[videoblogging] The camera is the new gun.
Great post, Mike! I can't wait to get my hands on one of those little projectors! I share your concern with the ubiquity of advertising, but The camera is the new gun. Is a HUGE statement! I think it is. One camera can take down a government. Cheers, Ron Watson http://k9disc.blip.tv http://k9disc.com http://discdogradio.com http://pawsitivevybe.com On Mar 30, 2008, at 7:29 PM, Mike Meiser wrote: One of my favorite things about pixelodeon was not the set screening room sessions but the widespread use of 17 macbooks for impromptu screening of all manner of videos over beers, at party's or simply gatherings in hotel rooms. It's these shared interactive viewing experiences that really make video come full circle as a part of real world face to face conversations. If the following nytimes article is correct pocket-able projection units are expected to hit the market by years end at $300-350. This could in 2009 usher in a whole new possibility for impromptu video screenings. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/30/business/30novelties.html I'd be curious to know if anyone has gotten their hands on any early prototypes yet. Perhaps there is some potential for sponsorship here at future video blogging events. Of course, cheap portable projectors could have far more ramifications then simple video blog screenings. I cannot begin to imagine how useful these things might become in the next 5 years. As they get cheaper they could one day become as common in laptops as video cams are now, and they have some interesting ramifications as secondary information displays for ambient information such as twitter, friend feed, Digg Spy, news, weather, and things we have yet to dream up. If they become ubiquitous enough they could further blur the spacial boundaries between office chair and arm chair, or put in other terms between computer screen and tv. As an information architect I find this prospect of a more ubiquitous physical information space fascinating. Anyone who has ever been on a trading room floor at an exchange will know what I'm talking about by ubiquitous information space. Or for that matter anyone who's watched a scifi movie where whole walls are information displays. Geography / real world space is the new frontier of cyberspace / media space. We've brought meat space to cyberspace, now we're increasingly bringing cyberspace back to meat space. This has tremendous implications for memory, productivity, and privacy. If the medium is the message, such bringing of video to meat space means that today's trends such as the personal and non-linear nature of videos will be nothing in comparison o the non-linearity and personal nature media created for this eventual future. Video made to be projected ubiquitously into the real world will have to be more non-linear, and in order to grab our attention be more personal then ever. The narrative will be ever increasingly abstracted and exploded. TV shows like south park, the simpsons and so called reality tv that are increasingly dependant on direct references to larger narratives in culture rather then their own sub plots will look as quaint as Leave it to Beaver in coming years. This goes for MTV's non-linear programing as well. It also means our notions of information overload today will quaint in comparison to those of tomorrow. Case in point these cheap tiny projectors are not just consumer technology. They may be used to assault our senses in yet new ways. They are perfect for projecting advertising in all manner of unpredictable spaces... subways, public bathrooms, elevators and more since they will be much cheaper, easier to install, and easier to secure then today's ad display systems. Of course a simple piece of gum will become a great weapon for future ad busters. :) I'm reminded of Jan of Faux Press's ideas of vlogvertising. We artists mine as well be the first to explore and exploit this newly opening media space. My dream of widespread true traditional gallery spaces for video blogging will increasingly become possible, even probable. Of course my 1984 type prediction is projected media will one day be as ubiquitous at assaulting our senses as video cam's are already becoming at recording our every action. My answer to that is we as citizens must preserve our right to give as well as we get in this future. Such is the important front line of the battle with public photography and graffiti. The right to arm oneself with a camera should be as protected as the right to free speech, or even more so then our right to Carry a gun. The camera is the new gun. I'm continually reminded of William Burrough's Apocalypse. Art leaps from its frames. A whole new frontier is starting to open for media space. And you thought all the real innovation had already happened.
Re: [videoblogging] The camera is the new gun.
Yeah, Ron, I concur: great post. Well, well, well... Cameras = guns. Based upon states' recent leaps to control 'em, you are onto something, particularly if these hand-held projectors will be battery-powered. As you might imagine, find this product extremely exciting news. Already, images are being projected on sidewalks, floors, walls. Mostly logos, single words. Slideshows. Graphical. Narrative structure / storytelling will be affected because people are deeply resistant to having their audio-space cluttered. Net-net: these projected motion pictures will inevitably have to work as silent films. There's both rub and irony that in this beginning of the high tech age, we return to the silent film. Perhaps advertisers will have Bluetooth-available audio? Perhaps if the motion pictures are delivered via the web, one might stream the audio over one's cell phone. The challenge would be to sync the sound. I'm on fire with possibility. Thanks. Jan On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 3:08 AM, Ron Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great post, Mike! I can't wait to get my hands on one of those little projectors! I share your concern with the ubiquity of advertising, but The camera is the new gun. Is a HUGE statement! I think it is. One camera can take down a government. Cheers, Ron Watson http://k9disc.blip.tv http://k9disc.com http://discdogradio.com http://pawsitivevybe.com On Mar 30, 2008, at 7:29 PM, Mike Meiser wrote: One of my favorite things about pixelodeon was not the set screening room sessions but the widespread use of 17 macbooks for impromptu screening of all manner of videos over beers, at party's or simply gatherings in hotel rooms. It's these shared interactive viewing experiences that really make video come full circle as a part of real world face to face conversations. If the following nytimes article is correct pocket-able projection units are expected to hit the market by years end at $300-350. This could in 2009 usher in a whole new possibility for impromptu video screenings. