[VFB] Book question??
Folks: Does anybody have the book called "Simple Flies: Flies you can tie with three materials or less" by C. Boyd Pfeiffer ?? Is it a good book??? Worth the money etc. ?? Thanks for any info about this book, Chuck -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Book For Sale
ok, give me the details, address etc... Ron haerb...@comcast.net wrote: > Sorry for the delay in getting back to you Ron, very long day at work. It is > yours if you like as for the shipping I want to look into the USPS flat > boxes. Payment by check or Money Order. > > Thanks Much!! > > > BobH > > - Original Message - > From: rx4fish...@nycap.rr.com > To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > Cc: haerb...@comcast.net > Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 7:37:15 PM > Subject: Re: [VFB] Book For Sale > > Bob, I will purchase it if you have not sold it already.. > > Ron Boutin > haerb...@comcast.net wrote: > > hardcover embossed and numbered > > > > > > BobH > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "John" > > To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > > Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 5:49:00 PM > > Subject: Re: [VFB] Book For Sale > > > > > > Is it a hardcover? What makes it a limited edition? > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On May 21, 2012, at 5:31 PM, haerb...@comcast.net wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > $20 plus shipping > > > > > > BobH > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "John" < ridderb...@att.net > > > To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > > Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 3:24:11 PM > > Subject: Re: [VFB] Book For Sale > > > > > > How much? > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On May 21, 2012, at 2:36 PM, haerb...@comcast.net wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to sell this book. It is unread, mint condition limited > > edition 81 out of a 107. > > > > Steelhead Fly Fishing On The Olympic Peninsula: The Color Of Winter > > > > By Doug Rose > > > > > > BobH > > > > > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" > > group. > > > > To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en > > > > VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com > > > > > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" > > group. > > > > To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en > > > > VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" > > group. > > > > To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en > > > > VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com > > > > > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" > > group. > > > > To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en > > > > VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" > > group. > > > > To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en > > > > VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. > > To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe fro
Re: [VFB] Book For Sale
Sorry for the delay in getting back to you Ron, very long day at work. It is yours if you like as for the shipping I want to look into the USPS flat boxes. Payment by check or Money Order. Thanks Much!! BobH - Original Message - From: rx4fish...@nycap.rr.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Cc: haerb...@comcast.net Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 7:37:15 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] Book For Sale Bob, I will purchase it if you have not sold it already.. Ron Boutin haerb...@comcast.net wrote: > hardcover embossed and numbered > > > BobH > > - Original Message - > From: "John" > To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 5:49:00 PM > Subject: Re: [VFB] Book For Sale > > > Is it a hardcover? What makes it a limited edition? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 21, 2012, at 5:31 PM, haerb...@comcast.net wrote: > > > > > > > $20 plus shipping > > > BobH > > - Original Message - > From: "John" < ridderb...@att.net > > To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 3:24:11 PM > Subject: Re: [VFB] Book For Sale > > > How much? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 21, 2012, at 2:36 PM, haerb...@comcast.net wrote: > > > > > > > I would like to sell this book. It is unread, mint condition limited edition > 81 out of a 107. > > Steelhead Fly Fishing On The Olympic Peninsula: The Color Of Winter > > By Doug Rose > > > BobH > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. > > To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en > > VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. > > To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en > > VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. > > To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en > > VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. > > To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en > > VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. > > To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en > > VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Book For Sale
Bob, I will purchase it if you have not sold it already.. Ron Boutin haerb...@comcast.net wrote: > hardcover embossed and numbered > > > BobH > > - Original Message - > From: "John" > To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 5:49:00 PM > Subject: Re: [VFB] Book For Sale > > > Is it a hardcover? What makes it a limited edition? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 21, 2012, at 5:31 PM, haerb...@comcast.net wrote: > > > > > > > $20 plus shipping > > > BobH > > - Original Message - > From: "John" < ridderb...@att.net > > To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 3:24:11 PM > Subject: Re: [VFB] Book For Sale > > > How much? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 21, 2012, at 2:36 PM, haerb...@comcast.net wrote: > > > > > > > I would like to sell this book. It is unread, mint condition limited edition > 81 out of a 107. > > Steelhead Fly Fishing On The Olympic Peninsula: The Color Of Winter > > By Doug Rose > > > BobH > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. > > To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en > > VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. > > To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en > > VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. > > To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en > > VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. > > To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en > > VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. > > To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en > > VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Book For Sale
hardcover embossed and numbered BobH - Original Message - From: "John" To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 5:49:00 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] Book For Sale Is it a hardcover? What makes it a limited edition? Sent from my iPhone On May 21, 2012, at 5:31 PM, haerb...@comcast.net wrote: $20 plus shipping BobH - Original Message - From: "John" < ridderb...@att.net > To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 3:24:11 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] Book For Sale How much? Sent from my iPhone On May 21, 2012, at 2:36 PM, haerb...@comcast.net wrote: I would like to sell this book. It is unread, mint condition limited edition 81 out of a 107. Steelhead Fly Fishing On The Olympic Peninsula: The Color Of Winter By Doug Rose BobH -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Book For Sale
