

Neville (Nev) Gosling
Greater Vancouver
B. C.   Canada


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Of John C. Bennett
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 8:14 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: [VFB] Re: New Swap - any takers


It has been so long, i had forgotten about that. What happened?

-Original Message-
From: Neville Gosling 
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 9:09 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Cc: 'Chris Broomell' 
Subject: FW: [VFB] New Swap - any takers


Chris:

We are still waiting for the mayfly dry fly & the  mayfly nymph swap to be
distributed to the participants. Please get on with it.

Neville (Nev) Gosling
Greater Vancouver, BC
Canada


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Of Chris Broomell
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 2:42 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: [VFB] New Swap - any takers


Hi all,

OK - so it's been about 20 years since I've participated in a swap.
However, (now that I live someplace where I can fish more often AND since I
am done with
school) I think that it's time to rectify that situation.

Is anyone interested in joining a Mayfly swap?
Dries, any style (parachute, Catskill, traditional, etc.)

Depending on interest it can be:
A) - 12 tiers, one bug each
or
B) - 6 tiers, two bugs each.

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[VFB] Re: New Swap - any takers

[John C. Bennett]

It has been so long, i had forgotten about that. What happened?

-Original Message-
From: Neville Gosling 
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 9:09 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Cc: 'Chris Broomell' 
Subject: FW: [VFB] New Swap - any takers


Chris:

We are still waiting for the mayfly dry fly & the  mayfly nymph swap to be
distributed to the participants. Please get on with it.

Neville (Nev) Gosling
Greater Vancouver, BC
Canada


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Of Chris Broomell
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 2:42 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: [VFB] New Swap - any takers


Hi all,

OK - so it's been about 20 years since I've participated in a swap.
However, (now that I live someplace where I can fish more often AND since I
am done with
school) I think that it's time to rectify that situation.

Is anyone interested in joining a Mayfly swap?
Dries, any style (parachute, Catskill, traditional, etc.)

Depending on interest it can be:
A) - 12 tiers, one bug each
or
B) - 6 tiers, two bugs each.

Chris







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[VFB] Re: BUG SWAP _ HELP

[John C. Bennett]

You should already have mine, it was a nymph

 John Bennett
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Subject: [VFB] BUG SWAP _ HELP
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 14:03:36 -0500

Hey guys my computer died, got a new one, but I lost the list of tyers & 
material list.  Anyone have it?  I need to match up the names of the flys I 
have received and who is left.  If yours are not in please let me know where 
you are, flys are due March 1st.



Thanks much

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[VFB] Re: Active Nymphing was QUOTE FOR THE DAY

[John C. Bennett]

During the winter months, I nymph most of the time just because there is 
nothing raising. I agree with the you on the lifting technique, I use that same 
thing in the rivers here in Utah.

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From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
DonO
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 2:19 PM
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Subject: [VFB] Re: Active Nymphing was QUOTE FOR THE DAY


Mike,

Some species of nymphs are swimmers, some are clingers, some are burrowers.
If he is short-stripping a nymph (but not darting), he is probably
imitiating a swimmer variety.  Dead-drifting works for imitating clingers,
and also burrowers that get washed up out of the dirt.  All they can do is
drift downstream until they hit something they can cling on to, or end up in
an eddy (or a gut).

Depending on the fish and other circumstances, one way may work and the
others won't.  One thing that does work for me is the lifting technique,
imitating a nymph that is rising to the surface.  Whatever way I drift the
nymph, at the end of the cast I make a slow deliberate lift to the surface,
pausing before I pull the nymph from the water, especially if it ends up in
slack water.

Like you, my most productive nymphing is dead-drifting with a strike
indicator down the seams in the river, where the still or slow water meets
the fast water.  Next I'll choose area in front of obstructions and then
directly behind.  If that doesn't work, I'll look for deep pockets and
eddies.  I have rig-ups and lines for all types of approaches and
nymph-sinking methods.  In the N. Platte R., that puppy's got to be bouncing
along the bottom- seems to trigger the takes.

But all of this happens only if the dry-fly fishing is unproductive or if
it's just too windy for dries.

D




- Original Message - 
From: "Michael Bliss" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 1:46 PM
Subject: [VFB] Active Nymphing was QUOTE FOR THE DAY


>
> I am reading a book called "Active Nymphing: Aggressive Strategies for
> Casting, Rigging, And Moving the Nymphs"  By Rich Osthoff.  In the
> book he talks of moving the nymph, not just like streamer fishing but
> casting upstream and stripping the nymph (not streamer).  I am a dead
> drifter almost all of the time and this is new to me.  Anyone do this
> and can you shed some perspective on this?
>
> Mike
>
> >
>
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[VFB] Re: QUOTE FOR THE DAY

[John C. Bennett]

Most of the time i will fish the same spots so the waiting and watching goes 
faster.


From: Neville Gosling 
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 12:38 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
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Very true, however I am often too eager to start fishing instead of waiting, 
watching & trying to figure out the best holding lies for the fish and then the 
best metod to approach them without scaring the fish.

Neville (Nev) Gosling
Greater Vancouver, BC
Canada


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Subject: [VFB] QUOTE FOR THE DAY

"Fish slowly and thoroughly. Haste never pays dividends. Don't whip the stream 
to a froth. Make fewer casts.  Make them to places which count an fish each 
cast out instead of lifting it prematurely."

Ray Bergman "Trout"

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Heard ya

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[VFB] Re: Spring Has Sprung Fly Swap III is FULL!!!

[John C. Bennett]

Lol, i'm not. That is why it has a title of step child.


From: J Balmer 
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 7:52 PM
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I didn't even know you were red-headed.


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Jim,

Put me down for a “red headed step-child”

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Jim: I'm gonna ATTEMPT to tie "Articulated Woolly Buggers". I guess if somebody 
lives in an area where two hooks are not allowed, they can just clip one hook 
off at the bend LOL,  Chuck

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Subject: [VFB] Spring Has Sprung Fly Swap III is FULL!!!

We have our tyers. Please send me the bugger you will tie if you have not done 
so already.
We have some great tyers involved and I anticipate that this will be an 
OUTSTANDING Swap.
Jim


1. Wayne Blake-Hedges - Beadhead Pautuxent Special sz10
2. Joe Fusco, Sr - TBD
3. Chuck Alexander - TBD
4. Jerry Caruso - Fun Foam Bugger RE: The Disco Bugger
5. Jim Hodson- TBD
6. John Bennett -TBD
7. Doublehaul - TBD
8. Bill Sciotti - TBD
9. Dave Masson
10. Mark Romero
11. Jack Morris
12. Joyce - Vern's Fat Bugger

Miester: Jim Phillips -  TBD

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Jim,

Put me down for a "red headed step-child"

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Jim: I'm gonna ATTEMPT to tie "Articulated Woolly Buggers". I guess if somebody 
lives in an area where two hooks are not allowed, they can just clip one hook 
off at the bend LOL,  Chuck

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Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 6:23 PM
Subject: [VFB] Spring Has Sprung Fly Swap III is FULL!!!