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/30/business/30novelties.html I'd be curious to know if anyone has gotten their hands on any early prototypes yet. Perhaps there is some potential for sponsorship here at future video blogging events. Of course, cheap portable projectors could have far more ramifications then simple video blog screenings. I cannot begin to imagine how useful these things might become in the next 5 years. As they get cheaper they could one day become as common in laptops as video cams are now, and they have some interesting ramifications as secondary information displays for ambient information such as twitter, friend feed, Digg Spy, news, weather, and things we have yet to dream up. If they become ubiquitous enough they could further blur the spacial boundaries between office chair and arm chair, or put in other terms between computer screen and tv. As an information architect I find this prospect of a more ubiquitous physical information space fascinating. Anyone who has ever been on a trading room floor at an exchange will know what I'm talking about by ubiquitous information space. Or for that matter anyone who's watched a scifi movie where whole walls are information displays. Geography / real world space is the new frontier of cyberspace / media space. We've brought meat space to cyberspace, now we're increasingly bringing cyberspace back to meat space. This has tremendous implications for memory, productivity, and privacy. If the medium is the message, such bringing of video to meat space means that today's trends such as the personal and non-linear nature of videos will be nothing in comparison o the non-linearity and personal nature media created for this eventual future. Video made to be projected ubiquitously into the real world will have to be more non-linear, and in order to grab our attention be more personal then ever. The narrative will be ever increasingly abstracted and exploded. TV shows like south park, the simpsons and so called reality tv that are increasingly dependant on direct references to larger narratives in culture rather then their own sub plots will look as quaint as Leave it to Beaver in coming years. This goes for MTV's non-linear programing as well. It also means our notions of information overload today will quaint in comparison to those of tomorrow. Case in point these cheap tiny projectors are not just consumer technology. They may be used to assault our senses in yet new ways. They are perfect for projecting advertising in all manner of unpredictable spaces... subways, public bathrooms, elevators and more since they will be much cheaper, easier to install, and easier to secure then today's ad display systems. Of course a simple piece of gum will become a
Re: [videoblogging] The camera is the new gun.
There's both rub and irony that in this beginning of the high tech age, we return to the silent film. Perhaps advertisers will have Bluetooth-available audio? Perhaps if the motion pictures are delivered via the web, one might stream the audio over one's cell phone. The challenge would be to sync the sound. What a strange new world, eh? So interesting... These laws are yet another affront to a citizen's media. I've no desire to bring up another 'Net-Neutrality' and 'Crushing independent content producers' argument, in fact I'm done with argument, so I'll just say what I want to say and shut my mouth. I find the removal of cameras and criminalization of camera use in public spaces to be very interesting, and it seems to me that this is the State 'Crushing' the independent content creators. I wonder if this will bring the defenders of the Corporate agenda, and their lack of desire to crush independent content creators to the discussion. In an era of 'It's the Economy Stupid', a Cheap Labor Economy, and feeding people to the Economy, I see no difference between the authoritarian control by the State and need to feed a Corporate Grow or Die agenda. It's the same thing. They are entirely dependent upon eachother. See, I am attacking the government for the same damn thing. I am, however, not attacking the idea of government, just as I was not attacking the idea of economy. Both are absolute perversions of their foundational concepts. They are extremely unhealthy, BOTH of them. We've got to fix them - BOTH. They are becoming one and the same, and I wish I could be more persuasive because, like Global Warming, the environment, perpetual war and the destruction of Democracy, once it's readily apparent, it's too friggin' late. It's so naked, how can people not see it. blech... Ron On Mar 31, 2008, at 5:44 AM, Jan McLaughlin wrote: Yeah, Ron, I concur: great post. Well, well, well... Cameras = guns. Based upon states' recent leaps to control 'em, you are onto something, particularly if these hand-held projectors will be battery-powered. As you might imagine, find this product extremely exciting news. Already, images are being projected on sidewalks, floors, walls. Mostly logos, single words. Slideshows. Graphical. Narrative structure / storytelling will be affected because people are deeply resistant to having their audio-space cluttered. Net-net: these projected motion pictures will inevitably have to work as silent films. There's both rub and irony that in this beginning of the high tech age, we return to the silent film. Perhaps advertisers will have Bluetooth-available audio? Perhaps if the motion pictures are delivered via the web, one might stream the audio over one's cell phone. The challenge would be to sync the sound. I'm on fire with possibility. Thanks. Jan On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 3:08 AM, Ron Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great post, Mike! I can't wait to get my hands on one of those little projectors! I share your concern with the ubiquity of advertising, but The camera is the new gun. Is a HUGE statement! I think it is. One camera can take down a government. Cheers, Ron Watson http://k9disc.blip.tv http://k9disc.com http://discdogradio.com http://pawsitivevybe.com On Mar 30, 2008, at 7:29 PM, Mike Meiser wrote: One of my favorite things about pixelodeon was not the set screening room sessions but the widespread use of 17 macbooks for impromptu screening of all manner of videos over beers, at party's or simply gatherings in hotel rooms. It's these shared interactive viewing experiences that really make video come full circle as a part of real world face to face conversations. If the following nytimes article is correct pocket-able projection units are expected to hit the market by years end at $300-350. This could in 2009 usher in a whole new possibility for impromptu video screenings. