Re: [VFB] How does jig thread compare in diameter with 6/0 or 3/0?
Yeah, money, money, money... Always the bottom line in business... And yeah, the 14/0 is heavier than the 10/0. The 14/0 feels about like my Danville 8/0 or 6/0. Chuck - Original Message - From: Anthony Spezio To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 3:16 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] How does jig thread compare in diameter with 6/0 or 3/0? They still make tons of thread but not all for tying. My contact there said they did not have enough sales for Fly Tying thread is why they dropped the Pro staff and got out of tying materials . Tying thread is waxed, sewing thread is not waxed. They also make a load of medical materials. Making thread for tyers was not economical. Money is the big thing. I have been told they are making tying thread for Orvis under contract. The reason you can use 14/0 over 10/0 is the 14/0 is a heavier thread. You can't go by the number. Tony --- On Tue, 3/2/10, Chuck Alexander wrote: From: Chuck Alexander Subject: Re: [VFB] How does jig thread compare in diameter with 6/0 or 3/0? To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, March 2, 2010, 2:29 PM I wish thread companies would all go to the denier system. You're right. I can't hardly tie using Guderbrod 10/0, cause it's soo tiny, but I have no problems with the Griffin's 14/0. Something else that's weird (to me anyway) about Guderbrod. They STILL make TONS of thread (unless they JUST stopped) My wife worked at the sewing factory near here and they use Guderbrod thread to make ALL the high dollar Jos A Bank men's dress suits. - Original Message - From: Anthony Spezio To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 4:41 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] How does jig thread compare in diameter with 6/0 or 3/0? Not all the same numbers are the same size. For example, the Gudebrod 10/0 was thinner that the 14/0, I think it was an Italian thread. U hear the 10/0 us being exclusively made for Orvis. For me, it was the best thread I have tied with. Tony --- On Mon, 3/1/10, Allan Fish wrote: From: Allan Fish Subject: Re: [VFB] How does jig thread compare in diameter with 6/0 or 3/0? To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, March 1, 2010, 8:33 AM > A quick question. Thanks. > > How does jig thread compare in diameter with 6/0 or 3/0? The link goes to a page selling jig thread which mentions it is a size A. Size A is supposed to be fine (not heavy), but how does it compare in diameter to 6/0 or 3/0 tying thread? The word "fine" is what throws you off. It's "Fine" for rod building thread. But it's several times the diameter of 3/0 thread. Put in simple terms, it's much heavier than fly tying thread. Well, maybe it's about the size of the Kevlar thread that's used for tying deer hair. I'm glad to see that we are starting to use actual measurements (70 denier, 140 denier, etc.) instead of letters. When we use thread designations of 3/0, 8/0, A, D, etc., we're still working in confusion like we were back in the days of "HGH" designations for fly lines. a. -- Allan Fish Greenwood, IN afi...@sbcglobal.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2717 - Release Date: 03/01/10 13:34:00
Re: [VFB] How does jig thread compare in diameter with 6/0 or 3/0?
They still make tons of thread but not all for tying. My contact there said they did not have enough sales for Fly Tying thread is why they dropped the Pro staff and got out of tying materials . Tying thread is waxed, sewing thread is not waxed. They also make a load of medical materials. Making thread for tyers was not economical. Money is the big thing. I have been told they are making tying thread for Orvis under contract. The reason you can use 14/0 over 10/0 is the 14/0 is a heavier thread. You can't go by the number. Tony --- On Tue, 3/2/10, Chuck Alexander wrote: From: Chuck Alexander Subject: Re: [VFB] How does jig thread compare in diameter with 6/0 or 3/0? To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, March 2, 2010, 2:29 PM I wish thread companies would all go to the denier system. You're right. I can't hardly tie using Guderbrod 10/0, cause it's soo tiny, but I have no problems with the Griffin's 14/0. Something else that's weird (to me anyway) about Guderbrod. They STILL make TONS of thread (unless they JUST stopped) My wife worked at the sewing factory near here and they use Guderbrod thread to make ALL the high dollar Jos A Bank men's dress suits. - Original Message - From: Anthony Spezio To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 4:41 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] How does jig thread compare in diameter with 6/0 or 3/0? Not all the same numbers are the same size. For example, the Gudebrod 10/0 was thinner that the 14/0, I think it was an Italian thread. U hear the 10/0 us being exclusively made for Orvis. For me, it was the best thread I have tied with. Tony --- On Mon, 3/1/10, Allan Fish wrote: From: Allan Fish Subject: Re: [VFB] How does jig thread compare in diameter with 6/0 or 3/0? To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, March 1, 2010, 8:33 AM > A quick question. Thanks. > > How does jig thread compare in diameter with 6/0 or 3/0? The link goes to a page selling jig thread which mentions it is a size A. Size A is supposed to be fine (not heavy), but how does it compare in diameter to 6/0 or 3/0 tying thread? The word "fine" is what throws you off. It's "Fine" for rod building thread. But it's several times the diameter of 3/0 thread. Put in simple terms, it's much heavier than fly tying thread. Well, maybe it's about the size of the Kevlar thread that's used for tying deer hair. I'm glad to see that we are starting to use actual measurements (70 denier, 140 denier, etc.) instead of letters. When we use thread designations of 3/0, 8/0, A, D, etc., we're still working in confusion like we were back in the days of "HGH" designations for fly lines. a. -- Allan Fish Greenwood, IN afi...@sbcglobal.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2717 - Release Date: 03/01/10 13:34:00 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] How does jig thread compare in diameter with 6/0 or 3/0?
