RE: [VFB] Thoughts and prayers needed

[Chuck Alexander]

Nev: Thanks a lot, Chuck

 

From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Neville Gosling
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 6:35 PM
To: VFB 
Subject: Re: [VFB] Thoughts and prayers needed

 

Such destruction is devastating for anyone, and as you said, things will not be 
normal for a long time. It is a real concern for anyone who has family in the 
hard hit storm areas. I believe that unless we take global warming as a very 
real and imminent problem, storms like this will become more frequent. This 
summer in British Columbia we experienced the worst ever year for forest fires 
beating last year’s record and like California a lot of homes and properties 
were burned to the foundations. with the tress gone, and extremely dry 
conditions, the new danger is landslides due to local violent rainstorms. One 
woman is still missing and presumed dead when a landslide took the car she was 
driving and presumably buried it. The forest fires are usually caused by 
lightning strikes.

Will keep your family in our thoughts and prayers.

 

Neville (Nev) Gosling

British Columbia

Canada

 

 

On Oct 13, 2018, at 16:02, Chuck Alexander mailto:chuckalexan...@centurylink.net> > wrote:

 

Folks: We have a daughter in law and grandson as well as a niece and her kids 
that we knew made out alive as the Nat’l guard/Red Cross let each family call 
their families to tell them they survived via sat phone the other day. However, 
they all lost their houses. They got to go check on their houses this morning 
(couldn’t go earlier as their were live wires, gators, poisonous snakes, boards 
with nails in them etc and ALL their houses were GONE, PERIOD. All that was 
left was the foundations This taught us all a valuable lesson. You know how the 
weather ppl tell you that if you live in a mobile home, that you need to get 
out and stay out till it’s safe to return. What is taught us was this. And we 
know two as we lived in DeFuniak Spgs FL for 25 yrs and got hit by numerous 
tornadoes and hurricanes (most notably Hurricane Opal in about ’95 or ’96 I 
think. It caught us off guard and all of our kids were still living at home and 
it was supposed to hit at less than 100mph, then be much less than that 45 
miles or so inland which is where we lived. Anyway, during the night it gained 
speed and hit us at 135+ mph for 8+ hours. All we could do is lay on the floor, 
and turn the mattresses over and get under them. Course back then dopplar radar 
wasn’t as good as it is now. Anyway, I said all that to say this.

You get a direct hit by a tornado or a hurricane, you need to get out if at all 
possible because our grandson and daughter in law lived in a mobile home and 
the nieces and nephews lived in a site built house and they were both 
destroyed. You can click on the link I have provided below taken from space via 
the NOAA weather service and see the mobile home park  our daughter in law and 
grandson lived  in. Open the link and type in the search bar 1128 S. Gay Ave, 
Panama City FL 32404 United States and zoom in. See how the mobile homes (or 
what’s left of them) are at a diagonal setting right?? Before Hurricane they 
were in STRAIGHT rows.

Anyway, getting to the point of the email. Please keep our family members (and 
anybody who lost their home)  in your thoughts and prayers as “normal” is going 
to be a long way down the road. I don’t know about the nieces and nephews, but 
our grandson and daughter in law have been wanting to move u here for a while. 
So, I guess that “soon” will be NOW. They are staying at our daughter in laws 
mother in the mean  time until she settles up with the insurance company, tries 
to fine anything at all in that debris pile etc. Thanks a lot, Chuck

 

 <https://storms.ngs.noaa.gov/storms/michael/index.html#12/30.1392/-85.6810> 
https://storms.ngs.noaa.gov/storms/michael/index.html#12/30.1392/-85.6810

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: [VFB] Thoughts and prayers needed

[Neville Gosling]

Such destruction is devastating for anyone, and as you said, things will not be 
normal for a long time. It is a real concern for anyone who has family in the 
hard hit storm areas. I believe that unless we take global warming as a very 
real and imminent problem, storms like this will become more frequent. This 
summer in British Columbia we experienced the worst ever year for forest fires 
beating last year’s record and like California a lot of homes and properties 
were burned to the foundations. with the tress gone, and extremely dry 
conditions, the new danger is landslides due to local violent rainstorms. One 
woman is still missing and presumed dead when a landslide took the car she was 
driving and presumably buried it. The forest fires are usually caused by 
lightning strikes.

Will keep your family in our thoughts and prayers.

 

Neville (Nev) Gosling

British Columbia

Canada



On Oct 13, 2018, at 16:02, Chuck Alexander  
wrote:

Folks: We have a daughter in law and grandson as well as a niece and her kids 
that we knew made out alive as the Nat’l guard/Red Cross let each family call 
their families to tell them they survived via sat phone the other day. However, 
they all lost their houses. They got to go check on their houses this morning 
(couldn’t go earlier as their were live wires, gators, poisonous snakes, boards 
with nails in them etc and ALL their houses were GONE, PERIOD. All that was 
left was the foundations This taught us all a valuable lesson. You know how the 
weather ppl tell you that if you live in a mobile home, that you need to get 
out and stay out till it’s safe to return. What is taught us was this. And we 
know two as we lived in DeFuniak Spgs FL for 25 yrs and got hit by numerous 
tornadoes and hurricanes (most notably Hurricane Opal in about ’95 or ’96 I 
think. It caught us off guard and all of our kids were still living at home and 
it was supposed to hit at less than 100mph, then be much less than that 45 
miles or so inland which is where we lived. Anyway, during the night it gained 
speed and hit us at 135+ mph for 8+ hours. All we could do is lay on the floor, 
and turn the mattresses over and get under them. Course back then dopplar radar 
wasn’t as good as it is now. Anyway, I said all that to say this.
You get a direct hit by a tornado or a hurricane, you need to get out if at all 
possible because our grandson and daughter in law lived in a mobile home and 
the nieces and nephews lived in a site built house and they were both 
destroyed. You can click on the link I have provided below taken from space via 
the NOAA weather service and see the mobile home park  our daughter in law and 
grandson lived  in. Open the link and type in the search bar 1128 S. Gay Ave, 
Panama City FL 32404 United States and zoom in. See how the mobile homes (or 
what’s left of them) are at a diagonal setting right?? Before Hurricane they 
were in STRAIGHT rows.
Anyway, getting to the point of the email. Please keep our family members (and 
anybody who lost their home)  in your thoughts and prayers as “normal” is going 
to be a long way down the road. I don’t know about the nieces and nephews, but 
our grandson and daughter in law have been wanting to move u here for a while. 
So, I guess that “soon” will be NOW. They are staying at our daughter in laws 
mother in the mean  time until she settles up with the insurance company, tries 
to fine anything at all in that debris pile etc. Thanks a lot, Chuck

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[VFB] Thoughts and prayers needed

[Chuck Alexander]

Folks: We have a daughter in law and grandson as well as a niece and her
kids that we knew made out alive as the Nat'l guard/Red Cross let each
family call their families to tell them they survived via sat phone the
other day. However, they all lost their houses. They got to go check on
their houses this morning (couldn't go earlier as their were live wires,
gators, poisonous snakes, boards with nails in them etc and ALL their houses
were GONE, PERIOD. All that was left was the foundations This taught us all
a valuable lesson. You know how the weather ppl tell you that if you live in
a mobile home, that you need to get out and stay out till it's safe to
return. What is taught us was this. And we know two as we lived in DeFuniak
Spgs FL for 25 yrs and got hit by numerous tornadoes and hurricanes (most
notably Hurricane Opal in about '95 or '96 I think. It caught us off guard
and all of our kids were still living at home and it was supposed to hit at
less than 100mph, then be much less than that 45 miles or so inland which is
where we lived. Anyway, during the night it gained speed and hit us at 135+
mph for 8+ hours. All we could do is lay on the floor, and turn the
mattresses over and get under them. Course back then dopplar radar wasn't as
good as it is now. Anyway, I said all that to say this.

You get a direct hit by a tornado or a hurricane, you need to get out if at
all possible because our grandson and daughter in law lived in a mobile home
and the nieces and nephews lived in a site built house and they were both
destroyed. You can click on the link I have provided below taken from space
via the NOAA weather service and see the mobile home park  our daughter in
law and grandson lived  in. Open the link and type in the search bar 1128 S.
Gay Ave, Panama City FL 32404 United States and zoom in. See how the mobile
homes (or what's left of them) are at a diagonal setting right?? Before
Hurricane they were in STRAIGHT rows.

Anyway, getting to the point of the email. Please keep our family members
(and anybody who lost their home)  in your thoughts and prayers as "normal"
is going to be a long way down the road. I don't know about the nieces and
nephews, but our grandson and daughter in law have been wanting to move u
here for a while. So, I guess that "soon" will be NOW. They are staying at
our daughter in laws mother in the mean  time until she settles up with the
insurance company, tries to fine anything at all in that debris pile etc.
Thanks a lot, Chuck


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Re: [VFB] Thoughts and prayers needed

[Donna Crowell]

Chuck.

