Re: [videoblogging] Digest Number 1566
Sorry Josh, it´s free and worked at least with a 1m45sec mov file. 1. Downloaded and instaled the plug-in, from the link below; 2. My Quicktime is the pro version, and shows a dialog box with a lot of options for the wmv export (more than I had seen in windowns movie maker); 3. System Preferences shows a flip4mac thing, and the pane for purchasing is greyed out; 4. Like I said it has a strange behaviour, when opening a wmv in quicktime, the file expands in size and bitrate, and plays fine.When closed the file reverts to its original size (size increase not that big tough); 5. Final Cut Pro doesn´t show the wmv option in export. Shouldn´t it? All the best, Miguel. http://graodegente.blogspot.com Message: 2 Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 16:50:37 -0800 From: Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re: wmv from quicktime, for free Have you been able to export the whole movie to WMV with Quicktime? I think it exports the first 10 sec. or so as a trial, but you need to upgrade to Flip4Mac Studio to be able to really export WMV (that costs $99 if I recall... if that's free now then I will definitely be contacting them for my money back as I bought a license several months ago). -Josh On 1/13/06, miglsd27 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jake Ludington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For those like me trying do make wmv, and don´t want to touch win machines (I think quicktime pro is needed) http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/player/ flip4mac.mspx Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Incredible Dog Challenge Podcast and Televised...
http://events.purina.com/dogs/events/idcwest2005/ Here is a link to the Incredible Dog Challenge podcast page. Check out the flying disc finals and Eastern Regionals to see my dog, Leilani and I, and if you want to see some carnage, check out the Western Regional. Such a bummer that we have idiot announcers that have no idea what this game is all about and manage to give Discdoggers a bad name. Anyway, this will be televised today: 12:30pm-2pm EST on NBC. Hope you all enjoy. Ron Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] ipod conversion now built into iTunes
With the latest itunes 6.02 or whatever the latest version is, theres a new option if you right-click on a video, 'convert selection for ipod'. Bit of a stupid choice of words that, but it works, probably uses the quicktime 7.0.4 ipod export as its about the same speed, so its creating baseline h264 m4v's. I havent tried it too much so far, and I havent worked out if itunes can be set to do this stuff automatically, but hey its progress I guess. People can convert to ipod format without buying quicktime pro (I think) and if your videos can be made to show up in itunes, you know people now have a way to get them to their ipods even if you arent using an ipod compatible format. This applies to Mac PC versions. Steve of Elbows Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Incredible Dog Challenge Podcast and Televised...
Everyone, for a quick and entertaining clip of Ron doing the frisbee thing with his dog at the 2005 Purina Incredible Dog Challenge check out the following url. He's the last competitor of like 4 and one the event. Highly entertaining... most kick ass dog vlog evar. :) http://www.purina.com/Downloads/Podcasts/Events/IDC2005/ Freestyle_Disc_E.mp4 Duration: 8:13 Eastern Regional – Flying Disc Wed, 04 Jan 2006 14:00:38 -0600 Every bit as much fun for the dog and handler as it is to watch, this freestyle event highlights the creativity of dog and handler. BTW everyone, the feed in case you want to subscribe is below... a tremendous amount of high qualities videos. http://www.purina.com/Downloads/Podcasts/Events/IDC2005/ idc2005_regional.xml I can't believe Purina has their own video podcast, I'm stoked about it. Love to see how video blogging is giving so called alternative sports which seem to be well outside of mainstream a marketplace and a distribution system... stuff that you're not going to find on standard TV or even Cable unless you pay for a couple hundred channels. I'm not going to subscribe to it, well... maybe I will. I'm definitely going to put it in the Mefeedia database. BTW, Ron, it's great to see you in action. Did you consult on them with this video podcast and have you ever thought about just dropping this in your own vlog feed so people can just subscribe and get your appearances instead of you having to specifically point them out via email or some such? Ummm... some bitching about accessibility... On a side note that Purina's flash site... oye! I'm not a huge fan of the monolithic flash apps... being as how I'm an advocate of actually being able to access things. I in fact had to subscribe to their podcast in itunes... get info ant then type in the url in order to find the feed and then go through the feed to find the ipod compatible mp4... it's like WTF I hate you apple and purina.. why you gotta make me jump through unnecessary hoops? :) But of course I don't hate them, they just need to learn to stop whomping on their customers because this is an economy of information where accessibility rules the day... and in fact they would get their videos viewed by 100x as many people if they put it on an open accessible web page with an open accessible feed and used something like feedburner.com to generate all the proper RSS (full mRSS and RSS 2.0, instead of just apple crap)... which would submit it to yahoo video search and ping all the major blog search and tracking services ...but then heh! ...everyone knows I'm just a cranky ole' vlogger fart. :) Maybe Purina doesn't want their video to be seen and ACCESSED by as many potential fans as possible... maybe their not doing it for advertising, marketing and exposure to current and potential fans... to the long tail of pet lovers and dog food purchasers... maybe they just went through all the trouble to put it online so a very few select people could see it and think they were hip and with it or something, not actually so it can be seen or heard by as many people as possible. Like it's not about communication it's about techno- hype and techno-hippitude. Or! maybe they didn't want people stealing it... I hear that one a lot too. :) Oh... and I'm going to take this opportunity to poke some fun at Eric Rice for having one of the best damn Video and Audio Podcast systems that never ever gets talked about because he collects your credit card at the door and times you before he let's you look around his store at the merchandise... Eric! come on, when's the last time you went to a store and they collected your credit card at the door and said.. you've got 7 minutes otherwise we're automatically charging you $5. It's all about open access people... how do you get seen in an universe where information is so abundant it's warfare?! Buy even more ads! NO! You make your self accessible for christ sake! It's free! I'm sure Eric Rice's Audioblog.com service was accessible enough when he first rolled it out a couple years ago or so... and what the hell I'm sure it'll be profitable enough if he keeps going with it the way he is... but in this world where we make the rules we need to be asking ourselves not how accessible does it have to be... but how open and accessible can I make it... and let me tell you... using eric's audioblog.com as a guinea pig... eric's not going to loose any money if he allows anyone to come in and play with audioblog.com and post a few trial podcasts or vlogs with limited distribution, say 100 downloads so they can try out the system... more than likely they'll get hooked and realize that at $5 a month it's an amazing hot damn deal! More though... it'll get them dabbling and playing with it... and talking... and recommending. Or... he can keep putting out press releases about cool new things
Re: [videoblogging] ipod conversion now built into iTunes
On Jan 15, 2006, at 9:32 AM, Steve Watkins wrote: With the latest itunes 6.02 or whatever the latest version is, theres a new option if you right-click on a video, 'convert selection for ipod'. Bit of a stupid choice of words that, but it works, probably uses the quicktime 7.0.4 ipod export as its about the same speed, so its creating baseline h264 m4v's. No crap? You sure? You know they've had this feature for mp3's forever... I use it all the time for taking an MOV of a speach or presentation and converting it to an mp3... but I didn't expect it to ever do video. Are you sure it does video? I won't believe it to I see it... my system is updating right now, I will try soon. I havent tried it too much so far, and I havent worked out if itunes can be set to do this stuff automatically, but hey its progress I guess. People can convert to ipod format without buying quicktime pro (I think) and if your videos can be made to show up in itunes, you know people now have a way to get them to their ipods even if you arent using an ipod compatible format. I'm not so sure about this... I think you're falsely raising my hopes.. and I'm going to have to go back to using iSquint. :( This applies to Mac PC versions. Steve of Elbows Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] New interest in old project - What's Important
Please let me know if this posting is not appropriate for this forum. I apologize in advance if it is. Since the What's Important Project is looking for both directors and content submitters, I thought perhaps folks here would like to hear about it. The following is a note I recieved from the project creator, Ken Chan. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Guys, We started this not for profit project a few years ago, and interest in it has picked up again, with advent of video podcasting, which is a perfect medium for the micro-doco project. http://www.whatsimportant.tv for more brief-at-the-moment information We are setting up teams in US, UK, China and Australia at the moment, and in essence are looking for directors to commit to leading a minimalist team to capture a set of interview with 3 people in their lives once, per 3 months, plus when we send out the request for a global Snapshot - which is a snapshot of opinions and thoughts of all teams interviewees at a specific time in response to specific world events. The goal is to uncover commonality between people, as well as to view and appreciate difference from an unbiased point of view. Its an exciting project, and something which inspires and lights me up. At this point we have agreed to have a EAST, WEST and REGIONAL team for each country (e.g. east coast, west coast, central USA etc.) I'm inviting you to put up your hand to lead a team. It doesn't involve a lot, just being in communication with all regional leaders over Skype once per fortnight to manage accountabilities and also to help mould the project. Also it will involve managing your own team, but you will be supported in any issues you face with that. We want to have all teams in place for the first phase by March 31 2006, and hopefully with all teams having produced their first set of micro-documentaries. The plan is to have a solid proof-of-concept by Mid 2006, and then to go for funding, sponsorship etc.. I'd love you all to be involved in this. It has the heart of something that could be very special. Please pass on to any web people, film people PR people who you think would love this project. Regards, - Ken Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] the clerks videoblog