I wish thread companies would all go to the denier system. You're right. I can't hardly tie using Guderbrod 10/0, cause it's soo tiny, but I have no problems with the Griffin's 14/0. Something else that's weird (to me anyway) about Guderbrod. They STILL make TONS of thread (unless they JUST stopped) My wife worked at the sewing factory near here and they use Guderbrod thread to make ALL the high dollar Jos A Bank men's dress suits. - Original Message - From: Anthony Spezio To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 4:41 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] How does jig thread compare in diameter with 6/0 or 3/0? Not all the same numbers are the same size. For example, the Gudebrod 10/0 was thinner that the 14/0, I think it was an Italian thread. U hear the 10/0 us being exclusively made for Orvis. For me, it was the best thread I have tied with. Tony --- On Mon, 3/1/10, Allan Fish wrote: From: Allan Fish Subject: Re: [VFB] How does jig thread compare in diameter with 6/0 or 3/0? To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, March 1, 2010, 8:33 AM > A quick question. Thanks. > > How does jig thread compare in diameter with 6/0 or 3/0? The link goes to a page selling jig thread which mentions it is a size A. Size A is supposed to be fine (not heavy), but how does it compare in diameter to 6/0 or 3/0 tying thread? The word "fine" is what throws you off. It's "Fine" for rod building thread. But it's several times the diameter of 3/0 thread. Put in simple terms, it's much heavier than fly tying thread. Well, maybe it's about the size of the Kevlar thread that's used for tying deer hair. I'm glad to see that we are starting to use actual measurements (70 denier, 140 denier, etc.) instead of letters. When we use thread designations of 3/0, 8/0, A, D, etc., we're still working in confusion like we were back in the days of "HGH" designations for fly lines. a. -- Allan Fish Greenwood, IN afi...@sbcglobal.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2717 - Release Date: 03/01/10 13:34:00 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] How does jig thread compare in diameter with 6/0 or 3/0?
When I get to the point of needing more thread, I will give it a try. Years past I have spent a load of cash with H&H. Always been treated right with them. Tony --- On Mon, 3/1/10, scott bearden wrote: From: scott bearden Subject: Re: [VFB] How does jig thread compare in diameter with 6/0 or 3/0? To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, March 1, 2010, 4:58 PM Chris Helm bought out the remaining stock of Gudebrod thread, but there are not many colors and sizes left. Orvis' thread doesn't have the complete line up of colors in every size. I had used Orvis thread before I knew much about fly tying, in fact it was my first thread I started with. It was Tony that introduced me to Gudebrod just as they shut things down. Recently I have subjected Tony to much whining and complaining about finding a suitable substitute. I think I have found a suitable replacement in Eurothreads marketed by Hook and Hackle. The orange isn't as bright, but it is just as thin and lays just as flat as my dwindling supply of Gudebrod. And I can get it in 3/0 all the way to 12/0. Scott On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 5:41 PM, Anthony Spezio wrote: Not all the same numbers are the same size. For example, the Gudebrod 10/0 was thinner that the 14/0, I think it was an Italian thread. U hear the 10/0 us being exclusively made for Orvis. For me, it was the best thread I have tied with. Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
RE: [VFB] How does jig thread compare in diameter with 6/0 or 3/0?
