[VFB] Re: Catch magazine

[boosbooksandbargains]

Mike: I just got Hughes Net yesterday, and this was a GREAT way to try it 
out. I just clicked and the pages turned as fast as I could have turned them 
by hand on a real magazine.. Awesome pics, Chuck

- Original Message - 
From: "Michael Bliss" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 3:10 PM
Subject: [VFB] Catch magazine


>
> I ran across this pictorial magazine.  It is beautiful.
> http://www.catchmagazine.net/
>
>
>
> Try it out.
>
> Mike
>
> > 


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[VFB] My new 8wt bass outfit

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Folks: I bought a 9ft 8wt Outfit from Cabelas,(a Cabela's Cahill)  that was 
only $59.95 for the whole thing. Rod, reel, WF fly line, backing, and tapered 
leader.. I bought it cause I had no "bass rod" and it's all I could afford at 
the time..Man, am I ever glad I bought that thing.. I tied on my biggest Dave 
Whitlock spun deer hair "Fruit Cocktail" fly that I have ever tied, complete 
with about an 1 1/2" diameter body, 3-4 inch tails, rubber legs, metal eyes, 
and a mono weed guard.. It was freezing and the wind blowing at 20mph at least. 
I got out there in the yard, lined up with the wind at my back, and the first 9 
out of 10 casts went 60-65 ft, with an easy  splash down for that sized bug.. I 
kept at it till I was getting 80 foot casts,(10-15 ft farther than I have ever 
gotten with my 5wt St. Croix rod, AND IT HAS A $65 spool of line on it LOL..)  
consistently, using a single haul cast. And the reel does have a drag system, 
although it is a gear against gear system, which wears out quickly, but is nice 
while it lasts. The rod is all graphite, and says it's "medium action", but I 
would rate is as the FAST side of "medium action"..But, it also has aluminum 
reel seat,(vs the plastic ones usually found on these cheap rods) and double 
reel nuts to keep it extra tight. It has a cork "fighting butt" and the 9ft rod 
has TEN eyes, which I think helps to "shoot" the line even farther.. Anyway, if 
anybody wants a nice , cheap bass rod, I don't know how long that price will 
last, as i think it's normally $99.95, but still WELL worth $99.95 even. 
Anyway, just wanted to give this report in case anybody is looking for ran 
outfit like this..Since I bass fish only occasionally it will be great, but 
with cats and action like that, I may start bass fishing MUCH MORE LOL Chuck


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[VFB] Re: Charlie Bonner

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Bruce: That is a great story. Charlie's family will be in my thoughts and 
prayers as well, Chuck

- Original Message - 
From: "Bruce P. Whittle, DVM" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 8:16 AM
Subject: [VFB] Re: Charlie Bonner



I am so sorry to hear that.  Charlie was definitely one in a million
(billion?).  I still remember at the Sowbug about 4 years ago he asked if
Brandon was going to be going fishing.  Since we only had one vehicle we
were not going to be able to so Charlie asked if he could take Brandon to
Dry Run Creek.  Charlie had the patience of a saint and took the time with
Brandon to teach him fly fishing.  Brandon caught an approximately 5 lb.
rainbow there and will always remember that experience.  I think he also
took Brandon the next two years.  Charlie was one of his best buddies.  He
will be crushed to hear he passed away.  Charlie was definitely a credit to
the support as well as a credit to humanity.  His family is definitely in
our prayers.
Bruce Whittle

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From: "Jimmy D. Moore" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 11:26 PM
Subject: [VFB] Charlie Bonner



Just got the word that Charlie Bonner passed away.  No details on
funeral, memorials yet.
Please keep Charlie's family in your prayers.

JIMMY D

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[VFB] Re: Spring Has Sprung Fly Swap III is FULL!!!

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Jim: I'm gonna ATTEMPT to tie "Articulated Woolly Buggers". I guess if somebody 
lives in an area where two hooks are not allowed, they can just clip one hook 
off at the bend LOL,  Chuck

  - Original Message - 
  From: jim phillips 
  To: flyfishingandflytyingforpanf...@yahoogroups.com ; VFB ; Wild Bill 
  Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 6:23 PM
  Subject: [VFB] Spring Has Sprung Fly Swap III is FULL!!!


  We have our tyers. Please send me the bugger you will tie if you have not 
done so already.
  We have some great tyers involved and I anticipate that this will be an 
OUTSTANDING Swap.
  Jim

   
  1. Wayne Blake-Hedges - Beadhead Pautuxent Special sz10
  2. Joe Fusco, Sr - TBD
  3. Chuck Alexander - TBD
  4. Jerry Caruso - Fun Foam Bugger RE: The Disco Bugger
  5. Jim Hodson- TBD
  6. John Bennett -TBD
  7. Doublehaul - TBD
  8. Bill Sciotti - TBD
  9. Dave Masson
  10. Mark Romero
  11. Jack Morris
  12. Joyce - Vern's Fat Bugger
   
  Miester: Jim Phillips -  TBD

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[VFB] Re: Taking a Break - JIMMY D

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Jimmy: I'll do the JFTD for ya if you need me to, Chuck

- Original Message - 
From: "Jimmy D. Moore" 
To: "Virtual Fly Box" ; "Fly Fishing World" 
; "Hill Coountry Fly Fishers" 

Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 3:53 PM
Subject: [VFB] Taking a Break - JIMMY D



I'm taking a "breather" from the Quote For The Day and the Joke For The
Day Club.  I'm battling a severe case of Cedar Fever.  The Cedar pollen
count in Central Texas is the highest it's been in 15 years.  Haven't
felt like doing much of anything.  Hope to be back in Action by the
first of next week.

If anyone wants to "spell" me, just let me know.

JIMMY  D


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[VFB] Re: Spring Has Sprung Fly Swap III Update

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Jeff: NO.. Jim is #6. I'm #13. You are #3, and etc etc, Chuck LOL

  - Original Message - 
  From: Jeff Frye 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 6:44 PM
  Subject: [VFB] Re: Spring Has Sprung Fly Swap III Update


So, you are tyer #13? I'm confusing myself now.

--- On Tue, 1/27/09, jim phillips  wrote:

  From: jim phillips 
  Subject: [VFB] Re: Spring Has Sprung Fly Swap III Update
  To: "VFB" 
  Date: Tuesday, January 27, 2009, 6:14 PM


  Jeff
  I am tying. That is why I stated 13 flys IF you wanted one of yours 
back.
  If not, only 12 flys.
  Now you are getting me confused... darn you :) LOL ROFL CMP and SPO
  If I remember right, last year you informed me that the best way to 
  run a swap was for everyone to tie and submitt flys that equal the 
number 
  of tiers/tyers and since then I have been following your sage advice.
  DT

  May your GOD be your fishing partner.  




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  Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 15:44:58 -0800
  From: bighawk...@yahoo.com
  Subject: [VFB] Re: Spring Has Sprung Fly Swap III Update
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com

OK. I didn't realize you weren't tying

--- On Tue, 1/27/09, jim phillips  
wrote:

  From: jim phillips 
  Subject: [VFB] Re: Spring Has Sprung Fly Swap III Update
  To: "VFB" 
  Date: Tuesday, January 27, 2009, 5:40 PM


  Jeff
  Going for 12 tiers plus myself so if you submitted 12 flies; 
  you would not get one of yours back BUT if you sent a Baker's 
Dozen (13), 
  you would. 
  Jim
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  Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 15:27:32 -0800
  From: bighawk...@yahoo.com
  Subject: [VFB] Re: Spring Has Sprung Fly Swap III Update
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com

Does 12 include a bonus for the swapmeister? If not, 12 
would get me one of mine back anyway, wouldn't it?

--- On Tue, 1/27/09, jim phillips 
 wrote:

  From: jim phillips 
  Subject: [VFB] Spring Has Sprung Fly Swap III Update
  To: "VFB" 
  Date: Tuesday, January 27, 2009, 4:36 PM


  Tiers/Tyers needed, lets get er done!!!

  Well, spring is just a few months away and with all 
the talk of "Wooly Wisdom" and wooly buggers; 
  let's make this a Wooly Bugger Swap.
   
  Try and duplicate a bugger from the book or a
  variation of one.
   
  Sign ups open until 7 Feb
   
  Buggers due on or before 31 March 09
   
  Normal rules prevail: toe tags, self-addressed AND 
stamped envelopes, crush proof container 
   
  For our friend out of states (Canada/Europe/ GB 
etc...) I will pay postage if you send me 6 
  of your flies, 

  First 12 in with I'm in are IN 
   
  Tie 12 buggers (If you want one of yours returned, 
tie a Baker's Dozen (13)
   
  Once we have 12, we will go off list and I will be 
sending you PM's
   
  1. Wayne Blake-Hedges - Beadhead Pautuxent Special 
sz10
  2. Joe Fusco, Sr - TBD
  3. Chuck Alexander - TBD
  4. Jerry Caruso - Fun Foam Bugger RE: The Disco Bugger
  5. Jim Hodson- TBD
  6.
  7.
  8.
  9.
  10.
  11.
  12.
   
  Miester: Jim Phillips -  TBD



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[VFB] Re: True Stories

[boosbooksandbargains]

Jeff: Thanks a million.. I'll print this out for safe keeping, Chuck

- Original Message - 
From: "Jeff Frye" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 5:23 PM
Subject: [VFB] Re: True Stories


>
> Anytime, Chuck. I have unlimited long distance on both my cell and home 
> number. Cell is 785-218-1997, Home is 785-840-9005. Keeping your family in 
> my thoughts and prayers. -Jeff
>
>
> --- On Sun, 1/25/09, boosbooksandbarga...@earthlink.net 
>  wrote:
>
>> From: boosbooksandbarga...@earthlink.net 
>> 
>> Subject: [VFB] Re: True Stories
>> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
>> Date: Sunday, January 25, 2009, 4:10 PM
>> Jeff: Thanks a lot.. I will help get my wife well, and
>> I'll contact you
>> about this.. I really want to do it, and will at least try
>> as soon as I get
>> her well, Chuck
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Jeff Frye" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 10:04 AM
>> Subject: [VFB] Re: True Stories
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Chuck, if you want to start a club in your area,
>> contact me and I can help
>> > guide you. I started one 3 years ago and we now have
>> 125 members. I can
>> > shorten up that learning curve for you and give some
>> good insight on what
>> > works and what doesn't.
>> >
>> >
>> > --- On Sun, 1/25/09,
>> boosbooksandbarga...@earthlink.net
>> >  wrote:
>> >
>> >> From: boosbooksandbarga...@earthlink.net
>> >> 
>> >> Subject: [VFB] Re: True Stories
>> >> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
>> >> Date: Sunday, January 25, 2009, 8:41 AM
>> >> Tony: I wonder if around here, since there are
>> PLENTY of
>> >> places like Volunteer Fire Dept's and Civic
>> Centers that
>> >> will rent you rooms by the day, week, month etc
>> for things
>> >> like tying lessons, or whatever. So, I have been
>> wanting to
>> >> get up a local club. So, if I bought 4 more say
>> Thompson A
>> >> vises at about $20 a pop, and ran an ad in the
>> paper "6
>> >> week fly tying course", limit 6 people, first
>> come
>> >> first served. Then, the ppl would pay just enough
>> to cover
>> >> the costs of the building,materials, snacks, etc
>> etc.. But
>> >> then I'd ask them if they wanted to join a
>> >> "tying/fishing club, and we'd then have
>> fly fishing
>> >> lessons at the local City Park lake that I often
>> fish. It
>> >> might just "go over". Or, do the fishing
>> class
>> >> first, then do the tying class. Or even at the
>> same time and
>> >> do the fishing right before dark, then move to the
>> classroom
>> >> to tie, cause the huge civic center is right there
>> at the
>> >> lake..Chuck
>> >>
>> >>   - Original Message - 
>> >>   From: Anthony Spezio
>> >>   To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
>> >>   Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 8:15 AM
>> >>   Subject: [VFB] Re: True Stories
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> OK here is one.
>> >> I was doing beginner fly tying classes at
>> a Dept
>> >> Store in N.J.
>> >>  This was a 6 week course. I had a husband
>> and wife
>> >> team sign up along with 10 other students.
>> >> I started out with the basics pointing out
>> the
>> >> materials and tools and how they are used.
>> >> This gentleman just sat quiet. As we
>> progressed
>> >> through the weeks I noticed he had a real knack
>> for tying.
>> >> His flies were top line. He never asked for help
>> or had any
>> >> questions.
>> >> At the end of the six weeks I commented to
>> him
>> >> about his flies being so good. He said he had been
>> tying for
>> >> 40 years and took the class so his wife would take
>> it. He
>> >> said he had not been able to teach her but that I
>> did a good
>> >> job. In the classes he has attended, this was one
>> of the
>> >> best.
>> >> My face was red but I was also proud. They
>> joined
>> >> our tying group and she is a good fly tyer now.
>> >> That was 20 years ago
>> >> Arkansas Tony
>> >>
>> >> --- On Mon, 1/12/09, Wes Wada
>> >>  wrote:
>> >>
>> >>   From: Wes Wada 
>> >>   Subject: [VFB] True Stories
>> >>   To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
>> >>   Date: Monday, January 12, 2009, 9:09 PM
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Hello, VFB.I'd like to start a thread about
>> something
>> >> of interest to me, andhopefully, to some of
>> you.What stories
>> >> do you have, that happened, when you were at a fly
>> tying
>> >> event?You were either tying your flies, or
>> witnessing
>> >> another tyer'spresentation.  Or expanded, to
>> include the
>> >> presentations at thecasting pond?  Possibilities
>> suggested
>> >> might be educational,historical, colorful, or just
>> danged
>> >> funny.And they have to be true stories, which has
>> to be a
>> >> huge challenge,for fly fishers!-Anybody want
>> to start
>> >>  the ball rolling?  Just thought of this, and
>> Idon't
>> >> have anything in mind, or written, of my own.
>> Will do
>> >> one,though.Wes WadaBend, Oregon
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > >
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> > 


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[VFB] Re: Starting a fly fishing club

[boosbooksandbargains]

Jimmy: Good idea. We have a local Rotary Club, Kiwanis,The Jaycees, 
Masons,and several more that I can't recall right now, but I'm sure I can 
find them.. Chuck

- Original Message - 
From: "Jimmy D. Moore" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 11:30 AM
Subject: [VFB] Re:Starting a fly fishing club


>
> Chuck, if you feel proficient enough, you might consider doing a program
> at one or more of your Civic Clubs like Rotary, etc. I did this a few
> years back, giving a fly tying/fishing demonstration.  At the end of the
> meeting I had 7 Rotarians come up and ask if I would teach a fly tying
> class for them.  I did.  Upshot is that 5 of the seven are still tying
> flies and fly fishing.  How do I know this?  I'm in that Rotary Club.
> You could do a demo and ask any interested folks if they'd like to join
> a Fly Fishing club that you're forming.  Seems that lots of civic club
> members are fly fishers.
>
> JIMMY D
>
>
>
>
> > 


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[VFB] Re: True Stories

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I see. Heck, My local Hobby Lobby has as much stuff that you can tie flies with 
as most Fly Shops. Maybe they'd let me hold classes there LOL, Chuck

  - Original Message - 
  From: Anthony Spezio 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 10:58 AM
  Subject: [VFB] Re: True Stories


We had a chain Dept Store in South Jersey that had "Craft Month". 
Classes on all types of crafts were had. I did Beginning Fly Tying for three 
years.
Arkansas Tony

--- On Sun, 1/25/09, boosbooksandbarga...@earthlink.net 
 wrote:

  From: boosbooksandbarga...@earthlink.net 

  Subject: [VFB] Re: True Stories
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
  Date: Sunday, January 25, 2009, 8:35 AM


  Tony: That's a great story.. Although I have never heard of fly tying 
classes at a Dept store LOL, Chuck

- Original Message - 
From: Anthony Spezio 
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 8:15 AM
Subject: [VFB] Re: True Stories


  OK here is one.
  I was doing beginner fly tying classes at a Dept Store in N.J.
   This was a 6 week course. I had a husband and wife team sign 
up along with 10 other students.
  I started out with the basics pointing out the materials and 
tools and how they are used.
  This gentleman just sat quiet. As we progressed through the 
weeks I noticed he had a real knack for tying. His flies were top line. He 
never asked for help or had any questions.
  At the end of the six weeks I commented to him about his 
flies being so good. He said he had been tying for 40 years and took the class 
so his wife would take it. He said he had not been able to teach her but that I 
did a good job. In the classes he has attended, this was one of the best.
  My face was red but I was also proud. They joined our tying 
group and she is a good fly tyer now.
  That was 20 years ago
  Arkansas Tony

  --- On Mon, 1/12/09, Wes Wada  wrote:

From: Wes Wada 
Subject: [VFB] True Stories
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, January 12, 2009, 9:09 PM