We have our tyers. Please send me the bugger you will tie if you have not done 
so already.
We have some great tyers involved and I anticipate that this will be an 
OUTSTANDING Swap.
Jim


1. Wayne Blake-Hedges - Beadhead Pautuxent Special sz10
2. Joe Fusco, Sr - TBD
3. Chuck Alexander - TBD
4. Jerry Caruso - Fun Foam Bugger RE: The Disco Bugger
5. Jim Hodson- TBD
6. John Bennett -TBD
7. Doublehaul - TBD
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9. Dave Masson
10. Mark Romero
11. Jack Morris
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[VFB] Re: Taking a Break - JIMMY D

[John C. Bennett]

Hope you feel better

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Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 2:53 PM
To: Virtual Fly Box ; Fly Fishing World 
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Subject: [VFB] Taking a Break - JIMMY D


I'm taking a "breather" from the Quote For The Day and the Joke For The
Day Club.  I'm battling a severe case of Cedar Fever.  The Cedar pollen
count in Central Texas is the highest it's been in 15 years.  Haven't
felt like doing much of anything.  Hope to be back in Action by the
first of next week.

If anyone wants to "spell" me, just let me know.

JIMMY  D


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[VFB] Re: Old farther swap

[John C. Bennett]

Tiemco 32

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I'm looking forward to examing your size 32 Royal Wulfs.  Question: What
brand of  size 32 hook did you use to tie your Wulfs?  Tiemco? Mustad?
 A 32 Mustad is much larger than a Tiemco 32.  Also, does your 32's have
a hook eye or a spade?  There is a big difference between sizes among
different manufacturers.

JIMMY D

John C. Bennett wrote:

>It took me a while to tie them all but 25 size 32 Royal Wolffs are on their 
>way to your place of residence. My eyes still hurt from trying to see the 
>little buggers.
>
>I hope that everyone enjoys them and thanks again for hosting the swap.
>
>John
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Old fart swap. Sorry i'm trying to type this on my phone.

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It took me a while to tie them all but 25 size 32 Royal Wolffs are on their way 
to your place of residence. My eyes still hurt from trying to see the little 
buggers.

I hope that everyone enjoys them and thanks again for hosting the swap.

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[VFB] Old farther swap

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It took me a while to tie them all but 25 size 32 Royal Wolffs are on their way 
to your place of residence. My eyes still hurt from trying to see the little 
buggers.

I hope that everyone enjoys them and thanks again for hosting the swap.

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[VFB] Re: QUOTE FOR THE DAY

[John C. Bennett]

My wife feels that very same way.


From: Jimmy D. Moore 
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 8:03 AM
To: Virtual Fly Box ; Fly Fishing World 
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Subject: [VFB] QUOTE FOR THE DAY

"The joy of owning fine tackle is so great that it is often difficult to 
distinguish between basic needs and the urge to possess that which delights the 
sensitivities. I have preached against indulgence, but in truth I am a 
sentimental moron when it comes to fishing tackle. How can one find adequate 
words to describe the sweet feel of a rod that makes casting an esthetic 
delight, yet which adds little to one's ability to catch fish?"

"The Philosophical Fisherman"
by Harold Blaisdell


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[VFB] Re: QUOTE FOR THE DAY

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Reminds me of a story that happened last winter. We were stream fishing on the 
Provo River and there was about a foot of snow of the ground. We had been there 
most of the day and had walked back and forth on this one area that had a lot 
of branches nearby. As we were leaving for the day, one of the people with us 
fell into a hole that was waist deep. Nothing was broken but a bruise or two. 
We were surprised that it hadn't given way on us before. 

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Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 7:19 AM
To: Virtual Fly Box; Fly Fishing World; Bill Higdon
Subject: [VFB] QUOTE FOR THE DAY


"The angler who doesn't look before he leaps will have his next cast 
made of plaster."

Patrick F. McManus


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[VFB] Re: Moffitt Angling System

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I've never seen it, I'll have to look into it and tie a few up just to try it.

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Subject: [VFB] Moffitt Angling System

Now to get off of the subject of me and onto flyfishing.  I was given a Fly 
Fisherman Magazine and it talked about this new (to me anyway) catch and 
release system.  Essentially the fly or flies have no hook but are attached up 
the leader.  When a fish takes the fly the fisherman  sets the hook, and is 
snagged in the side of the mouth by small, barbless, specially designed catch 
and release hook.  According to the article the system was tested for years on 
thousands of fish caught, and mortality rates were far greater since the fish 
seldom is hooked in sensitive areas, and the release is very quick.

Have any of you seen or fished with this system?  Or tied flies for it?

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[VFB] Re: BUG SWAP IMPORTANT PLEASE READ! YOU MUST SIGN UP ON THIS POST!

[John C. Bennett]

Mine went in the mail today.

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What is your address?

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Rules.
1. Due Date Feb 28, 2009
2. You must use the material you selected and one other from the material list.
3.  Self addressed post paid return shippers or make arrangements with me.
  Send to:
  Bob Haering
  5050 Parview Dr
  Clarkston Mi 48346

4. MOST IMPORTANT!  Have fun and be creative!

Material List
1. foam open or closed cell.
2. CDC
3. marabou
4. J Gold Pheasant
5. Chartreuse Grizzly Hackle -- other tyers may use natuarl or other colors
6. Turkey or Goose Biots
 7. Jerry McKaughan  -- ???
 8. Natural Raffia
 9. Balsa wood
10. copper wire
11. Squirrel tail and Fluorescent Wool
12. peacock
13.
14.
15.

Thanks
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- Original Message -
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To: VFB<mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 2:03 PM
Subject: [VFB] BUG SWAP IMPORTANT PLEASE READ!

First off I am expanding the swap to a total of 15.  If this is a promblem 
please remove yourslf from the list.  Also make sure your name is on the list.  
You must sign up on this post, by adding your name to the bottom to be included!
Please include the material you will use in your fly.  You will also be 
required to tye with some of the other materials members have selected.