Is it a hardcover? What makes it a limited edition? Sent from my iPhone On May 21, 2012, at 5:31 PM, haerb...@comcast.net wrote: > $20 plus shipping > > BobH > > From: "John" > To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 3:24:11 PM > Subject: Re: [VFB] Book For Sale > > How much? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 21, 2012, at 2:36 PM, haerb...@comcast.net wrote: > > I would like to sell this book. It is unread, mint condition limited edition > 81 out of a 107. > > Steelhead Fly Fishing On The Olympic Peninsula: The Color Of Winter > > By Doug Rose > > BobH > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. > > To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en > > VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. > > To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en > > VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. > > To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en > > VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Book For Sale
$20 plus shipping BobH - Original Message - From: "John" To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 3:24:11 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] Book For Sale How much? Sent from my iPhone On May 21, 2012, at 2:36 PM, haerb...@comcast.net wrote: I would like to sell this book. It is unread, mint condition limited edition 81 out of a 107. Steelhead Fly Fishing On The Olympic Peninsula: The Color Of Winter By Doug Rose BobH -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Book For Sale
How much? Sent from my iPhone On May 21, 2012, at 2:36 PM, haerb...@comcast.net wrote: > I would like to sell this book. It is unread, mint condition limited edition > 81 out of a 107. > > Steelhead Fly Fishing On The Olympic Peninsula: The Color Of Winter > > By Doug Rose > > BobH > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. > > To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en > > VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
[VFB] Book For Sale
I would like to sell this book. It is unread, mint condition limited edition 81 out of a 107. Steelhead Fly Fishing On The Olympic Peninsula: The Color Of Winter By Doug Rose BobH -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Book recommendation
Thanks Wes - now I have some of the patterns he referred to in his book in easy reach. Mike On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Wes Wada wrote: > Hi Mike, > > Ralph Cutter is a favorite writer here also. I was reading the Fish Food > book this morning. Ralph writes a column for each issue of the California > Fly Fisher magazine. The Fish Food book is a collection of past articles. > > Many of Cutter's observations about aquatic insects and fish feeding > behavior are based upon many hours underwater using scuba gear and snorkel > equipment. Direct observation makes his opinions particularly interesting. > > For example, one of his favorite techniques is to rub powdered fly dryer > (like Shimazaki Dry Shake) into natural fibers in flies like the Bird's > Nest. That creates a bubble sheath around the fly that matches naturals > very well. > > You can see more of Ralph and Lisa Cutter's works here. > http://www.flyline.com/ > > > Wes Wada > Bend, Oregon > > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 3:45 PM, Michael Bliss wrote: > >> I am just completing a book called Fish Food by Ralph Cutter. It is a >> common man's book on entomology in the streams and lakes. The author is >> very witty and fun to read. I have very much enjoyed the book. I think I >> will go back now and skim it for his ideas and pattern suggestions. If you >> are looking for this type of read I recommend it highly. >> >> Mike >> >> -- >> Mike Bliss >> Aloha from Hawaii >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" >> group. >> >> To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en >> >> VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" > group. > > To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en > > VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- Mike Bliss Aloha from Hawaii -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Book recommendation
Hi Mike, Ralph Cutter is a favorite writer here also. I was reading the Fish Food book this morning. Ralph writes a column for each issue of the California Fly Fisher magazine. The Fish Food book is a collection of past articles. Many of Cutter's observations about aquatic insects and fish feeding behavior are based upon many hours underwater using scuba gear and snorkel equipment. Direct observation makes his opinions particularly interesting. For example, one of his favorite techniques is to rub powdered fly dryer (like Shimazaki Dry Shake) into natural fibers in flies like the Bird's Nest. That creates a bubble sheath around the fly that matches naturals very well. You can see more of Ralph and Lisa Cutter's works here. http://www.flyline.com/ Wes Wada Bend, Oregon On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 3:45 PM, Michael Bliss wrote: > I am just completing a book called Fish Food by Ralph Cutter. It is a > common man's book on entomology in the streams and lakes. The author is > very witty and fun to read. I have very much enjoyed the book. I think I > will go back now and skim it for his ideas and pattern suggestions. If you > are looking for this type of read I recommend it highly. > > Mike > > -- > Mike Bliss > Aloha from Hawaii > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" > group. > > To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en > > VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject.
[VFB] Book recommendation
I am just completing a book called Fish Food by Ralph Cutter. It is a common man's book on entomology in the streams and lakes. The author is very witty and fun to read. I have very much enjoyed the book. I think I will go back now and skim it for his ideas and pattern suggestions. If you are looking for this type of read I recommend it highly. Mike -- Mike Bliss Aloha from Hawaii -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject.
Re: [VFB] book & comments, DVDs, Zap-a-gap, WD-40
Thank you,
Alan Di Somma
Why is it that at class reunions you feel younger than everyone else looks?
http://www.azflyfishing.net/
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From: Don Ordes
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Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 9:43 AM
Subject: Re: [VFB] book & comments, DVDs, Zap-a-gap, WD-40
Joyce, that info helps out a lot.
1. I saw the photos of what he was doing and you seem right on. Just
extended furled fiber-tails with lots of different flies applied.
Once anyone gets the rope dub down pat, the furling is another open door to
some cool applications, not just another tail on the fly. I wish I could tell
you all of the applications, but I'd be telling y'all what's on DVD #2. ;o)
What I can say is that anything that will rope-dub will also furl (within
useable limits), with thread core, mono core, wire core, or bite tippet core.
Also, all of your dubbing materials, synthetics, furs, fibers, peacock, etc.,
become materials for furls.
One hint (which I've attached photos on)- chopped up dubbing, like that green
lamb's wool, will rope and furl and make great fuzzy, soft, flexible
caterpillars, as thick as you want them and very durable (and tapered if you
want). If you rope-dub on light wire, you can shape the 'pillar into a curl or
bend that's not on the hook itself, and it will still be very flexible to the
fish for feel, and still dense and 'fleshy'.
2. Looks like DVD#2 will turn out almost like DVD#1- so many techniques, not
enough space/time to do patterns and recipes.
I'm saw that some DVD's for sale that were in much longer format that the one
I did. I'm checking into it to make sure the quality is the same.