One is never prepared for a loss of a loved one .  Sorry about your loss.


  Donna.



On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 8:43 AM, Gary Webb glwranger...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sorry for your great loss.  Favorite uncles and aunts are great blessings
 to have.  Prayers for you and your family



 On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 9:59 PM, Chuck Alexander 
 chuckalexan...@centurylink.net wrote:

 Folks: Below is a note I just sent to a friend about my Uncle Grady who
 passed away this morning. Please keep my Aunt Ann, his two daughters and
 three sons in your prayers especially. The whole family actually as Grady
 was like the patriark of the family and was/is beloved  dearly by the whole
 family. He fought the good fight, but as 2 Corinthians 5:8 says he’s now
 “Absent from the body, but present with the Lord” Thanks, Chuck

 “On a sad note, one of  my Uncles died early this morning. He was my
 favorite Uncle in fact. My Aunt is devastated of course, (She is a twin to
 my Aunt Jan, but we were raised more as brother and Sister as they are only
 4 yrs older than I am) and even though Grady was my Uncle by marriage, he’s
 been married to my aunt Ann for about 38 yrs or more. We have to go to East
 GA right near Atlanta in Douglassville for the viewing tomorrow night and
 the funeral is Monday at 1 pm.

 Grady had had prostate cancer and it had come back. Then, he fell last
 week and had to have surgery on his shoulder and had two broken ribs as
 well as a cpl other pretty  bad bangs and they think he may have thrown a
 blood clot from the shoulder surgery, or that his body was just so drug
 out from all the cancer treatment that his body just couldn’t take it.
 Either way, he’s no longer in the severe pain he’s been in for the past yr
 or two. Chuck”


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Re: [VFB] Thoughts and prayers needed

[Gary Webb]

Sorry for your great loss.  Favorite uncles and aunts are great blessings
to have.  Prayers for you and your family


On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 9:59 PM, Chuck Alexander 
chuckalexan...@centurylink.net wrote:

 Folks: Below is a note I just sent to a friend about my Uncle Grady who
 passed away this morning. Please keep my Aunt Ann, his two daughters and
 three sons in your prayers especially. The whole family actually as Grady
 was like the patriark of the family and was/is beloved  dearly by the whole
 family. He fought the good fight, but as 2 Corinthians 5:8 says he’s now
 “Absent from the body, but present with the Lord” Thanks, Chuck

 “On a sad note, one of  my Uncles died early this morning. He was my
 favorite Uncle in fact. My Aunt is devastated of course, (She is a twin to
 my Aunt Jan, but we were raised more as brother and Sister as they are only
 4 yrs older than I am) and even though Grady was my Uncle by marriage, he’s
 been married to my aunt Ann for about 38 yrs or more. We have to go to East
 GA right near Atlanta in Douglassville for the viewing tomorrow night and
 the funeral is Monday at 1 pm.

 Grady had had prostate cancer and it had come back. Then, he fell last
 week and had to have surgery on his shoulder and had two broken ribs as
 well as a cpl other pretty  bad bangs and they think he may have thrown a
 blood clot from the shoulder surgery, or that his body was just so drug
 out from all the cancer treatment that his body just couldn’t take it.
 Either way, he’s no longer in the severe pain he’s been in for the past yr
 or two. Chuck”


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[VFB] Thoughts and prayers needed

[Chuck Alexander]

Folks: Below is a note I just sent to a friend about my Uncle Grady who passed 
away this morning. Please keep my Aunt Ann, his two daughters and three sons in 
your prayers especially. The whole family actually as Grady was like the 
patriark of the family and was/is beloved  dearly by the whole family. He 
fought the good fight, but as 2 Corinthians 5:8 says he’s now “Absent from the 
body, but present with the Lord” Thanks, Chuck

“On a sad note, one of  my Uncles died early this morning. He was my favorite 
Uncle in fact. My Aunt is devastated of course, (She is a twin to my Aunt Jan, 
but we were raised more as brother and Sister as they are only 4 yrs older than 
I am) and even though Grady was my Uncle by marriage, he’s been married to my 
aunt Ann for about 38 yrs or more. We have to go to East GA right near Atlanta 
in Douglassville for the viewing tomorrow night and the funeral is Monday at 1 
pm. 

Grady had had prostate cancer and it had come back. Then, he fell last week and 
had to have surgery on his shoulder and had two broken ribs as well as a cpl 
other pretty  bad bangs and they think he may have thrown a blood clot from the 
shoulder surgery, or that his body was just so drug out from all the cancer 
treatment that his body just couldn’t take it. Either way, he’s no longer in 
the severe pain he’s been in for the past yr or two. Chuck”

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Re: [VFB] Thoughts and prayers needed

[Chuck Alexander]

Gary: I will be sure and ask him to send me to a neuro guy too. Thanks, Chuck

From: Gary Webb 
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 7:03 AM
To: vfb-mail 
Subject: Re: [VFB] Thoughts and prayers needed

Chuck we have you covered.   Good advice from your friends here.  I think most 
ortho surgeons would want you to be seen by a neurologist before your 
operation.  In cases like yours it should be a team effort. 

Gary

PS:  I'll be sending my swap  material to you this week.

On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 7:40 PM, Chuck Alexander 
chuckalexan...@centurylink.net wrote:

  Folks: I had to see my doc today about a back condition (6 bulging discs all 
total) I have had for yrs. Last Thursday I put a Reese type hitch on my new  PT 
Cruiser that We took off the old Cruiser one it got wrecked. Anyway, crawling 
around under that car on my back, with the car on ramps and/or jack stands was 
a no no, as when I woke up Friday morning my right leg, from the knee to my 
toes, and my right thumb and index finger were both sound asleep. Not pins and 
nedles, but ASLEEP. But I thought I had just slept wrong, and wiggled my toes 
and digits all day, but the feeling didn’t come back for 30 hours or so and 
when it did, it went from numb, to pins and needles, then to pain, and even 
now, my fingers are all good, but the back of my right calf feels like a mule 
kicked it.

  So, I had to see my doc about it today,and he thinks I might need back 
surgery as he can actually feel a part of my spine that is swollen, and that, 
combined with X-rays, he is referring me to an Ortho doc. He bypassed a 
rheumatologist as he can see arthritis on my spine, but says it’s minor enough 
that he don’t think it’s the problem causing the pain. So, he asked had I ever 
been told I needed surgery and I told him that although I had seen a lot of 
docs about it, I always told then that I did NOT want surgery as I knew a lot 
of ppl who were worse off AFTER back surgery than before, and our pastor;s wife 
in FL had fusion surgery and was bed ridden for six MONTHS. But, those were the 
“bad old days”, and there are commercials on TV now that say they can 
(depending on the problem etc of course) make a 1/2” to 1” incision, and have 
you up and walking a little the next day, what with micro and/or laser surgery 
etc.

  Plus, I’m at the point now with the amt. of pain, that I’ll try anything, or 
it won’t be long till my fishing days are over, as well as exercising not to 
mention AND bending, stooping, lifting, twisting etc. It already hurts like 
crazy to just drive or ride in a car more than about 20 miles. It got so bad 
recently that the yr we were FINALLY planning to come to Sow Bug, we had to 
cancel that plan as I knew my back would not allow a 1,000 round trip 
drive/ride in just a few days. I wouldn’t be able to enjoy it if I did make it. 
Anyway, please keep me in your thoughts and prayers that whatever it has to be, 
whether surgery or whatever, that it will help the problem, and I’ll have a 
speedy recovery as it’s getting old like I said. I just bought both my grand 
daughters new fishing rods and reels, tackle box filled with tackle, and they 
want “Paw Paw” to be able to take them fishing soon as the water warms up a 
little and I surely want to take them too. Because of moving, and my stomach 
problems last yr, it’s been going on four yrs since I was able to have a full 
fishing season’s worth of fishing, and I’m having fishing “withdrawal” symptoms 
here LOL... I can’t even sit in place long enough to tie over about 3 flies at 
a time without having to get up and walk around a little. Thanks a lot, Chuck

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Re: [VFB] Thoughts and prayers needed

[Gary Webb]

Chuck we have you covered.   Good advice from your friends here.  I think
most ortho surgeons would want you to be seen by a neurologist before your
operation.  In cases like yours it should be a team effort.

Gary

PS:  I'll be sending my swap  material to you this week.