Most of the time these days, I tie w/ three colors; black, olive & white. Mostly white. I use Prismcolor markers to get the color I need. W/ the bobbin hanging from the hook, I run the outside of the wide end along the thread to get the color I want. Also good for multiple colors. J From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of scott bearden Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 4:59 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] How does jig thread compare in diameter with 6/0 or 3/0? Chris Helm bought out the remaining stock of Gudebrod thread, but there are not many colors and sizes left. Orvis' thread doesn't have the complete line up of colors in every size. I had used Orvis thread before I knew much about fly tying, in fact it was my first thread I started with. It was Tony that introduced me to Gudebrod just as they shut things down. Recently I have subjected Tony to much whining and complaining about finding a suitable substitute. I think I have found a suitable replacement in Eurothreads marketed by Hook and Hackle. The orange isn't as bright, but it is just as thin and lays just as flat as my dwindling supply of Gudebrod. And I can get it in 3/0 all the way to 12/0. Scott On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 5:41 PM, Anthony Spezio wrote: Not all the same numbers are the same size. For example, the Gudebrod 10/0 was thinner that the 14/0, I think it was an Italian thread. U hear the 10/0 us being exclusively made for Orvis. For me, it was the best thread I have tied with. Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] How does jig thread compare in diameter with 6/0 or 3/0?
Chris Helm bought out the remaining stock of Gudebrod thread, but there are not many colors and sizes left. Orvis' thread doesn't have the complete line up of colors in every size. I had used Orvis thread before I knew much about fly tying, in fact it was my first thread I started with. It was Tony that introduced me to Gudebrod just as they shut things down. Recently I have subjected Tony to much whining and complaining about finding a suitable substitute. I think I have found a suitable replacement in Eurothreads marketed by Hook and Hackle. The orange isn't as bright, but it is just as thin and lays just as flat as my dwindling supply of Gudebrod. And I can get it in 3/0 all the way to 12/0. Scott On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 5:41 PM, Anthony Spezio wrote: > Not all the same numbers are the same size. For example, the Gudebrod 10/0 > was thinner that the 14/0, I think it was an Italian thread. U hear the 10/0 > us being exclusively made for Orvis. For me, it was the best thread I have > tied with. > Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] How does jig thread compare in diameter with 6/0 or 3/0?
Not all the same numbers are the same size. For example, the Gudebrod 10/0 was thinner that the 14/0, I think it was an Italian thread. U hear the 10/0 us being exclusively made for Orvis. For me, it was the best thread I have tied with. Tony --- On Mon, 3/1/10, Allan Fish wrote: From: Allan Fish Subject: Re: [VFB] How does jig thread compare in diameter with 6/0 or 3/0? To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, March 1, 2010, 8:33 AM > A quick question. Thanks. > > How does jig thread compare in diameter with 6/0 or 3/0? The link goes to a > page selling jig thread which mentions it is a size A. Size A is supposed to > be fine (not heavy), but how does it compare in diameter to 6/0 or 3/0 tying > thread? The word "fine" is what throws you off. It's "Fine" for rod building thread. But it's several times the diameter of 3/0 thread. Put in simple terms, it's much heavier than fly tying thread. Well, maybe it's about the size of the Kevlar thread that's used for tying deer hair. I'm glad to see that we are starting to use actual measurements (70 denier, 140 denier, etc.) instead of letters. When we use thread designations of 3/0, 8/0, A, D, etc., we're still working in confusion like we were back in the days of "HGH" designations for fly lines. a. -- Allan Fish Greenwood, IN afi...@sbcglobal.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] How does jig thread compare in diameter with 6/0 or 3/0?