Hello, VFB.I'd like to start a thread about something of interest to me, 
andhopefully, to some of you.What stories do you have, that happened, when you 
were at a fly tying event?You were either tying your flies, or witnessing 
another tyer'spresentation.  Or expanded, to include the presentations at 
thecasting pond?  Possibilities suggested might be educational,historical, 
colorful, or just danged funny.And they have to be true stories, which has to 
be a huge challenge,for fly fishers!-Anybody want to start the ball 
rolling?  Just thought of this, and Idon't have anything in mind, or written, 
of my own.  Will do one,though.Wes WadaBend, Oregon  






  


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[VFB] Re: True Stories

[boosbooksandbargains]

Tony: Great idea. You also gave me another idea. I'll also call all the local 
Service Clubs, ie VFW, AmVets,DAV, etc etc.. Chuck

  - Original Message - 
  From: Anthony Spezio 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 10:49 AM
  Subject: [VFB] Re: True Stories


We have several places here that gave us a room free. If you have a 
Senior Center they might do it free. You night get a feeler out before buying 
the material. I might be able to help you with materials.I have a few 
connections.
Let Jeff help you with this too especially on starting a club.
When I first talked to our club about starting a show, they were not 
for it, now see what the Sowbug has turned into. Just do it.
Arkansas Tony

--- On Sun, 1/25/09, boosbooksandbarga...@earthlink.net 
 wrote:

  From: boosbooksandbarga...@earthlink.net 

  Subject: [VFB] Re: True Stories
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
  Date: Sunday, January 25, 2009, 8:41 AM


  Tony: I wonder if around here, since there are PLENTY of places like 
Volunteer Fire Dept's and Civic Centers that will rent you rooms by the day, 
week, month etc for things like tying lessons, or whatever. So, I have been 
wanting to get up a local club. So, if I bought 4 more say Thompson A vises at 
about $20 a pop, and ran an ad in the paper "6 week fly tying course", limit 6 
people, first come first served. Then, the ppl would pay just enough to cover 
the costs of the building,materials, snacks, etc etc.. But then I'd ask them if 
they wanted to join a "tying/fishing club, and we'd then have fly fishing 
lessons at the local City Park lake that I often fish. It might just "go over". 
Or, do the fishing class first, then do the tying class. Or even at the same 
time and do the fishing right before dark, then move to the classroom to tie, 
cause the huge civic center is right there at the lake..Chuck

- Original Message - 
From: Anthony Spezio 
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 8:15 AM
Subject: [VFB] Re: True Stories


  OK here is one.
  I was doing beginner fly tying classes at a Dept Store in N.J.
   This was a 6 week course. I had a husband and wife team sign 
up along with 10 other students.
  I started out with the basics pointing out the materials and 
tools and how they are used.
  This gentleman just sat quiet. As we progressed through the 
weeks I noticed he had a real knack for tying. His flies were top line. He 
never asked for help or had any questions.
  At the end of the six weeks I commented to him about his 
flies being so good. He said he had been tying for 40 years and took the class 
so his wife would take it. He said he had not been able to teach her but that I 
did a good job. In the classes he has attended, this was one of the best.
  My face was red but I was also proud. They joined our tying 
group and she is a good fly tyer now.
  That was 20 years ago
  Arkansas Tony

  --- On Mon, 1/12/09, Wes Wada  wrote:

From: Wes Wada 
Subject: [VFB] True Stories
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, January 12, 2009, 9:09 PM


Hello, VFB.I'd like to start a thread about something of interest to me, 
andhopefully, to some of you.What stories do you have, that happened, when you 
were at a fly tying event?You were either tying your flies, or witnessing 
another tyer'spresentation.  Or expanded, to include the presentations at 
thecasting pond?  Possibilities suggested might be educational,historical, 
colorful, or just danged funny.And they have to be true stories, which has to 
be a huge challenge,for fly fishers!-Anybody want to start the ball 
rolling?  Just thought of this, and Idon't have anything in mind, or written, 
of my own.  Will do one,though.Wes WadaBend, Oregon  






  


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[VFB] Re: True Stories

[boosbooksandbargains]

Jeff: Thanks a lot.. I will help get my wife well, and I'll contact you 
about this.. I really want to do it, and will at least try as soon as I get 
her well, Chuck

- Original Message - 
From: "Jeff Frye" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 10:04 AM
Subject: [VFB] Re: True Stories


>
> Chuck, if you want to start a club in your area, contact me and I can help 
> guide you. I started one 3 years ago and we now have 125 members. I can 
> shorten up that learning curve for you and give some good insight on what 
> works and what doesn't.
>
>
> --- On Sun, 1/25/09, boosbooksandbarga...@earthlink.net 
>  wrote:
>
>> From: boosbooksandbarga...@earthlink.net 
>> 
>> Subject: [VFB] Re: True Stories
>> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
>> Date: Sunday, January 25, 2009, 8:41 AM
>> Tony: I wonder if around here, since there are PLENTY of
>> places like Volunteer Fire Dept's and Civic Centers that
>> will rent you rooms by the day, week, month etc for things
>> like tying lessons, or whatever. So, I have been wanting to
>> get up a local club. So, if I bought 4 more say Thompson A
>> vises at about $20 a pop, and ran an ad in the paper "6
>> week fly tying course", limit 6 people, first come
>> first served. Then, the ppl would pay just enough to cover
>> the costs of the building,materials, snacks, etc etc.. But
>> then I'd ask them if they wanted to join a
>> "tying/fishing club, and we'd then have fly fishing
>> lessons at the local City Park lake that I often fish. It
>> might just "go over". Or, do the fishing class
>> first, then do the tying class. Or even at the same time and
>> do the fishing right before dark, then move to the classroom
>> to tie, cause the huge civic center is right there at the
>> lake..Chuck
>>
>>   - Original Message - 
>>   From: Anthony Spezio
>>   To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
>>   Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 8:15 AM
>>   Subject: [VFB] Re: True Stories
>>
>>
>> OK here is one.
>> I was doing beginner fly tying classes at a Dept
>> Store in N.J.
>>  This was a 6 week course. I had a husband and wife
>> team sign up along with 10 other students.
>> I started out with the basics pointing out the
>> materials and tools and how they are used.
>> This gentleman just sat quiet. As we progressed
>> through the weeks I noticed he had a real knack for tying.
>> His flies were top line. He never asked for help or had any
>> questions.
>> At the end of the six weeks I commented to him
>> about his flies being so good. He said he had been tying for
>> 40 years and took the class so his wife would take it. He
>> said he had not been able to teach her but that I did a good
>> job. In the classes he has attended, this was one of the
>> best.
>> My face was red but I was also proud. They joined
>> our tying group and she is a good fly tyer now.
>> That was 20 years ago
>> Arkansas Tony
>>
>> --- On Mon, 1/12/09, Wes Wada
>>  wrote:
>>
>>   From: Wes Wada 
>>   Subject: [VFB] True Stories
>>   To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
>>   Date: Monday, January 12, 2009, 9:09 PM
>>
>>
>> Hello, VFB.I'd like to start a thread about something
>> of interest to me, andhopefully, to some of you.What stories
>> do you have, that happened, when you were at a fly tying
>> event?You were either tying your flies, or witnessing
>> another tyer'spresentation.  Or expanded, to include the
>> presentations at thecasting pond?  Possibilities suggested
>> might be educational,historical, colorful, or just danged
>> funny.And they have to be true stories, which has to be a
>> huge challenge,for fly fishers!-Anybody want to start
>>  the ball rolling?  Just thought of this, and Idon't
>> have anything in mind, or written, of my own.  Will do
>> one,though.Wes WadaBend, Oregon
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> > 


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[VFB] Re: True Stories

[boosbooksandbargains]

Joe: That's true I guess.. Maybe I could make it a "Package deal".. But, I was 
thinking that if a person wanted to learn to tie, they'd also want to learn to 
fish,. But, they may already know how to fly FISH, but just don't know how to 
tie... Decisions, decisions LOL. I'll probably just run an ad in the local 
Buy/Sell paper, which a LOT of ppl read around here, advertising for either/or 
and just see where any (if any) interest lies and go from there,  Chuck

  - Original Message - 
  From: Joseph Fusco, Sr. 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 9:47 AM
  Subject: [VFB] Re: True Stories


  Chuck -

  I think it's a chicken and the egg question.  Either might work.  The only 
way to know is to pick one approach and give it a try.


  -- 
  Joe Fusco, Sr.
  Member of The Missouri Trout Fishermen's Association, The International 
Brotherhood of the Flymph and The Virtual Fly Box

  REMEMBER CANCER IS A WORD NOT A SENTENCE

  Reply to: jfusc...@gmail.com


   
  On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 8:41 AM,  wrote:

Tony: I wonder if around here, since there are PLENTY of places like 
Volunteer Fire Dept's and Civic Centers that will rent you rooms by the day, 
week, month etc for things like tying lessons, or whatever. So, I have been 
wanting to get up a local club. So, if I bought 4 more say Thompson A vises at 
about $20 a pop, and ran an ad in the paper "6 week fly tying course", limit 6 
people, first come first served. Then, the ppl would pay just enough to cover 
the costs of the building,materials, snacks, etc etc.. But then I'd ask them if 
they wanted to join a "tying/fishing club, and we'd then have fly fishing 
lessons at the local City Park lake that I often fish. It might just "go over". 
Or, do the fishing class first, then do the tying class. Or even at the same 
time and do the fishing right before dark, then move to the classroom to tie, 
cause the huge civic center is right there at the lake..Chuck

  - Original Message - 
  From: Anthony Spezio 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 8:15 AM
  Subject: [VFB] Re: True Stories


OK here is one.
I was doing beginner fly tying classes at a Dept Store in N.J.
 This was a 6 week course. I had a husband and wife team sign up 
along with 10 other students.
I started out with the basics pointing out the materials and tools 
and how they are used.
This gentleman just sat quiet. As we progressed through the weeks I 
noticed he had a real knack for tying. His flies were top line. He never asked 
for help or had any questions.
At the end of the six weeks I commented to him about his flies 
being so good. He said he had been tying for 40 years and took the class so his 
wife would take it. He said he had not been able to teach her but that I did a 
good job. In the classes he has attended, this was one of the best.
My face was red but I was also proud. They joined our tying group 
and she is a good fly tyer now.
That was 20 years ago
Arkansas Tony

--- On Mon, 1/12/09, Wes Wada  wrote:

  From: Wes Wada 
  Subject: [VFB] True Stories
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
  Date: Monday, January 12, 2009, 9:09 PM


Hello, VFB.I'd like to start a thread about something of interest to me, and
hopefully, to some of you.What stories do you have, that happened, when you 
were at a fly tying event?You were either tying your flies, or witnessing 
another tyer'spresentation.  Or expanded, to include the presentations at the
casting pond?  Possibilities suggested might be educational,historical, 
colorful, or just danged funny.And they have to be true stories, which has to 
be a huge challenge,for fly fishers!-
Anybody want to start
 the ball rolling?  Just thought of this, and Idon't have anything in mind, or 
written, of my own.  Will do one,though.Wes WadaBend, Oregon


 

 










  


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[VFB] Re: True Stories

[boosbooksandbargains]

Tony: I wonder if around here, since there are PLENTY of places like Volunteer 
Fire Dept's and Civic Centers that will rent you rooms by the day, week, month 
etc for things like tying lessons, or whatever. So, I have been wanting to get 
up a local club. So, if I bought 4 more say Thompson A vises at about $20 a 
pop, and ran an ad in the paper "6 week fly tying course", limit 6 people, 
first come first served. Then, the ppl would pay just enough to cover the costs 
of the building,materials, snacks, etc etc.. But then I'd ask them if they 
wanted to join a "tying/fishing club, and we'd then have fly fishing lessons at 
the local City Park lake that I often fish. It might just "go over". Or, do the 
fishing class first, then do the tying class. Or even at the same time and do 
the fishing right before dark, then move to the classroom to tie, cause the 
huge civic center is right there at the lake..Chuck

  - Original Message - 
  From: Anthony Spezio 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 8:15 AM
  Subject: [VFB] Re: True Stories


OK here is one.
I was doing beginner fly tying classes at a Dept Store in N.J.
 This was a 6 week course. I had a husband and wife team sign up along 
with 10 other students.
I started out with the basics pointing out the materials and tools and 
how they are used.
This gentleman just sat quiet. As we progressed through the weeks I 
noticed he had a real knack for tying. His flies were top line. He never asked 
for help or had any questions.
At the end of the six weeks I commented to him about his flies being so 
good. He said he had been tying for 40 years and took the class so his wife 
would take it. He said he had not been able to teach her but that I did a good 
job. In the classes he has attended, this was one of the best.
My face was red but I was also proud. They joined our tying group and 
she is a good fly tyer now.
That was 20 years ago
Arkansas Tony

--- On Mon, 1/12/09, Wes Wada  wrote:

  From: Wes Wada 
  Subject: [VFB] True Stories
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
  Date: Monday, January 12, 2009, 9:09 PM


Hello, VFB.I'd like to start a thread about something of interest to me, 
andhopefully, to some of you.What stories do you have, that happened, when you 
were at a fly tying event?You were either tying your flies, or witnessing 
another tyer'spresentation.  Or expanded, to include the presentations at 
thecasting pond?  Possibilities suggested might be educational,historical, 
colorful, or just danged funny.And they have to be true stories, which has to 
be a huge challenge,for fly fishers!-Anybody want to start
 the ball rolling?  Just thought of this, and Idon't have anything in mind, or 
written, of my own.  Will do one,though.Wes WadaBend, Oregon


 

 

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[VFB] Re: True Stories

[boosbooksandbargains]

Tony: That's a great story.. Although I have never heard of fly tying classes 
at a Dept store LOL, Chuck

  - Original Message - 
  From: Anthony Spezio 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 8:15 AM
  Subject: [VFB] Re: True Stories


OK here is one.
I was doing beginner fly tying classes at a Dept Store in N.J.
 This was a 6 week course. I had a husband and wife team sign up along 
with 10 other students.
I started out with the basics pointing out the materials and tools and 
how they are used.
This gentleman just sat quiet. As we progressed through the weeks I 
noticed he had a real knack for tying. His flies were top line. He never asked 
for help or had any questions.
At the end of the six weeks I commented to him about his flies being so 
good. He said he had been tying for 40 years and took the class so his wife 
would take it. He said he had not been able to teach her but that I did a good 
job. In the classes he has attended, this was one of the best.
My face was red but I was also proud. They joined our tying group and 
she is a good fly tyer now.
That was 20 years ago
Arkansas Tony

--- On Mon, 1/12/09, Wes Wada  wrote:

  From: Wes Wada 
  Subject: [VFB] True Stories
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
  Date: Monday, January 12, 2009, 9:09 PM


Hello, VFB.I'd like to start a thread about something of interest to me, 
andhopefully, to some of you.What stories do you have, that happened, when you 
were at a fly tying event?You were either tying your flies, or witnessing 
another tyer'spresentation.  Or expanded, to include the presentations at 
thecasting pond?  Possibilities suggested might be educational,historical, 
colorful, or just danged funny.And they have to be true stories, which has to 
be a huge challenge,for fly fishers!-Anybody want to start
 the ball rolling?  Just thought of this, and Idon't have anything in mind, or 
written, of my own.  Will do one,though.Wes WadaBend, Oregon


 

 

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[VFB] Re: And Chuck,

[boosbooksandbargains]

You're tellin me LOL.. Right now, I can barely hold my eyes open. I've been 
up tending to Billie all night long. All week, I've had to check my watch 
just to remember what day it is, Chuck

- Original Message - 
From: "Allan Fish" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 7:06 AM
Subject: [VFB] And Chuck,


>
>>I think I'm gonna try to order some TMC 518's ,
>
> I'll send you some tomorrow.  But PLEASE remind me - I'm getting 
> forgetful.
>
> Too many fires around my iron.  Or something.
>
> Al
> -- 
> Allan Fish
> Greenwood, IN
> afi...@sbcglobal.net
>
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[VFB] Re: Old farther swap

[boosbooksandbargains]

MeddelandeDang: The difference there appears to be HUGE.. But I doubt I could 
tie either one LOL.. I tied a 28 once, with just a simple tail of about 3 hairs 
from my dog, a red thread body, and silver tinsel collar. Even then my eyeballs 
were still spinning after three days. I carry it in a tiny zip loc in my wallet 
and it amazes ppl around here though..A 32 would really blow their minds LOL.. 
You guys have me intrigued. I think I'm gonna try to order some TMC 518's , 
Chuck

  - Original Message - 
  From: Niclas Runarsson 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 5:05 AM
  Subject: [VFB] Re: Old farther swap


  See the difference in size on http://www.swedneckflyfishing.com/32s.htm

  /Nick
-Ursprungligt meddelande-
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Ämne: [VFB] Re: Old farther swap


Jerry: Thanks. I thought it was the other way around about which one was no 
longer in production... Do you go to Sowbug??? Do ppl make comments like that 
there?? I'm wondering as I'm supposed to tie there this year LOL.. Course, my 
flies are gonna be size 12 and 14, which I consider a small fly, even for 
trout.. Course they can kiss my A$$ if they don't like what I'm tying ROFL.. 
Thanks again, Chuck

  - Original Message - 
  From: jerryp...@comcast.net 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 6:46 PM
  Subject: [VFB] Re: Old farther swap


  Chuck:

It's the Mustad's that aren't in production anymore.  As far as the 
Tiemco goes, I'm pretty sure they still make them.  It's the other way around 
the Mustad is smaller than the Tiemco.  To give you an idea of what you're 
getting.  If I tie in public, since I'm usually tying warm water or salt water 
flies, and sometimes the trout only folks will make a comment about us not 
really  being fly tyers since we only tie large flies, I carry a fly tied on 
the the TMC hook in a small plastic case with a magnifier in the lid so the fly 
can be seen otherwise it looks like a speck of dust.  I'm not sure I posted 
this before but here is a link to the Smallest Fly Project.  I've got a fly in 
it and so does Tony.  There a nice picture the Mustad size 32 at the top.



  http://www.danica.com/flytier/sfp_previewx/sfp_preview.htm

  Jerry Caruso
  "All things considered, I'd rather be in Philadelphia."