dont know if you like movies, but heres a cool video: http://clerks2.com/movies/goodbadman560.mov Director Kevin Smith has his friends(Quentin Tarantino and Robert Rodriguez) over to watch his recent cut... and gets feedback. when do we ever get to see stuff like this? jay -- Adventures in Videoblogging http://www.momentshowing.net http://getFireAnt.com http://node101.org Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] new community for spanish speakers
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Re: [videoblogging] download google videos
Howdy Josh, Been meaning to ask you what you thought of the new google video. It seems to be moving in the right direction. It's still of no practical use to vloggers since you can't enclose a link to a video, but it's no longer quite the media trap it once was, and the potential for anyone to sell videos through it means it could be very accessible and long tail... not just a marketplace for hollywood content. More below. On Jan 15, 2006, at 1:11 AM, Joshua Kinberg wrote: apparently the videos you can purchase through Google Video Store aren't made to be played in common media players. Here's a hack to download AVI versions of the videos: http://www.querocarromogi.com/videogoogle/ I'm not sure about pay only' videos... very interested to hear more, but for free videos if you choose download for ipod or PSP you get a portable standard format mp4 you can take anywhere or do anything with. Anyone else try purchasing content through google video? -Mike -Josh Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] download google videos
Anyone else try purchasing content through google video? Yes it tried, my money wasn't good enough for Paramount Pics. videos since i am a non-us resident. -A Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] download google videos
Yes it tried I meant : Yes, I tried Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] ipod conversion now built into iTunes
convert selection for ipod Works like a charm -Addi Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] download google videos
Been meaning to ask you what you thought of the new google video. I think its getting a little better, but its still far from good. Remember though, this is a very new direction for Goog. This is their first real attempt at e-commerce. This is also the first Google Search product that only searches Google's resources... expect similar from Google Base. This is a very interesting shift in strategy for Goog since all other search products are defined by their usefulness in their ability to link outbound from Google. Right now I think the Google Video Store interface needs a lot of work. It is also drastically lacking in terms of mainstream content. Let's compare, Apple started their video store with Desperate Housewives, Lost, and videos from U2 and Madonna. Google started theirs with CSI (okay), old Charlie Rose episodes, and old Brady Bunch episodes. Perhaps the thought of non-mainstream content providers setting their own price for download is attractive... we'll have to wait and see. But I'm told that the purchased videos from Google (I haven't attempted yet) only play in a special Google Video player and are not interoperable with any other media players. To me, this makes the value of their video offering significantly less... I'd be buying something that's designed to be broken (thank you DRM). Now, if I bought something that I could burn to a DVD (fair use if just fo me), shift to my TV somehow, put on my iPod or PSP, etc, then that would be of value. But here's the deal. Google has the luxury of time. They'll get better. They have a history of doing this. Starting with an initial crappy offering and then improving as they go. They've got enough money and engineering talent to see it through. So I guess we just have to wait and see. I agree with you though, I don't see this as being of much real use to videobloggers. -Josh On 1/15/06, Michael Meiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Howdy Josh, Been meaning to ask you what you thought of the new google video. It seems to be moving in the right direction. It's still of no practical use to vloggers since you can't enclose a link to a video, but it's no longer quite the media trap it once was, and the potential for anyone to sell videos through it means it could be very accessible and long tail... not just a marketplace for hollywood content. More below. On Jan 15, 2006, at 1:11 AM, Joshua Kinberg wrote: apparently the videos you can purchase through Google Video Store aren't made to be played in common media players. Here's a hack to download AVI versions of the videos: http://www.querocarromogi.com/videogoogle/ I'm not sure about pay only' videos... very interested to hear more, but for free videos if you choose download for ipod or PSP you get a portable standard format mp4 you can take anywhere or do anything with. Anyone else try purchasing content through google video? -Mike -Josh Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] ipod conversion now built into iTunes
This is true. Its in their features list on the download page for iTunes. Why would you be in disbelief here? Seems like a natural feature and the export option is built into QT Pro. BTW, all the features of QT Pro are accessible from the Quicktime API. This means that when you buy QT Pro you're buying nothing other than the convenience of accessing features that were already on your computer through a nice and simple GUI (which I still think is worth it). -Josh On 1/15/06, Michael Meiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 15, 2006, at 9:32 AM, Steve Watkins wrote: With the latest itunes 6.02 or whatever the latest version is, theres a new option if you right-click on a video, 'convert selection for ipod'. Bit of a stupid choice of words that, but it works, probably uses the quicktime 7.0.4 ipod export as its about the same speed, so its creating baseline h264 m4v's. No crap? You sure? You know they've had this feature for mp3's forever... I use it all the time for taking an MOV of a speach or presentation and converting it to an mp3... but I didn't expect it to ever do video. Are you sure it does video? I won't believe it to I see it... my system is updating right now, I will try soon. I havent tried it too much so far, and I havent worked out if itunes can be set to do this stuff automatically, but hey its progress I guess. People can convert to ipod format without buying quicktime pro (I think) and if your videos can be made to show up in itunes, you know people now have a way to get them to their ipods even if you arent using an ipod compatible format. I'm not so sure about this... I think you're falsely raising my hopes.. and I'm going to have to go back to using iSquint. :( This applies to Mac PC versions. Steve of Elbows Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] ipod conversion now built into iTunes
Maybe it's because Michael was in hard disagreement with me and others in that last long long thread on the vertigo list. I said then and still think it should be the user's responsibility that content plays on their device, not the author's. Ie. I provide only one or two formats and the user can then convert to whatever format suits his needs, because he is the only one who knows what fits him. I'm glad Apple agrees with me. Although I imagine the encoding time is a big turn-off unless it happens in the background. And for the record: I think you're the first person to call the QT Pro GUI nice. Simple, certainly. Nice... Not so much. :o) - Andreas On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 18:04:35 +0100, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is true. Its in their features list on the download page for iTunes. Why would you be in disbelief here? Seems like a natural feature and the export option is built into QT Pro. BTW, all the features of QT Pro are accessible from the Quicktime API. This means that when you buy QT Pro you're buying nothing other than the convenience of accessing features that were already on your computer through a nice and simple GUI (which I still think is worth it). -- URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] ipod conversion now built into iTunes
On Jan 15, 2006, at 12:04 PM, Joshua Kinberg wrote: This is true. Its in their features list on the download page for iTunes. Why would you be in disbelief here? Seems like a natural feature and the export option is built into QT Pro. BTW, all the features of QT Pro are accessible from the Quicktime API. This means that when you buy QT Pro you're buying nothing other than the convenience of accessing features that were already on your computer through a nice and simple GUI (which I still think is worth it). -Josh Damn, You're right... very sweet.. Sync Home Movies New in iTunes 6. - Create iPod-compatible versions of your own movies using iTunes. BUT what formats does it work for? I assume it'll work for anything QT can play... DIVX or AVI if you have the DIVX QT component... I can't wait to try it out. Maybe at some point in the future I can have it automatically convert my video blog subscriptions. The only question is how darn long it's going to take... H264 conversion is very time intensive. -Mike On 1/15/06, Michael Meiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 15, 2006, at 9:32 AM, Steve Watkins wrote: With the latest itunes 6.02 or whatever the latest version is, theres a new option if you right-click on a video, 'convert selection for ipod'. Bit of a stupid choice of words that, but it works, probably uses the quicktime 7.0.4 ipod export as its about the same speed, so its creating baseline h264 m4v's. No crap? You sure? You know they've had this feature for mp3's forever... I use it all the time for taking an MOV of a speach or presentation and converting it to an mp3... but I didn't expect it to ever do video. Are you sure it does video? I won't believe it to I see it... my system is updating right now, I will try soon. I havent tried it too much so far, and I havent worked out if itunes can be set to do this stuff automatically, but hey its progress I guess. People can convert to ipod format without buying quicktime pro (I think) and if your videos can be made to show up in itunes, you know people now have a way to get them to their ipods even if you arent using an ipod compatible format. I'm not so sure about this... I think you're falsely raising my hopes.. and I'm going to have to go back to using iSquint. :( This applies to Mac PC versions. Steve of Elbows Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] ipod conversion now built into iTunes