1. Bob Haering -- HOST -- foam open or closed cell.
2. John Bennett - CDC
3. Allan Fish -- marabou
4. J Balmer - Gold Pheasant
5. Jimi, --Chartreuse Grizzly Hackle -- other tyers may use natuarl or other 
colors
6. Dail Grahm -- Turkey or Goose Biots
 7. Jerry McKaughan  -- ???
 8. Rene -- Natural Raffia
 9. Gary Webb -- Balsa wood
10. Jim Hodson -- copper wire
11.  iain short -- Squirrel tail and Fluorescent Wool
12. Rick Zieger -- peacock
13.
14.
15.

Thanks
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[VFB] Re: searching for river witch pattern

[John C. Bennett]

There was a lot of hits when I searched so I hope that that was what you was 
looking for

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Subject: [VFB] Re: searching for river witch pattern

Thanks for your kind help. I do appreciate it. Joyce



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[VFB] Re: searching for river witch pattern

[John C. Bennett]

Or here is an improved one.


http://www.flytyingforum.com/pattern470.html


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Your kind help is requested to find the recipe and, if possible, a picture of a 
River Witch fly. You can reply off list with an attachment if you find it, or 
if you send me a link, I'll be fine. Thanks for your help. Joyce



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[VFB] Re: searching for river witch pattern

[John C. Bennett]

Here is a different one that what Allan sent.

http://www.angelfire.com/wa/salmonid/fly86.html

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Subject: [VFB] Re: searching for river witch pattern

Your kind help is requested to find the recipe and, if possible, a picture of a 
River Witch fly. You can reply off list with an attachment if you find it, or 
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[VFB] Re: Happy New Year

[John C. Bennett]

I know that with myself I have been busy with family and such during the 
holidays. I think when the dead of winter is upon us we will see more posts.

Is there any new year resolutions out there? Mine is to fish more often

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Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 2:55 AM
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Subject: [VFB] Happy New Year

HAPPY NEW YEAR.
 To everyone on the list

Is the list slowing a bit ? I dont seem to see many postings by a lot of the 
old members ( Dono Nic Rick etc )

I know I dont post much but still enjoy reading the comments and banter.

Wishing you all the best for 2009 and especially hope it's a great fishing year.


Birdie
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[VFB] Re: QUOTE FOR THE DAY

[John C. Bennett]

Thanks for giving us the your wisdom and jokes. It breaks up the work day.

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No Quotes or Jokes today and tomorrow.  Taking off for Christmas.  Will 
resume Quotes and Jokes on Friday.

Here's wishing all my fly fishing/tying friends on the Virtual Fly Box, 
Fly Fishing World and Hill Country Fly Fishers E-mail lists and 
Jokesters a Very Merry Christmas and a safe and Happy New Year.  My five 
kids and eight grandkids will all be here for Christmas and the Moore 
House will become the Nut House for a couple of days.

It's a pleasure to send a ray of sunshine into each of your Inboxes each 
day.  Hope your Christmas and New Year brings you good health and

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[VFB] Re: Off-topic, but a moral

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Glad that you are alright

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Condensed version.  I had a little heaviness in my chest Sunday 
morning.  It got worse.  Got hauled off to the heart hospital.  I had 
a clog.  Heart Cath. got it repaired and I got back home yesterday. 
No heart attack - caught it in time.

Moral to the story:  If you feel ANYTHING a little squirrely going on 
in your chest and think there MIGHT be something going on, get into 
the E.R. immediately.  Do NOT wait till you have a heart attack and 
get heart damage.

Far better to find that it was a false alarm than to find that oops - 
I shoulda come in earlier.

Merry Christmas, Happy Channukah, and wonderful holidays to all

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[VFB] Re: Tom Davenport in Hospital

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Nathanael, I was one of your dads students in high school. I graduated in 2000. 
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This is Nathanael Davenport, Tom Davenport's son. He asked me to write  
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[VFB] Re: Your first fly you tied

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My father still uses those in the high mountains of Utah next his cabin. That 
was his first fly he tied. I carry a few in my box. It's a great fly for those 
situations.

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.
T'was a Renegade, a bi-visible style fly popular in the High Desert waters of 
the U.S.  It was 1978, and I was a young pup hanging around Ruel Stayner's fly 
shop, in Twin Falls, Idaho.  Ruel suggested the fly as an ideal first fly for a 
beginning flytyer.

The fly long since went to trout fly heaven, after rusting away in a tree 
branch alongside an Idaho stream, or something like that.  I don't fish them in 
Oregon, but would definitely have some if I were back fishing in Idaho.

Here's a photo off the web of what a Renegade looks like:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/109/292329642_f3a351d495.jpg?v=0

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[VFB] Re: Your first fly you tied Swap + Story

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I'd be interested

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Just thinking, have not hosted a swap in a while, was wondering if anyone 
would be interested in a "First Fly" swap? Could make it a bit interesting 
if each tier included a story of how they decided to tie the fly, how they 
got started and the results.

I could put this into a word document so that each would not only have the 
pattern, but the story with it about how you got started.

Anyone interested?
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[VFB] Re: Your first fly you tied

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I bet if you tied up some just like it, it would catch a fish or two. Kinda 
looks like a fuzzy caterpillar or grub.

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My first was the ugliest thing ever. I didn't have a pattern to follow, just 
tied what I thought a fly should look like. I had not even started fly fishing, 
so I was really just guessing. It turned out to be some sort of Wolly Worm 
Mutant, and I keep it in a film canister and when I have a hard time tieing 
flies, I take a look to see how far I have come. :)



On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 10:54 AM, Desert Eagle  wrote:
>
> Mine was a "Mudler Minnow", with a west Texas twist, from the pattern 
> in "McClain's Standard Fishing Encyclopedia". It caught my very first 
> trout, a Brown, on the north fork of the south Platt river in Colorado about 
> 1968.
>
> Have several of the decimated kin in my very first fly box, but the 
> first was lost to a rock fish along that same river a few days later.
>
> Very fond memories. Thanks for helping me remember.
> Jimi
> USCG ITWPATWT 100% Vet
>
> Here is an interesting question. What was your first fly that you 
> tied? Do you still have it? Do you still tie that same pattern and use 
> it for fishing.
>
> My first fly (I'll have to post a picture of it) was a Mickey Finn 
> Streamer w/ Peacock tied over the top. I still have it displayed in a 
> case in our front room. People once and awhile will ask about it. It 
> was the first fly that a beginner fly tying kit instructed me to tie.
>
>  John Bennett
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[VFB] Re: Your first fly you tied

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I've only been tying/fly fishing for about 10 years now. I hope I can look back 
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Mine was a "Mudler Minnow", with a west Texas twist, from the pattern in 
"McClain's Standard Fishing Encyclopedia". It caught my very first trout, a 
Brown, on the north fork of the south Platt river in Colorado about 1968.