Do you guys think a 2, 3, 4 hour DVD#2 (for the same price) would be agood
idea, sine it can be indexed like #1? Then I could do all of the techhniques
and show lots of rope-dub finishing techniques to graduate into the fly bodies.
Securing the rope-bodies to the hook was a problem for one guy at the show, so
I showed him about 4 ways to secure the fly to a slick hook (shiny plated
saltwater hooks are very slick). Which brings up item #3:
That is a great idea Don. I was wishing that there was more on the first DVD.
Don't get me wrong, I loved it and learned a lot. I could sit and watch for a
longer period of time. I especially like the way it is indexed. If you make the
next DVD a few hours, I'm sure no one would be disapointed or tired of watching.
3. Dave Whitlock has a new DVD out about using Zap-a-gap on flies. He gave
me one, but I haven't had the chance to look at it yet. He got with the Z-A-G
company and made up little applicator bottles specially designed for fly-tiers.
I have about 4 of them so far, and I'm thinking uf using it for anchoring
flies that tend to slip backwards on the new very slick hooks. Don't have much
problems with the old bronzed Mustads- rougher finish.
Dave Whitlock uses the ZAG instead of whip finishing on the flies that I saw
him tie. He also recomends taking a file and scoring a notch on the top side of
a hook before tying on dumbell eyes for a Clouser Minnow and then using ZAG.
4. I've used Super-glue gel for my big deceiver flies to attach the eyes,
but they seemed to have a smell long after the glue dried. So I seal all the
heads and eyes with vinyl cement, which makes them more durable and seals in
the SG smell. The vinyl cement has no detectable smell after two weeks.
Do you have that smell after a couple of weeks with the ZAG?
My lure-fishing experience tell me to give them a shot of WD-40 before
fishing, to hide the human scents, but not to 'flavor' the fly (illegal in many
areas). It works with Mackinaw trolling flies, so it should work with trout
through marlin flies also. Oil-related smells permeate the water- so fish are
used to smelling them. Problem is, some fly materials react to the oil, and
then degrade. Don't know which ones they are until it's too late. Add that to
materials reacting to the sun and salt, and many materials just don't hold up
in the real world- especially holographic streamer fibers.
DonO
- Original Message -
From: Joyce Westphal
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 4:25 AM
Subject: Re: [VFB] book
I have it and it is OK, not spectacular and I would not buy it again. You
can get the same information on the internet free of charge. Of course, he only
talks about furled flies and after you learn the technique, all the flies look
the same, just different colors of furled thread tails. Don't know if this
helps. Joyce
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 8:26 PM, The Smiths wrote:
Does anyone have any knowledge of a Paper back byKen Hanley titled Tying
Furled Flies?
Gary S.
--
You rec
Re: [VFB] book & comments, DVDs, Zap-a-gap, WD-40
You should archive this email under 'Sticky-notes'. New phrase: 'A stick in time saves twine.' Coachmen are green, BWOs are blue, Save on knots, use more glue. Dr. D chimes in... - Original Message - From: "J Balmer" To: Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 1:35 PM Subject: RE: [VFB] book & comments, DVDs, Zap-a-gap, WD-40 And I thought it was ME stuck in the middle of the corn... -Original Message- From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Don Ordes Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 12:48 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] book & comments, DVDs, Zap-a-gap, WD-40 I don't know, Tony, Peggy... When you have a schtik like that, you could get sticky fingers. So are Dick and Dave bonding now? I heard it was slow starting, but they stuck it out. Should I become an adherent of CAs also? I'll 'tie' a fly without thread, that is all glued together. What to call it...hmmm... 'Super-Gluey-Louie'?, the '007 Special (James Bond)?, British- 'Sticky Wickett'? , 'Zap-happy' (smelling the fumes too long)? ... Buggs - Original Message - From: "Peggy Brenner" To: Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 11:28 AM Subject: Re: [VFB] book & comments, DVDs, Zap-a-gap, WD-40 Dick Telaur has a presentation he is is doing at the Fly Fishing Shows and clubs this year, and he says Dave is distributor for Pace, the maker of Zap A Gap. They make lots of adhesives for industry as well. It has lots of flies with a hit of Zap on each. I'm not sure what deal Dick has is, but there has to be a buck for him somewhere in there. Peggy Don Ordes wrote: Joyce, that info helps out a lot. *3.* Dave Whitlock has a new DVD out about using Zap-a-gap on flies. He gave me one, but I haven't had the chance to look at it yet. He got with the Z-A-G company and made up little applicator bottles specially designed for fly-tiers. I have about 4 of them so far, and I'm thinking uf using it for anchoring flies that tend to slip backwards on the new very slick hooks. Don't have much problems with the old bronzed Mustads- rougher finish. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
RE: [VFB] book & comments, DVDs, Zap-a-gap, WD-40