And for the record: I think you're the first person to call the QT Pro GUI nice. Simple, certainly. Nice... Not so much. :o) Well, its nice enough that I don't have to write my own application or script just to access most of the essential features of the QT API... like exporting video. -Josh On 1/15/06, Andreas Haugstrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe it's because Michael was in hard disagreement with me and others in that last long long thread on the vertigo list. I said then and still think it should be the user's responsibility that content plays on their device, not the author's. Ie. I provide only one or two formats and the user can then convert to whatever format suits his needs, because he is the only one who knows what fits him. I'm glad Apple agrees with me. Although I imagine the encoding time is a big turn-off unless it happens in the background. And for the record: I think you're the first person to call the QT Pro GUI nice. Simple, certainly. Nice... Not so much. :o) - Andreas On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 18:04:35 +0100, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is true. Its in their features list on the download page for iTunes. Why would you be in disbelief here? Seems like a natural feature and the export option is built into QT Pro. BTW, all the features of QT Pro are accessible from the Quicktime API. This means that when you buy QT Pro you're buying nothing other than the convenience of accessing features that were already on your computer through a nice and simple GUI (which I still think is worth it). -- URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: ipod conversion now built into iTunes
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Haugstrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe it's because Michael was in hard disagreement with me and others in that last long long thread on the vertigo list. I said then and still think it should be the user's responsibility that content plays on their device, not the author's. Ie. I provide only one or two formats and the user can then convert to whatever format suits his needs, because he is the only one who knows what fits him. Those authors will have limited sales or go out of business. The average user doesn't want another step to figure out a codec to make their video work. They want it to simply work and will bypass products that requires additional work. -- Enric I'm glad Apple agrees with me. Although I imagine the encoding time is a big turn-off unless it happens in the background. And for the record: I think you're the first person to call the QT Pro GUI nice. Simple, certainly. Nice... Not so much. :o) - Andreas On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 18:04:35 +0100, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is true. Its in their features list on the download page for iTunes. Why would you be in disbelief here? Seems like a natural feature and the export option is built into QT Pro. BTW, all the features of QT Pro are accessible from the Quicktime API. This means that when you buy QT Pro you're buying nothing other than the convenience of accessing features that were already on your computer through a nice and simple GUI (which I still think is worth it). -- URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] ipod conversion now built into iTunes
On Jan 15, 2006, at 12:12 PM, Andreas Haugstrup wrote: Maybe it's because Michael was in hard disagreement with me and others in that last long long thread on the vertigo list. I said then and still think it should be the user's responsibility that content plays on their device, not the author's. Ie. I provide only one or two formats and the user can then convert to whatever format suits his needs, because he is the only one who knows what fits him. I'm glad Apple agrees with me. Although I imagine the encoding time is a big turn-off unless it happens in the background. I love how you make it out like it's an agreement like it's a human quality... when in fact it's just simple economics... Apple didn't agree with you. :) AND my position is not a disagreement... some things CANNOT convert on the fly... like for example... anything that's not a full blow computer such as Tivo, such as Akimbo, such as cell phones and PDA's you've vastly mischaracterized my argument andreas. I am in favor of tools at the edge of the network... i.e. the end users computer, that automatically do conversion to the proper format for the device... it's a great thing... perhaps Tivo will include this in Tivo... or Akimbo in their platform... all I'm saying is it makes more sense that for a lot of portable devices... especially for those that don't sync to a computer but get content directly from the internet for this transcoding to happen either through some middle ware service or at the blog level... or of course they can just try to support more formats... and of course not all blogs can or will have every format... rocketboom is one of the rare vlogs that do support a wide variety of fromats... so such middle services that do transcoding will not only be a necissity, but will likely be VERY common in the future... because they'll be a neccessity for portable devices untill their is some widespread standardization on formats like the mp3. Now as for my disbelief it's simply because I've heavily used the convert for ipod feature on previous versions and it'd never supported conversion of videos to 4mv... not even on 6.0.1 or .2 or . 3 or whatever. It just converted to mp3. Steve said he hadn't used it and hadn't tried it... nothing gave me any indication that the exact same convert to ipod feature should sudenly have new functionality in the latest miniscule release... I incorrectly thought Steve had just rediscovered a feature already present, not a lot of people knew about the convesion people. Simple mistake. :) Anyway... I need to go restart my mac now and give it a shot. Didn't mean to insult Steve or be rude or anything. :) peace, -Mike And for the record: I think you're the first person to call the QT Pro GUI nice. Simple, certainly. Nice... Not so much. :o) - Andreas On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 18:04:35 +0100, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is true. Its in their features list on the download page for iTunes. Why would you be in disbelief here? Seems like a natural feature and the export option is built into QT Pro. BTW, all the features of QT Pro are accessible from the Quicktime API. This means that when you buy QT Pro you're buying nothing other than the convenience of accessing features that were already on your computer through a nice and simple GUI (which I still think is worth it). -- URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: ipod conversion now built into iTunes
Those authors will have limited sales or go out of business. The average user doesn't want another step to figure out a codec to make their video work. They want it to simply work and will bypass products that requires additional work. Not necessarily true. What did you have to do to get your CDs on your iPod? -Josh On 1/15/06, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Haugstrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe it's because Michael was in hard disagreement with me and others in that last long long thread on the vertigo list. I said then and still think it should be the user's responsibility that content plays on their device, not the author's. Ie. I provide only one or two formats and the user can then convert to whatever format suits his needs, because he is the only one who knows what fits him. Those authors will have limited sales or go out of business. The average user doesn't want another step to figure out a codec to make their video work. They want it to simply work and will bypass products that requires additional work. -- Enric I'm glad Apple agrees with me. Although I imagine the encoding time is a big turn-off unless it happens in the background. And for the record: I think you're the first person to call the QT Pro GUI nice. Simple, certainly. Nice... Not so much. :o) - Andreas On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 18:04:35 +0100, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is true. Its in their features list on the download page for iTunes. Why would you be in disbelief here? Seems like a natural feature and the export option is built into QT Pro. BTW, all the features of QT Pro are accessible from the Quicktime API. This means that when you buy QT Pro you're buying nothing other than the convenience of accessing features that were already on your computer through a nice and simple GUI (which I still think is worth it). -- URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: the clerks videoblog
dont know if you like movies, but heres a cool video: http://clerks2.com/movies/goodbadman560.mov Director Kevin Smith has his friends(Quentin Tarantino and Robert Rodriguez) over to watch his recent cut... and gets feedback. when do we ever get to see stuff like this? here is Kevin Smith's feed: http://clerks2.com/clerks2ipod.xml Jay -- Adventures in Videoblogging http://www.momentshowing.net http://getFireAnt.com http://node101.org Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: ipod conversion now built into iTunes
On Jan 15, 2006, at 12:55 PM, Joshua Kinberg wrote: Those authors will have limited sales or go out of business. The average user doesn't want another step to figure out a codec to make their video work. They want it to simply work and will bypass products that requires additional work. Not necessarily true. What did you have to do to get your CDs on your iPod? -Josh True Josh. Look I don't care where the transcoding happens just as long as it's transparent and doesn't in fact become a tool weilded for exclusivity and access, which is BTW, EXACTLY the proposal of DRM... it's inoperability by design... All I care about is that everyone who can create a video can have it anywhere vlogs can and will go. It's got to be open and accessible. There are in fact two forces at work on this accesibility issue... consumer demand and creator demand... some people will try to solve the issue by making better tools for creators and some people will try and solve it by creating better tools for consumers... both solutions are equitable.. but the important thing is that it's in EVERYONE's best interest. iTunes is solving the issue for THEIR consumers of media, that's cool, but just one way to do it. Mostly I'm just very pleased that we're starting to see some solutions for the transcoding issues. I can't wait to see how it plays out. -Mike On 1/15/06, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Haugstrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe it's because Michael was in hard disagreement with me and others in that last long long thread on the vertigo list. I said then and still think it should be the user's responsibility that content plays on their device, not the author's. Ie. I provide only one or two formats and the user can then convert to whatever format suits his needs, because he is the only one who knows what fits him. Those authors will have limited sales or go out of business. The average user doesn't want another step to figure out a codec to make their video work. They want it to simply work and will bypass products that requires additional work. -- Enric I'm glad Apple agrees with me. Although I imagine the encoding time is a big turn-off unless it happens in the background. And for the record: I think you're the first person to call the QT Pro GUI nice. Simple, certainly. Nice... Not so much. :o) - Andreas On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 18:04:35 +0100, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is true. Its in their features list on the download page for iTunes. Why would you be in disbelief here? Seems like a natural feature and the export option is built into QT Pro. BTW, all the features of QT Pro are accessible from the Quicktime API. This means that when you buy QT Pro you're buying nothing other than the convenience of accessing features that were already on your computer through a nice and simple GUI (which I still think is worth it). -- URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: ipod conversion now built into iTunes
