Re: [videoblogging] veoh article with "interesting" statements from the company

[Michael Sullivan]

sure seems that way.. ha.  thank god for messages like Robert's! What a great reminder to the power of this medium.. that is underused.i'm such a monkey in the middle, ain't i?  sull
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hey sull!this is the internet. the metric is the message!(joke)On 4/20/06, 
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but now veoh works differently.  so whatever.and... their is no law about screwing up someones server stats.whats more important, making media and distributing it or reading your stats for novelty?the message or the metric?  
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I'm talking about HTTP stats that would be known to the server serving up the content.
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I'm sure Veoh will/does provide statistics to it's users.

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: veoh

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it is not "way different".so, tell me like i'm a 5 year old, michael.  what is the issue...  because it seems to me that your 2 points infer attribution concerns and are also speculation, which gets us nowhere at this point.  
look, i'm seeing this whole thing from a middle seat.  i've plainly said what i didnt like about veoh and likewise what i do like and that i am very pleased at the response taken.  sull
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I don't think this is the issue. Mefeedia is a directory/aggregator - that links to videoblogs. FireAnt is an aggregator with a directory that links to videoblogs. This is way different than being a distribution system that appears as if they have all of these videobloggers that have chosen to host their stuff on their servers.
Like you said, it's what you do with the content. Yes Veoh has stopped doing what they we're doing...but1. I don't think it was an innocent mistake - they're too smart for that.2. The other day in an interview they tried to blame it on a buggy system (that wasn't in place at the time) instead of accepting blame for a bad practice.
It's NOT "about the attribution, more than anything else!"-VerdiOn 4/20/06, 
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right... basically every service allows submissions.some require you to register (fireant.tv), others dont.

but some also suck in content automatically.i'm just making sure hypocrisy on that front gets wiped out.
you cant stick it to veoh while other services do the same thing.and there is nothing wrong with sucking in RSS feeds.it's what you do with that content within the bounds of your service that matters the most.
mefeedia is totally legit.  veoh wasnt, but apparently it seems settled now.mefeedia and veoh were very similar in this respect.  so if you have a problem with how veoh got the content more so than the lack of attribution, than your basically having a problem with mefeedia and any other service that does this.
its about the attribution, more than anything else!sull
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it's still more about the attribution more than anything else
 
mefeedia "aquires" feeds too.  i dont have a problem with that.  do you?I don't know if 'acquire' is the right word sull.  People can submit feeds to Mefeedia, much like they can on Veoh afaik. 
Just had to butt in there ;)


the attribution issue has been addressed.  i am satisfied.  are you?

 
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Its not just that the work is a derivative, or that its a full cliprather than a "preview" -- the bigger issue for me is that Veoh used 
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Re: [videoblogging] veoh article with "interesting" statements from the company

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hey sull!this is the internet. the metric is the message!(joke)On 4/20/06, Michael Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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but now veoh works differently.  so whatever.and... their is no law about screwing up someones server stats.whats more important, making media and distributing it or reading your stats for novelty?the message or the metric?  
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I'm talking about HTTP stats that would be known to the server serving up the content.
If Veoh has taken your content via RSS unbeknownst to you and is redistributing it from their servers as though you are one of their users who has opted in to the service (but you are not), then you would never know your content is being redistributed there and would have zero knowledge of the viewing statistics.

 
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I'm sure Veoh will/does provide statistics to it's users.

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Re: [videoblogging] veoh article with "interesting" statements from the company

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but now veoh works differently.  so whatever.and... their is no law about screwing up someones server stats.whats more important, making media and distributing it or reading your stats for novelty?the message or the metric?  
sullOn 4/20/06, Joshua Kinberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



I'm talking about HTTP stats that would be known to the server serving up the content.
If Veoh has taken your content via RSS unbeknownst to you and is redistributing it from their servers as though you are one of their users who has opted in to the service (but you are not), then you would never know your content is being redistributed there and would have zero knowledge of the viewing statistics.

 
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I'm sure Veoh will/does provide statistics to it's users.

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: veoh

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I don't think this is the issue. Mefeedia is a directory/aggregator - that links to videoblogs. FireAnt is an aggregator with a directory that links to videoblogs. This is way different than being a distribution system that appears as if they have all of these videobloggers that have chosen to host their stuff on their servers.
Like you said, it's what you do with the content. Yes Veoh has stopped doing what they we're doing...but1. I don't think it was an innocent mistake - they're too smart for that.2. The other day in an interview they tried to blame it on a buggy system (that wasn't in place at the time) instead of accepting blame for a bad practice.
It's NOT "about the attribution, more than anything else!"-VerdiOn 4/20/06, Michael Sullivan <
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right... basically every service allows submissions.some require you to register (fireant.tv), others dont.
but some also suck in content automatically.i'm just making sure hypocrisy on that front gets wiped out.
you cant stick it to veoh while other services do the same thing.and there is nothing wrong with sucking in RSS feeds.it's what you do with that content within the bounds of your service that matters the most.
mefeedia is totally legit.  veoh wasnt, but apparently it seems settled now.mefeedia and veoh were very similar in this respect.  so if you have a problem with how veoh got the content more so than the lack of attribution, than your basically having a problem with mefeedia and any other service that does this.
its about the attribution, more than anything else!sullOn 4/20/06, 
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it's still more about the attribution more than anything else
 
mefeedia "aquires" feeds too.  i dont have a problem with that.  do you?I don't know if 'acquire' is the right word sull.  People can submit feeds to Mefeedia, much like they can on Veoh afaik. 
Just had to butt in there ;)

the attribution issue has been addressed.  i am satisfied.  are you?

 
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Its not just that the work is a derivative, or that its a full cliprather than a "preview" -- the bigger issue for me is that Veoh used 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: veoh

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 but I do not believe they had the right intentions inthe first place.
tricky, it is... right?like the fireant promo videos which i am guessing are people who dont use or never heard of fireant and were picked off the street  of course, like you that is just a piece of speculation.  but wouldnt that be dishonest  too?
or maybe i can speculate on why fireant.tv doesnt link to other projects in this space since launching your new directory... blip does, mefeedia does, vlogdir does, vlogmap does, vb-universe does.  again, busy i know.  but this is where speculation can get nasty.
frankly, i am tired of hearing about it.  veoh heard the complaints and acted.  does apple do this?  any other company listen and act as veoh has done?  let's get honest, shall we?sull
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No, its not about attribution.Its about falsely portraying people as members of your community whenthey are not. Its about dishonesty and bad business practice.I do feel that Veoh took the right steps to solve the problem in a
timely fashion, but I do not believe they had the right intentions inthe first place.-JoshOn 4/20/06, Michael Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> it's still more about the attribution more than anything else>> mefeedia "aquires" feeds too.  i dont have a problem with that.  do you?>> the attribution issue has been addressed.  i am satisfied.  are you?
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> rather than a "preview" -- the bigger issue for me is that Veoh used> vloggers and their content to make it seem as though they had a> growing and vibrant community, people who've signed up, agreed to
> terms of service, and were participants in the Veoh community. This> was not true. They took people's content and made bogus profiles for> them. They forced "users" into an opt out situation when they had
> never in fact opted in. This is dishonest.>> -josh>>> On 4/20/06, Markus Sandy < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > exactly!!!
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: veoh

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No, its not about attribution.oh no?  i do recall you thinking i was somewhat nuts to not participate in sucking in feeds from 
blip.tv as mefeedia chose to do.  now, maybe you didnt get to setting it up for fireant.tv, or maybe you decided i was right either way, make up your mind.  
and you didnt answer my question.  do you have a problem with mefeedia having thousands of RSS feed that were not submitted by humans... thus creating, as you suggest and speculate, a false sense of an active and popular community?
like i said, i dont have a problem and i am glad that mefeedia exists.i didnt want to take that approach for vlogdir, but i think there is nothing wrong with doing this.i ask again, do you have a problem with mefeedia sucking in feeds?
what if mefeedia was funded or looking to land some investment money?i guess i am just trying to get your balanced opinion... and hoping that you are not putting down a potential fireant competitor.. like you recently did when you pissed on vsocial.
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No, its not about attribution.Its about falsely portraying people as members of your community whenthey are not. Its about dishonesty and bad business practice.I do feel that Veoh took the right steps to solve the problem in a
timely fashion, but I do not believe they had the right intentions inthe first place.-JoshOn 4/20/06, Michael Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> it's still more about the attribution more than anything else>> mefeedia "aquires" feeds too.  i dont have a problem with that.  do you?>> the attribution issue has been addressed.  i am satisfied.  are you?
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: veoh

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right... basically every service allows submissions.some require you to register (fireant.tv), others dont.but some also suck in content automatically.i'm just making sure hypocrisy on that front gets wiped out.
you cant stick it to veoh while other services do the same thing.and there is nothing wrong with sucking in RSS feeds.it's what you do with that content within the bounds of your service that matters the most.
mefeedia is totally legit.  veoh wasnt, but apparently it seems settled now.mefeedia and veoh were very similar in this respect.  so if you have a problem with how veoh got the content more so than the lack of attribution, than your basically having a problem with mefeedia and any other service that does this.
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it's still more about the attribution more than anything else
 
mefeedia "aquires" feeds too.  i dont have a problem with that.  do you?I don't know if 'acquire' is the right word sull.  People can submit feeds to Mefeedia, much like they can on Veoh afaik. 
Just had to butt in there ;)
the attribution issue has been addressed.  i am satisfied.  are you?

 
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Its not just that the work is a derivative, or that its a full cliprather than a "preview" -- the bigger issue for me is that Veoh used 
vloggers and their content to make it seem as though they had agrowing and vibrant community, people who've signed up, agreed toterms of service, and were participants in the Veoh community. Thiswas not true. They took people's content and made bogus profiles for 
them. They forced "users" into an opt out situation when they hadnever in fact opted in. This is dishonest.-joshOn 4/20/06, Markus Sandy <


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[videoblogging] Re: Wordpress Template Questions

[usadutch2001]

Hi Jeff

Rocketboom is not using WordPress but Movable type or MT as they say.
( see http://www.sixapart.com/movabletype/)

I use WordPress on several websites and have about 250 templates but
nothing looks like RB.

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Re: [videoblogging] Wordpress Template Questions

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Hey Jeff,You might try looking for "photo blog" Wordpress themes. Other than that you can modify most any theme to not include a sidebar and then set the number of posts that show on the main page to 1.
-VerdiOn 4/20/06, Jeff Marquis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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Re: [videoblogging] veoh article with "interesting" statements from the company

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Wow, you should shave Steve.On 4/20/06, Steve Garfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Go look at 'my' profile:

http://veoh.com/users/steve

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: So with the exception of Dylan Verdi (sp?) I can't find any childrens vlogs??

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Hmmm, let's see. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that a bunch of 20, 30, and 40+ year old geeks think it's cool. If I'm not mistaken, the last time I checked that was a statistic that would pretty much make videoblogging uninteresting to anyone still in school.
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Re: [videoblogging] veoh article with "interesting" statements from the company

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Go look at 'my' profile:

http://veoh.com/users/steve

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[videoblogging] Advertise Your Vlog

[blaknoiz67]

Hi all,
I run a site call chartreuse (beta)  and I write about video blogging sometimes. 
I thought it would be cool if I let some vloggers advertise their vlogs on my site. 
All I ask is that it be less than 30 seconds and mention the name of my site  in the ad. That's it.
One of my readers already made one so you can check that out .
My site is not huge but gets a decent amount of readers . And I think this will be fun and others may start doing the same thing...
 
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Re: [videoblogging] veoh article with "interesting" statements from the company

[Joshua Kinberg]

I'm talking about HTTP stats that would be known to the server serving up the content.
If Veoh has taken your content via RSS unbeknownst to you and is redistributing it from their servers as though you are one of their users who has opted in to the service (but you are not), then you would never know your content is being redistributed there and would have zero knowledge of the viewing statistics.

 
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I'm sure Veoh will/does provide statistics to it's users.

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: veoh

[robert a/k/a r]

Cmon. Lighten up. It was a just a mistake in the first place  :-0)

http://snipurl.com/694s




On Apr 20, 2006, at 7:39 PM, Joshua Kinberg wrote:

> No, its not about attribution.
> Its about falsely portraying people as members of your community when
> they are not. Its about dishonesty and bad business practice.
>
> I do feel that Veoh took the right steps to solve the problem in a
> timely fashion, but I do not believe they had the right intentions in
> the first place.
>
> -Josh
>
>
> On 4/20/06, Michael Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> it's still more about the attribution more than anything else
>>
>> mefeedia "aquires" feeds too.  i dont have a problem with that.  do 
>> you?
>>
>> the attribution issue has been addressed.  i am satisfied.  are you?
>>
>> sull
>>
>> On 4/20/06, Joshua Kinberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
>>>
>> Its not just that the work is a derivative, or that its a full clip
>> rather than a "preview" -- the bigger issue for me is that Veoh used
>> vloggers and their content to make it seem as though they had a
>> growing and vibrant community, people who've signed up, agreed to
>> terms of service, and were participants in the Veoh community. This
>> was not true. They took people's content and made bogus profiles for
>> them. They forced "users" into an opt out situation when they had
>> never in fact opted in. This is dishonest.
>>
>> -josh
>>
>>
>> On 4/20/06, Markus Sandy < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> exactly!!!
>>>
>>>
>>> Michael Verdi wrote:
>>> For many videobloggers the previews were long enough to be the 
>>> complete
>>> work.
>>>
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: PJKPRODUCTIONS IN THE US!!!