And I thought it was ME stuck in the middle of the corn... -Original Message- From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Don Ordes Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 12:48 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] book & comments, DVDs, Zap-a-gap, WD-40 I don't know, Tony, Peggy... When you have a schtik like that, you could get sticky fingers. So are Dick and Dave bonding now? I heard it was slow starting, but they stuck it out. Should I become an adherent of CAs also? I'll 'tie' a fly without thread, that is all glued together. What to call it...hmmm... 'Super-Gluey-Louie'?, the '007 Special (James Bond)?, British- 'Sticky Wickett'? , 'Zap-happy' (smelling the fumes too long)? ... Buggs - Original Message - From: "Peggy Brenner" To: Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 11:28 AM Subject: Re: [VFB] book & comments, DVDs, Zap-a-gap, WD-40 > Dick Telaur has a presentation he is is doing at the Fly Fishing Shows and > clubs this year, and he says Dave is distributor for Pace, the maker of > Zap A Gap. They make lots of adhesives for industry as well. It has lots > of flies with a hit of Zap on each. > > I'm not sure what deal Dick has is, but there has to be a buck for him > somewhere in there. > > Peggy > > > Don Ordes wrote: >> Joyce, that info helps out a lot. > >> *3.* Dave Whitlock has a new DVD out about using Zap-a-gap on flies. He >> gave me one, but I haven't had the chance to look at it yet. He got with >> the Z-A-G company and made up little applicator bottles specially >> designed for fly-tiers. I have about 4 of them so far, and I'm thinking >> uf using it for anchoring flies that tend to slip backwards on the new >> very slick hooks. Don't have much problems with the old bronzed Mustads- >> rougher finish. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" > group. > > To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en > > VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
RE: [VFB] book & comments, DVDs, Zap-a-gap, WD-40
Easy to tell it's a Monday... -Original Message- From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Don Ordes Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 12:48 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] book & comments, DVDs, Zap-a-gap, WD-40 I don't know, Tony, Peggy... When you have a schtik like that, you could get sticky fingers. So are Dick and Dave bonding now? I heard it was slow starting, but they stuck it out. Should I become an adherent of CAs also? I'll 'tie' a fly without thread, that is all glued together. What to call it...hmmm... 'Super-Gluey-Louie'?, the '007 Special (James Bond)?, British- 'Sticky Wickett'? , 'Zap-happy' (smelling the fumes too long)? ... Buggs - Original Message - From: "Peggy Brenner" To: Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 11:28 AM Subject: Re: [VFB] book & comments, DVDs, Zap-a-gap, WD-40 > Dick Telaur has a presentation he is is doing at the Fly Fishing Shows and > clubs this year, and he says Dave is distributor for Pace, the maker of > Zap A Gap. They make lots of adhesives for industry as well. It has lots > of flies with a hit of Zap on each. > > I'm not sure what deal Dick has is, but there has to be a buck for him > somewhere in there. > > Peggy > > > Don Ordes wrote: >> Joyce, that info helps out a lot. > >> *3.* Dave Whitlock has a new DVD out about using Zap-a-gap on flies. He >> gave me one, but I haven't had the chance to look at it yet. He got with >> the Z-A-G company and made up little applicator bottles specially >> designed for fly-tiers. I have about 4 of them so far, and I'm thinking >> uf using it for anchoring flies that tend to slip backwards on the new >> very slick hooks. Don't have much problems with the old bronzed Mustads- >> rougher finish. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" > group. > > To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en > > VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] book & comments, DVDs, Zap-a-gap, WD-40
I am staying out of this, Dave is a close friend and Dick is also a friend but not as close as Dave. I have no idea as to what their dealing is and I have no reason to know. It is kind of a joke between Dave and I. Tony --- On Mon, 1/18/10, Don Ordes wrote: From: Don Ordes Subject: Re: [VFB] book & comments, DVDs, Zap-a-gap, WD-40 To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 12:47 PM I don't know, Tony, Peggy... When you have a schtik like that, you could get sticky fingers. So are Dick and Dave bonding now? I heard it was slow starting, but they stuck it out. Should I become an adherent of CAs also? I'll 'tie' a fly without thread, that is all glued together. What to call it...hmmm... 'Super-Gluey-Louie'?, the '007 Special (James Bond)?, British- 'Sticky Wickett'? , 'Zap-happy' (smelling the fumes too long)? ... Buggs - Original Message - From: "Peggy Brenner" To: Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 11:28 AM Subject: Re: [VFB] book & comments, DVDs, Zap-a-gap, WD-40 > Dick Telaur has a presentation he is is doing at the Fly Fishing Shows and > clubs this year, and he says Dave is distributor for Pace, the maker of Zap A > Gap. They make lots of adhesives for industry as well. It has lots of flies > with a hit of Zap on each. > > I'm not sure what deal Dick has is, but there has to be a buck for him > somewhere in there. > > Peggy > > > Don Ordes wrote: >> Joyce, that info helps out a lot. > >> *3.* Dave Whitlock has a new DVD out about using Zap-a-gap on flies. He >> gave me one, but I haven't had the chance to look at it yet. He got with >> the Z-A-G company and made up little applicator bottles specially designed >> for fly-tiers. I have about 4 of them so far, and I'm thinking uf using it >> for anchoring flies that tend to slip backwards on the new very slick >> hooks. Don't have much problems with the old bronzed Mustads- rougher >> finish. >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" > group. > > To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en > > VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] book & comments, DVDs, Zap-a-gap, WD-40
I don't know, Tony, Peggy... When you have a schtik like that, you could get sticky fingers. So are Dick and Dave bonding now? I heard it was slow starting, but they stuck it out. Should I become an adherent of CAs also? I'll 'tie' a fly without thread, that is all glued together. What to call it...hmmm... 'Super-Gluey-Louie'?, the '007 Special (James Bond)?, British- 'Sticky Wickett'? , 'Zap-happy' (smelling the fumes too long)? ... Buggs - Original Message - From: "Peggy Brenner" To: Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 11:28 AM Subject: Re: [VFB] book & comments, DVDs, Zap-a-gap, WD-40 Dick Telaur has a presentation he is is doing at the Fly Fishing Shows and clubs this year, and he says Dave is distributor for Pace, the maker of Zap A Gap. They make lots of adhesives for industry as well. It has lots of flies with a hit of Zap on each. I'm not sure what deal Dick has is, but there has to be a buck for him somewhere in there. Peggy Don Ordes wrote: Joyce, that info helps out a lot. *3.* Dave Whitlock has a new DVD out about using Zap-a-gap on flies. He gave me one, but I haven't had the chance to look at it yet. He got with the Z-A-G company and made up little applicator bottles specially designed for fly-tiers. I have about 4 of them so far, and I'm thinking uf using it for anchoring flies that tend to slip backwards on the new very slick hooks. Don't have much problems with the old bronzed Mustads- rougher finish. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] book & comments, DVDs, Zap-a-gap, WD-40