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Those authors will have limited sales or go out of business. The average user doesn't want another step to figure out a codec to make their video work. They want it to simply work and will bypass products that requires additional work. Not necessarily true. What did you have to do to get your CDs on your iPod? -Josh I put the CD in my drive, the songs appear in iTunes with the CD icon. I drag the songs to the Library. They automaticaly convert. When I plugin my iPod the songs automaticaly update to the iPod. No additional codecs to run, no outside software to figure out through manuals or website instructions. Insert, drag, plugin -- standard and mainly intuitive human actions. -- Enric On 1/15/06, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Haugstrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe it's because Michael was in hard disagreement with me and others in that last long long thread on the vertigo list. I said then and still think it should be the user's responsibility that content plays on their device, not the author's. Ie. I provide only one or two formats and the user can then convert to whatever format suits his needs, because he is the only one who knows what fits him. Those authors will have limited sales or go out of business. The average user doesn't want another step to figure out a codec to make their video work. They want it to simply work and will bypass products that requires additional work. -- Enric I'm glad Apple agrees with me. Although I imagine the encoding time is a big turn-off unless it happens in the background. And for the record: I think you're the first person to call the QT Pro GUI nice. Simple, certainly. Nice... Not so much. :o) - Andreas On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 18:04:35 +0100, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is true. Its in their features list on the download page for iTunes. Why would you be in disbelief here? Seems like a natural feature and the export option is built into QT Pro. BTW, all the features of QT Pro are accessible from the Quicktime API. This means that when you buy QT Pro you're buying nothing other than the convenience of accessing features that were already on your computer through a nice and simple GUI (which I still think is worth it). -- URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] download google videos
The default 'google video' format is for the highest res-- You can also download the videos on ipod or psp format (at the uploader's discretion).Ronen YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: the clerks videoblog
That's pretty cool Jay, thanks for the feed... that's going right on my ipod subscription list... BTW, do you dig up new stuff like this every week? -Mike On Jan 15, 2006, at 1:02 PM, Jay dedman wrote: dont know if you like movies, but heres a cool video: http://clerks2.com/movies/goodbadman560.mov Director Kevin Smith has his friends(Quentin Tarantino and Robert Rodriguez) over to watch his recent cut... and gets feedback. when do we ever get to see stuff like this? here is Kevin Smith's feed: http://clerks2.com/clerks2ipod.xml Jay -- Adventures in Videoblogging http://www.momentshowing.net http://getFireAnt.com http://node101.org Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: ipod conversion now built into iTunes
right... you had to drag the stuff in and it automatically converts. But it still had to convert. Its just that the interface was simple and intuitive. I would think that iTunes will try to make the process roughly the same for video on the iPod. -Josh On 1/15/06, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Those authors will have limited sales or go out of business. The average user doesn't want another step to figure out a codec to make their video work. They want it to simply work and will bypass products that requires additional work. Not necessarily true. What did you have to do to get your CDs on your iPod? -Josh I put the CD in my drive, the songs appear in iTunes with the CD icon. I drag the songs to the Library. They automaticaly convert. When I plugin my iPod the songs automaticaly update to the iPod. No additional codecs to run, no outside software to figure out through manuals or website instructions. Insert, drag, plugin -- standard and mainly intuitive human actions. -- Enric On 1/15/06, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Haugstrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe it's because Michael was in hard disagreement with me and others in that last long long thread on the vertigo list. I said then and still think it should be the user's responsibility that content plays on their device, not the author's. Ie. I provide only one or two formats and the user can then convert to whatever format suits his needs, because he is the only one who knows what fits him. Those authors will have limited sales or go out of business. The average user doesn't want another step to figure out a codec to make their video work. They want it to simply work and will bypass products that requires additional work. -- Enric I'm glad Apple agrees with me. Although I imagine the encoding time is a big turn-off unless it happens in the background. And for the record: I think you're the first person to call the QT Pro GUI nice. Simple, certainly. Nice... Not so much. :o) - Andreas On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 18:04:35 +0100, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is true. Its in their features list on the download page for iTunes. Why would you be in disbelief here? Seems like a natural feature and the export option is built into QT Pro. BTW, all the features of QT Pro are accessible from the Quicktime API. This means that when you buy QT Pro you're buying nothing other than the convenience of accessing features that were already on your computer through a nice and simple GUI (which I still think is worth it). -- URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: the clerks videoblog
It's a great videoblog. Check out the first entry for his fantastic intro to the series(http://clerks2.com/?p=5)The videoblogs themselves are made by Zak Knutson and Joey FigueroaOn 1/15/06, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dont know if you like movies, but heres a cool video: http://clerks2.com/movies/goodbadman560.mov Director Kevin Smith has his friends(Quentin Tarantino and Robert Rodriguez) over to watch his recent cut... and gets feedback. when do we ever get to see stuff like this? here is Kevin Smith's feed: http://clerks2.com/clerks2ipod.xml Jay -- Adventures in Videoblogging http://www.momentshowing.net http://getFireAnt.com http://node101.org SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: the clerks videoblog
Pretty cool. Nice to see Smith getting feedback on his movie and the process. Good god though, Tarantino (the person, not his movies) bugs the shit outta me. Always has...always will. David http://www.taoofdavid.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dont know if you like movies, but heres a cool video: http://clerks2.com/movies/goodbadman560.mov Director Kevin Smith has his friends(Quentin Tarantino and Robert Rodriguez) over to watch his recent cut... and gets feedback. when do we ever get to see stuff like this? jay -- Adventures in Videoblogging http://www.momentshowing.net http://getFireAnt.com http://node101.org Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: the clerks videoblog
yeah, right up there with King Kong ;) Ronen wrote: It's a great videoblog. Check out the first entry for his fantastic intro to the series (http://clerks2.com/?p=5) The videoblogs themselves are made by Zak Knutson and Joey Figueroa On 1/15/06, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dont know if you like movies, but heres a cool video: http://clerks2.com/movies/goodbadman560.mov Director Kevin Smith has his friends(Quentin Tarantino and Robert Rodriguez) over to watch his recent cut... and gets feedback. when do we ever get to see stuff like this? here is Kevin Smith's feed: http://clerks2.com/clerks2ipod.xml Jay -- Adventures in Videoblogging http://www.momentshowing.net http://getFireAnt.com http://node101.org SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . -- My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us http://apperceptions.org http://digitaldojo.blogspot.com http://node101.org http://spinflow.org http://wearethemedia.com http://xpressionvlog.blogspot.com aim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: msandy spin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: the clerks videoblog
That's pretty cool Jay, thanks for the feed... that's going right on my ipod subscription list... BTW, do you dig up new stuff like this every week? im always finding cool videos in my aggregator. we're working on makiing tagging easier so people (like me) could become a filter channel. ill sort through hundreds of videos so you dnt have to. Jay -- Adventures in Videoblogging http://www.momentshowing.net http://getFireAnt.com http://node101.org Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: ipod conversion now built into iTunes