  - boosbooksandbarga...@earthlink.net wrote: 
  > John: Can I ask where you found the hooks??? Aren't they no longer in 
  > production??? Thanks, Chuck

  


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[VFB] Re: Pautexant special fly pattern

[boosbooksandbargains]

Wes: Man, you said it. It makes me wonder how we ever did things before the 
internet. I can remember (not fly fishing stuff cause I didn't tie back 
then) to order something for example. You had to get a catalog (4-6 WEEKS) 
you had to mail in a check or Money Order, then wait for shipping (another 
6-8 WEEKS).. By the time you got something you didn't need it anymore..With 
the net, you order something via credit card or pay pal, you get the big 
brown truck at your door, in three-four  DAYS. The internet is GREAT, Chuck

- Original Message - 
From: "Wes Wada" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 7:53 PM
Subject: [VFB] Re: Pautexant special fly pattern


>
> Here's the fly you were looking for, Joyce.  Ah, the miracle of INTERNET 
> SEARCH.
>
> http://www.dsflies.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=214
>
>
> Wes Wada
> Bend, Oregon
>
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[VFB] Re: Old farther swap

[boosbooksandbargains]

Jerry: Thanks. I thought it was the other way around about which one was no 
longer in production... Do you go to Sowbug??? Do ppl make comments like that 
there?? I'm wondering as I'm supposed to tie there this year LOL.. Course, my 
flies are gonna be size 12 and 14, which I consider a small fly, even for 
trout.. Course they can kiss my A$$ if they don't like what I'm tying ROFL.. 
Thanks again, Chuck

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  Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 6:46 PM
  Subject: [VFB] Re: Old farther swap


  Chuck:

It's the Mustad's that aren't in production anymore.  As far as the Tiemco 
goes, I'm pretty sure they still make them.  It's the other way around the 
Mustad is smaller than the Tiemco.  To give you an idea of what you're getting. 
 If I tie in public, since I'm usually tying warm water or salt water flies, 
and sometimes the trout only folks will make a comment about us not really  
being fly tyers since we only tie large flies, I carry a fly tied on the the 
TMC hook in a small plastic case with a magnifier in the lid so the fly can be 
seen otherwise it looks like a speck of dust.  I'm not sure I posted this 
before but here is a link to the Smallest Fly Project.  I've got a fly in it 
and so does Tony.  There a nice picture the Mustad size 32 at the top.



  http://www.danica.com/flytier/sfp_previewx/sfp_preview.htm

  Jerry Caruso
  "All things considered, I'd rather be in Philadelphia."

  - boosbooksandbarga...@earthlink.net wrote: 
  > John: Can I ask where you found the hooks??? Aren't they no longer in 
  > production??? Thanks, Chuck


  


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[VFB] Re: test

[boosbooksandbargains]

She was Forrest Gump's girlfriend ROFL, Chuckles

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  From: Jimmy D. Moore 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 3:16 PM
  Subject: [VFB] Re: test


  Jinny!  Who the heck is JINNY?   ;-) :-P :-D :-) 

  jim phillips wrote:

No response wanted' just checking to see why nothing from vfb is coming 
thru but Jinny's joke and quote.
I have sent numerous messages but not show up as they used to in my mail
Jim
May your GOD be your fishing partner.  





 



  


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[VFB] Re: Old farther swap

[boosbooksandbargains]

John: You should be in a "Young Fart" swap, cause an "Old Fart" can't see 
well enough to tie size 32's LOL... I can't wait to see them, Chuck

- Original Message - 
From: "John C. Bennett" 
To: "vfb-mail" 
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 4:46 PM
Subject: [VFB] Old farther swap



It took me a while to tie them all but 25 size 32 Royal Wolffs are on their 
way to your place of residence. My eyes still hurt from trying to see the 
little buggers.

I hope that everyone enjoys them and thanks again for hosting the swap.

John



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[VFB] Re: Old farther swap

[boosbooksandbargains]

John: Can I ask where you found the hooks??? Aren't they no longer in 
production??? Thanks, Chuck

- Original Message - 
From: "John C. Bennett" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 5:01 PM
Subject: [VFB] Re: Old farther swap



Tiemco 32

-Original Message-
From: Jimmy D. Moore 
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 3:58 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Subject: [VFB] Re: Old farther swap


I'm looking forward to examing your size 32 Royal Wulfs.  Question: What
brand of  size 32 hook did you use to tie your Wulfs?  Tiemco? Mustad?
 A 32 Mustad is much larger than a Tiemco 32.  Also, does your 32's have
a hook eye or a spade?  There is a big difference between sizes among
different manufacturers.

JIMMY D

John C. Bennett wrote:

>It took me a while to tie them all but 25 size 32 Royal Wolffs are on their 
>way to your place of residence. My eyes still hurt from trying to see the 
>little buggers.
>
>I hope that everyone enjoys them and thanks again for hosting the swap.
>
>John
>
>>
>
>
>

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[VFB] Re: Cold water dye?

[boosbooksandbargains]

Joyce: Thanks for that info.. I have a few things I want to dye.. Can't 
wait.. I recently dyed a tan colored saddle black with RIT dye. it came out 
great, but my fingers were black for rover a week LOL, Chuck

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From: "Joyce" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 6:32 AM
Subject: [VFB] Re: Cold water dye?


>
> I find that the very best thing to do when dyeing with Kool Ade is to 
> first
> wash the article in good Dawn ( or similar) dishwashing soap, rinse it 
> very
> well, and then proceed with the Kool Ade dying. You'll want to use a towel
> to blot some of the water out of your washed feathers so that it doesn't
> dilute the dye so much, but do have the feathers wet when you begin. Yes,
> you can add vinegar. I've done the dying both with and without vinegar, 
> and
> found that the vinegar really doesn't make much difference in the end
> product. The Kool Ade is pretty acidic by itself. When the feather is a 
> bit
> darker than you want it, take it out. This is because by the time you 
> rinse
> the feathers well and wash them thoroughly and they will look 
> lighter..also
> they look lighter when they are dry. At the end of this, I do a quick 
> rinse
> with either hair conditioner or a bit of clothes conditioner which gets 
> them
> softer and easier to handle again and also takes out and seems to set the
> remaining dye. Joyce
>
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[VFB] Re: Cold water dye?

[boosbooksandbargains]

Gary: i see. Thanks a lot, Chuck

- Original Message - 
From: "Joan and Gary Smith" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 11:33 PM
Subject: [VFB] Re: Cold water dye?


>
> Just google dyeing with kool aid nad you will find tons of info on how to 
> do
> it
> Gary S.
> - Original Message - 
> From: 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 12:29 AM
> Subject: [VFB] Re: Cold water dye?
>
>
>>
>> Gary,Joyce: Can you add vinegar to Kool Aid like I do when I use RIT dye
>> to
>> assist in the removal/dissolving   of oils so the feathers will dye
>> better??
>> Thanks, Chuck
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Joan and Gary Smith" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 9:38 PM
>> Subject: [VFB] Re: Cold water dye?
>>
>>
>>>
>>> kool aid works if you do not want to use dyes that do not require heat.
>>> main thing is what ever you  wish to dye must be squeeky clean.
>>> Gary S
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Wes Wada" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 10:06 PM
>>> Subject: [VFB] Cold water dye?
>>>
>>>

 Hi VFB,

 I am in need of some information on dyeing.  The dye must be a good
 cold water dye, easy to use, non-toxic, persistent color.  Earth tones
 would be great colors.

 Can anyone please suggest what dye this describes?

 Reply offline to wada@gmail.com  or just post to the list.  Others
 may be interested.

 Many thanks for any help.


 Wes Wada
 Bend, Oregon

 >

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[VFB] Re: Cold water dye?

[boosbooksandbargains]

Gary,Joyce: Can you add vinegar to Kool Aid like I do when I use RIT dye to 
assist in the removal/dissolving   of oils so the feathers will dye better?? 
Thanks, Chuck

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From: "Joan and Gary Smith" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 9:38 PM
Subject: [VFB] Re: Cold water dye?


>
> kool aid works if you do not want to use dyes that do not require heat.
> main thing is what ever you  wish to dye must be squeeky clean.
> Gary S
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Wes Wada" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 10:06 PM
> Subject: [VFB] Cold water dye?
>
>
>>
>> Hi VFB,
>>
>> I am in need of some information on dyeing.  The dye must be a good
>> cold water dye, easy to use, non-toxic, persistent color.  Earth tones
>> would be great colors.
>>
>> Can anyone please suggest what dye this describes?
>>
>> Reply offline to wada@gmail.com  or just post to the list.  Others
>> may be interested.
>>
>> Many thanks for any help.
>>
>>
>> Wes Wada
>> Bend, Oregon
>>
>> >
>>
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[VFB] Where I have Been

[boosbooksandbargains]

Folks: Some were asking where I have been. My wife had been having abdominal 
pains, nausea and throwing up really bad. for about a week, and she had gone to 
her doc who thought that is was a stomach virus that has been going around.. 
Anyway, it got so bad, Saturday night that I took her to the ER and she has 
been in the hospital ever since. There were two gall stones in the duct that 
leads to the liver. So, the first doc, a gastroenterologist, on Monday put a 
scope down her throat and through her stomach, then into that duct. There was 
one "huge" (in his words) one, and one small one. He got the small one out .but 
not the smaller one. So, he dilated the duct in hopes it would go back into the 
gall bladder. to be removed. So, yesterday, the surgeon removed her gall 
bladder. It had Dozens and Dozens of stones in it.It was down laproscopically 
(sp) and went off without a hitch. But they still don't know if they got that 
one last one that was in the duct, and she'll go back Monday as an out patient, 
and get that one removed it it's still there. My back finally gave out on the 
HORRIBLE chair/cot they had for me to sleep on, so my Daughters is staying with 
her, and I JUST came home to be with the boys.. So, she should be home 
tomorrow, so please keep her in your thoughts and prayers..

And I Have Miles To Go before I Sleep.
And Miles To Go Before I Sleep...
...By Robert Frost

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[VFB] Re: new swap

[boosbooksandbargains]

Iain: I do believe I could tie one fly in 11 months LOL.. Count Me in if you 
will. Thanks, Chuckie Claus

  - Original Message - 
  From: iain short 
  To: VFB-new ; Chris Broomell ; deb duran 
  Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 11:55 PM
  Subject: [VFB] new swap


  Hi Guys
  Any one interested in a new swap ?

  Some of you saw photos of the Christmas tree fly I tied for fun.
  For next Christmas why not all of us tie One fly each and put up the photo 
with details attached

  RULES.
  You only tie one fly.
  It must be Christmas based.
  You send a digital picture to me. (you keep the fly, no postage required)
  I send copies of your photo's to all other entrants
  You have till November 2009 to tie your fly
  I put the pictures on my web photo site in December 2009 (as everyone else 
can who wants to)

  iain


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[VFB] To Tony???

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Tony: How are you feeling??? Hope you get a little better each day. I know you 
don't like a lot of your illnesses publicized, but you have ppl on here who 
love and respect you and they want to know about you, so PLEASE, keep us up on 
what is going on. You are like part of our family... Chuck
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[VFB] Re: HAPPY NEW YEAR-from JIMMY D

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And the caddy would carry the rods.. "Caddy, I'd like an 8ft 5wt with a Sinking 
Tip line please" ROFL, Chuck

  - Original Message - 
  From: DonO 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 11:00 AM
  Subject: [VFB] Re: HAPPY NEW YEAR-from JIMMY D


  I'm for re-establishing all golf courses as fishing courses.  Keep score, 
just like golf- number of casts in each pond to catch a fish.  Caddy carries 
the rods, helps pick out the fly. 
  Dr. D 
- Original Message - 
From: jim phillips 
To: VFB 
Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 5:17 PM
Subject: [VFB] Re: HAPPY NEW YEAR-from JIMMY D


I agrre with everything Jimmy stated but the "golf" part. They aught to use 
all golf courses for free parks and make the water hazards deep enough for 
planting fish.
In my other life (before retirement, I had 3 courses in my realm of 
responsibility. I always sent other staff to inspect the operations as I always 
felt that the courses did not pay their way even with outragous membership fees 
as well as green fees. I would rather bowl. But to each their own and I know 
some of ya just love to chase that little white ball around an area that could 
be put to better use.
 
I think my new computer is working so the ole deserttrout is back to haunt 
you.
Jim

May your GOD be your fishing partner.  




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> From: ray...@earthlink.net
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com; flyfishingwo...@yahoogroups.com; 
hillcountryflyfish...@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [VFB] HAPPY NEW YEAR-from JIMMY D
> 
> 
> May 2009 bring good things to you - good fishing, hunting, golf, health 
> and all things that make you happy. Oh yeah, I forgot - A wife who 
> understands the lure of the stream to us fly fishing nuts, and also the 
> mess in our tying room.
> 
> JIMMY D
> 
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> North Zone Fishing Editor - Texas Fish & Game Mag, 
> Author - Moon Holler Misfits Fishing & Hunting Club, 
> Humorist, Past VP Guadalupe River Trout Unlimited, 
> Member TOWA, Retired Scout Exec. BSA. 
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[VFB] Re: Hello from Tom Davenport

[boosbooksandbargains]

Tom: That's great to hear. I'll continue to keep you and your family in my 
thoughts and prayers, Chuck

  - Original Message - 
  From: Tom Davenport 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 6:53 PM
  Subject: [VFB] Hello from Tom Davenport


  Howdy, Boys!  I'm still in the hospital, but have managed to get online, and 
better yet am actually able to type and use the computer a little bit.  My 
"overnight" stay is now three weeks, with no release date yet scheduled. For 
those who didn't know, i had my prostate removed on the 11th,  but unexpected 
kidney problems arose, and it was nip and tuck for a couple weeks, with 
complications typical of renal failure...  heart problems (got up to 188b/s), 
messed up electrolytes, fluid retention (about 50 pounds of retained fluids at 
the peak), dialysis.  For my part I was totally wiped out and just hanging on.


  Today things are dramatically improved, I am recovering strength, some of my 
appetite has returned (no more diet restrictions),  blood tests are normal and 
my energy is slowly returning.  I won't be doing a lot online yet, but I took 
this chance to let you know things are looking up.  The only reason I am still 
hear is an abdominal urine leak that they are trying to nudge closed without 
resorting to more surgery.


  My kids created a blog which contains more detail, if any of you are 
interested:


   tomdavenport.blogspot.com


  Love to all, thanks for your prayers and well wishes.


  Tom Davenport


  Home Page: http://homepage.mac.com/tsmd
  Webshots Albums:  http://community.webshots.com/user/tsmdav





  


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[VFB] Re: Sowbug 2009

[boosbooksandbargains]

My wife and I are gonna try our best to be there, Chuck

  - Original Message - 
  From: Dail Graham 
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  Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 9:14 PM
  Subject: [VFB] Re: Sowbug 2009


  I will be there at Sowbug.   Dail Graham in MO
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Subject: [VFB] Sowbug 2009


Does anyone have plans yet to attend Sowbug 2009?

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[VFB] Re: Off-topic, but a moral

[boosbooksandbargains]

Hey Jim In your case, sounds like the fall may have been a blessing in 
disguise cause if you hadn't fell, they wouldn't have known that your blood 
sugar was messed up. So, the fall would be much better than going into a low 
blood sugar diabetic coma and dying in your sleep or something like that.. Chuck

  - Original Message - 
  From: jim phillips 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 1:27 PM
  Subject: [VFB] Re: Off-topic, but a moral


  Allan
  Happy to hear you are OK. Had I not fell on the rocks and hit my head, I most 
likely would have set down and waited for the dizzyness and fuzziness to go 
away but my bride (weighs 105 lbs but is stronger than I am plus a black belt 
in tae Kwon Do) carried me up the rocks and bank (actually pulled me up with 
some help of a good sam. and got me patched up and in the car. We first went to 
Lassen Hosp in Susanville and they medivaced me to the VA medical Center in 
Reno. I have been poked, probed, violated in all kinds of sadistic manners and 
just to learn i have been taking too much of my diabetis meds. They cut me to 5 
mg from 20 mgs. Guess losing 100 lbs in the past five years has been 
benificial. I had not been feeling real good for a couple weeks so the fall was 
building for awhile.\
   
  I agree that if you don't feel right get your ass to the docs and get checked 
out.
   
  Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all my Fly Tying, tall tale telling, 
fish catching friends.
   
  I hope to get my NEW PC up and running soon.

  May your GOD be your fishing partner.  




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  > Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 11:08:42 -0500
  > To: flyf...@lsv.uky.edu; vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
  > From: afi...@sbcglobal.net
  > Subject: [VFB] Off-topic, but a moral
  > 
  > 
  > Condensed version. I had a little heaviness in my chest Sunday 
  > morning. It got worse. Got hauled off to the heart hospital. I had 
  > a clog. Heart Cath. got it repaired and I got back home yesterday. 
  > No heart attack - caught it in time.
  > 
  > Moral to the story: If you feel ANYTHING a little squirrely going on 
  > in your chest and think there MIGHT be something going on, get into 
  > the E.R. immediately. Do NOT wait till you have a heart attack and 
  > get heart damage.
  > 
  > Far better to find that it was a false alarm than to find that oops - 
  > I shoulda come in earlier.
  > 
  > Merry Christmas, Happy Channukah, and wonderful holidays to all
  > 
  > Allan
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[VFB] Re: Tom Davenport in Hospital

[boosbooksandbargains]

Nathanael: I will keep Your Dad, and your whole family in my thoughts and 
prayers for a full and speedy recovery, and hopefully he will be home for 
Christmas, Chuck (Alexander)

- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Davenport" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 8:05 AM
Subject: [VFB] Tom Davenport in Hospital


>
> This is Nathanael Davenport, Tom Davenport's son. He asked me to write
> to the group to let you all know that he is in the hospital dealing
> with complications from a prostatectomy. A blog with the latest
> updates on his health is at http://tomdavenport.blogspot.com  Thanks!
>
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[VFB] Re: Your first fly you tied

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I still use the whip finish tool I made and I cannot use any other (I can't 
even learn to do it with my fingers LOL).. I took the outline of a took, an old 
wire coat hanger. Bent a cpl of them to the correct shape. Then, on the handle, 
I glued on one bead up near the bend. Then I put a small sized straw (coffee 
stirrer straw) over the coat hanger for a swiveling handle. Then, I glued 
another bead on the end, so the straw wouldn't come off, and walla. I have been 
using it 4 years now and cannot use any other, and I can tie a whip finish in 2 
seconds flat. I have attached a pic of one of them.Somebody on this group. I 
can't remember who right now, has a website on making your own tools and things 
like that.. Chuck

  - Original Message - 
  From: Jared DuBach 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 6:34 PM
  Subject: [VFB] Re: Your first fly you tied


  Total DIY, Chuck! When you think about it, as long as it works who's to say 
otherwise? I know plenty of people who make some of their own tools, one guy 
uses the little scissors out of his men's grooming kit and another guys uses 
his standard bench vice in his garage.







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  To: flyfishingandflytyingforpanf...@yahoogroups.com; vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
  Subject: [VFB] Re: Your first fly you tied
  Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 14:34:17 -0600


  hahaha. I remember when I first came to this group. Had no money to even buy 
a starter kit, so I build a "vise" by drilling a hole into the bottom of a cast 
iron skillet, putting a alligator clip on a bolt through that hole. Then, 
making "bobbins" out of old coat hangers, straws, and tape LOL.. And used my 
wife's sewing thread of course, Chuck

- Original Message - 
From: Alan Di Somma 
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 10:16 AM
Subject: [VFB] Re: Your first fly you tied


I guess I was about 10 years old when I saw some flys in a display case at 
my local sporting goods store in Union City, N.J.
So I went home and got some pigeon feathers and some of my mom's blue and 
red threads and proceeded to make my very first fly.
I still have that fly today and I always wanted to be a fly fisherman.
My friends and I always used spinning gear and it wasn't until I moved to 
Phoenix, AZ. and joined a flyfishing club.
A San Carlos Apache Indian taught me how to tie.

phxflyt...@cox.net

A Freudian slip is when you say one thing but mean your mother.
  - Original Message - 
  From: John C. Bennett 
  To: 'vfb-mail@googlegroups.com' ; 
'flyfishingandflytyingforpanf...@yahoogroups.com' 
  Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 8:31 AM
  Subject: [VFB] Your first fly you tied


   
  Here is an interesting question. What was your first fly that you tied? 
Do you still have it? Do you still tie that same pattern and use it for fishing.



  My first fly (I’ll have to post a picture of it) was a Mickey Finn 
Streamer w/ Peacock tied over the top. I still have it displayed in a case in 
our front room. People once and awhile will ask about it. It was the first fly 
that a beginner fly tying kit instructed me to tie.



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[VFB] Re: Your first fly you tied

[boosbooksandbargains]

hahaha. I remember when I first came to this group. Had no money to even buy a 
starter kit, so I build a "vise" by drilling a hole into the bottom of a cast 
iron skillet, putting a alligator clip on a bolt through that hole. Then, 
making "bobbins" out of old coat hangers, straws, and tape LOL.. And used my 
wife's sewing thread of course, Chuck

  - Original Message - 
  From: Alan Di Somma 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 10:16 AM
  Subject: [VFB] Re: Your first fly you tied


  I guess I was about 10 years old when I saw some flys in a display case at my 
local sporting goods store in Union City, N.J.
  So I went home and got some pigeon feathers and some of my mom's blue and red 
threads and proceeded to make my very first fly.
  I still have that fly today and I always wanted to be a fly fisherman.
  My friends and I always used spinning gear and it wasn't until I moved to 
Phoenix, AZ. and joined a flyfishing club.
  A San Carlos Apache Indian taught me how to tie.

  phxflyt...@cox.net

  A Freudian slip is when you say one thing but mean your mother.
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From: John C. Bennett 
To: 'vfb-mail@googlegroups.com' ; 
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Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 8:31 AM
Subject: [VFB] Your first fly you tied


 
Here is an interesting question. What was your first fly that you tied? Do 
you still have it? Do you still tie that same pattern and use it for fishing.

 

My first fly (I'll have to post a picture of it) was a Mickey Finn Streamer 
w/ Peacock tied over the top. I still have it displayed in a case in our front 
room. People once and awhile will ask about it. It was the first fly that a 
beginner fly tying kit instructed me to tie.

 

 John Bennett

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[VFB] Re: Your first fly you tied Swap + Story

[boosbooksandbargains]

Jimi: I would be, but I'm in FIVE other swaps right now, so just don't have 
the time right now, Chuck

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Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 10:47 AM
Subject: [VFB] Your first fly you tied Swap + Story


>
> Just thinking, have not hosted a swap in a while, was wondering if anyone
> would be interested in a "First Fly" swap? Could make it a bit interesting
> if each tier included a story of how they decided to tie the fly, how they
> got started and the results.
>
> I could put this into a word document so that each would not only have the
> pattern, but the story with it about how you got started.
>
> Anyone interested?
> Jimi
> USCG ITWPATWT 100% Vet
>
>
> > 


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[VFB] Buy From VFB

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Folks: I just found out http://www.projecthealingwaters.org/html/buystuff.html  
That Virtual Fly Box is a benefactor to Project Healing Waters and part of your 
purchases there goes to Project healing Waters.. So, we need to try to shop 
there as often as possible to help our wounded soldiers, Chuck

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[VFB] Re: Project Healing Waters

[boosbooksandbargains]

John: Thanks, I JUST emailed their administrator, Chuck

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  Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 12:21 PM
  Subject: [VFB] Re: Project Healing Waters


  Chuck, I know that casting for recovery could use some help. For anyone that 
knows someone who went through that, it can be a hard process.

  http://www.castingforrecovery.org/

   John Bennett
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  Jack: Thanks a lot... I'm hoping they need flies. Or, I'm gonna see if there 
  is ANYTHING else I could do to help, Chuck   Disabled Air Force Vet 
  1975-1981

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  To: 
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  Subject: [VFB] Re: Project Healing Waters


  >
  > http://projecthealingwaters.org/
  >
  > and thank you
  >
  > Jack
  > sgt infantry '69-'71
  >
  > boosbooksandbarga...@earthlink.net wrote:
  >> Can anybody give me an email address to contact the  "Project Healing
  >> Waters" ?? Thanks, Chuck
  >>
  >> >
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[VFB] Re: Project Healing Waters

[boosbooksandbargains]

Jack: Thanks a lot... I'm hoping they need flies. Or, I'm gonna see if there 
is ANYTHING else I could do to help, Chuck   Disabled Air Force Vet 
1975-1981

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>
> http://projecthealingwaters.org/
>
> and thank you
>
> Jack
> sgt infantry '69-'71
>
> boosbooksandbarga...@earthlink.net wrote:
>> Can anybody give me an email address to contact the  "Project Healing
>> Waters" ?? Thanks, Chuck
>>
>> >
>
> > 


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[VFB] Fw: Shooting video

[boosbooksandbargains]

DonO: Maybe a better way to explain what I was trying to say is that, when you 
do that "spiraling" I was talking about is this..A rope is nothing more than a 
bunch of single strands spiraled together to form a "rope" right??? So, in the 
rope dub, you are making the dubbing one of those "strands" along with the 
thread being another "strand", thus ending up with a two stranded rope?? 
Right?? or wrong??? Chuck

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To: DonO 
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 10:25 AM
Subject: Re: Shooting video


If this is the case, that POV camera AK Best uses will be as close to you 
ACTUALLY being there with the person as you'll get.. I'm confused about the 
rope dub though. The way I saw and read it, what you are doing is making the 
dubbing into a tear drop shape right?? Tying the end of that to the hook, then 
spinning the dubbing around the thread?? Not spinning it around like normal 
dubbing, but "spiraling" it around the thread?? Or am I completely off base??? 
I wish I could see it in person, Chuck

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  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 11:32 AM
  Subject: Re: Shooting video


  Chuck,

  It was kinda on purpose that there was an instructional gap for the rope dub. 
 I wanted the methods and results published, but not totally, because it would 
be pirated and other people would put their names on it.  Not many tiers, even 
the professionals, have mastered my rope-dub, other than the ones I've 
personally tutored.  Why?  Because the more experience they have in traditional 
dubbing, the more they try to make my method conform to what they know, and the 
less it works.  Hee hee.  So in essence, I am still required to put on personal 
tutoring to get tiers to have the light-bulb come on.  It used to amaze me, 
that even after hours of trying to emulate what I was doing with the rope-dub, 
that professional tiers were having trouble with it, yet novice tiers were 
having little trouble mastering it.  Now I realize it's a matter of teaching 
old dogs new tricks, and the more ingrained old habits are, the harder they are 
to break.  Since the rope-dub method is very similar in appearance to 
traditional methods, the important points of difference are missed.  When I 
tutor someone, I have them try, and then show.  They try again, and then I show 
again.  You should see the eyes go wide and the jaws drop of master tiers when 
they finally see and get the rope-dub method.

  So when I do my video, I will film it in such a way as I'm personally 
tutoring.  It WILL be emuch better than the VFB sequence, since I saved the 
essence of the technique for a cd.

  Don
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Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 3:40 AM
Subject: Shooting video


DonO: You were talking about shooting video. Have you seen any of A. K. 
Best's videos??? If not, let Me send you one. They wanted him to make a video 
to go with a book he wrote several years ago, but he wouldn't do it till the 
technology caught up to where he wanted it. He uses what is called a POV (point 
of View) camera. The tiny (1 inch diameter by about 3 inch long) camera mounts 
on a flex shaft and it's gets "up close and personal. What the tier sees, the 
person watches sees.. You see EVERY blemish, and you see EVERY thing that is 
done correctly. I'm seen your rope dub video on VFB, and with a normal camera, 
it's just not very easy to see what you are doing. BUT, with that POV, NOBODY 
could step away from the TV and NOT know how to rope dub. It's just that 
simple. Want me to burn you a video and send it to you Chuck





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[VFB] Re: Funny Story

[boosbooksandbargains]

Rene: Yeah it is. And yeah, the way they are making  mini cameras nowadays, 
I know you could fit one in some  bass casting lures, or big saltwater 
lures.. That would be neat watching the fish coming for your lure or fly, 
Chuck

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Chuck,
interesting gadget. I guess the next step are cameras, which will be
incorporated into lures, or streamer.
I should patend a pattern 'Adams Camera'.
Rene



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Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 04:14:41 +0100
Subject: [VFB] Funny Story
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: , "fly fishing for panfish"
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Folks: I heard a funny story today. My wife and i were at our
brand new 150,000+ sq ft Bass Pro shop today and were just looking
around (mostly in the fly fishing/tying section), but we came upon
these Cameras that you have a little 5 or 7 inch "TV screen" and you
drop the camera over board and see if there are any fish around.
Well, the guy who worked there was talking to us and told us a guy
came in Saturday and said "I need to get one of these, My wife says
she's tired of my holding her head under the water to look for the
fish" ROFL, Chuck






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[VFB] Funny Story

[boosbooksandbargains]

Folks: I heard a funny story today. My wife and i were at our brand new 
150,000+ sq ft Bass Pro shop today and were just looking around (mostly in the 
fly fishing/tying section), but we came upon these Cameras that you have a 
little 5 or 7 inch "TV screen" and you drop the camera over board and see if 
there are any fish around. Well, the guy who worked there was talking to us and 
told us a guy came in Saturday and said "I need to get one of these, My wife 
says she's tired of my holding her head under the water to look for the fish" 
ROFL, Chuck

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[VFB] Re: Was U-tube demo, then rot. vice, now CD technology- new thread

[boosbooksandbargains]

Re: [VFB] Nice u-tube fly demoIn answer to your question. I don't know if this 
will help or not, but we rent Videos from Netflix, and 99% of those are all 
regular DVD, Not DVD-HD or Blue Ray. That tells me that at least for the next 
few years, DVD will still be around in vast numbers. Plus, normally, you can go 
down but you cannot go up, meaning that a DVD player will NOT play DVD-HD or 
BlueRay, but I (THINK) that DVD-HD will play DVD plain, and Blue Ray will 
probably play both the other two..Plain as mud LOL.. HTH, Chuck
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  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
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  Subject: [VFB] Was U-tube demo, then rot. vice, now CD technology- new thread


  LOL, that's me, too.  I have rotary capability on my Dyna-King, but I just 
don't use it.  Learned to tie without rotary, so it's just an add-on 
capability.  Very few of my flies need rotary assistance, since I tie few flies 
that need spinning, and the ones that need spinning can easily be done by 
hand-spinning.  What I need is a bull-dog grip and a firm foundation to build 
patterns that have defined tops and bottoms.

  I'll be meeting today with the videographer, so I'll be one step closer to 
making fly-tying cd's.  So do I go High Definition or Blue Ray?  Was told that 
HD lost out to BR like Beta lost out to VHS.  Now both Beta and VHS are gone.  
Do I get rid of my HD player now- I have lots of movies and stuff in HD?  Do I 
buy a HD video camera (if the players phase out?), or Blue Ray camera for the 
coming technology?  Is Blue-ray just for movies?  But if it takes a different 
player, why not dual players like the VHS/CD players.  Again, it seems the 
collateral damage of the technology wars is my checkbook, along with the losing 
tecnology.

  This is flyfishing related, because after I have 2 or 3 videos 'in the can' 
from a professional, I want to start filming my own, thus I need to buy the 
equipment.  But if the viewing public has 3 or 4 viewing technologies, which 
one do I film in and make the investment?  Are Blue-rays reproducible?  DO THEY 
PLAY ON COMPUTERS?  Do they convert to other technologies or play on lesser 
machines?  Are there copyright/security programs for them to stop pirating?  
Would it be better to film in the older technology for the majority that have 
CD libraries already?

  Audio:
  I still have a record-player and a huge library of vinyl records.
  I still have a box-full of 8-tracks, but no player.
  I still have boxes and boxes of cassetts, and one or two players.
  I have lots of audio cd's and players
  My wife now has an i-pod.

  Video:
  I still have many VHS tapes and one player (no Beta)
  I have many video cd's
  We have started a library of HD DVD movies.

  Yes, the new technologies are better, but that doesn't justify destroying a 
library of the previous technology.  But since this isn't primarily for 
personal use, what video technology do I provide as a retail business?  I guess 
this is a marketing question, isn't it.

  I'm in the learning mode here, so any advice would be appreciated and used.

  DonO
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From: Allan Fish 
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 7:37 AM
Subject: [VFB] Re: Nice u-tube fly demo


Thanks, Iain.   Lots of good videos on that site.


But look at him.  He spent all that hard-earned money (at least it would 
have been in my case) to get a high-end rotary vise and then doesn't use it 
except to examine the fly AFTER it's done.