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This stuff is gold guys, could we get it added to the wiki?On 4/20/06, Bill Streeter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Yeah I looked this up on google maps and the 16th street station is
slightly closer than the civic center station but the civic center
station is on the same street and probably less confusing to an out of
towner. It's almost exactly a mile from the SAH. And Enric asures me
that it's not one big hill either so it should be walkable--proivided
you don't have a lot of luggage. If so I'm sure you could cab it that
last mile. 

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> >>you'll either want to get off 
> at 16th st. Mission or Civic Center (on Market Street). The walk from 
> both stops is not bad, as long as you aren't loaded up too heavy.<<
> 
> ...and if you are loaded up too heavy, there is a street car which
runs up Market St. and should let you off pretty close to the hotel.
> 
> NOTE FOR INCOMING PARTICIPANTS:
> 
> "Street cars" and "Cable cars" are two different vehicles.  Natives
would appreciate it if you don't confuse the two.  "Street cars" are
connected to overhead lines, "Cable cars" run on underground cables.
> 
> Also, while I'm trying to help the group become Politically Correct,
it is "San Francisco" not "Frisco."  People have suffered severe
bodily harm from using the latter term.  (Kind of like a Brit asking
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[videoblogging] Re: PJKPRODUCTIONS IN THE US!!!

[Bill Streeter]

Yeah I looked this up on google maps and the 16th street station is
slightly closer than the civic center station but the civic center
station is on the same street and probably less confusing to an out of
towner. It's almost exactly a mile from the SAH. And Enric asures me
that it's not one big hill either so it should be walkable--proivided
you don't have a lot of luggage. If so I'm sure you could cab it that
last mile. 

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--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "BevSykes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> >>you'll either want to get off 
> at 16th st. Mission or Civic Center (on Market Street). The walk from 
> both stops is not bad, as long as you aren't loaded up too heavy.<<
> 
> ...and if you are loaded up too heavy, there is a street car which
runs up Market St. and should let you off pretty close to the hotel.
> 
> NOTE FOR INCOMING PARTICIPANTS:
> 
> "Street cars" and "Cable cars" are two different vehicles.  Natives
would appreciate it if you don't confuse the two.  "Street cars" are
connected to overhead lines, "Cable cars" run on underground cables.
> 
> Also, while I'm trying to help the group become Politically Correct,
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bodily harm from using the latter term.  (Kind of like a Brit asking
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: veoh

[Joshua Kinberg]

No, its not about attribution.
Its about falsely portraying people as members of your community when
they are not. Its about dishonesty and bad business practice.

I do feel that Veoh took the right steps to solve the problem in a
timely fashion, but I do not believe they had the right intentions in
the first place.

-Josh


On 4/20/06, Michael Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> it's still more about the attribution more than anything else
>
> mefeedia "aquires" feeds too.  i dont have a problem with that.  do you?
>
> the attribution issue has been addressed.  i am satisfied.  are you?
>
> sull
>
> On 4/20/06, Joshua Kinberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> >
> Its not just that the work is a derivative, or that its a full clip
> rather than a "preview" -- the bigger issue for me is that Veoh used
> vloggers and their content to make it seem as though they had a
> growing and vibrant community, people who've signed up, agreed to
> terms of service, and were participants in the Veoh community. This
> was not true. They took people's content and made bogus profiles for
> them. They forced "users" into an opt out situation when they had
> never in fact opted in. This is dishonest.
>
> -josh
>
>
> On 4/20/06, Markus Sandy < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > exactly!!!
> >
> >
> > Michael Verdi wrote:
> > For many videobloggers the previews were long enough to be the complete
> > work.
> >
> >
> > --
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>
> Markus Sandy
>
> http://apperceptions.org
> http://spinflow.org
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: veoh

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On 4/20/06, Michael Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



it's still more about the attribution more than anything else
 
mefeedia "aquires" feeds too.  i dont have a problem with that.  do you?I don't know if 'acquire' is the right word sull.  People can submit feeds to Mefeedia, much like they can on Veoh afaik. 
Just had to butt in there ;)the attribution issue has been addressed.  i am satisfied.  are you?

 
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Its not just that the work is a derivative, or that its a full cliprather than a "preview" -- the bigger issue for me is that Veoh used 
vloggers and their content to make it seem as though they had agrowing and vibrant community, people who've signed up, agreed toterms of service, and were participants in the Veoh community. Thiswas not true. They took people's content and made bogus profiles for 
them. They forced "users" into an opt out situation when they hadnever in fact opted in. This is dishonest.-joshOn 4/20/06, Markus Sandy <

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Can vloggers hack mountains

[robert a/k/a r]

MN Stories is a perfect example of what I'm in the mood to ramble on 
about, and an excellent example to those who will be inspired to vlog 
for causes local and global.

Chuck, is the goals of MN Stories' community awareness or is it broade? 
Is there a financial component (i.e., fund raising for community 
projects, sponsorships, etc.) or is MNS strictly feed-the-brain?



On Apr 20, 2006, at 4:28 PM, Chuck Olsen wrote:

> ...Minnesota Stories sometimes dents molehills. Definitely
> approaching things form the hyperlocal level, equally important
> as the global. My goal is for it to be a place for otherwise unheard
> voices. Most of the time it's just entertaining stuff around town,
> but it's going in interesting directions.
> ...
>
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>>
>> Wasn't vlogging going to be a tool to help change / improve the world?
>> Wouldn't it help differentiate vloggers from those, who happen to be 
>> of
>> great number, who just post entertaining video (not that I have
>> anything against that, I attempt to do a bit of it myself)?
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: veoh

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it's still more about the attribution more than anything else
 
mefeedia "aquires" feeds too.  i dont have a problem with that.  do you?
 
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> wrote: 
Its not just that the work is a derivative, or that its a full cliprather than a "preview" -- the bigger issue for me is that Veoh used 
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Re: [videoblogging] So with the exception of Dylan Verdi (sp?) I can't find any childrens vlogs??

[Michael Sullivan]

see myspace.com ;-)
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: PJKPRODUCTIONS IN THE US!!!

[BevSykes]

>>If I lived there and was a 
videoblogger, I think that would make a great promo...just saying 
;)<<
It's a great idea.  In fact, I was thinking of 
doing something like that myself before my life kind of exploded and made it 
impossible for me to get away and get down to the City for the day.
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: PJKPRODUCTIONS IN THE US!!!

[Devlon]

so...if anyone is bored between now and Vloggercon and live in SF, it would be fantastic to see what it's like on the BART, or, what the area is like around the Swedish hall, etc.If I lived there and was a videoblogger, I think that would make a great promo...just saying ;)
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>>you'll either want to get off at 
16th st. Mission or Civic Center (on Market Street). The walk from both 
stops is not bad, as long as you aren't loaded up too heavy.<<
...and if you are loaded up too heavy, there is a 
street car which runs up Market St. and should let you off pretty close to the 
hotel.
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: PJKPRODUCTIONS IN THE US!!!

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Great Nathan, thanks...this lessens my 'new big city' apprehension a bit.On 4/20/06, Nathan Freitas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




The BART from the SF airport (SFO) is comfortable and fast. You catch 
the Airport shuttle train (which makes a big loop around the terminals) 
and get off when it says BART, which is near the parking garages. Then 
you walk across the platform, buy a ticket, and then get on the train there.

Two things-
    1) Some terminals (like Delta) don't connect right to the shuttle. 
You might have to navigate through some parking lot walkways.
    2) BART charges by distance, so you'll need about a $5 ticket to 
make it into the city proper. You swipe your ticket when you enter and 
when you exit, so don't misplace it!

The ride should be about 30 minutes, and you'll either want to get off 
at 16th st. Mission or Civic Center (on Market Street). The walk from 
both stops is not bad, as long as you aren't loaded up too heavy.

That's my two cents.

+Nathan

Devlon wrote:
> Not being in SF to say for sure, I was checking for Anne and I and the 
> BART does go right from the Airport to very close to the  event 
> location...I think it is only a few blocks away.  And check like 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: PJKPRODUCTIONS IN THE US!!!

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>>you'll either want to get off at 
16th st. Mission or Civic Center (on Market Street). The walk from both 
stops is not bad, as long as you aren't loaded up too heavy.<<
...and if you are loaded up too heavy, there is a 
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hotel.
 
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underground cables.
 
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have suffered severe bodily harm from using the latter term.  (Kind of like 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: PJKPRODUCTIONS IN THE US!!!

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The BART from the SF airport (SFO) is comfortable and fast. You catch 
the Airport shuttle train (which makes a big loop around the terminals) 
and get off when it says BART, which is near the parking garages. Then 
you walk across the platform, buy a ticket, and then get on the train there.

Two things-
    1) Some terminals (like Delta) don't connect right to the shuttle. 
You might have to navigate through some parking lot walkways.
    2) BART charges by distance, so you'll need about a $5 ticket to 
make it into the city proper. You swipe your ticket when you enter and 
when you exit, so don't misplace it!

The ride should be about 30 minutes, and you'll either want to get off 
at 16th st. Mission or Civic Center (on Market Street). The walk from 
both stops is not bad, as long as you aren't loaded up too heavy.

That's my two cents.

+Nathan

Devlon wrote:
> Not being in SF to say for sure, I was checking for Anne and I and the 
> BART does go right from the Airport to very close to the  event 
> location...I think it is only a few blocks away.  And check like 
> borscht too.


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Re: [videoblogging] video conferece topic - vloggercon

[Markus Sandy]

just a follow up on this meeting

some people said that the flashmeeting system prompted them for a 
password when changing screen size

sounds like a bug with the software but you can get the password from 
the meeting url

if the meeting is

http://flash.kmi.open.ac.uk:8080/fm/index.php?pwd=56bf97-4034

then the password is

56bf97-4034

flashmeeting can remember your settings and so you shouldn't have to do 
this every time unless you like switching your view a lot :)

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>there is a video conference scheduled in about three hours
>
>jay dedman has suggested we discuss vloggercon
>
>5pm us pacific coast time
>8pm us eastern time
>mid GMT
>
>http://flash.kmi.open.ac.uk:8080/fm/index.php?pwd=56bf97-4034
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: PJKPRODUCTIONS IN THE US!!!

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On 4/20/06, Richard Show <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Paul,Hope some of the SF people chime in here, but I don't think you have to take a taxi in that I think the BART (subway) probably goes to the airport and I think I heard there is a BART stop very close to the hotel.
Not being in SF to say for sure, I was checking for Anne and I and the BART does go right from the Airport to very close to the  event location...I think it is only a few blocks away.  And check like borscht too. 
http://bart.gov/stations/map/systemMap.asp
Of course, what do I know. In the Ozarks we have subway tunnels, but we  call them caves and the transportation is manual. Very glad you'll be coming, and really looking forward to meeting you!

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I am already booked into the twin peaks hotel and I know it is on the same street at the conference, just a little help is required for the rest of the questions please guys.  by the way thanks for the map, devlon.

paul On 20 Apr 2006, at 15:14, Devlon wrote:
 Here's a wicked map that shows some of the hotels near the event (found on the wiki, thanks whoever put it there!)
http://tinyurl.com/jbzuk On 4/20/06, 

Bill Streeter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  Paul, The Twin Peaks Hotel is practically right next door to The  Swedish American Hall which is where Vloggercon is. Look at the  address of each place.  Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS
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videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Paul Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>   wrote: > > Dear All >  > First Time US traveller here. >  > Okay so, I have booked a good flight, I leave Manchester UK 
 airport   > at 10am change planes at Boston MA, then finally land at SFO at   > around 6ish, I have then got a taxi thing to take me to the  downtown   > hotels from the airport.  First Question is the Twin Peaks Hotel 
 In   > Downtown? Can I blag that one? If not how far will I have to go  from   > there?  I have booked into the Twin Peaks Hotel for the three  nights   > I am there. >  > I have a free ticket put aside for me from Mike Hudack at 
 blip.tv,   > shall I just turn up and see Schlomo on the door? >  > I may want to add to the economy of the United States By buying  
 > something other than food, so How late do the stores open until? > I would love to help in volunteering to do something like capture   > whilst I am at Vloggercon, I would like to put myself down for 
 the   > iMovie and FCP Tricks one if that's okay, but this is of course   > jetlag permitting.  I also don't mind being a gopher either, you  know   > gopher this gopher that! > Also I would love to go to the launch party on the Friday night, 
 I   > checked the wiki and there doesn't seem to be any confirmation of  the   > venue, or should I just grab a few cell phone numbers and ring  round   > like we used to do for raves?