I wish there were better answers to standardization of formats in the video space. Unfortunately I really don't see an end to it. Mp4 is hardly much of a standard. There are many derivaitons of mp4 and different codecs that can be contained in mp4 that are not yet compatible everywhere (h.264 for example). Also, mp4 is a patented technology (so is mp3, BTW), so that means that any application that encodes mp4 is generally liable to pay license royalties to mpeg-LA. Does that mean that non-patent-encumbered technologies will lead the way? Doubtful... Ogg really hasn't caught on yet as an audio format (well, maybe it hasn't caught on because its not supported on the iPod). The only video formats that I know of that are open-source and non-patent-encumbered are Theora and Dirac, neither of which are really used at all. -Josh On 1/15/06, Michael Meiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 15, 2006, at 1:17 PM, Joshua Kinberg wrote: right... you had to drag the stuff in and it automatically converts. But it still had to convert. Its just that the interface was simple and intuitive. I would think that iTunes will try to make the process roughly the same for video on the iPod. -Josh The only problem with this ease of use and transparency is video conversion is VERY processor intensive and can in fact take DAYS for say a DVD and hours for a simple podcast. It's not apple that's being a tyrant it's simple technical issues... it's not that the end device shouldn't transcode to the proper format it's that sometimes it simply can't. Anyway, all this such will be offset by a slow standardization on a format like mp3, perhaps that will be mp4. Any guesses? -Mike On 1/15/06, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Those authors will have limited sales or go out of business. The average user doesn't want another step to figure out a codec to make their video work. They want it to simply work and will bypass products that requires additional work. Not necessarily true. What did you have to do to get your CDs on your iPod? -Josh I put the CD in my drive, the songs appear in iTunes with the CD icon. I drag the songs to the Library. They automaticaly convert. When I plugin my iPod the songs automaticaly update to the iPod. No additional codecs to run, no outside software to figure out through manuals or website instructions. Insert, drag, plugin -- standard and mainly intuitive human actions. -- Enric On 1/15/06, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Haugstrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe it's because Michael was in hard disagreement with me and others in that last long long thread on the vertigo list. I said then and still think it should be the user's responsibility that content plays on their device, not the author's. Ie. I provide only one or two formats and the user can then convert to whatever format suits his needs, because he is the only one who knows what fits him. Those authors will have limited sales or go out of business. The average user doesn't want another step to figure out a codec to make their video work. They want it to simply work and will bypass products that requires additional work. -- Enric I'm glad Apple agrees with me. Although I imagine the encoding time is a big turn-off unless it happens in the background. And for the record: I think you're the first person to call the QT Pro GUI nice. Simple, certainly. Nice... Not so much. :o) - Andreas On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 18:04:35 +0100, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is true. Its in their features list on the download page for iTunes. Why would you be in disbelief here? Seems like a natural feature and the export option is built into QT Pro. BTW, all the features of QT Pro are accessible from the Quicktime API. This means that when you buy QT Pro you're buying nothing other than the convenience of accessing features that were already on your computer through a nice and simple GUI (which I still think is worth it). -- URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] download google videos
On Jan 15, 2006, at 11:55 AM, Joshua Kinberg wrote: Been meaning to ask you what you thought of the new google video. I think its getting a little better, but its still far from good. Remember though, this is a very new direction for Goog. This is their first real attempt at e-commerce. This is also the first Google Search product that only searches Google's resources... expect similar from Google Base. This is a very interesting shift in strategy for Goog since all other search products are defined by their usefulness in their ability to link outbound from Google. Right now I think the Google Video Store interface needs a lot of work. It is also drastically lacking in terms of mainstream content. Let's compare, Apple started their video store with Desperate Housewives, Lost, and videos from U2 and Madonna. Google started theirs with CSI (okay), old Charlie Rose episodes, and old Brady Bunch episodes. Perhaps the thought of non-mainstream content providers setting their own price for download is attractive... we'll have to wait and see. But I'm told that the purchased videos from Google (I haven't attempted yet) only play in a special Google Video player and are not interoperable with any other media players. To me, this makes the value of their video offering significantly less... I'd be buying something that's designed to be broken (thank you DRM). Now, if I bought something that I could burn to a DVD (fair use if just fo me), shift to my TV somehow, put on my iPod or PSP, etc, then that would be of value. Yeap, I to am really wondering about the DRM issue... some rumored pay content would be purchaseable without DRM, but I'm not going to run out and futz around and purchase content just to find out time will tell. But here's the deal. Google has the luxury of time. They'll get better. They have a history of doing this. Starting with an initial crappy offering and then improving as they go. They've got enough money and engineering talent to see it through. So I guess we just have to wait and see. I agree with you though, I don't see this as being of much real use to videobloggers. -Josh I pretty much agree. I think that perhaps google had to start out closed and slowly open it up... and they'll continue to do so 1) you can't retract access... if you give away to much access and then retract it they'll be huge backlash 2) making such a service to open could potentially expose them to legal liablities All in all what I'm thinking is they're just trying to ease into the game. This is the same way they've rolled out crappy betas of many of their services... it's over time that their ideaologies and principals will become apparent. I could see this one day being useful to vloggers to sell a la carte media... but not in the vlogging process... not in say a paid subscription mechanism... not without serious revisions... anyway, it's got a very long way to go... google has barely scratched the surface and in fact does really have all the time in the world in this early game. About the non-mainstream media... google has never been an exclusivist... their market has always been making things accessible. I don't think google wants to make a store by which they make a lot of money of the few... I think what google's business plan might be is to make a little bit of money of an infinite amount of contnet... call it long tail B.S. or whatever. -Mike On 1/15/06, Michael Meiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Howdy Josh, Been meaning to ask you what you thought of the new google video. It seems to be moving in the right direction. It's still of no practical use to vloggers since you can't enclose a link to a video, but it's no longer quite the media trap it once was, and the potential for anyone to sell videos through it means it could be very accessible and long tail... not just a marketplace for hollywood content. More below. On Jan 15, 2006, at 1:11 AM, Joshua Kinberg wrote: apparently the videos you can purchase through Google Video Store aren't made to be played in common media players. Here's a hack to download AVI versions of the videos: http://www.querocarromogi.com/videogoogle/ I'm not sure about pay only' videos... very interested to hear more, but for free videos if you choose download for ipod or PSP you get a portable standard format mp4 you can take anywhere or do anything with. Anyone else try purchasing content through google video? -Mike -Josh Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: ipod conversion now built into iTunes
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: right... you had to drag the stuff in and it automatically converts. But it still had to convert. Its just that the interface was simple and intuitive. I would think that iTunes will try to make the process roughly the same for video on the iPod. -Josh Perhaps I confused what Andreas was saying. I thought he meant software authors should only provide two codecs and have the user figure out the rest. He may have meant a content authors, in which case I'm mistaken. On software, I think it should automaticaly update perpetually and across platforms. It should always check for new updates. And when there's a new version, it should load a base updater with the option to purchase the upgrade. For different OSes software should have installed base updaters for multiple platforms as much as possible, so when in the future someone loads OS X on a system that also has Win XP. Then the software would give the option to purchase online the OS X version, download and install it. -- Enric On 1/15/06, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Those authors will have limited sales or go out of business. The average user doesn't want another step to figure out a codec to make their video work. They want it to simply work and will bypass products that requires additional work. Not necessarily true. What did you have to do to get your CDs on your iPod? -Josh I put the CD in my drive, the songs appear in iTunes with the CD icon. I drag the songs to the Library. They automaticaly convert. When I plugin my iPod the songs automaticaly update to the iPod. No additional codecs to run, no outside software to figure out through manuals or website instructions. Insert, drag, plugin -- standard and mainly intuitive human actions. -- Enric On 1/15/06, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Haugstrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe it's because Michael was in hard disagreement with me and others in that last long long thread on the vertigo list. I said then and still think it should be the user's responsibility that content plays on their device, not the author's. Ie. I provide only one or two formats and the user can then convert to whatever format suits his needs, because he is the only one who knows what fits him. Those authors will have limited sales or go out of business. The average user doesn't want another step to figure out a codec to make their video work. They want it to simply work and will bypass products that requires additional work. -- Enric I'm glad Apple agrees with me. Although I imagine the encoding time is a big turn-off unless it happens in the background. And for the record: I think you're the first person to call the QT Pro GUI nice. Simple, certainly. Nice... Not so much. :o) - Andreas On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 18:04:35 +0100, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is true. Its in their features list on the download page for iTunes. Why would you be in disbelief here? Seems like a natural feature and the export option is built into QT Pro. BTW, all the features of QT Pro are accessible from the Quicktime API. This means that when you buy QT Pro you're buying nothing other than the convenience of accessing features that were already on your computer through a nice and simple GUI (which I still think is worth it). -- URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: the clerks videoblog