A.


  Hi Guys

  http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=pwtbbQhhCwI&feature=related

  its in Spanish but the picture says it all

  he has some other nice demo's on her as well

  iain


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[VFB] Re: 4 swap madness

[boosbooksandbargains]

Thanks, Chuck

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  Subject: [VFB] Re: 4 swap madness



I wil put you down
Rick 

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  Date: Wednesday, November 12, 2008, 4:19 AM


  Rick: If there is room left in the minnow swap I'd like to get in 
that one as well. I'll let you know the pattern ASAP. Thanks, Chuck

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From: Rick Zieger 
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 1:18 PM
Subject: [VFB] Re: 4 swap madness


  you are in

  Rick 

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wrote:

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [VFB] Re: 4 swap madness
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Saturday, November 8, 2008, 12:18 AM


Rick: Can you put me down for the panfish?? Thanks, Chuck

  - Original Message - 
  From: Rick Zieger 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 5:23 PM
  Subject: [VFB] 4 swap madness


not sure if the first one made it.

The insanty strikes again. 
10 people to the swap.  If more than than sign up 
then there will be more thanone group in each swap. 

1.  panfishfurled taill mohair 
leech 

2.  minnowGoldie Jr. 

3.  caddis pupa  pupal pattern form Fly 
Fish America

4.  ostrich  wet fly 

These are the flies I will be tying.

join 1,2,3, or all four.

email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]  that is the only way 
to join so that the rest of the commincations can be off list. 

sign up by Dec 10.  Flies due by Feb 1, 2009 
I will send my address when we have the final llist 
out. 




  

 
   

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[VFB] Re: 4 swap madness

[boosbooksandbargains]

Rick: If I'm in this pone, put me down for the "Muddler Minnow" I have always 
wanted to learn this pattern, but never have tried it..So, now would be as good 
a time as any to learn.. All it takes is practice, practice, practice< and then 
"Just do it" right??? Plus, I have a cpl DVD's with the guys tying it, and also 
the step by step pics from my books and places like FAOL. Thanks, Chuck

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  Rick: If there is room left in the minnow swap I'd like to get in that one as 
well. I'll let you know the pattern ASAP. Thanks, Chuck

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To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 1:18 PM
Subject: [VFB] Re: 4 swap madness


  you are in

  Rick 

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Date: Saturday, November 8, 2008, 12:18 AM


Rick: Can you put me down for the panfish?? Thanks, Chuck

  - Original Message - 
  From: Rick Zieger 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 5:23 PM
  Subject: [VFB] 4 swap madness


not sure if the first one made it.

The insanty strikes again. 
10 people to the swap.  If more than than sign up then 
there will be more thanone group in each swap. 

1.  panfishfurled taill mohair leech 

2.  minnowGoldie Jr. 

3.  caddis pupa  pupal pattern form Fly Fish America

4.  ostrich  wet fly 

These are the flies I will be tying.

join 1,2,3, or all four.

email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]  that is the only way to join 
so that the rest of the commincations can be off list. 

sign up by Dec 10.  Flies due by Feb 1, 2009 
I will send my address when we have the final llist out. 


  

 

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[VFB] Re: 4 swap madness

[boosbooksandbargains]

Rick: If there is room left in the minnow swap I'd like to get in that one as 
well. I'll let you know the pattern ASAP. Thanks, Chuck

  - Original Message - 
  From: Rick Zieger 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 1:18 PM
  Subject: [VFB] Re: 4 swap madness


you are in

Rick 

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  Rick: Can you put me down for the panfish?? Thanks, Chuck

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From: Rick Zieger 
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 5:23 PM
Subject: [VFB] 4 swap madness


  not sure if the first one made it.

  The insanty strikes again. 
  10 people to the swap.  If more than than sign up then there 
will be more thanone group in each swap. 

  1.  panfishfurled taill mohair leech 

  2.  minnowGoldie Jr. 

  3.  caddis pupa  pupal pattern form Fly Fish America

  4.  ostrich  wet fly 

  These are the flies I will be tying.

  join 1,2,3, or all four.

  email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]  that is the only way to join 
so that the rest of the commincations can be off list. 

  sign up by Dec 10.  Flies due by Feb 1, 2009 
  I will send my address when we have the final llist out. 





   

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[VFB] Re: 4 swap madness

[boosbooksandbargains]

Rick: Can you put me down for the panfish?? Thanks, Chuck

  - Original Message - 
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  Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 5:23 PM
  Subject: [VFB] 4 swap madness


not sure if the first one made it.

The insanty strikes again. 
10 people to the swap.  If more than than sign up then there will be 
more thanone group in each swap. 

1.  panfishfurled taill mohair leech 

2.  minnowGoldie Jr. 

3.  caddis pupa  pupal pattern form Fly Fish America

4.  ostrich  wet fly 

These are the flies I will be tying.

join 1,2,3, or all four.

email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]  that is the only way to join so that the 
rest of the commincations can be off list. 

sign up by Dec 10.  Flies due by Feb 1, 2009 
I will send my address when we have the final llist out. 


  


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[VFB] Re: OLD FART Patterns 11/1

[boosbooksandbargains]

Keith: My kids always played in the marching band in High School and I always 
wondered where we got the term "trumpet" from.. My wife says mine would be more 
like a "tuba" ROFL, Chuck

  - Original Message - 
  From: Keith 
  To: Jimmy D. Moore ; *Tom ; *Rene Zillmann ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] ; *Rick Zieger ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; *Allan Fish ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Jerryphl9 ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Virtual Fly Box ; Fly 
Fishing World ; Hill Coountry Fly Fishers 
  Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 3:59 PM
  Subject: Re: OLD FART Patterns 11/1


  My pattern will be called the "Ancient Trump" one of my own invention! 
Ancient is obviously "old" and trump is an old polite word for Fart!!
  Looks a great list of tiers in this swap.
  Cheers
  Keith
- Original Message - 
From: Jimmy D. Moore 
To: *Tom ; *Rene Zillmann ; *Jimmy Moore ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] ; *Rick Zieger ; *Keith ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; *Allan Fish ; [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Tony Spezio ; [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] ; Jerryphl9 ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; 
Virtual Fly Box ; Fly Fishing World ; Hill Coountry Fly Fishers 
Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 2:17 PM
Subject: OLD FART Patterns 11/1


There's been Êa question aboutÊ size/kind of fly to tie. Makes no 
difference to me as long as you don't tie one of those foot tall presentaton 
flies like Don Ordes ties and sells for $250 + each.

NAME Ê- ÊFLY FISHING EMAIL LIST
Jimmy Moore - CRS Special
Joe Fusco - 
Everett Hall - 
Chuck Alexander - Guadalupe Red
Jerry Caruso - Ridley Creek Fuzzball
Melvin Rowe - 
Dail Graham - 
Tim Caillouet - 
Louis Olvitt - Dark Side
Peggy Brenner - 
John Bennett - Red Wulff
Jack Lehman - 
Lee Kirchner - 
Tony Spezio - 
J. Balmer - 
Dan Gober - Alpaca Nymph
George Vincent - 
Allan Fish - 
Keith Passant - 
Rick Zieger - Furled Tail Leech
Gary Webb - Air Head 
Rene Zillmann - Old Ugly
Thomas - 
Jim Phillips -
Jack Morris - 
TOTAL = 25 Old Farts 

CHEERS,

JIMMY D
Ê


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North Zone Fishing Editor - Texas Fish & Game Mag, 
Author - Moon Holler Misfits Fishing & Hunting Club, 
Humorist, Past VP Guadalupe River Trout Unlimited,   
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[VFB] Using reading glasses to read a computer screen...(OFF topic from fishing/tying)

[boosbooksandbargains]

Folks: a lot of you saw my recent posts about my having to wear a high powered 
reading glasses, but then having to increase my font  on emails and on my 
windows screens because I just could not read it. Well, I went to Wal Mart 
tonight and solved the problem..What you do is this, and they have a special 
place on the eye chart to do this. I wear a 3.50 X power reading glass. And I 
read books at a distance of anywhere from 8-10 inches away. But, at 18-22 
inches away from the computer screen, it's VERY fuzzy.. So, I bought a pair of 
1.75 power readers  JUST for my computer (and maybe tying flies, just haven't 
tried that yet)..I can put those on and see the screen and the keyboard 
PERFECTLY. You have to check different powers to see what fits you, but the 
chart said the rule of thumb would be a reader than is half as strong as your 
book reader power.. Try it, you'll like it as the man in the commercial used to 
say, Chuck

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[VFB] Re: OLD FART Swap Closed 10/29 10:10 p.m. CDT

[boosbooksandbargains]

ROFLMBO on the size 2 midge and size 24 streamer. Allan. You get off a goody 
now and then LOL, Chuck

- Original Message - 
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To: 
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 8:31 PM
Subject: [VFB] OLD FART Swap Closed 10/29 10:10 p.m. CDT


>
>>If we we going to tie small flies, I will tie my original Tuft
>>Emerger on a sz 20 Scud Hook if that is OK.
>>Tony
>
> Tpny,
>
> The way I read the rulse, all us old farts can tie anything we want,
> so by definition that is definitely OK.
>
> I dunno, I may tie a size 2 midge!  Or a size 24 streamer.  Or more
> likely something in between.  Maybe my bumblebee.
>
> A.
> -- 
> Allan Fish
> Greenwood, IN
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[VFB] Re: Vise ID...

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MeddelandeGeorge, Where can I get one of those "Third Hand"?? I see him using 
it on the DVD's I have of him tying and those things look real handy. Thanks, 
Chuck

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  From: George 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 2:27 PM
  Subject: [VFB] Re: Vise ID...


  Nick, I have an AK Best Third Hand and the logo is "AK'S Fly Tying Tools" in 
Green Letter with a fly attached to a fly line.

  The vise doesn't look like any in his books or on his video.

  George Vincent



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  A friend dug up this vise from the basement and is curious about the brand.
  Anyone seen it before and knows what it is?

  Logotype: http://sportfiskeforum.se/userpix/10807_stad_1.jpg
  Vise: http://sportfiskeforum.se/userpix/10807_stad_2.jpg

  /Nick
  


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[VFB] Re: My email fonts

[boosbooksandbargains]

Jack: Great idea. Thanks.. I was reading about those tri focals. man, I 
don't see how ppl could get used to them, but my Aunt has the lineless ones 
and she says that now, she can see better than ever and the transitional 
part of the lens don't bother her at all, Chuck

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To: 
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 9:15 AM
Subject: [VFB] Re: My email fonts


>
> Chuck
>
> When you talk to your eye checker, be sure to tell them that you want
> your bifocals set for a computer distance, not a book reading distance.
> They can accomodate you.  Or you can go to trifocals and get all three
> in one.
>
> Jack
> Austin
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Oh, I got 50 pair of reading glasses.I buy them by the dozen at the
>> Dollar Tree store LOL. I put em in the bathroom, in my bedroom, tying
>> table, car, fishing tub, fishing vest, by my computer, in my tool box.
>> You name it.  My problem is that I sit with my face about maybe 16
>> inches from the screen. At that distance, with my glasses on, the
>> screen is blurry. If I take them off, at that distance my normal
>> vision is blurry. I can read the computer by wearing my glasses and
>> putting my head real close to the monitor, which gives me a headache,
>> or by enlarging my fonts, which is what I had to do..Getting to be an
>> "Old fart" is rough LOL.. Thanks,. Chuck
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> *From:* Jimmy D. Moore 
>> *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 29, 2008 11:27 PM
>> *Subject:* [VFB] Re: My email fonts
>>
>> Chuck, you don't need bifocals for your computer.  Just go to
>> Walmart and get a pair of  plain old reading glasses.  That's what
>> I use.  I have 2.0, 2.5 and then 3.0 magnification, that I use for
>> fly tying.  Lots cheaper.
>>
>> JIMMY
>>
>> P.S. My Opthamologist says they are ok and won't hurt your eyes
>>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>> Folks: I don't know if my email fonts on your end are now huge or
>>> not??? If so, I'm sorry, but I had to increase them as my close
>>> up vision is soo bad, i could no longer read my
>>> emails. I have to get some new bi-focals..My far off vision is
>>> pretty good, but on the computer, the screen is just far away
>>> enough to make wearing my reading glasses VERY fuzzy, but is near
>>> enough in that without my reading glasses, reading my mail is
>>> getting near impossible, Chuck
>>>
>>>
>>> >>
>
> > 


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[VFB] Re: My email fonts

[boosbooksandbargains]

J: Thanks a lot.. I tried that (went from 1260 by 768 to 800 by 600) but it 
made it to where I have to scroll up, down, left and right to read a page 
(website). But, if this keeps up, i may have to do that and just get used to 
the scrolling. Thanks again, Chuck

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  From: J Balmer 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 7:52 AM
  Subject: [VFB] Re: My email fonts


  You don't have to change font size, you can change the resolution on your 
computer screen. If you right click on any open area of your desktop a small 
window will pop up with a number of options. Click on "properties" on the 
bottom of that window and a second window, Display Properties, will pop up. 
Click on the "settings" tab to the right of that window. There will be a slide 
bar for screen resolution. If you put the mouse curser over the slide & hold 
down the left mouse button, you can slide it to the left, which will lower the 
screen resolution & make everything bigger on the screen. If you move it far 
enough left, it will change the color quality, so there may be some trade offs 
depending on how much you need to change the resolution.

  J



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  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com; fly fishing for panfish
  Subject: [VFB] My email fonts


  Folks: I don't know if my email fonts on your end are now huge or not??? If 
so, I'm sorry, but I had to increase them as my close up vision is 
soo bad, i could no longer read my emails. I have to get some new 
bi-focals..My far off vision is pretty good, but on the computer, the screen is 
just far away enough to make wearing my reading glasses VERY fuzzy, but is near 
enough in that without my reading glasses, reading my mail is getting near 
impossible, Chuck
  


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[VFB] Re: My email fonts-may I suggest

[boosbooksandbargains]

Joyce: I'm going there just as soon as possible.. Thanks for the tip.. Only 
reason I haven't been before is that I went to one about three years ago. He 
said I needed bi-focals. And I had just been diagnosed with Macular 
degeneration from welding all those years. So, I got the lens that darken in 
the sun, the UV 400 lens etc. I walked out of there $400 lighter. And I still 
could not see right. So, I went back, and back, and back. Three times trying to 
get him to realize they had cut the lenses wrong or something. But, he wouldn't 
budge. He didn't wanna have to pay for new lenses and/or admit he'd made a 
mistake. So, I have those $400 glasses sitting on my dresser. Anyway, just as 
soon as I can, I'll be going to a DIFFERENT doc, Chuck

  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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  Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 5:55 AM
  Subject: [VFB] Re: My email fonts-may I suggest


  May I suggest that it is time to go to your opthalamologist or optomatrist?  
This type of vision may also be due to problems in the back of your eye or 
beginning cataract formation. And if it is cataracts, good news! With our new 
phaco equipment, you can have a cataract removed and regain almost perfect 
vision with the new lenses.  Joyce

  


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[VFB] Re: My email fonts

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Oh, I got 50 pair of reading glasses.I buy them by the dozen at the Dollar Tree 
store LOL. I put em in the bathroom, in my bedroom, tying table, car, fishing 
tub, fishing vest, by my computer, in my tool box. You name it.  My problem is 
that I sit with my face about maybe 16 inches from the screen. At that 
distance, with my glasses on, the screen is blurry. If I take them off, at that 
distance my normal vision is blurry. I can read the computer by wearing my 
glasses and putting my head real close to the monitor, which gives me a 
headache, or by enlarging my fonts, which is what I had to do..Getting to be an 
"Old fart" is rough LOL.. Thanks,. Chuck

  - Original Message - 
  From: Jimmy D. Moore 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 11:27 PM
  Subject: [VFB] Re: My email fonts


  Chuck, you don't need bifocals for your computer.  Just go to Walmart and get 
a pair of  plain old reading glasses.  That's what I use.  I have 2.0, 2.5 and 
then 3.0 magnification, that I use for fly tying.  Lots cheaper. 

  JIMMY 

  P.S. My Opthamologist says they are ok and won't hurt your eyes

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Folks: I don't know if my email fonts on your end are now huge or not??? If 
so, I'm sorry, but I had to increase them as my close up vision is 
soo bad, i could no longer read my emails. I have to get some new 
bi-focals..My far off vision is pretty good, but on the computer, the screen is 
just far away enough to make wearing my reading glasses VERY fuzzy, but is near 
enough in that without my reading glasses, reading my mail is getting near 
impossible, Chuck




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[VFB] My email fonts

[boosbooksandbargains]

Folks: I don't know if my email fonts on your end are now huge or not??? If so, 
I'm sorry, but I had to increase them as my close up vision is soo 
bad, i could no longer read my emails. I have to get some new bi-focals..My far 
off vision is pretty good, but on the computer, the screen is just far away 
enough to make wearing my reading glasses VERY fuzzy, but is near enough in 
that without my reading glasses, reading my mail is getting near impossible, 
Chuck
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[VFB] Re: OLD FART SWAP Update # 2 10/28 3l15 P.M.