On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 7:40 PM, Chuck Alexander 
chuckalexan...@centurylink.net wrote:

   Folks: I had to see my doc today about a back condition (6 bulging
 discs all total) I have had for yrs. Last Thursday I put a Reese type hitch
 on my new  PT Cruiser that We took off the old Cruiser one it got wrecked.
 Anyway, crawling around under that car on my back, with the car on ramps
 and/or jack stands was a no no, as when I woke up Friday morning my right
 leg, from the knee to my toes, and my right thumb and index finger were
 both sound asleep. Not pins and nedles, but ASLEEP. But I thought I had
 just slept wrong, and wiggled my toes and digits all day, but the feeling
 didn’t come back for 30 hours or so and when it did, it went from numb, to
 pins and needles, then to pain, and even now, my fingers are all good, but
 the back of my right calf feels like a mule kicked it.

 So, I had to see my doc about it today,and he thinks I might need back
 surgery as he can actually feel a part of my spine that is swollen, and
 that, combined with X-rays, he is referring me to an Ortho doc. He bypassed
 a rheumatologist as he can see arthritis on my spine, but says it’s minor
 enough that he don’t think it’s the problem causing the pain. So, he asked
 had I ever been told I needed surgery and I told him that although I had
 seen a lot of docs about it, I always told then that I did NOT want surgery
 as I knew a lot of ppl who were worse off AFTER back surgery than before,
 and our pastor;s wife in FL had fusion surgery and was bed ridden for six
 MONTHS. But, those were the “bad old days”, and there are commercials on TV
 now that say they can (depending on the problem etc of course) make a 1/2”
 to 1” incision, and have you up and walking a little the next day, what
 with micro and/or laser surgery etc.

 Plus, I’m at the point now with the amt. of pain, that I’ll try anything,
 or it won’t be long till my fishing days are over, as well as exercising
 not to mention AND bending, stooping, lifting, twisting etc. It already
 hurts like crazy to just drive or ride in a car more than about 20 miles.
 It got so bad recently that the yr we were FINALLY planning to come to Sow
 Bug, we had to cancel that plan as I knew my back would not allow a 1,000
 round trip drive/ride in just a few days. I wouldn’t be able to enjoy it if
 I did make it. Anyway, please keep me in your thoughts and prayers that
 whatever it has to be, whether surgery or whatever, that it will help the
 problem, and I’ll have a speedy recovery as it’s getting old like I said. I
 just bought both my grand daughters new fishing rods and reels, tackle box
 filled with tackle, and they want “Paw Paw” to be able to take them fishing
 soon as the water warms up a little and I surely want to take them too.
 Because of moving, and my stomach problems last yr, it’s been going on four
 yrs since I was able to have a full fishing season’s worth of fishing, and
 I’m having fishing “withdrawal” symptoms here LOL... I can’t even sit in
 place long enough to tie over about 3 flies at a time without having to get
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Re: [VFB] Thoughts and prayers needed

[Chuck Alexander]

Joyce: Thanks for the info. You’re right about the cervical as well as the 
lumbar. I should have clarified, but three of my bad discs are lumbar and three 
are cervical. And I guess carpel tunnel symptoms could come back from scar 
tissue etc, but I had double (both hands) carpel tunnel surgery in 1998. But I 
WILL talk to the doc about the neurologist as well as the ortho doc. You can 
see my BOOK about my experiences to Bob. That just scared me the other day as I 
had had numbness and, burning, and pins and needles down my right side sciatic 
nerve before, but not the “falling asleep” numbness to the point that I tried 
to step out of bed and fell right back down in it. Thanks again, Chuck

From: Joyce M Westphal 
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2015 8:11 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [VFB] Thoughts and prayers needed

It is amazing what our neurologists can do for backs with back surgery..suggest 
that you see both a neurologist and an ortho surgeon and, as suggested already, 
a pain management person.  Often surgery is not required, but when it is, it is 
usually quite successful.  We had 2 back surgeries at our center today, and the 
people both went home this evening already having good feeling in their legs, 
something which was not the case before. Since your  hand was numb, I am 
wondering if you have a cervical as well as a lumbar injury, and it could be 
plain old carpal tunnel disease in your hand.  Please see a neurologist who 
specializes in pain.  Joyce

On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 6:40 PM, Chuck Alexander 
chuckalexan...@centurylink.net wrote:

  Folks: I had to see my doc today about a back condition (6 bulging discs all 
total) I have had for yrs. Last Thursday I put a Reese type hitch on my new  PT 
Cruiser that We took off the old Cruiser one it got wrecked. Anyway, crawling 
around under that car on my back, with the car on ramps and/or jack stands was 
a no no, as when I woke up Friday morning my right leg, from the knee to my 
toes, and my right thumb and index finger were both sound asleep. Not pins and 
nedles, but ASLEEP. But I thought I had just slept wrong, and wiggled my toes 
and digits all day, but the feeling didn’t come back for 30 hours or so and 
when it did, it went from numb, to pins and needles, then to pain, and even 
now, my fingers are all good, but the back of my right calf feels like a mule 
kicked it.

  So, I had to see my doc about it today,and he thinks I might need back 
surgery as he can actually feel a part of my spine that is swollen, and that, 
combined with X-rays, he is referring me to an Ortho doc. He bypassed a 
rheumatologist as he can see arthritis on my spine, but says it’s minor enough 
that he don’t think it’s the problem causing the pain. So, he asked had I ever 
been told I needed surgery and I told him that although I had seen a lot of 
docs about it, I always told then that I did NOT want surgery as I knew a lot 
of ppl who were worse off AFTER back surgery than before, and our pastor;s wife 
in FL had fusion surgery and was bed ridden for six MONTHS. But, those were the 
“bad old days”, and there are commercials on TV now that say they can 
(depending on the problem etc of course) make a 1/2” to 1” incision, and have 
you up and walking a little the next day, what with micro and/or laser surgery 
etc.

  Plus, I’m at the point now with the amt. of pain, that I’ll try anything, or 
it won’t be long till my fishing days are over, as well as exercising not to 
mention AND bending, stooping, lifting, twisting etc. It already hurts like 
crazy to just drive or ride in a car more than about 20 miles. It got so bad 
recently that the yr we were FINALLY planning to come to Sow Bug, we had to 
cancel that plan as I knew my back would not allow a 1,000 round trip 
drive/ride in just a few days. I wouldn’t be able to enjoy it if I did make it. 
Anyway, please keep me in your thoughts and prayers that whatever it has to be, 
whether surgery or whatever, that it will help the problem, and I’ll have a 
speedy recovery as it’s getting old like I said. I just bought both my grand 
daughters new fishing rods and reels, tackle box filled with tackle, and they 
want “Paw Paw” to be able to take them fishing soon as the water warms up a 
little and I surely want to take them too. Because of moving, and my stomach 
problems last yr, it’s been going on four yrs since I was able to have a full 
fishing season’s worth of fishing, and I’m having fishing “withdrawal” symptoms 
here LOL... I can’t even sit in place long enough to tie over about 3 flies at 
a time without having to get up and walk around a little. Thanks a lot, Chuck

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Re: [VFB] Thoughts and prayers needed

[Chuck Alexander]

Joyce: I just re-read your email, and did you mean that the neurologist are the 
ones DOING the back surgeries??? Or that they are helping patients who might 
have had back surgeries done by orthopedic surgeons ?? Thanks. And No 
snickering from Mr. Fish saying “Hey Joyce, if he can’t understand that, he 
needs a neurologist for his BRAIN, not his back” ROFL. Thanks, Chuck

From: Joyce M Westphal 
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2015 8:11 PM
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Subject: Re: [VFB] Thoughts and prayers needed

It is amazing what our neurologists can do for backs with back surgery..suggest 
that you see both a neurologist and an ortho surgeon and, as suggested already, 
a pain management person.  Often surgery is not required, but when it is, it is 
usually quite successful.  We had 2 back surgeries at our center today, and the 
people both went home this evening already having good feeling in their legs, 
something which was not the case before. Since your  hand was numb, I am 
wondering if you have a cervical as well as a lumbar injury, and it could be 
plain old carpal tunnel disease in your hand.  Please see a neurologist who 
specializes in pain.  Joyce

On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 6:40 PM, Chuck Alexander 
chuckalexan...@centurylink.net wrote:

  Folks: I had to see my doc today about a back condition (6 bulging discs all 
total) I have had for yrs. Last Thursday I put a Reese type hitch on my new  PT 
Cruiser that We took off the old Cruiser one it got wrecked. Anyway, crawling 
around under that car on my back, with the car on ramps and/or jack stands was 
a no no, as when I woke up Friday morning my right leg, from the knee to my 
toes, and my right thumb and index finger were both sound asleep. Not pins and 
nedles, but ASLEEP. But I thought I had just slept wrong, and wiggled my toes 
and digits all day, but the feeling didn’t come back for 30 hours or so and 
when it did, it went from numb, to pins and needles, then to pain, and even 
now, my fingers are all good, but the back of my right calf feels like a mule 
kicked it.