 >  > Also I might have some dollars left over at the end of my trip,  there   > usually is I have found, will there be a way of donating the  spare   > cash I have at the end to Node 101?  Just that it saves me taking  
 > them down to the bank when I get back. >  > Other than that the whole trip is working out fine for me so far,   > booking was a synch. >  > Any help would be hot guys and gals

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: iSquint

[Charles Iliya Krempeaux]

Hello,I took a look at the Handbrake website -- http://handbrake.m0k.org/ -- and YES it too seems to be just a nice GUI built on top of FFmpeg, liba52, x264, etc.  Take a look at the bottom of that page (in the section labelled "Credits") to see it.
See yaOn 4/20/06, Bill Streeter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I'm confused. I thought that iSquint was a derivative of Handbrake.If so does Handbrake use FFmpeg too? I thought that Handbrake wassoftware ported over to MacOSX from BeOS. Whatever the case they areboth really useful tools.
Bill StreeterLO-FI SAINT LOUISwww.lofistl.com--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Charles Iliya Krempeaux"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> Hello,>> I believe it's actually FFmpeg, liba52, and x264 that actuallydoing all the> work.  I think iSquint is a [nice] GUI built on top of it.
>>> See ya>> On 4/20/06, Michael Meiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> >> > I hope so, I love iSquint. It's gottent really, really good.> > And it's fast. Even on my old media center. By fast I mean it
only takes> > 24 hours to rencode a whole movie in mpeg4. :)> >> > -Mike> >> > On Apr 20, 2006, at 4:56 PM, Charles Iliya Krempeaux wrote:> >> > Hello,
> >> > I sent the author an e-mail.> >> > Like I said though, the author may have just made an honestmistake.> >> >> > See ya> >> > On 4/20/06, Charles Iliya Krempeaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >> > > Hello,> > >> > > Maybe I'm missed something, but iSquint seems to beviolating the> > > GNU GPL license.> > >> > > (It's using software licensed under the GNU GPL but is not
itself also> > > licensed under that license.  And it's not releasing thesource code.)> > >> > > Specifically, it is violating the licenses of liba52 andx264.  (Both of
> > > which it looks like iSquint uses.)> > >> > >> > > Now,... it may be that he's done this by accident.  He'slinking to> > > FFmpeg; which is (normally) licensed under the GNU LGPL.  (And
that license> > > does NOT require you to make your software Free and opensourcesoftware> > > too.  And thus does NOT compel you to release your sourcecode.)> > >> > > But, he's compiling FFmpeg with "--enable-gpl" so that he can
bring in> > > liba52 an x264.  Which then forces that special version ofFFmpeg to become> > > GPL (instead of just LGPL).> > >> > > Which forces iSquint to become GPL.  Which compels him to
release his> > > source code (under the terms of the GNU GPL).> > >> > >> > > Does anyone know the author of iSquint?> > >> > >> > > See ya
> > >> > >> > > On 4/20/06, bofoboho < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > > >> > > >  For all you MAC users. Excellent and FAST tool forconverting all you
> > > > .mov's to your favorite codec~!> > > >> > > > iSquint > > > >> > > > Smithie Boho
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[videoblogging] Re: iSquint

[Bill Streeter]

I'm confused. I thought that iSquint was a derivative of Handbrake. 
If so does Handbrake use FFmpeg too? I thought that Handbrake was 
software ported over to MacOSX from BeOS. Whatever the case they are 
both really useful tools.

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>
> Hello,
> 
> I believe it's actually FFmpeg, liba52, and x264 that actually 
doing all the
> work.  I think iSquint is a [nice] GUI built on top of it.
> 
> 
> See ya
> 
> On 4/20/06, Michael Meiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I hope so, I love iSquint. It's gottent really, really good.
> > And it's fast. Even on my old media center. By fast I mean it 
only takes
> > 24 hours to rencode a whole movie in mpeg4. :)
> >
> > -Mike
> >
> > On Apr 20, 2006, at 4:56 PM, Charles Iliya Krempeaux wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I sent the author an e-mail.
> >
> > Like I said though, the author may have just made an honest 
mistake.
> >
> >
> > See ya
> >
> > On 4/20/06, Charles Iliya Krempeaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > Maybe I'm missed something, but iSquint seems to be 
violating the
> > > GNU GPL license.
> > >
> > > (It's using software licensed under the GNU GPL but is not 
itself also
> > > licensed under that license.  And it's not releasing the 
source code.)
> > >
> > > Specifically, it is violating the licenses of liba52 and 
x264.  (Both of
> > > which it looks like iSquint uses.)
> > >
> > >
> > > Now,... it may be that he's done this by accident.  He's 
linking to
> > > FFmpeg; which is (normally) licensed under the GNU LGPL.  (And 
that license
> > > does NOT require you to make your software Free and opensource 
software
> > > too.  And thus does NOT compel you to release your source 
code.)
> > >
> > > But, he's compiling FFmpeg with "--enable-gpl" so that he can 
bring in
> > > liba52 an x264.  Which then forces that special version of 
FFmpeg to become
> > > GPL (instead of just LGPL).
> > >
> > > Which forces iSquint to become GPL.  Which compels him to 
release his
> > > source code (under the terms of the GNU GPL).
> > >
> > >
> > > Does anyone know the author of iSquint?
> > >
> > >
> > > See ya
> > >
> > >
> > > On 4/20/06, bofoboho < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >  For all you MAC users. Excellent and FAST tool for 
converting all you
> > > > .mov's to your favorite codec~!
> > > >
> > > > iSquint 
> > > >
> > > > Smithie Boho
> > > >
> > >
> [...]
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: iSquint

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Hello,I believe it's actually FFmpeg, liba52, and x264 that actually doing all the work.  I think iSquint is a [nice] GUI built on top of it.See yaOn 4/20/06, 
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I hope so, I love iSquint. It's gottent really, really good.And it's fast. Even on my old media center. By fast I mean it only takes 24 hours to rencode a whole movie in mpeg4. :)
-MikeOn Apr 20, 2006, at 4:56 PM, Charles Iliya Krempeaux wrote: Hello,I sent the author an e-mail.
Like I said though, the author may have just made an honest mistake.See yaOn 4/20/06, Charles Iliya Krempeaux  <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello,Maybe I'm missed something, but iSquint seems to be violating the GNU GPL license.
(It's using software licensed under the GNU GPL but is not itself also licensed under that license.  And it's not releasing the source code.) Specifically, it is violating the licenses of liba52 and x264.  (Both of which it looks like iSquint uses.)
Now,... it may be that he's done this by accident.  He's linking to FFmpeg; which is (normally) licensed under the GNU LGPL.  (And that license does NOT require you to make your software Free and opensource software too.  And thus does NOT compel you to release your source code.) 
But, he's compiling FFmpeg with "--enable-gpl" so that he can bring in liba52 an x264.  Which then forces that special version of FFmpeg to become GPL (instead of just LGPL). 
Which forces iSquint to become GPL.  Which compels him to release his source code (under the terms of the GNU GPL).Does anyone know the author of iSquint?
 See yaOn 4/20/06, bofoboho <
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iSquint  Smithie Boho
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: PJKPRODUCTIONS IN THE US!!!

[Richard Show]

Paul,Hope some of the SF people chime in here, but I don't think you have to take a taxi in that I think the BART (subway) probably goes to the airport and I think I heard there is a BART stop very close to the hotel.
Of course, what do I know. In the Ozarks we have subway tunnels, but we  call them caves and the transportation is manual. Very glad you'll be coming, and really looking forward to meeting you!
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I am already booked into the twin peaks hotel and I know it is on the same street at the conference, just a little help is required for the rest of the questions please guys.  by the way thanks for the map, devlon.
paul On 20 Apr 2006, at 15:14, Devlon wrote: Here's a wicked map that shows some of the hotels near the event (found on the wiki, thanks whoever put it there!)
http://tinyurl.com/jbzuk On 4/20/06, 
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  Paul, The Twin Peaks Hotel is practically right next door to The  Swedish American Hall which is where Vloggercon is. Look at the  address of each place.  Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS
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 In   > Downtown? Can I blag that one? If not how far will I have to go  from   > there?  I have booked into the Twin Peaks Hotel for the three  nights   > I am there. >  > I have a free ticket put aside for me from Mike Hudack at 
 blip.tv,   > shall I just turn up and see Schlomo on the door? >  > I may want to add to the economy of the United States By buying  
 > something other than food, so How late do the stores open until? > I would love to help in volunteering to do something like capture   > whilst I am at Vloggercon, I would like to put myself down for 
 the   > iMovie and FCP Tricks one if that's okay, but this is of course   > jetlag permitting.  I also don't mind being a gopher either, you  know   > gopher this gopher that! > Also I would love to go to the launch party on the Friday night, 
 I   > checked the wiki and there doesn't seem to be any confirmation of  the   > venue, or should I just grab a few cell phone numbers and ring  round   > like we used to do for raves?
 >  > Also I might have some dollars left over at the end of my trip,  there   > usually is I have found, will there be a way of donating the  spare   > cash I have at the end to Node 101?  Just that it saves me taking  
 > them down to the bank when I get back. >  > Other than that the whole trip is working out fine for me so far,   > booking was a synch. >  > Any help would be hot guys and gals
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: iSquint

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I hope so, I love iSquint. It's gottent really, really good.And it's fast. Even on my old media center. By fast I mean it only takes 24 hours to rencode a whole movie in mpeg4. :)-MikeOn Apr 20, 2006, at 4:56 PM, Charles Iliya Krempeaux wrote: Hello,I sent the author an e-mail.Like I said though, the author may have just made an honest mistake.See yaOn 4/20/06, Charles Iliya Krempeaux  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello,Maybe I'm missed something, but iSquint seems to be violating the GNU GPL license.(It's using software licensed under the GNU GPL but is not itself also licensed under that license.  And it's not releasing the source code.) Specifically, it is violating the licenses of liba52 and x264.  (Both of which it looks like iSquint uses.)Now,... it may be that he's done this by accident.  He's linking to FFmpeg; which is (normally) licensed under the GNU LGPL.  (And that license does NOT require you to make your software Free and opensource software too.  And thus does NOT compel you to release your source code.) But, he's compiling FFmpeg with "--enable-gpl" so that he can bring in liba52 an x264.  Which then forces that special version of FFmpeg to become GPL (instead of just LGPL). Which forces iSquint to become GPL.  Which compels him to release his source code (under the terms of the GNU GPL).Does anyone know the author of iSquint? See yaOn 4/20/06, bofoboho < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  For all you MAC users. Excellent and FAST tool for converting all you .mov's to your favorite codec~! iSquint  Smithie Boho--  Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc.charles @  reptile.casupercanadian @ gmail.com developer weblog: http://ChangeLog.ca/ ___  Make Televisionhttp://maketelevision.com/   YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS  Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web.    To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]    Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.  --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Videoblogging" group.  To post to this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/videoblogging  -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---  

  




  
  
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[videoblogging] Our Largest Cast Wars Ever Is Starting At Podcast Pickle

[softballjunk]

It's time for a mega-sized Cast Wars! All the podcasts and vidcasts 
that were submitted to our directory before April 20th, 3:30 CST are 
in this competition. May the best cast win! 

To check out the biggest CAst Wars we have had so far, go to 
http://www.podcastpickle.com/app/cast_wars/


* This is just for fun... it's not scientific in any way, so have fun 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: veoh

[Joshua Kinberg]

Its not just that the work is a derivative, or that its a full clip
rather than a "preview" -- the bigger issue for me is that Veoh used
vloggers and their content to make it seem as though they had a
growing and vibrant community, people who've signed up, agreed to
terms of service, and were participants in the Veoh community. This
was not true. They took people's content and made bogus profiles for
them. They forced "users" into an opt out situation when they had
never in fact opted in. This is dishonest.

-josh


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> Michael Verdi wrote:
> For many videobloggers the previews were long enough to be the complete
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Re: [videoblogging] iSquint

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Hello,I sent the author an e-mail.Like I said though, the author may have just made an honest mistake.See yaOn 4/20/06, Charles Iliya Krempeaux
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Hello,Maybe I'm missed something, but iSquint seems to be violating the GNU GPL license.(It's using software licensed under the GNU GPL but is not itself also licensed under that license.  And it's not releasing the source code.)
Specifically, it is violating the licenses of liba52 and x264.  (Both of which it looks like iSquint uses.)Now,... it may be that he's done this by accident.  He's linking to FFmpeg; which is (normally) licensed under the GNU LGPL.  (And that license does NOT require you to make your software Free and opensource software too.  And thus does NOT compel you to release your source code.)
But, he's compiling FFmpeg with "--enable-gpl" so that he can bring in liba52 an x264.  Which then forces that special version of FFmpeg to become GPL (instead of just LGPL).
Which forces iSquint to become GPL.  Which compels him to release his source code (under the terms of the GNU GPL).Does anyone know the author of iSquint?