I used to when this thing began subscribe to the entire pipe of something like blogdigger media feeds and well a half dozen other sources... now the pipe is soo damn fat it'd take me a month to look at a 24 hour slice of such media. I haven't in fact taken a look at what's coming out of the firehose in about 6 months.. but at some point I'll probably will if only to get a good sense of how things are progressing... What are people sharing... what are the trends... what's new and unexpected... it's not something you do everyday. What I'm looking for is new levels of filters... more practical filters that I can integrate into my day to day so I will be subscribing to your feed jay. BTW, one of the things I've been playing with recently is favorited video feeds on mefeedia... I expect I'll be playing with them on flickr too... We need much better systems, particularly ones that use favoriting and tagging to filter and organize media through aggregat actions... it's what delicious does but not very well with media. -Mike On Jan 15, 2006, at 1:44 PM, Jay dedman wrote: That's pretty cool Jay, thanks for the feed... that's going right on my ipod subscription list... BTW, do you dig up new stuff like this every week? im always finding cool videos in my aggregator. we're working on makiing tagging easier so people (like me) could become a filter channel. ill sort through hundreds of videos so you dnt have to. Jay -- Adventures in Videoblogging http://www.momentshowing.net http://getFireAnt.com http://node101.org Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] the clerks videoblog
Jay, what a great find! Two thoughts: (1) the celebrity of the filmmakers is one thing, but its great just to see friends get together and discuss the work and process, and for us to have a lens into that process. (2) damn good marketing wonder if any of these guys subscribes to the group... ;)On 1/15/06, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dont know if you like movies, but heres a cool video: http://clerks2.com/movies/goodbadman560.mov Director Kevin Smith has his friends(Quentin Tarantino and Robert Rodriguez) over to watch his recent cut... and gets feedback. when do we ever get to see stuff like this? jay -- Adventures in Videoblogging http://www.momentshowing.net http://getFireAnt.com http://node101.org YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- Ted Tagamitagami.comU N I V E R S U S . N E T YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] the clerks videoblog
The Kevin Smith videoblog was posted here in this group a long time ago. Here it is back on Oct. 3, 2005: http://groups.google.com/group/videoblogging/browse_thread/thread/ef267ef8fdacdf81/08abebdf2a6e5329?q=kevin+smithrnum=1#08abebdf2a6e5329 -Josh On 1/15/06, Ted Tagami [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jay, what a great find! Two thoughts: (1) the celebrity of the filmmakers is one thing, but its great just to see friends get together and discuss the work and process, and for us to have a lens into that process. (2) damn good marketing wonder if any of these guys subscribes to the group... ;) On 1/15/06, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dont know if you like movies, but heres a cool video: http://clerks2.com/movies/goodbadman560.mov Director Kevin Smith has his friends(Quentin Tarantino and Robert Rodriguez) over to watch his recent cut... and gets feedback. when do we ever get to see stuff like this? jay -- Adventures in Videoblogging http://www.momentshowing.net http://getFireAnt.com http://node101.org YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- Ted Tagami tagami.com U N I V E R S U S . N E T YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: ipod conversion now built into iTunes
On Jan 15, 2006, at 1:17 PM, Joshua Kinberg wrote: right... you had to drag the stuff in and it automatically converts. But it still had to convert. Its just that the interface was simple and intuitive. I would think that iTunes will try to make the process roughly the same for video on the iPod. -Josh The only problem with this ease of use and transparency is video conversion is VERY processor intensive and can in fact take DAYS for say a DVD and hours for a simple podcast. It's not apple that's being a tyrant it's simple technical issues... it's not that the end device shouldn't transcode to the proper format it's that sometimes it simply can't. Anyway, all this such will be offset by a slow standardization on a format like mp3, perhaps that will be mp4. Any guesses? -Mike On 1/15/06, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Those authors will have limited sales or go out of business. The average user doesn't want another step to figure out a codec to make their video work. They want it to simply work and will bypass products that requires additional work. Not necessarily true. What did you have to do to get your CDs on your iPod? -Josh I put the CD in my drive, the songs appear in iTunes with the CD icon. I drag the songs to the Library. They automaticaly convert. When I plugin my iPod the songs automaticaly update to the iPod. No additional codecs to run, no outside software to figure out through manuals or website instructions. Insert, drag, plugin -- standard and mainly intuitive human actions. -- Enric On 1/15/06, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Haugstrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe it's because Michael was in hard disagreement with me and others in that last long long thread on the vertigo list. I said then and still think it should be the user's responsibility that content plays on their device, not the author's. Ie. I provide only one or two formats and the user can then convert to whatever format suits his needs, because he is the only one who knows what fits him. Those authors will have limited sales or go out of business. The average user doesn't want another step to figure out a codec to make their video work. They want it to simply work and will bypass products that requires additional work. -- Enric I'm glad Apple agrees with me. Although I imagine the encoding time is a big turn-off unless it happens in the background. And for the record: I think you're the first person to call the QT Pro GUI nice. Simple, certainly. Nice... Not so much. :o) - Andreas On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 18:04:35 +0100, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is true. Its in their features list on the download page for iTunes. Why would you be in disbelief here? Seems like a natural feature and the export option is built into QT Pro. BTW, all the features of QT Pro are accessible from the Quicktime API. This means that when you buy QT Pro you're buying nothing other than the convenience of accessing features that were already on your computer through a nice and simple GUI (which I still think is worth it). -- URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] the clerks videoblog
The Kevin Smith videoblog was posted here in this group a long time ago. Here it is back on Oct. 3,2005 http://groups.google.com/group/videoblogging/browse_thread/thread/ef267ef8fdacdf81/08abebdf2a6e5329?q=kevin+smithrnum=1#08abebdf2a6e5329 yep..i was just pointing out a cool video from this feed. soemtimes things get lost in the transom. jay -- Adventures in Videoblogging http://www.momentshowing.net http://getFireAnt.com http://node101.org Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Vlogonomics, Part I
I'm just riffing. See what you think: http://tinyurl.com/dqfdg Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Re: Update: CSS/MT help Anyone?
Well, found someone to help. This is the site alpha if you want to see it. www.iheartswitch.com - Alison --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Alison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have $250 for this job (its not a lot, but its something) - Alison --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Alison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello: We don't have much money, but its an amazing product and you'll recieve full credit for integration with a picture on the site! I've been producing a super cool video blogging site where I bring on different guests and they show us how to make cool DIY projects that involve technology. The focus is to get more women into circuits and computer science through fashion and design projects. We have an amazing video blog project and are avid bloggers, but there just isn't enough time in the day for us to do all the editing, designing, filming and integrate it with MT. The site will be presented on the Today SHOW and things are moving beyond fast and we need a third hand. So if you are a skilled Moveable Type/Css/HTML person contact us now! We already have MT set up on the server. You may like the project so much, you want to stay on for free. Really, its that cool. Email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] to find out more. Skills Needed: CSS HTML JAVA MT template knowledge Photoshop (some) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] the clerks videoblog
On Jan 15, 2006, at 2:00 PM, Ted Tagami wrote: Jay, what a great find! Two thoughts: (1) the celebrity of the filmmakers is one thing, but its great just to see friends get together and discuss the work and process, and for us to have a lens into that process. (2) damn good marketing wonder if any of these guys subscribes to the group... ;)Damn, that's exactly what I was thinking too... "cellebrities are people too" :)Sometimes media and the people in it get so abstracted we forget they're human... I think this is one of the legacies of Ebay.. .it turned buyers into sellers and taught us all something about the person on the other end of the phone or other side of the counter.Vlogging is a humanizing thing indeed.And also damn good marketing. :)On 1/15/06, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dont know if you like movies, but heres a cool video: http://clerks2.com/movies/goodbadman560.mov Director Kevin Smith has his friends(Quentin Tarantino and Robert Rodriguez) over to watch his recent cut... and gets feedback. when do we ever get to see stuff like this? jay -- Adventures in Videoblogging http://www.momentshowing.net http://getFireAnt.com http://node101.org YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- Ted Tagamitagami.comU N I V E R S U S . N E T YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Incredible Dog Challenge Podcast and Televised...