Have several of the decimated kin in my very first fly box, but the first 
was lost to a rock fish along that same river a few days later.

Very fond memories. Thanks for helping me remember.
Jimi
USCG ITWPATWT 100% Vet

Here is an interesting question. What was your first fly that you tied? Do 
you still have it? Do you still tie that same pattern and use it for 
fishing.

My first fly (I'll have to post a picture of it) was a Mickey Finn Streamer 
w/ Peacock tied over the top. I still have it displayed in a case in our 
front room. People once and awhile will ask about it. It was the first fly 
that a beginner fly tying kit instructed me to tie.

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Here is an interesting question. What was your first fly that you tied? Do you 
still have it? Do you still tie that same pattern and use it for fishing.

My first fly (I'll have to post a picture of it) was a Mickey Finn Streamer w/ 
Peacock tied over the top. I still have it displayed in a case in our front 
room. People once and awhile will ask about it. It was the first fly that a 
beginner fly tying kit instructed me to tie.

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[VFB] Re: Ugh! Texas Weather

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I thought 20* was cold on my way to work this morning.

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9 degrees for the high, and -1 for the low in snowy Bend, Oregon.

Here's a look at the roads between Bend in central Oregon and Portland in NW 
Oregon.
http://www.info-fx.com/bend2portland_roadcams.html

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[VFB] Re: Project Healing Waters

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There was a program a while back on there that Orvis would match your donation 
to them but I don't know if that is still going on.

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John: Thanks, I JUST emailed their administrator, Chuck

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Chuck, I know that casting for recovery could use some help. For anyone that 
knows someone who went through that, it can be a hard process.

http://www.castingforrecovery.org/

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Jack: Thanks a lot... I'm hoping they need flies. Or, I'm gonna see if there
is ANYTHING else I could do to help, Chuck   Disabled Air Force Vet
1975-1981

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>
> http://projecthealingwaters.org/
>
> and thank you
>
> Jack
> sgt infantry '69-'71
>
> boosbooksandbarga...@earthlink.net wrote:
>> Can anybody give me an email address to contact the  "Project Healing
>> Waters" ?? Thanks, Chuck
>>
>> >
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Chuck, I know that casting for recovery could use some help. For anyone that 
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Jack: Thanks a lot... I'm hoping they need flies. Or, I'm gonna see if there
is ANYTHING else I could do to help, Chuck   Disabled Air Force Vet
1975-1981

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>
> http://projecthealingwaters.org/
>
> and thank you
>
> Jack
> sgt infantry '69-'71
>
> boosbooksandbarga...@earthlink.net wrote:
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>>
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Heard ya

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[VFB] Re: Old fart fly swap tying update

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I think I will have my eyes checked after I finish them to see if I ruined my 
eyes during the process

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If I had a year to tie them I would maybe do that. ;)

 John Bennett

John,

If I had a year to tie ONE of them, it'd be dicey on getting it done!


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If I had a year to tie them I would maybe do that. ;)

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John
Being that the fly is sp small, you should send at least three of them for each 
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Subject: [VFB] Old fart fly swap tying update

[cid:image001.gif@01C95478.180DDC20]
Because I am the "mascot" of the old fart fly swap and I am trying to tie a fly 
smaller than I have ever done before (size 32 royal wulff), I thought I would 
give an update to the status of my tying. Thanks to Tony, I was able to find 
hackle small enough to fit a size 32 hook. (Tony, by the way, the hackle works 
great. thanks) I sat down and tied 5 of the 25 needed. That was all my eyes 
could handle in one sitting. I even had to pull out the magnifying lens on my 
tying light to see what I was doing. I was even tempted to try the 2.5x power 
reading glasses that I found on the river when I was on vacation. (Being 27, 
I've never had to use them for anything yet). It is a good thing that we have 
until February to finish the swap. I will need the whole time to get these done.


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This is true, except in June, then you can throw about anything

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"The thing to remember when fishing the Green River in Utah is this: If you can 
see your fly on the water, it is too big."

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Because I am the "mascot" of the old fart fly swap and I am trying to tie a fly 
smaller than I have ever done before (size 32 royal wulff), I thought I would 
give an update to the status of my tying. Thanks to Tony, I was able to find 
hackle small enough to fit a size 32 hook. (Tony, by the way, the hackle works 
great. thanks) I sat down and tied 5 of the 25 needed. That was all my eyes 
could handle in one sitting. I even had to pull out the magnifying lens on my 
tying light to see what I was doing. I was even tempted to try the 2.5x power 
reading glasses that I found on the river when I was on vacation. (Being 27, 
I've never had to use them for anything yet). It is a good thing that we have 
until February to finish the swap. I will need the whole time to get these done.


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[VFB] Re: Funny Story

[John C. Bennett]

I watched a show on the discovery channel that installed a camera on a fish 
looking lure for sharks in the ocean to watch their feeding habits. I wonder 
how small they could make the camera. Could it fit on a size 10, 12 or even 
smaller hook.

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Chuck,
interesting gadget. I guess the next step are cameras, which will be
incorporated into lures, or streamer.
I should patend a pattern 'Adams Camera'.
Rene



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  Folks: I heard a funny story today. My wife and i were at our
brand new 150,000+ sq ft Bass Pro shop today and were just looking
around  (mostly in the fly fishing/tying section), but we came upon
these Cameras that  you have a little 5 or 7 inch "TV screen" and you
drop the camera over board and  see if there are any fish around.
Well, the guy who worked there was talking to  us and told us a guy
came in Saturday and said "I need to get one of these, My  wife says
she's tired of my holding her head under the water to look for the
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[VFB] Re: QUOTE FOR THE DAY - WHISKEY FISHING

[John C. Bennett]

I would also be in. I always carry a flask with me on the river for those cold 
days when you step out of the river and you can't feel your legs. It helps 
bring them back to life. I don't take whiskey with me but I'll have to refill 
the flask with it when I finish off the rum I have in it now.

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Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 9:56 AM
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Subject: [VFB] QUOTE FOR THE DAY - WHISKEY FISHING

I thought a little levity was in order for the day, since all we hear and see 
is how bad things are.  Yep, I wrote this, so if you take issue with any part 
of it or don't get even a tiny laugh, just E-mail me. . . . . . .  Oh never 
mind.  Me, I don't give a damn.

Have a Good Un!