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/30/business/30novelties.html I'd be curious to know if anyone has gotten their hands on any early prototypes yet. Perhaps there is some potential for sponsorship here at future video blogging events. Of course, cheap portable projectors could have far more ramifications then simple video blog screenings. I cannot begin to imagine how useful these things might become in the next 5 years. As they get cheaper they could one day become as common in laptops as video cams are now, and they have some interesting ramifications as secondary information displays for ambient information such as twitter, friend feed, Digg Spy, news, weather, and things we have yet to dream up. If they become ubiquitous enough they could further blur the spacial boundaries between office chair and arm chair, or
[videoblogging] P2P as an alternative to free hosting sites
This is in context to recent conversations we've had about using free video sites. At some point, these sites must understandably make a return on their investment... since they are paying big money for all this free hosting. Many of us are starting to talk about HD content and bigger videos..which wont make the issue any easier. http://torrentfreak.com/exit-stage6-a-step-in-the-right-direction-080308/ So DivX Corporation's Stage6 has croaked. The service's 'goodbye, cruel word' note says it was a victim of its own success, but that it proved 'it's possible to distribute true high definition video on the Internet'. What it really showed is how deliriously inefficient streaming video is, whether it's high def or otherwise. It cost at least $1m a month to run Stage6 with its 17.4 million unique users a month, whereas (at an informed guess) The Pirate Bay costs about $50,000 a month all-in for its 92.5 million. That's $57,000 per million users for Stage6; $540 per million for The Pirate Bay (not including people using its tracker without visiting the site, which adds a lot of Mininova's traffic as well, not to mention the other big indexes.) So at the very least, The Pirate Bay is a hundred and five times more efficient than Stage6 was. Jay -- http://jaydedman.com 917 371 6790 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: P2P as an alternative to free hosting sites
At some point, these sites must understandably make a return on their investment... since they are paying big money for all this free hosting. Many of us are starting to talk about HD content and bigger videos..which wont make the issue any easier. ahto answer my own question: http://torrentfreak.com/mininova-bittorrent-video-streaming-080319/ Over the past months we have seen more and more P2P streaming alternatives. One of the main problems seems to be that it is practically impossible to make a high quality video streaming service profitable because of the immense bandwidth costs but P2P streaming solves this problem. Looks like the European Union is funding an open source P2P streaming player. (while we fight in the US about even talking about it) The Open Source swarmplayerhttp://www.tribler.org/browser/abc/branches/mainbranch/Tribler/Player/swarmplayer.pywhich is used for the video streaming service is developed in collaboration with the Tribler http://www.tribler.org/ team from the Technical University Delft and Free University Amsterdam. Tribler is also working together with the BBC and several other European broadcasters, and they recently received a $22 million grant for P2P researchhttp://torrentfreak.com/eu-invests-22-million-in-next-generation-bittorrent-client/from the European Union. Jay -- http://jaydedman.com 917 371 6790 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: P2P as an alternative to free hosting sites
This has always been my biggest fear, that sooner or later on a very small number of sites will even host user generated content. Let's face it, if you are hosting all these video's, like you said, sooner or later you have to turn a profit, to stay in business.With site's like Hulu and others moving toward the professional content with advertising, it's going to be harder and harder for the little guy to competeit all comes down to money in the end, someone has to pay, either us, as content producers/creators or the web host or the consumerand once you get the cable companies and telco's involved as wellit would not surprise me to see user gen content to go the way of HD DVD and Beta Max. Heath http://batmangeek.com http://heathparks.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is in context to recent conversations we've had about using free video sites. At some point, these sites must understandably make a return on their investment... since they are paying big money for all this free hosting. Many of us are starting to talk about HD content and bigger videos..which wont make the issue any easier. http://torrentfreak.com/exit-stage6-a-step-in-the-right-direction- 080308/ So DivX Corporation's Stage6 has croaked. The service's 'goodbye, cruel word' note says it was a victim of its own success, but that it proved 'it's possible to distribute true high definition video on the Internet'. What it really showed is how deliriously inefficient streaming video is, whether it's high def or otherwise. It cost at least $1m a month to run Stage6 with its 17.4 million unique users a month, whereas (at an informed guess) The Pirate Bay costs about $50,000 a month all-in for its 92.5 million. That's $57,000 per million users for Stage6; $540 per million for The Pirate Bay (not including people using its tracker without visiting the site, which adds a lot of Mininova's traffic as well, not to mention the other big indexes.) So at the very least, The Pirate Bay is a hundred and five times more efficient than Stage6 was. Jay -- http://jaydedman.com 917 371 6790 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: The camera is the new gun.