Damn, Mike! You do write as much as me, maybe more... Thanks for the props and the attention. There is a lot more multimedia that this podcasting crew put out, it is just not in this flash app. They were quite a pro crew; 3 guys working audio and video and 1 woman announcing and interviewing. They were using the next generation Sony camera, I think it was like an HD pd150, although I cannot remember if it was HD, I just knew I liked it. They did an extensive interview with Leilani and I, and some of the other competitors. It can be found here: http://events.purina.com/ dogs/events/index.aspx?medialist_19 They sure could use some help with information flow and such. I have been there several times and have not been able to remember where everything is. It seems cobbled together, and not well planned from the outset. I would be happy to put you in touch with someone over there. Next time I talk to the IDC organizer, or his right hand man, I will see about getting you in touch with the people working on this site. Mike, one of these times I am going to have to get down to see you across state over there. I need some schooling on syndication. I need to understand it. I am currently riding the coattails of Blip, Feedburner, Mefeedia and iTunes, and while they have enabled me to be functional, I want to be competent. Something about giving a fish vs teaching to fish. Did I mention that I learn much better through discussion? Reading technical stuff online sometimes hurts my brain. Anyway, thanks again. Hope some of the rest of you caught the broadcast. Later, Ron PS - they did not televise a portion of the event that gave the seperation in scores. We were a half point out of first before the accuracy portion, and were several inches on 3 throws from winning this monkey. Oh well, we had fun. On Jan 15, 2006, at 11:00 AM, Michael Meiser wrote: Everyone, for a quick and entertaining clip of Ron doing the frisbee thing with his dog at the 2005 Purina Incredible Dog Challenge check out the following url. He's the last competitor of like 4 and one the event. Highly entertaining... most kick ass dog vlog evar. :) http://www.purina.com/Downloads/Podcasts/Events/IDC2005/ Freestyle_Disc_E.mp4 Duration: 8:13 Eastern Regional – Flying Disc Wed, 04 Jan 2006 14:00:38 -0600 Every bit as much fun for the dog and handler as it is to watch, this freestyle event highlights the creativity of dog and handler. BTW everyone, the feed in case you want to subscribe is below... a tremendous amount of high qualities videos. http://www.purina.com/Downloads/Podcasts/Events/IDC2005/ idc2005_regional.xml I can't believe Purina has their own video podcast, I'm stoked about it. Love to see how video blogging is giving so called alternative sports which seem to be well outside of mainstream a marketplace and a distribution system... stuff that you're not going to find on standard TV or even Cable unless you pay for a couple hundred channels. I'm not going to subscribe to it, well... maybe I will. I'm definitely going to put it in the Mefeedia database. BTW, Ron, it's great to see you in action. Did you consult on them with this video podcast and have you ever thought about just dropping this in your own vlog feed so people can just subscribe and get your appearances instead of you having to specifically point them out via email or some such? Ummm... some bitching about accessibility... On a side note that Purina's flash site... oye! I'm not a huge fan of the monolithic flash apps... being as how I'm an advocate of actually being able to access things. I in fact had to subscribe to their podcast in itunes... get info ant then type in the url in order to find the feed and then go through the feed to find the ipod compatible mp4... it's like WTF I hate you apple and purina.. why you gotta make me jump through unnecessary hoops? :) But of course I don't hate them, they just need to learn to stop whomping on their customers because this is an economy of information where accessibility rules the day... and in fact they would get their videos viewed by 100x as many people if they put it on an open accessible web page with an open accessible feed and used something like feedburner.com to generate all the proper RSS (full mRSS and RSS 2.0, instead of just apple crap)... which would submit it to yahoo video search and ping all the major blog search and tracking services ...but then heh! ...everyone knows I'm just a cranky ole' vlogger fart. :) Maybe Purina doesn't want their video to be seen and ACCESSED by as many potential fans as possible... maybe their not doing it for advertising, marketing and exposure to current and potential fans... to the long tail of pet lovers and dog food purchasers... maybe they just went through all the trouble to put it online so a very few select people could see it and think they were hip and with it or
[videoblogging] Employment opportunity
I thought the following advertisement might be of interest for some of those reading this list: Looking for cameraman who have never been to JapanReply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: 2006-01-12, 3:38PM We are a Japanese TV production coordination company in San Francisco, CA. We currently help a TV production company to produce a special TV program in Japan.This program is still on pre-production stage.We are seeking a cameraman (either Video or Film industries) who have never been to Japan and do not know much about the country. We would like that person to visit to Japan to shoot video footage about Japan with its own point-of-view. We plan to make a short documentary about that person as part of the program. We will provide “transportation cost (i.e. Airline economy class only)”, “accommodation”, and “meal allowance during the shoot”.PROGRAM:Main theme is “World’s impression about Japan”, such as:- How do other countries see Japan?- How do other countries think about Japan?HOW TO APPLY:You must qualify the condition as follows:(1) You have never been to Japan, or you never thought about going to Japan;(2) You know the country, but not with detail;(3) You do not have any interests about Japan;(4) You do not have Japanese friends;(5) You must be able to operate a cameraIf you qualify the above condition and are interested, please send us e-mail with the following information:(1) Your full name;(2) Where you live;(3) Your resume(4) Your portfolio or sample video of your work(5) Explain why you don have any interests in JapanThank you very much. Original URL: http://losangeles.craigslist.org/ats/124853976.html -this craigslist posting was forwarded to you by someone using ouremail-a-friend feature - if you want to prevent these, please go to:http://www.craigslist.org/cgi-bin/te/3hmcrNWaAJXZ0B3bs52bl5Wal5mLAAAdy- Randolfe (Randy) Wicker Videographer, Writer, ActivistAdvisor: The Immortality Institutehttp://www.blip.tv/posts/?user=Randolfe%20WickerHoboken, NJhttp://www.randywickerreporting.blogspot.com/201-656-3280 YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Anaheim, CA: Video Blogging NAMM
Is there a video blogger that will be covering NAMM show (National Association of Music Merchants) next week? http://www.thenammshow.com/ Ashley is seeking a vlogger that wants to take their production to the next level. CES 2006 Demo Reel: http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=thefaded -Jack http://view-point.blogspot.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] Beware: Yahoo Beacons
I got a story suggestion to Rocketboom that I pasted below: --- If you belong to ANY Yahoo Groups - including this one - be aware that Yahoo is now using Web Beacons to track every Yahoo Group user. It's similar to cookies, but allows Yahoo to record every website and every group you visit, even when you're not connected to Yahoo. Look at their updated privacy statement at http://privacy.yahoo.com/privacy. About half-way down the page, in the section on cookies, you will see a link that says WEB BEACONS. Click on the phrase Web Beacons. On the page that opens, find a paragraph entitled Outside the Yahoo Network. In that section find a little Click Here to Opt Out link that will let you opt-out of their snooping. Be careful! NOT to click on the next button shown. It is an Opt Back In button that, if clicked, will UNDO the opt-out. Note that Yahoo's invasion of your privacy – and your ability to opt- out of it – is not user-specific. It is MACHINE specific. That means you will have to opt-out on every computer (and browser) you use. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Beware: Yahoo Beacons
Thanks for that Andrew, the last thing I want is yahoo knowing my bank details. Paul Knight On 15 Jan 2006, at 23:14, andrew michael baron wrote: I got a story suggestion to Rocketboom that I pasted below: --- If you belong to ANY Yahoo Groups - including this one - be aware that Yahoo is now using Web Beacons to track every Yahoo Group user. It's similar to cookies, but allows Yahoo to record every website and every group you visit, even when you're not connected to Yahoo. Look at their updated privacy statement at http://privacy.yahoo.com/privacy. About half-way down the page, in the section on cookies, you will see a link that says WEB BEACONS. Click on the phrase Web Beacons. On the page that opens, find a paragraph entitled Outside the Yahoo Network. In that section find a little Click Here to Opt Out link that will let you opt-out of their snooping. Be careful! NOT to click on the next button shown. It is an Opt Back In button that, if clicked, will UNDO the opt-out. Note that Yahoo's invasion of your privacy – and your ability to opt- out of it – is not user-specific. It is MACHINE specific. That means you will have to opt-out on every computer (and browser) you use. Yahoo! Groups Links Do yourself a favour and Visit my Vlog http://pjkproductions.blogspot.com It's worth a laugh and work friendly. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] kids make vlogging dangerous
over the weekend my friend's 7 year old brother, justin, grabbed the mini dv and began walking around the house; instead of dismissing him like we usually do, we viewed the videos he had saved on the camera and we got this: http://collegewit.com/media/videos/weirdosonlaptops.wmv untrained, he gave his own commentary and he did so simply b/c he was inspired by thevideos section ( http://collegewit.com/index.php?cat=15)of the College Wit site that he always hears his sister and i talking about we realized in a moment that as soon as Justin learns to upload videos on the internet, private moments like this with mel and i sitting around in pajamas, giving ourselves beauty treatments while typing on our comps will easily become exposed! (from now on all zit therapy sessions will take place behind closed and locked doors!) i just thought i would share with all of you how easy it is for little kids to pick up on vlogging, i.e., talk about your own vids and give them a mini dv for their birthdays! -brainy founder http://collegewit.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Vlogonomics, Part I
...Eric Rice's Epsilon construct.. is that the same as the 4x4 grid he was talking about? Eric, did you ever post that matrix? I saw a whiteboard glimpse of it in the video chat...On 1/15/06, Chuck Olsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm just riffing. See what you think: http://tinyurl.com/dqfdg YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- Ted Tagamitagami.comU N I V E R S U S . N E T SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Come be a WATM Reporter!
Registration links: http://wearethemedia.com/2006/01/15/want-to-write-for-watm/Have you ever seen a peice of news that would look great on We Are The Media? Have you found the latest and greatest vlog that nobody knows about? Well registration is open at WATM for new reporters. Go get yourself registered and write that article that you want the vlogging community to see.By becomeing a writer for WATM you agree to abide by the guidelines and have your work edited by the editors. Here are the basic rules, but make sure you go read all the guidelines before writing an article.1. Keep it positive. No mudslinging.2. Your article should be about vlogging. No articles to the latest viral commercial. 3. No blatant self promotion. It just doesn't look good.What we like here at WATM is articles about vlogging and glowing reviews for the vlogs you love. Now go sign up and get to writing. -- Josh Leojoshleo.comstonefarm.blogspot.comjoshspicks.blogspot.com vlogcats.blogspot.comwearethemedia.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Good political videoblogs?