Dick Telaur has a presentation he is is doing at the Fly Fishing Shows and clubs this year, and he says Dave is distributor for Pace, the maker of Zap A Gap. They make lots of adhesives for industry as well. It has lots of flies with a hit of Zap on each. I'm not sure what deal Dick has is, but there has to be a buck for him somewhere in there. Peggy Don Ordes wrote: Joyce, that info helps out a lot. *3.* Dave Whitlock has a new DVD out about using Zap-a-gap on flies. He gave me one, but I haven't had the chance to look at it yet. He got with the Z-A-G company and made up little applicator bottles specially designed for fly-tiers. I have about 4 of them so far, and I'm thinking uf using it for anchoring flies that tend to slip backwards on the new very slick hooks. Don't have much problems with the old bronzed Mustads- rougher finish. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] book & comments, DVDs, Zap-a-gap, WD-40
Yes it is an LOL I keep teasing Dave about it, have been for years. Sorry if it came through any other way. It was meant as a joke. Dave is a good friend to all of us. Tony --- On Mon, 1/18/10, Don Ordes wrote: From: Don Ordes Subject: Re: [VFB] book & comments, DVDs, Zap-a-gap, WD-40 To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 11:23 AM Tony, Is that an 'LOL'? If that is so, is it a 'conflict of interest' to be hawking/selling it as a stockholder? How does it work? If I bought stock in Whiting, Flex-O, Mc Flyfoam, etc., can I still hawk their products? DonO - Original Message - From: Anthony Spezio To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 9:54 AM Subject: Re: [VFB] book & comments, DVDs, Zap-a-gap, WD-40 Don, I accuse Dave of having stock in Zap A Gap. Got a couple of sample bottles from him at the Smallmouth show in Oklahoma last May. I have been told he will be at the Sowbug in March. Tony --- On Mon, 1/18/10, Don Ordes wrote: From: Don Ordes Subject: Re: [VFB] book & comments, DVDs, Zap-a-gap, WD-40 To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 10:43 AM Joyce, that info helps out a lot. 1. I saw the photos of what he was doing and you seem right on. Just extended furled fiber-tails with lots of different flies applied. Once anyone gets the rope dub down pat, the furling is another open door to some cool applications, not just another tail on the fly. I wish I could tell you all of the applications, but I'd be telling y'all what's on DVD #2. ;o) What I can say is that anything that will rope-dub will also furl (within useable limits), with thread core, mono core, wire core, or bite tippet core. Also, all of your dubbing materials, synthetics, furs, fibers, peacock, etc., become materials for furls. One hint (which I've attached photos on)- chopped up dubbing, like that green lamb's wool, will rope and furl and make great fuzzy, soft, flexible caterpillars, as thick as you want them and very durable (and tapered if you want). If you rope-dub on light wire, you can shape the 'pillar into a curl or bend that's not on the hook itself, and it will still be very flexible to the fish for feel, and still dense and 'fleshy'. 2. Looks like DVD#2 will turn out almost like DVD#1- so many techniques, not enough space/time to do patterns and recipes. I'm saw that some DVD's for sale that were in much longer format that the one I did. I'm checking into it to make sure the quality is the same. Do you guys think a 2, 3, 4 hour DVD#2 (for the same price) would be agood idea, sine it can be indexed like #1? Then I could do all of the techhniques and show lots of rope-dub finishing techniques to graduate into the fly bodies. Securing the rope-bodies to the hook was a problem for one guy at the show, so I showed him about 4 ways to secure the fly to a slick hook (shiny plated saltwater hooks are very slick). Which brings up item #3: 3. Dave Whitlock has a new DVD out about using Zap-a-gap on flies. He gave me one, but I haven't had the chance to look at it yet. He got with the Z-A-G company and made up little applicator bottles specially designed for fly-tiers. I have about 4 of them so far, and I'm thinking uf using it for anchoring flies that tend to slip backwards on the new very slick hooks. Don't have much problems with the old bronzed Mustads- rougher finish. 4. I've used Super-glue gel for my big deceiver flies to attach the eyes, but they seemed to have a smell long after the glue dried. So I seal all the heads and eyes with vinyl cement, which makes them more durable and seals in the SG smell. The vinyl cement has no detectable smell after two weeks. My lure-fishing experience tell me to give them a shot of WD-40 before fishing, to hide the human scents, but not to 'flavor' the fly (illegal in many areas). It works with Mackinaw trolling flies, so it should work with trout through marlin flies also. Oil-related smells permeate
Re: [VFB] book & comments, DVDs, Zap-a-gap, WD-40
Tony,
Is that an 'LOL'?
If that is so, is it a 'conflict of interest' to be hawking/selling it as a
stockholder?
How does it work? If I bought stock in Whiting, Flex-O, Mc Flyfoam, etc., can
I still hawk their products?
DonO
- Original Message -
From: Anthony Spezio
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 9:54 AM
Subject: Re: [VFB] book & comments, DVDs, Zap-a-gap, WD-40
Don,
I accuse Dave of having stock in Zap A Gap. Got a couple of sample
bottles from him at the Smallmouth show in Oklahoma last May. I have been told
he will be at the Sowbug in March.