Yay very interesting post :) Ive had half an eye on these small projectors for some years. There is currently a massive flaw in their spec. They arent bright enough, by a large factor. Its unclear whether they will be able to overcome this in the next few years or not. If they do, then this has even larger implications for how we light the world in general - if you get a bright enough battery powered projector then that implies a new ultra-bright LED or something that could further lower the watts required for normal lighting, which is a bigger concern for humanity overall then the novelty of projection. As for audio, technology has been developed to deliver audio to a specific point in space. Currently its used for military/police applications such as crowd control, but if it lives up to the hype then many advertising execs are salivating at the potential. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jan McLaughlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, Ron, I concur: great post. Well, well, well... Cameras = guns. Based upon states' recent leaps to control 'em, you are onto something, particularly if these hand-held projectors will be battery-powered. As you might imagine, find this product extremely exciting news. Already, images are being projected on sidewalks, floors, walls. Mostly logos, single words. Slideshows. Graphical. Narrative structure / storytelling will be affected because people are deeply resistant to having their audio-space cluttered. Net-net: these projected motion pictures will inevitably have to work as silent films. There's both rub and irony that in this beginning of the high tech age, we return to the silent film. Perhaps advertisers will have Bluetooth-available audio? Perhaps if the motion pictures are delivered via the web, one might stream the audio over one's cell phone. The challenge would be to sync the sound. I'm on fire with possibility. Thanks. Jan On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 3:08 AM, Ron Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great post, Mike! I can't wait to get my hands on one of those little projectors! I share your concern with the ubiquity of advertising, but The camera is the new gun. Is a HUGE statement! I think it is. One camera can take down a government. Cheers, Ron Watson http://k9disc.blip.tv http://k9disc.com http://discdogradio.com http://pawsitivevybe.com On Mar 30, 2008, at 7:29 PM, Mike Meiser wrote: One of my favorite things about pixelodeon was not the set screening room sessions but the widespread use of 17 macbooks for impromptu screening of all manner of videos over beers, at party's or simply gatherings in hotel rooms. It's these shared interactive viewing experiences that really make video come full circle as a part of real world face to face conversations. If the following nytimes article is correct pocket-able projection units are expected to hit the market by years end at $300-350. This could in 2009 usher in a whole new possibility for impromptu video screenings. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/30/business/30novelties.html I'd be curious to know if anyone has gotten their hands on any early prototypes yet. Perhaps there is some potential for sponsorship here at future video blogging events. Of course, cheap portable projectors could have far more ramifications then simple video blog screenings. I cannot begin to imagine how useful these things might become in the next 5 years. As they get cheaper they could one day become as common in laptops as video cams are now, and they have some interesting ramifications as secondary information displays for ambient information such as twitter, friend feed, Digg Spy, news, weather, and things we have yet to dream up. If they become ubiquitous enough they could further blur the spacial boundaries between office chair and arm chair, or put in other terms between computer screen and tv. As an information architect I find this prospect of a more ubiquitous physical information space fascinating. Anyone who has ever been on a trading room floor at an exchange will know what I'm talking about by ubiquitous information space. Or for that matter anyone who's watched a scifi movie where whole walls are information displays. Geography / real world space is the new frontier of cyberspace / media space. We've brought meat space to cyberspace, now we're increasingly bringing cyberspace back to meat space. This has tremendous implications for memory, productivity, and privacy. If the medium is the message, such bringing of video to meat space means that today's trends such as the personal and non-linear nature of videos will be nothing in comparison o the non-linearity and personal nature media created for
[videoblogging] Re: The camera is the new gun.
Well yes the trend towards laws that crackdown on this sort of stuff is alarming, and does not bode well. Frankly I expected even worse by now, recalling that in the first few years after 9/11, there were stories about how seemingly innocent video of tourist attractions was actually fiendish terrorist planning videos. So the London police camera posters fill me with despair but the satirical treatment of them gives me some small hope. Even without a war on terror moron error, Im not someone who feels too comfortable waving a camera round in public, as I know some humans feel it is invasive. I dont know about the USA but in Britain the internet is commonly mentioned on TV news debate shows in a negative light, paedophiles terrorists, so I just roll my eyes when I see similar tactics in the newspapers too. Anyway you know I have speculated in the past as to what future our governments may be planning for, although its also possible that there are more basic motives at work. The police usually want as much power as they can get, more laws to be on their side, new weapons and evidence gathering devices. Some corporations make the technology that suits this paranoid surveillance game, so theres the basic profit motive potential to corrupt government there. As for this not arguing anymore, in order for that to work you possibly shouldnt mention most of the points argued about, or goading those that 'defend the corporate agenda' to respond. Where does my position fit into that narrow representation? Because you hopefully know that I believe government imposed restrictions that affect vlogging are already here in some countries, and remain a real possibility at any time in the future. Restriction of such things is one of the first things governments tend to do when they feel under threat, and even in tines of relative security, its the sort of right that ebbs away unless continually fought for. But this would happen in a counry without corporations too. And you know I scoff at the idea that corporations have an agenda to crush independent media. Mostly because they dont need to. Corporations strengths over small business, indies, individuals, is part of their design, business as usual assures their dominance, they dont need to take extra measures to crush. Now over the course of a generation the whole game could change because of the internet, but its by no means a cert, and its entirely possible they could dominate the net without taking any special measures or doing any deliberate crushing. I mean really, I am hardly a fan of corporations, I read lots of stuff about bad things they do, just as i know small business and government also cause bad, as do individuals. Due to their scale, governments and corporations can do the harm on a far larger scale, and we have greater expectations about what good they should be doing instead. And yeah, humans appear to be too hypocritical and corrupt to save the world. Some think that if we can only harness the sorts of thinking that can happen in war, but in the struggle against climate change and resource depletion in a time of peace, we might stand a chance. I fear that it will be harnessed through actual war. Can anybody imagine the global internet existing as we know it if there ws a non-nuclear war on the scale of world war 2 in future? And that would also be an end the the complexities of debates about free speech, rights to photograph, gossip, whistleblow be a real journalist or citizen? 