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[videoblogging] Re: Can vloggers hack mountains

[Casey McKinnon]

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Chuck Olsen"
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> One project I'm excited about is Citizens for Election Integrity.
> Minnesota is going to audit elections to ensure accuracy in
> every county through this nonpartisan organization. I'm going
> to set up a vlog for them to get the word out and recruit 
> volunteers. I anticipate this will be the primary way people
> learn about this issue and how they can help.

Great cause, Chuck!  It's a shame citizen's journalism wasn't as big
back in 2000... then again, at least we got a great SNL episode out of
the whole thing.  After Alec Baldwin, Al Gore was one of the best
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[videoblogging] Re: Can vloggers hack mountains

[Chuck Olsen]

Great thoughts.

FYI, I'm interviewing Jon Rawlinson about the Nata Village
blog/vlog project this weekend. Hopefully for Rocketboom,
or Human Wire. Or MN Stories, or anywhere really. :-)

Minnesota Stories sometimes dents molehills. Definitely
approaching things form the hyperlocal level, equally important
as the global. My goal is for it to be a place for otherwise unheard
voices. Most of the time it's just entertaining stuff around town, 
but it's going in interesting directions.

One project I'm excited about is Citizens for Election Integrity.
Minnesota is going to audit elections to ensure accuracy in
every county through this nonpartisan organization. I'm going
to set up a vlog for them to get the word out and recruit 
volunteers. I anticipate this will be the primary way people
learn about this issue and how they can help.

I think just about every non-profit could benefit from vlogging.
What better way to show the world what you're doing, what's
important, why you should care and participate?

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> Wasn't vlogging going to be a tool to help change / improve the world? 
> Wouldn't it help differentiate vloggers from those, who happen to be of 
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[videoblogging] Can vloggers hack mountains

[robert a/k/a r]

Hey all,

The press appears to be cubbying peeps who make video (i.e., personal, documentary, comedy, etc.) and vlog it into types, which is not necessarily good or bad. I'm wondering if vloggers can leverage this tendency.

Also, as you know, I'm particularly interested in education and humanitarian projects and am curious how many vloggers have set their focus on such projects.

More, I tried to drum up support earlier this week for Jon's Nata Village 

endeavour, and I don't believe a lot of vloggers have yet blogged about or re-vlogged the project though I did notice a few. Certainly a bit of press for such projects, not only Nata Village, has the potential to improve the finances, and in the Nata case that money, per the blog, goes fully to the village. If I'm wrong and a lot of you have participated by vlogging or directly donating I'll stand corrected, which I would certainly prefer.

Does anyone have insight into how many vloggers have focused in on and working towards a particular educational or humanitarian topics, I think it would be cool to help the press see that category, not only from the perspective of those in the category but for vloggers in general.

Wasn't vlogging going to be a tool to help change / improve the world? Wouldn't it help differentiate vloggers from those, who happen to be of great number, who just post entertaining video (not that I have anything against that, I attempt to do a bit of it myself)?

And speaking of saving the world, or at least the Internet, have a look at this, is there a possibility it can help?


Perhaps it's the fine weather here in NYC today, I'm feeling there's an opportunity to hack a few mountains out there. Can we make a list of those vlogging towards a non-entertainment goal, a new category for the press and for us?



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[videoblogging] Re: Rolling Stone

[Andy Carvin]

I had a picture of me and my blog in Rolling Stone back in '96. Still
one of the highlights of my life. :-) Wish the article was still
online. -andy




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> Heck, why not? Having your picture in Rolling Stone sounds like fun to
> me, even if it's no longer the dream it might once have been. Fame has
> come to you. Lie back and enjoy!
> 
> > On 4/20/06, andrew michael baron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > INTERPRETATION: I DONT CARE ABOUT ROLLING STONE!
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: veoh

[WWWhatsup]

I'm not talking about the flv previews Enric, but the actual P2P service.

joly

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>> Where does it say that? I've d/l'd my own stuff from there and it's
>bit for bit
>> identical.
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>Have you looked at the binary bits.  They're not identical, they're
>transcoded to Flash.  Even if your original was in flash, it's
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Re: [videoblogging] veoh article with "interesting" statements from the company

[Deirdre Straughan]

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Re: [videoblogging] veoh article with "interesting" statements from the company

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FLV previews of content is a recent development, prompted by the YouTube envy, no doubt,
& not entirely thought out before introduction, I'll give you that. I myself would have preferred
full flv previews, given the option.

But the actual Veoh distro does no transcoding.

joly


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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Might be going to Vloggercon...(I hope)

[Deirdre Straughan]

On 4/20/06, Susan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You have a teenage daughter??  I had no idea!!
>
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Rolling Stone

[Deirdre Straughan]

Heck, why not? Having your picture in Rolling Stone sounds like fun to
me, even if it's no longer the dream it might once have been. Fame has
come to you. Lie back and enjoy!

> On 4/20/06, andrew michael baron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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Re: [videoblogging] iSquint

[Charles Iliya Krempeaux]

Hello,Maybe I'm missed something, but iSquint seems to be violating the GNU GPL license.(It's using software licensed under the GNU GPL but is not itself also licensed under that license.  And it's not releasing the source code.)
Specifically, it is violating the licenses of liba52 and x264.  (Both of which it looks like iSquint uses.)Now,... it may be that he's done this by accident.  He's linking to FFmpeg; which is (normally) licensed under the GNU LGPL.  (And that license does NOT require you to make your software Free and opensource software too.  And thus does NOT compel you to release your source code.)
But, he's compiling FFmpeg with "--enable-gpl" so that he can bring in liba52 an x264.  Which then forces that special version of FFmpeg to become GPL (instead of just LGPL).
Which forces iSquint to become GPL.  Which compels him to release his source code (under the terms of the GNU GPL).Does anyone know the author of iSquint?
See yaOn 4/20/06, bofoboho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



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[videoblogging] Re: Rolling Stone

[Casey McKinnon]

Josh- I'm pretty sure he meant that at one time being in Rolling Stone
was the epitome of his success... but now he just considers it a
stepping stone to something bigger.  I don't think he was deifying
himself... don't worry about that...

Casey


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>
> not at all?
> I mean cmon, you got to admit that it is kinda cool. who wouldn't be
happy
> about getting some press, especially in a magazine that you yourself
said
> you greatly admired.
> 
> but perhaps using the metaphor as God as a stepping stone was a bit
over the
> top...
> 
> On 4/20/06, andrew michael baron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > INTERPRETATION: I DONT CARE ABOUT ROLLING STONE!
> >
> > On Apr 20, 2006, at 3:06 PM, Susan wrote:
> >
> > > Dude, we're going to have to butter your ears just to push you
through
> > > the doorway!!
> > >
> > > ;)
> > > Susan
> > > http://vlog.kitykity.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, andrew michael baron
> > >  wrote:
> > >>
> > >> No, I was trying to say that what used to be God is now just a
> > >> stepping stone. . .
> > >>
> > >> On Apr 20, 2006, at 2:20 PM, Deirdre Straughan wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Did you buy five copies for your mother?
> > >>>
> > >>> On 4/20/06, andrew michael baron  wrote:
> >  There is also an article that came out yesterday in Rolling Stone
> >  Magazine but I haven't seen it online. Its called: "Vlog Stars,
> >  Online video bloggers are redefining the worlds of news and
> >  entertainment". It mentions Rocketboom, Ask a Ninja, Kitkast,
Vlog
> >  Soup, A Good Word With the T-Bird. They used a stock photo of
> >  Rocketboom so I wound up also pictured in the article. 10 years
> >  ago,
> >  my greatest dreams and aspirations was to be in the Rolling
> >  Stone. As
> >  a musician, that's as far as my dreams could go back then. It
would
> >  include the end-all-dream of being owned by Sony for $2000/month
> >  with
> >  a bonus of a million dollar debt.
> > 
> > 
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[videoblogging] Re: Rolling Stone

[Chuck Olsen]

Andrew, why must you insist on not letting your head swell?
You should still buy 5 copies for your mom. Moms like that.

Anyway, you're going to have to butter *my* ears to push me through the doorway.

No particular reason, other than it feels good.


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, andrew michael baron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> INTERPRETATION: I DONT CARE ABOUT ROLLING STONE!
> 
> On Apr 20, 2006, at 3:06 PM, Susan wrote:
> 
> > Dude, we're going to have to butter your ears just to push you through
> > the doorway!!
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Rolling Stone

[Josh Leo]

not at all?I mean cmon, you got to admit that it is kinda cool. who wouldn't be happy about getting some press, especially in a magazine that you yourself said you greatly admired. but perhaps using the metaphor as God as a stepping stone was a bit over the top...
On 4/20/06, andrew michael baron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
INTERPRETATION: I DONT CARE ABOUT ROLLING STONE!On Apr 20, 2006, at 3:06 PM, Susan wrote:> Dude, we're going to have to butter your ears just to push you through> the doorway!!>> ;)
> Susan> http://vlog.kitykity.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, andrew michael baron
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: No, I was trying to say that what used to be God is now just a>> stepping stone. . . On Apr 20, 2006, at 2:20 PM, Deirdre Straughan wrote:
> Did you buy five copies for your mother?>> On 4/20/06, andrew michael baron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: There is also an article that came out yesterday in Rolling Stone
 Magazine but I haven't seen it online. Its called: "Vlog Stars, Online video bloggers are redefining the worlds of news and entertainment". It mentions Rocketboom, Ask a Ninja, Kitkast, Vlog
 Soup, A Good Word With the T-Bird. They used a stock photo of Rocketboom so I wound up also pictured in the article. 10 years ago, my greatest dreams and aspirations was to be in the Rolling
 Stone. As a musician, that's as far as my dreams could go back then. It would include the end-all-dream of being owned by Sony for $2000/month with
 a bonus of a million dollar debt.>> -->>> best regards,>>> Deirdré Straughan>> 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Rolling Stone

[Deirdre Straughan]

On 4/20/06, andrew michael baron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> INTERPRETATION: I DONT CARE ABOUT ROLLING STONE!
>
> On Apr 20, 2006, at 3:06 PM, Susan wrote:
>
> > Dude, we're going to have to butter your ears just to push you through
> > the doorway!!
> >
> > ;)
> > Susan
> > http://vlog.kitykity.com
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, andrew michael baron
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> No, I was trying to say that what used to be God is now just a
> >> stepping stone. . .
> >>
> >> On Apr 20, 2006, at 2:20 PM, Deirdre Straughan wrote:
> >>
> >>> Did you buy five copies for your mother?
> >>>
> >>> On 4/20/06, andrew michael baron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  There is also an article that came out yesterday in Rolling Stone
>  Magazine but I haven't seen it online. Its called: "Vlog Stars,
>  Online video bloggers are redefining the worlds of news and
>  entertainment". It mentions Rocketboom, Ask a Ninja, Kitkast, Vlog
>  Soup, A Good Word With the T-Bird. They used a stock photo of
>  Rocketboom so I wound up also pictured in the article. 10 years
>  ago,
>  my greatest dreams and aspirations was to be in the Rolling
>  Stone. As
>  a musician, that's as far as my dreams could go back then. It would
>  include the end-all-dream of being owned by Sony for $2000/month
>  with
>  a bonus of a million dollar debt.
best regards,
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Re: [videoblogging] Rolling Stone

[Michael Sullivan]

made me think of  aline in a movie called "Malice" where Alec Baldwin is told of his "God Complex".he goes something like"I don't have a God Complex. I am God"screw this, use google, sull... use google..
booYa!http://www.americanrhetoric.com/MovieSpeeches/moviespeechmalice.htmlOn 4/20/06, 
andrew michael baron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
No, I was trying to say that what used to be God is now just astepping stone. . .On Apr 20, 2006, at 2:20 PM, Deirdre Straughan wrote:> Did you buy five copies for your mother?>> On 4/20/06, andrew michael baron <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> There is also an article that came out yesterday in Rolling Stone>> Magazine but I haven't seen it online. Its called: "Vlog Stars,
>> Online video bloggers are redefining the worlds of news and>> entertainment". It mentions Rocketboom, Ask a Ninja, Kitkast, Vlog>> Soup, A Good Word With the T-Bird. They used a stock photo of
>> Rocketboom so I wound up also pictured in the article. 10 years ago,>> my greatest dreams and aspirations was to be in the Rolling Stone. As>> a musician, that's as far as my dreams could go back then. It would
>> include the end-all-dream of being owned by Sony for $2000/month with>> a bonus of a million dollar debt.>> --> best regards,> Deirdré Straughan
>> www.beginningwithi.com (personal)> www.tvblob.com (work) Yahoo! Groups Links>>
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[videoblogging] Re: Rolling Stone

[Casey McKinnon]

Are you sure you're not talking about the King of Nepal, Susan?