JIMMY D

" In my younger days, some of my buds and I played in a Twi-Light golf 
tournament each Wednesday evening during the summer.  Entry fee was $10.  Cheap 
enough.  At each Tee Box was a garbage can of iced down  Lone Star Beer.  
Seemed that the more we drank, the better we played and whether or not we won 
the pot, we didn't care.  Most of us got our $10 back in the beer we drank. 
That was the most fun I ever had playing golf. I remember putting out on the 
18th with onlooker's cars parked in the grass and their headlights shining on 
the green so we could see how to putt, those of us who could still stand up. :-P

I'm sure we could work something similar with trout fishing and whiskey.  ( I 
chose whiskey instead of beer, since that's our stereotype image - pipe 
smoking, fancy whiskey drinking, tweedy, hoite toite Abercrombie & Fitch 
appearance.)  18 garbage cans of cold whiskey would be a little 'over the top', 
so we could use small buckets filled with miniatures of our favorite whiskeys, 
placing them in the cold water at the edge of selected pools, riffles and runs. 
Total cost would be minimal as would the entry fee.  It would be understood 
that we'd each down a bottle of our preference at each placement of the 
whiskey. It'd be great fun and we wouldn't give a damn who won or if we caught 
any trout. This being a whiskey drinking contest, fish caught wouldn't count 
anyway. ;-)

Those still standing at the end would be declared the winner(s)  and would 
receive a 'Texas Fifth' of McKendric Mesquite Mellowed whiskey - McKendric 
Longhorn Creek or McKendric Western.   Each of us would probably need a 
'designated caster' after downing dozen or so bottles. His job would also 
entail keeping us from drowning and seeing us home safely.

Why would Abercrombie & Fitch types stoop so low as to enter an event like 
this?  Why indeed?  Most folk of this type boast of how  much whiskey they can 
drink and still be standing.  I think it's called PRIDE. In this case, PRIDE 
BEFORE THE FALL ! :-P  My money would be on the bourbon drinkers, since we're 
not quite as tweedy, and therefore tougher than the A&F bunch.





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I just wanted to let everyone know how my trip to the Island Park Idaho 
(Madison River) went. The weather was as expected, cold and snowy. That didn't 
stop us from getting our feet wet. The river was the lowest that I had ever 
seen it. That condensed the fish into the deeper channels changing the fishing 
completely from the busy season. There was a nice midge hatch going on when we 
arrived at Reynolds Pass pull off, just below earthquake lake. I ended up 
catching my share of fish for the day (over 15 rainbows and one Brook trout). 
They weren't the biggest fish in the river but they gave a pretty good fight. I 
caught ¾ of the fish on a red WD-40, which was surprising due to the fact that 
the midge hatch was a dark olive (I didn't understand it either). Overall it 
was a good trip. My family enjoyed seeing Yellowstone and the Grand Tetons.


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[VFB] Island Park, Idaho Vacation/Fishing trip

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FYI, I will be without computer communication from today at 5pm mountain 
standard time until the 17th of this month due to a family vacation/fishing 
trip to Island park, Idaho. (Crossing my fingers that the weather will lighten 
up so I will have a good time on the Madison and Henry's rivers.) So if you are 
wanting a response from me concerning any of the fly swaps or anything else, 
the only way to reach me is by phone. If needed call my work phone # below and 
I will be checking my messages about once a day.



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[VFB] Re: QUOTE FOR THE DAY

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That explains everything.  LOL

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"The truth is that live-bait fishing has a long and noble history. Live bait 
was totally unknown to the early caveman, who had to make do with a rather 
limited assortment of dry flies, nymphs, and a few streamers. One day, whether 
out of exasperation or simple impatience, a caveman made a backcast with a gray 
hackle he had not bothered to remove from a sage hen. Instantly, it was taken 
by a brontosaurus. The caveman was elated by his discovery, even though it was 
several centuries before anyone learned how to take the brontosaurus off the 
hook."

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[VFB] Re: Feather smell

[John C. Bennett]

It sounds like you had a fun time with that one. I bet your significant other 
was thrilled with you that day. I was thinking that you could have tied it to 
the top of your van or on the grill as a trophy.

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From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony 
Spezio
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 5:35 AM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: [VFB] Re: Feather smell

The white part of the tail can be a substitute for Polar Bear as can other 
parts of white fur.
This was a road kill in perfect shape, not smashed so I thought I would skin it 
out. It was a cold day and I was at a friends shop on the lake. I put the skin 
in my new van with the windows closed. It did not smell in the cold air outside 
where I skinned it. The sun warmed up the air in the van and no need to tell 
you, it was cold driving the 40 miles home  with all the windows open.I tried 
washing the pelt and several other things to get the smell off the skin. I 
finally tried Borax and Joy, that did it and left the skin part nice and white 
and no smell.
Tony

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Subject: [VFB] Feather smell
To: "'vfb-mail@googlegroups.com'" 
Date: Tuesday, October 28, 2008, 1:18 PM
I'll have to try that. BTW-what do you use the skunk pelt for?

 John Bennett
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From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony 
Spezio
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 12:11 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: [VFB] Re: OFS now Feather smell

Wash the skin in Borax and a bit of Joy dish soap. Rinse it well in fresh water 
then use a hair dryer set on cool to dry it. The air will fluff the feathers 
back to normal. That is what I found to remove skunk small from a Skunk pelt. 
If it works on skunk stink, it should work on the partridge.
Arkansas Tony

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From: John C. Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [VFB] RE: OLD FART Update 10/28 # 1
To: "'vfb-mail@googlegroups.com'" 
Date: Tuesday, October 28, 2008, 9:43 AM
I was thinking that I have an old grouse pelt that smells pretty rancid. I 
could use that for the set of flies for this swap. It would go along with the 
theme. Anyone have a gas mask I can use? j/k My dog runs out of the room when I 
open the zip lock bag. I will save you all from passing out when you open your 
box. I'll find something else to use.

 John Bennett
Engineer Tech
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From: Jimmy D. Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 7:07 AM
To: John C. Bennett; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
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Subject: OLD FART Update 10/28 # 1

RULES for OLD FART SWAP

Be at least 50 years of age, or thereabout :-P , and a confirmed Old Fart.  If 
you won't admit to being an Old Fart,  I'm sure your wife will vouch for you! 
LOL   I dropped the age limit  when it seemed we didn't have enough over 65 Old 
Farts to make a decent Swap.  AARP starts their Senior program at age 50, so 
there you go!

Tie a fly of your own design, or whatever, preferably one of your favorites. 
Type of fly - trout, salmon, salt, panfish, etc., Size of fly is up to you.  
Time frame for flies to me would be around the first of February, with the 
usual toe tags, (little tags with name of fly and your name and email address), 
 return postage & packaging or pre-stamped return package.  HOW MANY FLIES TO 
TIE ?? At this point, you would tie 13 flies to send to me. It'll always be one 
fly below the total number, cause you don't need to tie one for yourself.