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Re: [VFB] OLD FART SWAP Update # 2 10/28 3l15 P.M.I vote for 25 too, Chuck

  - Original Message - 
  From: Allan Fish 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 4:15 PM
  Subject: [VFB] Re: OLD FART SWAP Update # 2 10/28 3l15 P.M.


As of 3:15  p.m. CDT, we have 20 signed up for the Old Fart Swap.  I'm 
inclined to cut it off at 25 tyers, unless you Old Farts think we can tie more. 
 If I don't hear otherwise, 25 it will be. When we reach 25, I will take the 
swap off list except for timely updates that might be of interest to others, 
i.e. names of Old Fart Flies, etc. I will also reiterate the Rules, etc. when I 
move the Swap Off List.


  I vote for a MAX of 25. 


  (I'd be even happier with cutting it off with the current 20 who have already 
signed up)


  Curmudgeonly yours.
-- 
Allan Fish
  Greenwood, IN
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  


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[VFB] Re: CHUCK - was Re: Latest on OLD FART SWAP - dropping age limit.

[boosbooksandbargains]

Joe: Great. Thanks, Chuck

  - Original Message - 
  From: Joseph Fusco, Sr. 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 10:14 AM
  Subject: [VFB] Re: CHUCK - was Re: Latest on OLD FART SWAP - dropping age 
limit.


  Chuck -

  I have some older patterns also.  I will forward you some.

  -- 
  Joe Fusco, Sr.
  Member of The Missouri Trout Fishermen's Association, The International 
Brotherhood of the Flymph and The Virtual Fly Box

  REMEMBER CANCER IS A WORD NOT A SENTENCE

  Reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   
  On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 8:04 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Jerry: Sure.. I'd appreciate that. Thanks,  Chuck

  - Original Message - 
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  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 7:17 PM
  Subject: [VFB] Re: CHUCK - was Re: Latest on OLD FART SWAP - dropping age 
limit.


  I've got a pattern book that contains a bunch of british patterns in it 
some which might be older than the earliest American patterns.  Do you want me 
to check for you.

  --
  Jerry Caruso 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  "All things considered, I'd rather be in Philadelphia"

-- Original message -- 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

> 
> Oh, and I think there was a bunch of "depends" coupons with my AARP 
> membership ROFL... Seriously, I think I'll tie (If Jimmy D will have 
me in 
> the swap) an old pattern. Can somebody give me some examples of some 
real 
> old patterns??? Thanks,. Chuck 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Allan Fish" 
> To: 
> Cc: "Jimmy D. Moore" 
> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 5:55 PM 
> Subject: [VFB] CHUCK - was Re: Latest on OLD FART SWAP - dropping age 
limit. 
> 
> 
> > 
> >>Jimmy: Yeah AARP does. This past April, when I turned 50 ,I started 
> >>getting mail wanting me to join the AARP almost every day. Talk 
> >>about depressing LOL.. I'd like to get in it if I can then.. 
Thanks, 
> >>Chuck 
> >> 
> > 
> > Watch out, CHuck. Jimmy will let you in, but you'll have to flash 
> > your AARP card. 
> > 
> > Al 
> > -- 
> > Allan Fish 
> > Greenwood, IN 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > 
> > > 
> 
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[VFB] Re: CHUCK - was Re: Latest on OLD FART SWAP - dropping age limit.

[boosbooksandbargains]

Jerry: Sure.. I'd appreciate that. Thanks,  Chuck

  - Original Message - 
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  Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 7:17 PM
  Subject: [VFB] Re: CHUCK - was Re: Latest on OLD FART SWAP - dropping age 
limit.


  I've got a pattern book that contains a bunch of british patterns in it some 
which might be older than the earliest American patterns.  Do you want me to 
check for you.

  --
  Jerry Caruso 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  "All things considered, I'd rather be in Philadelphia"

-- Original message -- 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

> 
> Oh, and I think there was a bunch of "depends" coupons with my AARP 
> membership ROFL... Seriously, I think I'll tie (If Jimmy D will have me 
in 
> the swap) an old pattern. Can somebody give me some examples of some real 
> old patterns??? Thanks,. Chuck 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Allan Fish" 
> To: 
> Cc: "Jimmy D. Moore" 
> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 5:55 PM 
> Subject: [VFB] CHUCK - was Re: Latest on OLD FART SWAP - dropping age 
limit. 
> 
> 
> > 
> >>Jimmy: Yeah AARP does. This past April, when I turned 50 ,I started 
> >>getting mail wanting me to join the AARP almost every day. Talk 
> >>about depressing LOL.. I'd like to get in it if I can then.. Thanks, 
> >>Chuck 
> >> 
> > 
> > Watch out, CHuck. Jimmy will let you in, but you'll have to flash 
> > your AARP card. 
> > 
> > Al 
> > -- 
> > Allan Fish 
> > Greenwood, IN 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > 
> > > 
> 
> 
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[VFB] Re: CHUCK - was Re: Latest on OLD FART SWAP - dropping age limit.

[boosbooksandbargains]

Well, I didn't join up yet because all it gave me (that I saw) was some high 
dollar life insurance, and discounts on hotel rooms, car rentals, and 
airline tickets. None of which I'd use LOL, Chuck

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From: "Allan Fish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Cc: "Jimmy D. Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 5:55 PM
Subject: [VFB] CHUCK - was Re: Latest on OLD FART SWAP - dropping age limit.


>
>>Jimmy: Yeah AARP does. This past April, when I turned 50 ,I started
>>getting mail wanting me to join the AARP almost every day. Talk
>>about depressing LOL.. I'd like to get in it if I can then.. Thanks,
>>Chuck
>>
>
> Watch out, CHuck.  Jimmy will let you in, but you'll have to flash
> your AARP card.  
>
> Al
> -- 
> Allan Fish
> Greenwood, IN
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[VFB] Re: CHUCK - was Re: Latest on OLD FART SWAP - dropping age limit.

[boosbooksandbargains]

Oh, and I think there was a bunch of "depends" coupons with my AARP 
membership ROFL... Seriously, I think I'll tie (If Jimmy D will have me in 
the swap) an old pattern. Can somebody give me some examples of some real 
old patterns??? Thanks,. Chuck

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Subject: [VFB] CHUCK - was Re: Latest on OLD FART SWAP - dropping age limit.


>
>>Jimmy: Yeah AARP does. This past April, when I turned 50 ,I started
>>getting mail wanting me to join the AARP almost every day. Talk
>>about depressing LOL.. I'd like to get in it if I can then.. Thanks,
>>Chuck
>>
>
> Watch out, CHuck.  Jimmy will let you in, but you'll have to flash
> your AARP card.  
>
> Al
> -- 
> Allan Fish
> Greenwood, IN
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[VFB] Re: Latest on OLD FART SWAP - dropping age limit.

[boosbooksandbargains]

Jimmy: Yeah AARP does. This past April, when I turned 50 ,I started getting 
mail wanting me to join the AARP almost every day. Talk about depressing LOL.. 
I'd like to get in it if I can then.. Thanks, Chuck

  - Original Message - 
  From: Jimmy D. Moore 
  To: Virtual Fly Box ; Fly Fishing World ; Hill Coountry Fly Fishers 
  Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 5:22 PM
  Subject: [VFB] Latest on OLD FART SWAP - dropping age limit.


  I didn't mean to discriminate against those of you under 65.  It just sounded 
like a good age to use.  Also, it doesn't appear that we have many 65 or older 
members since only three of us have signed up. Could be a small swap at this 
rate.   So . . . . . 

  Maybe you can be an old fart and be 60, 55 or even 50.  Doesn't AARP count 
age 50 as a Senior?   With that said, I'm dropping the age limit to 50.  One of 
you said, and I quote: "Would that 65 or older have to be my legal age? My wife 
tells me that I act like an old bitter fart all the time."  

  So if you're 50 or older and and want to join and don't mind being called an 
OF, welcome aboard.  To join, just reply to this email and add your name after 
the last name below.

  Jimmy Moore
  Joe Fusco
  Everett Hall


  Git - R - Dun ! 
  ><º>  **
JIMMY D. MOORE[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
North Zone Fishing Editor - Texas Fish & Game Mag, 
Author - Moon Holler Misfits Fishing & Hunting Club, 
Humorist, Past VP Guadalupe River Trout Unlimited,   
Member TOWA, Retired Scout Exec. BSA.   
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[VFB] Re: Old Fart Swap

[boosbooksandbargains]

Jack: You could start a "Young Fart" swap.. I'd like to get in that one 
LOL.. Chuck 50 1/2 but look 80 1/2 but act 2 1/2 LOLOL

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Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 10:51 AM
Subject: [VFB] Re: Old Fart Swap



Sounds like age discrimination to me.  I suppose the only OTHER rule
would be 'no synthetic materials to be used'.

Jack
Austin
59 1/2


Jimmy D. Moore wrote:
> Morning Gang!
>
> Just thinking it's time for me to host another Swap. Those of you who
> have participated in one of my 15 previous ones seem to have enjoyed
> the fun and frivolity of my "Off the Wall" swaps.
>
> I've meistered March Madness I & II, Colors I & II, Retiree, Ham
> Radio, Chili Pepper, Eagle Scout, Blues I & II, Jody's Courage,
> Renegade, Steelhead, Redneck, & Murf Memorial.
>
> To make this one really different, I'm thinking of an OLD FART SWAP!
>  You'll need to be at least 65 years old before the end of this year,
> ore thereabout.  The fly you'd tie would be one of your own design,
> preferably one of your favorites, fly size up to you.  At this point,
> I'm just testing the water. As those of you who have participated in
> my seaps before already know, there'll be around 25 participants.
>  Could be more.  Could be less, depending on the number of OLD FARTS
> who can still do a whip finish. :-) ;-) :-P :-D
>
> *Time frame for flies to me would be around the first of February,
> with the usual toe tags, return postage & packaging or pre-stamped
> return package.*
>
> I look forward to hearing from you OF's who can still tie a fly.
>
> JIMMY D
>
>
> -- 
>
>
>   ><º>  **
> JIMMY D. MOORE[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> North Zone Fishing Editor - Texas Fish & Game Mag,
> Author - Moon Holler Misfits Fishing & Hunting Club,
> Humorist, Past VP Guadalupe River Trout Unlimited,
> Member TOWA, Retired Scout Exec. BSA.
> *  <º><   *
>
>
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[VFB] Re: EVERYONE READ MY LIPS...

[boosbooksandbargains]

Byard: I see. Thanks, Chuck

- Original Message - 
From: "Byard Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 5:21 PM
Subject: [VFB] Re: EVERYONE READ MY LIPS...


>
> Chuck et al...
>
> The topic did indeed stray off into politics and religion. Those
> topics are not appropriate for flyfishing mail lists. All they do is
> rub some folks the wrong way and the end result is [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Jerry's post was spot on and I wish I was capable of curbing you all
> with the same eloquence.
>
> In regards to your question pertaining to prayer requests, I
> personally don't consider it a big problem. If you feel the need of
> solace from your fellow listers regarding a loved one in need, by all
> means post a note to the list. Maybe refrain from captioning the post
> as "prayers needed", but instead use a bit more subtle subject. And
> please, everyone, try to respond to such requests off-list.
>
> Personally, the only folks that I discuss matters regarding religion
> and politics are my Mom and my very few closest friends. They may
> argue with me, but they will remain my Mom and my close friends.
>
> It is certainly much more appropriate for this list to be arguing
> about the exact shade of olive needed to tie the perfect BWO Wally-
> wing Spinner.
>
> The only reason I have been dragged out of hibernation is due to the
> personal emails I received regarding the current political/religious
> debacle, demanding the expulsion from the list of this one for saying
> that and that one for saying this. I actually have far too many hats
> to wear at this time to don another, so you guys figure it all out.
> And by all means feel free to direct all of your opinions to me
> OFF-LIST please!
>
> do keep tyin'...byard
>
> Byard Miller
> Line's End Inc 
> Virtual Flybox 
> Photos 
>
>
>
>
> On Oct 24, 2008, at 2:29 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>
>> Jerry: Oh, and the reason i asked that is because there have been no
>> "religious" posts, only prayer requests, so I took Byard to mean no
>> more
>> prayer requests as well...Chuck
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "jerry goldsmith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: 
>> Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 1:09 PM
>> Subject: [VFB] Re: EVERYONE READ MY LIPS...
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Chuck,
>>>
>>> A prayer request is a far different thing than a religious post.
>>>
>>> Jerry Goldsmith
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 1:20 PM
>>> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: [VFB] Re: EVERYONE READ MY LIPS...
>>>
>>>
>>> Byard: You mean this means no prayer requests??? If so, that ain't
>>> the
>>> type
>>> of UN humane group I wanna be a part of.. Chuck
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Byard Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 10:42 AM
>>> Subject: [VFB] EVERYONE READ MY LIPS...
>>>
>>>


 NO POLITICS!

 NO RELIGION!

 NO FLAMES!

 Need I say more?

 keep tyin'...byard
 VFB Chief Cook & Bottle Washer

 Byard Miller
 Line's End Inc 
 Virtual Flybox 
 Photos 


>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
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[VFB] Re: BUG SWAP IMPORTANT PLEASE READ! YOU MUST SIGN UP ON THIS POST!

[boosbooksandbargains]

Bob, I want to be IN.. That's what I was asking.. Double checking with you to 
make sure I was in before ordering any materials for the swap..I'd like to do 
something in Stripped Hackle Quills. Thanks, Chuck 

  - Original Message - 
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  Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 3:14 PM
  Subject: [VFB] Re: BUG SWAP IMPORTANT PLEASE READ! YOU MUST SIGN UP ON THIS 
POST!


  No I am not ingoring anyone.  It is up to you Chuck if you want in you are 
in, if not no hard feelings.  I average close to 300 emails a day and the 
sorting doesn't work to well on comcast.   While the swap is on I am going to 
download the emails so I can have the proper flitering done as not to miss 
anything.

  What questions did you have?

  BobH

-- Original message -- 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

You didn't get my emails??? I wasn't trying to be ugly. I thought you were 
ignoring me, Chuck

  - Original Message - 
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  Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 2:37 PM
  Subject: [VFB] Re: BUG SWAP IMPORTANT PLEASE READ! YOU MUST SIGN UP ON 
THIS POST!



  haven't gotten any but you are out
-- Original message -- 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

Bob: Since you don't answer my off list questions, please take me OFF 
the swap if you have me in it. I'm not trying to be ugly, but if the meister 
don't have good communication with the tiers and answer their questions, it 
will only lead to confusion, Thanks, Chuck

  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 9:47 AM
  Subject: [VFB] BUG SWAP IMPORTANT PLEASE READ! YOU MUST SIGN UP ON 
THIS POST!


  YOU MUST SIGN UP ON THIS POST!

  This is who has signed up so far.  Please check if your name & 
material are included.  If not please add your name to this list.  Due to the 
volume of email I receive each day it is possible I missed someone. If I missed 
you I aplogize and add your name to this list.  Just add your name & material.



  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: VFB 
  Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 2:03 PM
  Subject: [VFB] BUG SWAP IMPORTANT PLEASE READ!


  First off I am expanding the swap to a total of 15.  If this is a 
promblem please remove yourslf from the list.  Also make sure your name is on 
the list.  You must sign up on this post to be included!
  Please include the material you will use in your fly.  You will 
also be required to tye with some of the other materials members have selected. 

  1. Bob Haering -- HOST -- foam open or closed cell. 
  2. John Bennett - CDC 
  3. Allan Fish -- marabou 
  4. J Balmer - Gold Pheasant 
  5. Jimi, --Chartreuse Grizzly Hackle -- other tyers may use 
natuarl or other colors
  6. Dail Grahm -- Turkey or Goose Biots
   7. Jerry McKaughan  -- ???
   8. Rene -- Natural Raffia
   9. Chuck Alexander- Stripped Hackle Quills 
  10. Jim Hodson -- copper wire
  11.
  12.
  13.
  14.
  15.
   
  Thanks 
  BobH 

  


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[boosbooksandbargains]

You didn't get my emails??? I wasn't trying to be ugly. I thought you were 
ignoring me, Chuck

  - Original Message - 
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  haven't gotten any but you are out
-- Original message -- 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

Bob: Since you don't answer my off list questions, please take me OFF the 
swap if you have me in it. I'm not trying to be ugly, but if the meister don't 
have good communication with the tiers and answer their questions, it will only 
lead to confusion, Thanks, Chuck

  - Original Message - 
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  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 9:47 AM
  Subject: [VFB] BUG SWAP IMPORTANT PLEASE READ! YOU MUST SIGN UP ON THIS 
POST!


  YOU MUST SIGN UP ON THIS POST!

  This is who has signed up so far.  Please check if your name & material 
are included.  If not please add your name to this list.  Due to the volume of 
email I receive each day it is possible I missed someone. If I missed you I 
aplogize and add your name to this list.  Just add your name & material.