Tony
--- On Mon, 1/18/10, Don Ordes wrote:
From: Don Ordes
Subject: Re: [VFB] book & comments, DVDs, Zap-a-gap, WD-40
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 10:43 AM
Joyce, that info helps out a lot.
1. I saw the photos of what he was doing and you seem right on.
Just extended furled fiber-tails with lots of different flies applied.
Once anyone gets the rope dub down pat, the furling is another open
door to some cool applications, not just another tail on the fly. I wish I
could tell you all of the applications, but I'd be telling y'all what's on DVD
#2. ;o)
What I can say is that anything that will rope-dub will also furl
(within useable limits), with thread core, mono core, wire core, or bite
tippet core. Also, all of your dubbing materials, synthetics, furs, fibers,
peacock, etc., become materials for furls.
One hint (which I've attached photos on)- chopped up dubbing, like
that green lamb's wool, will rope and furl and make great fuzzy, soft, flexible
caterpillars, as thick as you want them and very durable (and tapered if you
want). If you rope-dub on light wire, you can shape the 'pillar into a curl or
bend that's not on the hook itself, and it will still be very flexible to the
fish for feel, and still dense and 'fleshy'.
2. Looks like DVD#2 will turn out almost like DVD#1- so many
techniques, not enough space/time to do patterns and recipes.
I'm saw that some DVD's for sale that were in much longer format that
the one I did. I'm checking into it to make sure the quality is the same.
Do you guys think a 2, 3, 4 hour DVD#2 (for the same price) would be
agood idea, sine it can be indexed like #1? Then I could do all of the
techhniques and show lots of rope-dub finishing techniques to graduate into the
fly bodies. Securing the rope-bodies to the hook was a problem for one guy at
the show, so I showed him about 4 ways to secure the fly to a slick hook (shiny
plated saltwater hooks are very slick). Which brings up item #3:
3. Dave Whitlock has a new DVD out about using Zap-a-gap on flies.
He gave me one, but I haven't had the chance to look at it yet. He got with
the Z-A-G company and made up little applicator bottles specially designed for
fly-tiers. I have about 4 of them so far, and I'm thinking uf using it for
anchoring flies that tend to slip backwards on the new very slick hooks. Don't
have much problems with the old bronzed Mustads- rougher finish.
4. I've used Super-glue gel for my big deceiver flies to attach the
eyes, but they seemed to have a smell long after the glue dried. So I seal all
the heads and eyes with vinyl cement, which makes them more durable and seals
in the SG smell. The vinyl cement has no detectable smell after two weeks.
My lure-fishing experience tell me to give them a shot of WD-40
before fishing, to hide the human scents, but not to 'flavor' the fly (illegal
in many areas). It works with Mackinaw trolling flies, so it should work with
trout through marlin flies also. Oil-related smells permeate the water- so
fish are used to smelling them. Problem is, some fly materials react to the
oil, and then degrade. Don't know which ones they are until it's too late.
Add that to materials reacting to the sun and salt, and many materials just
don't hold up in the real world- especially holographic streamer fibers.
DonO
- Original Message -
From: Joyce Westphal
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 4:25 AM
Subject: Re: [VFB] book
I have it and it is OK, not spectacular and I would not buy it
again. You can get the same information on the internet free of charge. Of
course, he only talks about furled flies and after you learn the technique, all
the flies look the same, just different colors of furled thread tails. Don't
know if this helps. Joyce
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 8:26 PM, The Smiths
wrote:
Does anyone have any
Re: [VFB] book & comments, DVDs, Zap-a-gap, WD-40
Don, I accuse Dave of having stock in Zap A Gap. Got a couple of sample bottles from him at the Smallmouth show in Oklahoma last May. I have been told he will be at the Sowbug in March. Tony --- On Mon, 1/18/10, Don Ordes wrote: From: Don Ordes Subject: Re: [VFB] book & comments, DVDs, Zap-a-gap, WD-40 To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 10:43 AM Joyce, that info helps out a lot. 1. I saw the photos of what he was doing and you seem right on. Just extended furled fiber-tails with lots of different flies applied. Once anyone gets the rope dub down pat, the furling is another open door to some cool applications, not just another tail on the fly. I wish I could tell you all of the applications, but I'd be telling y'all what's on DVD #2. ;o) What I can say is that anything that will rope-dub will also furl (within useable limits), with thread core, mono core, wire core, or bite tippet core. Also, all of your dubbing materials, synthetics, furs, fibers, peacock, etc., become materials for furls. One hint (which I've attached photos on)- chopped up dubbing, like that green lamb's wool, will rope and furl and make great fuzzy, soft, flexible caterpillars, as thick as you want them and very durable (and tapered if you want). If you rope-dub on light wire, you can shape the 'pillar into a curl or bend that's not on the hook itself, and it will still be very flexible to the fish for feel, and still dense and 'fleshy'. 2. Looks like DVD#2 will turn out almost like DVD#1- so many techniques, not enough space/time to do patterns and recipes. I'm saw that some DVD's for sale that were in much longer format that the one I did. I'm checking into it to make sure the quality is the same. Do you guys think a 2, 3, 4 hour DVD#2 (for the same price) would be agood idea, sine it can be indexed like #1? Then I could do all of the techhniques and show lots of rope-dub finishing techniques to graduate into the fly bodies. Securing the rope-bodies to the hook was a problem for one guy at the show, so I showed him about 4 ways to secure the fly to a slick hook (shiny plated saltwater hooks are very slick). Which brings up item #3: 3. Dave Whitlock has a new DVD out about using Zap-a-gap on flies. He gave me one, but I haven't had the chance to look at it yet. He got with the Z-A-G company and made up little applicator bottles specially designed for fly-tiers. I have about 4 of them so far, and I'm thinking uf using it for anchoring flies that tend to slip backwards on the new very slick hooks. Don't have much problems with the old bronzed Mustads- rougher finish. 