Casey


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Susan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Dude, we're going to have to butter your ears just to push you through
> the doorway!! 
> 
> ;)
> Susan
> http://vlog.kitykity.com
> 
> 
> 
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, andrew michael baron
>  wrote:
> >
> > No, I was trying to say that what used to be God is now just a  
> > stepping stone. . .
> > 
> > On Apr 20, 2006, at 2:20 PM, Deirdre Straughan wrote:
> > 
> > > Did you buy five copies for your mother?
> > >
> > > On 4/20/06, andrew michael baron  wrote:
> > >> There is also an article that came out yesterday in Rolling Stone
> > >> Magazine but I haven't seen it online. Its called: "Vlog Stars,
> > >> Online video bloggers are redefining the worlds of news and
> > >> entertainment". It mentions Rocketboom, Ask a Ninja, Kitkast, Vlog
> > >> Soup, A Good Word With the T-Bird. They used a stock photo of
> > >> Rocketboom so I wound up also pictured in the article. 10 years
ago,
> > >> my greatest dreams and aspirations was to be in the Rolling
Stone. As
> > >> a musician, that's as far as my dreams could go back then. It would
> > >> include the end-all-dream of being owned by Sony for
$2000/month with
> > >> a bonus of a million dollar debt.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > > --
> > > best regards,
> > > Deirdré Straughan
> > >
> > > www.beginningwithi.com (personal)
> > > www.tvblob.com (work)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Rolling Stone

[andrew michael baron]

INTERPRETATION: I DONT CARE ABOUT ROLLING STONE!

On Apr 20, 2006, at 3:06 PM, Susan wrote:

> Dude, we're going to have to butter your ears just to push you through
> the doorway!!
>
> ;)
> Susan
> http://vlog.kitykity.com
>
>
>
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, andrew michael baron
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> No, I was trying to say that what used to be God is now just a
>> stepping stone. . .
>>
>> On Apr 20, 2006, at 2:20 PM, Deirdre Straughan wrote:
>>
>>> Did you buy five copies for your mother?
>>>
>>> On 4/20/06, andrew michael baron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 There is also an article that came out yesterday in Rolling Stone
 Magazine but I haven't seen it online. Its called: "Vlog Stars,
 Online video bloggers are redefining the worlds of news and
 entertainment". It mentions Rocketboom, Ask a Ninja, Kitkast, Vlog
 Soup, A Good Word With the T-Bird. They used a stock photo of
 Rocketboom so I wound up also pictured in the article. 10 years  
 ago,
 my greatest dreams and aspirations was to be in the Rolling  
 Stone. As
 a musician, that's as far as my dreams could go back then. It would
 include the end-all-dream of being owned by Sony for $2000/month  
 with
 a bonus of a million dollar debt.


>>>
>>> --
>>> best regards,
>>> Deirdré Straughan
>>>
>>> www.beginningwithi.com (personal)
>>> www.tvblob.com (work)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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[videoblogging] Re: Rolling Stone

[Susan]

Dude, we're going to have to butter your ears just to push you through
the doorway!! 

;)
Susan
http://vlog.kitykity.com



--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, andrew michael baron
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> No, I was trying to say that what used to be God is now just a  
> stepping stone. . .
> 
> On Apr 20, 2006, at 2:20 PM, Deirdre Straughan wrote:
> 
> > Did you buy five copies for your mother?
> >
> > On 4/20/06, andrew michael baron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> There is also an article that came out yesterday in Rolling Stone
> >> Magazine but I haven't seen it online. Its called: "Vlog Stars,
> >> Online video bloggers are redefining the worlds of news and
> >> entertainment". It mentions Rocketboom, Ask a Ninja, Kitkast, Vlog
> >> Soup, A Good Word With the T-Bird. They used a stock photo of
> >> Rocketboom so I wound up also pictured in the article. 10 years ago,
> >> my greatest dreams and aspirations was to be in the Rolling Stone. As
> >> a musician, that's as far as my dreams could go back then. It would
> >> include the end-all-dream of being owned by Sony for $2000/month with
> >> a bonus of a million dollar debt.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > --
> > best regards,
> > Deirdré Straughan
> >
> > www.beginningwithi.com (personal)
> > www.tvblob.com (work)
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [videoblogging] free earning website

[Jay dedman]

On 4/19/06, ranjithboss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> NET CASH MALL
> Logon to
> http://www.freewebs.com/netcashmall
>
> to get wonderful home based, part-time,
> full-time business opportunities.
> If your browser does not open up
> directly, just copy paste the URL on to your browser.

Thanks but no thanks.
sorry, this guy got through.
Now deleted.

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: veoh

[Markus Sandy]

exactly!!!

Michael Verdi wrote:

  
For many videobloggers the previews were long enough to be the complete
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: veoh article with "interesting" statements from the company

[Josh Leo]

scratch that, dmitri and I will now be talking monday i believe... (he just emailed)On 4/20/06, Josh Leo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:I am still waiting to hear back from dmitri, he stood me up for a WATM interview we had scheduled last week (understandable with all the big deal talk going on now) he said maybe this week but I am still waiting to hear from him... hopefully I can get some more information specially geared towards vloggers and how we can work together!
On 4/20/06, Devlon <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




On 4/20/06, Josh Leo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:





watching this video, i can't help but think that 2 weeks ago when I looked at veoh and saw all my friends videos on veoh, populating their pages, that perhaps all those faces, all those "independant producers" "using" veoh helped them land this deal. 
I am curious... anyone interested in the technology/service that veoh is offering (ignore the bad blood)?Personally, I think they have a good site, and a good service.  I've chosen not to list my stuff because I don't believe their actions were accidental and I don't believe in their business practices.  It's great that they are trying to make amends, butI've still got my opinions.
And it is a shame, because I think they do have a good thing.  Maybe not the best thing for videobloggers, but as Anne has said in the past for they seem more suited independent film-makers, etc.


I just can't see myself using it any time soon...On 4/20/06, 
Halcyon Lujah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:






 Speaking of Dmitry, he was interviewed on CNBC:http://veoh.com/videoDetails.html?v=e58555GeFRX7g8
-halcyon
 
p.s. are the people who have issues with Veoh unhappy with the way they fixed it? or just upset they made a mistake in the first place?  Or something else?   Is anyone's content on Veoh that doesn't want it there?  

 
 
On 4/20/06, Michael Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote: 

Veoh.com is where you can see the transcoded flv previews.Btw, I like Veoh way more than crApple iTunes.  
God forbid people speak out against precious Apple. At least people... humans... speak to us here from Veoh.  Christ, the CEO responded! When has anyone from Apple contributed to the conversation of videoblogging?
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[videoblogging] Re: Might be going to Vloggercon...(I hope)

[bofoboho]

Ah no worries eh? Not even I Smithie Boho can make acquaintance  of
other vloggers for this social event~! Not that there's something to
learn but the cost of travel and stay for two days doen't make it cost
effective. I mean I may miss on how to "RSS my email with CSS"
event...but I'm sure someone will video blog it! so no sweat you
didn't miss the vidboat.




--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Heath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I didn't think it was possible but this whole thread is making me 
> even more depressed than I am..late last week it looked like 
> I was going to be able to go and then in the last couple of 
> days.I don't see how I can make itI thought I had some 
> stuff lined up and like just about everything else that is going on 
> with me right now..it's falling throughstill an outside 
> chance but it is so slim it is almost invisibleI so want to 
> meet everyone and be a part of vloggercon but right now, it looks 
> like I have to choose to be responsible...man that just 
> sucks
> 
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Casey McKinnon"  
> wrote:
> >
> > I'm middle class and have a stuffed Firefox named Muldor who calls 
> me
> > mummy... can I be in the club?
> > 
> > Casey
> > 
> > 
> > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Sullivan"
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > here here.
> > > this daddeo is trying to make it out there too!
> > > 
> > > On 4/20/06, Chris Daniel  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Don't forget.. the middle class Dads as well!
> > > >
> > > > -Chris
> > > > --
> > > > http://www.chrisdanielvideos.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 4/20/06, Susan  wrote:
> > > > > There will be more middle class moms there than you think ;)
> > > > >
> > > > > Susan
> > > > > http://vlog.kitykity.com
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Monique Danielle" 
> 
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm thinking about going, but I'm worried that I too new to 
> the
> > > > > community
> > > > > > and will be sort of a wall flower.
> > > > > > Also, while I'm liberal and funky at heart, I'm also a 
> middle
> > class
> > > > > mom, so
> > > > > > I fear that I won't be 'hip' enough
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cheers
> > > > > > Monique Danielle
> > > > > > http://www.vlogdiva.com
> > > > > > http://www.vlogchallenge.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   -Original Message-
> > > > > >   From: Markus Sandy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > >   Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 9:31 AM
> > > > > >   To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > >   Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Might be going to
> > Vloggercon...(I hope)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   i sure hope you can make it nathan
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   btw, i really liked your story the other day about your 
> driving
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> > > > > >   regards,
> > > > > >   markus
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   Nathan Miller wrote:
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> > > > > >   >tommorrow to head to San Fran...however it will be a
> > > > > >   >2000 USD dollar trip for me, and that is kinda holding
> > > > > >   >me back too...
> > > > > >   >
> > > > > >   >Just reading the emails about vloggercon drives me
> > > > > >   >crazy. I so dearly want to meet everyone, however I
> > > > > >   >just started a new job, who could ask for worst
> > > > > >   >timing...
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[videoblogging] Re: WIRED does vlogs

[Casey McKinnon]

My dream 10 years ago was to be on Conan O'Brien... but somehow I
doubt that's gonna happen anytime soon... :P

Casey

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Chuck Olsen"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> > Actually, all of Amanda's favorite vlogs ARE vlogs
> 
> Ohh yeah, I didn't get that from the way it's presented.
> 
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> Woodchucks, etc. but they truncated the list.
> 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: veoh article with "interesting" statements from the company

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I am still waiting to hear back from dmitri, he stood me up for a WATM interview we had scheduled last week (understandable with all the big deal talk going on now) he said maybe this week but I am still waiting to hear from him... hopefully I can get some more information specially geared towards vloggers and how we can work together!
Just to throw a bit of wood on the fire...I am noticing that 'videoblogging' is really starting to become a hot thing with these start upswhether they get what a videoblog is/can be or not.   It's getting attention, it's becoming a meme.
I wonder how many of these startups want to help videobloggers or really just want to cash in on the movement?Ideally it would be good if they could accomplish both...no harm in that.  If they can provide videobloggers with value and make a few bucks, bonus.

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watching this video, i can't help but think that 2 weeks ago when I looked at veoh and saw all my friends videos on veoh, populating their pages, that perhaps all those faces, all those "independant producers" "using" veoh helped them land this deal. 
I am curious... anyone interested in the technology/service that veoh is offering (ignore the bad blood)?Personally, I think they have a good site, and a good service.  I've chosen not to list my stuff because I don't believe their actions were accidental and I don't believe in their business practices.  It's great that they are trying to make amends, butI've still got my opinions.
And it is a shame, because I think they do have a good thing.  Maybe not the best thing for videobloggers, but as Anne has said in the past for they seem more suited independent film-makers, etc.


I just can't see myself using it any time soon...On 4/20/06, 
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 Speaking of Dmitry, he was interviewed on CNBC:http://veoh.com/videoDetails.html?v=e58555GeFRX7g8
-halcyon
 
p.s. are the people who have issues with Veoh unhappy with the way they fixed it? or just upset they made a mistake in the first place?  Or something else?   Is anyone's content on Veoh that doesn't want it there?  

 
 
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Veoh.com is where you can see the transcoded flv previews.Btw, I like Veoh way more than crApple iTunes.  
God forbid people speak out against precious Apple. At least people... humans... speak to us here from Veoh.  Christ, the CEO responded! When has anyone from Apple contributed to the conversation of videoblogging?
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: WIRED does vlogs

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That's a valuable lesson I think - give up on your dreams. ;-)done!
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Woodchucks, etc. but they truncated the list.And, congrats RB on Rolling Stone! 10 years ago, my dream wasto be in WIRED magazine. I gave up on that dream, and now it'scome true. That's a valuable lesson I think - give up on your dreams. ;-)
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[videoblogging] Re: WIRED does vlogs

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> Actually, all of Amanda's favorite vlogs ARE vlogs

Ohh yeah, I didn't get that from the way it's presented.

Also -- Amanda said (off-list) that she gave them a longer
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Woodchucks, etc. but they truncated the list.

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Rolling Stone

[andrew michael baron]

Hey Casey, its called May 4th, Issue 999. Just came out here in nyc  
yesterday.