  So, I had to see my doc about it today,and he thinks I might need back 
surgery as he can actually feel a part of my spine that is swollen, and that, 
combined with X-rays, he is referring me to an Ortho doc. He bypassed a 
rheumatologist as he can see arthritis on my spine, but says it’s minor enough 
that he don’t think it’s the problem causing the pain. So, he asked had I ever 
been told I needed surgery and I told him that although I had seen a lot of 
docs about it, I always told then that I did NOT want surgery as I knew a lot 
of ppl who were worse off AFTER back surgery than before, and our pastor;s wife 
in FL had fusion surgery and was bed ridden for six MONTHS. But, those were the 
“bad old days”, and there are commercials on TV now that say they can 
(depending on the problem etc of course) make a 1/2” to 1” incision, and have 
you up and walking a little the next day, what with micro and/or laser surgery 
etc.

  Plus, I’m at the point now with the amt. of pain, that I’ll try anything, or 
it won’t be long till my fishing days are over, as well as exercising not to 
mention AND bending, stooping, lifting, twisting etc. It already hurts like 
crazy to just drive or ride in a car more than about 20 miles. It got so bad 
recently that the yr we were FINALLY planning to come to Sow Bug, we had to 
cancel that plan as I knew my back would not allow a 1,000 round trip 
drive/ride in just a few days. I wouldn’t be able to enjoy it if I did make it. 
Anyway, please keep me in your thoughts and prayers that whatever it has to be, 
whether surgery or whatever, that it will help the problem, and I’ll have a 
speedy recovery as it’s getting old like I said. I just bought both my grand 
daughters new fishing rods and reels, tackle box filled with tackle, and they 
want “Paw Paw” to be able to take them fishing soon as the water warms up a 
little and I surely want to take them too. Because of moving, and my stomach 
problems last yr, it’s been going on four yrs since I was able to have a full 
fishing season’s worth of fishing, and I’m having fishing “withdrawal” symptoms 
here LOL... I can’t even sit in place long enough to tie over about 3 flies at 
a time without having to get up and walk around a little. Thanks a lot, Chuck

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[VFB] Thoughts and prayers needed

[Chuck Alexander]

Folks: I had to see my doc today about a back condition (6 bulging discs all 
total) I have had for yrs. Last Thursday I put a Reese type hitch on my new  PT 
Cruiser that We took off the old Cruiser one it got wrecked. Anyway, crawling 
around under that car on my back, with the car on ramps and/or jack stands was 
a no no, as when I woke up Friday morning my right leg, from the knee to my 
toes, and my right thumb and index finger were both sound asleep. Not pins and 
nedles, but ASLEEP. But I thought I had just slept wrong, and wiggled my toes 
and digits all day, but the feeling didn’t come back for 30 hours or so and 
when it did, it went from numb, to pins and needles, then to pain, and even 
now, my fingers are all good, but the back of my right calf feels like a mule 
kicked it.

So, I had to see my doc about it today,and he thinks I might need back surgery 
as he can actually feel a part of my spine that is swollen, and that, combined 
with X-rays, he is referring me to an Ortho doc. He bypassed a rheumatologist 
as he can see arthritis on my spine, but says it’s minor enough that he don’t 
think it’s the problem causing the pain. So, he asked had I ever been told I 
needed surgery and I told him that although I had seen a lot of docs about it, 
I always told then that I did NOT want surgery as I knew a lot of ppl who were 
worse off AFTER back surgery than before, and our pastor;s wife in FL had 
fusion surgery and was bed ridden for six MONTHS. But, those were the “bad old 
days”, and there are commercials on TV now that say they can (depending on the 
problem etc of course) make a 1/2” to 1” incision, and have you up and walking 
a little the next day, what with micro and/or laser surgery etc.

Plus, I’m at the point now with the amt. of pain, that I’ll try anything, or it 
won’t be long till my fishing days are over, as well as exercising not to 
mention AND bending, stooping, lifting, twisting etc. It already hurts like 
crazy to just drive or ride in a car more than about 20 miles. It got so bad 
recently that the yr we were FINALLY planning to come to Sow Bug, we had to 
cancel that plan as I knew my back would not allow a 1,000 round trip 
drive/ride in just a few days. I wouldn’t be able to enjoy it if I did make it. 
Anyway, please keep me in your thoughts and prayers that whatever it has to be, 
whether surgery or whatever, that it will help the problem, and I’ll have a 
speedy recovery as it’s getting old like I said. I just bought both my grand 
daughters new fishing rods and reels, tackle box filled with tackle, and they 
want “Paw Paw” to be able to take them fishing soon as the water warms up a 
little and I surely want to take them too. Because of moving, and my stomach 
problems last yr, it’s been going on four yrs since I was able to have a full 
fishing season’s worth of fishing, and I’m having fishing “withdrawal” symptoms 
here LOL... I can’t even sit in place long enough to tie over about 3 flies at 
a time without having to get up and walk around a little. Thanks a lot, Chuck

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Re: [VFB] Thoughts and prayers needed

[Bob]

You have them. Have you looked into pain management? My back problems cannot be 
repaired surgically. My spinal canal is shrinking due to arthritis. PM has been 
a godsend. It took awhile but they got the pain under control. I can still 
work. Fishing has been limited but I am hoping to be able to start again. I can 
finally sit in a car for more than 20 min! 

BobH 

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Sent: Monday, February 9, 2015 8:40:45 PM 
Subject: [VFB] Thoughts and prayers needed 

Folks: I had to see my doc today about a back condition (6 bulging discs all 
total) I have had for yrs. Last Thursday I put a Reese type hitch on my new PT 
Cruiser that We took off the old Cruiser one it got wrecked. Anyway, crawling 
around under that car on my back, with the car on ramps and/or jack stands was 
a no no, as when I woke up Friday morning my right leg, from the knee to my 
toes, and my right thumb and index finger were both sound asleep. Not pins and 
nedles, but ASLEEP. But I thought I had just slept wrong, and wiggled my toes 
and digits all day, but the feeling didn’t come back for 30 hours or so and 
when it did, it went from numb, to pins and needles, then to pain, and even 
now, my fingers are all good, but the back of my right calf feels like a mule 
kicked it. 
So, I had to see my doc about it today,and he thinks I might need back surgery 
as he can actually feel a part of my spine that is swollen, and that, combined 
with X-rays, he is referring me to an Ortho doc. He bypassed a rheumatologist 
as he can see arthritis on my spine, but says it’s minor enough that he don’t 
think it’s the problem causing the pain. So, he asked had I ever been told I 
needed surgery and I told him that although I had seen a lot of docs about it, 
I always told then that I did NOT want surgery as I knew a lot of ppl who were 
worse off AFTER back surgery than before, and our pastor;s wife in FL had 
fusion surgery and was bed ridden for six MONTHS. But, those were the “bad old 
days”, and there are commercials on TV now that say they can (depending on the 
problem etc of course) make a 1/2” to 1” incision, and have you up and walking 
a little the next day, what with micro and/or laser surgery etc. 
Plus, I’m at the point now with the amt. of pain, that I’ll try anything, or it 
won’t be long till my fishing days are over, as well as exercising not to 
mention AND bending, stooping, lifting, twisting etc. It already hurts like 
crazy to just drive or ride in a car more than about 20 miles. It got so bad 
recently that the yr we were FINALLY planning to come to Sow Bug, we had to 
cancel that plan as I knew my back would not allow a 1,000 round trip 
drive/ride in just a few days. I wouldn’t be able to enjoy it if I did make it. 
Anyway, please keep me in your thoughts and prayers that whatever it has to be, 
whether surgery or whatever, that it will help the problem, and I’ll have a 
speedy recovery as it’s getting old like I said. I just bought both my grand 
daughters new fishing rods and reels, tackle box filled with tackle, and they 
want “Paw Paw” to be able to take them fishing soon as the water warms up a 
little and I surely want to take them too. Because of moving, and my stomach 
problems last yr, it’s been going on four yrs since I was able to have a full 
fishing season’s worth of fishing, and I’m having fishing “withdrawal” symptoms 
here LOL... I can’t even sit in place long enough to tie over about 3 flies at 
a time without having to get up and walk around a little. Thanks a lot, Chuck 



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Re: [VFB] Thoughts and prayers needed

[Joyce M Westphal]

It is amazing what our neurologists can do for backs with back
surgery..suggest that you see both a neurologist and an ortho surgeon and,
as suggested already, a pain management person.  Often surgery is not
required, but when it is, it is usually quite successful.  We had 2 back
surgeries at our center today, and the people both went home this evening
already having good feeling in their legs, something which was not the case
before. Since your  hand was numb, I am wondering if you have a cervical as
well as a lumbar injury, and it could be plain old carpal tunnel disease
in your hand.  Please see a neurologist who specializes in pain.  Joyce

On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 6:40 PM, Chuck Alexander 
chuckalexan...@centurylink.net wrote:

   Folks: I had to see my doc today about a back condition (6 bulging
 discs all total) I have had for yrs. Last Thursday I put a Reese type hitch
 on my new  PT Cruiser that We took off the old Cruiser one it got wrecked.
 Anyway, crawling around under that car on my back, with the car on ramps
 and/or jack stands was a no no, as when I woke up Friday morning my right
 leg, from the knee to my toes, and my right thumb and index finger were
 both sound asleep. Not pins and nedles, but ASLEEP. But I thought I had
 just slept wrong, and wiggled my toes and digits all day, but the feeling
 didn’t come back for 30 hours or so and when it did, it went from numb, to
 pins and needles, then to pain, and even now, my fingers are all good, but
 the back of my right calf feels like a mule kicked it.