FLY TYERS SIGNED UP AS OF 7:30 Tuesday morning, (today), are listed below. 
We'll give it a day or so, and take a look at how many we have signed up. Don't 
want to over work us Old Farts.  New folks wanting to join, just hit reply and 
type your name below the last one on the list.

Note: By your comments, I deduced that those of you listed below wanted to be 
an Old Fart.  But . . . . if you didn't and don't want to be in the swap, let 
me know.

Tight Lines and Smooth Whip Finishes to all.

JIMMY D. MOORE, 9409 Mesa Verde Circle, Woodway, TX 76712

Jimmy Moore
Joe Fusco
Everett Hall
Chuck Alexander
Jerry Caruso
Melvin Rowe
Dail Graham
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Louis Olvitt
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[VFB] Re: Mayfly and Mayfly Nymphs

[John C. Bennett]

Chris, what part of Montana are you in? I will be on vacation Nov. 7-14 in 
Island park, Idaho, but we will be going into Montana to fish during that time. 
Any suggestions on what to take, etc.

 John Bennett
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Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 6:59 PM
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Subject: [VFB] Mayfly and Mayfly Nymphs


Nobody has missed anything...except for their flies.

I promise that they will get to you...significant issues here in Montana
right now.

I also promise that I haven't been fishing with them.  Or fishing at
all, for that matter.

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[VFB] Feather smell

[John C. Bennett]

I'll have to try that. BTW-what do you use the skunk pelt for?

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Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 12:11 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: [VFB] Re: OFS now Feather smell

Wash the skin in Borax and a bit of Joy dish soap. Rinse it well in fresh water 
then use a hair dryer set on cool to dry it. The air will fluff the feathers 
back to normal. That is what I found to remove skunk small from a Skunk pelt. 
If it works on skunk stink, it should work on the partridge.
Arkansas Tony

--- On Tue, 10/28/08, John C. Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: John C. Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [VFB] RE: OLD FART Update 10/28 # 1
To: "'vfb-mail@googlegroups.com'" 
Date: Tuesday, October 28, 2008, 9:43 AM
I was thinking that I have an old grouse pelt that smells pretty rancid. I 
could use that for the set of flies for this swap. It would go along with the 
theme. Anyone have a gas mask I can use? j/k My dog runs out of the room when I 
open the zip lock bag. I will save you all from passing out when you open your 
box. I'll find something else to use.

 John Bennett
Engineer Tech
W-(801)513-9001
F-(801)728-1970
E- [EMAIL PROTECTED]



From: Jimmy D. Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 7:07 AM
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
*Jimmy Moore; Virtual Fly Box; Fly Fishing World; Hill Coountry Fly Fishers
Subject: OLD FART Update 10/28 # 1

RULES for OLD FART SWAP

Be at least 50 years of age, or thereabout :-P , and a confirmed Old Fart.  If 
you won't admit to being an Old Fart,  I'm sure your wife will vouch for you! 
LOL   I dropped the age limit  when it seemed we didn't have enough over 65 Old 
Farts to make a decent Swap.  AARP starts their Senior program at age 50, so 
there you go!

Tie a fly of your own design, or whatever, preferably one of your favorites. 
Type of fly - trout, salmon, salt, panfish, etc., Size of fly is up to you.  
Time frame for flies to me would be around the first of February, with the 
usual toe tags, (little tags with name of fly and your name and email address), 
 return postage & packaging or pre-stamped return package.  HOW MANY FLIES TO 
TIE ?? At this point, you would tie 13 flies to send to me. It'll always be one 
fly below the total number, cause you don't need to tie one for yourself.

FLY TYERS SIGNED UP AS OF 7:30 Tuesday morning, (today), are listed below. 
We'll give it a day or so, and take a look at how many we have signed up. Don't 
want to over work us Old Farts.  New folks wanting to join, just hit reply and 
type your name below the last one on the list.

Note: By your comments, I deduced that those of you listed below wanted to be 
an Old Fart.  But . . . . if you didn't and don't want to be in the swap, let 
me know.

Tight Lines and Smooth Whip Finishes to all.

JIMMY D. MOORE, 9409 Mesa Verde Circle, Woodway, TX 76712

Jimmy Moore
Joe Fusco
Everett Hall
Chuck Alexander
Jerry Caruso
Melvin Rowe
Dail Graham
Tim Caillouet
Louis Olvitt
Peggy Brenner
John Bennett
Jack Lehman
Lee Kirchner
Tony Spezio (14)





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[VFB] RE: OLD FART Update 10/28 # 1

[John C. Bennett]

I was thinking that I have an old grouse pelt that smells pretty rancid. I 
could use that for the set of flies for this swap. It would go along with the 
theme. Anyone have a gas mask I can use? j/k My dog runs out of the room when I 
open the zip lock bag. I will save you all from passing out when you open your 
box. I'll find something else to use.

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From: Jimmy D. Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 7:07 AM
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
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*Jimmy Moore; Virtual Fly Box; Fly Fishing World; Hill Coountry Fly Fishers
Subject: OLD FART Update 10/28 # 1

RULES for OLD FART SWAP

Be at least 50 years of age, or thereabout :-P , and a confirmed Old Fart.  If 
you won't admit to being an Old Fart,  I'm sure your wife will vouch for you! 
LOL   I dropped the age limit  when it seemed we didn't have enough over 65 Old 
Farts to make a decent Swap.  AARP starts their Senior program at age 50, so 
there you go!

Tie a fly of your own design, or whatever, preferably one of your favorites. 
Type of fly - trout, salmon, salt, panfish, etc., Size of fly is up to you.  
Time frame for flies to me would be around the first of February, with the 
usual toe tags, (little tags with name of fly and your name and email address), 
 return postage & packaging or pre-stamped return package.  HOW MANY FLIES TO 
TIE ?? At this point, you would tie 13 flies to send to me. It'll always be one 
fly below the total number, cause you don't need to tie one for yourself.

FLY TYERS SIGNED UP AS OF 7:30 Tuesday morning, (today), are listed below. 
We'll give it a day or so, and take a look at how many we have signed up. Don't 
want to over work us Old Farts.  New folks wanting to join, just hit reply and 
type your name below the last one on the list.

Note: By your comments, I deduced that those of you listed below wanted to be 
an Old Fart.  But . . . . if you didn't and don't want to be in the swap, let 
me know.

Tight Lines and Smooth Whip Finishes to all.