On Apr 20, 2006, at 1:32 PM, Casey McKinnon wrote:

> Hey Andrew... Any idea what page I can find the article on?  I just
> picked up a copy and went through it page by page finding nothing...
>
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>> There is also an article that came out yesterday in Rolling Stone
>> Magazine but I haven't seen it online. Its called: "Vlog Stars,
>> Online video bloggers are redefining the worlds of news and
>> entertainment". It mentions Rocketboom, Ask a Ninja, Kitkast, Vlog
>> Soup, A Good Word With the T-Bird. They used a stock photo of
>> Rocketboom so I wound up also pictured in the article. 10 years ago,
>> my greatest dreams and aspirations was to be in the Rolling Stone. As
>> a musician, that's as far as my dreams could go back then. It would
>> include the end-all-dream of being owned by Sony for $2000/month with
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[videoblogging] Re: veoh

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> Where does it say that? I've d/l'd my own stuff from there and it's
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Have you looked at the binary bits.  They're not identical, they're
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transcoded again into flash of a different quality and bit rate.

  -- Enric

> 
> joly
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> At 10:54 AM 4/20/2006, you wrote:
> >Are you sure they trans code? I thought they just take
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: veoh article with "interesting" statements from the company

[Josh Leo]

I am still waiting to hear back from dmitri, he stood me up for a WATM interview we had scheduled last week (understandable with all the big deal talk going on now) he said maybe this week but I am still waiting to hear from him... hopefully I can get some more information specially geared towards vloggers and how we can work together!
On 4/20/06, Devlon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



On 4/20/06, Josh Leo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




watching this video, i can't help but think that 2 weeks ago when I looked at veoh and saw all my friends videos on veoh, populating their pages, that perhaps all those faces, all those "independant producers" "using" veoh helped them land this deal. 
I am curious... anyone interested in the technology/service that veoh is offering (ignore the bad blood)?Personally, I think they have a good site, and a good service.  I've chosen not to list my stuff because I don't believe their actions were accidental and I don't believe in their business practices.  It's great that they are trying to make amends, butI've still got my opinions.
And it is a shame, because I think they do have a good thing.  Maybe not the best thing for videobloggers, but as Anne has said in the past for they seem more suited independent film-makers, etc.

I just can't see myself using it any time soon...On 4/20/06, 
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 Speaking of Dmitry, he was interviewed on CNBC:http://veoh.com/videoDetails.html?v=e58555GeFRX7g8
-halcyon
 
p.s. are the people who have issues with Veoh unhappy with the way they fixed it? or just upset they made a mistake in the first place?  Or something else?   Is anyone's content on Veoh that doesn't want it there?  

 
 
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Veoh.com is where you can see the transcoded flv previews.Btw, I like Veoh way more than crApple iTunes.  
God forbid people speak out against precious Apple. At least people... humans... speak to us here from Veoh.  Christ, the CEO responded! When has anyone from Apple contributed to the conversation of videoblogging?
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Re: [videoblogging] Rolling Stone

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On 4/20/06, Deirdre Straughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Did you buy five copies for your mother?lol, wow...Dr. Hook.  Nice.  

On 4/20/06, andrew michael baron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There is also an article that came out yesterday in Rolling Stone
> Magazine but I haven't seen it online. Its called: "Vlog Stars,
> Online video bloggers are redefining the worlds of news and
> entertainment". It mentions Rocketboom, Ask a Ninja, Kitkast, Vlog
> Soup, A Good Word With the T-Bird. They used a stock photo of
> Rocketboom so I wound up also pictured in the article. 10 years ago,
> my greatest dreams and aspirations was to be in the Rolling Stone. As
> a musician, that's as far as my dreams could go back then. It would
> include the end-all-dream of being owned by Sony for $2000/month with
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Re: [videoblogging] Rolling Stone

[andrew michael baron]

No, I was trying to say that what used to be God is now just a  
stepping stone. . .

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>> There is also an article that came out yesterday in Rolling Stone
>> Magazine but I haven't seen it online. Its called: "Vlog Stars,
>> Online video bloggers are redefining the worlds of news and
>> entertainment". It mentions Rocketboom, Ask a Ninja, Kitkast, Vlog
>> Soup, A Good Word With the T-Bird. They used a stock photo of
>> Rocketboom so I wound up also pictured in the article. 10 years ago,
>> my greatest dreams and aspirations was to be in the Rolling Stone. As
>> a musician, that's as far as my dreams could go back then. It would
>> include the end-all-dream of being owned by Sony for $2000/month with
>> a bonus of a million dollar debt.
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Did you buy five copies for your mother?

On 4/20/06, andrew michael baron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There is also an article that came out yesterday in Rolling Stone
> Magazine but I haven't seen it online. Its called: "Vlog Stars,
> Online video bloggers are redefining the worlds of news and
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> Soup, A Good Word With the T-Bird. They used a stock photo of
> Rocketboom so I wound up also pictured in the article. 10 years ago,
> my greatest dreams and aspirations was to be in the Rolling Stone. As
> a musician, that's as far as my dreams could go back then. It would
> include the end-all-dream of being owned by Sony for $2000/month with
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: veoh article with "interesting" statements from the company

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I think the technology and probably Dmitry's experience in this space and with P2P technology is by far a larger factor than the amount of content and users that Veoh has or had.  People investing money are not usually ignorant to the core factors.  The fact is, Veoh can and now likely will become a serious alternative venue for independent media makers.  They have made it clear that they specialize in longer form higher quality videos.
Maybe not that enticing to some videobloggers who have no intention on creating 'more produced' and ellaborate video works, but looking forward it will be nice to have such an optional platform to utilize.  
I can see you, Josh, making a brillian short film.  Something above and beyond what you have already created.  I can see you wanting to distribute a high quality version of it and not wanting to jump through the traditional hoops of the industry... and instead choosing to consider a service like Veoh.
Also, imagine all the filmmakers who are not bloggers.  Anything that gives them a new vehicle for moving out their content to the masses at no cost that is far from a bad thing!sull
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watching this video, i can't help but think that 2 weeks ago when I looked at veoh and saw all my friends videos on veoh, populating their pages, that perhaps all those faces, all those "independant producers" "using" veoh helped them land this deal. 
I am curious... anyone interested in the technology/service that veoh is offering (ignore the bad blood)?I just can't see myself using it any time soon...
On 4/20/06, 
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 Speaking of Dmitry, he was interviewed on CNBC:http://veoh.com/videoDetails.html?v=e58555GeFRX7g8
-halcyon
 
p.s. are the people who have issues with Veoh unhappy with the way they fixed it? or just upset they made a mistake in the first place?  Or something else?   Is anyone's content on Veoh that doesn't want it there?  

 
 
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Veoh.com is where you can see the transcoded flv previews.Btw, I like Veoh way more than crApple iTunes.  
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: veoh article with "interesting" statements from the company

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On 4/20/06, Josh Leo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



watching this video, i can't help but think that 2 weeks ago when I looked at veoh and saw all my friends videos on veoh, populating their pages, that perhaps all those faces, all those "independant producers" "using" veoh helped them land this deal. 
I am curious... anyone interested in the technology/service that veoh is offering (ignore the bad blood)?Personally, I think they have a good site, and a good service.  I've chosen not to list my stuff because I don't believe their actions were accidental and I don't believe in their business practices.  It's great that they are trying to make amends, butI've still got my opinions.
And it is a shame, because I think they do have a good thing.  Maybe not the best thing for videobloggers, but as Anne has said in the past for they seem more suited independent film-makers, etc.
I just can't see myself using it any time soon...On 4/20/06, 
Halcyon Lujah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




 Speaking of Dmitry, he was interviewed on CNBC:http://veoh.com/videoDetails.html?v=e58555GeFRX7g8
-halcyon
 
p.s. are the people who have issues with Veoh unhappy with the way they fixed it? or just upset they made a mistake in the first place?  Or something else?   Is anyone's content on Veoh that doesn't want it there?  

 
 
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Veoh.com is where you can see the transcoded flv previews.Btw, I like Veoh way more than crApple iTunes.  
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: veoh article with "interesting" statements from the company

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watching this video, i can't help but think that 2 weeks ago when I looked at veoh and saw all my friends videos on veoh, populating their pages, that perhaps all those faces, all those "independant producers" "using" veoh helped them land this deal. 
I am curious... anyone interested in the technology/service that veoh is offering (ignore the bad blood)?I just can't see myself using it any time soon...On 4/20/06, 
Halcyon Lujah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



 Speaking of Dmitry, he was interviewed on CNBC:http://veoh.com/videoDetails.html?v=e58555GeFRX7g8
-halcyon
 
p.s. are the people who have issues with Veoh unhappy with the way they fixed it? or just upset they made a mistake in the first place?  Or something else?   Is anyone's content on Veoh that doesn't want it there?  

 
 
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Veoh.com is where you can see the transcoded flv previews.Btw, I like Veoh way more than crApple iTunes.  
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Re: [videoblogging] veoh article with "interesting" statements from the company

[Michael Sullivan]

I'm sure Veoh will/does provide statistics to it's users.I just cannot swallow an argument that puts P2P technology for independent media makers as being less significant than download statistics, especially when that P2P platform is also building a model to compensate media makers... financially and by giving them reach/exposure.
sullOn 4/20/06, Joshua Kinberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



but the full thing is distributed from Veoh's servers/network and the creator does not receive any statistics for that.-josh
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they transcode the mp4, mov, wmv to a flash file that is not even complete, it is a derivative work because they cut off bits...You are able to watch the full thing if you sign-up and download their player.  Not cool, but you are able to see the full thing after jumping through their hoops.


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Veoh allows distribution through it's P2P network but, apart from that,
what transcoding was involved? It's the original file that gets cached and distro'd.Apple provides no linkback facility in iTunes, which has also built in transcodingfor transfer of vids to the (very commercial) iPod.
joly>On 4/20/06, WWWhatsup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


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>DTV, and Veoh is the only one ever to have me put code in my feed>specifically for them to verify my ownership.>>iTunes, as far as I know, still allows anyone to submit any feed they like.



>>>The difference was that Veoh was transcoding people's video and hosting them on their servers without any attribution and with a different license (all without permission). That's totally not cool. It's one thing to link to your stuff and another to copy and redisdtribute.
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Re: [videoblogging] veoh article with "interesting" statements from the company

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On 4/20/06, Stephanie Bryant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Which means Veoh got membership sign-ups from people signing up to view
preview-only videos that shouldn't have been hacked up. Membership
sign-ups are a currency in the Internet. Using non-permitted works like
that = very not cool.Especially when that currency (I am sure of it) had something to do with funding.

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they transcode the mp4, mov, wmv to a flash file that is not even complete, it is a derivative work because they cut off bits...You
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player.  Not cool, but you are able to see the full thing after
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: veoh article with "interesting" statements from the company

[Stephanie Bryant]

In my case, I'm commenting on the historical action-- Veoh's taken
down my stuff. I'm ok with that. I think the ideal solution would be
to offer an attributed, non-preview, non-hosted listing in the veoh
directory, but at least they're no longer infringing on any of my
stuff.

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>
>  Speaking of Dmitry, he was interviewed on CNBC:
> http://veoh.com/videoDetails.html?v=e58555GeFRX7g8
>
> -halcyon
>
> p.s. are the people who have issues with Veoh unhappy with the way they
> fixed it? or just upset they made a mistake in the first place?  Or
> something else?   Is anyone's content on Veoh that doesn't want it there?
>
>
>
>
>
> On 4/20/06, Michael Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> >
> > Veoh.com is where you can see the transcoded flv previews.
> >
> > Btw, I like Veoh way more than crApple iTunes.
> > God forbid people speak out against precious Apple.
> >
> > At least people... humans... speak to us here from Veoh.  Christ, the CEO
> responded!
> > When has anyone from Apple contributed to the conversation of
> videoblogging?
> >
> >
> > sull
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Re: [videoblogging] veoh article with "interesting" statements from the company

[Devlon]

On 4/20/06, Joshua Kinberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



but the full thing is distributed from Veoh's servers/network and the creator does not receive any statistics for that.Trust me, I wasn't defending them Josh.  This is a good point, one that doesn't get brought up. 
-josh
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On 4/20/06, Josh Leo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:





they transcode the mp4, mov, wmv to a flash file that is not even complete, it is a derivative work because they cut off bits...You are able to watch the full thing if you sign-up and download their player.  Not cool, but you are able to see the full thing after jumping through their hoops.


On 4/20/06, WWWhatsup <
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Veoh allows distribution through it's P2P network but, apart from that,
what transcoding was involved? It's the original file that gets cached and distro'd.Apple provides no linkback facility in iTunes, which has also built in transcodingfor transfer of vids to the (very commercial) iPod.
joly>On 4/20/06, WWWhatsup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>Well, I have submitted my feed to all nature of aggregating sites/services including
>DTV, and Veoh is the only one ever to have me put code in my feed>specifically for them to verify my ownership.>>iTunes, as far as I know, still allows anyone to submit any feed they like.



>>>The difference was that Veoh was transcoding people's video and hosting them on their servers without any attribution and with a different license (all without permission). That's totally not cool. It's one thing to link to your stuff and another to copy and redisdtribute.
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[videoblogging] Re: veoh article with "interesting" statements from the company

[David Howell]

Mistakes arent intentional.