'Theres a war on' will be the justification for everything, and the grumbling will have to be more low-key than we have become used to. Now as much as the war on terror effect has been used to bring in lots of legislation, and fight a few regionalized wars, and although it did cause a lot of critical debate to fall silent for several years in the USA, it has not had the huge impact that a real world war would actually have on all these issues. So whats my message here, 'this is as good as it gets?', 'you aint seen nothing yet?'. Hope not. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Ron Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What a strange new world, eh? So interesting... These laws are yet another affront to a citizen's media. I've no desire to bring up another 'Net-Neutrality' and 'Crushing independent content producers' argument, in fact I'm done with argument, so I'll just say what I want to say and shut my mouth. I find the removal of cameras and criminalization of camera use in public spaces to be very interesting, and it seems to me that this is the State 'Crushing' the independent content creators. I wonder if this will bring the defenders of the Corporate agenda, and their lack of desire to crush independent content creators to the discussion. In an era of 'It's the Economy Stupid', a Cheap Labor Economy, and feeding people to the Economy, I see no difference between the authoritarian control by the State and need
[videoblogging] Re: P2P as an alternative to free hosting sites
Interesting. Ugh the word streaming rears its ugly head a lot there, which is sort of misleading but not sure it makes any difference to their basic argument. Its biased in the sense that its only talking about actual financial cost to a company right now, as opposed to actual 'cost' to the internet as a whole in terms of bandwidth used. P2p as we know it is attractive if you are the one who has to pay the server bills. The BBC always liked p2p for delivering video, their early trials used Kontiki's commercial p2p technology. The UK ISPs were not so keen however, as they were now seeing their networks get busier in ways they havent properly predicted (sustained user uploading). There is a real and lovely possibility that p2p is actually a more efficient way of distributing stuff in terms of internet load balance, but this is somewhat obscured by the actual realities of how the internet ISPs are presently setup. p2p might be the best solution for a network that doesnt exist yet, and maybe one should be built. Maybe ISPs are in the way, maybe we should all be networking in soe sor tof totally decentralised mesh, and p2p might fit that nicely. Ive no idea, Im sure there are financial interests in the status quo that will resist this, and Ive no idea how much more capacity the internet will actually end up with to handle all this stuff in the future, if left on its current course. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At some point, these sites must understandably make a return on their investment... since they are paying big money for all this free hosting. Many of us are starting to talk about HD content and bigger videos..which wont make the issue any easier. ahto answer my own question: http://torrentfreak.com/mininova-bittorrent-video-streaming-080319/ Over the past months we have seen more and more P2P streaming alternatives. One of the main problems seems to be that it is practically impossible to make a high quality video streaming service profitable because of the immense bandwidth costs but P2P streaming solves this problem. Looks like the European Union is funding an open source P2P streaming player. (while we fight in the US about even talking about it) The Open Source swarmplayerhttp://www.tribler.org/browser/abc/branches/mainbranch/Tribler/Player/swarmplayer.pywhich is used for the video streaming service is developed in collaboration with the Tribler http://www.tribler.org/ team from the Technical University Delft and Free University Amsterdam. Tribler is also working together with the BBC and several other European broadcasters, and they recently received a $22 million grant for P2P researchhttp://torrentfreak.com/eu-invests-22-million-in-next-generation-bittorrent-client/from the European Union. Jay -- http://jaydedman.com 917 371 6790 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: P2P as an alternative to free hosting sites
I fear there will be less choice in future, and as indicated in other messages there are some world or government events that could cause loss of rights to post video so freely. But in the absence of such events, I dont think the likes of youtube are going anywhere. Not too many others may survive, although I think there will be plenty of niche sites where user generated video on specific themes will flourish. But it may certainly feel different, less choice, and perhaps even more likely to have to pay to get certain features? Ive always felt the advertising numbers were hyped, and now big media is certainly harnessing video on the web, but I think theres room on the internet for a few hosting sites, a few 'new media networks', plenty of shows, plenty of individual people doing video, to thrive even in the absence of silly $. And then there are the other uses of video, such as integration into social networking apps, in general video could become ubiquitous, if people dont prove to be too camera-shy that is. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This has always been my biggest fear, that sooner or later on a very small number of sites will even host user generated content. Let's face it, if you are hosting all these video's, like you said, sooner or later you have to turn a profit, to stay in business.With site's like Hulu and others moving toward the professional content with advertising, it's going to be harder and harder for the little guy to competeit all comes down to money in the end, someone has to pay, either us, as content producers/creators or the web host or the consumerand once you get the cable companies and telco's involved as wellit would not surprise me to see user gen content to go the way of HD DVD and Beta Max. Heath http://batmangeek.com http://heathparks.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman jay.dedman@ wrote: This is in context to recent conversations we've had about using free video sites. At some point, these sites must understandably make a return on their investment... since they are paying big money for all this free hosting. Many of us are starting to talk about HD content and bigger videos..which wont make the issue any easier. http://torrentfreak.com/exit-stage6-a-step-in-the-right-direction- 080308/ So DivX Corporation's Stage6 has croaked. The service's 'goodbye, cruel word' note says it was a victim of its own success, but that it proved 'it's possible to distribute true high definition video on the Internet'. What it really showed is how deliriously inefficient streaming video is, whether it's high def or otherwise. It cost at least $1m a month to run Stage6 with its 17.4 million unique users a month, whereas (at an informed guess) The Pirate Bay costs about $50,000 a month all-in for its 92.5 million. That's $57,000 per million users for Stage6; $540 per million for The Pirate Bay (not including people using its tracker without visiting the site, which adds a lot of Mininova's traffic as well, not to mention the other big indexes.) So at the very least, The Pirate Bay is a hundred and five times more efficient than Stage6 was. Jay -- http://jaydedman.com 917 371 6790 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: P2P as an alternative to free hosting sites