JIMMY D. MOORE, 9409 Mesa Verde Circle, Woodway, TX 76712

Jimmy Moore
Joe Fusco
Everett Hall
Chuck Alexander
Jerry Caruso
Melvin Rowe
Dail Graham
Tim Caillouet
Louis Olvitt
Peggy Brenner
John Bennett
Jack Lehman
Lee Kirchner
Tony Spezio (14)






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[VFB] Re: Old Fart Swap

[John C. Bennett]

Would the age of 65 or older have to be your legal age? My wife tells me that I 
act like an old bitter fart all the time.

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Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 8:53 AM
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Subject: [VFB] Old Fart Swap

Morning Gang!

Just thinking it's time for me to host another Swap. Those of you who have 
participated in one of my 15 previous ones seem to have enjoyed the fun and 
frivolity of my "Off the Wall" swaps.

I've meistered March Madness I & II, Colors I & II, Retiree, Ham Radio, Chili 
Pepper, Eagle Scout, Blues I & II, Jody's Courage, Renegade, Steelhead, 
Redneck, & Murf Memorial.

To make this one really different, I'm thinking of an OLD FART SWAP!  You'll 
need to be at least 65 years old before the end of this year, ore thereabout.  
The fly you'd tie would be one of your own design, preferably one of your 
favorites, fly size up to you.  At this point, I'm just testing the water. As 
those of you who have participated in my seaps before already know, there'll be 
around 25 participants.  Could be more.  Could be less, depending on the number 
of OLD FARTS who can still do a whip finish. :-) ;-) :-P :-D

Time frame for flies to me would be around the first of February, with the 
usual toe tags, return postage & packaging or pre-stamped return package.

I look forward to hearing from you OF's who can still tie a fly.

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[VFB] Re: AW: [VFB] RE: Winter Streamer Swap 2 Update

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Received a great set of streamers from Dave masson over the weekend. The winter 
streamer fly swap is moving along nicely. I will be sending an update sometime 
today.

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Hi john my flies are in the mail, should have them in about a week or so
dave

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Hi John,
my Flies are ready to mail,
what do you think how much will the return postage cost (I will put some bucks 
in the pakage - we cant
buy US stamps)
Thomas

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Sorry I can't type it is a winter swap not a sinter swap (no idea what that 
would in tell). I haven't had my coffee this morning.

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Just a quick up date for the persons involved with the swap. One month has 
passed and I have received 3 sets (2 plus mine). Again the tying deadline is 
December 1.

If you have any questions, please let me know.

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[VFB] Re: BUG SWAP Update & Material List so far

[John C. Bennett]

I will be trying to use as many as I can but still make a fly that will work.

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Subject: [VFB] Re: BUG SWAP Update & Material List so far


**Bob,
hmm, just 2 materials or are additional materials (from the list) allowed?
Rene
*_*

*
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>
> *_Rules_*.
> 1. Due Date Feb 28, 2009
> 2. You must use the material you selected and one other from the
> material list.
> 3.  Self addressed post paid return shippers or make arrangements
> with me.
> 4. MOST IMPORTANT!  Have fun and be creative!
>
> *_Material List_*
> 1. foam open or closed cell.
> 2. CDC
> 3. marabou
> 4. J Gold Pheasant
> 5. Chartreuse Grizzly Hackle -- other tyers may use natuarl or
> other colors
> 6. Turkey or Goose Biots
>  7. Jerry McKaughan  -- ???
>  8. Natural Raffia
>  9. Balsa wood
> 10. copper wire
> 11. Squirrel tail and Fluorescent Wool
> 12. peacock
> 13. stripped quills
> 14.
> 15.
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> BobH
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[VFB] Re: BUG SWAP IMPORTANT PLEASE READ! YOU MUST SIGN UP ON THIS POST!

[John C. Bennett]

What is your address?

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Rules.
1. Due Date Feb 28, 2009
2. You must use the material you selected and one other from the material list.
3.  Self addressed post paid return shippers or make arrangements with me.
4. MOST IMPORTANT!  Have fun and be creative!

Material List
1. foam open or closed cell.
2. CDC
3. marabou
4. J Gold Pheasant
5. Chartreuse Grizzly Hackle -- other tyers may use natuarl or other colors
6. Turkey or Goose Biots
 7. Jerry McKaughan  -- ???
 8. Natural Raffia
 9. Balsa wood
10. copper wire
11. Squirrel tail and Fluorescent Wool
12. peacock
13.
14.
15.

Thanks
BobH
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Subject: [VFB] BUG SWAP IMPORTANT PLEASE READ!

First off I am expanding the swap to a total of 15.  If this is a promblem 
please remove yourslf from the list.  Also make sure your name is on the list.  
You must sign up on this post, by adding your name to the bottom to be included!
Please include the material you will use in your fly.  You will also be 
required to tye with some of the other materials members have selected.

1. Bob Haering -- HOST -- foam open or closed cell.
2. John Bennett - CDC
3. Allan Fish -- marabou
4. J Balmer - Gold Pheasant
5. Jimi, --Chartreuse Grizzly Hackle -- other tyers may use natuarl or other 
colors
6. Dail Grahm -- Turkey or Goose Biots
 7. Jerry McKaughan  -- ???
 8. Rene -- Natural Raffia
 9. Gary Webb -- Balsa wood
10. Jim Hodson -- copper wire
11.  iain short -- Squirrel tail and Fluorescent Wool
12. Rick Zieger -- peacock
13.
14.
15.

Thanks
BobH
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[VFB] Re: NEW SWAP BUGS -- UPDATED

[John C. Bennett]

What % of the material do we have to use?

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Great the interest is there!!  Total of 10 (ten tyers) so 9 (nine) are needed.  
As an added twist, when you sign up add a material.!  So.. Add your name to the 
list and the material you would like to see used.  The maaterial you pick YOU 
MUST USE!  For the due date I am thinking the end of Jan.
If you expressed interest to my first post please make sure you sign up!

1.   Bob Haering -- HOST -- foam open or closed cell.
2.John Bennett - CDC
3.   Allan Fish --  marabou
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.

Thanks
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[VFB] Re: NEW SWAP BUGS

[John C. Bennett]

Once everyone signs up, Bob, will you send out the final list?

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Subject: [VFB] NEW SWAP BUGS

Great the interest is there!!  Total of 10 (ten tyers) so 9 (nine) are needed.  
As an added twist, when you sign up add a material.!  So.. Add your name to the 
list and the material you would like to see used.  The maaterial you pick YOU 
MUST USE!  For the due date I am thinking the end of Jan.
If you expressed interest to my first post please make sure you sign up!