 So, I had to see my doc about it today,and he thinks I might need back
 surgery as he can actually feel a part of my spine that is swollen, and
 that, combined with X-rays, he is referring me to an Ortho doc. He bypassed
 a rheumatologist as he can see arthritis on my spine, but says it’s minor
 enough that he don’t think it’s the problem causing the pain. So, he asked
 had I ever been told I needed surgery and I told him that although I had
 seen a lot of docs about it, I always told then that I did NOT want surgery
 as I knew a lot of ppl who were worse off AFTER back surgery than before,
 and our pastor;s wife in FL had fusion surgery and was bed ridden for six
 MONTHS. But, those were the “bad old days”, and there are commercials on TV
 now that say they can (depending on the problem etc of course) make a 1/2”
 to 1” incision, and have you up and walking a little the next day, what
 with micro and/or laser surgery etc.

 Plus, I’m at the point now with the amt. of pain, that I’ll try anything,
 or it won’t be long till my fishing days are over, as well as exercising
 not to mention AND bending, stooping, lifting, twisting etc. It already
 hurts like crazy to just drive or ride in a car more than about 20 miles.
 It got so bad recently that the yr we were FINALLY planning to come to Sow
 Bug, we had to cancel that plan as I knew my back would not allow a 1,000
 round trip drive/ride in just a few days. I wouldn’t be able to enjoy it if
 I did make it. Anyway, please keep me in your thoughts and prayers that
 whatever it has to be, whether surgery or whatever, that it will help the
 problem, and I’ll have a speedy recovery as it’s getting old like I said. I
 just bought both my grand daughters new fishing rods and reels, tackle box
 filled with tackle, and they want “Paw Paw” to be able to take them fishing
 soon as the water warms up a little and I surely want to take them too.
 Because of moving, and my stomach problems last yr, it’s been going on four
 yrs since I was able to have a full fishing season’s worth of fishing, and
 I’m having fishing “withdrawal” symptoms here LOL... I can’t even sit in
 place long enough to tie over about 3 flies at a time without having to get
 up and walk around a little. Thanks a lot, Chuck


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[Chuck Alexander]

Bob: Yeah, sadly I went to 3 different pain management docs over a period of 15 
yrs, and all three were nothing more than “pill mills”. The last one, I saw for 
12 yrs, and just stopped going there after October 2013 after he prescribed me 
eight 10mg Methadone tablets per day. Then, I’d get epidurals (which helped 
1000%) every other month, or every third month. But even though I never once 
took over 4 Methadone tablets a day, I asked if I could just come off the meds, 
and take the epidurals. He said “No, either you need them both or you don’t 
need either”. That was code to me as saying “we know it’s the drugs that keep 
most ppl coming back here”. Well, it made me mad as I wasn’t “most ppl”. 

Anyway, it was such a turn around from 12 yrs earlier when he was fresh out of 
his pain management specialty training and thought  of you as a person, and not 
 “$$ signs”. First time I saw the guy, back in 2001, he drew pics for my wife 
and I after getting my results of an MRI he ordered and explaining EVERYTHING 
from Here’s how the spinal cord works and looks, or how it’s SUPPOSED to look 
and work, and here is how yours looks and works, and here’s the “plan of 
attack” to get you feeling better etc ect. And it worked. After the VA quacks 
I’d seen he was a God send. But as he got more and more patients, and his love 
for money grew and grew, it got sadder and sadder.  Anyway, I know there are 
great pain management docs out there and maybe I’ll find another one, but they, 
like VA docs, have left a bad taste in my mouth for now. And it’s sad, because 
I think that most ppl really are in pain, but as usually, the drug seekers are 
the ones that make it to where the few hurt the many, and the ppl who really do 
need pain relief cannot find it because the docs are afraid of the Govt. Chuck

From: Bob 
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2015 7:56 PM
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Subject: Re: [VFB] Thoughts and prayers needed

You have them.  Have you looked into pain management?  My back problems cannot 
be repaired surgically.  My spinal canal is shrinking due to arthritis.  PM has 
been a godsend.  It took awhile but they got the pain under control.  I can 
still work.  Fishing has been limited but I am hoping to be able to start 
again.  I can finally sit in a car for more than 20 min!

BobH





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Folks: I had to see my doc today about a back condition (6 bulging discs all 
total) I have had for yrs. Last Thursday I put a Reese type hitch on my new  PT 
Cruiser that We took off the old Cruiser one it got wrecked. Anyway, crawling 
around under that car on my back, with the car on ramps and/or jack stands was 
a no no, as when I woke up Friday morning my right leg, from the knee to my 
toes, and my right thumb and index finger were both sound asleep. Not pins and 
nedles, but ASLEEP. But I thought I had just slept wrong, and wiggled my toes 
and digits all day, but the feeling didn’t come back for 30 hours or so and 
when it did, it went from numb, to pins and needles, then to pain, and even 
now, my fingers are all good, but the back of my right calf feels like a mule 
kicked it.

So, I had to see my doc about it today,and he thinks I might need back surgery 
as he can actually feel a part of my spine that is swollen, and that, combined 
with X-rays, he is referring me to an Ortho doc. He bypassed a rheumatologist 
as he can see arthritis on my spine, but says it’s minor enough that he don’t 
think it’s the problem causing the pain. So, he asked had I ever been told I 
needed surgery and I told him that although I had seen a lot of docs about it, 
I always told then that I did NOT want surgery as I knew a lot of ppl who were 
worse off AFTER back surgery than before, and our pastor;s wife in FL had 
fusion surgery and was bed ridden for six MONTHS. But, those were the “bad old 
days”, and there are commercials on TV now that say they can (depending on the 
problem etc of course) make a 1/2” to 1” incision, and have you up and walking 
a little the next day, what with micro and/or laser surgery etc.

Plus, I’m at the point now with the amt. of pain, that I’ll try anything, or it 
won’t be long till my fishing days are over, as well as exercising not to 
mention AND bending, stooping, lifting, twisting etc. It already hurts like 
crazy to just drive or ride in a car more than about 20 miles. It got so bad 
recently that the yr we were FINALLY planning to come to Sow Bug, we had to 
cancel that plan as I knew my back would not allow a 1,000 round trip 
drive/ride in just a few days. I wouldn’t be able to enjoy it if I did make it. 
Anyway, please keep me in your thoughts

[VFB] Thoughts and prayers needed

[Chuck Alexander]

Folks: I got my appt. to get my skin cancer removed on Tuesday, Sept 16th at 
2pm central time. I guess I’ll find out soon after that exactly what type/stage 
etc that it is. Please remember me (and my doc that he is able to get out EVERY 
cancer cell at that time) in your thoughts and prayers on that date. Thanks a 
lot, Chuck

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Re: [VFB] Thoughts and prayers needed

[Donna Crowell]

Chuck,

When my mother in law had skin cancer she did not need any chemo.  Like
Allan said, the odds are very high.

Donna..

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 I hope they don't need to do anything but cut it out and say adios to it,
 Chuck

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 Well, I'll tell them to use the non sick as a dog kind on me. But they
 probably have to use the one that depends on where the cancer is, and what
 type it is right??? Chuck


 Mainly what type it is.  And the odds are very high that you will NOT
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Re: [VFB] Thoughts and prayers needed

[Chuck Alexander]

Donna: Thanks. I hope Allan is right.Chuck

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Chuck, 

When my mother in law had skin cancer she did not need any chemo.  Like Allan 
said, the odds are very high.

Donna..

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  I hope they don't need to do anything but cut it out and say adios to it, 
Chuck

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Well, I'll tell them to use the non sick as a dog kind on me. But they 
probably have to use the one that depends on where the cancer is, and what type 
it is right??? Chuck


  Mainly what type it is.  And the odds are very high that you will NOT
  have to do chemo.

  a.

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[VFB] Thoughts and prayers needed

[Chuck Alexander]

Folks: I need your thoughts and prayers please. I have had a “lesion” about 
1/2” diameter on my shoulder for about four months now and went to the doc to 
get it checked today. I hadn’t mentioned it to him before as I was having all 
those IBS intestinal pains, and it would slip my mind as that pain was all I 
was worried about. 