David
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>  Speaking of Dmitry, he was interviewed on CNBC:
> http://veoh.com/videoDetails.html?v=e58555GeFRX7g8
> 
> -halcyon
> 
> p.s. are the people who have issues with Veoh unhappy with the way they
> fixed it? or just upset they made a mistake in the first place?  Or
> something else?   Is anyone's content on Veoh that doesn't want it
there?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 4/20/06, Michael Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Veoh.com  is where you can see the transcoded flv
> > previews.
> >
> > Btw, I like Veoh way more than crApple iTunes.
> > God forbid people speak out against precious Apple.
> >
> > At least people... humans... speak to us here from Veoh.  Christ,
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Re: [videoblogging] veoh article with "interesting" statements from the company

[Stephanie Bryant]

Which means Veoh got membership sign-ups from people signing up to view
preview-only videos that shouldn't have been hacked up. Membership
sign-ups are a currency in the Internet. Using non-permitted works like
that = very not cool.

--StephanieOn 4/20/06, Devlon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



On 4/20/06, Josh Leo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




they transcode the mp4, mov, wmv to a flash file that is not even complete, it is a derivative work because they cut off bits...You
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: veoh

[Michael Sullivan]

For many videobloggers the previews were long enough to be the complete work.point being?actually, in those cases that was better ;-)but i was explaining to joly where the transcoded videos were. 
sullOn 4/20/06, Michael Verdi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



For many videobloggers the previews were long enough to be the complete work.On 4/20/06, 
Michael Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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the only transcoding that was done and that was part of the issue were the video previews on veoh.com not the distributable originals via the p2p network.
On 4/20/06, 
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Where does it say that? I've d/l'd my own stuff from there and it's bit for bit
identical.jolyAt 10:54 AM 4/20/2006, you wrote:>Are you sure they trans code? I thought they just take>whatever you give them (mp4) and put it on the network.>>joly>

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Re: [videoblogging] veoh article with "interesting" statements from the company

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but the full thing is distributed from Veoh's servers/network and the creator does not receive any statistics for that.-joshOn 4/20/06, Devlon
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On 4/20/06, Josh Leo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




they transcode the mp4, mov, wmv to a flash file that is not even complete, it is a derivative work because they cut off bits...You are able to watch the full thing if you sign-up and download their player.  Not cool, but you are able to see the full thing after jumping through their hoops.


On 4/20/06, WWWhatsup <
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Veoh allows distribution through it's P2P network but, apart from that,
what transcoding was involved? It's the original file that gets cached and distro'd.Apple provides no linkback facility in iTunes, which has also built in transcodingfor transfer of vids to the (very commercial) iPod.
joly>On 4/20/06, WWWhatsup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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>DTV, and Veoh is the only one ever to have me put code in my feed>specifically for them to verify my ownership.>>iTunes, as far as I know, still allows anyone to submit any feed they like.


>>>The difference was that Veoh was transcoding people's video and hosting them on their servers without any attribution and with a different license (all without permission). That's totally not cool. It's one thing to link to your stuff and another to copy and redisdtribute.
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: veoh article with "interesting" statements from the company

[Halcyon Lujah]

 Speaking of Dmitry, he was interviewed on CNBC:http://veoh.com/videoDetails.html?v=e58555GeFRX7g8
-halcyon
 
p.s. are the people who have issues with Veoh unhappy with the way they fixed it? or just upset they made a mistake in the first place?  Or something else?   Is anyone's content on Veoh that doesn't want it there?  

 
 
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Veoh.com is where you can see the transcoded flv previews.Btw, I like Veoh way more than crApple iTunes.  
God forbid people speak out against precious Apple. At least people... humans... speak to us here from Veoh.  Christ, the CEO responded! When has anyone from Apple contributed to the conversation of videoblogging?
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: veoh

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For many videobloggers the previews were long enough to be the complete work.On 4/20/06, Michael Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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the only transcoding that was done and that was part of the issue were the video previews on veoh.com not the distributable originals via the p2p network.
On 4/20/06, 
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Where does it say that? I've d/l'd my own stuff from there and it's bit for bit
identical.jolyAt 10:54 AM 4/20/2006, you wrote:>Are you sure they trans code? I thought they just take>whatever you give them (mp4) and put it on the network.>>joly>

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[videoblogging] Re: Rolling Stone

[Casey McKinnon]

Hey Andrew... Any idea what page I can find the article on?  I just
picked up a copy and went through it page by page finding nothing...

Are you talking about Issue 998 (April 20, 2006)?

Casey


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> There is also an article that came out yesterday in Rolling Stone  
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> Online video bloggers are redefining the worlds of news and  
> entertainment". It mentions Rocketboom, Ask a Ninja, Kitkast, Vlog  
> Soup, A Good Word With the T-Bird. They used a stock photo of  
> Rocketboom so I wound up also pictured in the article. 10 years ago,  
> my greatest dreams and aspirations was to be in the Rolling Stone. As  
> a musician, that's as far as my dreams could go back then. It would  
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: veoh

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the only transcoding that was done and that was part of the issue were the video previews on veoh.com not the distributable originals via the p2p network.On 4/20/06, 
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Re: [videoblogging] veoh article with "interesting" statements from the company

[Devlon]

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they transcode the mp4, mov, wmv to a flash file that is not even complete, it is a derivative work because they cut off bits...You are able to watch the full thing if you sign-up and download their player.  Not cool, but you are able to see the full thing after jumping through their hoops.

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Veoh allows distribution through it's P2P network but, apart from that,
what transcoding was involved? It's the original file that gets cached and distro'd.Apple provides no linkback facility in iTunes, which has also built in transcodingfor transfer of vids to the (very commercial) iPod.
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>>>The difference was that Veoh was transcoding people's video and hosting them on their servers without any attribution and with a different license (all without permission). That's totally not cool. It's one thing to link to your stuff and another to copy and redisdtribute.
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: veoh

[WWWhatsup]

Where does it say that? I've d/l'd my own stuff from there and it's bit for bit
identical.

joly

At 10:54 AM 4/20/2006, you wrote:
>Are you sure they trans code? I thought they just take
>whatever you give them (mp4) and put it on the network.
>
>joly
>
> They transcode video that's walled into a P2P
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Re: [videoblogging] veoh article with "interesting" statements from the company

[Josh Leo]

they transcode the mp4, mov, wmv to a flash file that is not even complete, it is a derivative work because they cut off bits...On 4/20/06, WWWhatsup <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Veoh allows distribution through it's P2P network but, apart from that,
what transcoding was involved? It's the original file that gets cached and distro'd.Apple provides no linkback facility in iTunes, which has also built in transcodingfor transfer of vids to the (very commercial) iPod.
joly>On 4/20/06, WWWhatsup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>Well, I have submitted my feed to all nature of aggregating sites/services including
>DTV, and Veoh is the only one ever to have me put code in my feed>specifically for them to verify my ownership.>>iTunes, as far as I know, still allows anyone to submit any feed they like.
>>>The difference was that Veoh was transcoding people's video and hosting them on their servers without any attribution and with a different license (all without permission). That's totally not cool. It's one thing to link to your stuff and another to copy and redisdtribute.
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Re: [videoblogging] veoh article with "interesting" statements from the company

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On 4/20/06, WWWhatsup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Veoh allows distribution through it's P2P network but, apart from that,what transcoding was involved? It's the original file that gets cached and distro'd.Not sure where you've been for the last two weeks but, Veoh had sucked up a zillion RSS feeds and transcoded videos to flash. Then they were hosting them and displaying them on their site with no attribution and under thier own license.
Apple provides no linkback facility in iTunes, which has also built in transcoding
for transfer of vids to the (very commercial) iPod.Apple does many things wrong but they're certainly not doing what Veoh was doing. If you search for me on the iTunes music store you will see a link to my videoblog (it says "website" with a little arrow next to it). Also the transcoding happens on your own computer. Apple isn't serving up any of my videos.
It's a huge difference.-Verdi joly>On 4/20/06, WWWhatsup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>Well, I have submitted my feed to all nature of aggregating sites/services including>DTV, and Veoh is the only one ever to have me put code in my feed
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Might be going to Vloggercon...(I hope)

[Ted Tagami]

...is that like designated driver?! ;)On 4/20/06, missbhavens1969 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Well, SOMEONE has to choose to be responsible! Heath: this time it's you. If I ever 
financially recover, next time it will be me...

Bekah

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Heath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I didn't think it was possible but this whole thread is making me 
> even more depressed than I am..late last week it looked like 
> I was going to be able to go and then in the last couple of 
> days.I don't see how I can make itI thought I had some 
> stuff lined up and like just about everything else that is going on 
> with me right now..it's falling throughstill an outside 
> chance but it is so slim it is almost invisibleI so want to 
> meet everyone and be a part of vloggercon but right now, it looks 
> like I have to choose to be responsible...man that just 
> sucks
> 
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Casey McKinnon"  
> wrote:
> >
> > I'm middle class and have a stuffed Firefox named Muldor who calls 
> me
> > mummy... can I be in the club?
> > 
> > Casey
> > 
> > 
> > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Sullivan"
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > here here.
> > > this daddeo is trying to make it out there too!
> > > 
> > > On 4/20/06, Chris Daniel  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Don't forget.. the middle class Dads as well!
> > > >
> > > > -Chris
> > > > --
> > > > http://www.chrisdanielvideos.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 4/20/06, Susan  wrote:
> > > > > There will be more middle class moms there than you think ;)
> > > > >
> > > > > Susan
> > > > > http://vlog.kitykity.com
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Monique Danielle" 
> 
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm thinking about going, but I'm worried that I too new to 
> the
> > > > > community
> > > > > > and will be sort of a wall flower.
> > > > > > Also, while I'm liberal and funky at heart, I'm also a 
> middle
> > class
> > > > > mom, so
> > > > > > I fear that I won't be 'hip' enough
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cheers
> > > > > > Monique Danielle
> > > > > > http://www.vlogdiva.com
> > > > > > http://www.vlogchallenge.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   -Original Message-
> > > > > >   From: Markus Sandy [mailto:markus@]
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> > > > > >   To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > >   Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Might be going to
> > Vloggercon...(I hope)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   i sure hope you can make it nathan
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> > > > > >   btw, i really liked your story the other day about your 
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> > > > > >   >2000 USD dollar trip for me, and that is kinda holding
> > > > > >   >me back too...
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> > > > > >   >Just reading the emails about vloggercon drives me
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> > > > > >   >just started a new job, who could ask for worst
> > > > > >   >timing...
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Re: [videoblogging] veoh article with "interesting" statements from the company

[Michael Sullivan]

Veoh.com is where you can see the transcoded flv previews.Btw, I like Veoh way more than crApple iTunes.  God forbid people speak out against precious Apple.At least people... humans... speak to us here from Veoh.  Christ, the CEO responded!
When has anyone from Apple contributed to the conversation of videoblogging?sullOn 4/20/06, WWWhatsup <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Veoh allows distribution through it's P2P network but, apart from that,
what transcoding was involved? It's the original file that gets cached and distro'd.Apple provides no linkback facility in iTunes, which has also built in transcodingfor transfer of vids to the (very commercial) iPod.
joly>On 4/20/06, WWWhatsup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>Well, I have submitted my feed to all nature of aggregating sites/services including
>DTV, and Veoh is the only one ever to have me put code in my feed>specifically for them to verify my ownership.>>iTunes, as far as I know, still allows anyone to submit any feed they like.
>>>The difference was that Veoh was transcoding people's video and hosting them on their servers without any attribution and with a different license (all without permission). That's totally not cool. It's one thing to link to your stuff and another to copy and redisdtribute.
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[videoblogging] Re: Might be going to Vloggercon...(I hope)

[missbhavens1969]

Well, SOMEONE has to choose to be responsible! Heath: this time it's you. If I ever 
financially recover, next time it will be me...