Hi - I'm doing a meet the vloggers type thing in Montreal - we started a videoblogging group in December, and Tuesday is our second meeting (at 7pm if there are any montreal readers...). I'm wondering if anyone has suggestions for good activist/political videoblogs? Last time I did one of these I got some feedback/criticism that I wasn't featuring any of this type of content, and I assured the person it was out there. But now that I think about it...can anyone suggest anyone? And not politicians campaign videoblogs - we're having an election here now and there is some of that stuff floating around, but I mean using videoblogging as a tool for social change or activism. Suggestions? Thanks! And Happy New Year to you all! Brett http://www.etherworks.ca http://www.movl.org http://www.homelessnation.org SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Beware: Yahoo Beacons
yeah someone mentioned this to the list early this weektook care of it at home and at work...On 1/15/06, Paul Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Thanks for that Andrew, the last thing I want is yahoo knowing my bank details.Paul KnightOn 15 Jan 2006, at 23:14, andrew michael baron wrote: I got a story suggestion to Rocketboom that I pasted below: --- If you belong to ANY Yahoo Groups - including this one - be aware that Yahoo is now using Web Beacons to track every Yahoo Group user.It's similar to cookies, but allows Yahoo to record every website and every group you visit, even when you're not connected to Yahoo. Look at their updated privacy statement at http://privacy.yahoo.com/privacy. About half-way down the page, in the section on cookies, you will see a link that says WEB BEACONS. Click on the phrase Web Beacons.On the page that opens, find a paragraph entitled Outside the Yahoo Network. In that section find a little Click Here to Opt Out link that will let you opt-out of their snooping. Be careful! NOT to click on the next button shown. It is an Opt Back In button that, if clicked, will UNDO the opt-out. Note that Yahoo's invasion of your privacy – and your ability to opt- out of it – is not user-specific.It is MACHINE specific. That means you will have to opt-out on every computer (and browser) you use. Yahoo! Groups Links Do yourself a favour and Visit my Vloghttp://pjkproductions.blogspot.comIt's worth a laugh and work friendly. Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/-- Josh Leojoshleo.comstonefarm.blogspot.com joshspicks.blogspot.comvlogcats.blogspot.comwearethemedia.com SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] New to Vlogging/Blue Guitar Video
Hello Rich - I enjoyed your video. I am an amateur player that can strum a few chords. I was hoping to get a close up of your fingers as you took us through the first fingerpicking lesson. I saw Joe Beck play at a local jazz club a few months back, and was lucky enough to have permission to record the sessions. They didn't turn out the best, as it was ad hoc, but I was very pleased to see that Joe offered lessons via video at his web site. You can see the video I shot back then and the links to his video lessons at http://www.joebeckmusic.com/. I hope that we see more professionals, whether they be doctors, auto mechanics or musicians, from all walks of life sharing their techniques and knowledge with us through video. I look forward to seeing more of your work! Best, - TedOn 1/15/06, Rich OBrien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm new to vlogging. I have been podcasting for about a year, and have just posted my first vlog on my website. The vlog name is Blue Guitar Video. It is a guitar lesson called Fingerpicking 101. I have also posted it on Google Video. It is in Quicktime format. Here is the link to the video on my website. http://www.robrien.net/lessons/index.htm I am a singer-songwriter looking to give guitar lessons over the web and also to branch out into live performances, maybe interviews with other artists/performances, etc. I'm more of a musician than a computer technician and work with a webmaster to get things online. I have converted this video to the Itunes format, but am not exactly sure how to get the RSS feed so that I can submit it. Any suggestions from the group would be appreciated. Rich O'Brien www.robrien.net SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- Ted Tagamitagami.comU N I V E R S U S . N E T YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Long and File Size: Revisiting the question
I find myself revisiting this question every time I post a large file to my vlog. How much is too much? At what point will you (personally, yourself, as a vlog watcher): 1) Stop downloading the file. 2) Stop watching the movie (how many minutes, assuming it's not too boring). Just curious about the answers-- someone recently said they wanted longer than 10-minute vlogs, because they wanted to really sit down and watch stuff, but I wonder about that. A 10 minute vlog is 30 MB, easily. A 40 minute vlog would be almost 100 MB? Is that worth your time, bandwidth, and download speed? Would it make more sense to stream instead? --Stephanie -- Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vlog: http://mortaine.blogspot.com Audioblog: http://bookramble.blogspot.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Long and File Size: Revisiting the question
a lot of people seem to download Democracy Now, which is roughly an hour and usually something around 120 MB. Personally, I can't watch anything much over 3 minutes, whether its a vlog or a TV show. I really don't like to see vlog entries that are more than 30 MB. Again, this is simply a personal preference and is in no way a guideline. -Josh On 1/15/06, Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find myself revisiting this question every time I post a large file to my vlog. How much is too much? At what point will you (personally, yourself, as a vlog watcher): 1) Stop downloading the file. 2) Stop watching the movie (how many minutes, assuming it's not too boring). Just curious about the answers-- someone recently said they wanted longer than 10-minute vlogs, because they wanted to really sit down and watch stuff, but I wonder about that. A 10 minute vlog is 30 MB, easily. A 40 minute vlog would be almost 100 MB? Is that worth your time, bandwidth, and download speed? Would it make more sense to stream instead? --Stephanie -- Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vlog: http://mortaine.blogspot.com Audioblog: http://bookramble.blogspot.com Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [videoblogging] Long and File Size: Revisiting the question
I personally like smaller vlogs. 3 minutes is long enough for me.I'm pretty impatient when it comes to download times. Assuming its entertaining enough to watch 30 mins, I would consider it.I also limit my videos to under 3 mins but that's usually because that's all the footage I have. My camera doesn't have much memory. CheersJoanhttp://rantingsofjoan.blogspot.comOn 1/16/06, Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I find myself revisiting this question every time I post a large file to my vlog.How much is too much? At what point will you (personally, yourself, asa vlog watcher):1) Stop downloading the file.2) Stop watching the movie (how many minutes, assuming it's not too boring). Just curious about the answers-- someone recently said they wantedlonger than 10-minute vlogs, because they wanted to really sit downand watch stuff, but I wonder about that. A 10 minute vlog is 30 MB, easily. A 40 minute vlog would be almost 100 MB? Is that worth yourtime, bandwidth, and download speed? Would it make more sense tostream instead?--Stephanie--Stephanie Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED]Vlog: http://mortaine.blogspot.comAudioblog: http://bookramble.blogspot.comYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Good political videoblogs?
i like http://thisrevolution.blogspot.com/ http://luxomedia.com/vlog Brett Gaylor wrote: Hi - I'm doing a "meet the vloggers" type thing in Montreal - we started a videoblogging group in December, and Tuesday is our second meeting (at 7pm if there are any montreal readers...). I'm wondering if anyone has suggestions for good activist/political videoblogs? Last time I did one of these I got some feedback/criticism that I wasn't featuring any of this type of content, and I assured the person it was out there. But now that I think about it...can anyone suggest anyone? And not politicians campaign videoblogs - we're having an election here now and there is some of that stuff floating around, but I mean using videoblogging as a tool for social change or activism. Suggestions? Thanks! And Happy New Year to you all! Brett http://www.etherworks.ca http://www.movl.org http://www.homelessnation.org -- My name is Markus Sandy and I am app.etitio.us http://apperceptions.org http://digitaldojo.blogspot.com http://node101.org http://spinflow.org http://wearethemedia.com http://xpressionvlog.blogspot.com aim/ichat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: msandy spin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Check out ELECTRIC CATWALK
New video podcast... daily posts. Fashion, Shopping, Hot Trends and Celebrity Style... get your daily video dose of ELECTRIC CATWALK. http://electriccatwalk.libsyn.com/ feed://electriccatwalk.libsyn.com/rss Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[videoblogging] The PAN!
January 16, 2006 From the desk of The Public Address Network (The PAN): Finally all your prayers are answered. Yes my friends, The PAN is LIVE!! You! The proletariat a.k.a. working stiff, this is for you, because you deserve better. You, in fact, deserve the best! Are you tired of spending your hard earned cash on $2.99 movie downloads of Dukes of Hazzard, Vice is Right, and other DVDs and so such? We at The PAN, through detailed research and analysis of current trends have determined what you need! We are committed to bringing the best video entertainment directly to your little video gadgets, at a rock bottom, low cost of Zero dollars, that's right, you heard me, Zero, Zilch, Nada, nothing! Absolutely FREE!!! You may be asking yourself, what exactly is The PAN ? The PAN feed is a video download, available through iTunes and other RSS readers, with delicious new content, each and every business day of the week. Each feed is full of savory morsels of video delight. Our team of trained professionals works around the cock developing original content, to fill the void in your downloading diet. They ceaselessly scour the web for unique videos, to round out your daily intake of quality programming. Demand the very best! Don't go home unsatisfied! The PAN will fulfill you! Executive Summary: Prayers, answeredWorking stiffsHungry?Vice is RightHandshakesEntertainment GadgetsGold Plated Porcelain BasinMobile Thank you, Mica, Adam, and the PAN team Meet our contributors – http://thepan.org/contributors/ Visit The PAN – http://thepan.org/ -- Mica ScalinHello?http://publicaddress.typepad.comhttp://www.micascalin.net SPONSORED LINKS Individual Fireant Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