Anyway, he took one look at it and said “that’s skin cancer and we need to take 
it off asap” He says that he won’t know the type till he cuts it out and sends 
a biopsy to the lab. He did say he didn’t think it has metastasized, but I 
don’t know how he knows that unless it’s from the 6 tubes of blood they drew 
today. I’ll probably get it taken off in about ten days or so as he has to be 
out of town on continuing education next week. He’s says “don’t worry about it” 
(easy for him to say, specially since I lost my favorite Uncle to skin cancer 
about 15 yrs ago). 

Nobody likes to hear the “C” word, but I’ll just cross whatever bridges I have 
to cross when and/or as I get to then. That’s all I can do right now.  But, 
being a natural worrier  and say I’m worried about it would be an 
understatement right about now. I’m sure that living in FL and being a welder 
in FL for 20+ yrs didn’t didn’t help, as well as going shirtless back when I 
had the body for it. I have several more that he says was “pre cancerous”  
(they are different looking from this one, but I’ll start with the “biggie” and 
let him cut em all off asap) that he’d take off at a later date, but wants to 
get the one off now. Thanks a lot. Chuck

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Re: [VFB] Thoughts and prayers needed

[Joyce M Westphal]

Oh Chuck, exactly what you didn't need.  But, the good thing about most
skin cancers are that they are all curable, though some take more trouble
to do so than do others. Im hoping that it is in a very early stage and
will be readily excised. Tell him to be sure he has a good wide, clear
margin around the lesion (I'm sure he will do that for sure anyway).
Thoughts and prayers for your quick diagnosis and recovery. Joyce


On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 5:20 PM, Chuck Alexander 
chuckalexan...@centurylink.net wrote:

   Folks: I need your thoughts and prayers please. I have had a “lesion”
 about 1/2” diameter on my shoulder for about four months now and went to
 the doc to get it checked today. I hadn’t mentioned it to him before as I
 was having all those IBS intestinal pains, and it would slip my mind as
 that pain was all I was worried about.

 Anyway, he took one look at it and said “that’s skin cancer and we need to
 take it off asap” He says that he won’t know the type till he cuts it out
 and sends a biopsy to the lab. He did say he didn’t think it has
 metastasized, but I don’t know how he knows that unless it’s from the 6
 tubes of blood they drew today. I’ll probably get it taken off in about ten
 days or so as he has to be out of town on continuing education next week.
 He’s says “don’t worry about it” (easy for him to say, specially since I
 lost my favorite Uncle to skin cancer about 15 yrs ago).

 Nobody likes to hear the “C” word, but I’ll just cross whatever bridges I
 have to cross when and/or as I get to then. That’s all I can do right now.
 But, being a natural worrier  and say I’m worried about it would be an
 understatement right about now. I’m sure that living in FL and being a
 welder in FL for 20+ yrs didn’t didn’t help, as well as going shirtless
 back when I had the body for it. I have several more that he says was “pre
 cancerous”  (they are different looking from this one, but I’ll start with
 the “biggie” and let him cut em all off asap) that he’d take off at a later
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Re: [VFB] Thoughts and prayers needed

[admin]

I echo what Joyce said.  I have twice had to have skin cancers taken off.  
Hopefully yours will be the type that is cared for by simple surgery and not 
any chemo.  I will certainly have you in my prayers.

Mike


On Sep 5, 2014, at 5:20 PM, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@centurylink.net 
wrote:

 Folks: I need your thoughts and prayers please. I have had a lesion about 
 1/2 diameter on my shoulder for about four months now and went to the doc to 
 get it checked today. I hadn't mentioned it to him before as I was having all 
 those IBS intestinal pains, and it would slip my mind as that pain was all I 
 was worried about.
  
 Anyway, he took one look at it and said that's skin cancer and we need to 
 take it off asap He says that he won't know the type till he cuts it out and 
 sends a biopsy to the lab. He did say he didn't think it has metastasized, 
 but I don't know how he knows that unless it's from the 6 tubes of blood they 
 drew today. I'll probably get it taken off in about ten days or so as he has 
 to be out of town on continuing education next week. He's says don't worry 
 about it (easy for him to say, specially since I lost my favorite Uncle to 
 skin cancer about 15 yrs ago).
  
 Nobody likes to hear the C word, but I'll just cross whatever bridges I 
 have to cross when and/or as I get to then. That's all I can do right now.  
 But, being a natural worrier  and say I'm worried about it would be an 
 understatement right about now. I'm sure that living in FL and being a welder 
 in FL for 20+ yrs didn't didn't help, as well as going shirtless back when I 
 had the body for it. I have several more that he says was pre cancerous  
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 and let him cut em all off asap) that he'd take off at a later date, but 
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Re: [VFB] Thoughts and prayers needed

[Gary Webb]

Mine too.

Gary


On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 7:33 AM, Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Chuck,
 You have my thoughts and prayers.
 Arkansas Tony


   On Sunday, December 1, 2013 2:39 AM, Joyce M Westphal 
 joyce...@gmail.com wrote:
  Prayers and healing thoughts for you.  I am so sorry to hear of your
 distress and pray the source will be found and easily remedied. Joyce


 On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 11:53 PM, Michael Bliss flyfish...@gmail.comwrote:

 You have got our prayers, Chuck.

 Mike


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 chuckalexan...@centurylink.net wrote:

   Folks: I need your thoughts and prayers. This Tuesday morning I have to
 have both an Upper Endoscopy and a Colonoscopy (PLEASE God let them use two
 DIFFERENT tubes LOL) as I have been having stomach/intestinal pains since
 late July or so. It got s bad, that in August I had to go to the ER and
 they kept me for three days running all sorts of tests, starting with tests
 on the heart as a man (or woman) of 55 with any type chest or abdominal
 pain, that’s the first thing they rule out. Thought it was my gall bladder
 because the pain radiated in back from between my shoulder blades to down
 and in front at my abdominal area. Ruled that out with CT scans, and
 ultrasounds, and said though the gall bladder a little inflamed, there were
 no stones, or blockages. Plus, they did a Mio View stress test for my heart
 and said they saw little or no blockages, so I was glad to hear that. But
 SOMETHING is making it hurt 24/7. My doc says it could even be scar
 tissue/adhesions attaching themselves to my intestines as I had to have
 FIVE Hiatal Hernia repair surgeries, and have three plastic meshes in there
 now, along with 27 staples, and over 200 permanent type stitches.  I hope
 they find out what it is, but just hope it’s something that can be easilly
 corrected as this pain is getting to be a major pain. And NONE of the meds
 my new doc I found while in the hospital prescribed me. That’s was the good
 part about that whole thing too. I went to a different hospital than the
 one we normally use, as we moved two years ago, and the one I now use is
 closer, and I love my new doc who is now our new Family Doc. Thanks a lot,
 Chuck
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Re: [VFB] Thoughts and prayers needed

[Dan]

You are in my thoughts and prayers Chuck.

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Mike: Thanks a lot, Chuck

 

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You have got our prayers, Chuck. 

 

Mike

 

On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 6:08 PM, Chuck Alexander
chuckalexan...@centurylink.net wrote:

Folks: I need your thoughts and prayers. This Tuesday morning I have to have
both an Upper Endoscopy and a Colonoscopy (PLEASE God let them use two
DIFFERENT tubes LOL) as I have been having stomach/intestinal pains since
late July or so. It got s bad, that in August I had to go to the ER and
they kept me for three days running all sorts of tests, starting with tests
on the heart as a man (or woman) of 55 with any type chest or abdominal
pain, that’s the first thing they rule out. Thought it was my gall bladder
because the pain radiated in back from between my shoulder blades to down
and in front at my abdominal area. Ruled that out with CT scans, and
ultrasounds, and said though the gall bladder a little inflamed, there were
no stones, or blockages. Plus, they did a Mio View stress test for my heart
and said they saw little or no blockages, so I was glad to hear that. But
SOMETHING is making it hurt 24/7. My doc says it could even be scar
tissue/adhesions attaching themselves to my intestines as I had to have FIVE
Hiatal Hernia repair surgeries, and have three plastic meshes in there now,
along with 27 staples, and over 200 permanent type stitches.  I hope they
find out what it is, but just hope it’s something that can be easilly
corrected as this pain is getting to be a major pain. And NONE of the meds
my new doc I found while in the hospital prescribed me. That’s was the good
part about that whole thing too. I went to a different hospital than the one
we normally use, as we moved two years ago, and the one I now use is closer,
and I love my new doc who is now our new Family Doc. Thanks a lot, Chuck

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Re: [VFB] Thoughts and prayers needed

[Chuck Alexander]

Peggy: Thanks a lot. Me too. I hope he finds whatever is causing the pain, 
because three months is three months too long,but hope it’s an easy fix. 
That would be the best outcome I could hope for. When I was in the hospital 
two months ago they thought it was my IBS acting up, but apparently not. 
Chuck


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From: Peggy Brenner

Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 4:48 PM
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I hope this is just some testing, or maybe a little adjustment of a
previous repair.