Bekah

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Heath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I didn't think it was possible but this whole thread is making me 
> even more depressed than I am..late last week it looked like 
> I was going to be able to go and then in the last couple of 
> days.I don't see how I can make itI thought I had some 
> stuff lined up and like just about everything else that is going on 
> with me right now..it's falling throughstill an outside 
> chance but it is so slim it is almost invisibleI so want to 
> meet everyone and be a part of vloggercon but right now, it looks 
> like I have to choose to be responsible...man that just 
> sucks
> 
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Casey McKinnon"  
> wrote:
> >
> > I'm middle class and have a stuffed Firefox named Muldor who calls 
> me
> > mummy... can I be in the club?
> > 
> > Casey
> > 
> > 
> > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Sullivan"
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > here here.
> > > this daddeo is trying to make it out there too!
> > > 
> > > On 4/20/06, Chris Daniel  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Don't forget.. the middle class Dads as well!
> > > >
> > > > -Chris
> > > > --
> > > > http://www.chrisdanielvideos.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 4/20/06, Susan  wrote:
> > > > > There will be more middle class moms there than you think ;)
> > > > >
> > > > > Susan
> > > > > http://vlog.kitykity.com
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Monique Danielle" 
> 
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm thinking about going, but I'm worried that I too new to 
> the
> > > > > community
> > > > > > and will be sort of a wall flower.
> > > > > > Also, while I'm liberal and funky at heart, I'm also a 
> middle
> > class
> > > > > mom, so
> > > > > > I fear that I won't be 'hip' enough
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cheers
> > > > > > Monique Danielle
> > > > > > http://www.vlogdiva.com
> > > > > > http://www.vlogchallenge.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   -Original Message-
> > > > > >   From: Markus Sandy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > >   Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 9:31 AM
> > > > > >   To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > >   Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Might be going to
> > Vloggercon...(I hope)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   i sure hope you can make it nathan
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   btw, i really liked your story the other day about your 
> driving
> > > > > test in
> > > > > >   Japan.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   http://www.bicycle-sidewalk.com/?p=96
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   127 posts!!! dude, you rock.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   regards,
> > > > > >   markus
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   Nathan Miller wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   >Cross your fingers for me...gonna ask for time off
> > > > > >   >tommorrow to head to San Fran...however it will be a
> > > > > >   >2000 USD dollar trip for me, and that is kinda holding
> > > > > >   >me back too...
> > > > > >   >
> > > > > >   >Just reading the emails about vloggercon drives me
> > > > > >   >crazy. I so dearly want to meet everyone, however I
> > > > > >   >just started a new job, who could ask for worst
> > > > > >   >timing...
> > > > > >   >
> > > > > >   >
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Re: [videoblogging] veoh article with "interesting" statements from the company

[WWWhatsup]

Veoh allows distribution through it's P2P network but, apart from that,
what transcoding was involved? It's the original file that gets cached and distro'd.

Apple provides no linkback facility in iTunes, which has also built in transcoding 
for transfer of vids to the (very commercial) iPod.

joly


>On 4/20/06, WWWhatsup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Well, I have submitted my feed to all nature of aggregating sites/services including
>DTV, and Veoh is the only one ever to have me put code in my feed
>specifically for them to verify my ownership.
>
>iTunes, as far as I know, still allows anyone to submit any feed they like. 
>
>
>The difference was that Veoh was transcoding people's video and hosting them on their servers without any attribution and with a different license (all without permission). That's totally not cool. It's one thing to link to your stuff and another to copy and redisdtribute. 
>
>-Verdi
>
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[videoblogging] Re: Might be going to Vloggercon...(I hope)

[Heath]

I didn't think it was possible but this whole thread is making me 
even more depressed than I am..late last week it looked like 
I was going to be able to go and then in the last couple of 
days.I don't see how I can make itI thought I had some 
stuff lined up and like just about everything else that is going on 
with me right now..it's falling throughstill an outside 
chance but it is so slim it is almost invisibleI so want to 
meet everyone and be a part of vloggercon but right now, it looks 
like I have to choose to be responsible...man that just 
sucks

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Casey McKinnon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> I'm middle class and have a stuffed Firefox named Muldor who calls 
me
> mummy... can I be in the club?
> 
> Casey
> 
> 
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Sullivan"
>  wrote:
> >
> > here here.
> > this daddeo is trying to make it out there too!
> > 
> > On 4/20/06, Chris Daniel  wrote:
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> > >
> > > -Chris
> > > --
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> > > On 4/20/06, Susan  wrote:
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the
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> > > > > Also, while I'm liberal and funky at heart, I'm also a 
middle
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> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers
> > > > > Monique Danielle
> > > > > http://www.vlogdiva.com
> > > > > http://www.vlogchallenge.com
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >   -Original Message-
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> > > > >   Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 9:31 AM
> > > > >   To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
> > > > >   Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Might be going to
> Vloggercon...(I hope)
> > > > >
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> > > > >   i sure hope you can make it nathan
> > > > >
> > > > >   btw, i really liked your story the other day about your 
driving
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> > > > >   Japan.
> > > > >
> > > > >   http://www.bicycle-sidewalk.com/?p=96
> > > > >
> > > > >   127 posts!!! dude, you rock.
> > > > >
> > > > >   regards,
> > > > >   markus
> > > > >
> > > > >   Nathan Miller wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >   >Cross your fingers for me...gonna ask for time off
> > > > >   >tommorrow to head to San Fran...however it will be a
> > > > >   >2000 USD dollar trip for me, and that is kinda holding
> > > > >   >me back too...
> > > > >   >
> > > > >   >Just reading the emails about vloggercon drives me
> > > > >   >crazy. I so dearly want to meet everyone, however I
> > > > >   >just started a new job, who could ask for worst
> > > > >   >timing...
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[videoblogging] Re: Might be going to Vloggercon...(I hope)

[Casey McKinnon]

Anne... Devlon... you guys can hang with me and my Firefox...

Casey


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Devlon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 4/20/06, Anne Walk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > well, i'm decidedly low class and i'm going. don't know what kind of
> > message that sends...heehee.
> >
> > i think it will be great to have many different kinds of people
from many
> > different lifestyles. i hope that people won't feel too nervous to
go for
> > fear of not fitting in. i'm nervous but i'm going anyway.
> >
> 
> I have very little class, and like you, I am nervous as well :)  But
> excited.
> 
> On 4/20/06, Casey McKinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > I'm middle class and have a stuffed Firefox named Muldor who
calls me
> > mummy... can I be in the club?
> >
> > Casey
> >
> >
> > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Sullivan"
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > here here.
> > > this daddeo is trying to make it out there too!
> > >
> > > On 4/20/06, Chris Daniel  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Don't forget.. the middle class Dads as well!
> > > >
> > > > -Chris
> > > > --
> > > > http://www.chrisdanielvideos.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 4/20/06, Susan  wrote:
> > > > > There will be more middle class moms there than you think ;)
> > > > >
> > > > > Susan
> > > > > http://vlog.kitykity.com
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Monique Danielle"

> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm thinking about going, but I'm worried that I too new
to the
> > > > > community
> > > > > > and will be sort of a wall flower.
> > > > > > Also, while I'm liberal and funky at heart, I'm also a middle
> > class
> > > > > mom, so
> > > > > > I fear that I won't be 'hip' enough
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cheers
> > > > > > Monique Danielle
> > > > > > http://www.vlogdiva.com
> > > > > > http://www.vlogchallenge.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   -Original Message-
> > > > > >   From: Markus Sandy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > >   Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 9:31 AM
> > > > > >   To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > >   Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Might be going to
> > Vloggercon...(I hope)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   i sure hope you can make it nathan
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   btw, i really liked your story the other day about your
driving
> > > > > test in
> > > > > >   Japan.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   http://www.bicycle-sidewalk.com/?p=96
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   127 posts!!! dude, you rock.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   regards,
> > > > > >   markus
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   Nathan Miller wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   >Cross your fingers for me...gonna ask for time off
> > > > > >   >tommorrow to head to San Fran...however it will be a
> > > > > >   >2000 USD dollar trip for me, and that is kinda holding
> > > > > >   >me back too...
> > > > > >   >
> > > > > >   >Just reading the emails about vloggercon drives me
> > > > > >   >crazy. I so dearly want to meet everyone, however I
> > > > > >   >just started a new job, who could ask for worst
> > > > > >   >timing...
> > > > > >   >
> > > > > >   >
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[videoblogging] Re: Might be going to Vloggercon...(I hope)

[littleblueriver7]

Yeah, I was just thinking the same thing. I'll just have to wait
another two weeks to buy a house...

I put my name up on the "I need a place to stay" list:
http://wiki.vloggercon.com/index.php?title=Hotels 
but haven't gotten any responses. Anybody want to help?
Clearly the best situation would be to stay with a vlogger from SF
area but I everyone I've asked has a full place.
I'd be up for staying at a hostel but I'm not so sure that I'd like to
do it alone, as I may (if what I hear is true) be stumbling into bed
pretty late and "under the weather" - not the best situation if you're
alone in a open dorm...
Anyone, anyone.

Mary Beth
http://mbfreeforall.blogspot.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "missbhavens1969"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Oh, that is IT! That's IT! I've been sitting here lamenting the fact
that my boss gave me the 
> Vloggercon weekend off and I don't have the $350 to fly out there.
Dude: if you're coming 
> from freakin' JAPAN, I think I should quit my bitching and find
meself a flight to Oakland. 
> My lordie, what have I been thinking?!
> 
> Nathan, thanks for the kick in the tail I've been needing. 
> 
> bekah
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> 
> 
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Nathan Miller 
wrote:
> >
> > Cross your fingers for me...gonna ask for time off
> > tommorrow to head to San Fran...however it will be a
> > 2000 USD dollar trip for me, and that is kinda holding
> > me back too...
> > 
> > Just reading the emails about vloggercon drives me
> > crazy. I so dearly want to meet everyone, however I
> > just started a new job, who could ask for worst
> > timing...
> >  
> > 
> > Nathan Miller
> > http://www.bicycle-sidewalk.com
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Might be going to Vloggercon...(I hope)

[Devlon]

On 4/20/06, Michael Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



here here.  this daddeo is trying to make it out there too!Cool Sull, hope to see ya there. 
On 4/20/06, Chris Daniel <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Don't forget.. the middle class Dads as well!-Chris--

http://www.chrisdanielvideos.comOn 4/20/06, Susan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> There will be more middle class moms there than you think ;)
>> Susan
> http://vlog.kitykity.com --- In 
videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Monique Danielle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:> >> > I'm thinking about going, but I'm worried that I too new to the> community> > and will be sort of a wall flower.> > Also, while I'm liberal and funky at heart, I'm also a middle class
> mom, so> > I fear that I won't be 'hip' enough> >> > Cheers> > Monique Danielle> > 
http://www.vlogdiva.com> > 
http://www.vlogchallenge.com> >> >> >   -Original Message-> >   From: Markus Sandy [mailto:
markus@...]> >   Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 9:31 AM
> >   To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com> >   Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Might be going to Vloggercon...(I hope)
> >> >> >   i sure hope you can make it nathan
> >> >   btw, i really liked your story the other day about your driving> test in> >   Japan.> >> >   
http://www.bicycle-sidewalk.com/?p=96
> >> >   127 posts!!! dude, you rock.> >> >   regards,> >   markus> >> >   Nathan Miller wrote:> >> >   >Cross your fingers for me...gonna ask for time off
> >   >tommorrow to head to San Fran...however it will be a> >   >2000 USD dollar trip for me, and that is kinda holding> >   >me back too...> >   >> >   >Just reading the emails about vloggercon drives me
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Might be going to Vloggercon...(I hope)

[Devlon]

On 4/20/06, Anne Walk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



well, i'm decidedly low class and i'm going. don't know what kind of message that sends...heehee.i think it will be great to have many different kinds of people from many different lifestyles. i hope that people won't feel too nervous to go for fear of not fitting in. i'm nervous but i'm going anyway.
I have very little class, and like you, I am nervous as well :)  But excited.
On 4/20/06, Casey McKinnon <
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I'm middle class and have a stuffed Firefox named Muldor who calls memummy... can I be in the club?Casey--- In 
videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Sullivan"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> here here.> this daddeo is trying to make it out there too!>> On 4/20/06, Chris Daniel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> >> > Don't forget.. the middle class Dads as well!
> >> > -Chris> > --> > http://www.chrisdanielvideos.com> >
> >> > On 4/20/06, Susan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > There will be more middle class moms there than you think ;)> > >> > > Susan> > > 
http://vlog.kitykity.com> > >
> > >> > >> > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Monique Danielle" 
> > > wrote:> > > >
> > > > I'm thinking about going, but I'm worried that I too new to the> > > community> > > > and will be sort of a wall flower.> > > > Also, while I'm liberal and funky at heart, I'm also a middle
class> > > mom, so> > > > I fear that I won't be 'hip' enough> > > >> > > > Cheers> > > > Monique Danielle> > > > 

http://www.vlogdiva.com> > > > http://www.vlogchallenge.com> > > >
> > > >> > > >   -Original Message-
> > > >   From: Markus Sandy [mailto:markus@]> > > >   Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 9:31 AM
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videoblogging@yahoogroups.com> > > >   Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Might be going toVloggercon...(I hope)> > > >> > > >> > > >   i sure hope you can make it nathan
> > > >> > > >   btw, i really liked your story the other day about your driving> > > test in> > > >   Japan.> > > >> > > >   

http://www.bicycle-sidewalk.com/?p=96> > > >> > > >   127 posts!!! dude, you rock.> > > >> > > >   regards,> > > >   markus> > > >
> > > >   Nathan Miller wrote:> > > >> > > >   >Cross your fingers for me...gonna ask for time off> > > >   >tommorrow to head to San Fran...however it will be a
> > > >   >2000 USD dollar trip for me, and that is kinda holding> > > >   >me back too...> > > >   >> > > >   >Just reading the emails about vloggercon drives me
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