Wes, I have a collections of hundreds of threads of all kinds for tying threads- standard threads, kevlars, spun gels, nylons, flat, wound, braided, waxed, unwaxed, rod-binding, millinery, monos, floss, you name it, from almost microscopic (for #32s) to 50# test Gorilla-braid (for marlin flies). Because threads have more properties than just diameter, I find on many ties that it is easier/better to use multiple threads for different stages of the fly. Like with the rope-dub, I may want to tie with a flat thread, but actually do the rope on wire or mono, then build the thorax with the flat thread that will tie in the legs easily, then swap to a head color to get the final look that I want. Just depends on the fly and materials used. Many times I just want strength, and choosing a thread that has the strength I need and the other properties I want for the tie is a matter of trial and error. One problem is that most of my threads no longer have any designations left on the spool, so I'm just guessing by looking at the properties what the stuff is. I test the strength, look at how it lays down, and then use it if it works. If I'm finishing a head, I look for a flat waxed thread of proper color, as it will build up more neatly. Sometimes I use the light under-belly color and then use markers for the darker over-color. I try to keep threads grouped by kinds, but that doesn't always work. This year, orange seems to be moving in as the most popular color (did well last year)- probably all started by Tony and his Chili-pepper. LOL Orange (flourescent) hares ears, scuds, San Juans, emergers, buggers, streamers, and just about anything in orange or with orange accents. So my orange thread will go on a lot of heads. DonO - Original Message - From: Wes Wada To: flyfishingandflytyingforpanf...@yahoogroups.com ; vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 10:20 PM Subject: [VFB] How does jig thread compare in diameter with 6/0 or 3/0? A quick question. Thanks. How does jig thread compare in diameter with 6/0 or 3/0? The link goes to a page selling jig thread which mentions it is a size A. Size A is supposed to be fine (not heavy), but how does it compare in diameter to 6/0 or 3/0 tying thread? http://www.jannsnetcraft.com/fly-tying-thread/630607.aspx Wes Wada Bend, Oregon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] How does jig thread compare in diameter with 6/0 or 3/0?
I'll check my drawer with rod wrapping thread later tonite... On 1 Mar, 2010, at 15:42, Anthony Spezio wrote: > Size "D" thread is used on Saltwater Boat rods, it is like Rope > Tony > > --- On Mon, 3/1/10, Henk Verhaar wrote: > > From: Henk Verhaar > Subject: Re: [VFB] How does jig thread compare in diameter with 6/0 or 3/0? > To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > Date: Monday, March 1, 2010, 8:39 AM > > I think a 'Size A' is usually the next size up from 3/0; if I remember > correctly, Danville's flat waxed nylon is size A. Standard rod wrapping > thread is a size D I think. > > > On 1 Mar, 2010, at 15:33, Allan Fish wrote: > > >> A quick question. Thanks. > >> > >> How does jig thread compare in diameter with 6/0 or 3/0? The link goes to > >> a page selling jig thread which mentions it is a size A. Size A is > >> supposed to be fine (not heavy), but how does it compare in diameter to > >> 6/0 or 3/0 tying thread? > > > > The word "fine" is what throws you off. It's "Fine" for rod building > > thread. But it's several times the diameter of 3/0 thread. > > > > Put in simple terms, it's much heavier than fly tying thread. Well, maybe > > it's about the size of the Kevlar thread that's used for tying deer hair. > > > > I'm glad to see that we are starting to use actual measurements (70 denier, > > 140 denier, etc.) instead of letters. When we use thread designations of > > 3/0, 8/0, A, D, etc., we're still working in confusion like we were back in > > the days of "HGH" designations for fly lines. > > > > a. > > -- > > Allan Fish > > Greenwood, IN > > afi...@sbcglobal.net > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" > > group. > > > > To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en > > > > VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com > > > === ><(º> === > | Dr. Henk J.M. Verhaar | e-mail: h...@stichtsend.xs4all.nl | > | Ecotoxicoloog en vliegbinder | tel:035 656 2128 | > | Stichts End 17| mobiel: 06 38 279016 | > | NL-1244 PK Ankeveen | web:www.xs4all.nl/~flyrod | > === <º)>< === > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. > > To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en > > VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. > > To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en > > VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com === ><(º> === | Dr. Henk J.M. Verhaar | e-mail: h...@stichtsend.xs4all.nl | | Ecotoxicoloog en vliegbinder | tel:035 656 2128 | | Stichts End 17| mobiel: 06 38 279016 | | NL-1244 PK Ankeveen | web:www.xs4all.nl/~flyrod | === <º)>< === -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] How does jig thread compare in diameter with 6/0 or 3/0?