Peggy

On 11/30/2013 11:08 PM, Chuck Alexander wrote:

Folks: I need your thoughts and prayers. This Tuesday morning I have to
have both an Upper Endoscopy and a Colonoscopy (PLEASE God let them use
two DIFFERENT tubes LOL) as I have been having stomach/intestinal pains
since late July or so. It got s bad, that in August I had to go to
the ER and they kept me for three days running all sorts of tests,
starting with tests on the heart as a man (or woman) of 55 with any type
chest or abdominal pain, that’s the first thing they rule out. Thought
it was my gall bladder because the pain radiated in back from between my
shoulder blades to down and in front at my abdominal area. Ruled that
out with CT scans, and  ultrasounds, and said though the gall bladder a
little inflamed, there were no stones, or blockages. Plus, they did a
Mio View stress test for my heart and said they saw little or no
blockages, so I was glad to hear that. But SOMETHING is making it hurt
24/7. My doc says it could even be scar tissue/adhesions attaching
themselves to my intestines as I had to have FIVE Hiatal Hernia repair
surgeries, and have three plastic meshes in there now, along with 27
staples, and over 200 permanent type stitches.  I hope they find out
what it is, but just hope it’s something that can be easilly corrected
as this pain is getting to be a major pain. And NONE of the meds my new
doc I found while in the hospital prescribed me. That’s was the good
part about that whole thing too. I went to a different hospital than the
one we normally use, as we moved two years ago, and the one I now use is
closer, and I love my new doc who is now our new Family Doc. Thanks a
lot, Chuck

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Re: [VFB] Thoughts and prayers needed

[Joyce M Westphal]

Prayers and healing thoughts for you.  I am so sorry to hear of your
distress and pray the source will be found and easily remedied. Joyce


On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 11:53 PM, Michael Bliss flyfish...@gmail.comwrote:

 You have got our prayers, Chuck.

 Mike


 On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 6:08 PM, Chuck Alexander 
 chuckalexan...@centurylink.net wrote:

   Folks: I need your thoughts and prayers. This Tuesday morning I have
 to have both an Upper Endoscopy and a Colonoscopy (PLEASE God let them use
 two DIFFERENT tubes LOL) as I have been having stomach/intestinal pains
 since late July or so. It got s bad, that in August I had to go to the
 ER and they kept me for three days running all sorts of tests, starting
 with tests on the heart as a man (or woman) of 55 with any type chest or
 abdominal pain, that’s the first thing they rule out. Thought it was my
 gall bladder because the pain radiated in back from between my shoulder
 blades to down and in front at my abdominal area. Ruled that out with CT
 scans, and  ultrasounds, and said though the gall bladder a little
 inflamed, there were no stones, or blockages. Plus, they did a Mio View
 stress test for my heart and said they saw little or no blockages, so I was
 glad to hear that. But SOMETHING is making it hurt 24/7. My doc says it
 could even be scar tissue/adhesions attaching themselves to my intestines
 as I had to have FIVE Hiatal Hernia repair surgeries, and have three
 plastic meshes in there now, along with 27 staples, and over 200 permanent
 type stitches.  I hope they find out what it is, but just hope it’s
 something that can be easilly corrected as this pain is getting to be a
 major pain. And NONE of the meds my new doc I found while in the hospital
 prescribed me. That’s was the good part about that whole thing too. I went
 to a different hospital than the one we normally use, as we moved two years
 ago, and the one I now use is closer, and I love my new doc who is now our
 new Family Doc. Thanks a lot, Chuck

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Re: [VFB] Thoughts and prayers needed

[Anthony Spezio]

Chuck,
You have my thoughts and prayers.
Arkansas Tony



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Prayers and healing thoughts for you.  I am so sorry to hear of your distress 
and pray the source will be found and easily remedied. Joyce



On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 11:53 PM, Michael Bliss flyfish...@gmail.com wrote:

You have got our prayers, Chuck.


Mike



On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 6:08 PM, Chuck Alexander 
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Folks: I need your thoughts and prayers. This Tuesday morning I have to 
have both an Upper Endoscopy and a Colonoscopy (PLEASE God let them use two 
DIFFERENT tubes LOL) as I have been having stomach/intestinal pains since late 
July or so. It got s bad, that in August I had to go to the ER and they 
kept 
me for three days running all sorts of tests, starting with tests on the heart 
as a man (or woman) of 55 with any type chest or abdominal pain, that’s the 
first thing they rule out. Thought it was my gall bladder because the pain 
radiated in back from between my shoulder blades to down and in front at my 
abdominal area. Ruled that out with CT scans, and  ultrasounds, and said 
though the gall bladder a little inflamed, there were no stones, or blockages. 
Plus, they did a Mio View stress test for my heart and said they saw little or 
no blockages, so I was glad to hear that. But SOMETHING is making it hurt 24/7. 
My doc says it could even be scar tissue/adhesions attaching themselves to my 
intestines as I had to have FIVE Hiatal Hernia repair surgeries, and have three 
plastic meshes in there now, along with 27 staples, and over 200 permanent type 
stitches.  I hope they find out what it is, but just hope it’s something 
that can be easilly corrected as this pain is getting to be a major pain. And 
NONE of the meds my new doc I found while in the hospital prescribed me. That’s 
was the good part about that whole thing too. I went to a different hospital 
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Re: [VFB] Thoughts and prayers needed

[Don Ordes]

Chuck, Our thoughts and prayers are with you. Hang in there.
DonO

From: Chuck Alexander 
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2013 9:08 PM
To: Cheaper Living ; fly fishing for panfish ; vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Subject: [VFB] Thoughts and prayers needed

Folks: I need your thoughts and prayers. This Tuesday morning I have to have 
both an Upper Endoscopy and a Colonoscopy (PLEASE God let them use two 
DIFFERENT tubes LOL) as I have been having stomach/intestinal pains since late 
July or so. It got s bad, that in August I had to go to the ER and they 
kept me for three days running all sorts of tests, starting with tests on the 
heart as a man (or woman) of 55 with any type chest or abdominal pain, that’s 
the first thing they rule out. Thought it was my gall bladder because the pain 
radiated in back from between my shoulder blades to down and in front at my 
abdominal area. Ruled that out with CT scans, and  ultrasounds, and said though 
the gall bladder a little inflamed, there were no stones, or blockages. Plus, 
they did a Mio View stress test for my heart and said they saw little or no 
blockages, so I was glad to hear that. But SOMETHING is making it hurt 24/7. My 
doc says it could even be scar tissue/adhesions attaching themselves to my 
intestines as I had to have FIVE Hiatal Hernia repair surgeries, and have three 
plastic meshes in there now, along with 27 staples, and over 200 permanent type 
stitches.  I hope they find out what it is, but just hope it’s something that 
can be easilly corrected as this pain is getting to be a major pain. And NONE 
of the meds my new doc I found while in the hospital prescribed me. That’s was 
the good part about that whole thing too. I went to a different hospital than 
the one we normally use, as we moved two years ago, and the one I now use is 
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Re: [VFB] Thoughts and prayers needed

[Don Ordes]

Chuck, I sent you an email off-list.  Let me know when you get it.
DonO

From: Chuck Alexander 
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2013 9:08 PM
To: Cheaper Living ; fly fishing for panfish ; vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Subject: [VFB] Thoughts and prayers needed

Folks: I need your thoughts and prayers. This Tuesday morning I have to have 
both an Upper Endoscopy and a Colonoscopy (PLEASE God let them use two 
DIFFERENT tubes LOL) as I have been having stomach/intestinal pains since late 
July or so. It got s bad, that in August I had to go to the ER and they 
kept me for three days running all sorts of tests, starting with tests on the 
heart as a man (or woman) of 55 with any type chest or abdominal pain, that’s 
the first thing they rule out. Thought it was my gall bladder because the pain 
radiated in back from between my shoulder blades to down and in front at my 
abdominal area. Ruled that out with CT scans, and  ultrasounds, and said though 
the gall bladder a little inflamed, there were no stones, or blockages. Plus, 
they did a Mio View stress test for my heart and said they saw little or no 
blockages, so I was glad to hear that. But SOMETHING is making it hurt 24/7. My 
doc says it could even be scar tissue/adhesions attaching themselves to my 
intestines as I had to have FIVE Hiatal Hernia repair surgeries, and have three 
plastic meshes in there now, along with 27 staples, and over 200 permanent type 
stitches.  I hope they find out what it is, but just hope it’s something that 
can be easilly corrected as this pain is getting to be a major pain. And NONE 
of the meds my new doc I found while in the hospital prescribed me. That’s was 
the good part about that whole thing too. I went to a different hospital than 
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Re: [VFB] Thoughts and prayers needed

[Neville Gosling]

Done!