Oh nearly forgot to say that this stuff might make Veoh feel somewhat vindicated. If I recall correctly they always had peer2peer technology, and this was where their fouder wanted to push the business. They had to adapt when flash in browser and videoblogging suddenly came of age, and the youtube phenomenon happened, but they still kept pushing at the long-length and/or high def over p2p approach as well. And regarding Youtube and future domination, from what I can tell Google are showing signs of being prepared to use deep pockets. With the updated Youtube API they are positioning youtube as a provider of video hosting for other sites. And there are indications that they have taken elements of their old strategy from 'google video' - youtube as the video search engine. Hmm maybe any fears I have about crushing in the future are related to the likes of Google as opposed to the old media or telecoms corporations? Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I fear there will be less choice in future, and as indicated in other messages there are some world or government events that could cause loss of rights to post video so freely. But in the absence of such events, I dont think the likes of youtube are going anywhere. Not too many others may survive, although I think there will be plenty of niche sites where user generated video on specific themes will flourish. But it may certainly feel different, less choice, and perhaps even more likely to have to pay to get certain features? Ive always felt the advertising numbers were hyped, and now big media is certainly harnessing video on the web, but I think theres room on the internet for a few hosting sites, a few 'new media networks', plenty of shows, plenty of individual people doing video, to thrive even in the absence of silly $. And then there are the other uses of video, such as integration into social networking apps, in general video could become ubiquitous, if people dont prove to be too camera-shy that is. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Heath heathparks@ wrote: This has always been my biggest fear, that sooner or later on a very small number of sites will even host user generated content. Let's face it, if you are hosting all these video's, like you said, sooner or later you have to turn a profit, to stay in business.With site's like Hulu and others moving toward the professional content with advertising, it's going to be harder and harder for the little guy to competeit all comes down to money in the end, someone has to pay, either us, as content producers/creators or the web host or the consumerand once you get the cable companies and telco's involved as wellit would not surprise me to see user gen content to go the way of HD DVD and Beta Max. Heath http://batmangeek.com http://heathparks.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman jay.dedman@ wrote: This is in context to recent conversations we've had about using free video sites. At some point, these sites must understandably make a return on their investment... since they are paying big money for all this free hosting. Many of us are starting to talk about HD content and bigger videos..which wont make the issue any easier. http://torrentfreak.com/exit-stage6-a-step-in-the-right-direction- 080308/ So DivX Corporation's Stage6 has croaked. The service's 'goodbye, cruel word' note says it was a victim of its own success, but that it proved 'it's possible to distribute true high definition video on the Internet'. What it really showed is how deliriously inefficient streaming video is, whether it's high def or otherwise. It cost at least $1m a month to run Stage6 with its 17.4 million unique users a month, whereas (at an informed guess) The Pirate Bay costs about $50,000 a month all-in for its 92.5 million. That's $57,000 per million users for Stage6; $540 per million for The Pirate Bay (not including people using its tracker without visiting the site, which adds a lot of Mininova's traffic as well, not to mention the other big indexes.) So at the very least, The Pirate Bay is a hundred and five times more efficient than Stage6 was. Jay -- http://jaydedman.com 917 371 6790 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Sanyo Xacti HD1000
I own a Canon XH-A1 that I use for my video work. I used it at SXSW to shoot interviews and it worked great. However, at night I was at events and I wished I had a smaller HD camera to document the events. I didn't want to bring my larger rig so something small like the HD1000 would have been perfect to stick in my pocket. Does anyone have any experience with this model? If this isn't a good choice, do people have recommendations of what would be best? Thanks, Scott -- --- American Cliche http://www.americancliche.net [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] very good videoblogging tool!
hello vloggers! i found this in my inbox this morning. it is an exciting development for internet conversations. i'm sure you will agree. You want to participate in the online conversation, join the discussion, and be a part of the community, but you haven't quit your full-time job to vlog and compress video all day. Between trying to provide for your family and keeping up with all of your Pownce/Twitter/Facebook friends, you have no time to write comments on videoblogs. Luckily, the Vlog Comment Generator can help you. Simply choose the type of comment you would like to publish and an appropriate comment will be generated for you. Experience what it's like to participate in an online conversation and share with others. We're here to help you get started!! http://comments.videoblogging.info/ yowsa. see you in the vlogosphere!!! -hugh -- hugh lovett
[videoblogging] Mission-Critical Video storage solutions
I recently started a yahoo group related to archival of data in our everexpanding digital world. This is my first post there, and actually very important one, at least to me, since two of my hard drives just failed. http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/archivist/message/1 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/archivist/message/1 I cordinaly invite everyone to join the Archivist http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/archivist/ group, anyone who is not neutral to loss of important data to preserve the content for future generations to come. Thanks! Renat Zarbailov of Innomind.org [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: Collecting stats on wordpress.com