  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: VFB 
  Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 2:03 PM
  Subject: [VFB] BUG SWAP IMPORTANT PLEASE READ!


  First off I am expanding the swap to a total of 15.  If this is a 
promblem please remove yourslf from the list.  Also make sure your name is on 
the list.  You must sign up on this post to be included!
  Please include the material you will use in your fly.  You will also 
be required to tye with some of the other materials members have selected. 

  1. Bob Haering -- HOST -- foam open or closed cell. 
  2. John Bennett - CDC 
  3. Allan Fish -- marabou 
  4. J Balmer - Gold Pheasant 
  5. Jimi, --Chartreuse Grizzly Hackle -- other tyers may use natuarl 
or other colors
  6. Dail Grahm -- Turkey or Goose Biots
   7. Jerry McKaughan  -- ???
   8. Rene -- Natural Raffia
   9. Chuck Alexander- Stripped Hackle Quills 
  10. Jim Hodson -- copper wire
  11.
  12.
  13.
  14.
  15.
   
  Thanks 
  BobH 

  


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[boosbooksandbargains]

You didn't get my emails??? I wasn't trying to be ugly. I thought you were 
ignoring me, Chuck

  - Original Message - 
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  haven't gotten any but you are out
-- Original message -- 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

Bob: Since you don't answer my off list questions, please take me OFF the 
swap if you have me in it. I'm not trying to be ugly, but if the meister don't 
have good communication with the tiers and answer their questions, it will only 
lead to confusion, Thanks, Chuck

  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 9:47 AM
  Subject: [VFB] BUG SWAP IMPORTANT PLEASE READ! YOU MUST SIGN UP ON THIS 
POST!


  YOU MUST SIGN UP ON THIS POST!

  This is who has signed up so far.  Please check if your name & material 
are included.  If not please add your name to this list.  Due to the volume of 
email I receive each day it is possible I missed someone. If I missed you I 
aplogize and add your name to this list.  Just add your name & material.



  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: VFB 
  Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 2:03 PM
  Subject: [VFB] BUG SWAP IMPORTANT PLEASE READ!


  First off I am expanding the swap to a total of 15.  If this is a 
promblem please remove yourslf from the list.  Also make sure your name is on 
the list.  You must sign up on this post to be included!
  Please include the material you will use in your fly.  You will also 
be required to tye with some of the other materials members have selected. 

  1. Bob Haering -- HOST -- foam open or closed cell. 
  2. John Bennett - CDC 
  3. Allan Fish -- marabou 
  4. J Balmer - Gold Pheasant 
  5. Jimi, --Chartreuse Grizzly Hackle -- other tyers may use natuarl 
or other colors
  6. Dail Grahm -- Turkey or Goose Biots
   7. Jerry McKaughan  -- ???
   8. Rene -- Natural Raffia
   9. Chuck Alexander- Stripped Hackle Quills 
  10. Jim Hodson -- copper wire
  11.
  12.
  13.
  14.
  15.
   
  Thanks 
  BobH 

  


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[VFB] Re: EVERYONE READ MY LIPS...

[boosbooksandbargains]

Jerry: Oh, and the reason i asked that is because there have been no 
"religious" posts, only prayer requests, so I took Byard to mean no more 
prayer requests as well...Chuck

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To: 
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 1:09 PM
Subject: [VFB] Re: EVERYONE READ MY LIPS...


>
> Chuck,
>
> A prayer request is a far different thing than a religious post.
>
> Jerry Goldsmith
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf
> Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 1:20 PM
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [VFB] Re: EVERYONE READ MY LIPS...
>
>
> Byard: You mean this means no prayer requests??? If so, that ain't the 
> type
> of UN humane group I wanna be a part of.. Chuck
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Byard Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 10:42 AM
> Subject: [VFB] EVERYONE READ MY LIPS...
>
>
>>
>>
>> NO POLITICS!
>>
>> NO RELIGION!
>>
>> NO FLAMES!
>>
>> Need I say more?
>>
>> keep tyin'...byard
>> VFB Chief Cook & Bottle Washer
>>
>> Byard Miller
>> Line's End Inc 
>> Virtual Flybox 
>> Photos 
>>
>>
>> >
>
>
>
>
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[VFB] Re: EVERYONE READ MY LIPS...

[boosbooksandbargains]

Jerry: In my eyes it is, but I want to know what Byard thinks cause he owns 
the group... Thanks, Chuck

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>
> Chuck,
>
> A prayer request is a far different thing than a religious post.
>
> Jerry Goldsmith
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf
> Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 1:20 PM
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [VFB] Re: EVERYONE READ MY LIPS...
>
>
> Byard: You mean this means no prayer requests??? If so, that ain't the 
> type
> of UN humane group I wanna be a part of.. Chuck
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Byard Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 10:42 AM
> Subject: [VFB] EVERYONE READ MY LIPS...
>
>
>>
>>
>> NO POLITICS!
>>
>> NO RELIGION!
>>
>> NO FLAMES!
>>
>> Need I say more?
>>
>> keep tyin'...byard
>> VFB Chief Cook & Bottle Washer
>>
>> Byard Miller
>> Line's End Inc 
>> Virtual Flybox 
>> Photos 
>>
>>
>> >
>
>
>
>
> > 


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[VFB] Re: BUG SWAP IMPORTANT PLEASE READ! YOU MUST SIGN UP ON THIS POST!

[boosbooksandbargains]

Bob: Since you don't answer my off list questions, please take me OFF the swap 
if you have me in it. I'm not trying to be ugly, but if the meister don't have 
good communication with the tiers and answer their questions, it will only lead 
to confusion, Thanks, Chuck

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  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
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  Subject: [VFB] BUG SWAP IMPORTANT PLEASE READ! YOU MUST SIGN UP ON THIS POST!


  YOU MUST SIGN UP ON THIS POST!

  This is who has signed up so far.  Please check if your name & material are 
included.  If not please add your name to this list.  Due to the volume of 
email I receive each day it is possible I missed someone. If I missed you I 
aplogize and add your name to this list.  Just add your name & material.



  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: VFB 
  Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 2:03 PM
  Subject: [VFB] BUG SWAP IMPORTANT PLEASE READ!


  First off I am expanding the swap to a total of 15.  If this is a 
promblem please remove yourslf from the list.  Also make sure your name is on 
the list.  You must sign up on this post to be included!
  Please include the material you will use in your fly.  You will also be 
required to tye with some of the other materials members have selected. 

  1. Bob Haering -- HOST -- foam open or closed cell. 
  2. John Bennett - CDC 
  3. Allan Fish -- marabou 
  4. J Balmer - Gold Pheasant 
  5. Jimi, --Chartreuse Grizzly Hackle -- other tyers may use natuarl or 
other colors
  6. Dail Grahm -- Turkey or Goose Biots
   7. Jerry McKaughan  -- ???
   8. Rene -- Natural Raffia
   9. Chuck Alexander- Stripped Hackle Quills 
  10. Jim Hodson -- copper wire
  11.
  12.
  13.
  14.
  15.
   
  Thanks 
  BobH 

  


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[VFB] Re: EVERYONE READ MY LIPS...

[boosbooksandbargains]

Byard: You mean this means no prayer requests??? If so, that ain't the type 
of UN humane group I wanna be a part of.. Chuck

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To: 
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 10:42 AM
Subject: [VFB] EVERYONE READ MY LIPS...


>
>
> NO POLITICS!
>
> NO RELIGION!
>
> NO FLAMES!
>
> Need I say more?
>
> keep tyin'...byard
> VFB Chief Cook & Bottle Washer
>
> Byard Miller
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[VFB] Re: Fw: [VFB] Re: BUG SWAP IMPORTANT PLEASE READ!

[boosbooksandbargains]

This is from a previous post, so I did get the date right, Chuck


"Great the interest is there!!  Total of 10 (ten tiers) so 9 (nine) are 
needed.  As an added twist, when you sign up add a material.!  So.. Add your 
name to the list and the material you would like to see used.  The material 
you pick YOU MUST USE!  For the due date I am thinking the end of Jan.
If you expressed interest to my first post please make sure you sign up!"

- Original Message - 
From: "Allan Fish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Virtual Flybox" 
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 8:54 PM
Subject: [VFB] Re: Fw: [VFB] Re: BUG SWAP IMPORTANT PLEASE READ!


>
>>OFFLIST... Man, you tie good flies. I wish you'd stay in. He's
>>giving  us till the end of January...That's a lot of healing time
>>ain't it???  Chuck
>
> Oh...I thought it was the end of November.
>
> Dadburnit Chuck, Flattery will get you anything.
>
> BOB - I'M BACK IN IF YOU'LL LET ME!  SORRY FOR THE SAD SOB STORY
>
> I just tied two simple flies (Adams - size 12).  It took me overe 45 
> minutes.
>
> But I can surely do one every 3 days and get done in 3 months!
>
> Allan
> Who scans mail instead of reading it.  :-(
> -- 
> Allan Fish
> Greenwood, IN
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[VFB] Re: Fw: [VFB] Re: BUG SWAP IMPORTANT PLEASE READ!

[boosbooksandbargains]

I THINK I got that date right LOL, Chuck

- Original Message - 
From: "Allan Fish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Virtual Flybox" 
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 8:54 PM
Subject: [VFB] Re: Fw: [VFB] Re: BUG SWAP IMPORTANT PLEASE READ!


>
>>OFFLIST... Man, you tie good flies. I wish you'd stay in. He's
>>giving  us till the end of January...That's a lot of healing time
>>ain't it???  Chuck
>
> Oh...I thought it was the end of November.
>
> Dadburnit Chuck, Flattery will get you anything.
>
> BOB - I'M BACK IN IF YOU'LL LET ME!  SORRY FOR THE SAD SOB STORY
>
> I just tied two simple flies (Adams - size 12).  It took me overe 45 
> minutes.
>
> But I can surely do one every 3 days and get done in 3 months!
>
> Allan
> Who scans mail instead of reading it.  :-(
> -- 
> Allan Fish
> Greenwood, IN
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[VFB] Re: Urgent Prayer Request

[boosbooksandbargains]

I see.. Yeah, I have been on lists like that, and not only is it not fun, it 
gets hard to follow because sometimes the moderator approves messages out of 
order and it jumbles up the flow of the messages, Chuck

- Original Message - 
From: "Allan Fish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 7:19 PM
Subject: [VFB] Urgent Prayer Request


>
> Chuck, I would NOT want things censored.
>
> That was a statement of fact, not a wish.
>
> I was on a list for a short time a few years ago where the moderator
> read every post and then decided whether or not to post it.
>
> Did you notice I said, "For a short time"?
>
> Allan
>
>>Allan: why would you want it censored??? Chuck
>>
>>- Original Message -
>>From: "Allan Fish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: 
>>Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 4:07 PM
>>Subject: [VFB] Urgent Prayer Request
>>
>>
>>>
   Is this group moderated???
>>>
>>>  Good question, Jay.
>>>
>>>  Nothing is "censored" before being posted (except maybe my posts).
>>>
>>>  It used to be moderated, but I'm not sure it is any more.
>>>
>>>
>>>  a.
>>>  --
>>>  Allan Fish
>>>  Greenwood, IN
>>>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>
>>>  >
>>
>>
>>
>
> -- 
> Allan Fish
> Greenwood, IN
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[VFB] Re: for fly fishing/tying discussion only - DUH !

[boosbooksandbargains]

Bill: I asked the group to pray for my wife during her recent total knee 
replacement, and it (the prayers) worked. She came through it with flying 
colors..But, how does that make this a prayer group??? To make it fishing 
related, my wife loves to fly fish as much as I do, but, her knees had gotten 
so bad that she couldn't fish anymore. Man, if you have a problem with that, I 
feel sorry for ya. I don't know about you, but I cannot, and will not be a 
ROBOT..On the reverse of what you said, the day we get to where we cannot ask 
for prayer for reach other etc, is the day I'll say adios forever.. Chuck
  - Original Message - 
  From: Bill and Tina 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 6:49 PM
  Subject: [VFB] Re: for fly fishing/tying discussion only - DUH !


  I agree Jay and everyone else Fly Fishing and Tying is why I joined the list 
not prayer groups or political rantings. I’ve been a member for over 8 years 
and I do not participate much anymore because of all discussions of other 
subjects I don’t come to the list for birthday updates, prayer lists, sport 
team discussions etc. 

   

  I joined for Fly Fishing Stuff so if this is a prayer list I’ll have to say 
bye.

   

  Bill


--

  From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jimmy 
D. Moore
  Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 3:58 PM
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
  Subject: [VFB] Re: for fly fishing/tying discussion only - DUH !

   

  I've been a member of the VFB for 10 + years. And . . . .we've always treated 
each other as family, including births, deaths, birthdays and other info that 
friends pass along to each other. I said it once before when I was the 
MODERATOR of this list and I'll say it again. All work and no play makes for a 
miserable exixtence. Likewise, Posts limited strictly to fly fishing / tying 
makes for a very dull list.  Dull lists are ones that lose membership. We gain 
a few members and we lose a few members.  Nothing wrong with that!  I for one 
welcome a little "banter" among members and also short family updates.  Hey, 
don't tell a grandpaw that he can't let the list know he's just become a 
grandfather.

  Nuff Said ?!?!?!

  JIMMY D. MOORE
  VFB Moderator Emeritus

  P.S. You migh not see many posts from our list owner, Byard Miller, but I 
garon-damn-tee you that Byard is aware of what transpires on this list. 

  J Paulson wrote:



We must stop this discussion right now. I'm sure the only view we *all* share 
is that we want to talk about flyfishing. The other stuff does not belong and 
nothing drives members away quicker. Is this group moderated??? Jay - 
Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: 
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 12:43 PMSubject: 
[VFB] Re: Urgent Prayer RequestJeff: I hear ya.. And I'm glad your son, and 
others like him fight the badguys over there, so we don't have to fight them 
HERE, Chuck - Original Message - From: "Jeff Frye" <[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]>To: Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 
10:04 AMSubject: [VFB] Re: Urgent Prayer Request  Bill, that is one of the 
most intellectually dishonest posts ever on thislist. You state your leftist 
position and then tell everybody to keep itabout fishing and then apologize for 
the rant. The alternative would be tonot hit the send button. On a more topic 
related note, I have some pics of my son and his Armybuddies fishing one of the 
palace ponds in Baghdad. I also have a coolphoto of him following through on a 
golf shot hit from one of the stoneportals of the same palace. It was shot from 
behind to make him asilhouette with that pond in the distance. Thanks to 
everyone that does what they can to keep troop morale high.  --- On Thu, 
10/23/08, Bill and Tina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   From: Bill and Tina 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: [VFB] Re: Urgent Prayer RequestTo: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]: Thursday, October 23, 2008, 9:41 AMJimi, Will do. Our people need 
our help. BUT that solder shouldn't have even been in thisillegal war we 
areconducting in Iraq. I blame our MIS-leaders. Everyoneshould be flaming 
ourcongress to get our boys home. That is what will HELP thesesolders. This is 
the last time responding to such a post... This hasNOTHING to dowith fly 
fishing or tying and is honestly why I don'tparticipate in thislist much 
anymore. Start a prayer list! Or better yet startan Anti-WAR listand I will 
post all over the thing. I'm SICK of whatOUR country is doing!And I'm sick of 
these "support our troops"stickers on cars. Our country isgoing to hell and we 
can afford to pay for this war oncredit? Arrggg...honestly I've got to stop now 
or I'll say stuffthat will hurt people'sfeelings. Let's keep this list on the 
subject of FLY FISHING andTYING. Besides youdon't know what God somebody will 
be praying to...could be the wrong guy. Sorry about the rant.Bill -Original 

[VFB] Re: for fly fishing/tying discussion only - DUH !

[boosbooksandbargains]

Amen to this, Chuck

  - Original Message - 
  From: Jimmy D. Moore 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 5:57 PM
  Subject: [VFB] Re: for fly fishing/tying discussion only - DUH !


  I've been a member of the VFB for 10 + years. And . . . .we've always treated 
each other as family, including births, deaths, birthdays and other info that 
friends pass along to each other. I said it once before when I was the 
MODERATOR of this list and I'll say it again. All work and no play makes for a 
miserable exixtence. Likewise, Posts limited strictly to fly fishing / tying 
makes for a very dull list.  Dull lists are ones that lose membership. We gain 
a few members and we lose a few members.  Nothing wrong with that!  I for one 
welcome a little "banter" among members and also short family updates.  Hey, 
don't tell a grandpaw that he can't let the list know he's just become a 
grandfather.

  Nuff Said ?!?!?!

  JIMMY D. MOORE
  VFB Moderator Emeritus

  P.S. You migh not see many posts from our list owner, Byard Miller, but I 
garon-damn-tee you that Byard is aware of what transpires on this list. 

  J Paulson wrote:

We must stop this discussion right now. I'm sure the only view we *all* 
share is that we want to talk about flyfishing. The other stuff does not 
belong and nothing drives members away quicker. Is this group moderated???