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BC  Canada

The Enbridge pipeline is a project so toxic that it brings global shame to 
Canada.

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 Folks: I need your thoughts and prayers. 

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Re: [VFB] Thoughts and prayers needed

[Chuck Alexander]

Tony: Thanks a lot, Chuck

From: Anthony Spezio 
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Subject: Re: [VFB] Thoughts and prayers needed

Chuck,
You have my thoughts and prayers.
Arkansas Tony



On Sunday, December 1, 2013 2:39 AM, Joyce M Westphal joyce...@gmail.com 
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Prayers and healing thoughts for you.  I am so sorry to hear of your distress 
and pray the source will be found and easily remedied. Joyce



On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 11:53 PM, Michael Bliss flyfish...@gmail.com wrote:

  You have got our prayers, Chuck. 

  Mike



  On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 6:08 PM, Chuck Alexander 
chuckalexan...@centurylink.net wrote:

Folks: I need your thoughts and prayers. This Tuesday morning I have to 
have both an Upper Endoscopy and a Colonoscopy (PLEASE God let them use two 
DIFFERENT tubes LOL) as I have been having stomach/intestinal pains since late 
July or so. It got s bad, that in August I had to go to the ER and they 
kept me for three days running all sorts of tests, starting with tests on the 
heart as a man (or woman) of 55 with any type chest or abdominal pain, that’s 
the first thing they rule out. Thought it was my gall bladder because the pain 
radiated in back from between my shoulder blades to down and in front at my 
abdominal area. Ruled that out with CT scans, and  ultrasounds, and said though 
the gall bladder a little inflamed, there were no stones, or blockages. Plus, 
they did a Mio View stress test for my heart and said they saw little or no 
blockages, so I was glad to hear that. But SOMETHING is making it hurt 24/7. My 
doc says it could even be scar tissue/adhesions attaching themselves to my 
intestines as I had to have FIVE Hiatal Hernia repair surgeries, and have three 
plastic meshes in there now, along with 27 staples, and over 200 permanent type 
stitches.  I hope they find out what it is, but just hope it’s something that 
can be easilly corrected as this pain is getting to be a major pain. And NONE 
of the meds my new doc I found while in the hospital prescribed me. That’s was 
the good part about that whole thing too. I went to a different hospital than 
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Re: [VFB] Thoughts and prayers needed

[Chuck Alexander]

Mike: Thanks a lot, Chuck

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You have got our prayers, Chuck. 

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  Folks: I need your thoughts and prayers. This Tuesday morning I have to have 
both an Upper Endoscopy and a Colonoscopy (PLEASE God let them use two 
DIFFERENT tubes LOL) as I have been having stomach/intestinal pains since late 
July or so. It got s bad, that in August I had to go to the ER and they 
kept me for three days running all sorts of tests, starting with tests on the 
heart as a man (or woman) of 55 with any type chest or abdominal pain, that’s 
the first thing they rule out. Thought it was my gall bladder because the pain 
radiated in back from between my shoulder blades to down and in front at my 
abdominal area. Ruled that out with CT scans, and  ultrasounds, and said though 
the gall bladder a little inflamed, there were no stones, or blockages. Plus, 
they did a Mio View stress test for my heart and said they saw little or no 
blockages, so I was glad to hear that. But SOMETHING is making it hurt 24/7. My 
doc says it could even be scar tissue/adhesions attaching themselves to my 
intestines as I had to have FIVE Hiatal Hernia repair surgeries, and have three 
plastic meshes in there now, along with 27 staples, and over 200 permanent type 
stitches.  I hope they find out what it is, but just hope it’s something that 
can be easilly corrected as this pain is getting to be a major pain. And NONE 
of the meds my new doc I found while in the hospital prescribed me. That’s was 
the good part about that whole thing too. I went to a different hospital than 
the one we normally use, as we moved two years ago, and the one I now use is 
closer, and I love my new doc who is now our new Family Doc. Thanks a lot, Chuck
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Re: [VFB] Thoughts and prayers needed

[Peggy Brenner]

I hope this is just some testing, or maybe a little adjustment of a 
previous repair.


Peggy

On 11/30/2013 11:08 PM, Chuck Alexander wrote:

Folks: I need your thoughts and prayers. This Tuesday morning I have to
have both an Upper Endoscopy and a Colonoscopy (PLEASE God let them use
two DIFFERENT tubes LOL) as I have been having stomach/intestinal pains
since late July or so. It got s bad, that in August I had to go to
the ER and they kept me for three days running all sorts of tests,
starting with tests on the heart as a man (or woman) of 55 with any type
chest or abdominal pain, that’s the first thing they rule out. Thought
it was my gall bladder because the pain radiated in back from between my
shoulder blades to down and in front at my abdominal area. Ruled that
out with CT scans, and  ultrasounds, and said though the gall bladder a
little inflamed, there were no stones, or blockages. Plus, they did a
Mio View stress test for my heart and said they saw little or no
blockages, so I was glad to hear that. But SOMETHING is making it hurt
24/7. My doc says it could even be scar tissue/adhesions attaching
themselves to my intestines as I had to have FIVE Hiatal Hernia repair
surgeries, and have three plastic meshes in there now, along with 27
staples, and over 200 permanent type stitches.  I hope they find out
what it is, but just hope it’s something that can be easilly corrected
as this pain is getting to be a major pain. And NONE of the meds my new
doc I found while in the hospital prescribed me. That’s was the good
part about that whole thing too. I went to a different hospital than the
one we normally use, as we moved two years ago, and the one I now use is
closer, and I love my new doc who is now our new Family Doc. Thanks a
lot, Chuck

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[VFB] Thoughts and prayers needed

[Chuck Alexander]

Folks: I need your thoughts and prayers. This Tuesday morning I have to have 
both an Upper Endoscopy and a Colonoscopy (PLEASE God let them use two 
DIFFERENT tubes LOL) as I have been having stomach/intestinal pains since late 
July or so. It got s bad, that in August I had to go to the ER and they 
kept me for three days running all sorts of tests, starting with tests on the 
heart as a man (or woman) of 55 with any type chest or abdominal pain, that’s 
the first thing they rule out. Thought it was my gall bladder because the pain 
radiated in back from between my shoulder blades to down and in front at my 
abdominal area. Ruled that out with CT scans, and  ultrasounds, and said though 
the gall bladder a little inflamed, there were no stones, or blockages. Plus, 
they did a Mio View stress test for my heart and said they saw little or no 
blockages, so I was glad to hear that. But SOMETHING is making it hurt 24/7. My 
doc says it could even be scar tissue/adhesions attaching themselves to my 
intestines as I had to have FIVE Hiatal Hernia repair surgeries, and have three 
plastic meshes in there now, along with 27 staples, and over 200 permanent type 
stitches.  I hope they find out what it is, but just hope it’s something that 
can be easilly corrected as this pain is getting to be a major pain. And NONE 
of the meds my new doc I found while in the hospital prescribed me. That’s was 
the good part about that whole thing too. I went to a different hospital than 
the one we normally use, as we moved two years ago, and the one I now use is 
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Re: [VFB] Thoughts and prayers needed

[Michael Bliss]

You have got our prayers, Chuck.

Mike


On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 6:08 PM, Chuck Alexander 
chuckalexan...@centurylink.net wrote:

   Folks: I need your thoughts and prayers. This Tuesday morning I have to
 have both an Upper Endoscopy and a Colonoscopy (PLEASE God let them use two
 DIFFERENT tubes LOL) as I have been having stomach/intestinal pains since
 late July or so. It got s bad, that in August I had to go to the ER and
 they kept me for three days running all sorts of tests, starting with tests
 on the heart as a man (or woman) of 55 with any type chest or abdominal
 pain, that’s the first thing they rule out. Thought it was my gall bladder
 because the pain radiated in back from between my shoulder blades to down
 and in front at my abdominal area. Ruled that out with CT scans, and
 ultrasounds, and said though the gall bladder a little inflamed, there were
 no stones, or blockages. Plus, they did a Mio View stress test for my heart
 and said they saw little or no blockages, so I was glad to hear that. But
 SOMETHING is making it hurt 24/7. My doc says it could even be scar
 tissue/adhesions attaching themselves to my intestines as I had to have
 FIVE Hiatal Hernia repair surgeries, and have three plastic meshes in there
 now, along with 27 staples, and over 200 permanent type stitches.  I hope
 they find out what it is, but just hope it’s something that can be easilly
 corrected as this pain is getting to be a major pain. And NONE of the meds
 my new doc I found while in the hospital prescribed me. That’s was the good
 part about that whole thing too. I went to a different hospital than the
 one we normally use, as we moved two years ago, and the one I now use is
 closer, and I love my new doc who is now our new Family Doc. Thanks a lot,
 Chuck

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