I just heard that Wordpress 2.5 RC2 came out, completewith image galleries and dashboard redesign. I will start messing around with Show in the box when a stable WP2.5 comes out. Never did like the interface of the current WP. Pardon for being a bit off-topic... Renat --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, jimmyjay24 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My vlog host is wordpress.com. I'm trying to decide what stats to collect and how to get them. Eventually, I may want to show stats to potential advertisers. I'd appreciate any info, specifically: 1) What are the must-have stats? wordpress.com gives page views but not unique visitor counts and it does not give clickthoughs on its feed. 2) Should I stick with the wordpress.com feed or install feedburner? wordpress is slowly bringing back feed stats. They currently let me see how many hits on a particular post come from its feed and they'll eventually let me know the total number of feed subscribers. But wordpress is rolling out new features slowly. Feedburner will give me clickthroughs. Are there other compelling reasons to go with feedburner? I realize I may want to use feedburner to capture email subscribers. 3) Do I want to install a stat counter and, if so, which one should I install? The only stat counters that wordpress.com supports are sitemeter, statcounter, shiny stats and activemeter. I lean towards sitemeter—anyone having issues with sitemeter? 4) If I switch to a self-hosted blog with wordpress.org, will that cause a problem? What do I need to know about transitioning my stats? Stats are confusing and I'd appreciate any suggestions. Jim ihatetodance.com
[videoblogging] Re: Collecting stats on wordpress.com
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, jimmyjay24 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My vlog host is wordpress.com. I'm trying to decide what stats to collect and how to get them. Eventually, I may want to show stats to potential advertisers. I'd appreciate any info, specifically: 1) What are the must-have stats? wordpress.com gives page views but not unique visitor counts and it does not give clickthoughs on its feed. Hi Jim, I forget if we spoke about this at the last SHVH, but how about goggle analytics? Lots of free stats available there depending on what you are looking for. I wonder if they be adding video related features in the near future? They have added video features to google search recently, so perhaps they will begin to offer analytic tools and stats for video soon. Markus
[videoblogging] Re:pocket sized projectors, the future of impromptu video blog screenin
I was considering this Boxlight Bumblebee $700 super light weight projectorhttp://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,2100966,00.aspfor my mobile traveling Silent Screamerhttp://innomind.org/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=67Itemid=30quad-core video-editing workstation embedded into a carry on luggage. Kind of makes sense to get a projector of this type than lugging around a 20 plus LCD. What held the urge, aside from lack of fund to get it :), is the lack of lumens. I hope NyTimes's prediction (projection?) comes true in regards to $300-350 lightweight projectors. It would be nice carrying an Asus EEE with a pocket projector, like a Samsung one (forgot the model), and project beautiful moving pictures onto walls anywhere one happens to be. Reminds me of the Star Wars where one of the main characters throws this little ball that starts projecting holographic videos. Skype anyone? -- Sincerely, Renat Zarbailov of Innomind.org [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] very good videoblogging tool!
hahahha nice On 3/31/08, hugh.lovett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello vloggers! i found this in my inbox this morning. it is an exciting development for internet conversations. i'm sure you will agree. You want to participate in the online conversation, join the discussion, and be a part of the community, but you haven't quit your full-time job to vlog and compress video all day. Between trying to provide for your family and keeping up with all of your Pownce/Twitter/Facebook friends, you have no time to write comments on videoblogs. Luckily, the Vlog Comment Generator can help you. Simply choose the type of comment you would like to publish and an appropriate comment will be generated for you. Experience what it's like to participate in an online conversation and share with others. We're here to help you get started!! http://comments.videoblogging.info/ yowsa. see you in the vlogosphere!!! -hugh -- hugh lovett -- http://geekentertainment.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] very good videoblogging tool!
Love the new site, looks great man. thanks so much. :-) On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 7:39 PM, Irina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hahahha nice On 3/31/08, hugh.lovett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello vloggers! i found this in my inbox this morning. it is an exciting development for internet conversations. i'm sure you will agree. You want to participate in the online conversation, join the discussion, and be a part of the community, but you haven't quit your full-time job to vlog and compress video all day. Between trying to provide for your family and keeping up with all of your Pownce/Twitter/Facebook friends, you have no time to write comments on videoblogs. Luckily, the Vlog Comment Generator can help you. Simply choose the type of comment you would like to publish and an appropriate comment will be generated for you. Experience what it's like to participate in an online conversation and share with others. We're here to help you get started!! http://comments.videoblogging.info/ yowsa. see you in the vlogosphere!!! -hugh -- hugh lovett -- http://geekentertainment.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] very good videoblogging tool!
Luckily, the Vlog Comment Generator can help you. Simply choose the type of comment you would like to publish and an appropriate comment will be generated for you. Experience what it's like to participate in an online conversation and share with others. We're here to help you get started!! http://comments.videoblogging.info/ I thought about this video all day at work - such reprieve from office life. Thanks. :-) Jay -- http://jaydedman.com 917 371 6790
Re: [videoblogging] very good videoblogging tool!
is everyone here like 12? how is this funny? this is retarded.. -Mike mmeiser.com/blog On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 7:46 PM, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Luckily, the Vlog Comment Generator can help you. Simply choose the type of comment you would like to publish and an appropriate comment will be generated for you. Experience what it's like to participate in an online conversation and share with others. We're here to help you get started!! http://comments.videoblogging.info/ I thought about this video all day at work - such reprieve from office life. Thanks. :-) Jay -- http://jaydedman.com 917 371 6790 Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] very good videoblogging tool!