Size "D" thread is used on Saltwater Boat rods, it is like Rope Tony --- On Mon, 3/1/10, Henk Verhaar wrote: From: Henk Verhaar Subject: Re: [VFB] How does jig thread compare in diameter with 6/0 or 3/0? To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, March 1, 2010, 8:39 AM I think a 'Size A' is usually the next size up from 3/0; if I remember correctly, Danville's flat waxed nylon is size A. Standard rod wrapping thread is a size D I think. On 1 Mar, 2010, at 15:33, Allan Fish wrote: >> A quick question. Thanks. >> >> How does jig thread compare in diameter with 6/0 or 3/0? The link goes to a >> page selling jig thread which mentions it is a size A. Size A is supposed to >> be fine (not heavy), but how does it compare in diameter to 6/0 or 3/0 tying >> thread? > > The word "fine" is what throws you off. It's "Fine" for rod building > thread. But it's several times the diameter of 3/0 thread. > > Put in simple terms, it's much heavier than fly tying thread. Well, maybe > it's about the size of the Kevlar thread that's used for tying deer hair. > > I'm glad to see that we are starting to use actual measurements (70 denier, > 140 denier, etc.) instead of letters. When we use thread designations of > 3/0, 8/0, A, D, etc., we're still working in confusion like we were back in > the days of "HGH" designations for fly lines. > > a. > -- > Allan Fish > Greenwood, IN > afi...@sbcglobal.net > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. > > To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en > > VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com === ><(º> === | Dr. Henk J.M. Verhaar | e-mail: h...@stichtsend.xs4all.nl | | Ecotoxicoloog en vliegbinder | tel: 035 656 2128 | | Stichts End 17 | mobiel: 06 38 279016 | | NL-1244 PK Ankeveen | web: www.xs4all.nl/~flyrod | === <º)>< === -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] How does jig thread compare in diameter with 6/0 or 3/0?
I think a 'Size A' is usually the next size up from 3/0; if I remember correctly, Danville's flat waxed nylon is size A. Standard rod wrapping thread is a size D I think. On 1 Mar, 2010, at 15:33, Allan Fish wrote: >> A quick question. Thanks. >> >> How does jig thread compare in diameter with 6/0 or 3/0? The link goes to a >> page selling jig thread which mentions it is a size A. Size A is supposed to >> be fine (not heavy), but how does it compare in diameter to 6/0 or 3/0 tying >> thread? > > The word "fine" is what throws you off. It's "Fine" for rod building thread. > But it's several times the diameter of 3/0 thread. > > Put in simple terms, it's much heavier than fly tying thread. Well, maybe > it's about the size of the Kevlar thread that's used for tying deer hair. > > I'm glad to see that we are starting to use actual measurements (70 denier, > 140 denier, etc.) instead of letters. When we use thread designations of > 3/0, 8/0, A, D, etc., we're still working in confusion like we were back in > the days of "HGH" designations for fly lines. > > a. > -- > Allan Fish > Greenwood, IN > afi...@sbcglobal.net > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. > > To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en > > VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com === ><(º> === | Dr. Henk J.M. Verhaar | e-mail: h...@stichtsend.xs4all.nl | | Ecotoxicoloog en vliegbinder | tel:035 656 2128 | | Stichts End 17| mobiel: 06 38 279016 | | NL-1244 PK Ankeveen | web:www.xs4all.nl/~flyrod | === <º)>< === -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] How does jig thread compare in diameter with 6/0 or 3/0?
A quick question. Thanks. How does jig thread compare in diameter with 6/0 or 3/0? The link goes to a page selling jig thread which mentions it is a size A. Size A is supposed to be fine (not heavy), but how does it compare in diameter to 6/0 or 3/0 tying thread? The word "fine" is what throws you off. It's "Fine" for rod building thread. But it's several times the diameter of 3/0 thread. Put in simple terms, it's much heavier than fly tying thread. Well, maybe it's about the size of the Kevlar thread that's used for tying deer hair. I'm glad to see that we are starting to use actual measurements (70 denier, 140 denier, etc.) instead of letters. When we use thread designations of 3/0, 8/0, A, D, etc., we're still working in confusion like we were back in the days of "HGH" designations for fly lines. a. -- Allan Fish Greenwood, IN afi...@sbcglobal.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] How does jig thread compare in diameter with 6/0 or 3/0?
A much bigger thread would feel like rope after useing 0/0 or 8/0. gary S. - Original Message - From: Wes Wada To: flyfishingandflytyingforpanf...@yahoogroups.com ; vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 12:20 AM Subject: [VFB] How does jig thread compare in diameter with 6/0 or 3/0? A quick question. Thanks. How does jig thread compare in diameter with 6/0 or 3/0? The link goes to a page selling jig thread which mentions it is a size A. Size A is supposed to be fine (not heavy), but how does it compare in diameter to 6/0 or 3/0 tying thread? http://www.jannsnetcraft.com/fly-tying-thread/630607.aspx Wes Wada Bend, Oregon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com