Jay

- Original Message - 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 12:43 PM
Subject: [VFB] Re: Urgent Prayer Request


  Jeff: I hear ya.. And I'm glad your son, and others like him fight the bad
guys over there, so we don't have to fight them HERE, Chuck

- Original Message - 
From: "Jeff Frye" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 10:04 AM
Subject: [VFB] Re: Urgent Prayer Request


Bill, that is one of the most intellectually dishonest posts ever on this
list. You state your leftist position and then tell everybody to keep it
about fishing and then apologize for the rant. The alternative would be 
to
not hit the send button.

On a more topic related note, I have some pics of my son and his Army
buddies fishing one of the palace ponds in Baghdad. I also have a cool
photo of him following through on a golf shot hit from one of the stone
portals of the same palace. It was shot from behind to make him a
silhouette with that pond in the distance.

Thanks to everyone that does what they can to keep troop morale high.


--- On Thu, 10/23/08, Bill and Tina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  From: Bill and Tina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [VFB] Re: Urgent Prayer Request
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, October 23, 2008, 9:41 AM
Jimi, Will do. Our people need our help.

BUT that solder shouldn't have even been in this
illegal war we are
conducting in Iraq. I blame our MIS-leaders. Everyone
should be flaming our
congress to get our boys home. That is what will HELP these
solders.

This is the last time responding to such a post... This has
NOTHING to do
with fly fishing or tying and is honestly why I don't
participate in this
list much anymore. Start a prayer list! Or better yet start
an Anti-WAR list
and I will post all over the thing. I'm SICK of what
OUR country is doing!
And I'm sick of these "support our troops"
stickers on cars. Our country is
going to hell and we can afford to pay for this war on
credit? Arrggg...
honestly I've got to stop now or I'll say stuff
that will hurt people's
feelings.

Let's keep this list on the subject of FLY FISHING and
TYING. Besides you
don't know what God somebody will be praying to...
could be the wrong guy.

Sorry about the rant.
Bill

-Original Message-
From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Dail Graham
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 8:58 AM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: [VFB] Re: Urgent Prayer Request


Jim-My prayer is for a successful surgery and rapid
recovery for Sgt Martin.

His sacrifice for us is greatly appreciated.  Dail Graham
US Army retired
- Original Message - 
From: "Desert Eagle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Desert Eagle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 11:09 PM
Subject: [VFB] Urgent Prayer Request


Folks, I have an Urgent Prayer Request for EVERYONE.
  Sgt Anson Martin is
returning to the states for surgery on his shoulder.
  This young man has
been a pen pal of mine and a major contact in country
  in Iraq. We all know
that if it was not a serious situation he would not be
  medivaced back to
the
states.

Being the Hero that he is, he is playing it off as a
  no brainier. Please,
keep this young man, his wife and kids, Mother and
  Father all in your
prayers. For a quick recovery, travel blessings for
  him, and his parents
as
they head down to check on their son.

Sgt. Martin is the one who has put me in contact with
 

[VFB] Re: Urgent Prayer Request

[boosbooksandbargains]

Allan: why would you want it censored??? Chuck

- Original Message - 
From: "Allan Fish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 4:07 PM
Subject: [VFB] Urgent Prayer Request


>
>>  Is this group moderated???
>
> Good question, Jay.
>
> Nothing is "censored" before being posted (except maybe my posts).
>
> It used to be moderated, but I'm not sure it is any more.
>
>
> a.
> -- 
> Allan Fish
> Greenwood, IN
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> > 


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[VFB] Re: BUG SWAP IMPORTANT PLEASE READ!

[boosbooksandbargains]

  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: VFB 
  Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 2:03 PM
  Subject: [VFB] BUG SWAP IMPORTANT PLEASE READ!


  First off I am expanding the swap to a total of 15.  If this is a promblem 
please remove yourslf from the list.  Also make sure your name is on the list.  
You must sign up on this post to be included!
  Please include the material you will use in your fly.  You will also be 
required to tye with some of the other materials members have selected. 

  1. Bob Haering -- HOST -- foam open or closed cell. 
  2. John Bennett - CDC 
  3. Allan Fish -- marabou 
  4. J Balmer - Gold Pheasant 
  5. Jimi, --Chartreuse Grizzly Hackle 
  6. Dail Grahm -- Turkey or Goose Biots
   7. Jerry McKaughan  -- ???
   8. Rene -- Natural Raffia
   9. Chuck Alexander- Stripped Hackle Quills 
  10. 
  11.
  12.
  13.
  14.
  15.
   
  Thanks 
  BobH 


  


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[VFB] Re: Urgent Prayer Request

[boosbooksandbargains]

Jeff: I hear ya.. And I'm glad your son, and others like him fight the bad 
guys over there, so we don't have to fight them HERE, Chuck

- Original Message - 
From: "Jeff Frye" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 10:04 AM
Subject: [VFB] Re: Urgent Prayer Request


>
> Bill, that is one of the most intellectually dishonest posts ever on this 
> list. You state your leftist position and then tell everybody to keep it 
> about fishing and then apologize for the rant. The alternative would be to 
> not hit the send button.
>
> On a more topic related note, I have some pics of my son and his Army 
> buddies fishing one of the palace ponds in Baghdad. I also have a cool 
> photo of him following through on a golf shot hit from one of the stone 
> portals of the same palace. It was shot from behind to make him a 
> silhouette with that pond in the distance.
>
> Thanks to everyone that does what they can to keep troop morale high.
>
>
> --- On Thu, 10/23/08, Bill and Tina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> From: Bill and Tina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: [VFB] Re: Urgent Prayer Request
>> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
>> Date: Thursday, October 23, 2008, 9:41 AM
>> Jimi, Will do. Our people need our help.
>>
>> BUT that solder shouldn't have even been in this
>> illegal war we are
>> conducting in Iraq. I blame our MIS-leaders. Everyone
>> should be flaming our
>> congress to get our boys home. That is what will HELP these
>> solders.
>>
>> This is the last time responding to such a post... This has
>> NOTHING to do
>> with fly fishing or tying and is honestly why I don't
>> participate in this
>> list much anymore. Start a prayer list! Or better yet start
>> an Anti-WAR list
>> and I will post all over the thing. I'm SICK of what
>> OUR country is doing!
>> And I'm sick of these "support our troops"
>> stickers on cars. Our country is
>> going to hell and we can afford to pay for this war on
>> credit? Arrggg...
>> honestly I've got to stop now or I'll say stuff
>> that will hurt people's
>> feelings.
>>
>> Let's keep this list on the subject of FLY FISHING and
>> TYING. Besides you
>> don't know what God somebody will be praying to...
>> could be the wrong guy.
>>
>> Sorry about the rant.
>> Bill
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
>> Of Dail Graham
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 8:58 AM
>> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: [VFB] Re: Urgent Prayer Request
>>
>>
>> Jim-My prayer is for a successful surgery and rapid
>> recovery for Sgt Martin.
>>
>> His sacrifice for us is greatly appreciated.  Dail Graham
>> US Army retired
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Desert Eagle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "Desert Eagle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 11:09 PM
>> Subject: [VFB] Urgent Prayer Request
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Folks, I have an Urgent Prayer Request for EVERYONE.
>> Sgt Anson Martin is
>> > returning to the states for surgery on his shoulder.
>> This young man has
>> > been a pen pal of mine and a major contact in country
>> in Iraq. We all know
>> > that if it was not a serious situation he would not be
>> medivaced back to
>> > the
>> > states.
>> >
>> > Being the Hero that he is, he is playing it off as a
>> no brainier. Please,
>> > keep this young man, his wife and kids, Mother and
>> Father all in your
>> > prayers. For a quick recovery, travel blessings for
>> him, and his parents
>> > as
>> > they head down to check on their son.
>> >
>> > Sgt. Martin is the one who has put me in contact with
>> a Sgt. in country in
>> > Afghanistan for CFOT. And he is the one who has been
>> keeping me updated on
>> > arrivals and troops in country in Iraq. Please ask God
>> for special
>> > blessings
>> > for him, his family, and those he has left in country
>> whom he cares for so
>> > much.
>> >
>> > His heart is bigger than the entire South West.
>> > Thanks,
>> > Jimi
>> > USCG ITWPATWT 100% Vet
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > >
>> >
>> > -- 
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[VFB] Re: NEW SWAP BUGS -- UPDATED -- 6:15 AM 10/22/2008 NEED A FEW MORE TYERS

[boosbooksandbargains]

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  Subject: [VFB] NEW SWAP BUGS -- UPDATED -- 6:15 AM 10/22/2008 NEED A FEW MORE 
TYERS


  We need just 4 more tyers people, this is going to be fun!

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> Great the interest is there!! Total of 10 (ten tyers) so 9 (nine) are 
> needed. As an added twist, when you sign up add a material.! So.. Add 
your 
> name to the list and the material you would like to see used. The 
maaterial 
> you pick YOU MUST USE! For the due date I am thinking the end of Jan. 
> If you expressed interest to my first post please make sure you sign up! 
> 
> 1. Bob Haering -- HOST -- foam open or closed cell. 
> 2. John Bennett - CDC 
> 3. Allan Fish -- marabou 
> 4. J Balmer - Gold Pheasant 
> 5. Jimi, --Chartreuse Grizzly Hackle 
> 6. Dail Grahm -- Turkey or Goose Biots
> 7. Chuck Alexander- Peacock herl
> 8. 
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> Thanks 
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[VFB] Re: nay one interested -- Bug Swap

[boosbooksandbargains]

Bob: I might be in if you give us plenty of time to tie as my tying time is 
limited right now,. but I do miss tying a LOT, Chuck

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  Subject: [VFB] nay one interested -- Bug Swap


  Hey guys,
 Thinking of hosting a bug swap.  to make it interesting I will come up 
with a list of materials to be used.  Your fly must use a certain percentage of 
these materials.  Anyone game?

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[VFB] Re: [flyfishingandflytyingforpanfish] We're home from my wife's surgery

[boosbooksandbargains]

John: Thanks.. We're waiting on the rehab nurse to get here right now, but I 
have been helping my wife with her exercises four times a day since her 
surgery. Chuck

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  Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 9:32 AM
  Subject: [VFB] RE: [flyfishingandflytyingforpanfish] We're home from my 
wife's surgery


  I’m glad to hear that everything went well. Good luck on the recovery. 

   

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  Subject: [flyfishingandflytyingforpanfish] We're home from my wife's surgery

   

  Folks: I brought my wife home from the hospital late this afternoon. Surgery 
went great. Imagine them being able to replace a knee in just 56 minutes.  
Anyway, so far, so good. She is in a lot of pain, which is to be expected with 
a 13 inch incision down the front of her left knee..But other than that, she is 
walking with a walker, and is able to bear all the weight she can handle on 
that leg already.. Thanks to all for the thoughts and prayers. Please keep them 
coming because now begins the long and painful rehab she'll have to go 
through.. Thanks again, Chuck

   

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[VFB] Thanks a million

[boosbooksandbargains]

I'd like to say "Thank's a million for all the well wishes, thoughts and 
prayers for my wife, myself and my family during this trying time for us. She's 
doing exceptionally well for only 4 days out of this major surgery. She's doing 
all her exercises, letting me give her the two blood thinner shots per day, and 
is getting around much better than I thought she would be at this point. Thanks 
again. Chuck, Billie, and Family
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[VFB] We're home from my wife's surgery

[boosbooksandbargains]

Folks: I brought my wife home from the hospital late this afternoon. Surgery 
went great. Imagine them being able to replace a knee in just 56 minutes.  
Anyway, so far, so good. She is in a lot of pain, which is to be expected with 
a 13 inch incision down the front of her left knee..But other than that, she is 
walking with a walker, and is able to bear all the weight she can handle on 
that leg already.. Thanks to all for the thoughts and prayers. Please keep them 
coming because now begins the long and painful rehab she'll have to go 
through.. Thanks again, Chuck

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[VFB] Re: Popper help needed

[boosbooksandbargains]

Wes: Just a cpl quick answers as I'm heading out the door to take my wife to 
the hospital. You can google this but I use foam, spun deer hair and my 
favorite, balsa wood (bought at Hobby Lobby, Michaels etc) for the bodies..I 
use rubber legs through the sides, and either rubber legs, hair, and/or marabou 
for the tails. I glue on doll eyes most of the time. On fishing them, cast them 
out. When they hit, leave it alone till all the ripples stop. Most ppl start 
working the popper tooo soon after it has landed on the water. You'll usually 
get a hit right when you think it has been in the water too long. After all 
ripples have died down, give it a 6-12 inch strip/twitch, then let it sit, 
again, till the ripples disappear. Keep doing this till you get a hit. I try to 
cast them UNDER over hanging trees and bushes, or around cover like lily pads, 
fallen trees etc. On color, even if I paint the popper black, i paint the 
"face" of the poppers white or yellow so I can see it at all times. Color is up 
to the fish, but I use light colors in clear water, and dark colors on dark or 
stained waters.. HTH, Chuck

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  From: Wes Wada 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 10:58 PM
  Subject: [VFB] Popper help needed


  Hi VFB,

  I am getting curious about fly rod poppers, used for trout fishing.  For that 
purpose, I would like to tie a number of small poppers.  Since that is not my 
normal mode of fishing, I am wondering if any of you who use poppers 
extensively have strong feelings about how a popper should be designed?(shape, 
balance, materials, colors, whatever?)

  Are there any good web site references to making poppers?  

  Any coaching on how to effectively fish a popper?


  Thanks,
  Wes Wada
  Bend, Oregon




  


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[VFB] Re: School color swap, John B

[boosbooksandbargains]

John: I was just gonna say. My wife says that I can't take my "portable" 
tying station with Me and I told her about you LOL.. She said "I think you 
can do without tying for 4-5 days and it won't kill ya. I said "It might?" 
LOL< Chuck

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Subject: [VFB] Re: School color swap, John B



Background on this fly. I tied the set at the hospital while my wife was in 
labor with our new baby. She had to be started so she was in labor 
throughout the night. With the drugs she was given for the pain, it gave me 
time to catch up on my tying.

Chuck, take a travel kit to the hospital with you. It helped me pass the 
time while my wife was sleeping.

 John Bennett
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From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
Of Desert Eagle
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 4:09 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: [VFB] Re: School color swap, John B


Excuse me John, But I like your Utah Utes Mayfly. In fact I tied a couple of
them to try on my "Secret Creek on the green sunfish. Will let you know how
it works.
Jimi
USCG ITWPATWT 100% Vet



I received a great package of flies in the mail over the weekend. They all
came from talented people, except mine.

 John Bennett
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[VFB] Re: Thoughts and prayers needed

[boosbooksandbargains]

Jared Thanks a lot, Chuck

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  Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 5:42 PM
  Subject: [VFB] Re: Thoughts and prayers needed


  Best of luck with everything, friend! I'm sending positive wavelengths your 
way





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  Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 15:48:41 -0500


  Folks: We have to leave real early tomorrow to be at the hospital by 9am as 
my wife is having knee replacement surgery.. I'll be off line for several days 
as I'll be staying over there with her, but will let everybody know something 
ASAP.. Thanks a lot, Chuck






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[VFB] Re: Thoughts and prayers needed

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Thanks a lot Jimi, Chuck

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>
> Done my friend, keep us posted.
> Jimi
> USCG ITWPATWT 100% Vet
>
>
> Folks: We have to leave real early tomorrow to be at the hospital by 9am 
> as
> my wife is having knee replacement surgery.. I'll be off line for several
> days as I'll be staying over there with her, but will let everybody know
> something ASAP.. Thanks a lot, Chuck
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[VFB] Re: Numbers Question

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There are 185 total members http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en 
I'd think there are about 25-30 regular posters, but I could be wrong, Chuck

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> I am playing with a crazy Idea, and need to know something. Does anyone 
> know
> just how many members the VFB group has? About how many are active, IE. 
> post
> at least once a month?
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[VFB] Re: Thoughts and prayers needed

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Dail: Thanks a lot..We HOPE to be home Friday..They can really do these things 
fast these days. The doc says he can do the whole surgery in ONE HOUR.. 
Unbelievable,. But I'm glad cause I have always been the one getting operated 
on, not her. And the hours go by like days waiting on somebody I'm sure.. Chuck

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  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com ; fly fishing for panfish 
  Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 4:37 PM
  Subject: [VFB] Re: Thoughts and prayers needed


  Chuck-  Keep the faith as she will do well.  See you back on line soon.  Dail 
Graham
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Subject: [VFB] Thoughts and prayers needed


Folks: We have to leave real early tomorrow to be at the hospital by 9am as 
my wife is having knee replacement surgery.. I'll be off line for several days 
as I'll be staying over there with her, but will let everybody know something 
ASAP.. Thanks a lot, Chuck








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[VFB] Thoughts and prayers needed

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wife is having knee replacement surgery.. I'll be off line for several days as 
I'll be staying over there with her, but will let everybody know something 
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