4. I've used Super-glue gel for my big deceiver flies to attach the eyes, but they seemed to have a smell long after the glue dried. So I seal all the heads and eyes with vinyl cement, which makes them more durable and seals in the SG smell. The vinyl cement has no detectable smell after two weeks. My lure-fishing experience tell me to give them a shot of WD-40 before fishing, to hide the human scents, but not to 'flavor' the fly (illegal in many areas). It works with Mackinaw trolling flies, so it should work with trout through marlin flies also. Oil-related smells permeate the water- so fish are used to smelling them. Problem is, some fly materials react to the oil, and then degrade. Don't know which ones they are until it's too late. Add that to materials reacting to the sun and salt, and many materials just don't hold up in the real world- especially holographic streamer fibers. DonO - Original Message - From: Joyce Westphal To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 4:25 AM Subject: Re: [VFB] book I have it and it is OK, not spectacular and I would not buy it again. You can get the same information on the internet free of charge. Of course, he only talks about furled flies and after you learn the technique, all the flies look the same, just different colors of furled thread tails. Don't know if this helps. Joyce On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 8:26 PM, The Smiths wrote: Does anyone have any knowledge of a Paper back byKen Hanley titled Tying Furled Flies? Gary S. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail
Re: [VFB] book & comments, DVDs, Zap-a-gap, WD-40
Joyce, that info helps out a lot. 1. I saw the photos of what he was doing and you seem right on. Just extended furled fiber-tails with lots of different flies applied. Once anyone gets the rope dub down pat, the furling is another open door to some cool applications, not just another tail on the fly. I wish I could tell you all of the applications, but I'd be telling y'all what's on DVD #2. ;o) What I can say is that anything that will rope-dub will also furl (within useable limits), with thread core, mono core, wire core, or bite tippet core. Also, all of your dubbing materials, synthetics, furs, fibers, peacock, etc., become materials for furls. One hint (which I've attached photos on)- chopped up dubbing, like that green lamb's wool, will rope and furl and make great fuzzy, soft, flexible caterpillars, as thick as you want them and very durable (and tapered if you want). If you rope-dub on light wire, you can shape the 'pillar into a curl or bend that's not on the hook itself, and it will still be very flexible to the fish for feel, and still dense and 'fleshy'. 2. Looks like DVD#2 will turn out almost like DVD#1- so many techniques, not enough space/time to do patterns and recipes. I'm saw that some DVD's for sale that were in much longer format that the one I did. I'm checking into it to make sure the quality is the same. Do you guys think a 2, 3, 4 hour DVD#2 (for the same price) would be agood idea, sine it can be indexed like #1? Then I could do all of the techhniques and show lots of rope-dub finishing techniques to graduate into the fly bodies. Securing the rope-bodies to the hook was a problem for one guy at the show, so I showed him about 4 ways to secure the fly to a slick hook (shiny plated saltwater hooks are very slick). Which brings up item #3: 3. Dave Whitlock has a new DVD out about using Zap-a-gap on flies. He gave me one, but I haven't had the chance to look at it yet. He got with the Z-A-G company and made up little applicator bottles specially designed for fly-tiers. I have about 4 of them so far, and I'm thinking uf using it for anchoring flies that tend to slip backwards on the new very slick hooks. Don't have much problems with the old bronzed Mustads- rougher finish. 4. I've used Super-glue gel for my big deceiver flies to attach the eyes, but they seemed to have a smell long after the glue dried. So I seal all the heads and eyes with vinyl cement, which makes them more durable and seals in the SG smell. The vinyl cement has no detectable smell after two weeks. My lure-fishing experience tell me to give them a shot of WD-40 before fishing, to hide the human scents, but not to 'flavor' the fly (illegal in many areas). It works with Mackinaw trolling flies, so it should work with trout through marlin flies also. Oil-related smells permeate the water- so fish are used to smelling them. Problem is, some fly materials react to the oil, and then degrade. Don't know which ones they are until it's too late. Add that to materials reacting to the sun and salt, and many materials just don't hold up in the real world- especially holographic streamer fibers. DonO - Original Message - From: Joyce Westphal To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 4:25 AM Subject: Re: [VFB] book I have it and it is OK, not spectacular and I would not buy it again. You can get the same information on the internet free of charge. Of course, he only talks about furled flies and after you learn the technique, all the flies look the same, just different colors of furled thread tails. Don't know if this helps. Joyce On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 8:26 PM, The Smiths wrote: Does anyone have any knowledge of a Paper back byKen Hanley titled Tying Furled Flies? Gary S. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to thi
Re: [VFB] book
I have it and it is OK, not spectacular and I would not buy it again. You can get the same information on the internet free of charge. Of course, he only talks about furled flies and after you learn the technique, all the flies look the same, just different colors of furled thread tails. Don't know if this helps. Joyce On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 8:26 PM, The Smiths wrote: > Does anyone have any knowledge of a Paper back byKen Hanley titled Tying > Furled Flies? > Gary S. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" > group. > > To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en > > VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] book
Going to the Somerset fly fishing show this weekend. Should be hyped up and
wanting to try new things when I get home. plus a new flat screen should do it.
Gary S.
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That's OK.
Once you get a chance to watch it, you'll see how to furl a fly using the
rope-dub on thread or wire.
DonO
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Thanks Don
What I was looking for was someone who has read the book. The publishers
hype never has anything bad to say about their books.