1.   Bob Haering -- HOST -- foam open or closed cell.
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.

Thanks
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[VFB] Re: NEW SWAP BUGS

[John C. Bennett]

Great the interest is there!!  Total of 10 (ten tyers) so 9 (nine) are needed.  
As an added twist, when you sign up add a material.!  So.. Add your name to the 
list and the material you would like to see used.  The maaterial you pick YOU 
MUST USE!  For the due date I am thinking the end of Jan.
If you expressed interest to my first post please make sure you sign up!

1.   Bob Haering -- HOST -- foam open or closed cell.
2.   John Bennett - CDC
3.
4.
5.
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7.
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[VFB] Re: nay one interested -- Bug Swap

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I would be interested

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Hey guys,
   Thinking of hosting a bug swap.  to make it interesting I will come up with 
a list of materials to be used.  Your fly must use a certain percentage of 
these materials.  Anyone game?

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[VFB] Re: [flyfishingandflytyingforpanfish] We're home from my wife's surgery

[John C. Bennett]

I know how it is to help with rehab. My wife used to be a CNA at a hospital. 
She would help the people in and out of bed, etc. Just before we were married, 
she had a rather large lady (300 lb) fall on her. My wife had a broken ankle 
and a clicking in her knee. After the cast came off, it was a good 6 months 
before she would go pain free the whole day. It still bothers her once and a 
while if she is on it a lot, but she was in rehab for a long while. It really 
slows them down.

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John: Thanks.. We're waiting on the rehab nurse to get here right now, but I 
have been helping my wife with her exercises four times a day since her 
surgery. Chuck

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I'm glad to hear that everything went well. Good luck on the recovery.

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Subject: [flyfishingandflytyingforpanfish] We're home from my wife's surgery

Folks: I brought my wife home from the hospital late this afternoon. Surgery 
went great. Imagine them being able to replace a knee in just 56 minutes.  
Anyway, so far, so good. She is in a lot of pain, which is to be expected with 
a 13 inch incision down the front of her left knee..But other than that, she is 
walking with a walker, and is able to bear all the weight she can handle on 
that leg already.. Thanks to all for the thoughts and prayers. Please keep them 
coming because now begins the long and painful rehab she'll have to go 
through.. Thanks again, Chuck

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[VFB] Re: test

[John C. Bennett]

Heard ya in Utah

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[VFB] RE: [flyfishingandflytyingforpanfish] We're home from my wife's surgery

[John C. Bennett]

I'm glad to hear that everything went well. Good luck on the recovery.

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Folks: I brought my wife home from the hospital late this afternoon. Surgery 
went great. Imagine them being able to replace a knee in just 56 minutes.  
Anyway, so far, so good. She is in a lot of pain, which is to be expected with 
a 13 inch incision down the front of her left knee..But other than that, she is 
walking with a walker, and is able to bear all the weight she can handle on 
that leg already.. Thanks to all for the thoughts and prayers. Please keep them 
coming because now begins the long and painful rehab she'll have to go 
through.. Thanks again, Chuck

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[VFB] Hook question

[John C. Bennett]

Has anyone tried to tie a size 32 fly? The smallest I have ever tied was a size 
24. I was trying to find a place that sales them. I know that mustad makes them 
but I can't find them anywhere.

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[VFB] Winter Streamer Swap 2008 Update

[John C. Bennett]

Please disregard this message if you are not participating in this swap.



Just as a friendly reminder, I have received 3 sets for the swap with one more 
on the way. I know the tying deadline isn't until December 1st, but I just 
thought I would give an update as to the status.





1. Mcnerney

2. Lilybennett - Received

3. Dshort

4. Wyatt

5. Jerry McKaughan  - Received

6. Thomas

7. Jared DuBach  - Received

8. jim hodson

9. Wes Wada

10. david masson  - on route

11. Rene.Zillmann

12. Peter Gramp

13. Joni

14. chocomoose chocomoose

15. fyshstykr

16. Myself - Done


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[VFB] Re: School color swap

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I thought that was part of the pattern. ;) It helps it stabilize on the water 
better.

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Are you kidding? The white calf tail tails on my dries were so huge they 
could've been mistaken for extra small streamers!




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I received a great package of flies in the mail over the weekend. They all came 
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[VFB] Re: School color swap, John B

[John C. Bennett]

Background on this fly. I tied the set at the hospital while my wife was in 
labor with our new baby. She had to be started so she was in labor throughout 
the night. With the drugs she was given for the pain, it gave me time to catch 
up on my tying.

Chuck, take a travel kit to the hospital with you. It helped me pass the time 
while my wife was sleeping.

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Excuse me John, But I like your Utah Utes Mayfly. In fact I tied a couple of
them to try on my "Secret Creek on the green sunfish. Will let you know how
it works.
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[VFB] Re: Numbers Question

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I would look on the website for a lot of that info.

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I am playing with a crazy Idea, and need to know something. Does anyone know
just how many members the VFB group has? About how many are active, IE. post
at least once a month?
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[VFB] School color swap

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[VFB] Re: QUOTE FOR THE DAY - MIDGES POEM

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What a fitting poem for the time. I am preparing to head to island park Idaho 
for a family vacation and I hope to use the midges that I am currently tying. 
If anyone has a suggestion on what to take, it would be greatly appreciated. My 
trip is the first week in November. You know, it is the time to bring out the 
midge box. I prefer to fish the winters anyway.

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Subject: [VFB] QUOTE FOR THE DAY - MIDGES POEM

MIDGES

I can't see'em, but I can hear'em
And I sure as hell can feel'em.
I feel'em when they get in my eyes.
I feel'em when they get in my ears.
I feel'em, the tiny fluttering flies,
Being washed away by my tears.
Yes, I feel'em, but these hands can't tie'em
Alas, my friends, I'll just have to buy'em.

Jimmy D.Moore
Woodway, Texas
© January 15, 2002









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[VFB] Re: QUOTE FOR THE DAY - MIDGES POEM

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Even thou I am still a youngin (27), I have trouble tying midges at times. I 
don't think it has to do with age. I have hyperglycemia, so that means that my 
hands shake almost constantly. When it gets down to the size 22 and smaller I 
have my troubles. When they say that you have to have a steady hand to do 
certain things, I've learned to work around what I have. Needless to say, I 
didn't become a doctor.

Loved the poem

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MIDGES

I can't see'em, but I can hear'em
And I sure as hell can feel'em.
I feel'em when they get in my eyes.
I feel'em when they get in my ears.
I feel'em, the tiny fluttering flies,
Being washed away by my tears.
Yes, I feel'em, but these hands can't tie'em
Alas, my friends, I'll just have to buy'em.

Jimmy D.Moore
Woodway, Texas
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