I miss the Grumpy Meiser!! There is no ecosystem complete without you! Maybe it would have been funnier if you saw it tomorrow for April Fools? Plus, you don't comment on my videos anymore; maybe it'll help you out!:) On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 4:50 PM, Mike Meiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is everyone here like 12? how is this funny? this is retarded.. -Mike mmeiser.com/blog -- Schlomo Rabinowitz http://schlomolog.blogspot.com http://hatfactory.net AIM:schlomochat [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] TAXINYC.TV
Hey, have you cool cats seen http://taxinyc.tv/ pretty sweet Sorry if someone has already posted about it. Tim Street Creator/Executive Producer French Maid TV Subscribe for FREE @ http://frenchmaidtv.com/itunes My Demo Reels Blog http://1timstreet.com
Re: [videoblogging] TAXINYC.TV
I met Noel during his around the world trek -- he is one of the nicest people you could meet. He is a walking Open Source advocate, Co-working loving, Videoblogging freak. Meet him if you are in New York! On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 4:56 PM, Tim Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, have you cool cats seen http://taxinyc.tv/ -- Schlomo Rabinowitz http://schlomolog.blogspot.com http://hatfactory.net AIM:schlomochat [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] TAXINYC.TV
Ditto; I was actually off island but when he came through Hawaii Shane rescued him from a bumpy couch shall we say. Rox On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 2:08 PM, schlomo rabinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I met Noel during his around the world trek -- he is one of the nicest people you could meet. He is a walking Open Source advocate, Co-working loving, Videoblogging freak. Meet him if you are in New York! On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 4:56 PM, Tim Street [EMAIL PROTECTED]tim%40frenchmaidtv.com wrote: Hey, have you cool cats seen http://taxinyc.tv/ -- Schlomo Rabinowitz http://schlomolog.blogspot.com http://hatfactory.net AIM:schlomochat [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Roxanne Darling o ke kai means of the sea in hawaiian Join us at the reef! Mermaid videos, geeks talking, and lots more http://reef.beachwalks.tv 808-384-5554 Video -- http://www.beachwalks.tv Company -- http://www.barefeetstudios.com Twitter-- http://www.twitter.com/roxannedarling [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Videoblogging Week 2008
Just to let you know, http://videobloggingweek2008.blogspot.com/ April 20-26 Begin the discussion -- Josh Leo www.JoshLeo.com www.ultrakawaii.com www.WanderingWestMichigan.com www.SlowLorisMedia.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] very good videoblogging tool!
I have had comment writers block. :) On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 7:53 PM, schlomo rabinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I miss the Grumpy Meiser!! There is no ecosystem complete without you! Maybe it would have been funnier if you saw it tomorrow for April Fools? Plus, you don't comment on my videos anymore; maybe it'll help you out!:) On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 4:50 PM, Mike Meiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is everyone here like 12? how is this funny? this is retarded.. -Mike mmeiser.com/blog -- Schlomo Rabinowitz http://schlomolog.blogspot.com http://hatfactory.net AIM:schlomochat [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] New Videoblog Promotion and Voting Site
Hey folks, I've been a member of this group for several years, but haven't really posted too much, although I always read the posts to keep up on what's going on. As a web developer and avid videoblog viewer, it's sometimes frustrating to me that finding quality videoblogs and videoblogging related sites is sometimes difficult. With that in mind, I am working on several videoblogging related projects with the aim of helping you, the video producers, promote your own sites and the sites you love. I created VideoBlogging Review to help, I hope that you'll find it useful. http://videobloggingreview.com/ The basic idea is that you can make submissions of sites that you find interesting or useful, and you can vote up the submissions. It's based on the Digg social bookmarking idea and created using Pligg. This site is brand new and I encourage any of you that use it to report back anything you think that doesn't work right. Thanks for your time and good luck in driving traffic! Adam
RE: [videoblogging] New Videoblog Promotion and Voting Site
Pretty cool idea. Although, I'm confused, am I supposed to submit individual entries/videos? Or my entire vlog? Jim Kukral www.jimkukral.com From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of awarner20 Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 9:47 PM To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: [videoblogging] New Videoblog Promotion and Voting Site Hey folks, I've been a member of this group for several years, but haven't really posted too much, although I always read the posts to keep up on what's going on. As a web developer and avid videoblog viewer, it's sometimes frustrating to me that finding quality videoblogs and videoblogging related sites is sometimes difficult. With that in mind, I am working on several videoblogging related projects with the aim of helping you, the video producers, promote your own sites and the sites you love. I created VideoBlogging Review to help, I hope that you'll find it useful. http://videobloggingreview.com/ The basic idea is that you can make submissions of sites that you find interesting or useful, and you can vote up the submissions. It's based on the Digg social bookmarking idea and created using Pligg. This site is brand new and I encourage any of you that use it to report back anything you think that doesn't work right. Thanks for your time and good luck in driving traffic! Adam [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: Videoblogging Week 2008
Excellent! Mefeedia will be doing our typical tag aggregation: http://www.mefeedia.com/tags/videobloggingweek2008/ (no promo videos yet??) Tag stream widget here: http://www.mefeedia.com/tags/videobloggingweek2008/videostream_widgets/ Working on some enhancements for this year (event date filtering, better viewing experience, possibly others). Email me if you have any requests. Regards, Frank [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mefeedia.com - Discover the Video Web --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just to let you know, http://videobloggingweek2008.blogspot.com/ April 20-26 Begin the discussion -- Josh Leo www.JoshLeo.com www.ultrakawaii.com www.WanderingWestMichigan.com www.SlowLorisMedia.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: Collecting stats on wordpress.com
Hey Markus – I requested stats at SHVH but we never got to it. Too much merriment ;) A blog hosted at wordpress.com can not use google analytics. From their FAQ: We already use Google Analytics code to monitor the domain in ways that provide us with useful information to benefit the service we offer. It is not possible to use two instances of Google Analytics on one page. I'm wondering if the geeks in the group are skipping this thread because it has wordpress.com in the header. I may have to rephrase the question. Jim ihatetodance.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, jimmyjay24 onaroll44@ wrote: My vlog host is wordpress.com. I'm trying to decide what stats to collect and how to get them. Eventually, I may want to show stats to potential advertisers. I'd appreciate any info, specifically: 1) What are the must-have stats? wordpress.com gives page views but not unique visitor counts and it does not give clickthoughs on its feed. Hi Jim, I forget if we spoke about this at the last SHVH, but how about goggle analytics? Lots of free stats available there depending on what you are looking for. I wonder if they be adding video related features in the near future? They have added video features to google search recently, so perhaps they will begin to offer analytic tools and stats for video soon. Markus