Haven't had time to view your DVD yet, tearing my lib and tying room
apart and slowly putting it back together. Plus my tying room TV crapped out
on me, Just has green and blue colors. Time for a small flat screen. YES!
Gary S.
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I Googled it up- there are a ton of references to it, sources, pictures,
etc. It's new, 2008. $17.00 or so.
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Re: [VFB] book
That's OK.
Once you get a chance to watch it, you'll see how to furl a fly using the
rope-dub on thread or wire.
DonO
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Thanks Don
What I was looking for was someone who has read the book. The publishers
hype never has anything bad to say about their books.
Haven't had time to view your DVD yet, tearing my lib and tying room apart
and slowly putting it back together. Plus my tying room TV crapped out on me,
Just has green and blue colors. Time for a small flat screen. YES!
Gary S.
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Subject: Re: [VFB] book
I Googled it up- there are a ton of references to it, sources, pictures,
etc. It's new, 2008. $17.00 or so.
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Does anyone have any knowledge of a Paper back byKen Hanley titled Tying
Furled Flies?
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Re: [VFB] book
Thanks Don What I was looking for was someone who has read the book. The publishers hype never has anything bad to say about their books. Haven't had time to view your DVD yet, tearing my lib and tying room apart and slowly putting it back together. Plus my tying room TV crapped out on me, Just has green and blue colors. Time for a small flat screen. YES! Gary S. - Original Message - From: Don Ordes To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 10:55 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] book I Googled it up- there are a ton of references to it, sources, pictures, etc. It's new, 2008. $17.00 or so. - Original Message - From: The Smiths To: flyfishingandflytyingforpanf...@yahoogroups.com ; vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 8:26 PM Subject: [VFB] book Does anyone have any knowledge of a Paper back byKen Hanley titled Tying Furled Flies? Gary S. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] book
I Googled it up- there are a ton of references to it, sources, pictures, etc. It's new, 2008. $17.00 or so. - Original Message - From: The Smiths To: flyfishingandflytyingforpanf...@yahoogroups.com ; vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 8:26 PM Subject: [VFB] book Does anyone have any knowledge of a Paper back byKen Hanley titled Tying Furled Flies? Gary S. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
[VFB] book
Does anyone have any knowledge of a Paper back byKen Hanley titled Tying Furled Flies? Gary S.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
[VFB] Book for sale
I have a new copy of "Rod Crafting" by Jeffrey Hatton that I would like to sell for $20. I will pay shipping. Thank you, Alan Di Somma Why is it that at class reunions you feel younger than everyone else looks? http://www.azflyfishing.net/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Book Wanted
Folks: I am looking for a book on production fly tying at a reasonable price.(Or trade, as I have some pretty good , rare trout books) Author don't actually matter I guess, although I'm partial to AK Best (I think he has a production tying book out) I don't actually want to do production fly tying, but always wanted to know how it's done. Contact me OFFlist. Thanks, Chuck Please see our fly fishing hand made furled leaders at: http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/you_wear_it_well_W0QQ_nkwZQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZQQ_ipgZ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] book
Mark Sends May your GOD be your fishing partner. sent first.but as i sometimes do.forgot to also send to Jim...scroll down From: markflie...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [VFB] QFTD Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 21:25:03 -0600 Gary, i just came upstairs for dinnerwe ate a bit late tonight..when i go back down soon.or as soon as i can.i'll get the info. But i think Wes may have the right one there. If there was a pic at that site, i could tell you in a second. Anyway.i volunteered to fix cherries for us at 12:30 a.m. so some time after that you'll have the info. Couple hours from now..Central time of course. Later From: aflyt...@comcast.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: FW: [VFB] QFTD Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 22:32:11 -0400 Ok its not the book, which is readily available but the rareness of the edition which determines the price. Gary S. -snip- --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] book
Mark Sends May your GOD be your fishing partner. That's it alright. We got it in '95 i think it wasa Gang of the Juliana girls (Misa included), outta Manhattan, all went up to the Miramachi in New Brunswhich(sp?).for a Salmon fishin' trip. They stayed at Pond's resort..and i think it was one of those girls that gave the book to Misa for a gift...or somethin' like that. i remember we all got together, (the same gang of girls and their better halves), for a dinner party in Philly exactly one year later to hang out. And they served this one and only Grisle, that one of them had caught on the trip.flash frozen and brought home on dry ice. Somebody did somethin' to it with lemon juice and we all ate it, as an appitizer. was GOOD too...although i felt a bit quilty eating something that should of been returned to the waterbut what's a fella to do? It was already dead. i remember being inspired that night in Philly too.because the guy who was the husband of the lady who's house we ate at, took us up to his tyin'/tackle room and showed us all kinna cool "Stuff." That was when i decided i hadda have a tyin' room, lmao. M DAMN, i love cherries... Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 17:26:55 -0700 Subject: Re: FW: [VFB] QFTD From: wada@gmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com This kind of looks like the one...? http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=717954482&searchurl=an%3DBERNERS%252C%2BDame%2BJuliana.%26bsi%3D60 Wes Wad Bend, Oregon -snip- --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Book question
Would anyone in the group have any humorous books about the outdoors that they would like to contribute to our "Christmas for OUR Troops" project? If so, please contact me off list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and mail to; Jimi PO Box 192 Lakewood, NM 88254 We have passed 807 names and APO's as of this morning. If anyone has any names or APO's please get them to me so they can get a care package. I will be headed down to the packing point December 1, so if you can, please try to get anything to me before Thanksgiving. Or if you need to you can call me at 575-457-2508. Thanks everyone, and hope you enjoyed a great Veterans Day. Jimi USCG ITWPATWT 100% Vet --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
